Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Reinventing Community Healthcare for the Future with Christine Schuster
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- 0:58- This is Laura Dierda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 1:00- podcast.
- 1:01- I'm thrilled today to be joined by Christine
- 1:03- Shuster, president and CEO of Emerson Health. Christine,
- 1:05- it's a pleasure to have you on the
- 1:06- podcast today.
- 1:08- Thanks, Laura. I'm really happy to be here.
- 1:09- I'm big Becker's followers, so I'm happy to
- 1:12- be able to contribute to the content,
- 1:14- that others will see as health care is
- 1:16- truly challenging today.
- 1:18- Absolutely. And, you know, what better way to,
- 1:21- come through the challenges than to connect with
- 1:24- others and and share expertise and insights and
- 1:26- really,
- 1:27- figure out together how we're gonna navigate the
- 1:29- next couple of years because there's so many
- 1:30- different dynamics, and I will talk about that.
- 1:32- But before we dig into the conversation,
- 1:35- can you tell us a little bit more
- 1:36- about yourself and Emerson Health?
- 1:38- Yes. Well, I I think my claim to
- 1:41- fame is I'm the longest sitting male or
- 1:42- female
- 1:43- president and CEO in a Massachusetts
- 1:46- hospital at twenty six years.
- 1:48- I've been in three different hospitals and just
- 1:51- started my twenty second year at Emerson Health.
- 1:54- And I think that really speaks to
- 1:56- the challenges in health care continue to change.
- 1:59- The work is interesting.
- 2:01- And so it's great to stay in one
- 2:03- place and be able to really
- 2:05- move things forward with a stable board and
- 2:07- a stable leadership team and and an outstanding
- 2:10- medical staff. So,
- 2:12- that's why I'm here and, you know, I'm
- 2:14- a nurse by background. I have an MBA
- 2:16- from University of Chicago.
- 2:18- And I I think the combination
- 2:21- of my clinical skills and my business acumen,
- 2:24- you know, have allowed me to work within
- 2:27- my system and also within the the state
- 2:30- to be able to create a hospital that's
- 2:32- truly special
- 2:33- and,
- 2:34- is deeply clinically affiliated with Mass General Brigham,
- 2:38- and that partnership has really helped us to
- 2:40- provide the best possible services to the communities
- 2:43- we serve.
- 2:44- I love it. And and definitely being able
- 2:46- to partner is so critical right now, and
- 2:48- for the future. So can you give us
- 2:51- a quick state of the union of Emerson
- 2:52- Health? What has gone well this year, and
- 2:53- what are you focused on for the rest
- 2:55- of 2026?
- 2:57- Sure. You know, as we look at '26,
- 2:59- you know, I would describe the state of
- 3:00- health care in general and also at Emerson
- 3:03- as
- 3:03- cautiously optimistic as we really start to emerge
- 3:07- from what I'll call the COVID era.
- 3:10- So with that in the the rear view
- 3:12- mirror, when we look ahead with some of
- 3:13- the federal and state things that are coming
- 3:15- down, it's still incredibly challenging.
- 3:18- And I think for community hospitals, you know,
- 3:21- we continue to face
- 3:23- workforce shortages,
- 3:25- and rising costs just in about every area.
- 3:29- Labor, pharmaceuticals,
- 3:31- supplies, health insurance,
- 3:33- even food and,
- 3:35- you know, electricity cost have really risen this
- 3:37- year. So that general inflation factor
- 3:40- is something that is hitting us
- 3:43- in every possible way, and also our staff.
- 3:47- And as a result, they're always looking for,
- 3:49- you know,
- 3:50- increase in their wages that are
- 3:52- far and above,
- 3:54- the reimbursement that we get. So reimbursement
- 3:57- isn't really keeping,
- 3:59- pace with the increases that we find across
- 4:02- the board.
- 4:03- So, you know, at Emerson,
- 4:05- you know, after
- 4:07- some challenging years through the COVID era, we
- 4:10- we think we're back on stable footing. We've
- 4:12- made a lot of progress this year. We're
- 4:15- financially stable. We received outstanding quality scores with
- 4:19- leapfrog a and a five star CMS rating.
- 4:23- And and recognitions for some of our other
- 4:25- services, like
- 4:27- we were received America's best maternity hospital
- 4:30- by Newsweek and also US News and World
- 4:32- Report,
- 4:33- also Newsweek best of home health agency.
- 4:36- You know, in a number of other awards,
- 4:38- we had a 100 doctors on the Boston
- 4:40- Magazine top doc list. So, you know, we
- 4:42- continue to really focus on, you know, high
- 4:45- quality,
- 4:46- low cost services.
- 4:48- Probably the most important thing we've done is
- 4:50- really invest in our workforce, and so we
- 4:52- have a lot of pipeline programs.
- 4:54- If you can't get it on the outside,
- 4:56- what you do is you build the programs
- 4:59- internally
- 5:00- to educate everyone from phlebotomists
- 5:03- to nursing staff to
- 5:06- health care administrators
- 5:07- through our internship and fellows program. So really
- 5:10- focusing on having a stable workforce.
- 5:14- Why? They take care of the patients, and
- 5:15- that's what we're in the business of, patients.
- 5:17- So we wanna make sure that we have
- 5:19- enough
- 5:20- well qualified and well trained staff to care
- 5:22- for them. And then we've also really stepped
- 5:24- back and,
- 5:26- focused on strengthening our key partnerships.
- 5:29- In
- 5:30- I think in today's,
- 5:31- you know,
- 5:32- world with the challenges we face, it's really
- 5:36- important to not focus on what you get
- 5:38- done today,
- 5:39- but to work in partnership to prepare for
- 5:41- the future.
- 5:43- That makes a ton of sense. And I
- 5:45- appreciate that overview of so many of the
- 5:47- different things that you're dealing with and thinking
- 5:49- about as you're looking into the next six
- 5:51- months. I I can imagine, you know, some
- 5:53- of those challenges of financial stressors for many
- 5:56- organizations,
- 5:58- continue to to steepen, especially ahead of 2027
- 6:01- with a lot happening with HR one. But,
- 6:04- from your perspective, you know, when you're you're
- 6:06- looking at some of the big headwinds, what
- 6:08- are you keeping your eye on? What are
- 6:09- you focused on? And how are you preparing
- 6:10- for it and planning to overcome some of
- 6:12- these challenges in the next couple years?
- 6:15- So that's a great question. So we're really
- 6:17- laser
- 6:19- sharply focused
- 6:20- on staying in the back. You know, no
- 6:22- money, no mission. We can't do all the
- 6:24- great work,
- 6:25- if we're, you know, behind all the time.
- 6:28- We're continuing to really engage
- 6:31- with our workforce.
- 6:33- Again,
- 6:34- patients,
- 6:35- we put them at the center of everything
- 6:36- we do, and we need to have great
- 6:38- staff to care for them.
- 6:40- We're also advancing some of our, transformative
- 6:43- initiatives. In particular, we're focused on building a
- 6:45- new emergency department.
- 6:47- You know, that has expanded
- 6:49- mental health
- 6:50- services where we have we'll have a dedicated
- 6:52- unit for that in creating
- 6:55- a easy access
- 6:57- for patients and a a great
- 6:59- laid out space for our staff.
- 7:02- And I think the most interesting thing that
- 7:03- we're working on is we're thoughtfully leveraging
- 7:06- technology
- 7:07- and AI to improve efficiencies,
- 7:10- not only for our staff in the hospital,
- 7:12- but also how we can enhance the patient
- 7:14- experience.
- 7:16- And putting a structure in that allows us
- 7:18- to be really responsible,
- 7:20- with how we introduce this. We are are
- 7:23- using it in several different areas now
- 7:25- and making sure that we can take advantage
- 7:28- of the technology that's out there,
- 7:31- for both our staff and for our patients.
- 7:33- You know? So I often say to my
- 7:35- team, your health care is not returning to
- 7:38- what it was.
- 7:40- We're building what it needs to become.
- 7:42- So really trying to preserve our mission,
- 7:46- but realizing that we're gonna be in a
- 7:48- constant state of change. And instead of being
- 7:50- paralyzed by that,
- 7:52- using that to,
- 7:54- you know, embrace the kind of transformative
- 7:57- Kia delivery that we need
- 7:59- given the changes that are happening around us.
- 8:03- Absolutely. I think that's so critical in having
- 8:05- that financial mindset of knowing exactly, you know,
- 8:08- what you need in order to be,
- 8:11- staying in the black and and continuing to
- 8:13- strive to find new ways to bring revenue
- 8:15- into the system and and serve the community
- 8:17- at the same time,
- 8:18- you know, and and have that type type
- 8:20- of balance, I know, is so helpful. And
- 8:22- on that flip side, where are some of
- 8:24- those opportunities you're seeing for growth, development, and,
- 8:27- you know, to really bring more into the
- 8:29- health system?
- 8:31- So, you know, I mean, the way I
- 8:32- look at it is community health care is
- 8:34- really at a bit of an inflection point,
- 8:36- and the organizations that thrive will be the
- 8:39- ones that can simultaneously
- 8:41- reinvent themselves
- 8:43- while remaining deeply committed to their missions and
- 8:46- caring for
- 8:47- the folks that that are in their community.
- 8:50- The most important thing is is to be
- 8:52- able to
- 8:54- assemble all the parts that you need to
- 8:56- make the kind of changes you need. So
- 8:57- I think over the next two or three
- 8:59- years,
- 9:00- we really have to take a step back
- 9:02- and look at how care is delivered.
- 9:04- And, you know,
- 9:06- I once heard a a number that just
- 9:08- has resonated with me my whole career,
- 9:11- that eighty five percent of the care that
- 9:13- one person would need in their lifetime can
- 9:16- be delivered
- 9:17- safely,
- 9:18- in the community setting.
- 9:21- And so we're working with our partner, Mass
- 9:23- General Brigham,
- 9:25- to bring more
- 9:27- care from the academic medical centers into the
- 9:29- community. So they have two large academic centers,
- 9:33- and, you know, we're working with how can
- 9:34- we bring more cancer services to the community
- 9:37- and any of the surgeries that that might
- 9:40- go along with that.
- 9:42- So,
- 9:43- really
- 9:44- trying to create
- 9:46- the future
- 9:48- not around
- 9:49- the hospital, because the hospital is always the
- 9:51- anchor for everything, but how do we really
- 9:54- create
- 9:56- a health care system that's built around the
- 9:58- patients? And I think this is a once
- 10:00- in a a generation opportunity,
- 10:02- you know, that we really have to embrace.
- 10:04- It really means,
- 10:06- you know, upsetting the status quo, taking it
- 10:09- apart, and kind of putting it back together
- 10:11- again. And I think that's where,
- 10:13- you know, advances in in AI,
- 10:16- digital health, and and different care models outside
- 10:19- of the traditional hospital setting
- 10:21- have to be looked at. And this is
- 10:23- probably,
- 10:24- you know, the one chance we're gonna have,
- 10:26- you know, in the next couple of years
- 10:27- to improve access, to reduce the administrative burden,
- 10:30- which has become, you know, crazy for all
- 10:33- of us,
- 10:34- and to create a more personalized patient experience.
- 10:36- You know, with the baby boomers aging,
- 10:39- We have an opportunity
- 10:40- to think about hospital at home and how
- 10:42- do you bring a lot of those services
- 10:45- to patients virtually.
- 10:46- And
- 10:47- not just, you know, in the urban areas,
- 10:49- but also considering
- 10:52- the rural areas, which
- 10:54- more and more are under intense pressure.
- 10:56- And, you know, how do we make sure
- 10:58- that we can extend out to them
- 11:01- as well? So there's a lot to tackle,
- 11:05- but I think it's all good stuff. And
- 11:07- I think that it's we have the skills,
- 11:09- the talent,
- 11:11- and the makings of a a pretty solid
- 11:13- health care system now
- 11:15- to be able to change it in a
- 11:16- way that's gonna be
- 11:18- cost effective,
- 11:19- patient centered,
- 11:21- and,
- 11:22- still allow us to deliver the quality
- 11:25- care at at the highest level that patients
- 11:27- need.
- 11:29- I love it. I I think that makes
- 11:30- so much sense and, you know, it'll be
- 11:32- truly fascinating to see how that care delivery
- 11:34- process and access to care
- 11:36- evolves given, you know, just the environment today,
- 11:39- the technology available, and everything else that's possible
- 11:42- that wasn't possible years ago.
- 11:44- Before we wrap up here, I'm curious, who
- 11:47- do you admire as a leader from really
- 11:49- any industry and why?
- 11:51- So there's just so many folks out there,
- 11:53- but, you know, as I really reflected on
- 11:55- this,
- 11:56- I admire
- 11:57- Satya Nadella from
- 12:00- Microsoft. He's the CEO.
- 12:02- And he's achieved incredible financial success, but that
- 12:05- isn't really why I like him.
- 12:08- The way he's transformed the culture of a
- 12:10- massive organization
- 12:12- is truly admirable.
- 12:14- I I know I'm a $500,000,000
- 12:17- community hospital, and I I know how challenging
- 12:19- it is to,
- 12:21- develop a culture over time. But he really
- 12:23- has shifted Microsoft from a know it all
- 12:26- culture to a learn it all culture. And
- 12:28- he emphasizes
- 12:30- empathy, collaboration,
- 12:31- innovation,
- 12:33- and continuous learning. And those are all the
- 12:35- things
- 12:36- that are so important in health care, in
- 12:38- any health care organization.
- 12:40- And so, you know, I think that
- 12:43- health care is kinda where Microsoft is, is
- 12:46- that it's in constant change.
- 12:48- There are many challenges,
- 12:50- and and it gets increasingly more
- 12:53- difficult and complex to to manage
- 12:55- the the things that are facing us. But
- 12:58- as leaders, you know, it's our job to
- 13:00- create environments where people feel that they are
- 13:03- empowered to innovate and work together across disciplines.
- 13:06- So, you know, leadership today is less about
- 13:09- having all the answers
- 13:11- and more about creating a culture
- 13:13- where people can solve problems together.
- 13:16- And I think this is really different from
- 13:18- how health care has evolved over the years,
- 13:21- and I think that Nadella has got it
- 13:24- right. And I think if we continue to
- 13:27- work toward creating cultures where we empower people
- 13:30- at all levels, especially the front lines,
- 13:33- where those are the moments of truth, where
- 13:36- they can tell us exactly what can be
- 13:39- changed to make things work more smoothly, more
- 13:41- efficiently, and and more cost effectively,
- 13:44- I think that's gonna be the key to
- 13:46- our success.
- 13:48- Amazing. I love it. Christine, thank you so
- 13:50- much for joining us on our podcast today.
- 13:52- This has been so much fun and inspiring
- 13:54- to hear from you and everything you're doing
- 13:56- at Emerson Health. And, you know, I look
- 13:57- forward to seeing you in person as well
- 13:59- at our CEO, CFO roundtable. I know you'll
- 14:01- be speaking on our panel, and it'll be
- 14:02- just a pleasure to dig deeper into many
- 14:04- of these topics.
- 14:06- Thanks for having me, Laura. It's been a
- 14:07- pleasure being here, and I look forward to
- 14:09- seeing you at the conference as well.