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Joba and the Mouth 6-26-25 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Cooper Flagg was taken first, overall, by the Dallas Mavericks
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in the first round of the NBA Draft last night.
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Quieting. The fire Nico chance in Big D.
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For now, the Rutgers Duo Dillion Harper and Ace.
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Bailey went second to San Antonio and fifth Utah foiling
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Bailey's attempt to fall to either Washington Brooklyn or
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New Orleans, as his team of assistance attempted bringing
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much criticism, but apparently not enough to trick Daniel.
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After our NBA Draft Round Table coverage, covering all the
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trades and moves made last night, but before we make a call
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to Penn and dive inside baseball will catch up with our buddy.
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Roger Goodell and the latest NFL collusion controversy, the one,
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to website at www.worldwide.com. It was so hot for the last three
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days, it's been in 100. Now, it's shot down to 72 love.
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The whether it's got a little bit of wind, a little bit of
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rain, a little moisty. But yeah, thank God.
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There's no more 100 degree weather, even though it's going
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to go up in the 80s, I think. Hi 80s in the middle of the
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weekend so not just the moisty. Yes.
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Your favorite words out? My throat has to stay moisty
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right now because I'm about to lose it.
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I've been screaming all day and I'm not going to tell you why,
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but I've been all over the place when it comes to my voice.
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So I'll be sucking on some of these all night.
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A little holes, baby. No.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not sucking on anything that, you
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know, might be disgusting of any gratitude.
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I'll be smoking. I mean sucking and he don't get
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any ideas, some holes can't be. So yeah, it's been a crazy
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really a crazy 24 hours, and I just want to say something,
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everybody keeps asking me about my cruise, all my friends.
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My friends from California reached out to me today.
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And he said, well, how was how was Bermuda?
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And, and I didn't even tell you some of the stories, I didn't
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tell you the toilet story. That I tell you guys, the toilet
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story. I I had a lot of toilet stories.
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I will say, This the second or third night, I was on my cruise,
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I really had to go to the bathroom.
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I don't know what I ate but we went to a steakhouse and they
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had this like hot sauce that they put on the stake.
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It's like four and European sauce that they had to put on
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this day. So I said hey you know what,
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I've never had it, it tastes like a little horse radish, I
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like horse radish, so and it looked a little bit like steak
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sauce. So I put in I mixed it in with
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my steak. I, at the end of my meal, not
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only me, but Elena The Beautician, the hairdresser that
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we went on the trip with her husband was up in the bathroom.
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I just got, I really had this like drawing stomach aches.
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That wouldn't go away. Brittany, had to go to the
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bathroom but it was, it wasn't what I had to do and I ran
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upstairs. Now the funny thing is, when I
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went upstairs, I don't like people being in my room.
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I don't like anybody next to me and these rooms on a cruise are
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so small. We were in a balcony room.
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It was the second most expensive room that you can get unless you
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want to Sweet and you have a balcony but these rooms are not
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that big. They're probably like 10 by
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eight. That's what they are in a cruise
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ship and so I don't like when anybody's in, you know, in the
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room, what I'm going to the bathroom, I was in the bathroom
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for about 35 minutes, probably 40 minutes.
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As everybody was sick. I was deathly sick.
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My stomach was growling. I, I can't even tell you.
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And the crazy thing that happened after I tried to flush
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the toilet. Okay, now just think about this.
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Your toilet and so these toilets, they go down, it's like
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shoots down. If you ever put on like a plane,
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which everybody has those toilets, like it just goes down,
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it has no water in the toilet, just shoots down.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, my toilet wouldn't go down.
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I press the button, like three or four times, and I'm talking
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about, I had a log in there, all right, so I'm trying to push,
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I'm trying to, I keep pushing it, and it wouldn't go down.
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So, I'm getting done. I tell Brittany to call call
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down to floor number six, and tell them that the toilets
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clogged. So, I'm embarrassed.
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I go down and I walk down stairs because she wouldn't do it and I
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went down. And could you imagine waiting
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online? And people, there's five people
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behind you and there's one person taking, you know,
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obviously speaking to people. And I go to the the office and
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I, I say something to say, listen, I'm sorry.
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My toilet is clogged and she says, well, what room number are
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you and I said 6184. So they're like, do you want to
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go up there? And wait for the guy said, I
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don't even want to be in the room when he does this. so, She
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calls this guy. He goes up and I'm I'm waiting.
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So I told Brittany, let's stay out.
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Let's go do. Let's go to a show or something.
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We'll go back up there, guys. It took them an hour and 45
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minutes to, to fix the toilet in my room and he had to he had two
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other guys helping him. And when he walked past me, he
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he just gave me a look like, what the hell did you do?
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You know, I'm telling you right now?
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I never crap. So much in my life.
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It was disgusting. And could you imagine trying to
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clean something like that? And trying to get it down?
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This little like shoot it, really?
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It's sick in me the whole time. I didn't even want to call down
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anymore, to ask for anybody's help, and I kept telling
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Brittany, I'm not going to the bathroom in my room again
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because I'm afraid it's gonna get caught.
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So true story on that. So I don't think no region
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really liked me, I and she kept complaining, we were trying to
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call from rooms room, service, a couple of times and it took them
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forever. Took him three.
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Was to bring us our food late at night.
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So I, you know, I had to deal with her screaming at room
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service or service when they came up there at two and a half
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2:30, or 2:45 at night in the morning, I'm sorry in the
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morning, so not very good. But nevertheless, I got a lot of
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other stories, but just imagine going and actually to a, to a
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cruise and trying to enjoy yourself and you can't go into
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the any of the public bathrooms in there because they don't
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really clean it. There were kids, they were
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people, they were peeing all over the seats.
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It was disgusting. It was just absolutely
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discussing talk about public bathrooms.
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I'd rather go to a city bathroom or, you know, at, you know, at
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are what do they call that train, sake, train station
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bathrooms, and they're really smelling really discussing.
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I probably would have sat on a toilet there and sit in one of
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the toilet on one of the toilets in the public bathrooms on the
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cruise. It was that I just don't think
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how clean can you keep the crews though?
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Just I mean there's so many people and it's it's I wouldn't
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say it closes like stuff stays open. 24 hours, doesn't it?
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Yeah, but and they were, but here's the thing at like
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Probably at 1:00 in the morning if you're not playing in the
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casinos, you're either in bed or you're playing hooky at one of
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the clubs. So that's what you're doing.
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And the Clubs closed, the clubs are open till about 2:30 3:00
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and it was really one club. And by the way, they're the,
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they were kids at like 17, 18 years old, a lot of get into the
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clubs. So the older people are dancing
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having a good time and drinking. And then you see these 18 19
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year, olds doing these Crockett kicks, like speedy and embarrass
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themselves, and just like, clog up the dance floor.
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So you couldn't really even enjoy yourself on these Crews on
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this Cruise, because of some of the young kids that were allowed
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to go into the clubs, because they obviously let them go into
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the clubs because they didn't want him in the casino's.
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So it was, there was some good parts on the cruise.
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I'm just giving you the bad ones, all right?
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And by the way, if you really have to go to a bathroom or you
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really have to go to your bathroom, make sure you don't
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use too much toilet. Paper, because it will clog up
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those toilets. True story.
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At 8:45. We'll be talking to former eight
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year NFL, safety, TJ Ward will be joining us.
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Thank you to Nathan, for getting them on the show.
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Play for the Browns, the Broncos and the Buccaneers from 2010 to
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2017. Fantastic personality.
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I've never had them on the show, heard a lot of stories about
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him. Offset off the football field.
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Does a lot of work helping kids and, and doing so many things
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for children now, that he's not playing football anymore.
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So, we'll get TJ on the show. I'm sure he'll have some stories
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to tell us and, and obviously, play for the Cleveland Browns.
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So, I would love to hear about his debacle when he was over
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there with the that North that organization.
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That's had so many stories and so many.
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So much backlash over the years. Including now, as DeShaun Watson
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is still the starting quarterback for that
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organization. The 2025 NBA draft.
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First round was completed yesterday with the first two
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picks going. Exactly as expected.
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Cooper flag, goes to Mavericks and Dylan Harper goes to, the
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Spurs Vijay Edgecombe, went to the 76ers as the number three,
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and Khan knoebel went to the Hornets at number four, despite
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rumors that he was going to fall.
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Ace barely was drafted at number five by the Jazz, but ESPN's
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Jonathan givony reports that you talk was not one of the teams
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that he preferred and he was hoping to fall to the Wizards at
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number six. The next the Nets used all five
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of their first round picks. Four of those picks where
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guards, why you wonder what they're trying to do.
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It was the first time in Be a draft history, any team, drafted
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that many players. There were 19, total draft day
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trades, out of 30 picks in the first round most ever in NBA
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history. All players.
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Drafted in the top 12 played college basketball.
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First time there were no International or G league
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players in the top 12 since 2019.
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There were 11 freshmen in the first round tying and NBA record
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and seven freshmen's taken in the first seven picks setting,
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another NBA record. Well, I will say this Cooper
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Flagg look great. And and you love to see his
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family and all of Maine supporting this kid, this kid is
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going to be a sensational generational type of player.
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He is special, there's no question that he is, and he's
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very confident because even before the draft, and, and when
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the draft started, he was really upset that Dallas, waited five
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minutes to make their pick. He already knew he was going to
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sign with the Mavericks as a matter of.
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He said, he said what's taking so long?
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Yeah, he said, what is taking so long?
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Because he knew he was going number one, everybody.
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And their mother knew he was going number one.
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He was negotiating contracts with the Mavericks before they
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even before he was even drafted. So he was kind of making jokes
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like what's taking so long. He gets drafted by the Mavericks
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and then just his personality going up there.
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When they interviewed him saying that he coach kid, is going to
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give me an opportunity to be myself, be a leader on this team
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and come out through the flood gates and play.
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Game that I want to play as an NBA player and you love to hear
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that with Cooper Flagg. I do believe the personality
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that he brings to the table and he's so multi-talented.
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And they asked him during the draft when he was interviewing.
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With some of the guys, at the, at the front, at the table, they
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asked him, what, what part of your game?
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Do you love the most? And he says, all of it, I love,
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I love my game when it comes to rebounding, I love my game when
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it comes to passing and and being a leader on this team.
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And I even believe that my offense could get even better,
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and I do believe he absolutely believes this.
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And I'll tell you this also about Cooper flag that makes him
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so interesting. He didn't sit back and be around
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the bush. He didn't say, what Harper said,
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Dillion Harper went out there and I'll get into Dillion
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Harper. He was kind of hesitant when he
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was interviewing, especially when he was picked by the Spurs.
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Nobody and nobody had any questions that.
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These two guys were the best players in the draft.
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Now, I will say this. Barely falling to five.
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I was surprised. I think Ace Bali to me.
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You can argue that Ace Bali, Bali could be the best player in
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this class. Now, we have to see how he
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develops his personalities, very strong personality.
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He's taking shots at some of the NBA players over the last couple
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of weeks. As when I forget her name, that
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was interviewing him asked him. What do you think about this
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person saying that and and getting a chance to play against
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honest? He says, we'll see when I get on
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the court I expect to beat him to the book hoop every single
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time. So you you see the confidence in
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Ace Bailey and that's what you like to hear you.
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Like guys that are gonna go up there and he's going to speak
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with confidence and go out there and play his game.
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Now, if he could do it in the NBA, I believe a spelling could
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be as good of a player as Anthony Edwards.
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I think his game and and everybody keeps saying that
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Edgecombe. DJ Edgecombe is an Anthony
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Edwards prototype. I don't think so.
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I think Ace Bailey is it Anthony Edwards prototype and ath?
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A Gifted kid who is not much of a defensive player.
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He can play defense, but his game is prototypic, offensive
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offensively built. The guy can shoot.
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He can go to the hole. He's so athletic and he could do
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everything on the offensive side of the ball.
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But again, his personality is it going to work over there in
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Utah. Thank God.
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He didn't go to the 706, okay? Because could you imagine him in
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Philadelphia with his personality Joelle and bead?
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I, I don't think that will ever work, but the fact is Dillion
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Harper, is the guy that everybody is talking about, in
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this class because some people believe that Dylan Harper If
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flag wasn't in this class, was absolutely the number one pick.
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I hit some people believe that the Mavericks should have
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drafted Harper over Cooper Flagg.
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Now, I don't, I've watched Dillion Harper a couple of times
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this this season. I watched him play for Rutgers.
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He's he plays in New Jersey everybody.
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And by the way, what a recruiting class this past year
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Rutgers had, I mean, just think about it.
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The top five picks two of the best players in his class come
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from Rutgers and they were not even in the sweet 16.
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So just think about that. The two out of the top five best
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players in the nation played for a team that didn't even make it
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to the Sweet 16. So that's some really good
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talent lately though. Toothless is like and obviously
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being in the Big Ten, I get to see it up front.
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And and closing, it usually doesn't end well for us.
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Let's just put it that way. No, it doesn't but it's a weird
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dynamic though. A college basketball, like a
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team like Oregon a couple years ago, had Manute Bol son on the
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team. And I think they always squeaked
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into the tournament as a 12-seat or something where we've seen
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them be top three seasons and other years when it comes to
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like they weren't a final four team, those are three seat
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another year. There was a one season,
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something that's weird, but we had College works.
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Yeah. And another thing about, when
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you look at the, the top five picks, and a lot of people
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thought, Vijay Edgecombe was the perfect fit for the 70s.
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There's no question that his personality fits over there in
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Philadelphia, you know, Ace Bailey over there in
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Philadelphia would never worked because of all the craziness,
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not only for the city, the fans, and even some of the players on
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that roster. I don't know if anybody was
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going to like East Bali, but a spelling, some people thought he
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was going to fall out of the top 10 which made absolutely no
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sense. But what I loved about Barely in
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this draft is, I do believe his ability his athletic ability,
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and the way he plays the offensive side of the ball.
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I I think he's going to fit very, very well in the NBA.
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I, I think his offensive game, fits more, especially out of all
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the top five players in this year's NBA draft.
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I think he is prototypic the best athletic offensively gifted
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player in this class. Now, the question is, is he
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going to develop his shooting ability?
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That was something that they said he needs to work on and he
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makes some acrobatic plays during during the college
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season. Even some of his shots were so
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acrobatic and they showed some of the videos when he was
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drafted, he is an incredible gifted player.
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I just I wonder if his personality and his confidence
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is gonna hurt him. It didn't hurt, Anthony Edwards,
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when he came into the lake and that's his confidence, he plays
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and his attitude is just Like Anthony Edwards, he does believe
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he's the best player in his class.
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Now you got to go out there and prove it as we all saw.
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What Janice did in that class Yannick, the honest fell to 15
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or 16. Some people thought if Janis
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fell any further, he probably goes back to Greece and maybe he
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never plays in the NBA. So this guy, Ace Bailey, he was
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gonna be a top 10 pick. We were unsure where he was
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gonna be drafted one, he didn't go, he didn't practice winning
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at a teams. He didn't work out with any of
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the teams and there was a lot of questions that a lot of GMS were
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just iffy on even drafting him because they didn't think that
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his game would fit on any of the rosters in the top seven.
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So I disagree, I think the guy is his gifted, is any offensive
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player we've seen in this class. Now, again Cooper flag with his
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whole type of game and and the way he plays the game, he is the
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best player now and he's a generational Talent.
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The fact is what we have seen in this year's class is we thought
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that This class was going to be one of these classes, like the
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2004 2005 class with LeBron James Dwyane, Wade, and Carmelo,
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Anthony. I don't know if this class is as
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good as that, but there are players in this class that can
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just surprise people. I and we're going to go through
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through the whip around and we're I think we're going.
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That's the next segment we're going to go into the whip
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around, we'll go through the draft and we'll kind of give you
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our thoughts throughout the draft, but I do believe that the
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Wizards and the Wizards were with the way they drafted.
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And the way they set themselves up in this and this year's
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draft, I think they set themselves up very very well.
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And I think everybody keeps talking about the Nets and what
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they got out of the draft. All these guards, the Nets
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really fell in a bad position. First of all, they would draft
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thing at 8 and then the Nets, their season was really up and
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down, they don't know who, who their GM's going to be in the
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next probably three or four years?
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Because I don't think Sean Marx is going to be there much
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longer. He really hasn't developed any
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Talent. Thomas is the only guy that they
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have over there that they have developed.
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And he's the only trade ship, they really have on that roster.
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Ben Simmons. If I'm not mistaken, he stole
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their. He might be waived, though.
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Apparently, there are rumors. And they're paying Ben Simmons,
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39, and a half million dollars for practically not even
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playing. I know.
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This is an organization that's in a shambles.
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They don't have James Harden anymore.
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They don't have Kyrie Irving, they don't have Kevin Durant.
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Kevin Durant gets traded to what this is his fourth team.
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He's been on and how many years it hasn't been good but I'm
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Kevin Durant, still a great player.
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But again I I love what we're seeing.
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What the Phoenix Suns did in this year's class and we're
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going to get into that. No whip around.
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But I again Cooper Flags gonna be an amazing player.
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Dylan Harper is going to be a special player.
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I what are the Spurs going to do with the hour and fox?
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That's the question. How does this work?
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Do you move to Aaron Fox to the two?
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He's not big enough to play the two.
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So do they trade, Dr. And fox, and try next year to get a draft
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pick or, or maybe get two or three draft picks for Dr. And
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fox and a player this coming season.
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Because as much as everybody keeps thinking, That Wendy is
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going to be back in the beginning of the Season.
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We don't know if Wendy's gonna be back in the beginning of the
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Season, he has blood clots. Now everybody thinks and
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everybody believes that he will be back when it comes to camps
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and all that other stuff. They also have a rookie coach.
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So, this isn't great Popovich anymore.
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You have a rookie coach, he's never been in a position like
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this. He's got some young Talent
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there. But there's, there's just a lot
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of questions with the Spurs I do again.
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Dillion Harper is a special player, is he Dr?
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And fox, is he better than Dr. And fox, are they gonna make the
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wrong choice? Because we all know, Sacramento
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had. At one point, the Aaron Fox and
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howbert, they decided to move Helper and because they wanted
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to keep the iron Fox Halbert and became a star and Darren Fox is
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still a great player but he's you know, he's a sea salt type
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of player is he could you consider him a star or Superstar
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or just a great player. That's the question with Darren
24:14
Fox and what are the Spurs going to get for Darren Fox?
24:17
Knowing that? Is already know.
24:19
They're going to look to move them.
24:20
Yeah, it's tough because you look at three backcourt players.
24:23
Now, bringing in bringing in Harper, obviously, you couldn't
24:25
pass up on a town like that. There's a kind of, I wouldn't
24:28
say like a significant drop-off but there's definitely a good
24:29
difference between Harper and the next best player in this
24:32
class, whoever it may be, whether it's Bailey, whether it
24:34
is Edgecombe, whether it the Spurs have three essentially
24:37
guards in that back court. So they played the options of
24:40
trying to dangle your options with Fox to be able to do that,
24:43
because you're right. His skill sets, not really built
24:45
for a two guard. I think castles could be, I
24:47
think Harper definitely has a well-rounded so that could be
24:50
great for both of them, but the way it works you're going to
24:52
have a really small backcourt. One, two three, if you end up
24:55
keeping Darren Fox. So either one of them is going
24:58
to have to bolt up or they're gonna have to try to place small
25:01
much of the year, which we'll see what this new coaches but
25:04
that's actually not what Gregg Popovich like to do.
25:06
So I would be surprised if you're right.
25:08
If the Aaron Fox isn't traded, if they don't bowl, go have to
25:11
move them. Yeah, he's not he's not big.
25:14
He's the highest value that they can get something for and gets
25:18
some linked and maybe get some money.
25:19
But, yeah, there, I mean, what are they gonna do?
25:22
I mean, obviously, I think Dylan coming in brings a different
25:25
pedigree and obviously being around the game for as long as
25:27
he has. But I think you're 100%, right?
25:29
You got to move, Darren to get something from at this value.
25:33
That he has right now, because the other thing, With the Spurs
25:37
too. They're 14.
25:38
Pick was Carter Brian. Who's a good player?
25:39
But he's a small forward type, he's 67.
25:42
He's not gonna be able to play a power for it.
25:43
So then you shift him to a power for, that's a really small line.
25:46
And Khan canoe, did anybody know that he has four other brothers,
25:50
that are just as good of a player was going off for and you
25:54
how dope are their names. They're all adult.
25:58
And, and by the way, they're all talented, every single one of
26:00
them. So, and I've been reading a
26:03
little bit about each and every one of those brothers and Khan,
26:06
Khan Khan might not even be the best brother.
26:08
So, that's crazy. I saying this is the next group
26:11
of brother. The plumbing Brothers, one, even
26:15
good. No, I know that I'm just saying
26:16
good, that'll be the next Mason. Plumlee was probably the best
26:19
one out of all of them. Oh, he's but it just think about
26:22
it. It couldn't the canal family.
26:24
All of them are gonna go to do. Every single one of them are
26:27
going to be recruited by Duke, especially Coach case still
26:30
helping the favorites. Yeah, he's not my favorite
26:34
coach, she's very well. Acted not only in the, the
26:37
college world but in the NBA and internationally, so he's still a
26:42
part of Duke and he's gonna help recruit players, but Khan is
26:45
probably not even the best one out of all of them.
26:48
You got all three of the, the three young.
26:50
Well, not the youngest one, but the three other brothers behind
26:54
him, every single one of them are top, end players into that
26:58
internationally and internationally ranked right
27:01
now. And I think all three of them
27:02
are going to be pretty good players in NBA players.
27:04
As you heard when they were all interviewed, when Tom was
27:07
getting interviewed, they were all standing next to him.
27:09
They all look like each other, every single one of them and God
27:13
just stood there. The brothers were taking over
27:15
the interview. He didn't really say anything.
27:17
He's more quiet and the other the other three where the big
27:21
mouth the problems. So he was still alive.
27:23
He was he was still in disbelief, he was drafted by the
27:25
Hornets. He was contemplated that was
27:27
really I don't think that's a bad move for the Hornets.
27:29
It's a good move for the Hornets.
27:31
A good shooter he's not as good of a shooter as On Connie's
27:36
Connie's. A great shooter and if he could
27:39
develop a shot, even more in the perimeter side because he's a
27:42
great three-point shooter, he's got the fastest release in this
27:45
draft class. There's no question that he
27:47
does, but his offensive side of the his game.
27:50
Especially the 18th 17 foot jumpers, have to get better and
27:55
he's not a big guy. He really isn't out of all the
27:57
guys, I think, if I'm not mistaken, he's like six, six,
28:00
six, six, seven and in five to nineteen there, so he's even
28:03
smaller than I thought he was. So I just I think that God needs
28:08
to, I think develop more of an inside game and is he asked her?
28:12
I I do believe he asked to work on his 1718 foot, jump shot that
28:16
he's had problems, especially in the tournament, making those
28:20
1718 foot jumpers against the better defensive teams as we all
28:23
know what happened against Houston.
28:25
Yeah. All.
28:26
So the Hornets have to sharp shooter for a while.
28:28
Like what Michael Jordan when he was owning the team, they always
28:31
drafted to these hybrids and tried to make it work.
28:33
PJ Washington was pretty good over there, but Other studs in
28:37
college like Frank Kaminsky. That did not develop over there
28:39
and they just had trouble with a lot of these backcourt players.
28:41
They try to with Malik monk, it didn't work out there, they had
28:44
to trade him pretty quickly and canoe's probably the best one
28:47
that they've had in a while. It's a good fit like you said,
28:49
with lamelo ball, who's not the greatest. 3-point shooter, it's
28:52
not bad, but he's not great. And then Brandon Miller too.
28:54
The number two pick which I really liked at the time, but
28:56
it's still pretty raw as a 3-point shooter.
28:58
And then again, this is a class that a lot of people, we had how
29:02
many GMS assistant GMS on the show in the past.
29:05
They said that this class was going to be one of the better
29:08
classes we've seen in the last 15 years.
29:10
There all of a sudden you thought that the class was going
29:14
to explode right off the paper and it really isn't.
29:17
Now again, you don't know what these guys are going to
29:18
transition in. I remember when Dwayne Wade that
29:22
draft class Dwayne was a good player when he came from
29:25
Marquette, we didn't think that Dwayne was going to be as good
29:27
as he was, okay, so we knew what Carmelo Anthony was way.
29:31
Who was the the cast was in there know who A lot of people
29:37
thought was gonna be a super everybody thought that Darko
29:40
Milicic was going to be okay, that's what they thought he was
29:43
good to be and documented chick. Pretty fast was an absolute boss
29:48
and then eventually I think you only played seven years in the
29:52
NBA or six years and the NBA before he went back to
29:55
international basketball. I mean of those years ago was he
29:58
really playing know. He really didn't and Detroit he
30:01
was on a roster about this. Detroit, drafted Carmelo Anthony
30:05
that year because they have the number two pick.
30:07
Could you imagine how many more championships?
30:10
They would have won with Carmelo Anthony.
30:11
Just think about it Carmelo. Anthony Chauncey Billups
30:15
Rasheed. Wallace, Ben Wallace, Prince and
30:18
Hamilton on that roster. Forget about it.
30:21
They want two titles. They would have won, maybe three
30:24
in a row that that could have been a dynasty.
30:26
So they would have probably been the Golden State Warriors of
30:30
that era, but they didn't, and then eventually they traded
30:33
Chauncey Billups to Denver for Allen Iverson, remember that.
30:37
So, it's crazy how it just flipped flops and things.
30:40
Just absolutely changes. But I, it's I again looking at
30:44
this stuff in the top five there.
30:47
These guys are expected to be Stars your your top five top.
30:52
Six picks are expected to be starters and stars on their
30:56
rosters. I do believe I'm going to, I
30:59
know what people might attack me on this Ace Bailey might be The
31:03
most talented player in this class, he might be everything
31:07
that I have heard about him offensively.
31:10
The gifts that this kid has he is the Prototype of an Anthony
31:15
Edwards and the ability that this guy if he you know really
31:19
develops a better three-point shot, he might be unstoppable on
31:23
the offensive side of the ball. Yeah, he has upside that it
31:26
definitely screamed top three pick and he's got the body type
31:28
that's perfect too. Six foot nine 203.
31:31
I can shoot in a many different spots on the court and any team
31:35
that was drafting at that point maybe the Sixers Edgecombe was a
31:37
better fit for the type of position that he is because they
31:40
already have Paul George maybe Bailey's too similar to Paul
31:42
George. Maybe they didn't want to do
31:43
that but every other team, four through nine could have easily
31:46
used Ace Bailey, Bailey obviously.
31:48
I think he wanted to go to the Wizards.
31:50
I think that's why he was annoyed that you Todd drafted
31:52
him, he wanted to stay in the east coast.
31:54
His did you read his agent came out and said, nobody in the top
31:57
five, take him, he's agent, his agent, came out and said that
32:00
his age. Some more, he's an absolute
32:03
moral. I'm not just, I'm just saying,
32:04
like, it came out, I mean, obviously, it's a rumor.
32:08
So you talk has an absolute gem. I'm telling you right now you
32:12
and he's it's perfect him. Go to Utah is perfect for him
32:16
and his development, because he's not in a major city.
32:18
He's not gonna have to deal with Philadelphia Brooklyn, where
32:22
there's gonna be a lot of pressure on him, he's going to
32:23
Utah. Where Utah, besides their new
32:27
hockey team, they're all basketball.
32:29
That's all they are. It's only basketball.
32:31
You asked car Malone, you asked John Stockton, that was a place
32:35
if you want to develop, that's the place you go to because you
32:39
don't have to deal with anything but a small City and in all you
32:43
have to worry about, is the winter is, and how cold it is
32:46
over there. That's about it.
32:47
It's all basketball. It's a basketball town.
32:49
And I think he's gonna become a super good college football.
32:52
Yes, they do. But there I'm talking about
32:55
professional sports. The only thing that really have
32:57
over there is basketball. They do have a hockey team now
33:00
but That's still, it's gonna have to pick up.
33:02
They still have to grow over there.
33:04
When it comes hockey, it is all bad people and that's why Karl
33:07
Malone. And John Stockton car, Malone
33:09
left. The Utah Jazz at the detail end
33:12
of his career, he played for the Lakers but besides that come
33:15
alone was a life for over there in Utah.
33:17
And John Stockton never played anywhere else, but you talk and
33:21
you could see why I think it's the perfect.
33:23
Perfect. Slam dunk place for his family.
33:26
Yeah, it's another one that I upside too good.
33:29
Danny Ainge is no full. Errol Danny agency.
33:32
Know he does. He goes.
33:34
Oh wait is the next Paul? George sitting there for me at
33:38
number five? Oh he is he even.
33:40
Looks like in fact there's a team that doesn't want to take
33:43
them because they're hoping that Paul George is 10 years, younger
33:45
magically and healthy and he'll be able to play for them because
33:48
they're paying them a lot of money.
33:49
Training staff knows everything about keeping players healthy.
33:52
Look if it's me look, I understand taking knuckle in
33:56
Charlotte, they like taking a bunch of white guys who can't
33:58
play defense book and shoot the lights out.
33:59
They're gonna be terrible. They'll have more fun offense to
34:02
watch, but they're going to be terrible again.
34:03
Good for them, but I am really curious at the Edgecombe.
34:07
The Edge comb pick for the Sixers over Ace Bailey is,
34:11
what's gonna come back to the story.
34:13
We're going to talk about. I've seen a lot of guys, like
34:16
Edgecombe, get drafted, never develop a shot and then become
34:20
nothing in the league. He doesn't have a shot, he's a
34:23
42% shooter in college from the field, 34, from 3, that's below
34:29
average from what you're looking for.
34:31
As in number three, pick in the NBA draft, he's a super athlete
34:34
like Anthony Edwards, but for as many guys that are super
34:39
athletes, only a couple of them, develop a shot like Anthony
34:42
Edwards, only at that's good enough and Edwards is not the
34:45
best shot but it's it's much better than this and they're
34:49
taking the gamble that this guy is going to be the one this the
34:52
super Athlete. That develops, the shot over the
34:54
guy that can ball already. We see it and he's tall and he's
35:01
going to get bigger and stronger.
35:02
This is a bigger stronger version of Paul George
35:06
projecting. What are you doing?
35:08
I mean I love it because I hate that team and what they what
35:11
they did you know for years? I mean it's great for me.
35:15
Here's I think he's I think he's Anthony Edwards.
35:18
I really do his, his gifts, his athletic ability.
35:21
He dude he is the by far. The most athletic player in this
35:25
class. I don't think anybody's question
35:28
is athleticism, he is great now. Dylan Harper played on the same
35:31
roster but Dylan Harper was the quote on quote Superstar of the
35:35
roster and the only reason why Ace Bailey didn't get all that
35:39
glare and glory is because Ace Bailey, a lot of people believe
35:43
is a one dimensional player. Now, he could play defense, he's
35:45
a good defensive player but he's not a great one.
35:48
Dillion Harper is a is a two-way player.
35:51
He's a great defender. He's a great offensive player,
35:54
but here's the problem. When you look at somebody like
35:57
Ace Bailey, Ace Bailey can transition.
35:59
You could put him at the one, he could bring, he could dribble
36:03
the ball, he could play the one, he could play the two, he could
36:06
play the three. And he could, even probably, as
36:08
long as he is athletically gifted, as he is, if you need
36:12
him to at some point, play the four.
36:14
So offensively, he is so gifted. And by the way, he could go
36:19
left, he could go right. He strong left as well as he is
36:23
right and he could shoot the ball shoot the lights out of the
36:25
ball. So Madness Harold, I don't like
36:30
Carmelo did in college and they let him go and they decided to
36:34
take a project on offensive side, just a super he would have
36:38
never worked in Philadelphia, his personality.
36:40
I mean, just think of what he was saying when he was
36:42
interviewed, the first thing he brought up was the youngest the
36:45
honest because he was on social media and he was going back and
36:49
forth. We got us and yanis and LeBron
36:52
James. And I think Kevin Durant, I'm
36:54
not sure if it was Kevin Durant, or Kawhi Leonard said that this
36:57
guy is the best and most gifted athletic player in this year's
37:01
class. All three of them said that and
37:03
by the way some people are comparing his skills to Kawhi
37:06
Leonard too. I saw that.
37:08
So I don't know if he's the defensive player quality Leonard
37:11
is but but you're right. He's young.
37:13
And that's the thing. You don't realize when you look
37:15
at him, he's real skinny. Still he hasn't grown into his
37:18
body completely yet. He's still really young.
37:21
You can't project defense. He looks as soon as he gets
37:24
bigger and stronger, he's gonna be able to get lower to the
37:26
ground with his squats and his lunges and guess what?
37:29
He's gonna play better defense. Then he showed in college
37:32
because he's gonna be a better athlete because he's gonna be
37:34
able to do a full-time. I am not worried about the
37:36
defense. I just think to me, only reason
37:40
he doesn't go too in this draft is because Dylan Harpers that
37:43
good. I mean, Dillion Harper, his
37:46
father, pretty impressive basketball player in his own,
37:48
right? Yeah, he was, we don't remember
37:50
correctly, Ron Harper, one of the most dominant defending
37:55
point guards in NBA history. And people forget that because
37:58
when the Bulls everybody remember this, the 96 balls,
38:03
everybody talks about the 90s Hicks and how great they were
38:05
just think about it. All world, first team defensive
38:10
team that was on that roster. Dennis Rodman.
38:14
Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen all four four out
38:18
of the Five Guys on that roster where first team defensive
38:22
players just think about that. That's how good they do that.
38:25
Everybody keeps saying gold and stay golden state, they couldn't
38:27
start the Bulls. The 96 Bulls couldn't have
38:30
stopped the Golden State Warriors when they had Kevin
38:32
Durant bull crap. If you have all four of those
38:36
guys, Scotty Pippen takes out, Kevin Durant.
38:38
Michael Jordan, Steph Curry, you could have put on my mic, Steph
38:42
Curry or Klay Thompson. He stops any one of those guys.
38:45
Dennis Rodman, you put Dennis Rodman on.
38:48
Kevin Durant if you want he would have been a fleet to Kevin
38:51
Durant. None of those guys would have
38:53
had open shots or had the ability to go to the hole
38:56
without running into Dennis, Rodman smacking you around.
38:59
Okay, so I I don't know how anybody think.
39:02
I think the Bulls the 96, Bulls beat the Golden State, Warriors
39:06
the best Golden State. Warriors team whichever one you
39:09
want to pick in five games, five games, every Friday or to make
39:13
Dennis Rodman. Make Dream on green cry, though.
39:14
It's crazy. It's crazy Center on those
39:17
teams. I'm sorry.
39:20
Luke Lawson Center on the nucleus Luc Longley.
39:22
So they wouldn't be able to play Luke Longley against that team
39:25
like that. That's the thing.
39:26
Like today's game, we talk about all the time that that type of
39:29
Center can't exist in that against that type of offense.
39:32
Okay, we have to play without Rodman to Center.
39:35
They just play Rodman at the center and they would play small
39:39
as well, and that's all they would do.
39:40
And they've just spoke piping out there.
39:42
You forget, who was on there? You forget what's on, that,
39:45
Sally out with Sally on there. That's Steve Kerr.
39:48
Hold on. Yes, Steve Tony hooks, Tony
39:51
Cuco. Yeah, who coach should play the
39:53
four rod in the five. That's how cool wasn't wasn't
39:56
Robert Orion on that team. Know, he was on that team.
40:00
Know that was a Lakers know in 96.
40:03
No on 96, he was on the Rockets. He was on the Rock and then
40:08
Spurs then to the Lakers. Yes.
40:10
So he was Robert Horry when they when the Rockets won back to
40:16
back championships, Robin or was a part of that team.
40:18
So, and so was Clyde Drexler. Robert Horry was the third guy,
40:23
fourth guy, because you had Cassell Cassell was on that
40:26
team. You had Elijah won and you had
40:30
Drexler. And then a little bit later, you
40:32
had Charles Barkley on that team.
40:34
So crazy crazy to say Maxwell, I remember from those teams Vernon
40:39
Maxwell was on the Vernon. Maxwell was on the 94 team on
40:43
the championship team. The night there were two
40:45
championships. Yeah, I know, but I only watched
40:47
the one where the Knicks lost to them and I watched both, I mean,
40:51
he's sick to myself. I was young.
40:53
Remember, do you remember where where he went after the Rockets?
40:58
Maxwell. I don't, I would guess somewhere
41:03
obscure, I'll say Toronto after the Rockets he like one of that
41:08
on Toronto Or like Vancouver Grizzlies.
41:12
You know, I'm probably thinking about somebody else because I
41:17
Vernon, I remember Vernon Maxwell.
41:18
I wasn't very good NBA Jam. It was talking about NBA Jam.
41:25
Yeah, I love him. He got traded to the sixth
41:29
bounced around. Yeah, he was on a different team
41:32
every year after that. Yes.
41:34
You gotta remember when we were younger being in Nebraska, you
41:39
didn't get these like huge like stations.
41:41
I got TBS. So, obviously a bulls fan while
41:44
I'm a Braves fan. So like when we go to the arcade
41:47
and you got to play with these guys, that's what got me into
41:50
basketball and like basketball cards, and all that.
41:52
So like some of these, like, guys that I didn't know and then
41:55
I get older and then, obviously TV expands is how like I truly
41:59
genuinely got into basketball. So yeah, NBA Jam is a great
42:03
reference for me, usually in the 90s on fire.
42:06
In the 90s they didn't besides, if they weren't on the what did
42:10
they call it? The game of the week on ESPN or
42:12
something of that. Magnitude RV Albert.
42:14
Yeah, thank you. They didn't have the NBA
42:17
network. They didn't have wasn't at these
42:19
channels. You know, it was like Saturday
42:21
and game of the week, right? It was like, two, two games a
42:24
week. Yeah, they didn't have it.
42:25
So, and most of the time, it was Michael Jordan in the polls on
42:27
the game of the week because everybody wanted Michael Jordan.
42:31
They cared about and that's why they were a lot of bulls fans.
42:34
It everybody asked why there's so many bulls fans now and
42:38
Cowboy fans. Well, because the 90s, they were
42:41
a lot of frontrunners, the Cowboys won three championships
42:44
and they were as dominant as any team in professional football
42:48
and in the Bulls Michael Jordan in the Bulls won, how many
42:52
championships? Six championships.
42:53
They won three in a row. Then Michael Jordan retired for
42:56
two and then they want another three after they had a Dennis
42:58
Rodman. He came out of her time.
42:59
That's the thing is what? And this draft, I I'm not
43:02
comparing it to any other draft. I'm just telling you when we had
43:06
GM's on our show or executive GMS, they said that this class
43:09
was by far the best class and next year's class they said was
43:13
even better. These next two classes are by
43:16
far, the best classes we've seen in on that last 15 years and you
43:20
look at this class does anything besides a spelling Harper and
43:25
flag really stick out to you? I don't know, I knew people
43:29
could be a good player, he's a great shooter.
43:31
Like his development as his inside Game, and his 1718 foot
43:35
jumpers, which by the way, he could not hit against the you
43:39
against Houston in the playoffs, in the, in the final four which
43:43
hurt Duke going and moving forward to the championship
43:46
game, it was a big problem. So I just and again, we all know
43:51
the Hornet. So Hornets are an organization
43:53
that don't draft, right? And Michael Jordan is not even
43:55
running the organization anymore.
43:56
So I it's crazy. It really is there was a record
44:00
set during the draft. There is one other thing.
44:02
Before we moved into this round table thing, we're going to do
44:04
the Nets, made five first round picks.
44:08
It's never happened before. We're a team.
44:10
I mean, you've started a draft with five picks but they usually
44:13
trade a bunch of them to move up.
44:15
Not the Nets. We don't want to get anyone
44:17
better. Let's just With five picks and
44:21
then draft, four guards. And Danny wolf from Michigan
44:25
who's kind of like a ball handling Center.
44:27
So a bunch of guys that need the ball And they didn't try to
44:31
trade up to get a Bailey, that's five.
44:33
If you're sitting there with eight, right?
44:37
The Nets are sitting there with eight and then four other first
44:40
round picks and Ace Bailey, still on the table.
44:44
How do you not offer a couple? Maybe three picks to get up to
44:49
five, or to four, because knoop old, probably still there.
44:53
At 8. If they let him go 50/50 shot at
44:56
it. And not do that.
44:59
I don't understand what Sean marks is doing over.
45:01
Bobby marks is to Bobby marks. Now, he's at number eight for a
45:06
guy that was probably barely a top 20 pick.
45:08
He one of the marxists he should be able to not as good marks.
45:11
He should be a Bobby marks because he can't do anything
45:14
with the name. Sean, so I'm not skid mark,
45:16
listen, but actually his nickname, first of all, I don't
45:21
know if Sean is related to me. But he could be because I do
45:25
have family internationally. So is in the US.
45:27
It's Australian Australian. But the market family, my family
45:31
go all the way to Spain. So I don't know.
45:34
Maybe, Sean marks is related to me, but I I'll tell you this,
45:38
I'll tell you somebody that might be, I'm pretty sure is
45:40
related to me. There is a there is a God on the
45:44
Knicks. Jalen Brunson his wife, her last
45:47
name is Marx. And what I've heard is she
45:49
actually could be related to me. So the crazy thing that's a
45:53
crazy story. I I was talking to my
45:55
grandfather and I said, do you know, do you know this and that?
45:59
And he says that I he actually I got a look I got to look it up.
46:03
I got to do that ancestry something that's right I gotta
46:07
do that because I there's it's very hard that you're you're
46:10
you're you're you live in New York and you're from New York
46:13
and you're not related to my family so it's not many marks is
46:16
out here. So I'm just saying but
46:18
nevertheless, it was an interesting first day where
46:22
right now in A second round. And that's why our next segment
46:26
is the whip around. Whip whip around.
46:34
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, the whip around and now we're
46:37
gonna get into the whole first round.
46:40
We're going to talk about how many trades and we just
46:43
mentioned there were a ton of trades in this, in the first
46:47
round. So you know what's interesting
46:49
about all the trades that were made and there was back and
46:52
forth and we expect this because even in the NFL in the NFL, and
46:55
this year's drought draft, there were a ton of first round draft
46:59
a trades. And there were a ton of second
47:01
and third and fourth round trades.
47:02
So, you would expect that the NBA and even, the NHL, which is
47:06
coming up on Friday, you're going to see a lot of those two,
47:08
the Islanders that I've been hearing stories at the
47:11
Islanders, could actually move up to the top 15 to sneak in
47:15
there and get themselves. Another good player, especially
47:18
if they go with the defensive Shaffer at number one.
47:20
So there were a lot of Trades and there were a lot of
47:24
questions in this is speedy. What really stood out to you in
47:28
the first round this year? Yeah, I think a lot of the
47:30
guards that were drafted. I would say in that seven
47:33
through I would say 14 range where kind of those are the,
47:36
those are the key prospects outside of the ones, the net
47:39
Scott. I think when you look at fears
47:41
we talked about him on Monday going number seven.
47:43
I like the tray that Portland made or Memphis made as well.
47:46
Number 11, Cedric coward in that mix of trade to Memphis from the
47:51
Blazers a guy that's a good defensive well-rounded for it.
47:54
If he develops his offensive game, could be a nice steal for
47:56
them as well. I think that's one of the ones I
47:59
think traded up Miami's was my favorite.
48:01
Pick number 20, Illinois, kid, yakub you Honus.
48:04
That's another one for set it out.
48:05
I was surprised he fell as far as he was supposed to be
48:08
probably like a 12 or 13 range picking Miami's needed a shooter
48:11
for a while. I thought they were gonna go
48:13
that direction last year and and I'm going with the big man.
48:16
One of the ones I will, give another credit for is Atlanta
48:19
and ASA. Newell kid from Georgia to very
48:22
good scoring. One of the big reasons that
48:24
program was able to turn around this year and make it to the
48:25
tournament. So those are three trades I
48:27
think in the middle kind of in that cluster and as much as the
48:30
Nets did, if he was some of their other pics, I do like
48:32
drink Powell the kid. They From UNC.
48:34
How about will Riley? I like I've read a little bit
48:37
about him. He fell to 21 something people
48:39
thought he was middle of the draft type of pick.
48:42
He fell all the way to 21 and the Washington witcher's land of
48:47
from Utah. Yeah, he's a weird one because I
48:49
think some of his skills are definitely interesting.
48:51
He's kind of a weird body type though he's six foot eight, very
48:53
lean and I think that maybe it doesn't fit his game as well.
48:57
So he might be a little more of a project, but again, the
48:59
Wizards again, he's their third of these draft picks.
49:01
They also got a guard. Yeah, I mean that 68 car, that's
49:04
very lucky and it's very, it's a very strange type, but it could
49:07
work well say it's a six, a guard Arrow, but they just
49:11
traded him for Walter Clayton, Jr.
49:13
They got just gonna say that dominated the final four was the
49:18
most outstanding player and look, he's he just looked like
49:23
he was some kind of hybrid of Brunson in Haliburton and what
49:25
he was. They were doing in the NBA
49:28
Finals. He's only go only six, three.
49:32
Look, I understand, he doesn't have 6/8 size like a guy like
49:35
Riley, but there's a guy. There's only one guy that gets
49:39
most outstanding player of the god of the final four.
49:42
That's why this is Walter Clayton Jr.
49:44
And that's why we brought you tie.
49:46
And that's why I think Utah. I had the best first round and
49:48
of any team, they, they added Ace Bailey and then Walter
49:52
Clayton Walter, Clayton Jr, who went over there?
49:55
No fool and just no fool. I wanted to comment on one of
49:58
the trades. You mentioned Speedy.
49:59
There is a real real crazy thing in here.
50:03
On the second one I have is the Dairy Queen for Ace in Newell.
50:06
Now look, I agree. I like Noelle as well speaking
50:08
but look at what they had to give up next year.
50:11
So it's 13 for 23 and the better unprotected Pig of either
50:18
Milwaukee who doesn't have Dame and might have to trade Giannis
50:21
or New Orleans. So you know is going to be bad.
50:25
So that that means they're going to have a good possibly lottery
50:30
pick next year. It's not protected.
50:32
What if New Orleans tanks? This is why I hate the NBA draft
50:37
because this protected and not non-protected type of pick.
50:41
I don't like it. If you're trading the pick,
50:43
that's what you're trading protected or not.
50:45
Could be number one, it could be.
50:47
Number one overall you're saying.
50:48
Yeah, I understand that. I'll tell you this.
50:51
I don't know. I never understand anything they
50:53
land. A hawks.
50:54
They draft these athletically gifted, forwards and Center's
50:58
and they all fall right to the waistline.
51:00
I don't know much about this kid.
51:02
Derek Queen, but everybody says well the Hawks get Newell so
51:06
they traded him to I Ireland. So he goes to what that doesn't
51:11
matter. They drafted Dairy Queen.
51:13
Okay, they drafted this guy. I read a little bit about the
51:17
guy. He had 16 and a half points and
51:19
nine rebounds but anyway it was a 76 and a half free throw
51:23
shooter, but here's the problem. With him.
51:25
Everybody looks at everybody was watching his combine, his
51:28
vertical leap, and all this other stuff.
51:30
Oh, he's so athletic that doesn't help you in the NBA.
51:33
I mean, who won the Slam Dunk Contest.
51:36
The last three years, a guy that's a g League player, a
51:39
Bonafide G League player. His what is his vertical jump is
51:43
Leap, is what 53 and a half inches of some magnitude.
51:46
I mean, who cares what is vertical leap is?
51:48
What could he do on a basketball court size?
51:51
Obviously you can't buy size, but you need that kind of that,
51:55
you need that kind of talent and I've been reading a lot about
51:58
this guy, Derek Wayne maybe that's why it landed at him to
52:01
New Orleans because I didn't make any sense.
52:04
He's just another product of guy that they drafted over the years
52:06
that Fall flat on their face. Yeah, they've had trouble with
52:08
big man too. They reached on a USC big man, a
52:11
couple years ago too that I think went number eight and he
52:13
has an amount to anything. I think they were thinking of
52:15
already trading him so they yeah.
52:17
They've had trouble maybe that's why they had to trade reporting.
52:19
It's like he's mentioning in the comment section.
52:20
They need some level of size to make that kind of thing is, give
52:23
me a break but good luck. Good luck.
52:25
Of course then saying Help. It's interesting, you mentioned
52:28
porzingis, because before the draft as you know, there were
52:32
flurry of Trades Arrow. We haven't had a chance to talk
52:33
to them, talk about them so we have them up here as well and
52:37
porzingis. So we might as well start there
52:39
was a three-team, trade two, the Hawks again another place that I
52:44
guess they didn't need queen. I'm not a queen fan personally I
52:47
mean the band Queen I liked but Dairy Queen.
52:50
I don't think he has great athleticism.
52:52
I think he's like a very, very picky version.
52:55
I thought they were reaching when they when they made that
52:57
move to bring him in and that obviously people like them, he
53:00
hit that buzzer beater in the tournament.
53:01
I just tried the highlight of it.
53:03
You know, but like I just don't, you know, you do realize what
53:08
the Celtics are doing right now, you do realize it, I don't think
53:11
anybody is blind to see what's going on next.
53:14
Year's free, agent classes, ridiculous Dodge it could be a
53:17
free agent next year. That Mikey C believes no matter
53:21
what Don chick is probably leaving the Lakers, and if he
53:23
leaves the Lakers, there's a very good chance.
53:25
He could go to South Texas. And he also believed that four
53:28
years, five years would Cooper flag because of the Fall.
53:31
He always grew up a Celtic fan, that's where he's heading and he
53:35
believes that, he would be surprised if Don chick and flag
53:38
or playing for the Celtics in the next four years.
53:41
Tell Mikey he's not go get those new.
53:46
Know, but you tell Mikey see that Selena Gomez Oreos are the
53:51
real deal and he knows where to stay, well, he definitely knows
53:54
where to stick him. But I, I will say this, you know
53:57
what the Celtics are doing. Now, the Celtics are going to
54:00
play next year with Jalen Brown, who's getting knee surgery as we
54:04
speak, but we'll be ready for the beginning of the Season, my
54:07
missed the first few games of the season but he will be ready
54:10
for the season and Derek white. That's all they're gonna have
54:13
and they have the six Man of the Year.
54:15
What's his sister? That's it.
54:17
That's all they have. So they're a borderline playoff
54:20
team at best so they might not even make the playoffs and if
54:23
Jalen Brown's decides to dilly dally all season long and take
54:27
his time, getting back in, you know, getting back to playing
54:30
basketball, they could miss the playoffs and be a lottery Pick
54:33
and could, and knowing the NBA and what they NBA loves to do as
54:37
we seen with the Dallas Mavericks, and being at the
54:40
Celtics in the Lakers are the NBA's face of their
54:45
organization. I Wouldn't be surprised if the
54:48
Celtics get a top five pick next year and a class that's
54:51
absolutely loaded to to combine with Jalen Brown and Jason
54:55
Taylor. You really think the LeBron
54:57
James? Hold on.
55:00
I, it took me by surprise because he said NBA, I had to
55:04
like I had to, I had to double double.
55:07
That's why I'm trying to be nice tonight but we all know it's the
55:15
LJ So, I'm speaking. I'm speaking, I'm speaking the
55:19
truth here, that's all. I'm one of LeBron's Faith
55:21
running buddies, who may Force his way?
55:23
We thought might Force his way to the Lakers decided, not to he
55:27
resigned three years. 119 million Kyrie, Irving the Flat
55:31
Earth or himself, decides to stay in Dallas because guess
55:34
what? They just got Cooper flag.
55:36
Of course, he's gonna stay in Dallas.
55:38
He gave up on like three extra million dollars on a one year
55:42
deal to turn into a three year deal just under 40 million.
55:45
He was doing like for 43 this year.
55:48
So he makes out I also I also believe that Anthony Anthony
55:53
Davis. Now will stay over there and
55:55
they got a three guy. They got a threesome right over
55:57
there. And if Anthony Davis stays
55:59
healthy, you got probably one of the best young fours in the NBA.
56:03
You could put Cooper flag as a three or four, he could play
56:06
multiple positions and and you have Anthony Davis, even if he
56:10
can't stay healthy, they could play small and move Cooper Flagg
56:14
to the five, who's gonna stop Cooper Flagg.
56:16
I got at the five and he just can't quite capable of doing
56:19
that. So he could play multiple
56:21
positions. So they're dangerous.
56:24
And Kyrie Irving those, they're going to be dangerous next year.
56:26
Who's gonna, everybody keeps talking about what?
56:29
Houston did getting Cooper. Flagg Changes, Everything
56:33
Changes. Everything on the Western in the
56:35
Watts Western Conference. Now it does and you don't have
56:38
to force him to kind of do everything big right away,
56:40
either. If you're big man is able their
56:41
able to say healthy too and you could let flag play as offensive
56:45
game a lot more and the fan. Please move absolutely
56:48
ridiculous. I know, I know, I know but you
56:53
you were thinking about trading them at the trade deadline and
56:55
now, you extend him. Does that make any sense?
56:57
I mean, seriously, it does. I think it does Arrow because
57:00
when they had him at a much higher cat number, he was a
57:04
problem for them to deal with on and make make additions to their
57:07
team at 25 million a year. That's a, that's a pretty good
57:11
contract for a starting guard in this league.
57:14
I would say, that's average. Money for a guy.
57:17
This point, I mean, NBA's mate, doing really well.
57:19
The cat keeps going up. 25 million is money for an average
57:23
above average, starting guard. And that's what van Fleet is on
57:26
these and All Star, but he's better than average and now he
57:28
gets to play with Kevin Durant. I'm sure.
57:30
Kevin. Durant said, keep guys that know
57:32
how to get me the ball on the team.
57:33
Van Lee knows how to do that. So trade Dillon Brooks, who
57:35
doesn't know it got to do anything but it's okay.
57:37
Nobody just try to instigate. Well, look at, look at a 2026
57:44
free agent market. Now, Damian Lillard is probably
57:48
going to be gone. He's probably gonna retire.
57:50
LeBron James. If he steps away, he's retiring.
57:53
He got Bradley Beale, Kevin Durant, Trae young Luka doncic
57:56
Zach, LaVine, James Harden, DeAndre ayton de Aaron, Fox CJ,
58:02
McCollum khris Middleton. Kristaps poisoning is Julius
58:07
Randle Isaiah, hornstein, Andrew Wiggins, I mean, this might be
58:10
the best reunion. This might be the best free
58:13
agency class the NBA's had in about 10 years, just think about
58:17
it. There's still a lot more on
58:19
that, on that list of of players that you have Jared Jackson's
58:23
gonna be a free agent Tobias. Harris.
58:25
Now friend, Fred Van Lee is not gonna be a part of that dream on
58:30
green. He's probably done.
58:31
So, I mean, if you look at Terry Rozier, he's going to be mikal
58:36
Bridges. If he doesn't sign with, the
58:37
Nixon is coming off season, he could be a free agent and on.
58:41
A call Caldwell, Pope could be a free agent, Aaron Aaron Gordon
58:46
an on, and on and on Marcus Smart.
58:48
This is a great class next year and I think that's what the
58:52
Celtics are opening hoping for, if they don't get a top five,
58:56
pick or a lottery pick next year, they could get one or
58:59
maybe two of these guys to play with Jalen Brown and a hurt
59:03
Jayson. Tatum I don't know if Jayson
59:05
Tatum is gonna be the same player coming back from an
59:07
injury like this, but he still gonna be a goddamn good player.
59:09
Yeah, they have a lot of variety.
59:11
They can go after her too. Like the Celtics are pretty
59:13
positioned position list, where they come to the versatility,
59:16
where they could fill a lot of guys in and still able to make
59:18
that kind of thing work with that free agent class.
59:20
So, definitely interesting again.
59:22
Well, we'll see if the the lja is going to manipulate that that
59:25
much because we really know if LeBron loves the Celtics but
59:28
yeah, they definitely have a plan if they're trying to get
59:30
under the salary cap apron. Whatever they call that quickly.
59:33
It just think about it, just think about that class next year
59:36
in 2026 who's going to be available.
59:39
Teams are going to open and that's Why?
59:41
I don't understand why would they get Fred that kind of
59:45
contract when they could bring in one of these other big names
59:48
that could be available next year.
59:49
You know it's it's interesting though they were able to get
59:52
Durand and they had paid these larger contracts.
59:55
Who did they trade for Durant? Nothing.
59:57
But did they give up? No.
59:59
What were the players and players, right?
1:00:02
Jalen green. And those.
1:00:04
Well and Dillon Brooks was making like 22 million a year.
1:00:06
I like doing really and if I was a lot for Dillon Brooks, If I
1:00:10
were the Knicks, if I were the Knicks, I would do whatever I
1:00:13
can to pry him away. So Phoenix I would, I think
1:00:16
Dillon Brooks would be a perfect fit with the Knicks.
1:00:18
I really don't. I don't disagree with that.
1:00:20
I like him as a player but the thing is When you overpay guys,
1:00:25
and I think Houston did this intentionally because they had
1:00:27
to pay somebody. No one was coming there.
1:00:29
They just had all this draft Capital.
1:00:30
So now you can overpay guys. And guess what?
1:00:33
Now, when you have to try to acquire a star, the contracts
1:00:36
match up because you have a couple of guys that make a lot
1:00:39
of money that you're not afraid to get rid of.
1:00:41
So Van Vleet at 25. If they can upgrade to a real
1:00:45
like a top-notch point guard, he's very easy to include in the
1:00:49
trade because of that big figure that he's gonna have at 25, you
1:00:53
know, at like 37 or whatever, 35, whatever was Speedy.
1:00:56
Previously was former contract that was tough, but at 25 very,
1:01:01
very tradable asset for a guy like that.
1:01:05
I think it's a smart decision. It's I think it's very Like kind
1:01:10
of irregular, everyone's doing different things, Sam pressed.
1:01:12
The obviously is cornered, the market on everything in the NBA.
1:01:15
Oh I don't. I love what.
1:01:20
Okay, see did and this year's class, you ready for some draft
1:01:23
grades. You want to do some draft grade
1:01:24
so we get out of this. Let's do it.
1:01:27
All right, so I guess we go alphabetical.
1:01:30
We'll go start with the Hawks Atlanta.
1:01:33
Hey. Yeah, I like their draft.
1:01:36
Like I said with with I love the tree, like brought up that late.
1:01:40
Yeah, I would give it space crazy.
1:01:43
I give it a B plus They might get the first overall pick next
1:01:46
year or a lottery Pick. And, you know, the lottery.
1:01:48
You never know. It's it's just crazy to give
1:01:51
that up for the number. 13 overall guy in Queen.
1:01:54
Who I think, I don't know if I don't like those prospects.
1:01:58
I'm not crazy about the NBA game now.
1:02:01
Smart. Buy them, Boston.
1:02:04
Not bad. I'll say B minus.
1:02:06
I like what they did when it came to trading, kristaps for
1:02:08
singers and Drew holidays. So I'm gonna give them an A
1:02:11
minus Give it a B minus. Yeah, they got some foreign guy.
1:02:17
I don't know enough about him Hugo Gonzalez.
1:02:19
Speedy Center. I again it looks like they're
1:02:24
kind of just punting. I'm gonna say B, B minus, so I'm
1:02:27
like that Brooklyn. Yeah, see my way too.
1:02:31
Demon is the big hole at 8, Nolan tray. 19, Drake Palace. 22
1:02:37
Benson. I like that 26 and Danny wolf at
1:02:40
20. So I like Powell.
1:02:41
And for me, not crazy about the rest.
1:02:44
I I go D, it's hard for me to understand.
1:02:48
I like dammit package. I liked it, I liked them into
1:02:51
like demons good. I think diamond is going to be
1:02:53
good. He's a tall.
1:02:54
Foreign point guard, you know, point forward like that.
1:02:58
That's he plays in the NBA, I'm sure he does.
1:03:00
But if you could have got an ace Bailey, I'm getting still gotten
1:03:04
a guy like wolf at the end of the first rounds, I'm gonna get.
1:03:08
I don't know how you don't pull a trigger.
1:03:09
I'm gonna give him a B minus. I I do believe, at least two of
1:03:13
the four guards or five guards. They brought in are going to be
1:03:17
Daft decent and I I do like them.
1:03:19
Damn, I think he's gonna be a good player.
1:03:21
I really do and we've seen over the years.
1:03:24
When, when the Nets draft, a foreign player they usually turn
1:03:29
out to be pretty good. So I'm gonna I'm gonna Bet On
1:03:32
Demand, I think demon his father, he comes from a family
1:03:35
of great athletes. I think demons going to be a
1:03:37
pretty good player and he's a quiet player, he's not one of
1:03:40
those flashy players, I think if you go to a New York, Team, you
1:03:45
have to be a quiet place because you don't want to really stand
1:03:47
out when it comes to the public in the media.
1:03:50
So I like that. I'll give him a B minus.
1:03:53
All right, let's go to Charlotte.
1:03:54
Charlotte took canoe and McNeely from Yukon former Champion as
1:04:00
well. And they just took us on James
1:04:02
in the second round as well just now from duke as well.
1:04:04
They had a pretty good draft. I'll give them a minus.
1:04:09
I'll say you're going minus, ya minus.
1:04:13
I don't think anyone plays defense that they picked, I
1:04:15
don't know if they play these. They need more storing those
1:04:18
badly but they definitely accomplished improving the
1:04:20
right. I like knoebel.
1:04:21
All right, I just want to see his game develop.
1:04:24
If it develops and you have lamelo ball on one side and
1:04:27
canoe on the other. I mean, that could be scary
1:04:30
offensively. Now, both of them, don't play a
1:04:32
lick a defense and they're gonna have to find a way.
1:04:34
And did they trade their Center? Didn't they trade them?
1:04:36
Yeah, he wants a phoenix, see what?
1:04:38
The Phoenix. So they could have a problem at
1:04:40
the center size side of the bowl, too.
1:04:42
So, um, I'll give them a bee minus.
1:04:46
I don't get it Chicago, they took the Frenchman as single
1:04:52
way. Definitely had some up.
1:04:54
Still a little raw for my liking at 12.
1:04:57
I'll get I'll give it a B minus, I think it's fine.
1:04:59
I don't think it's great. Yeah, he's athletic.
1:05:03
But I mean I've seen highlights but haven't seen enough but I
1:05:06
think there's enough upside especially with the guys that
1:05:09
we've seen coming in from, from Spain and all those places.
1:05:12
So I'm gonna go be I'm a big language, dude.
1:05:16
Creighton guy. I'm gonna go be lanky, dude.
1:05:20
I'm gonna go B. Plus I do like the kid.
1:05:23
The question is which Chicago? And again, I love I I said this
1:05:27
again. Donovan is a great coach but he
1:05:30
really hasn't transitioned from college.
1:05:32
To the NBA, we have to see how these kids are going to develop.
1:05:35
He's still there and and I know the next one and interview them
1:05:39
and they never gave Chicago. Never gave him gave him a chance
1:05:42
to interview him but I I do believe that he understands how
1:05:46
to develop young kids and he's slowly.
1:05:48
We're starting to slowly see some of these young players
1:05:50
develop in the G league and now they're coming.
1:05:52
They're getting called up to the NBA and and Billy Donovan's,
1:05:56
getting a chance to really put his hand print on the
1:05:59
development. So we'll see.
1:06:00
I I still believe it Billy Donovan, so I'll give him.
1:06:04
I'll give him a B+. All right, let's move on to, I
1:06:09
think the most obvious one, Dallas Mavericks.
1:06:10
That's a plus everybody. That's pretty easy.
1:06:14
I don't give anybody any Plus. I don't give anybody any plus
1:06:18
actually, you were that teacher Errol?
1:06:21
I'm From, I'm gonna give one team in a plus and that she
1:06:26
would talk. I absolutely.
1:06:28
I'm giving you Don a plus for what they did in this year's
1:06:31
draft. So they're the only one.
1:06:32
Let's go down the line alphabetically.
1:06:35
We got the Clippers next LA Clippers.
1:06:39
So they got so they won. They got niederhauser at the end
1:06:43
of the draft Conan. Niederhauser who's Swiss played
1:06:47
at Penn State? He's 6/11 73 wingspan, led, the
1:06:52
big Tenon blocks? That's the first Penn State
1:06:54
dude. Ever drafted in the first round.
1:06:56
Yeah, I was gonna say it's only new basketball program that
1:06:59
emerged two years ago. They want to turn them in game.
1:07:01
They almost want to get the Texas team that went to the
1:07:03
nearly went to the final four. So big.
1:07:05
Part of that. Yeah, I don't even know who the
1:07:07
kid is. Okay, I don't know.
1:07:08
It Conan neither Hauser, never heard of him, never watched him
1:07:13
play. I'm reading what other people
1:07:15
are creating them. The bee, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna
1:07:18
grade him a c plus because I don't know who the hell he is.
1:07:20
So, he's a big man with questions about his hands, and
1:07:24
he's not, and he's not, did you watch a play at all?
1:07:26
This year? I'm gonna say, there's a reason
1:07:28
why we don't get a lot of Penn State bigs in the NBA.
1:07:31
And I think it's gonna stay that way.
1:07:32
Never saw him because we played against the Big Town.
1:07:37
Never. had anybody since Mikey Moore, Cheese Howard.
1:07:49
B plus I really like that Tech. I like that trade.
1:07:51
I think it's still wrong but I think for that value.
1:07:54
It's nice. Replaces Bane and I think the
1:07:59
link that he has, I mean he's not super tall but his wingspan.
1:08:02
I think the link that he can give on the perimeter I think
1:08:04
will really help a lot of people.
1:08:07
Know, I just from what I've heard, I just heard he's an
1:08:10
unbelievable kid too. The only thing that the Problem.
1:08:13
I've been reading about and everything that I've read
1:08:16
before. draft is That I've read about him and why he fell.
1:08:22
Some people thought he could have been a top seven pick.
1:08:26
He fell to 11 because of that. Now his athletic ability and his
1:08:30
ability offensively is amazing and this kit could be an
1:08:33
All-Star type of player. But the question is, you know,
1:08:36
when you hurt your shoulders specially shooting the ball,
1:08:38
that puts a lot of torque on your shot.
1:08:42
You got to change it. Remember one guy, he was the
1:08:45
number one pick, Mark tells faults, remember him.
1:08:47
He had shoulder problems, he had shoulder surgery.
1:08:50
He went to the NBA and he was an absolute bust.
1:08:53
If you remember we didn't see a lot of he was hurting even in
1:08:57
college. No.
1:08:57
But I'm just saying your shoulder surgery well and it
1:09:00
showered in college is a 39% 3-point shooter.
1:09:03
That's fine. So this guy can shoot it if he
1:09:06
gets comes back from the injury and he can shoot it.
1:09:08
That is basically the game, listen, six foot five seven, two
1:09:13
wingspan at six foot five. So this is the type of defensive
1:09:17
prospect that can shoot. Randy defense, man.
1:09:21
Fresh markell's. Faults was one of the best
1:09:23
players in college when he went number one.
1:09:27
Number one, make it to the tournament.
1:09:29
It doesn't matter. They related state, Washington
1:09:31
State. The last what I'm saying?
1:09:33
He was, he was one of the best players in college, and then he
1:09:36
goes to the NBA and he couldn't shoot a free throw.
1:09:39
He couldn't shoot a shot. How was the first time you
1:09:42
actually hit a shot? What was it two seasons before
1:09:44
bedtime? I mean, the fact that they took
1:09:47
him instead of Jayson Tatum in that draft is still one of the
1:09:50
most unbelievable. Well, nobody except yours truly,
1:09:53
because I'm a Duke fan, Phil Jason, I thought, but let's keep
1:09:59
going. We go to you said you liked this
1:10:01
picture. The Miami Heat.
1:10:03
Yeah. As far as Yakuza oh yeah, the
1:10:06
Lithuanian. The Wayne was another guy.
1:10:09
That's a sharp shooting three pretty good vertical as well.
1:10:12
I think for an Illinois team that another one that's been a
1:10:15
rising program as well and it's actually a Miami needs shooting
1:10:18
for a while. They just overpay a bunch of
1:10:22
Yeah, I'll say a minus. I like that pick for them.
1:10:25
They need they need some shooting at Riley is a genius.
1:10:29
He's a genius. And if there's anybody that's
1:10:32
going to get it right and find a guy and fall to him, it's Pat
1:10:35
Riley. And the fact that he fell the
1:10:38
way he did. What was it?
1:10:38
21 20, he went and he was projected only 12 or 13.
1:10:42
He went 20 and he was projecting, maybe even in top
1:10:45
ten. Some people thought people were
1:10:47
very surprised that he fell as far as he did.
1:10:49
I'm gonna give them an A+. I mean, a not any plus I only
1:10:52
get one. Hey, I'm gonna give him an egg.
1:10:55
Better than give that Riley's hair.
1:10:58
One of the great greatest hairs hairdos of all time, I'm gonna
1:11:00
Timberwolves. Took someone named Joan Beringer
1:11:04
He's a center. Got nothing on him.
1:11:08
Yeah. I don't know much about him
1:11:11
either except a little bit. I saw in the Olympics but again,
1:11:13
depth for the center position, I'll give it a seaplace.
1:11:18
I don't know. I A Center named Joan.
1:11:21
I'm gonna say d. You don't know, you don't even
1:11:27
know, I don't he's from he's from a foreign country, he's an
1:11:31
international player and some of these things like a spy name,
1:11:34
some of these, some of these International Players, some of
1:11:39
these International Players, really develop.
1:11:41
He's got tremendous size, tremendous feminist by
1:11:44
tremendous length. He's got a good shot, everything
1:11:47
that I've read, he's a flashy player and he's going to be,
1:11:50
there's some people compare his shop blocking skills to Rudy
1:11:53
gobert. So I don't, they already have
1:11:55
that guy, though. That's fine.
1:11:57
We don't know if they need another another Rudy gobert.
1:12:00
Okay. Zillion dollars.
1:12:02
How do you know the keeper maybe they're looking?
1:12:04
They traded so much for him though.
1:12:06
They have to keep him, they got rid of to do anything, you would
1:12:09
look stupid. If you got rid of him really, I
1:12:11
think to keep him instead of town, I see a lot of teams trade
1:12:14
players for a lot of picks and they wind up trading them, two
1:12:18
years down the road. We've seen this before, let me
1:12:20
call A Rod, see what I can do. Go ask the net, just posted that
1:12:24
go ask the next, it's one of the guys at the fan of Kenny show
1:12:28
apparently Beatles. All right, it's time to dump on
1:12:31
a team. Let's talk about the Pelicans,
1:12:33
Derek Queen, We already that we already talked about that trade
1:12:37
giving up the potential potential unprotected lottery
1:12:39
pick next year to go from 23 to 13.
1:12:42
They get Queen but they also drafted Jeremiah fears at 7 that
1:12:46
a lot of people had much lower than seven.
1:12:49
Well, I like this. I like this 76ers draft broom.
1:12:52
He he's this is the guy. This guy was one of the best
1:12:56
players in the country. All season long for Auburn.
1:12:59
Felt at the second round. I like this.
1:13:01
I like this pic. Yep.
1:13:02
Who is that broom? That's what he did.
1:13:06
The combined, He couldn't do, he couldn't even like jump off the
1:13:10
ground. It was so bad, his combined
1:13:12
numbers that they assumed that it was like he was playing her
1:13:16
and he actually just doesn't look like like a good athlete.
1:13:20
Unfortunately for the NBA standards, well he does say that
1:13:24
about eating. Look how Good.
1:13:26
He was this year's. I was a president.
1:13:30
First of all, eating eating was the MVP of college basketball.
1:13:35
This guy was right there. He was the, he was one of the
1:13:37
best players in the country. All season long and you're gonna
1:13:40
say, no for two years in a row, actually Auburn.
1:13:44
Well, he plays in one of one of the best he plays in one of the
1:13:49
best divisions in college basketball.
1:13:50
How could you say he's a below the rim center, who's got, who's
1:13:55
tall and in the NBA, I just don't think you can play that
1:13:59
way. Unless you could have consistent
1:14:00
outside shot and I don't think you want that guy calling out
1:14:03
being pulled out offensively or defensively.
1:14:05
He's gonna be a starter by it. He's gonna be a starter for them
1:14:08
and in the next three years, he's a good player.
1:14:10
I like him. I think he'll be starred in
1:14:12
somewhere, in Canada, or something like that.
1:14:14
We gotta keep going. We're almost done as our guest
1:14:16
in yet, no soon. Get in touch with Nathan, maybe
1:14:20
nothing can look at Trenton. We got the defending champs.
1:14:25
The Thunder took Thomas sorber at 15 from Georgetown.
1:14:30
Another little, he's a six nine Center, but a 76 wingspan, very
1:14:36
strong player, touch at The Rim. A lot of people like to pick.
1:14:41
Yeah, I did. So I'm gonna say B plus I'm
1:14:43
saying minus. Yeah, definitely good value
1:14:44
trading up in that spot. Six nine, big big guy, 260
1:14:47
something pounds too for again, a Georgetown team, nothing
1:14:50
around. I don't think I'll ever attack
1:14:52
anything presti does. I really don't, I can't, I think
1:14:56
press these an absolute Juggernaut right now.
1:14:59
As a GM, everybody talks about Meijer and what Myer did for
1:15:03
golden state? Presti is the next Meier.
1:15:05
He's done everything right everything, he touches turns to
1:15:09
gold or platinum or whatever you want to call it.
1:15:12
I love it. I love everything they did in
1:15:14
the first round and they didn't just have one pick.
1:15:16
They had multiple picks, so I love it.
1:15:19
They just really did a great job.
1:15:21
I I think that They did that as like Insurance in case.
1:15:26
They can't keep Harden Stein. When the next contracts come up
1:15:29
for their young guy, they're not keeping sense.
1:15:31
They're not keeping know, you know what I mean?
1:15:32
Like that 30 million a year. Now you can replace it with this
1:15:35
young guy. I think it's smart or Lando took
1:15:38
the son of a former player. Jason Richardson goes to the
1:15:43
Orlando Magic, obviously Jason Richardson a long time, stud
1:15:47
player over there and a couple other teams as well.
1:15:50
So you know, Michigan State. What do you guys think?
1:15:53
Not crazy, I will play effective.
1:15:55
Yes, I do. I'm worried about it because
1:15:57
he's not a great overall shooter, he's fast, but I think
1:16:00
his size is worrisome. Even give that on a c minus.
1:16:03
I don't think he's going to be good.
1:16:05
I would say, I agree with speeding.
1:16:07
I watched watching play a couple times, obviously against us.
1:16:10
I mean he's an Energizer Bunny but it's just I don't think
1:16:14
there's enough there if he grinds it he can come off the
1:16:18
bench. First you know what's crazy
1:16:19
about former players their sons. Go to the NBA, they never
1:16:23
develop into what their fathers were I mean they're very few
1:16:26
Gary. Payton Jr, has really become a
1:16:29
pretty decent player. Scotty Pippin, it's Scotty
1:16:32
Pippen son has been a decent player in the NBA but they're
1:16:35
not stars like their fathers. I LeBron LeBron James.
1:16:38
We see what he is. So I Dwayne Wade.
1:16:41
Son everybody thought he was going to be a good player.
1:16:43
He's playing in the G League because Dwayne Wade, is partial
1:16:46
owner of the Utah Jazz. So a lot of these Sons really
1:16:50
don't develop into anything. Who do you think of just real
1:16:53
quick? Sorry to segue.
1:16:54
But what about who do you think of all the superstars that we've
1:16:57
had in the NBA whose son has been?
1:17:00
Maybe not, I can tell you right now, he's playing for
1:17:02
Sacramento. He'll get his bonus.
1:17:06
That's, that's the bonus. I think he's been unbelievable.
1:17:10
He's been, he's not his father yet but he's transitioning into
1:17:14
it. He's a great two-way.
1:17:15
We never got to see what his father was.
1:17:17
I did hear he came over here, many years after his Prime and
1:17:22
he was fat and had been had knee surgeries.
1:17:24
They say he was like the European Michael, Jordan.
1:17:27
Yeah, it was young like he was incredible but it's, it's, it's
1:17:32
got to move on to a team that we didn't really think much of
1:17:35
coming into the draft. Come away with two Centers
1:17:38
Phoenix Suns. Mark Williams, they get in the
1:17:41
trade with the Hornets and came in Hammond Malachi.
1:17:46
That's a dude. That's a dude.
1:17:47
You like fish from duke. Get a guy that young and he's
1:17:51
able to play it on that stage. He gets experience at a young
1:17:54
age. You like his ability to be a
1:17:56
switching big like Mitch Robertson was able to do for the
1:17:59
Nicks. We talked about it.
1:18:00
If Mitchell Robinson had the exposure of the Duke, maybe he
1:18:04
would have went as high as Milwaukee went, right?
1:18:06
Right here, I think it 10 speed I'm comfortable at 10 taking him
1:18:10
there. They were talking about higher
1:18:12
than college basketball. That's why he was in the first
1:18:14
exposure, though. It's like you see, The guy play
1:18:17
and you see how important that skill in today's game is to be
1:18:22
able to come out from under the basket and play perimeter
1:18:24
defense. Mitch, that's so good.
1:18:26
If Mitch played college basketball, he was a top 10
1:18:29
pick, he's a top 10, pick, he something with Florida state
1:18:33
with him or know as it was sbu, right?
1:18:35
Wasn't you? It was, it was Larry Brown.
1:18:40
It was something going on with Larry Brown and there was a
1:18:43
scandal at the time. Yeah.
1:18:44
And he fell to the second round and that's why why the Knicks
1:18:47
Larry Brown? Yeah, so the other guy is
1:18:50
Williams. We talked about Williams here
1:18:52
because he was the guy that LeBron James.
1:18:55
I mean, the Lakers vetoed being traded to them at the trade
1:18:58
deadline they fail him on a physical.
1:19:02
Which apparently he was fine after he fell to physical, he
1:19:06
didn't have to sit out miss any games, he kept playing the rest
1:19:09
of the year. I think LeBron got a poster dunk
1:19:12
on him or something, like two games after I guess he just
1:19:14
doesn't like that guy. But now he's over in Phoenix,
1:19:17
he's a good Young Center. Phoenix is doing smart things.
1:19:19
I got to give him an A minus. I think, I don't know if the
1:19:22
malak's, A Difference Maker, but it's so smart.
1:19:23
How do you know? Like, first of all, the whole
1:19:26
story behind Malik and what he, what he did and, and by the way,
1:19:30
17 years old, he started playing basketball.
1:19:33
This guy didn't even stop playing basketball till later in
1:19:36
his career. I was a guy that played for the
1:19:39
New York Giants that didn't start playing football until
1:19:41
later in his career. And you know how great he became
1:19:44
and the story behind it. He comes from such a good
1:19:46
family, he's a good kid, everything we've heard about
1:19:50
him, he's going to be a special play.
1:19:52
I think he could really be an old world defensive player in
1:19:56
the NBA. He's a good shot, blocker, he's
1:19:58
a great rebounder and he really didn't even fully develop in.
1:20:02
Into his NBA body yet. I think it's a great pick by
1:20:06
Phoenix and now you have two big men and you can play Big after
1:20:10
losing and now you do you play or do you build your team around
1:20:14
Booker, or do you move Booker that's the question and then you
1:20:16
build your team around green and start?
1:20:19
Maybe trade Dillon Brooks? I don't know.
1:20:21
Like you said, you can also go big and you don't you're not
1:20:24
really counting on him to score because that's that's an asset.
1:20:27
I was game that he needs to work on but defensively he could help
1:20:30
now. Yep.
1:20:30
But they said that his offense was a lot better than people are
1:20:33
saying that it is. He got, he was like a young 18
1:20:36
like when he got there. So you'll see that just
1:20:39
scratching the surface, good job by them.
1:20:41
I thought they were gonna be terrible.
1:20:42
Maybe they're not gonna be as terrible.
1:20:43
Here's someone that might be terrible.
1:20:44
Portland Trail Blazers, drafted handsome yang.
1:20:48
At 16 in a trade from Memphis, I don't know what the big head.
1:20:53
Scratchers seven one center from China.
1:20:57
I mean, he was sitting in the stands, not really explosive.
1:21:02
I I don't not really a great defender.
1:21:04
He's a post-up player. Again, not really a big part of
1:21:07
the NBA. I don't know what they're doing
1:21:10
over there. That's a d for me.
1:21:12
I don't know, boys, I'm with you on that.
1:21:14
I was, I strangest picture, I don't know him.
1:21:16
I don't know anything about them.
1:21:18
I put the Trailblazers over the last couple of years, they have
1:21:22
absolutely bombed on everyone of their picks.
1:21:25
They had a top three pick. What was it two years ago?
1:21:28
And Scoot is still a Glee. He might not even be an NBA
1:21:32
player. Yes, school.
1:21:33
And then they took clinging who if I'm not mistaken wasn't bad
1:21:37
last year. Here is also a center.
1:21:40
So, you just took another Center.
1:21:42
What do you do it? I don't get it with a guard.
1:21:47
Is your head coach? Honestly, the NBA draft, and I'm
1:21:49
gonna say it's a crap. Shoot after the top seven picks,
1:21:52
it's a crapshoot. And I'm gonna tell you this
1:21:54
right now, there's gonna be a guy in the late first round and
1:21:58
maybe two or three, second round picks.
1:22:00
That are going to be really, really good players in the NBA.
1:22:02
You wouldn't have, you wouldn't have expected because the NBA is
1:22:06
just, it's a crap. Look at the NHL too.
1:22:08
If you look at over the last couple of years, yes, you're
1:22:11
gonna find good players in the first round.
1:22:13
You're gonna find guys in the third fourth and fifth round
1:22:16
that are going to be Stars. I the NBA only has two rounds
1:22:19
hockey's like that because the player the player types are a
1:22:22
lot more is been like that too. They've been undrafted players
1:22:26
that look at. Okay.
1:22:27
See look at how many players that will undrafted that were
1:22:31
part of their rotation, winning a championship.
1:22:33
Look, how many Julie players they had coming, uh, coming to
1:22:37
OKC and winning and a championship.
1:22:39
And they've got a lot more to go, I think.
1:22:41
Okay, see can win multiple? Being ships in the next seven,
1:22:45
eight years. So I, I disagree, we don't know
1:22:49
what these guys are going to be and how they're going to
1:22:50
transition as players. All we know is Dillion Harper is
1:22:53
going to be good, Ace. Bailey's gonna be good and
1:22:56
Cooper flag is going to be great.
1:22:57
That's about it. We don't know any other player
1:23:00
that's gonna really stand out. And I'll tell you this out of
1:23:03
the top 10, I would say, six of them are gonna be busts.
1:23:08
Six of them know, we'll find out.
1:23:10
Soon enough. I'm sure we got the boss.
1:23:14
I skipped one, I skipped Philly. Let's talk about Edgecombe for a
1:23:19
second because he went third overall.
1:23:21
Now, he shot was a little better last year 36% from three, but
1:23:27
he's really a better story than in my opinion, then a prospect,
1:23:32
like, obviously came from nothing.
1:23:33
His mother was there with his mother at the draft, gave her
1:23:36
big hug talked about how they came from nothing.
1:23:38
You root for guys like Vijay Edgecombe, I just don't know if
1:23:42
I take him third, when Ace Bailey, There.
1:23:44
And there's a whole bunch of and there's a lot people should be
1:23:47
trying to get that pick. You could have traded off of
1:23:50
that pick Sixers meet quite a lot.
1:23:52
I also don't think they necessarily need guard play when
1:23:56
they have Matt. I mean, maybe a two guard, but
1:23:58
Maxi and McCain. I don't know.
1:24:02
I don't know if I would have went that route.
1:24:04
I would have went for the next full, George I would have done
1:24:07
that, so, yeah, I love them. I give them a B minus.
1:24:09
I like the player Edge comb for the fit at the two guard.
1:24:13
He might emerge over Jeremy McCann.
1:24:14
I like Jerry McCann, too, but I think he could emerge over him.
1:24:17
So I'll give it a beef for that reason.
1:24:19
But yeah, right. I'm not bust, I'm not crazy
1:24:21
about like the process of it boss.
1:24:23
He's gonna be a bust. That's all I'm gonna say.
1:24:26
I do not like Edgecombe. He doesn't have any offensive
1:24:29
game really. He's a great defender.
1:24:31
He's one of the best defensive players in his class.
1:24:34
He just is offensive game. Is he reminds me of Arrow?
1:24:38
It was Michael, Kidd, Gilchrist was drafted.
1:24:42
Second overall years, and years ago.
1:24:44
And they thought he was going to develop a shot and he was a
1:24:47
great defender Kentucky, right? Yeah, no.
1:24:51
He had one of the worst shots anyone ever had and he couldn't
1:24:55
play John Mayer. We all know.
1:24:59
So, all right. Let's let's get.
1:25:00
Well, we're almost there. Sacramento took neat Clifford, a
1:25:04
senior from Colorado's love it. I love it. 19 points a game,
1:25:08
almost 10 rebounds, a game, four and a half assists shot, 37 and
1:25:13
a half percent from any, senior player, any senior player.
1:25:16
I believe. If you play four years of
1:25:19
college basketball, you're going to be a pretty decent player in
1:25:23
the NBA. I same thing with college
1:25:24
football. I mean college football, if you
1:25:27
play a certain amount of time in college football and you develop
1:25:29
your skills, you're gonna be a pretty decent plan.
1:25:31
I think the kids gonna have a pretty good and be a crazy.
1:25:33
He's not gonna be a star but he'll be a good player.
1:25:36
Yeah, maybe I would say this is the one I like for Orlando that
1:25:39
I think they should have taken in stats.
1:25:40
So I like it a lot of give me minus Okay, we gotta rapid fire
1:25:45
through the rest of them. Obviously, we should talk.
1:25:47
We talked a lot about Dylan Harper, already talked about the
1:25:49
Spurs or other pick was Carter Bryant at 14 3D Wing type.
1:25:54
It's classic Spurs pick. Get one of those guys to just
1:25:57
hassle. Everybody while their stars are
1:25:59
making moves, they seem to be loaded right now with young
1:26:02
talent. I don't know how far fits with
1:26:05
Fox. I would imagine that means Fox
1:26:07
is not going to be long term. Do do I?
1:26:10
I like Harper. I think that's an A minus.
1:26:13
I'll say a minus just because of the fits weird right now.
1:26:16
I'll give it a night. I already told you what I
1:26:18
thought. So, yeah.
1:26:20
Yeah. All right, one of the more fun
1:26:22
job. But you mentioned this pick in
1:26:24
the draft, Toronto to Colin, Murray Boyles at 967 Wing,
1:26:29
another wing for the Raptors. They have.
1:26:33
Here's the wings on their team, gradey dick RJ, Scotty Barnes,
1:26:39
Brandon Ingram, Oche, agbaji, and they're all between 66 and
1:26:44
68. Yeah, he when he when he got up,
1:26:47
if you watched him, he was buttoning his suit and he just
1:26:51
dropped an F-bomb and they slowed it down.
1:26:53
And you see it because he's like, oh really, I'm gonna go to
1:26:55
this team that has five of me already.
1:26:58
Brutal. Get the only thing I really
1:27:00
stood out to me about Colin Murray Boyle's is his
1:27:04
girlfriend. She wanted to talk about this.
1:27:08
She looked good. The Jazz Ace Bailey and Walter
1:27:13
Clayton Jr. Ah, I'm going.
1:27:16
Hey, if you got the most outstanding player in the final
1:27:20
four, and the most talented, you know, guy that dropped in the
1:27:24
drafts, you get an A+ Ace Bailey, mmm, 8, plus plus you
1:27:29
don't give a plus zero. You just said that I told you
1:27:32
there was only one team. I was one.
1:27:33
He said he's only gonna give one.
1:27:35
I'm gonna give one and Utah is an A+ A+ plus.
1:27:39
That's what that's the same. We mentioned will Riley earlier,
1:27:43
but the big pick they had the Wizards was trade Johnson at
1:27:46
six, great shooting guard, average, 21 points, a game love,
1:27:51
what the Wizards did love what the Wizards did.
1:27:54
I think the Wizards got better. I think the Utah Jazz.
1:27:56
Got better. Obviously, the Mavericks got
1:27:58
better? Those are the three top teams
1:28:01
that I thought won this year's so far.
1:28:03
First round draft. That's what I like.
1:28:05
I like their picks too. Now.
1:28:06
Trade Johnson, was a little questionable with the character
1:28:08
issues, what I heard, but I think it's a good spot for him.
1:28:10
Give me a beat Plus. You can't replace that kind of
1:28:13
shooting and athleticism. I'm going, I'm going to a minus.
1:28:16
I really like Riley as well. All right, so that's it, guys.
1:28:20
That's the offseason Round Table.
1:28:22
Oh, right. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
1:28:25
before we get our guests in and we go to our Sports minute, we
1:28:27
have our Deuce of the day, the news not a lot.
1:28:34
I don't have a lot but All right, our two of the day goes
1:28:44
to Justin Tucker. As Justin Tucker gets Let Go by
1:28:49
the Baltimore Ravens. Justin Tucker is now going to be
1:28:54
suspended, not one, not two, not three, but ten games next year
1:29:00
as he was playing Dipsy Doodle in the massage parlors and Now
1:29:06
ladies and gentlemen he's gonna be dipping 10 games.
1:29:10
So the NFL wants to drop the hammer on somebody, they're
1:29:13
gonna drop the hammer on arguably one of the greatest
1:29:15
kickers of all time. So the deuce of the day goes to
1:29:18
the one and only Justin Tucker by the way, the New York Jets
1:29:22
when Justin Tucker comes available or if he's available
1:29:26
right now, if you're anything, you want to bring in Justin,
1:29:30
Tuck, I don't care what he does and his private life.
1:29:31
As long as he's not doing anything stupid or illegal, I'm
1:29:35
bringing Justin Tucker. He's by far the best kicker
1:29:38
we've seen or a Volta time. I mean percentage.
1:29:41
Wide, he's the best kicker we've ever seen.
1:29:43
So any team with a weapon of that magnitude you should be
1:29:46
going after him when he becomes of available.
1:29:48
So that's our two of the day. When we come back, lady is in
1:29:52
gentlemen. We have a very special guest.
1:29:54
Thank you to the old nithin boy, as we will have yes, eight year,
1:30:00
former NFL vets safety Play for the Browns, play for the Broncos
1:30:06
and the Buccaneers from 2010 to 2017.
1:30:09
The one, the only TJ Ward. But first our Sports minute with
1:30:16
the one and only fish men himself.
1:30:24
And the mouth Sportsman is. Yes, it's Aaron Fishman here
1:30:30
once again for a sportsman. And we got some sports in
1:30:33
baseball to go through before that a few stories.
1:30:37
The Los Angeles Clippers star guard.
1:30:40
James Harden is in a lot of hot water.
1:30:42
After being sued for negligence, in a civil complaint filed in
1:30:46
Harris County. Texas.
1:30:47
That also accused his heart and his nephew Justice Army
1:30:51
Blackburn of sexual assault at hardin's house in Texas, on New
1:30:55
Year's last year, the plane of Marisa wattley alleges that
1:30:59
Blackburn date rape her and a few other women on New Year's
1:31:02
and that hardened security guards removed her friends from
1:31:05
the house that tried to find her the next morning, leading to
1:31:09
this negligence suit against heart and security staff.
1:31:12
Since New Year's Day, when I reported the rape by Mr.
1:31:14
Blackburn to the police, I have remained puzzled by how Mr
1:31:17
hardened security behave, that day.
1:31:19
It is painful to imagine that all, this could have been
1:31:23
stopped in time. Wally said in statement, I hope
1:31:25
this complaint pushes security employees Generally to act more
1:31:29
responsibly when women are in danger Harden has not publicly
1:31:34
commented about the suit or incident the Tampa Bay light
1:31:39
attempt, I'm sorry. Tim the Bucking years signed
1:31:41
head coach, Todd Bowles and general manager.
1:31:43
Jason Lite to contract extensions after their fourth,
1:31:47
straight end of NFC South title division, title bowls who has
1:31:52
led the team for the past three seasons was extended through the
1:31:55
2028 year, while light who is the fifth longest tenured GM in
1:31:59
the NFL at 12 seasons was all given a multi-year extension,
1:32:02
but these terms are not been revealed Jason and Todd's
1:32:06
leadership has been critical to our organization success.
1:32:09
The winning culture, they have established has a
1:32:11
well-positioned for the future, that's from Bucs owner and
1:32:15
chairman Joel Glazer the continuity and stability.
1:32:18
They provide will play a large role in our ability to compete
1:32:22
for additional championships bowls who was the defensive
1:32:25
coordinator for the Buffs on Bruce Arians before.
1:32:28
Over his head coach upon his retirement, has the best Rush
1:32:31
defense in the league. Since he took over the defense
1:32:33
in 2019 and is well, positioned for another playoff.
1:32:37
Run in. What will likely continue
1:32:39
football? Bowls has a losing record as a
1:32:43
head coach in his career but that jet stinks seems to be
1:32:46
fully off at this point and the Bucks and Baker Mayfield have
1:32:49
their leaders in place for the foreseeable future and finally
1:32:53
Brave star outfielder Ronald Acuna Jr.
1:32:55
Announced that he will take part in this year's Home, Run Derby
1:32:58
before the All-Star game at his home.
1:33:00
Stadium in Atlanta Acuna who missed most of the past season.
1:33:03
And the first couple of months of this year, we covering from a
1:33:05
tourney, c l, came back with a vengeance.
1:33:08
So far this in 2025 and his heading 383 but nine homers in a
1:33:12
1.182 Ops and only 107 at, that's already over to warning
1:33:20
places, coming back from the knee injury.
1:33:22
I'm just happy to announce that I'll be participating in this
1:33:25
year's Home Run Derby and I'm even more excited to be doing
1:33:28
it. In Atlanta, in front of our fans
1:33:30
between you said with an interpreter.
1:33:31
They're a big reason I'm doing this, I'm Ronald Acuna Jr
1:33:35
because of their support. I'm just excited to go back home
1:33:37
and do this for them. The Braves will help Acuna can
1:33:41
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1:33:44
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We're not talking to former eight year NFL, safety play for
1:36:32
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The one, it only TJ Ward TJ. What's up buddy?
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What's going on? What's going on?
1:36:43
How's everything? You look better than I do, man.
1:36:46
I've been dealing with sleep apnea.
1:36:48
I had to go on a Cruise stopping deuces.
1:36:53
Toilets. I mean it hasn't been very, very
1:36:55
good for me. Everybody thought.
1:36:57
Hey, you go to Bermuda, you get to go away and I got, I went
1:37:00
away and almost got arrested. So that's a whole nother story.
1:37:02
How are you man? You, you've been away from
1:37:05
football? You've been away for football
1:37:06
for what is it now? 67 years now.
1:37:09
It's been a while. What have you been doing?
1:37:12
What if you've been doing since football is been done for you?
1:37:17
Well, first off, I have a 4 year old so that's mainly, I got so
1:37:22
I'm facing him around and he's getting into activities now.
1:37:25
So he just asked soccer camp last week getting some tea ball
1:37:29
and Flag football. So really with him.
1:37:33
And then business wise I started at agency in il and professional
1:37:40
representation for NFL NBA. So that company is called player
1:37:45
above Sports and my non-profit. So, War, boy project, those
1:37:50
three things keep me busy. So you're an agent.
1:37:52
That's What you do? That's your know, I'm not Asian
1:37:55
know, I'm not an agent. I'm the CEO founder I got and I
1:38:00
have agents that are certified. Well, that's good.
1:38:02
I mean, you, you could be certified.
1:38:04
We I mean, this is a certified agent.
1:38:07
If you really wants to be, you want to trust nithin, could you
1:38:12
imagine if in and I love Nathan, Nathan is great.
1:38:15
He's our PR guy, great personality, such a nice kid.
1:38:18
Could you imagine if and go to a high school football game and he
1:38:22
starts to talk about the p's and q's or the X's and O's when it
1:38:26
comes to football and if you're you're scouting or running back
1:38:29
or a quarterback or even a defensive lineman, could you
1:38:32
imagine if in TJ going going to a high school football game and
1:38:36
trying to recruit one of those guys?
1:38:38
Yeah, man. No doubt really.
1:38:40
You just not be yourself, man. Be yourself know the game and
1:38:45
You know, it's hard work but, you know, I'm determining and
1:38:49
it's not easy, hasn't been easy, and I'll ever see it being easy,
1:38:52
but it's so many things that's changing in the game.
1:38:55
And in the atmosphere of nil and college, and professional, you
1:38:59
know, NBA draft was yesterday, that was crazy.
1:39:02
So, there's so much going on in the industry, but, you know, you
1:39:06
just got to keep holding, you know, keep striving.
1:39:08
Are you still find and be a player's the second rounds
1:39:11
tonight and who knows? You could find another yolk it.
1:39:13
So yeah, not this dress, not just drive but no hope you see
1:39:17
me in the green room. So man, that's the goal, that's
1:39:20
the goal. I'm trying to be the draft
1:39:22
night, all right? So why don't we go through your
1:39:24
career and, and the Browns are an organization that up in a
1:39:27
laughing stock for many many years.
1:39:29
Okay? They have a quarterback right
1:39:31
now named Deshawn Watson. He likes to go to parlors and
1:39:37
hang out with a lot of interesting people while he's
1:39:39
doing it, he might be very good friends with Robert Kraft.
1:39:42
I don't want to get into that. I want to get Into your career
1:39:46
and your thoughts of the Cleveland Browns, the
1:39:48
organization in the fans? What was it like playing in
1:39:52
Cleveland. It was cold now, man.
1:39:56
It was you know, it was miserable losing know, but the
1:40:00
fans are so great. They keep you motivated and you
1:40:03
know, they always there cheering but man it the losing part just
1:40:07
sucks man in the track. The turnover Coaches, every new
1:40:10
coaches every year and new GM, you know, it's the instability
1:40:13
is the biggest problem. I feel in Cleveland, right, you
1:40:16
know, you gotta have some stability and you gotta know,
1:40:19
pick something and write it out for a little bit and see what
1:40:21
happens. But, you know, I don't think
1:40:24
really anyone. There has had a great long
1:40:28
enough tenure to do anything. So, you play against a lot of
1:40:32
good players in that AFC North that was loaded at the time,
1:40:34
they have three playoff teams. I believe like, two straight
1:40:36
years and like that, or some of the best battles you had both
1:40:39
physicality wise, and even like, any individual players in that
1:40:42
division. Oh man, you like you say that
1:40:45
was the peak of that division. So you know I came in as a
1:40:48
rookie right into the fire. I'm like, man, we got the
1:40:50
Ravens, we got the Steelers, The Bangles and that their time, you
1:40:54
know, they were loaded but um, it was fun, man.
1:40:57
It was fun when we you see over there, you got Ray, Lewis, and
1:41:01
Ed Reed and you know, Flack on them, Ray Rice and everybody
1:41:05
else. And next week you got Pittsburgh
1:41:06
with ruthless burger and Troy and So, it was like, in within
1:41:11
your division almost, you know, being in, you know, the Pro Bowl
1:41:14
every week but no, it was tough. It was tough.
1:41:16
We got it. We got ours though, I'm not
1:41:18
gonna lie, we got ours against Pittsburgh a little bit and we
1:41:20
definitely got ours against Cincinnati and Baltimore.
1:41:23
But it was everyone else that we couldn't, we couldn't seem to
1:41:27
get them W's again. But definitely black and blue
1:41:30
division. What TJ like, you know, I played
1:41:34
for 14 my career. What what did you find the
1:41:38
hardest thing? Like, the adjustment from Team
1:41:40
to team like schematically just Clubhouse stuff, or just trying
1:41:44
to figure out, like, where do I fit in?
1:41:47
And what role do I play? Oh, I think schematically, you
1:41:51
hit it on the head. I tell people all the time like
1:41:54
every division is almost like college a division and college
1:41:57
football like the style of football is different.
1:42:00
So coming from the AFC North you know how we just mentioned it
1:42:04
was black and blue division. A lot of, you know, riding your
1:42:07
face, straight up straight at you and play action and you
1:42:10
know, it's heavy ball. When I got to Denver, the AFC
1:42:14
West, it was West Coast more style wide open, a lot of
1:42:17
motions shifting and Priests snapping things where it wasn't
1:42:20
that much in the NFC North, you know, it was a little faster,
1:42:24
you know, smaller backs and wide receivers but you know, it was
1:42:28
an adjustment, it definitely wasn't adjustment and I did, I
1:42:32
carried that weight from the AFC, North, to the AFC West, and
1:42:36
I realized I had to cut a couple pounds because it's a little bit
1:42:39
faster. Man.
1:42:40
I'm like, I can't get, I couldn't transition the same
1:42:42
with that weight on. That's everybody knows.
1:42:45
We are talking to eight year, former vet from the Nfl safety.
1:42:51
TJ Ward play for the Browns, the Broncos.
1:42:52
The Buccaneers TJ, obviously you played with a lot of great
1:42:56
safeties. And you mentioned Polamalu, and
1:42:59
then you have every two Hall of Famers, two of the greatest
1:43:03
safeties of all time. When you look at the game and
1:43:06
how it's transitioned, from the time that you played to, now
1:43:09
what safety that you have watched over the last couple of
1:43:12
years, has really stood out to you from the best from all the
1:43:16
other ones. oh, The best out of all, I wouldn't say there's a
1:43:27
best out of all. I can't, I can't say that
1:43:29
there's one that just Peaks overall on, but, um, I
1:43:34
definitely like Derwin James. He's been a guy that I like to
1:43:37
watch Justin Simmons. My dog in Denver, he's had a
1:43:40
great career is being released recently or the last couple
1:43:45
years in Green Bay, you know, he's been doing his thing.
1:43:50
There's a few guys out there guys.
1:43:52
You haven't mentioned yet. I Bates who was done wonders, I
1:43:57
was going to get the base. That was my next guy and Kyle
1:44:02
Hamilton who has been fantastic over there with the Baltimore
1:44:06
Ravens, another safety that they they find them.
1:44:09
I think they're an organization that knows how to find another
1:44:12
one. Yeah, starts is another one
1:44:15
that's gonna be a good player too.
1:44:17
So I I think that's why I just wanted to know what you thought
1:44:20
the safety position from when you were playing.
1:44:23
And now, from the top safeties, young safety is that are
1:44:26
developing right now in the NFL who you think are, are the next
1:44:29
and up-and-coming superstars in the NFL. yeah, yeah, those those
1:44:33
handful of guys, I say hitting pretty hard, you know, hit me
1:44:37
and still doing this thing out there in Minnesota for the ogs
1:44:41
So you played with all very loaded, secondary in Denver,
1:44:44
probably the best in my time watching, football, three, some
1:44:46
of Corners that they've had that they had with Harris, to leave
1:44:49
and Bradley Roby. And then you played alongside
1:44:51
another good one in Darien Stewart and that in that wheat
1:44:53
Phillips defense for a while. So what was it, like, with
1:44:56
playing at those guys on that defense?
1:44:59
Man, it was a pleasure like it was a pleasure going out there
1:45:03
every day competing with those guys.
1:45:04
It may ball, easy know you really just had to a lot of
1:45:08
times when I was in Cleveland I feel like I had to make up you
1:45:12
know for other players or I had to do more than I was asked to
1:45:17
do. But in Denver you knew that that
1:45:19
wasn't needed. Just do your job and we'll be
1:45:21
all right. And so sometimes I couldn't even
1:45:25
get to do my job before the play was made.
1:45:27
So having those guys out there with the same mindset saying
1:45:30
competitiveness, the Brotherhood off the field coming to work was
1:45:33
easy. What do you think?
1:45:35
Like obviously, you're not that far in from the game but games
1:45:38
evolved, they changed like and obviously rules have changed
1:45:42
their little different than when you started.
1:45:44
Is there some that you like in there, some that you dislike?
1:45:47
And if they are, what would you change about him, man?
1:45:50
Of course, you know, I don't like some of the personal foul
1:45:53
penalties for late so or whatever.
1:45:56
Those type of situations are with the quarterback, slide and
1:45:59
late. I think we're getting penalized
1:46:01
too much for some things that, you know, are out of our
1:46:04
control, which started when I was like on the back, end of my
1:46:07
career with targeting and such. But some rules that I do like
1:46:14
Hmm. You know, I don't is there any
1:46:19
rules as dear to us. I think they put the like the
1:46:22
chop blocking rule at the cookout on the offense and
1:46:24
they're not allowed to crack back either which is cool.
1:46:28
For us, the keep us safe and you know that's about it.
1:46:39
We are talking about eight year NFL safety, TJ Ward.
1:46:43
TJ, you played for a Super Bowl championship team, the Denver
1:46:48
Broncos, I remember that team. You've had a lot of Hall of
1:46:52
Famers, two of them that are have been inducted to the Hall
1:46:55
of Fame. What was it like playing for
1:46:57
Super Bowl team? And what was it like playing
1:47:00
with a guy like Peyton Manning a superstar player at the tail end
1:47:03
of his career personality wise and just talent wise what type
1:47:07
of player was he? I'm going to tell you, I went to
1:47:11
the Hall of Fame parties, the ceremony, two years in the row.
1:47:14
I started to think I was going to go every year like hey, this
1:47:19
is cool. I'm at the hall of fame every
1:47:21
year with what about teammates but no it was amazing man,
1:47:24
having Payton, you know, directing the ship being the
1:47:28
captain. Dude, that was just such a fun
1:47:32
team, right? We had so much fun on that team,
1:47:35
Peyton. He's just wanted to guys like
1:47:37
everybody else. And I can really say too much
1:47:44
more like what you see is what you get the same page and cast
1:47:47
and all that you see on TV that's what we were doing with
1:47:50
the locker room, you know, so Other than the business aspect,
1:47:55
it was a lot of fun. What's he?
1:47:56
Your favorite teammate? What on that team?
1:47:59
Who was your favorite teammate? I mean, it was a lot of my
1:48:02
favorite teammate with my dog, a key man, that's my favorite
1:48:05
teammate. I don't know, on the school, we
1:48:09
all ran together. We were pretty tight on Chris
1:48:12
stool, beware Roby Kayvon. Um, Know we wrote thick man, we
1:48:20
wrote deep and that's why we were so tight.
1:48:22
You could argue tonight on that team.
1:48:24
He was a fun one too, as a defensive tackle, the night was
1:48:26
on there. When I first got there he wasn't
1:48:28
on the Super Bowl team. But yeah, he still he he was
1:48:31
tonight was the one that welcomed me to Denver.
1:48:33
That's my boy, man. Your secondary was unbelievable.
1:48:36
That was probably one of the top two, secondaries in all of
1:48:40
football. If I'm not mistaken, Talib
1:48:42
wasn't he traded to the Broncos? Yeah, I've never freezer.
1:48:47
We all started free agent, do I, I'm always box training to the
1:48:50
Patriots. That's what it was, the
1:48:52
Patriots. That's what it was because to
1:48:54
leave. We bounced to like three teams
1:48:56
in less than four years and and maybe because of his
1:48:59
personality, but he has an interesting personality.
1:49:02
Even now I don't know him personally, but I watch all the
1:49:05
things that he posts up on social media.
1:49:06
He's got a unique unique personality.
1:49:10
So man, look, that's what you should have been down there on
1:49:14
the locker room on the sidelines.
1:49:15
You talk about personality between Me.
1:49:20
Chris Harris. Oh my God.
1:49:23
Peyton, you know, a manual Sanders.
1:49:27
CJ Anderson, like it's just full.
1:49:29
The whole team is just full of pranksters Jokers and shit, but
1:49:35
dogs at the same time, we're not playing no games.
1:49:38
CJ Anderson was a very good playoff, running back too.
1:49:40
I've ever, I could have a Giants fan.
1:49:42
I remember when he was with the ramps and he played against the
1:49:44
Cowboys at the playoffs, and I hear the whole Todd Gurley Saga
1:49:48
where he was hurt. And then was he really heard
1:49:50
that CJ Anderson goes for like 175 yards against them and I'm
1:49:53
ready for the Super Bowl. So again, I did Be told.
1:50:00
So you see that Patriots game in that?
1:50:03
Um it was a regular season game where we won.
1:50:05
I think I don't know if we went to overtime, it was close but it
1:50:08
was snowing. CJ had a long run for the game,
1:50:11
so TJ. Do you think like you're talking
1:50:15
about the camaraderie and everything and went in?
1:50:17
Do you how big of a part do you think that plays like knowing
1:50:22
He's got my six, he's got my back.
1:50:24
You know he's gonna ride with me.
1:50:26
He's gonna die with me and he's going to give it everything I
1:50:28
got just like I'm out because there's obviously accidentals of
1:50:31
it but When you get to that point, I mean, you're grinding,
1:50:35
like you're doing everything to feel because weighing 100% when
1:50:40
we get to that point, we're trying to get to where we can.
1:50:42
But where do you think that camaraderie and like, knowing
1:50:45
each other has their back plays a part on getting to next week
1:50:48
to next week because y'all is different like it's either you
1:50:51
you win, or you lose and go home.
1:50:53
Yeah. I think that plays a big part in
1:50:57
what we do, but we have a chance.
1:50:58
Y'all don't have a chance. So, how does that play a part
1:51:02
and do you think it plays a bigger part Than People realize?
1:51:05
I probably say like the most important behind you gotta have
1:51:09
a talent out there first, you gotta be able to have the
1:51:12
ability to players out there and you gotta have a decent skin.
1:51:15
Like it got to be decent, you don't have to be the greatest,
1:51:17
but if you got to tell in the decent school, then you'll be.
1:51:20
All right. And then next I say is the
1:51:22
camaraderie, the cohesion and how you guys get down together
1:51:25
and those three things make championships, he's Super Bowl.
1:51:35
Some of the greatest quarterbacks.
1:51:37
True. Peyton Manning.
1:51:38
He has Tom. Brady, great, great quarter, Ben
1:51:41
Roethlisberger, you played against a lot of these.
1:51:43
Top quarterbacks. When you look at the
1:51:46
quarterbacks now and the athletic ability that some of
1:51:49
them have Lamar Jackson, you see, Josh Allen?
1:51:51
These guys are like beasts and and Josh Allen's like six foot
1:51:56
six 250 pounds and he runs through people like a fullback
1:52:00
when you look at the game then and you look at, now, if you are
1:52:04
playing now, how would you stop? How would you defend those type
1:52:09
of guys like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and all these mobile
1:52:12
quarterbacks that are playing today?
1:52:16
Oh man. I think.
1:52:20
I mean we've had our fair share ourselves and Mike's around but
1:52:26
you know, I would Not like to do that every week is Chase
1:52:31
somebody around out the pocket and when we blitzing and he
1:52:35
finding somebody is not my favorite thing to do.
1:52:37
That would like that was my least favorite when I played his
1:52:41
quarterbacks like, Russell Wilson, Mike Vick.
1:52:45
Who. When the play breaks down finds
1:52:47
extra times or scrambles and gets the first down man, I just
1:52:51
I'd rather have somebody that sit in the pocket and then when
1:52:54
it breaks down he has a throw it away or so.
1:52:56
And if you find a guy and he's on time with his throw but you
1:53:00
know, me being usually the Spy or somebody that got to come out
1:53:03
to Zone and Chase the quarterback.
1:53:04
It's not fun watching the game right now.
1:53:07
Who do you think is the best quarterback in the NFL?
1:53:11
Who the best quarterback right now in the NFL.
1:53:15
Still Patty, man. It's packed.
1:53:18
I don't know why I thought that I was being so drama time for
1:53:29
sure. Why?
1:53:30
Why do you think he's the best? I think he just has a dab of
1:53:36
everything, man. He has the scrambling ability he
1:53:39
can run. I wouldn't even say he has the
1:53:43
best armor or anything like that.
1:53:45
He just seems to make the plays In the best moments.
1:53:50
So um his offense is definitely favored him.
1:53:54
I think he and he read is a guru at what he does but that tandem
1:53:59
right now where they want to call it, Randy's or whatever
1:54:02
it's packed. But, you know, I think Lamar is
1:54:06
a very close second, but overall, it's packed.
1:54:08
So shifting. I know you mentioned, you.
1:54:10
We have an agency shifting to the college football, the big
1:54:13
nil Rule, and that just got passed with the.
1:54:15
Now, the schools can actually directly pay the players within
1:54:18
a damaged. Speedy, what are your thoughts
1:54:20
to that rule? And how do you think it'll
1:54:22
impact college football college sports?
1:54:25
I'm interested. Um, I can't say I don't like you
1:54:30
anytime you're there allowing the players to get paid, but I
1:54:33
just we have to really see how that's going to be formatting
1:54:37
and what it negates and what it allows right.
1:54:42
There's always some loopholes when you see the acceptance of
1:54:46
something is always something in fine print.
1:54:48
So we got to see what's going on with that fine print.
1:54:51
But right now it sounds good. Well, that was gonna be my
1:54:55
question because I got a son playing baseball in college.
1:54:57
So I feel your pain on the four year old.
1:55:00
He's at Hutch, okay? Yeah.
1:55:02
So that's great, bro. They just won the National
1:55:06
Championship this year. Beat Iowa, Western But yeah.
1:55:12
So I'm gonna go along those lines though.
1:55:14
So when you having what you have like, how do you and your group
1:55:20
stay on top of that and read between the lines to make sure,
1:55:23
obviously you put not only your company but your student athlete
1:55:28
in the right situation to where nothing comes back.
1:55:30
Because, you know, they're always loopholes there's always
1:55:33
the fine print, but as it's come and, you know, I'm learning with
1:55:36
this as well. And, and seeing all my son,
1:55:40
Canon can't do and and what terms are, and obviously, Junior
1:55:43
College a little bit different but they're a division.
1:55:45
One junior college. So it's kind of in the same way.
1:55:48
Yeah, yeah. I understand because my um, But
1:55:53
of family friend of mine is going, he just left high school
1:55:56
and he's going to a JC for one year and doing that baseball
1:56:00
route. So um but to ask you a question
1:56:03
it's just being in open communication with the
1:56:05
compliance of the schools and the blinking, on the name of The
1:56:16
nio Departments of the school. I forget the collective.
1:56:19
Sorry like collectives that's that, CTE kicking in.
1:56:23
But yeah, just being over communication with them, just
1:56:29
trying to stay up on a compliance department, and when
1:56:32
you are in those negotiations, making sure that you have
1:56:34
everything on the table and laid out before you signing anything
1:56:38
before, you're in a green or anything.
1:56:40
That's very important because you can't backtrack.
1:56:44
And you see what's happening. Sometimes these kids aren't
1:56:46
getting paid because you know they're signing these deals
1:56:50
without having lawyers looking at them or without having a team
1:56:52
look at them that really knows the the front and back in of
1:56:56
what they're getting into. We are talking to former 8 year
1:56:59
NFL, safety, TJ Ward play for the Browns, the Broncos and the
1:57:02
fucking years TJ. When you look at the safety
1:57:05
position, you've been looking at the linebacker position and the
1:57:09
running back position, three positions that are not really
1:57:12
respected the way they should be in the NFL.
1:57:14
You look at the money and where it's divided into when it comes
1:57:18
to the offensive, lineman the tackles the corners, the number
1:57:22
one Corners, the quarterbacks you look at these three
1:57:25
positions and I just think they're just not treated with
1:57:29
the respect that they deserve. Why do you think the NFL GMS and
1:57:34
executive don't respect those positions as much as to the
1:57:37
other positions I just mentioned That's a good question.
1:57:42
I think it's more of the direction of where the game is
1:57:46
going, right. When the game was really
1:57:49
physical and you were allowed to, you know, hid and do all
1:57:52
those things in the linebackers were hiding.
1:57:54
Everybody's running back was highlighted like the days of,
1:57:58
you know, early man and where you had priest Holmes, Jamal
1:58:03
Lewis like early 2000s, like the running back was him because the
1:58:07
game was so physical, the linebackers were, they was where
1:58:10
the guys the DNS, they're still the guys cuz they get that to
1:58:13
the quarterback, but with it being such a Passing League now
1:58:16
and less physical, then, you know, who was getting the baller
1:58:19
receivers, who has to stop the past the corners.
1:58:21
So they're highlighted, you know, it's like the NBA almost
1:58:25
going to more that European less physical style, everything is
1:58:28
less physical, don't ask me why, but it is and That's what
1:58:33
they're catering to and that's what they're marketing, our
1:58:36
executive producer wants us to ask you this.
1:58:38
Question. So I'm going to ask if there's
1:58:44
three quart. Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning
1:58:47
and Philip Rivers, all three of them.
1:58:50
I think are Hall of Famers when you look at what Philip Rivers
1:58:53
did. What I think all three, I think
1:58:57
all three of them, a hall of famers, statistics, everything,
1:59:00
everything they've done in the NFL and where they came from.
1:59:03
And I know, a lot of people look at Philip Rivers.
1:59:05
Well, he never want to Championship Dan Marino, never
1:59:07
want to Championship. There are a lot of quarterbacks
1:59:09
that never want to Championship. Obviously the positions that
1:59:12
they were in and Philip Rivers is best chance to win a Super
1:59:15
Bowl. He was playing on a torn ACL.
1:59:17
So, and it was pretty amazing what he did.
1:59:20
I've argued this, I had Steve White on this show and Steve
1:59:25
White's told me Philip Rivers is not a whole of Famer and I went
1:59:28
at him and then he says, Matthew Stafford is a, is a better
1:59:32
player to argue to go to the Hall of Fame.
1:59:34
And I said, how could you say that when you look at Philip
1:59:36
Rivers number is and compared to Matthew Stafford.
1:59:39
It's not even comparable, okay? Your thoughts to these three
1:59:42
quarterbacks in order, who do you think?
1:59:45
Goes to the Hall of Fame first, second, and third.
1:59:48
And why? I don't think any of them go and
1:59:52
I don't think any of them deserve to go, keep it a book,
1:59:55
but I say if anyone wants to go, we go be Eli first.
2:00:00
Well probably he just has, the more he has the he has the
2:00:03
brand, he has the name, he has the most the Super Bowls New
2:00:07
York. He probably be the first to go
2:00:11
then. It'd be big being in Philly
2:00:14
blast, interesting? Very interesting.
2:00:17
I was asked, who he just way to go TJ, that was get them.
2:00:25
All right answer, get what I'm just.
2:00:27
That's, yeah that I mean what do you guys think?
2:00:30
I think, I just think that Eli is closer.
2:00:35
He may not have the numbers of just being or or Rivers.
2:00:42
Either this is coming back Rivers.
2:00:44
But you guys beat the man and the chicks, the chips and the
2:00:50
name that's like, damn, you know, it takes a team to win.
2:00:53
It is every quarterback gets a Super Bowl at VP.
2:00:57
Stop this crap. True!
2:00:58
Yes, it most of the time that's because the first time Ben
2:01:03
Roethlisberger went to the Super Bowl, he was practically a
2:01:06
rookie. And I were just like that.
2:01:07
Yes, it's so, I don't want to hear that.
2:01:09
It, when you look at a team, football's, the Ultimate Team
2:01:12
game. I am just looking at that.
2:01:14
I look like I don't feel just because you're one of the best
2:01:19
quarterbacks in your organization that you deserve to
2:01:21
go to the Hall of Fame. For San Diego.
2:01:26
Did you know? But not very long.
2:01:28
Yeah, but he's still. He's still play with the same.
2:01:31
Drew, everyone knows. He was drafted by San Diego.
2:01:35
He expected and got a Super Bowl.
2:01:39
I teach you. Stop it.
2:01:43
Hold on, hold on, hold on. When you look at Peyton Manning
2:01:49
in that run. Do you gonna tell me right now?
2:01:51
Payton Manning. Peyton Manning is the reason why
2:01:54
you guys won that Super Bowl. I'm not saying he's a big part
2:01:59
of why we won. I'll show you that here.
2:02:01
Get out of here anyway, you we all know PM was dealing with a
2:02:06
lot of stuff that you let me tell you at the end of them
2:02:09
games, when we need to do points, we was getting them
2:02:12
points. Now, the rest of the game, I
2:02:15
don't know what you here. First of all, in the starting of
2:02:21
the Season, really got you into player.
2:02:22
Playoffs was Hotwire, if you remember that, I know you do.
2:02:25
And then oh, that's the beauty of our Championship like People
2:02:34
always say, oh, such a says, God heard that we would have won.
2:02:37
We Shoulda Coulda? Did this because they got hurt.
2:02:39
Every we did get hurt. Everybody got hurt, I almost
2:02:42
didn't even play in the Super Bowl.
2:02:43
I got kicked out stool, got her in the FC championship game.
2:02:46
That's why if you look at it grunt went crazy towards the end
2:02:50
because we had we was down in no safeties.
2:02:52
We had like the bottom of our bench on defense so that's why
2:02:56
that wind is even better than people think.
2:02:58
Like everybody got hurt like Sly was hurt.
2:03:01
The detangle man. Everybody was hurt.
2:03:03
He's a great guy. Yeah, he's been on a show.
2:03:09
He's like I heard on the same play versus the Patriots.
2:03:12
Yeah, he actually mentioned that he actually brought up the the
2:03:15
injury that he had with you when he when you guys ran into each
2:03:18
other. So he didn't mention I was I
2:03:21
remember that but I just telling you going back to that and the
2:03:25
argument over there, you say well you know they wanted to
2:03:28
chip. They wanted a chip.
2:03:29
The reason why you won that Championship was born, and that
2:03:34
defensive line, that defensive line was unbelievable.
2:03:37
Unbelievable unbelievable. And the next year, you guys got
2:03:41
another friend of our show. Adam goats at the Super Bowl go,
2:03:44
this is oh yeah, big Adam, big God, God's great, dude.
2:03:48
Yes, such a nice guy, man. Really but you know what?
2:03:53
I mean, who doesn't win with a good defense?
2:03:55
You got to have a good defense to win the Super Bowl.
2:03:57
Like you see the Eagles, that's why they want.
2:04:00
They wouldn't like hurts was out there airing the ball out.
2:04:02
I had defense was crazy. I mean, you got at least have a
2:04:06
good pass rush for sure. Time for sure.
2:04:10
You gotta always win if you got good D.
2:04:12
Yeah, every way well not even on the field okay I always ask this
2:04:17
cuz I'm an offensive and defensive line High School coach
2:04:19
up by West Point area in New York.
2:04:21
And I always I always say like I want to have the D line get
2:04:25
there because then my Corners don't have to cover for more
2:04:28
than a couple of seconds and then they look good and they get
2:04:32
to make the turnovers and then we went you can't have a good
2:04:35
secondary. If you don't have at least one
2:04:37
guy getting home that has to speed up that clock for that
2:04:40
quarterback, man. Real tough always likes to talk
2:04:45
about Philip Rivers completion percentage in this argument, and
2:04:48
I always like, what is completion percentage?
2:04:51
Because you like to Dink and Dunkel.
2:04:52
I'm in that gate, man. Like that was my biggest thing
2:04:57
with this Chargers, like him and Gates, which is sit there and do
2:05:01
this. And, you know, Gates is a wide
2:05:03
body Hall of Famer. I couldn't get around them.
2:05:05
He was so wide, but like down the field, you know, it was
2:05:09
better, I could cut, but like, the short little third and I was
2:05:12
doing it third and fourth, they're going to run a pivot and
2:05:15
just And I couldn't get around them, but I just think when we
2:05:19
played him at least Phillips receptions like we knew he was
2:05:22
getting coming home with some. You don't like fell.
2:05:25
All right, that's fine. It's okay.
2:05:27
No, we don't like you. I know.
2:05:29
I know like I know it and why I wanted these days actually Love
2:05:36
Field because Phil talk shit. Yeah.
2:05:38
And as a defensive player you love that from like quarterback
2:05:41
that's all the time him and Chris Harris they would be yeah
2:05:46
back and forth all day. They like they had like a four
2:05:49
year Romance. Now the real question.
2:05:53
Did Philip Rivers talk talk romance?
2:05:56
It's a bromance, Rivers talk more shit to the refs or the
2:06:00
player. That's the real question.
2:06:02
Here, man. That's what that is a good
2:06:05
question. I don't know.
2:06:06
I don't know. It seems like he was always
2:06:09
keyed at the end of the game. Oh, Same as Eli seemed to make
2:06:14
all the big plays stop with the giant crap.
2:06:17
This is the, what, why do we talk about the Giants all the
2:06:20
time. This, we're talking to a
2:06:22
broader, we're just all right. And where why we talking this is
2:06:28
this conversation and all of a sudden sways to the Giants and
2:06:31
Eli Manning agree with you. I don't, listen, he doesn't like
2:06:35
Philip Rivers. That's fine.
2:06:36
That's great. Most people don't that.
2:06:39
Don't people. Most people don't.
2:06:40
It's not about like, yeah, I don't think most people agree
2:06:44
with you on that. That's fine.
2:06:46
And that's why, that's why I got my own opinion.
2:06:49
And that's why I think Philip Rivers out of all three of them
2:06:51
is the better quarterback. You think he was always talking
2:06:54
shit. I just say, you didn't ask me,
2:06:56
who was a better quarterback? You actually who I think was
2:06:58
going to the hole? No, I said no, I I know people
2:07:01
look at that because but if it was up to me and I would I would
2:07:05
look at all three quarterbacks in my my thought on who, the
2:07:08
better quarterback. I I would see Philip Rivers was
2:07:11
not one Ben Roethlisberger was number.
2:07:13
You Eli Manning was number three, they're going to look at
2:07:15
Eli Manning because he won the two chips.
2:07:17
He won the two MVPs, he's a Manning, they're gonna look at
2:07:21
that. Like you were saying it's all
2:07:22
about the name and that's why man, Eli.
2:07:25
Probably go to the Hall of Fame before.
2:07:27
Both of these guys, I think all three of them are going to Hall
2:07:30
of Fame. They very, very much well
2:07:32
deserved and and we just mentioned Tom.
2:07:34
Brady, Peyton, Manning Drew Brees Ben Roethlisberger, Philip
2:07:38
Rivers, Eli Manning. You're talking about six of the
2:07:41
greatest quarterbacks of all time and you played against all
2:07:45
of them. Yeah man, tough pigs.
2:07:47
You had to have a really good recruiter for your defense.
2:07:52
Maybe this guy showed up at you guys how to help build that
2:07:55
defense, man. That's, that's a real one.
2:08:00
Was it wearing any of that outfit this special?
2:08:06
Hey TJ his sister terrible son. That's a real fit too.
2:08:16
Like we're this is the other ones are but the blue blazer red
2:08:20
shirt and camo pants that is for Real.
2:08:23
Ah, you in between you bought a go on vacation at the work.
2:08:30
We love about kicking with the bullet.
2:08:34
We love nothing. Nothing is just a, dude.
2:08:37
He wears this blue blazer everywhere.
2:08:39
He goes, when he goes to these events and I always tell him, I
2:08:42
always tell him, why don't you just get every single athlete to
2:08:45
sign the blue blazer until it completely covered with
2:08:48
autograph and then frame it. This guy will not do it every
2:08:51
single event, everybody knows him.
2:08:53
I call him the blue blazer because he wears that blue
2:08:56
blazer, no matter where he goes. It is the funniest thing you
2:09:01
gotta have a trade mark. Definitely breaking.
2:09:06
That's what you call Brandon recognition right.
2:09:09
There is world class leash. Oh, we got we've got a lot of
2:09:16
different classes of here already.
2:09:17
I'm putting you on a leash now. Breaking news goody has no woody
2:09:22
bagel. I am a legend.
2:09:24
Yum, Yum. I want to hit it.
2:09:27
I think he is bigger than yours. Blow my back out Java, takes it
2:09:33
up the ass. My rear end was burning.
2:09:36
Scoops. Sits on the shiter, that's
2:09:38
liquor Duty. Carl one.
2:09:47
Which plays with himself fans? What is that?
2:09:57
A app know, it's our sample. We got a soundboard, it's great.
2:10:01
I use it for the I do it. One of those.
2:10:04
Would you get there from? Wow, you got to get an iPad and
2:10:07
then you download an app and you have to pay for the app.
2:10:10
And, and then you put, oh yeah, everything is an app buddy and
2:10:24
it's a soundboard app, that's what it is.
2:10:26
I listen, it's good for both, it's good for Speedy.
2:10:31
Hey, I need one too, so I gotta hook you up, man.
2:10:34
Well, I think it said you always drops.
2:10:36
He made of all right. Go, we could go to Java.
2:10:42
These are good. Ready here, Java.
2:10:44
Here we go. I'll let you lick my butt.
2:10:46
I gave up the booty there. I wouldn't piss on him if he was
2:10:50
on fire. Oh, I always gave up the booty.
2:10:55
Oh my god. Wow.
2:10:56
Hold on, hold on. It's in context, though.
2:11:00
TJ when I gave up the game, this makes my pecker hard.
2:11:03
You just made my nipples hard, pulled it out of my ass as long
2:11:06
as she's using dude, wipes and taking care of my two hole.
2:11:08
I'm good. That's what's his name.
2:11:15
What's that baseball show? He's bounding down the baseball
2:11:20
show. Kenny Powers.
2:11:21
We've got. We've got the best show here,
2:11:24
man. Stop, stop.
2:11:25
Bringing other shows, man. Screwed up that.
2:11:28
By the way, Bill Simmons idiots, that's all I'm gonna say now.
2:11:35
That's right. Was, he's the car?
2:11:43
Oh, if you ever get a chance, that's like some of the funniest
2:11:47
bloopers of all time. Is the Will Ferrell Kenny
2:11:49
Powers. He's found.
2:11:51
Oh, bloopers that? That's you just never stop.
2:11:54
Left baseball. Uh, yeah, a little bit.
2:12:01
I'm look a little bit. I'm learning more more, but not
2:12:07
growing up. You know, definitely something
2:12:09
I'm. My son is interested in doing
2:12:12
so. I've got to get the game.
2:12:16
Can't hate the game, right? You can't hit any game as we all
2:12:19
know. But anyways TJ, we love you man.
2:12:22
You gotta come on this show more often, man.
2:12:23
You know, I had a ball honestly, this was cool.
2:12:26
Oh well, we appreciate you, even sitting and hanging out with us
2:12:29
for an hour. I mean, you've been on for an
2:12:31
hour man. And I know you were a little
2:12:33
busy and you popped on but I we really appreciate you just
2:12:37
joining us and giving us the time, buddy.
2:12:40
No doubt, man. Appreciate you having me.
2:12:42
I'll come back on inside. Let me know football season
2:12:45
coming. You'll see me doing a couple
2:12:47
little things so I have a drop for y'all.
2:12:49
Hey post my drop. Well, as a matter of fact, I
2:12:54
want you to do something before you go.
2:12:56
I want you to say you are listening to Jabba and the mouth
2:13:00
say that you are listening. Oh God you gotta say this is TJ
2:13:06
Ward. Okay, you say this is TJ Ward.
2:13:10
You're listening to the best show in America.
2:13:12
Joppa in the mouth. Let's hear it.
2:13:15
Yo, this is TJ Ward. You're listening to the best
2:13:17
show in America. Good job in the mouth.
2:13:19
I love it. We love you.
2:13:21
There you go. Boss man.
2:13:23
Tell the fans how they can find you on social media. yeah, at
2:13:28
boss 43 everything, ex Instagram tiktok Yeah, that's it.
2:13:34
Tick tock. How many tiktok followers you
2:13:36
have? Man, I'm still I'm trying to get
2:13:40
into it for a little bit and I was doing and I kind of backed
2:13:43
off. It's just, it's not my cup of
2:13:45
tea, man. I'm trying.
2:13:46
But all right. Nothing wants to come in for a
2:13:49
little bit. Yes, what's good?
2:13:52
Yo, Man, I'm great. I can't complain.
2:13:56
How are you? Good, thank you for joining the
2:13:59
show, man. This episode.
2:14:01
Hey man. Yeah, for sure.
2:14:05
Well yeah, he's not wearing his blue blazers so we're in good
2:14:08
shape. Oh come on, come on.
2:14:12
Over recruiting trip. I'm actually I'm actually
2:14:24
hosting an event on Monday with one of the biggest Long Island
2:14:28
crews in 25 years pressing Carrie where he's going to make
2:14:31
an announcement, he's going so. Oh yeah.
2:14:34
So it'll be cool to be the first one I've ever been hosting.
2:14:38
So it'll be cool, it'll be cool. So Sweet.
2:14:42
Anyways, TJ, I'm here he is. There's Preston.
2:14:45
Okay, six foot six pounds. I'm not watching it.
2:14:51
I'm going I'm gonna be hosting the event.
2:14:54
So, I don't know, I know but we're at the areca castle the
2:14:58
Eureka castle and Long Island. You want to come Nathan You want
2:15:04
to see the Jersey, man? It's gonna work.
2:15:10
This is gonna work on his field hockey.
2:15:12
Recruiting Hold on. Oh, we gonna find one here.
2:15:20
Breaking news goody as no woody. Breaking news lady.
2:15:30
You go listen, Nathan. We were like conversating about.
2:15:34
What's the craziest thing he would do to a woman?
2:15:36
You know, he told us if they tell him.
2:15:38
Oh my God. Tell him what you told us.
2:15:41
Tell them, tell them what you told us.
2:15:44
Oh, you could just he told us that if he had the opportunity
2:15:51
to take a woman out, he would put a leash on her and take her
2:15:55
for a walk. Oh wow.
2:16:03
Yeah, that's Nathan for you teaching.
2:16:09
You guys, wow. Anyways, TJ, we love you.
2:16:17
Thank you for joining us bud. No problem.
2:16:19
Appreciate you, man. Talk soon, former year NFL,
2:16:24
safety Browns Broncos, Buccaneers 2010 to 2017 the one
2:16:29
and only TJ Ward, thank you Nathan, for hooking us up.
2:16:33
He was great, fantastic. And he gave us a lot of good
2:16:37
takes and now he knows that you're an absolute weirdo.
2:16:40
So, we're good. Come on.
2:16:48
Anybody that knows the weirdo, everybody.
2:16:52
That knows me knows, I'm crazy. And I'm weird, I don't think
2:16:55
it's hidden. We got to bring Goodie and he's
2:16:57
been waiting calmly and carefully.
2:16:58
So what he gotta bring Goodyear. Got, by the way, I just want to
2:17:05
let everybody. I want to let everybody know.
2:17:08
Oh, Nick goody is in Cleveland right now and he is gonna be, he
2:17:13
is gonna be doing the pregame and postgame show for the
2:17:17
Cleveland Guardians on Saturday and he's doing some color.
2:17:21
For the Cleveland Guardians as well Nick, what's up, man?
2:17:24
House Cleveland Hot bro. It was hot.
2:17:32
It's hot. It's like 90 feet 93.
2:17:34
I left Florida. 97. Come up here Cleveland.
2:17:37
It's 93 went and caught the game tail end of the game.
2:17:40
Watch Gosman. Throw I play with him at a
2:17:43
LSU's. Good to see him but took it to
2:17:45
us. Gotta catch up with Kipnis
2:17:48
Kipnis was doing a little pre and post game analysis as well.
2:17:51
He's on his way to Chicago. He's gonna pick up a couple
2:17:53
series there too, so it's good to catch up with kit, missed
2:17:56
Lonnie chisenhall. Not sure if Java play with
2:17:59
Lonnie's on but I'm pretty sure he played with Kipnis, but,
2:18:03
Aside from that, I mean. Caught up with the few few of my
2:18:06
buddies, one of my buddies bought check this out.
2:18:08
It's pretty cool. I can't wait to see this one.
2:18:11
How many not many people know, but Yankees are like all their
2:18:16
stuff is owned by Steiner Sports.
2:18:18
So I never really got a chance to get my Jerseys there so they
2:18:23
sell on eBay and one of my buddies I was up here.
2:18:25
Got I think this is like my Yankees My Yankee Stadium debut
2:18:31
Jersey. It's nice, pretty.
2:18:36
Look at you. Yeah, I wore like I wore like 12
2:18:39
different numbers in New York so this is I had to make sure but
2:18:42
Steiner Sports takes everything so I didn't.
2:18:45
That's from Brandon Steiner, right?
2:18:49
I yeah, I guess I don't know starter Sports, so whoever Yeah,
2:18:54
so you go over there, Nathan. You know, those guys, I know
2:18:57
bread. I know Brandon's Diner.
2:19:00
I'm good friends with the he sold it.
2:19:05
I know I'm telling you. Yeah, he doesn't own Steiner.
2:19:09
Yeah, yeah, anyways from Stars Sports.
2:19:12
So you got it. Thought it was pretty cool.
2:19:14
Shout out Seth, thank you for that.
2:19:16
I was pretty awesome. Oh, gift and we have this we
2:19:19
have the Cardinals coming in this series.
2:19:21
So I gotta do a little research on the cards where they go up.
2:19:27
Another residents in right now. I just told him to give me a
2:19:30
Marriott. So I collect points but this,
2:19:36
this was either this or like stay at the casino and I think
2:19:41
the casino right spot for me. Although it's you know she's
2:19:45
lazy to walk the half a block right now but Like, literally,
2:19:49
this room is like two stories. I have an upstairs.
2:19:53
It's massive. It's like care of you.
2:19:55
They take care of you. That's what you say yes.
2:19:58
Yeah. All the way up there got
2:20:01
freaking. Wow, look at you, man, you live
2:20:04
in large. I guess people sleep on
2:20:07
Cleveland a little bit. It was great City.
2:20:10
I mean, the people are great like, Went to Barrio had not
2:20:14
barrio in a while so it's good. Yeah, I'll do pre and post
2:20:22
Saturday, I think radio color radio on Sunday.
2:20:26
And then next month, I have three games against the Rockies
2:20:29
and then in August two against Seattle.
2:20:32
Well, where's your media? Media, nothing's faces Frozen.
2:20:42
I gotta take us. That's great.
2:20:46
You're getting radio jobs, before me this is bulshit.
2:20:51
I mean, they kind of they kind of like they asked if I wanted
2:20:56
to do it on Sunday because why not?
2:21:02
Might as well. You guys are probably it's good
2:21:06
that you're here because that means you get to join us on this
2:21:09
segment that we haven't had you on in a while.
2:21:11
Yes, it's really great. And it's cold.
2:21:13
So busy a call to the pet. It's done up.
2:21:16
If you can throw a strike on this pitch it's not gonna be my
2:21:19
John. It feels like jello right, just
2:21:21
get it over the plate I want him to swing.
2:21:22
Last time I did that the guy that hasn't landed yet for a
2:21:26
call to the Penrose. All right, guys, a call to the
2:21:37
pain, Tommy, get the baseball music going in the background
2:21:40
and what we're just gonna start off.
2:21:42
And just, we always cut through something that happened under
2:21:46
recently in baseball or something.
2:21:48
That's just like a general topic that we wouldn't be able to get
2:21:52
an answer from an inside source without asking, two of our
2:21:55
baseball athletes on the, on the show, both Nick Kody and Java
2:22:00
Chamberlain guys. Did you see that O'Neil Cruz?
2:22:05
Play the other day that got him, basically, benched.
2:22:10
Well, not hustling down the line.
2:22:12
Well, there's a little bit more than that.
2:22:13
He forgot how many outs there were and sort of 201, I believe,
2:22:19
right now after a real good start to the season, he's
2:22:22
leading off that team. We've talked about a story about
2:22:26
the Pirates. Every other week this year,
2:22:28
either the front office is screwed up.
2:22:30
The ownership is screwed up or just the team itself.
2:22:33
Can't put a good thing on the field.
2:22:34
It's, it's pretty wild. We're gonna talk a little bit
2:22:37
about skins, a little later in the show, but for now, I wanted
2:22:41
to see what you guys had to say about this O'Neill crew
2:22:44
situation and players. Generally, when they lose focus
2:22:46
on the field. How is that treated in the
2:22:48
clubhouse? Have you seen it?
2:22:49
Go right? Go wrong and just generally,
2:22:52
your general thoughts on this incident.
2:22:54
Let's start it off with the big man on top Mr. Java.
2:22:58
But Chamberlain. Um, yeah, you we've all seen it.
2:23:02
I think this is one of the ones that I think have accumulated
2:23:06
and it's, it's gotten worse because There's a bunch of
2:23:10
highlights. It's happened before, like, then
2:23:13
a ball gets passed him. He doesn't hustle after it.
2:23:16
He doesn't run through the bag, like he sees, it's gonna be a
2:23:19
double play. He doesn't, that's not finish
2:23:21
out it. So I don't think this is one
2:23:23
certain play. I don't think it is.
2:23:25
I think it's an accumulation, of a bunch of things.
2:23:27
And so finally, you just got to be like, hey, you know what?
2:23:31
Figure it out or if you don't, but you're going to sit right
2:23:34
here and that's what they did. And I think everybody handles it
2:23:38
different. I think that team is completely
2:23:39
different because in situations and good, you can probably talk
2:23:42
about this as well. where, It usually, when we see it as
2:23:47
players, we handle it ourselves. And and that more times than not
2:23:52
works. Because there are times where
2:23:55
you need to embarrass somebody be like this, this isn't it.
2:23:58
Like, I don't care. There's no excuse for that.
2:24:01
I would rather have a guy lay out and miss it.
2:24:04
Then pull up lane and be like, hey, we saw with PCA with the
2:24:09
Cubs. He forgot how the upstairs it
2:24:12
happened. It's a brain fart.
2:24:14
Yeah, but when it can continually happens, like what
2:24:17
we've seen with him, Then it then it becomes a problem.
2:24:21
We saw Larry Walker, throw the ball, and give the ball away,
2:24:24
and he's like, oh, there's only two outs, you know, it happens,
2:24:27
there are things that happen like that, but I think when it
2:24:30
comes down to it usually and they're, they're, that's where
2:24:34
catch has to take over. I think, honestly, because he's
2:24:37
the only one that can say anything at that point.
2:24:40
Maybe Adam Frazier, too. He's been around for quite I
2:24:45
mean, physical errors are going to happen.
2:24:47
I don't think any, you know, you might get pissed off, especially
2:24:50
as a player. If you're pitching in a physical
2:24:52
error happen but you know the guys are not out there trying to
2:24:54
make errors mental mistakes. Those are more.
2:24:57
The ones that like can't happen. They're going to happen
2:25:00
throughout the course of the Season, you play every single
2:25:02
day. Sometimes you wake up on the
2:25:05
road, you know, even know what city you're in.
2:25:06
That happened to me multiple times you wake up and you're in
2:25:09
Detroit and you feel like you're like I'm in Detroit.
2:25:11
I thought I was, I thought I was back home, you know?
2:25:13
And so I get it. Guys are tired.
2:25:16
We're getting to the Midway part of the Season, we're looking for
2:25:19
the All-Star break. We're looking for a little blow
2:25:21
here but if it continually happens you know, the obviously
2:25:25
something has to be done and By sitting O'Neil Cruz or taking
2:25:28
O'Neil Cruz out. That game is probably the right
2:25:31
decision. Kind of just like, hey, you
2:25:33
know, this is a kind of saying a message, not just to him, but to
2:25:36
the rest of the team, like, let's listen. we have a standard
2:25:39
here and you're not meeting that standard and I don't think it
2:25:44
was bad at all, hopefully, it's a wake up call for him and and
2:25:47
we get them back on the right track.
2:25:49
And as as job is the manager deals with it and coaching come
2:25:54
in and put them, you know, put his hand around them and not
2:25:56
really in the team in front of the team, but maybe taking the
2:25:59
dinner and see what's going on. We're humans too.
2:26:02
Listen, we're humans too. You don't have perfect days at
2:26:05
work. Nobody has perfect.
2:26:06
Nobody's 100 for 100 in perfect, you know, being perfect at work.
2:26:10
It happens. So, it happens in baseball and
2:26:12
you can see it, it's magnified and it's bad.
2:26:15
So, and of course, the fans, get on it with people bedding and
2:26:19
all that. It's a big deal.
2:26:20
So yeah. It's, it's part of its part of
2:26:24
it. You know, I I had to just think
2:26:28
about our our hostel Marks here for a second and his hockey
2:26:31
career and what he would do, as a leader on his team, if someone
2:26:36
wasn't pulling their weight on his line, how would you have
2:26:39
handled it? So peaceably Arrow.
2:26:42
What I would do is I go to the coach and tell him to sit every
2:26:45
single person on a line and just told me out there.
2:26:48
I'm just kidding. Obviously if if they're not
2:26:55
throwing their weights you actually you go out to you.
2:26:58
If usually if you're on the bad side of the coaches you know,
2:27:02
shit list. He sits on the other side of the
2:27:05
bench and if you're the captain, you're the assistant captain of
2:27:09
the team. You're you're sitting out there
2:27:10
on the bench and you're trying to pump them up and try to get
2:27:12
them moving in the right direction and playing better
2:27:15
better, you know, better hockey or Better Baseball or whatever
2:27:18
you're doing. You're, you have to be a leader.
2:27:21
And if, if they don't like it, then you tell them to sit and
2:27:24
ride the bench and not playing for the rest of the game.
2:27:26
That's what that's what I would do.
2:27:28
So, Well, let's, I wonder how many weeks we go before?
2:27:33
Our next Pirates, story, we only got a really gotta wait a few
2:27:39
minutes. We will talk about them, but
2:27:44
really more for the guy that beat them Mister roeske, but
2:27:48
we'll talk about him on inside baseball.
2:27:50
This has been a call to the pain.
2:27:53
Well, it's been an interesting one.
2:27:55
Thank you to teach a what he's had us.
2:27:56
He's had a really good, you know, good takes when it came to
2:28:02
football and and he's a great person he and I didn't know he
2:28:05
was an agent. That's a pretty cool thing.
2:28:06
I am I've been feeling he owns an agency.
2:28:10
He's not. I'm sorry.
2:28:11
He owns it. Can't legally say that.
2:28:14
Yeah. All right, legally.
2:28:16
You don't even have to be You don't have to have a college
2:28:18
education to be an agent. That's the truth.
2:28:20
You just need to be certain know.
2:28:22
You just you just have to be certified.
2:28:23
Exactly. Past like a bar.
2:28:25
That's like no, you don't have to pass a part.
2:28:27
It's a book and then you take a test.
2:28:28
Yeah, it's just a test. And honestly, I've met a lot of,
2:28:31
I went to the NHL draft quite a few times.
2:28:34
And after that, I would they would a lot of the agents would
2:28:37
go to these bars. And a lot of them, especially
2:28:40
the Ukraine Russian ones that are, you know, agents of a lot
2:28:44
of the Russian players. They don't have any college
2:28:46
education whatsoever. They don't have a law degree or
2:28:50
nothing. They just know how to read.
2:28:51
They know how to read contracts and they took the certification
2:28:54
like job is said that's all they had to do so and they have
2:28:57
lawyers for that. Yeah absolutely ESPN.
2:29:01
Pablo Tori did a report on a potential Collision case with
2:29:06
the NFL a report that was 61 Pages relating to the NFL
2:29:12
limiting, restriction garrette money on contracts.
2:29:16
There was a It by an independent.
2:29:19
Arbitrator named Chris droney back in, January, that there was
2:29:24
no collusion but Tori's report shows that several owners might
2:29:30
have coordinated to reduce guaranteed money.
2:29:32
This case came about in about in the NFL owner, owners ownership
2:29:38
meeting in March, 2022 after the Browns, gave DeShaun Watson, a
2:29:43
fully guaranteed five year. 230 million dollar contract Roni
2:29:47
added that all 32 NFL, owners were encouraged to reduce
2:29:52
guaranteed contracts to Veterans and Roger Goodell was on board
2:29:57
with it, even though he couldn't find any direct collusion.
2:30:01
The NFL player Players Association accused the NFL of
2:30:06
violating section 17 of the CBA, which prohibits teams from
2:30:11
entering, any agreements with the league or other teams when
2:30:17
neg. Shading deals with their
2:30:19
players. They mention Russell, Wilson,
2:30:23
Lamar, Jackson, and Kyler Murray failing to get the guaranteed
2:30:26
money. They wanted on their deals as
2:30:29
evidence of potential collusion and even showed Lamar Jackson's
2:30:34
phone being destroyed as evidence.
2:30:37
John, Mara said it was ridiculous to believe that Jerry
2:30:42
Jones or any other owner would have contract a contacted him
2:30:47
about influencing on the guaranteed money on the big
2:30:52
contracts. That Dak Prescott got.
2:30:54
However some owners, including Robert, Kraft have mentioned,
2:30:58
Roger Goodell has contacted them.
2:31:01
About guaranteed money on big contracts and Speedy was all
2:31:05
over the place with that. But here's the honest truth.
2:31:09
Roger Goodell is a cold-hearted ass and this man has not helped
2:31:14
anybody. When you look at the NFL right
2:31:16
now with the money, they should be giving to people not playing
2:31:20
players that have put their bodies on the line.
2:31:23
The the knee injuries, the headies the trauma that these
2:31:27
guys have gone through over the years with the CTE, and all
2:31:31
these destruction, all things that have happened to these guys
2:31:34
lives and not get full benefits after walking away from the game
2:31:38
and only got 100 million dollars.
2:31:40
Just shows you how bad of a dude.
2:31:42
Roger Goodell is and now you're hearing about collusion of money
2:31:46
and guaranteed money and Lamar Jackson getting screwed or was
2:31:50
that they were trying to screw the marja Jackson.
2:31:52
Just tells you one thing about the NFL and how bad the NFL he
2:31:56
is, when it comes to taking care of their own players.
2:31:58
Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson Kyla, Murray all.
2:32:02
Guys, now Kyle Murray and Russell Wilson are two, not very
2:32:05
nice guys. Kyle Murray who talks in a third
2:32:07
person and Russell. Wilson who we've heard through
2:32:10
many different people. And then we've had guys on our
2:32:13
show that love them. Russell Wilson is an on and off
2:32:16
badass, who likes to screw, you know, movie stars or musicians
2:32:21
like Sierra. The fact is, is the NFL
2:32:23
Association. Is it being accused of violating
2:32:27
section 17 of the CVA? Now, I don't, I don't read
2:32:30
contracts. I don't read the CBA and the
2:32:33
laws in the rules. What I do know is these guys
2:32:37
deserve every bit of the money that they get, these guys are
2:32:40
the best players on the field. These are the guys that are
2:32:43
running. The the Huddle, these are the
2:32:45
guys that are throwing the ball and putting their bodies on the
2:32:48
line. Now the offensive lineman too.
2:32:50
Same thing with the running backs, why aren't the running
2:32:52
backs making the money they deserve?
2:32:53
Say Kwan Barkley, got the biggest contract and NFL history
2:32:57
this off season, why it wasn't because of the NFL, it was
2:33:00
because the Philadelphia Eagles realized this guy helped them
2:33:04
win a Super Bowl. This guy had a chance to break
2:33:06
Eric Dickerson's record. In a season and decided to sit
2:33:11
out the final game. So he could be healthy for the
2:33:13
playoffs. That tells me how great and how
2:33:17
important a team needs to be to win a championship Roger.
2:33:20
Goodell is making 55 or 58 million dollars right now.
2:33:24
He has his own jet him and his family have medical bills paid
2:33:28
for the rest of their lives. If he steps away from the game,
2:33:30
you tell me a football player that has those kind of deals.
2:33:34
You tell me a football player that has their own jet.
2:33:37
Besides the ones that are making hundreds of millions of dollars,
2:33:40
none of them go ask. Boomer, Esiason.
2:33:43
That's a play. I play guy right now.
2:33:45
He didn't make enough money in those times to survive, Joe
2:33:49
Montana going into doing all these autograph signings.
2:33:52
So it keeps data stay afloat or on commercials, or all these
2:33:56
different commercials that he's in, because he needs to make
2:33:59
ends meet because he didn't make it in the time.
2:34:01
And obviously, the game was a completely different game at the
2:34:04
time, these players are making tons and tons of money.
2:34:07
These owners are making tons and tons of money.
2:34:09
These executives are making tons of tons of money.
2:34:12
The fact is the NFL need to figure out what is good and what
2:34:17
is right by what the rules, show it to be.
2:34:21
And I don't think the NFL is following that and I think the
2:34:24
CBA and the NFL and Roger Goodell are a bunch of assholes.
2:34:28
Yeah. And it's screws a lot of these
2:34:29
other players over too when you're have to force certain
2:34:32
contract incentives, in order to get in, obviously you're happy
2:34:35
that these players are making money like the special with the
2:34:37
quarterbacks are getting a lot of money.
2:34:39
But again, if Kyler Murray, let's say the percentage of the
2:34:42
guaranteed contract, he didn't get at the time.
2:34:44
It might have was a little higher until the ownership or
2:34:48
the other ownership swayed it, or Roger Goodell suede it
2:34:51
because they're the Chargers owner.
2:34:52
Spano actually was saying that there was actual contact with
2:34:56
the Cardinals owner before they gave that 260 million dollar
2:34:59
deal. Which at the time I thought was
2:35:00
a lot and I Has been injury-prone since then so it
2:35:03
hasn't worked but maybe the guaranteed money if there was a
2:35:06
similar percentage it would have been less.
2:35:07
So maybe the Cardinals could have paid somebody else a little
2:35:09
more. Maybe they could have kept more
2:35:11
their players from that core that made the couple playoff
2:35:13
appearances instead of having to rebuild and tear everything down
2:35:16
around, Kyler Murray and now they're still trying to work
2:35:19
their way back up. And then Spanos said with
2:35:22
Justin, Herbert's contract, many owners were saying, don't give
2:35:25
them this amount of guarantee money.
2:35:26
Maybe that's why it took a while for Justin Herbert.
2:35:29
He said, write the start of the season in 2023 after Joe Burrows
2:35:32
signed. So you're looking at a case
2:35:34
where maybe that could have been avoided and other players will
2:35:37
have to suffer not being able to get that.
2:35:38
Like you said, running backs linebackers, safeties that don't
2:35:41
get paid as much money are going to be getting that.
2:35:42
Now we've seen better percentages, Christian McCaffrey
2:35:45
on his contract, I think got 17 of the 18 million in guaranteed
2:35:48
on his extension, which is fine, but you want to see more of that
2:35:51
over time, with all these positions, too, and just sucks
2:35:54
the way they're doing. How about JaMarcus Russell?
2:35:56
Remember when he was drafted, how much money did he make?
2:35:59
How long was the NFL in the NFL? How did he deserve the money
2:36:03
they got? And after that, after him and
2:36:05
Sam Bradford? What did the NFL do when it came
2:36:08
to draft and quarterbacks and getting paid the top money,
2:36:11
right? They changed it.
2:36:12
They changed the CBA. Why?
2:36:13
Because they didn't like what these quarterbacks were making
2:36:16
and not providing enough on the football field.
2:36:19
That's the problem right now, the NFL and it's not, I don't, I
2:36:23
don't, I know everybody wants to say it's collusion or this and
2:36:26
that it's not collusion. The NFL is run by the owners who
2:36:29
are, who helps the owners come out with these laws in these.
2:36:33
These, these rules. The one and only Roger get down.
2:36:36
Roger Goodell has his hands dipped in everything.
2:36:38
As long as the owners are happy with Roger, Goodell, Roger
2:36:42
Goodell, doesn't care who he screwing and what he is doing
2:36:45
when it comes down to it. That's what Roger's all about.
2:36:48
And that's why Roger is not like by any player.
2:36:51
Ask anybody that comes on our show.
2:36:53
Ask any ex player that talks about Roger Goodell, what they
2:36:57
really want to say about him. And they don't they don't like
2:36:59
him because he's a piece of garbage.
2:37:01
And he doesn't care about the players.
2:37:03
He cares? Only what the owners.
2:37:05
Tell him to care about. Yeah, I think I think Trevor
2:37:07
Pryce was the only player that was like, kind of neutral on
2:37:09
him. Yeah, you know why?
2:37:10
Because him and Roger gadela Papa right?
2:37:12
Well, the truth understandably. There's a true relationships.
2:37:15
They're gonna have that, but they are, but going back to
2:37:17
like, it's also funny that he actually had some funny things,
2:37:19
sorry travel. But, you know, it's true, he
2:37:21
actually is a funny thing to say about Lamar Jackson's contract
2:37:23
of the time. So what he decided.
2:37:24
But nevertheless, yeah, where let me ask Trevor now, what he
2:37:27
thinks about Lamar Jackson's contract, let's hear he was, he
2:37:30
was more taking, a shots, of the fact that his mom was his agent
2:37:32
or something. Like, he's the best quarterback
2:37:34
NFL. That's what this is about
2:37:36
though. Is that the Dell screwed Lamar
2:37:39
Jackson. He did specifically Lamar
2:37:41
Jackson because the contract, for Deshaun Watson was the last
2:37:45
big contract right before Lamar's.
2:37:47
And because they look, we remember the history of this.
2:37:51
They didn't ever had guaranteed money in the NFL.
2:37:54
Why? Because they didn't want to pay
2:37:56
aging veterans, you know, that, you know, like the Jacoby
2:37:59
Ellsbury of the world, you know, the Yankees.
2:38:01
Had to pay for years, it didn't ever play, you know, the Carl
2:38:04
pavano. We're Pam Robertson.
2:38:06
Cut those guys in football in baseball and and not pay them in
2:38:11
football. You can.
2:38:11
So, what did football do? They had the big signing bonuses
2:38:15
right up front, so you would get The Upfront money to make up for
2:38:18
the fact, you aren't getting the guaranteed money.
2:38:20
Then the idiot Brown's owner, decided to do both and up and
2:38:24
the entire system. So good Dell had to step in and
2:38:28
try to write the ship and bring that guaranteed money back down.
2:38:31
He absolutely colluded. They said he did the arbitrator
2:38:35
said he did. But everyone kind of realized
2:38:38
the Browns were stupid and the kind of should have colluded.
2:38:40
Yes, situation. And fix this situation, it's
2:38:43
still screwed. Lamar Jackson though, that's
2:38:46
what Pablo Tori on Earth that they admitted that he colluded,
2:38:49
and they still didn't punish the NFL anyway.
2:38:52
They allowed the case to go to the NFL, not the NFL pause way
2:38:55
the race that first of all, the NFL and Roger Goodell got away
2:38:59
with Spygate they've gotten away with.
2:39:01
Everything. And then they went after Tom
2:39:03
Brady because it deflate gate and deflategate was absolutely
2:39:06
ridiculous. It was redundant from what Spy
2:39:09
case really screwed the rims, the Rams should have won that
2:39:12
Super Bowl. They should have won that Super
2:39:14
Bowl, but Bill Belichick cheated and there was tape on it and
2:39:17
what did they what? Did Roger Goodell do?
2:39:19
Because he was Robert Kraft's, fisherman, buddy.
2:39:22
He got rid of the tape. He burned the tapes, why nobody
2:39:25
knows and nobody saw it but the NFL and the executives of the
2:39:29
Patriots, what a bunch of bull crap and honest to God.
2:39:33
Truth. Roger Goodell is only there
2:39:35
still is because he's everybody every owner's butt buddy.
2:39:39
He's probably bending over over there on a round table, while
2:39:43
everybody's butt fucking him in the ass.
2:39:44
That's the truth. And I will say the word because
2:39:47
it's true. Roger Goodell bends over and he
2:39:50
gets it in the air by every one of those owners.
2:39:53
Every one of those owners because in the end, as long as
2:39:56
he's making 58 million dollars and him in his boys and his
2:40:00
family and his wife. Has lifetime of insurance, and
2:40:04
his own goddamn jet. He will do whatever it takes,
2:40:07
including let Jerry Jones stick in eight ball up his ass, okay?
2:40:11
It's absolutely ridiculous. And honestly, I will stick up
2:40:16
for the NFL players, I think Roger Goodell is a piece of
2:40:20
garbage. He should be absolutely thrown
2:40:23
to the wall, strobe to the dogs. How about, why don't we reach
2:40:26
out to Michael Vick and let him have his Slickers and slacks on
2:40:29
that piece of garbage? Yeah, that went off the rails.
2:40:32
It's even getting the point where we haven't seen a lot of
2:40:35
these owners like really challenged him to the same
2:40:37
level. Since we talked about a few
2:40:39
weeks ago, the late Jim Murphy, who did have a couple things to
2:40:41
say about cadell later in his later, in his career?
2:40:44
And now, you're even the only one that was on his right?
2:40:47
And now you're seeing, but even you're seeing now in this
2:40:49
instance, some of the other older School owners turning on
2:40:52
him to probably besides Jerry Jones, but John Mara did Robert
2:40:55
Kraft did like, you're saying, they had a good relationship
2:40:57
with the past, but I don't even robbed a craft is big.
2:40:59
Oh, we were negotiating deals the Patriots and that 2021 off
2:41:02
season when they spent a lot of money and they were saying, oh,
2:41:05
don't give him this much Gary, let me ask you a question.
2:41:07
Let me ask you an honest question.
2:41:08
Jim. Ersay that story came out about
2:41:11
the Viking ends and all that other stuff.
2:41:13
When did it come out? When did The Story come out when
2:41:16
he was a drug addict and it just came out of nowhere?
2:41:20
Yeah. And it popped it was when he
2:41:22
said what when he said? What when he attacked Roger
2:41:26
Goodell and the NFL it was weeks before that story came out that
2:41:32
this Jim Irish say was popping pills and doing all the the
2:41:36
garbage that he was doing. Why do you how do you think that
2:41:39
came out? It wasn't, it wasn't executed,
2:41:41
it wasn't a team. This guy's the owner, nobody was
2:41:43
throwing them onto the bus. Of course, it was the NFL, it
2:41:45
was Roger Goodell because Roger, get down screwed one one Chucky.
2:41:50
Well, what's going on right now with Chucky right now?
2:41:53
He can't get a job in college. He can't get a job in the NFL.
2:41:57
Why do you think Chucky can't get a job?
2:42:00
Because Roger, Goodell and Schneider through this man,
2:42:04
under the bus while 50 other Executives and coaches were on
2:42:09
that email and it never came out, it never came out still,
2:42:13
has to come out and they Chucky to keep his mouth shut.
2:42:16
When the truth really is Roger Goodell through Chucky to the
2:42:21
Wolves because Chucky was the one that stood up to Roger
2:42:24
freaking Goodell Chucky lost his job with the Raiders chunky.
2:42:28
Couldn't even get a job right now at College.
2:42:30
He's coaching high school ball. Okay.
2:42:32
It's absolutely pathetic. Roger Goodell is a piece of
2:42:36
freaking crap. That's what he is.
2:42:38
And I will say it proudly and I don't give a crap.
2:42:41
If anybody in the NFL don't like it.
2:42:43
He's a piece of crap and that's the way he should be treated.
2:42:46
He should be treated like every single player.
2:42:48
He's treated like garbage over the years.
2:42:51
All those people, all those kids that have CTE have brain, trauma
2:42:55
knee problems, Karen, help them, medical problems.
2:42:58
All these players that have been on this show that have told us
2:43:01
the NFL hasn't been behind them. After all those years that
2:43:05
giving their bodies on the line and that is because of Roger
2:43:08
freaking cadell 100 million dollars.
2:43:10
You're gonna pay the players that have given their bodies put
2:43:13
their bodies on the line for For 50 years, 100 million dollars
2:43:17
when you're making 58 million dollars a year.
2:43:20
Shame on you, Roger Goodell shame on the NFL.
2:43:23
It's a piece of shit. That's what it is.
2:43:26
The NFL is an organization, burning a hole in every single
2:43:31
sponsorship to take. Take take, take take, take, take
2:43:34
take as they have been doing for over 30, freaking years.
2:43:38
And I have my thoughts to the NFL because I know what the NFL
2:43:42
did to me when I went to the Super Bowl in Miami.
2:43:45
I know what they did. When I had my I had the, I had
2:43:49
everything. I was ready with credentials and
2:43:51
I go up to the table and they tell me.
2:43:53
Oh, we lost your credentials. I don't know.
2:43:55
I don't know what happened to it.
2:43:57
I know what happened to it. Roger Goodell and the stupid
2:44:00
Executives that don't know nothing and no, don't really
2:44:03
want the truth coming out. Well, guess what?
2:44:05
I will spit it. I will shake it.
2:44:07
And, you know, every single one of those owners will be sticking
2:44:11
it to Mr. Goodell every single time there are around That
2:44:15
stupid ugly Round Table, was it Robert turbin.
2:44:18
When he had him on the show that said his insurance.
2:44:20
Another one was literally expiring the day after we had
2:44:24
him on the show. Absolutely.
2:44:25
It was bad, it's bad. The worst part is too.
2:44:30
The better, the NFL does, the more money gadel made its Rich
2:44:36
crazy. That's that's why he has the job
2:44:38
for so long though, right? He's made the owners a buttload
2:44:42
of money. Like you keep paying that guy to
2:44:45
do it. If you keeps making you money,
2:44:46
at that, that's just an investment for these owners.
2:44:49
I mean, he seems like a very, I mean the fakest smile you've
2:44:53
ever seen like a politician. I mean this guy's a politician
2:44:57
for the NFL. That's what he is.
2:44:59
I'm sorry to curse the way I am on this show.
2:45:01
More than a commissioner though, right?
2:45:04
He's a politician him and Robin freed.
2:45:07
The two worst Commissioners, and Adam Silver's, not even a
2:45:10
commissioner. That's the lja LeBron.
2:45:12
James is the commissioner and and Adam Silver's is puppet.
2:45:16
He's his ugly Dumbo puppet over there.
2:45:20
The only commissioner right now, a professional sports that
2:45:22
really stands out to know what he's doing.
2:45:24
It's crazy to say, is the one that gets booed every time he
2:45:27
goes off and he announces his, whoa!
2:45:30
Welcome to the NHL draft Gary freaking Batman.
2:45:32
He's the only one that goes out there and does the right thing
2:45:36
for their organization. Everyone of the other idiot's,
2:45:39
they're all for themselves in the owners, what a piece of
2:45:42
garbage. I'm done with this.
2:45:43
Please, let's move on. I am, I'm done.
2:45:45
I am so angry at all these. You had to bring this story up.
2:45:50
I can't stand. Roger Goodell, I can't stand the
2:45:52
way. The NFL treats, the players.
2:45:54
We've had them on the show. I've stood behind the flares and
2:45:57
I will continue. I don't care if the NFL don't
2:45:58
like it, screw them. They don't have to listen to it
2:46:01
but they know I'm telling the truth.
2:46:03
I'm not hot and we get a blood pressure ticker that we put on
2:46:06
here. Check it out.
2:46:08
I'll check it out when we go to break.
2:46:10
Screw the NFL. All right, we're good next.
2:46:13
Oh, right. Listen, my phone always pops
2:46:16
out, I'll tell you where another vein pops up, like I can't say
2:46:19
it on live radio. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen,
2:46:21
we call this saying, man, King of the Hill.
2:46:24
Here's the King of the Hill. This Bobby is the Beltline you
2:46:29
never ever hit below that. Not that kind of, King of the
2:46:32
Hill you dumb. This is King of the Hill.
2:46:36
This is our Trivia game, where the king?
2:46:46
Is in charge, and we have to try to throw him.
2:46:49
First off, is the peasant fight, everyone who's not the king
2:46:53
faces each other, in a trivia around and we have decided by
2:46:59
the king. Face off in the joust in the
2:47:02
winter jazz is burning. Probably not if that's going on
2:47:06
but if they if they can make it through without rear end
2:47:09
burning, they will get sit on the sitter.
2:47:12
Boys, the way that's gonna work. I'm not gonna play.
2:47:15
I'm gonna be the host on the side and we are going to get
2:47:19
into the first round right away. It's peasant, fight time, except
2:47:25
in this game, Mr. Zach, our intern has been a king.
2:47:29
When you have been around Ariel and defeated you last time you
2:47:33
were King. So Zach, if you can turn your
2:47:35
camera on you and Errol are cocaine's, which you may say
2:47:40
that's not possible. I am a history teacher.
2:47:42
The the city state of ancient Sparta most definitely had two
2:47:47
kings Mart. Yes that's that same one.
2:47:50
So here we go. You and so Arrow you're going to
2:47:53
decide this round. Who are the two people going to
2:47:56
the Jazz? Zach you'll pick who faces off
2:47:58
against the three of you in a three-way king.
2:48:01
Take on the king round to decide once and for all who's our
2:48:06
leader. All right, here we go.
2:48:09
Boys, round one. As I said before, peasant fight.
2:48:16
This is an NBA draft show. I want you to tell me what year,
2:48:21
NBA draft class is the best of all time.
2:48:27
So here we go. I'm gonna be up here.
2:48:31
Arrow is going to take the king shares Zach, you're going to
2:48:34
hang out, actually know exactly. You stay over here in the co
2:48:36
King slot for now. I'll be in the corner.
2:48:39
We're gonna start this one off with Tommy Scoops.
2:48:42
All right, so I'm gonna go with Pretty pretty easy.
2:48:46
One to go off with the 2003 NBA Draft.
2:48:49
I mean, come on. Now we have LeBron James, we had
2:48:51
Mr. Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, and of course, that
2:48:55
ended up being the big three that we know that happened when
2:48:59
some championships over there in the Miami Heat.
2:49:01
Look, I mean this, this is just such a stellar round.
2:49:04
This is just such a stellar Draft pick on, even have David
2:49:06
West as well. A lot of guys that really came
2:49:09
out of this draft as well. Not even Hall of Famers, wise
2:49:11
whatnot, but 2003 was so Stella on top of that, even great.
2:49:15
The perk on ESPN Kendrick Perkins is up part of this draft
2:49:18
as well, so he sucks. You lose automatically, right?
2:49:22
It's a joke. Anyways, you know, even look,
2:49:28
Walton was on this team as well. He had a Kyle Korver as well for
2:49:35
very long time. 2003 couldn't get much better than that, so
2:49:37
that's what I'm starting off with.
2:49:39
All right. Speedy.
2:49:41
All right. Tough to go against 1984.
2:49:42
When you when you look at Michael Jordan, you look at
2:49:45
Charles Barkley, John Stockton and number one pick Hakeem
2:49:47
Elijah what if only the Blazers didn't take Sam Bowie mate look
2:49:50
a little better but tough to go wrong with that one.
2:49:53
Yeah, that's the one everyone points to Jabba.
2:49:58
I'm gonna go 96. It's hard to.
2:50:03
I mean Kobe filled a 13 is out of high school but I mean the
2:50:08
depth and Steve Nash, I mean you go all the way through the so
2:50:12
Drew. This was in that, by the way.
2:50:16
You had two High School, guys, come out of it.
2:50:18
A lot of guys that were just I mean Hall of Famers.
2:50:24
And I think talent wise early and like arrows said before,
2:50:28
like those first like 20 picks, and it's it's pretty nice.
2:50:32
So I'm gonna have to go that 96 draft.
2:50:36
Now goody this we're gonna do this like a fantasy draft where
2:50:40
you get it gets to the last person and then they pick the
2:50:43
last pick of the first round in the first pick of the second
2:50:45
round. So go to you got two that tell
2:50:48
us. Well.
2:50:52
I mean, 1984 draft, there had had one.
2:50:59
Oh what's, what last? How could you go against Michael
2:51:04
Jordan? He's already that drafts already
2:51:07
been supposed to pick another drop across.
2:51:09
Yeah, different one that hasn't got yet.
2:51:11
I don't know, 2025 drafts, I took the whole Duke Squad.
2:51:14
This guy came came with the number one, pick Cooper Flagg.
2:51:18
He's supposed to be the best player on Earth ever.
2:51:21
Played, pick up a basketball. So 2025 is looking pretty
2:51:25
stellar. Hopefully, we'll get in there.
2:51:27
Do their job, they're all young. So we know they got a lot of
2:51:29
upside. Upside the 2025 draft, we're
2:51:37
looking solid there. So I'm gonna go 2025 since
2:51:39
apparently, this game's rigged, All right, and your second for
2:51:44
the second round of king of hell yeah.
2:51:47
King of the Hill. What's good?
2:51:51
He's gonna pass on giving us second one.
2:51:54
Yes, second year. Oh, bro.
2:51:57
What I got one year. He got everyone goes three times
2:52:04
three times on the same draft. Oh, there's only four of you.
2:52:09
Oh, you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to catch me on the
2:52:12
flip here. I gotta go.
2:52:13
I gotta get back into my chat chat TPC.
2:52:16
That is All right, right. You are there, Nick job.
2:52:25
I'm gonna go 03. Obviously, kind of you did.
2:52:31
I was the first one Tom picked it.
2:52:33
Oh Tommy, you're stupid. All right.
2:52:36
I'll go again here. Came up, 1987 David.
2:52:41
Robertson Scotty Pippin? Reggie Miller, Kevin Johnson,
2:52:44
loaded with foundational players.
2:52:49
See, and contributor. Make Legacy on both offense
2:52:55
defense, absolutely novel. And I'll give you a third one.
2:53:00
Just just to get it out of the way, so I don't have to do this
2:53:03
for me. No, no, that's cheating because
2:53:05
someone might take that. Oh, it's cheating.
2:53:07
But I can't use 84 Michael Jordan.
2:53:09
Like the only job already been taken.
2:53:14
Whatever. Okay.
2:53:19
Freaking perfect. Thank you.
2:53:22
Fake news. All right.
2:53:26
Well I got my next two so let's keep it going.
2:53:27
Good job, I give us one. Oh nine.
2:53:30
Damn, there you go. Obviously some Careers panned
2:53:36
out better than the others and then some ended up being a lot
2:53:39
better than they thought they were.
2:53:41
I mean, you got deep guys and guys that are still playing to
2:53:44
this day at a high level. One of the biggest mouth in
2:53:49
basketball. Obviously Pat, Bev.
2:53:53
But yeah, I just think it was a fun class scares burrow, was in
2:53:56
that dress, a lot of a lot of guys that had okay, careers and
2:54:01
some that we didn't think we have great careers ended up
2:54:04
having great career. So It was a, it was a good class
2:54:07
for me. Hey.
2:54:10
Step. I believe that's the Blake
2:54:11
Griffin draft. Speedy, I'll go 1993.
2:54:17
Chris Webber was the first overall pick that draft Penny
2:54:20
Hardaway was in that same Cassell.
2:54:22
Who you guys talk about all the time?
2:54:22
One of the better players as well, Alan Houston.
2:54:25
Big part of the 90s next teams as well.
2:54:29
Alan Houston's the man. Good call Tommy.
2:54:32
Nobody said two 85 correct. Nobody said 85.
2:54:35
I don't think Owen said oh right. 1985 Patrick Ewing,
2:54:40
Nick's Legend right there. Jamie everyone himself a ring,
2:54:43
but hey, there's also filled with a lot of all stars as well.
2:54:45
Damping McDaniel, Charles Oakley as well even got Chris Mullin
2:54:50
and caramelonline and your last pick of the first
2:55:12
round, Tommy, I'm going to go with The 98 NBA draft.
2:55:18
This one wasn't filled entirely with a lot of stars, but it did
2:55:23
have the most notable one of the best dunkers of all time.
2:55:25
Vince Carter, of course, changed the game for dunking and was
2:55:29
really one of the best dunkers for years at his position.
2:55:31
Dirk Nowitzki, one of the best, European big man if not the best
2:55:35
year in dick, man of all time. And of course, one of the most
2:55:38
clutch players in one of the best Celtics player that made me
2:55:41
throw up in my mouth a little bit.
2:55:42
But, oh, here's well in this draft.
2:55:43
So give me the 98 NBA draft. All right, Speedy, I'll go the
2:55:50
year before 97. Yet Tim Duncan.
2:55:52
Chauncey Billups Keith Van Horn, not a Hall of Famer but pretty
2:55:55
solid, pretty solid player as well.
2:55:56
And Tracy McGrady was not a top 10 pick I believe but was later
2:56:02
in that draft, I think 12 or 13 overall.
2:56:04
So I ended up being a Hall of Famer as well so I'm gonna go
2:56:07
97. Job.
2:56:11
I'm gonna go 99 just because I'm hungry and I want to lose but it
2:56:16
was still a good draft. Oh man, he's now in the front
2:56:19
office yet. Stevie franchise did some stuff.
2:56:21
Wanna one of the Kardashians. I mean, Odom, well he's Derby.
2:56:27
I stole money for like 12 years. You had rip one of the grocery
2:56:32
shooters ever, but was wet was Shawn Marion.
2:56:37
And you had mom you, he was there.
2:56:39
So yeah, I got, he was way and goody to finish the rounds. 1960
2:56:47
Doo, 1960. We had Oscar Robertson number
2:56:53
one. One time MVP.
2:56:54
Triple double King. We had the logo NBA logo, Jerry
2:56:59
east, west coast, 14 time, all star Lenny.
2:57:04
Wilkinson's Hall of Fame as both the player and a coach doesn't
2:57:08
get any better than that. Sam Satchel standards 8 time
2:57:13
champion. I mean, all-time great.
2:57:17
That's championships. They changed, they changed the
2:57:21
guard for the 60s NBA area. Jerry West.
2:57:26
What a legend without him. We wouldn't even have the NBA
2:57:30
logo. So I mean, how could you not you
2:57:33
guys on the 60s Drive? Crazy.
2:57:36
I can't believe that blew over your head to be.
2:57:38
Honestly you speaking. Oh, that's good.
2:57:48
I will say, I Errol mentioned NBA jammer, my one of my
2:57:52
favorite was the 94 draft is that was the rookies in NBA Jam?
2:57:56
He had to play with Jason kidding Hill.
2:57:58
That was a great draft. Put in a code you could play
2:58:01
with Bill Clinton too. What was the code?
2:58:07
What was the code? Like cigar or something like
2:58:09
that? No, I think it was.
2:58:11
I politics joke. Yahoo, are you emphasis on the
2:58:15
inside Errol? Who are you allowing to move on
2:58:19
to the house? Speedy?
2:58:23
Oh, and you on Zack pick the other one?
2:58:27
God. Zach.
2:58:29
Who do you? Who else do you want?
2:58:30
No. You're gonna take Tommy.
2:58:32
I feel like it's kind of obvious.
2:58:34
So, all right. Fantastic job.
2:58:42
They don't want to get worked over.
2:58:44
That's why you just a great guy, one of the best now entering
2:58:50
problem to The next round, which is the joust.
2:58:55
And in the joust, we have a new category, it's gonna stay
2:58:58
basketball. Here it is.
2:59:02
Best rookie seasons in NBA history.
2:59:07
So I want to know it doesn't have to be a rookie of the year
2:59:10
that maybe they were two really good rookies one year or
2:59:12
something like that but the best rookie Seasons anyone's ever
2:59:16
had. Ever.
2:59:19
I think this is a fun topic. Let's see.
2:59:22
Who can do it. I can't get the hill.
2:59:24
Zach, who do you want to start? I want to hear Tommy Paris.
2:59:30
All right, Tommy. All right, well, it's pretty
2:59:33
simple. It's obviously gonna be Magic
2:59:34
Johnson for my number one right here.
2:59:36
As a rookie on the NBA Championship Finals MVP was, of
2:59:39
course in all star and was doing it really, with an aging sort of
2:59:43
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar really was just such a stellar player, such
2:59:47
a stellar guy, average 18 points per game 7.7 and 7.3 and assists
2:59:53
it really can get better than that.
2:59:55
One of the best blankets of all time.
2:59:56
Give me Magic, Johnson's rookie season.
3:00:00
All right Speedy. Yeah I'm gonna get similar era
3:00:03
and go with Larry Bird on that one coming from a smaller School
3:00:06
in Indiana State inheriting self kind of early on that Celtics
3:00:10
team. In that 1978 NBA draft,
3:00:12
obviously they won the championship a couple years
3:00:14
later, so maybe not the best magic head right away
3:00:17
individually, but still transform himself before the
3:00:20
three-point line. So as one of the better shooters
3:00:22
in the NBA kind of in that ended up that piece Pistol.
3:00:25
Pete, Eric kind of started that George Gervin, some other
3:00:27
shooters that. Larry Birds mentioned himself
3:00:28
very easily that So that's two two names right off the top.
3:00:34
Let's go to Tommy. I'm gonna go with someone like
3:00:38
Speedy. So who cemented himself really
3:00:40
early with the team. I'm gonna go with someone like
3:00:41
Tim Duncan who had a great rookie season.
3:00:44
Tim Duncan was the Rookie of the Year.
3:00:46
Of course, all NBA and all defense for and on All Stars,
3:00:50
well, too, I just as a rookie, of course, didn't make a deep
3:00:53
playoff run had a pretty successful playoff run his
3:00:56
rookie season. I'm pretty sure they got past
3:00:57
the first round and ended up falling.
3:00:59
I don't remember too who in the second but also completely won
3:01:04
the whole thing. The next year they won the NBA
3:01:06
Championship the year, right after.
3:01:07
So like speeded himself really as one of these key pieces as
3:01:11
just the rookie. So give me some Duncan Speedy.
3:01:16
All right, I'm gonna Shack making in his Mark pretty
3:01:18
quickly with the Orlando Magic. Obviously, they lost in the
3:01:21
finals but still instantly dominance.
3:01:23
As a big man coming from LSU was, he was shattering
3:01:26
backboards there and didn't take long for him to do it very
3:01:28
quickly in the NBA, Tommy last one, I'm gonna go with Celtics
3:01:34
Legend of Larry Bird. I don't, oh, you did everything.
3:01:37
Um, I am going to go with you said, I said Shack.
3:01:44
Let me actually do another God for the Spurs.
3:01:48
Let me do Mr. David Robinson. Rookie of the year, all NBA all
3:01:52
defense and an All-Star as well too.
3:01:54
Really submitted himself really early and was wondering the
3:01:58
David Robinson. I do not know you automatically
3:02:00
lose. Oh.
3:02:02
He was, it's where he went to college.
3:02:06
The Admiral know the Admiral. Okay maybe oops on my part but
3:02:11
hey was really great great player to be really you know,
3:02:15
some Arrow. How can we allow in the move on?
3:02:18
He doesn't know somebody that did hasn't played since he was
3:02:21
born. It's an automatic automatic, DQ
3:02:25
whatever Speedy go. Yeah.
3:02:29
All right. With another.
3:02:31
Another guy from That 80's era, so me is an incident impact with
3:02:34
that'd be good with, with dunking impact with leading, a
3:02:38
team that had some good talent around him, but wasn't amazing.
3:02:40
That was Dr. Jay top 10 player of all time.
3:02:43
Another guy that was Electric in that Larry Bird.
3:02:46
I just ran into a bus on the Eastern Conference and a couple
3:02:48
years. But again, one of the only teams
3:02:50
that beat the Lakers or the Celtics in the 80s.
3:02:53
Like he had to rise his Mark with a most Malone was a good
3:02:55
player but didn't really have a great depth around him.
3:02:57
So Dr. Jay had to be one of those electric guys at that
3:02:59
time. I don't know how no one said
3:03:03
Kareem, but I I thought that was pretty good round.
3:03:06
Let's give this one to Zach. Both teams are really good, but
3:03:11
I mean, I feel like fishing are already said that Tommy's
3:03:15
eliminated because they didn't know who the Admiral was.
3:03:17
So I'm gonna speed. All right, so let's get
3:03:22
everybody back in for the final rounds.
3:03:24
We're gonna get. Let's get everyone in and we're
3:03:28
gonna pull up three competitors. The three kings job.
3:03:32
Three Kings Day. Maybe, maybe not.
3:03:35
We'll see. But it's time for the final
3:03:38
rounds and we will decide once and for all, who is the King of
3:03:42
the Hill, here we go. Round three, take on the king
3:03:48
Speedy, you got two kings and knock off.
3:03:51
Here's one of my favorite questions.
3:03:52
I've asked in the show best offensive, move moves, In NBA
3:03:58
history. Now I want you to not just say
3:04:02
the move but also who performed it.
3:04:05
So you can't just say crossover I want to know who's Crossing
3:04:09
All right. It can't be like God, sham God's
3:04:12
crossover. All right.
3:04:14
This is an easy one. All right.
3:04:16
Well, I actually here we go. Yeah, I'll start with, let's
3:04:18
start off with with Mr. Errol. There's so many but you can't
3:04:25
you can't you can't shy away from the one of the greatest
3:04:28
offensive players of all time. Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
3:04:33
As we all know the Skyhook, he redefined this guy hook won
3:04:38
championships won a national championship with it being luau,
3:04:43
Alison Dar. Whatever his last Cinder or
3:04:47
whatever. His fucking name is and then it
3:04:49
changed his name to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and then wins that
3:04:53
wins championships from going a bit drafted by Milwaukee and
3:04:57
then going to the Lakers and winning championships.
3:04:59
I mean, his Skyhook really changed the game of Georgia Bar.
3:05:03
You said Cinder like what was cinder block, Cinder Lou.
3:05:06
Allison's at least we know under the king ship of Errol.
3:05:11
There is definitely free of speed.
3:05:13
So let's move on. King Zach.
3:05:21
So, I'm gonna go with the dream. Shake by Kim, Elijah on, just a
3:05:25
series of pivots Defenders left the days, they don't know where
3:05:28
he's gonna go, what children is gonna shoot over.
3:05:30
So and I mean, a lot of NBA players, nowadays are asking for
3:05:34
a cubes advice, to get better at me.
3:05:37
So I'm gonna go with the dream shake from Hakeem Olajuwon, of
3:05:39
course, all right. Speedy for two For two, I'm
3:05:44
gonna go definitely with a fade away with Dirk Nowitzki.
3:05:47
The one leg, especially on the weak side leg, I would say, is
3:05:50
one of them, just a very difficult job.
3:05:52
We seen Kevin Durant, probably take it to another level with
3:05:54
his shooting but Dirk was kind of the first one to do it.
3:05:57
Like that. I wouldn't say awkwardly, but
3:05:59
I'm conventional shooting motion and maybe we'll get it to work.
3:06:01
So I think that's number one. And I'm going to say, I'll go
3:06:03
with the passing angle this time.
3:06:05
We'll go Magic Johnson, kind of doing it with those.
3:06:06
Those side passes. I don't know.
3:06:08
If you could call no look passes.
3:06:10
I don't know if there's an exact term for it.
3:06:11
I'll say no, look pass. Oh, I don't know what.
3:06:14
Yeah, I don't know what the exact term is but kind of doing
3:06:16
it. What from the side, the way he
3:06:18
did it before. Anyone was really doing a lot of
3:06:20
great point guards doing at that time, but he was really take it
3:06:23
to another level. All right?
3:06:25
Zach So, I'm gonna go with, there's a lot to choose from,
3:06:31
but I think I'm gonna go with ai's crossover.
3:06:33
I mean, obviously the most famous one is him against
3:06:36
Michael. Jordan on the top of the key.
3:06:37
That's just the most famous crossover.
3:06:39
I don't think I've ever seen Michael.
3:06:41
Jordan, got crossed other than that.
3:06:43
I could be wrong. I haven't seen many.
3:06:45
I mean, I've seen a lot of Michael Jordan Clips but like
3:06:47
that's the most famous one that I could see and obviously the
3:06:50
cross over that, he set over time if you want to consider
3:06:52
that across over. So I'm gonna go with Ellen
3:06:55
Iverson and his first calls over All right, so Errol you have the
3:07:00
last pick of this round and first pick of the last round.
3:07:02
So two picks Arrow. Can't believe you guys didn't
3:07:06
mention the greatest basketball player of all time.
3:07:08
Michael, Jordan's fade away you submit.
3:07:10
You mentioned, jerk. The whiskey, where do you think
3:07:12
jerk learned? The Michael Jordan fadeaway,
3:07:15
Michael Jordan, His footwork, his ability to, to do the fade
3:07:20
away anywhere on the basketball court.
3:07:22
We seen him, do it in. We've seen him, do it in the
3:07:24
finals, and get the port, and the Trailblazer at the
3:07:26
three-point line. How do you think Kobe?
3:07:28
Bryant mimicked, Michael Jordan's game by Michael
3:07:32
Jordan's Fade Away jumper, Kobe Bryant.
3:07:34
Redefined it in the the truth, in the early 2000.
3:07:37
But my Michael Jordan's Fade Away jumper Unbelievable,
3:07:41
probably the most deadliest and that's why he was the most
3:07:44
deadliest player in NBA history. I don't care what anybody says.
3:07:48
And your other one Arrow. Well, I mentioned Kobe, but I
3:07:51
said at. So I I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go
3:07:55
with George Gervin, finger roll. He brought the four.
3:07:58
Yes, I'm gonna go with George garvin's finger.
3:08:01
All he brought the finger roll to the NBA.
3:08:03
He redefined the word finger all and he did it in how many he did
3:08:08
it on, how many teams it wasn't just, it wasn't just the team
3:08:12
that drafted him. He was, he played for multiple
3:08:14
NBA teams and he redefined the finger rolls off.
3:08:16
I'm gonna go with George Carlin. All right, Zach.
3:08:22
So, I'm probably gonna go with, at least for me, the most famous
3:08:26
reverse layup of all time, Dr. Jay's Baseline, reverse layup,
3:08:30
underneath the basket, where he just reaches around and scores
3:08:33
their lab. It was actually absolutely
3:08:36
insane. I mean, I see a lot of NBA
3:08:37
players. Do it like Kyrie Irving and all
3:08:39
these other players, but nothing can be the original, so, I'm
3:08:42
gonna go with Dr. Jay's reverse layup for sure.
3:08:44
You know, he wasn't the first person to do that, right?
3:08:49
I did not saying like this. Yeah.
3:08:51
Yeah, the scoop. Yeah, he wasn't the father.
3:08:54
All right, Speedy. Yeah.
3:08:56
That was what I was literally just gonna take that one next.
3:08:58
So I'll go with. I know I said this before, but
3:09:00
I'll go with, I know Shaq, had some like spinning dunks,
3:09:03
tornado, the black tornado. Okay, you know, the name but I
3:09:06
seen him do it. I see what he was younger player
3:09:08
with Orlando especially but then even higher to an Excel with the
3:09:11
Lakers too. So yeah, I definitely inside
3:09:14
game. It's pretty hard to do that.
3:09:17
Very cool. So, we're gonna vote on this.
3:09:20
The one that I didn't hear that, I, I probably would have
3:09:23
included that you don't think about a lot.
3:09:25
One of the most influential moves of all time was managed
3:09:28
Ginobili's Euro Step. I think everybody does that.
3:09:31
Now Advanced a really great James Harden doesn't get away
3:09:34
with travel. The James Harden, step back is
3:09:38
also traveling Mansions because of how it's taken over the game.
3:09:42
But those are those the other two that I was thinking of, I'm
3:09:45
gonna go. I think it's really close
3:09:47
between Errol and Zach. My rear end is burning better
3:09:51
choice, is not a fan of the dark one.
3:09:54
I do like, magic. Know, look past though.
3:09:56
I'm gonna go with Errol just because I don't think you can go
3:10:00
doctor the first two that he said, even with the dream shake,
3:10:03
the Skyhook was literally Unstoppable.
3:10:06
And Jordan was literally Unstoppable, and and the Iceman
3:10:10
finger roll. Is that iconic move?
3:10:12
So I'm gonna go with arrow. Yeah, I'm Tommy this fish.
3:10:15
You couldn't set it any better you out of Now.
3:10:17
Okay Roger Goodell. Let's see, ya.
3:10:21
Make the owners happy but illusion the two.
3:10:25
Will you let me see illusion? Um anyways, basically, um the
3:10:30
fact is, is of Kareem and Michael Jordan, the two, most
3:10:34
highest scores. I've got two and three, of
3:10:36
course. LeBron, of course, took this
3:10:37
title away, but at two and three, the highest score is
3:10:40
like, nobody. Of course, was putting more
3:10:41
points up on the board. I do really like, of course, X
3:10:44
pics. You know, Dr. J.
3:10:45
AI is crossover. Some of the best that we've ever
3:10:48
seen, but just considering how many points that these two guys
3:10:51
offensively put on the board, minus about how of course, great
3:10:55
that they were. But with these Unstoppable
3:10:57
moves, I have to say. It's got to be, he's got to be
3:10:59
Arrow me for this one. And a goodie, it's already
3:11:04
clinched for Errol, but what's your vote?
3:11:09
All right, we don't even need to count the vote, guys, tonight's
3:11:12
winner and retaking his crown officially.
3:11:16
Now, King Arrow marks. All right.
3:11:20
I want to do jazz act. Do you know who the first person
3:11:24
to do that dunk? First layer, fourth doctor.
3:11:29
I'm gonna guess because there's drills about it.
3:11:32
Mike, and is it? What's his first name?
3:11:35
I don't like him. Yes, George Michael.
3:11:37
Because there's, um, it was Baseline drills that you do for
3:11:42
those George Michael please. That's six.
3:11:47
Just a teacher when I teach history whenever they're like
3:11:51
why is it named this? I answer is it was somebody's
3:11:54
name they named it after him? Yeah, exactly.
3:11:56
It's almost always. The reason almost always, the
3:11:59
reason guys, another great episode of King of the Hill,
3:12:01
next week, Errol will be the reigning King.
3:12:04
Oh, how wonderful? All right.
3:12:05
Are we gonna do well, let's party Doesn't like it.
3:12:08
Doesn't look like they're coming.
3:12:09
Johnny got us and then we'll just get into the inside
3:12:13
baseball. Let's parlay stuff.
3:12:15
And then right into, yeah, I'll just read.
3:12:18
What's his pics. I wanted them was live right
3:12:20
now. I mentioned in the comments
3:12:21
section, before he had Winnipeg minus 9 right now, tied 2323, so
3:12:26
maybe some live betting odds. Again the Edmunds in Elks at
3:12:29
home tomorrow. 7:30, he's got Montreal on the road, the
3:12:32
Alouette, covering -2 at the Hamilton tiger-cats, he's got a
3:12:37
Sunday 7:00. Oh, covering plus two and a half
3:12:41
on the road lady against the Ottawa Redblacks.
3:12:44
I need Brittany on Saturday 7:00, minus 3 and a half at home
3:12:48
Saskatchewan. Oh, my ass covering against BC.
3:12:51
You want to jerk me off? I have no idea what Speedy said,
3:12:57
yum, yum. All right Canadian football
3:13:00
scores. By the way, I did bet with West
3:13:04
on his Canadian football last time, he did it and I won.
3:13:08
All my bets is always started. He started For the CFL.
3:13:12
Oh yeah. I bet with him for three of them
3:13:15
and I was right I got three for three.
3:13:16
Yeah. See.
3:13:17
We'll see if this Winnipeg when there's still time in the fourth
3:13:19
quarter for them to run away with the game, the much better
3:13:23
team. He called them the chiefs of the
3:13:24
of the CFL play with my pickle. So, plenty of time, that's where
3:13:28
is panties from West. Anyways.
3:13:36
Roster. Legend Chris Trevor.
3:13:38
I'll let you lick my butt. You're so nice.
3:13:49
My peter. Oh gosh.
3:13:53
All right, let's go quick break. We got a sports minute and then
3:13:57
we have inside baseball with goody and Jabba and all of us.
3:14:00
And then the one in, only as it's been famously, accounted
3:14:04
for analytics Sportsman it. Let's go.
3:14:10
This is the job and the mouth Sportsman is hey guys.
3:14:15
Aaron Fishman here with your sports minute, gonna get into a
3:14:20
few stories before we give you the baseball scores tonight, the
3:14:23
Buffalo Sabers traded JJ peterka to the Utah Mammoth on Wednesday
3:14:28
night but Erica restricted, free agent, then signed a five-year
3:14:31
contract averaging 7.7 million a year, making him the second.
3:14:36
Highest player highest paid player on the mammoth, behind
3:14:38
defenseman, Mikhail sergev. JJ is a highly skilled creative
3:14:42
young forward with extremely high upside.
3:14:45
According to Utah, general manager, Bill Armstrong, he will
3:14:48
help solidify our scoring and adds to what is already a great
3:14:52
young core of forwards. On the roster signing JJ to
3:14:55
along term extension, is another positive step towards building a
3:14:58
sustainable Contender here in Utah.
3:15:01
And today is an exciting day for our entire organization.
3:15:04
Patrica was traded for 23 year old Winegard Josh.
3:15:07
Doan of longtime NHL Shane Dome and right-handed defenseman.
3:15:12
Michael kesselring, although Buffalo did not say, peterka
3:15:16
asked for a trade, it appears that Buffalo.
3:15:17
Once again, could not hold on to its homegrown Talent.
3:15:22
The Mets had people across social media in stitches on
3:15:26
Monday as a press release for their recent call-up.
3:15:30
Jumped off the page a little bit, even Mets announcers, Keith
3:15:33
Hernandez and Gary Cohen were called a little Tongue.
3:15:36
Tied as Mets relief, pitcher Richard Dickie lovely, lady came
3:15:41
to the club, from Triple A Syracuse on Monday.
3:15:43
And he revealed his preferred nickname to Mets PR and then on
3:15:47
to Cohen and Hernandez all over, Richard lovelies, friends call
3:15:51
him Dicky said calling. So when the Mets signed him and
3:15:54
brought him to the big league. So on Monday he can sold with
3:15:57
the meteor relationship staff and they asked him.
3:15:58
Do you want to be known as Richard or Dickie?
3:16:00
And so he said everyone calls me Dicky.
3:16:03
Call me Dicky. And so the Mets, put a press
3:16:08
release saying they just signed Dickie Lovelady and everyone
3:16:11
jumped on it on social media, he's Hernandez decided to play
3:16:14
it safe, and just call him Richard on the are unfortunately
3:16:17
for Dicky Lovelady. He was DFA by the Mets on
3:16:21
Wednesday, and if he isn't picked up by another Squad, he
3:16:24
is going to have to love the ladies back in Syracuse, a
3:16:27
little longer before he gets another shot in The Bigs the
3:16:30
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3:18:25
Anyways, we called this segment inside baseball.
3:18:29
Now, let's go deep deep inside baseball.
3:18:37
Oh, this is gonna be fun. Oh and we got two big guys we
3:18:41
got a bunch of baseball stories. A lot of baseball stories to
3:18:45
talk about in the news recently some of them positive some of
3:18:49
them not so positive. This reminds me this trough this
3:18:54
track reminds me of Cleveland baseball just so you know I just
3:18:57
had to say it should Major League.
3:18:59
Soundtrack. Right.
3:19:00
From the first movie. What am I about?
3:19:03
By the way, the Magnificent misery man, if you haven't
3:19:08
watched this guy pitch, It is something to behold and he went
3:19:12
up against Paul's, who is the best young pitcher in baseball
3:19:16
and outdoor gym for five innings?
3:19:18
They don't let him pitch deeper than that right now, but miske's
3:19:21
throwing harder than anybody in baseball.
3:19:24
Consistently. Well, over 100 every pitch, it
3:19:28
seems like I think he had something like 19 pitches that
3:19:32
were over a 101 in the game and skiing had one.
3:19:35
And the 20s over 101 is the most ever.
3:19:40
And it was almost all him. Take a look at this pitch right
3:19:44
here. This is a 96 mile an hour
3:19:47
slider. Really Castro goes down.
3:19:49
Yeah, it's nasty. That's his filthy as a slider
3:19:53
gets and they showed afterwards that right before the break it
3:19:56
looks almost exactly like the fastball going on the inside.
3:19:59
Oh that's same like arm slot. I don't know.
3:20:02
Even reminds me of when Strider first came up.
3:20:04
I hope you could stay healthy but that's the that's where we
3:20:07
start is with that duel between these two guys.
3:20:10
So Arrow. I know your big fan of skins.
3:20:14
Schemes might not be the best pitcher in baseball.
3:20:17
This is a picture in baseball. This kid, I don't know anything
3:20:20
about them. I've heard a little bit about
3:20:22
how hard he throws. He reminds me of a Young Noah
3:20:25
syndergaard froze. Very very hard.
3:20:27
No, a synagogue. When he came to the league with
3:20:29
the Mets, this guy was Unstoppable.
3:20:31
They gave him the nickname for. He threw 92 mile per hour,
3:20:35
change-ups 93 mile per hour, change up, his slider was like
3:20:38
94 miles per hour. He was throwing 100 99 100.
3:20:42
Now obviously baseball's different.
3:20:44
The technically these guys are going to throw harder because of
3:20:47
all the opportunities they have with all the the different you
3:20:50
know scientific things that you see guys you know come up with
3:20:54
but I think I still think Paul skins is a better pitcher and
3:20:58
this guy might throw his arm out the way he's talking the ball,
3:21:00
he's great. He's Sensational teams all
3:21:03
obviously eventually time him. Right and figure him out I just
3:21:08
I stopped. I know a lot of people want to
3:21:10
put put him over Paul's Kings. Paul skates is done it.
3:21:14
Over a year and a half in the big league.
3:21:16
Let's see what this guy does in a full season, then we could try
3:21:19
to compare and contrast. That's all.
3:21:22
Miske's different. He throws those.
3:21:25
He's 100 to 102 is curveballs 9 miles an hour.
3:21:28
Sliders 96, change up 92, but what makes him super specials.
3:21:32
He's in the other person tile and extension.
3:21:34
So they have a stack called perceive velocity.
3:21:37
So the fastball might come in at about 100, but they are seeing
3:21:41
it like 102. But, you know, over time the
3:21:45
ball will slow down but actually, it looks like his is
3:21:49
taking off because he's reaching out and putting the ball in it.
3:21:52
Like, in the glove is extension, he's shortening.
3:21:54
The 60 feet 6 inches. We'll say, is striving to seven
3:21:58
feet, you know, whatever. And it's getting up and it's
3:22:00
quicker, which is why it's ridiculous.
3:22:02
So I think he's better than Paul skeins.
3:22:05
Know, I don't I don't I I have to see him.
3:22:09
Over the course of a year, like you said, see if he can, you
3:22:13
know, handle it, once the team, once a league starts making
3:22:16
adjustments to him, then we'll really see what he's made of
3:22:18
going back to their matchup Paul.
3:22:21
Just he just had one rough ending.
3:22:23
The guy's got to him a little bit and then he settled in and
3:22:26
the next the next two innings or whatever, we're fine.
3:22:28
I mean truck out there guys but did throw a lot of pitches and
3:22:32
I'm sure that's why they took him out, but I wasn't impressed.
3:22:35
I was impressed with the Miz. The Miz did have some nice shit.
3:22:37
I won't lie and stuff was nice or sure and didn't look like a
3:22:41
fun at that. But Give him some time, the
3:22:44
leaks lost to make an adjustment.
3:22:45
I think that was like, his, what his fourth or fifth outing.
3:22:48
This is, I don't think it was that much a thing.
3:22:50
It was just third start. Yeah.
3:22:51
I think it's third and I think he's only giving up three hits
3:22:54
in three stars. Yes, more than enough.
3:22:58
Yeah, it's just ridiculous how good he is right now.
3:23:01
But again, you know, it's very early with that guy.
3:23:04
It's just so exciting to watch that.
3:23:05
What's exciting watch. It's something exciting for the
3:23:08
Brewers. I mean, they're, they're
3:23:09
pitching Factory over there. They constantly are putting out
3:23:12
pictures. So, you know, now they just need
3:23:14
to get their offense. Boom, and that's their staff.
3:23:18
And then, you know, they're gonna be fine.
3:23:20
But, you know. Yeah, it's a name and it was it
3:23:24
they MLB hyped. That hype that match up quite a
3:23:26
bit. So those fun to watch for sure.
3:23:29
You think, what do you think is the MLB.TV free game of the day?
3:23:32
Yeah, for that reason. It's and it's it's great and
3:23:37
it's, it's great for baseball because the younger generation
3:23:40
and you're seeing guys like Chase Burns come up.
3:23:42
You know, any year and set set a record nobody's ever talked
3:23:47
about Chase. We'll talk about chasing a
3:23:48
little bit and so I'm just talking about as as young kids
3:23:52
like yeah with what they're doing.
3:23:53
It's they're trying like they're trying to get the old ads out.
3:23:57
Obviously we've seen what Clayton has done since his first
3:24:00
started his last seven have been unbelievable.
3:24:03
And they're going to continue to grind and do all that.
3:24:06
They know how to do it. He's three away from 3000 which
3:24:08
will be awesome to see. He's deserves it.
3:24:09
But yeah, I think That's two, you're going to be wanting to
3:24:14
watch for a long time, hopefully and hopefully, they can stay
3:24:16
healthy and with, with the way things are going now, you just
3:24:21
never know. But it was fun to watch stuff
3:24:23
wise like like you said ski inside, that one, bad inning,
3:24:26
but stuff was just watching both of them work.
3:24:28
I mean it's just if you're not a baseball fan you know some
3:24:31
people want to see all these runs and I want to, I like a one
3:24:35
game but that that does something for me.
3:24:38
It's just the chess match of back and forth and it'll be
3:24:41
interesting to see, you know, they're young How far they're
3:24:45
willing to go like obviously you're trying to save them but
3:24:48
yeah you try to save me and I'm blue out anyway.
3:24:50
So for me personally you let him go. look what K did in the World
3:24:55
Series win, 130 pitches Let him go.
3:24:58
If he's gonna blow, he's gonna blow Well, same with Strasberg.
3:25:04
Speedy. I we have a lot of these
3:25:06
Advanced statistics to tell you how good it is and good with an
3:25:11
extension though. But extension now they have this
3:25:13
site, I use it very exclusively from my fantasy, baseball stuff,
3:25:17
it's called, baseball, Savant baseball.
3:25:19
Savant is like kind of idiot proof because if it's red, it's
3:25:23
good. He's 100% all the way to the Red
3:25:26
Mesa rousky. I'm like literally everything
3:25:29
and I I didn't understand explained it, I thought it was
3:25:34
like More in that not so much like, hiding the ball but like,
3:25:37
just like like you're saying like, how, how, like hard it is
3:25:42
for you to pick it up out of his hands because, like, it's
3:25:45
getting too fast to like a guy that throws 95 with no
3:25:49
extension. A guy with like, 93 with, like
3:25:52
good extension would probably be harder to hit.
3:25:54
Is I think what they're saying? But Speedy, you have any of
3:25:57
these ideas on like, how the how to use this actionable.
3:26:01
I Yeah, I haven't seen it with with Ms. Rossi with his, with
3:26:04
his numbers quite yet, but, yeah, if they're all that high,
3:26:07
it generally means that they're not being seen to the same level
3:26:10
of it's not even like a drastic change of speed or from, what
3:26:13
you were describing goody, It's seems like he's keeping them all
3:26:15
the same velocity but they're similar enough where it's still
3:26:18
enough distinctly. That's thrown off these hitter.
3:26:21
Now granted this game was the Pirates often.
3:26:22
So I don't know how much you gonna take that into account but
3:26:24
nevertheless these face some other good teams like you were
3:26:27
showing the Highlight against the twins who have a decent
3:26:29
offense and we're going to his first start with again but they
3:26:32
were pretty good team as well. I think it might have been the
3:26:33
cops and they he still had the like you're showing in his
3:26:37
charts here. You're you see enough of it,
3:26:39
where these locations are all. So very strong too.
3:26:42
Scattered enough to keep him guessing and the combination of
3:26:46
that with the velocity is going to be cute but like arrows
3:26:49
mentioning too, the usage will be a big key.
3:26:52
That was a big biggest problem that hurt, Noah syndergaard.
3:26:53
He had five pitches and only decided to throw two of them
3:26:57
later in his Mets career, and it really hurt him, both injury
3:27:00
wise and just stuff wise and Since his stuff falling off, he
3:27:03
is not recovered. So you hope that doesn't happen
3:27:05
with mizerowski. But like you were saying goodie,
3:27:07
I think the Brewers have been coming up of a young pitching
3:27:09
Factory where that kind of thing doesn't happen.
3:27:10
We were talking about the kid Henderson got I got the mode,
3:27:13
it's surprisingly, the kid Patrick's done very well too
3:27:16
Chad Patrick. And like I said, Peralta
3:27:19
rebirthing him as a veteran when he was dealing with all those
3:27:21
Tommy. John surgeries, that takes
3:27:22
something. All right, let's let's move on
3:27:26
on that one. That was the, the fun baseball
3:27:28
story of the show but everything else is decidedly.
3:27:32
Not as fun because there's some horrible stories in the baseball
3:27:36
world, and we have to start with wander Franko.
3:27:39
Wonder Franko was found guilty today, and he only gets a
3:27:44
suspended two-year sentence for sexual abuse of a minor.
3:27:48
He does not go to jail. Unless he violates the
3:27:52
conditions, which means being around more Miners, Baseball
3:27:57
will likely suspend him indefinitely for this?
3:28:01
I don't know when, if they'll let him back, but the fact that
3:28:05
he's not going to jail and the mother of the daughter of the of
3:28:09
the woman is going in jail for 10 years raises more than one
3:28:14
eyebrow. For me, it raises quite a few
3:28:16
across the industry. I want to hear you guys take on
3:28:18
it, Errol started with you man. First of all, Wonder Franco is a
3:28:22
piece of garbage. He doesn't belong in the league.
3:28:25
He shouldn't step one time. One foot ever on a baseball
3:28:29
field. Again, that's my fact, if
3:28:31
you're, if you're watching a picture and I'm not gonna
3:28:34
mention the name because I know Java don't like him.
3:28:36
He he's never even been fully proven to do any of those things
3:28:41
that these girls have told or said that he has done or in a
3:28:46
state, in a court, in a quart. And this guy has been proven in
3:28:50
only gets two years because he's a multi-millionaire.
3:28:53
I think it's despicable absolutely despicable.
3:28:56
And honestly, God, if you look at the big picture, I just think
3:29:01
that the MLB needs to stay away from guys like this.
3:29:04
He by the way he got get what do you get?
3:29:07
Like he had to make a couple of million dollars off.
3:29:09
That deal with Tampa before before there that that contracts
3:29:13
Nolan void, I would probably think that he probably brought
3:29:16
in about 56 million dollars even if he never plays baseball.
3:29:20
Again, the guy's a multi-millionaire.
3:29:21
So, what is he care? I mean, he got Way with murder
3:29:25
and he's sitting there pretty still multi-millionaire.
3:29:28
So I, I think it's despicable, I think that it happened in the
3:29:34
Dominican Republic, right? That's where it happened.
3:29:35
It just shows you how much the Dominican Republic, don't see,
3:29:40
eye-to-eye, by the way, the rules and the way the
3:29:42
regulations are, it's despicable.
3:29:44
So a lot of them have had sexual assault or domestic violence
3:29:49
issues in the past, a lot of them have come from there that
3:29:52
MLB. I think some for some instances
3:29:54
have done. Well, and in terms of
3:29:55
disciplining, but it's different when you're dealing with a legal
3:29:58
system, that just so flawed know in the league, they'll let him
3:30:01
back. No in the league, they'll let
3:30:03
him back without just only getting two years.
3:30:09
Like, you were saying fish, like, not even like some formal
3:30:12
jail type of thing like I don't know how much to say about it.
3:30:17
I just am a high school teacher who are around 14 year old girls
3:30:21
like that. You're just like, I can't even
3:30:23
imagine what's wrong in your brain.
3:30:26
That makes you want to do anything like that.
3:30:28
It's just so screwed up on so many levels.
3:30:30
It's disgusting and I hope he never let his ass back into
3:30:35
best. The fact that the mother got 10
3:30:39
years and he only got two years, just says it just shows you how
3:30:43
to get. She got 10 years, she got ten
3:30:47
years because he was paying her tens of thousands of dollars and
3:30:50
it was considered sex trafficking of a minor.
3:30:53
Okay. And he was, he was like pimping
3:30:56
out her daughter and he was doing it.
3:30:58
He was doing it. So why not take away with it?
3:31:01
Why, you're right, there's a lot of places.
3:31:05
That are like very Pro. I mean, not really where we are
3:31:09
but I there are a lot of countries, a lot of places that
3:31:12
are going to be a lot more lenient to the men in these
3:31:15
situations for some reason they're only lenient to him
3:31:18
because he's a superstar baseball player, maybe maybe
3:31:20
that's true, maybe that's it. And he's got money.
3:31:23
They're giving him a slap on the wrist and it's crazy.
3:31:26
I wouldn't be surprised if he paid the judge right onto the
3:31:30
table. I wouldn't be surprised.
3:31:31
I wouldn't be so hope, that's true.
3:31:34
So we can talk about that story because that would be some shit.
3:31:36
I wouldn't be probably got anything to add.
3:31:39
No, let's move on. I got it's not a great story
3:31:42
following up. It's the Ketel, Marte Story,
3:31:44
another really screwed up one now.
3:31:47
Ketel Marte also Dominican Republic.
3:31:49
His mother died in the car accident in 2017 and a lovely
3:31:54
White Sox fan decided to Heckle him and make fun of the fact
3:32:00
that his mother was dead and awful things that I'm not even
3:32:03
gonna bother repeating. What did you hear it?
3:32:06
As excuse? You saying, I was like, I was
3:32:08
just trying to say hi to his mom. that's he said, he said, I
3:32:12
thought your mom was a bomb or something, whatever a Bop is, I
3:32:16
have no idea what that means. I don't know.
3:32:18
And then that's what, that's what I read.
3:32:20
And then apparently, They heard your mom deserve.
3:32:24
What she got. Yeah, that's already ridiculous
3:32:29
to say to somebody. I, Mean.
3:32:33
I look, I my I have a lot of relatives that have passed, you
3:32:38
know, you have. My parents are still here.
3:32:40
Not my wife doesn't have her parents still.
3:32:43
I can't imagine saying anything like that to someone who lost
3:32:46
her one of their parents or both of their parents, just one of
3:32:49
the most disgusting things. I'm very happy the White Sox and
3:32:52
then Major League Baseball found the way to make sure this guy
3:32:54
doesn't come back to any games. Ever again Arrow.
3:32:58
All these stories are disgusting.
3:33:00
If somebody said anything about my dead mother, may obviously my
3:33:05
mom's not dead but said something about my father and I
3:33:08
was playing on a baseball field, I go into the Dugout.
3:33:11
I grabbed a baseball bat and go after that guy.
3:33:13
That's what I would do. I that is Despicable and the
3:33:18
fact that baseball stepped in and actually did the right thing
3:33:20
here that says a lot, but I still don't like, Rob Manfred as
3:33:25
a job. Will call him.
3:33:26
He's in a s and, and I just think baseball never makes the
3:33:30
right decision. They finally made the right
3:33:32
decision here. Look what they did look in
3:33:34
baseball with the Yankees in the World Series.
3:33:37
Look at that, look at what happened there.
3:33:40
I mean, obviously, we know that, those two, those two guys in
3:33:44
the, in the outfields, we're trying to rip the ball.
3:33:47
And rip, what's his name again? Betsy's arm right off his body
3:33:51
and they get a slap on the wrist.
3:33:54
I just, it's pathetic baseball, but, you know, but that's not
3:33:58
his Bad as what that. Hold on, with second Mookie
3:34:03
Betts could been permanently injured Golfer one of those
3:34:06
guys. One of those guys ripped and
3:34:09
tear down at his arm. Yeah.
3:34:10
But he would have been just fine.
3:34:12
It's not talking about a dead parent like yeah, break my wrist
3:34:16
like I can't play ever again fine.
3:34:18
I'm taking care of But don't talk about my family talked
3:34:21
about me. Touch me.
3:34:22
Try to fight me. I don't care.
3:34:25
Don't, you're not talking about my family that's just there's no
3:34:28
infants or butts break my leg, great.
3:34:32
Might I got hit in a car accident.
3:34:34
Going to the game sucks. Covered paid.
3:34:37
Don't matter. But you're not gonna yell at me
3:34:40
about my family, that's just not it.
3:34:43
No. I mean this this happened first
3:34:45
of all, the people around them should have beat his ass.
3:34:47
Yeah, if I hear that. And it was just they were young,
3:34:52
he was 22. The best is this is why I love
3:34:55
the internet. They wouldn't release his name.
3:34:58
Oh, hold on. 30 seconds, boys. It took all of the internet
3:35:03
about eight minutes before. His name was all out there and
3:35:07
so and it's it's gonna follow him.
3:35:09
I hope he gets his ass beat. Ya reprehensible, man, but he
3:35:14
got good. I mean, I just think people, I
3:35:18
think fan just need, it's great to Heckle, it's all about part
3:35:22
of the game Park comes with. It comes with a fan of
3:35:25
professional athlete, he'd take it, you take the hits whatever.
3:35:28
But I think at the end of the day, like realized that people
3:35:33
that are out there are humans too, you know, and like, yeah,
3:35:38
you're supposed to let stuff roll off your back and all that
3:35:41
and but some things hit home a little more than others.
3:35:45
And That's probably you gotta draw the line somewhere.
3:35:50
And that's, that was definitely crossing the line.
3:35:52
I mean, you just treat others, how you want to be treated?
3:35:56
You know what I'm saying? And that's should be fine.
3:35:58
Like, you go to a game, you pay money, you should be able to
3:36:01
Heckle somebody. I want to get super personal
3:36:04
like that you're talking about. Dead relatives or whatever the
3:36:09
case may be, like just know that that dude is dealing dudes.
3:36:14
A person to is a real person dealing with the same issues
3:36:17
that you're dealing with. You just happens to have you or
3:36:20
she just happens to have a cool job.
3:36:21
We don't go to your desk job and hopefully you like you're dead
3:36:25
mother. Yeah, I'm saying like Yeah.
3:36:29
It's just crazy, bro. You're professional like I got a
3:36:33
question that I need answered though, right now.
3:36:36
Speedy. What's the meanest thing you've
3:36:39
ever yelled at somebody? Does it compare to this?
3:36:45
So, I don't think you have a mean bone in your body.
3:36:48
Know, I'm not that way personal. But can you think like, maybe
3:36:53
you're angry at, like your brother's, maybe your dog, you
3:36:56
know, something? What looks like the meanest
3:36:58
thing you've ever? For arrow, for sure, for could
3:37:03
be Ariel. It's not anything close to that.
3:37:10
I'm more, I'm more you stink, I'm more Petty.
3:37:13
Okay, that's a general one. I think everyone said that at
3:37:16
some point in their lives. I don't think he's ever come at
3:37:18
me with anything. I don't really have ever heard
3:37:22
of it. I've known Speedy now over 10
3:37:24
years. I don't think he's ever come at
3:37:27
me in any kind of angry way where I'm like, man.
3:37:30
That guy's got some temper. Never seen it.
3:37:33
Never Know, I used to heckle. Steve Mason, it Rangers Flyers
3:37:40
games and just scream was as soon as he got real quiet, that
3:37:43
he had a Sandy vagina, really, really loud.
3:37:45
And it was hilarious. Every time I can't do it on
3:37:48
their shows. I just not even that that's
3:37:51
easy. I would laugh.
3:37:54
I would like if you Heckle me and it's good.
3:37:59
I will turn around and give you credit like if it's funny and
3:38:03
like you see all these dudes like They talk about you like
3:38:08
boobs or butt. Left hand, right hand.
3:38:09
Like, dude, that's stuff. Like that's part of the game,
3:38:12
that's what's fun. And if you like, you have me and
3:38:15
say something that's great, I'll literally turning and clap for
3:38:18
you. But like, dude, I haven't heard
3:38:20
that one. That's a good one and then
3:38:22
they're like, Oh, and then they're like, ah, sweet.
3:38:25
And I'm like this. That's what's, that's, the fun
3:38:28
part about it. And then you got idiots, like,
3:38:30
Chad Wilson is his name by the way.
3:38:33
So all of our fans that are listening you ever run into him.
3:38:36
Punch him in the face for me. Um, generic name.
3:38:39
Yeah, horny, Chad Wilson. But yeah, she's not over then
3:38:46
people take it too far and just like, yeah, Doo.
3:38:50
Lulu. All right, let's let's move
3:38:53
through. We got to some real fascinating
3:38:55
story. I don't know if you saw this is
3:38:57
a few days ago, but for NATO tattoos, junior is buying a
3:39:00
lawsuit against an agency. He signed with it, when he was a
3:39:04
teenager. That's now trying to basically
3:39:06
extort him with that contract, he's not the world around just
3:39:11
under 40 million dollars. I wanted to see if you guys
3:39:14
especially, you know, Nick and Jabba you guys from guys, or
3:39:21
maybe personal about these types of predatory agencies going
3:39:25
after young guys, these days, in Earl, if you had any experience
3:39:28
with stuff like that, when you were playing, you know, in your
3:39:31
teams playing like really competitive Elite hockey too.
3:39:34
Like let's start with you have anything?
3:39:37
What was your question? I'm sorry.
3:39:39
I was I was fixing my earthing. The these like agents and
3:39:44
agencies they promise you the world and then they rip you off.
3:39:47
And actually it's it's good because I was just on the phone
3:39:51
with two agents today, working with Preston Carrie and they're,
3:39:56
they're hungry, that's what they are.
3:39:58
They pressed in is is doing an announcement as he's going, he's
3:40:03
going to choose where he's going to college there.
3:40:06
His agent is spending over 50,000 dollars for this event
3:40:10
50k to set this up so he could announce at the Eureka castle
3:40:15
that He's going where he's gonna go to college.
3:40:20
And listen, I was just Asia, I'm not gonna mention his name.
3:40:23
I, I can't really, I can't really say, bulshit I can just
3:40:27
look it up. I can't say I'm sorry, not on.
3:40:30
Not on are not off the air. Off the air, I can't off the air
3:40:33
cat. I can't get.
3:40:34
It's public knowledge at some point.
3:40:36
Yeah, I know, but I I'm not gonna say that but let's say his
3:40:40
agents a good guy. I'm not saying that he's a bad
3:40:41
dude. They're both really really nice
3:40:43
guys. I just think that you know every
3:40:46
agent is is trying to make money.
3:40:49
And and if this kid turns out to be a superstar this is not an
3:40:53
agency. That what this is is this guy
3:40:56
he's a kid. These guys are these guys are
3:40:59
like a pool of money that gets together.
3:41:01
We all were betting on Fernando tatis as 17 year old.
3:41:06
We're giving him 2 million dollars up front as a 17 or 18
3:41:11
year old. And in the agreement, he he
3:41:14
agrees to give us 10% of all his future earnings Now, Fernando
3:41:18
tatis goes out there and blows his ACL.
3:41:20
Harris is Tommy John. He retains the two million
3:41:25
dollars ever, makes another dollar again and that's a bad
3:41:28
investment on their part. Now if you goes out and signs
3:41:31
the 300 300 million dollar deal or whatever that he signed, now
3:41:36
that agency that up, fronted him 2 million dollars as a 17 year
3:41:40
old is expected to get their 32 million dollars back and return.
3:41:45
It does it suck? Yes.
3:41:47
Is it exploitation, maybe? But at the same time, as a 17
3:41:52
year old and you're getting a check for 2 million dollars, you
3:41:54
don't know what the future holds.
3:41:56
I mean, What I mean you it's a shity deal if you if you're if
3:42:03
you feel like you're going to bet on if you bet on yourself
3:42:05
and you know, you're going to be, you know, you just have to,
3:42:07
you know, I'm gonna be good. That could happen.
3:42:10
Andrew Heaney signed a deal like that not too long ago and the
3:42:13
actual the company I guess went under and the deal fell through
3:42:16
and he got to retain the five million dollars or whatever that
3:42:19
they gave him, they come after a lot of people.
3:42:21
The issue is you have to surround yourself with people
3:42:24
that are financially found, so that they can make a better
3:42:28
decision for you or with you, like 2 million dollars is a lot
3:42:32
of money to a 70 year old 2 million dollars, a lot of money
3:42:34
in general but like 10% of your future earnings.
3:42:37
That's a huge chunk of change, especially when you turned out
3:42:40
to be a freaking star. And that's where that's the,
3:42:46
that's the whole issue. So it's not that they're
3:42:48
necessarily taking advantage. What they're doing is keying on
3:42:51
on certain King in on certain players that they think have the
3:42:55
best potential to make them the most money, offering them x
3:42:59
amount of dollars up front and hopes that on the back end, they
3:43:02
will recoup that plus more. and so, it's I mean, it's Is it bad?
3:43:08
I don't know because if you, if you broke its gambling, you're
3:43:14
gambling. That's what you're doing.
3:43:15
You're signing a contract, but it's the same thing.
3:43:18
Like, when I was in college, we took a loins of London out
3:43:21
because God forbid, something happened.
3:43:23
And I got hurt because I was projected to the first round
3:43:25
draft pick. so, they were like, hey, I talked to a buddy that
3:43:30
was drafted in the first round before and he's like I got a
3:43:32
loads of London just in case I get hit by a car.
3:43:34
I can't do this. I'm still covered of what
3:43:36
projected that I was. Yes, we had to give a lot of
3:43:39
stuff. We had to go do a physical and
3:43:40
all the other stuff but it was it was a one-time fee.
3:43:44
Where if God forbid something happened to me?
3:43:47
I was covered, but if nothing happened to me it was like, all
3:43:50
right, boom. But what this happens to more is
3:43:53
is not the american-born players, it does happen.
3:43:57
They'll find but it's just it's not agency.
3:44:00
They'll do this a lot for the Dominican kids.
3:44:03
Venezuelan, guys like that where it's like, hey, we can get you
3:44:07
over here. And you know, what will give you
3:44:10
x amount of dollars, but it's anywhere from like 10 to 15% of
3:44:16
future, and it may pay off. It doesn't sometimes, sometimes
3:44:19
it does it, and it's, it's not uncommon deceased stuff like
3:44:22
that. It's just weird that it's just
3:44:24
coming out like this, and now, It's because it's 32 million and
3:44:28
not like 500 Grand. Yeah, exactly. 32 million is A
3:44:33
lot and I mean, I can see both sides of the story, you know?
3:44:37
So, all right, let's let's get out of this segment.
3:44:40
We got two things left in it, we always do an injury report, huge
3:44:44
injury to Arizona Corbin Carroll gets hit in the wrist, I play,
3:44:49
he's out for a couple of games. They find out after the swelling
3:44:52
goes down. He has a fracture in the wrist.
3:44:53
He's gonna be out for quite a while.
3:44:54
There were two foul balls in The Dugout that took out.
3:44:59
Two guys, a guy named pitcher named, I guess it is Biggie or
3:45:04
big. He had to be carted off.
3:45:06
He got hit, he got blasted. And then Cambridge had a
3:45:10
concussion from getting hit in the head.
3:45:12
Just being in the Dugout. I You see now, like you don't
3:45:17
see it as much like when I was a kid, like they didn't have a,
3:45:20
protecting a dog out. But guys, are you like, Like
3:45:25
it's just feels like you're inviting death sometimes with
3:45:30
the way that some of these balls and sometimes the bat fly into
3:45:33
that Dugout like yeah, have you ever had to like really Scurry a
3:45:36
couple times there, boys. My last my last game, I was at
3:45:40
the Collegiate League. We had a guy throw a bad didn't
3:45:44
even actually was a broken bat, he broke a bomb that which is
3:45:47
like a composite wood bats kind of crazy and flying over he
3:45:51
wasn't even paying attention. The media girl was like jumping
3:45:53
out the way and I mean it landed right in front of us, I mean, if
3:45:56
your head's on a swivel, While you're in the Dugout, you
3:46:00
definitely you. It needs to be because flying
3:46:06
bats and baseball's coming in and 100 miles an hour.
3:46:10
Don't feel good to the face. I can't imagine I've had I've
3:46:16
had to Dodge I caught one on a shade that was the worst.
3:46:19
It got I mean I got hit with come backers.
3:46:22
But yeah if you're if you're just sitting there in in The
3:46:26
Dugout I mean yeah, you're looking around or whatever but
3:46:30
pay attention because it's like You don't have time to react and
3:46:34
it's just like, oh boy. Here we go.
3:46:36
But yeah, I never, I had to Scurry a couple times, but I
3:46:40
never caught one directly. I caught one off for Ricky show.
3:46:44
Okay, I mean, yeah, I haven't gotten one.
3:46:48
I just, I'm always, it's always like the scariest thing.
3:46:50
What's your worst come back or goody?
3:46:57
I have it on video. I actually, probably, I had a
3:47:00
couple. I've had, like, two men.
3:47:02
I will say that for another second.
3:47:04
Yeah, it was a one in spring training.
3:47:06
I got these, I got everything. I do want to see that picture.
3:47:13
Kutter Crawford. Out for the season and off-field
3:47:16
accident to his pitching hand and wrist Errol.
3:47:20
This guy had a really good season last year looked like he
3:47:24
was breaking out to be part of this Red Sox rotation that had
3:47:27
all this promise. No.
3:47:32
Not this year, the promise has gone from that rotation and this
3:47:36
is a big reason. Why I don't know if they're
3:47:39
gonna go after his money. But they probably gonna go after
3:47:42
his money. Well, there's a reason they said
3:47:45
off field incident and didn't say what it was very
3:47:48
specifically didn't say what it was, they didn't take, they
3:47:51
didn't take mine when I was jumping on a trampoline.
3:47:53
So That is related to this that I can't believe that.
3:47:59
I hate that. That's true.
3:48:00
Do you do you guys remember, remember Aaron Boone?
3:48:04
Remember Aaron Boone was supposed to get a contract the
3:48:07
year, after when he hit that that winning home, run at CEO
3:48:11
and pick up towards me playing pickleball here and it's screwed
3:48:15
him out out of a contract and all that other stuff on all
3:48:18
those other stories that you've heard over the years, honestly,
3:48:21
the Red Sox aren't going to come out and tell the truth because
3:48:23
if they do, it'll make the kid look, really, really bad, but
3:48:27
they're definitely gonna go after his money.
3:48:29
Only thing, that's David me was, I was with my son, so I didn't
3:48:33
look like an absolute piece of shit.
3:48:35
You weren't like skiing, like in Vail or something.
3:48:39
No, you weren't supposed to write.
3:48:40
You know what funny story about that.
3:48:43
Tina, Martinez Tino, Martinez brother-in-laws.
3:48:46
Want to pick me up. How about that?
3:48:49
He was one of the paramedics. Really?
3:48:51
I what do I have here? Oh Speedy.
3:48:54
I want to hear what you think about.
3:48:56
This adley rushman injury because adley rushman.
3:48:59
When he came up was supposed to be the best catcher in baseball.
3:49:03
That's that's catcher at calling the game.
3:49:05
Best hitting catcher, he hit it every level, he hit his first
3:49:09
year, and now, He can't hit the broadside of a barn for most of
3:49:14
the season and now he's got an oblique and in fact, they said
3:49:17
it was a light oblique strain but they decided that they're
3:49:20
going to sit him out past the All-Star break.
3:49:22
Anyway, why do you? I have some suspicions why
3:49:25
they're doing that. Both.
3:49:27
What do you what have you noticed about?
3:49:28
What it's supposed to be the star player for this Orioles
3:49:32
team? Yeah it's interesting because
3:49:33
obviously the big name hype wise before him was Matt Weirs in the
3:49:37
same organization. He looked good in the beginning
3:49:39
of his career too. And then he had similar kind of
3:49:40
injury issues and never recovered.
3:49:42
He ended up going to Washington never resigned with them.
3:49:44
Now I think is supposed to have higher upside offensively than
3:49:47
weeders did at the time. And like you said, first three
3:49:50
years of his career was pretty durable.
3:49:51
Obviously the power numbers were as high as you can get last year
3:49:54
and now you for some in this year that in a year where the
3:49:58
Orioles had tough injury lock as it is I think the Dodger it was
3:50:02
the Dodgers. The White Sox in that.
3:50:03
I think I've had the most high else did like combined this year
3:50:06
with everybody but yeah you want to I guess maybe they're trying
3:50:09
to extend it where because it's hard to find catchers as it is
3:50:12
that kind of foundation you want to have at that position.
3:50:15
So maybe that's why they're extending him out.
3:50:17
And I guess with the way you like, you said he was
3:50:18
struggling. He look like he finally was
3:50:20
getting back and then struggled again.
3:50:22
So, maybe that's the reason they extended even further, said, not
3:50:25
to protect that. I told you this was gonna
3:50:27
happen. With with Mario's, okay, with
3:50:31
their Orioles offense. And and everything's here from
3:50:34
hell for them. I'm waiting to see Jackson
3:50:36
Holliday breakdown. I don't know what's going on
3:50:38
with this kid, but it's starting to a little bit starting to a
3:50:42
little bit, but you're right. It's not what anyone thought
3:50:44
this year. I thought they were going to be
3:50:46
a playoff team. I think a lot of people thought
3:50:48
that as well, but you're right, I will absolutely, there's one
3:50:51
other guy on this injury list. This is a weird injury.
3:50:54
Usually here about the labrum in the shoulder.
3:50:57
This is the labrum in the hip. The only other hip labrum
3:51:00
injury. I remember was A-Rod.
3:51:02
I remember A-Rod was having these labor same surgery as a
3:51:07
rod dead. Same surgery, really?
3:51:09
Yes, I had four hooks, put in a red had five put in, you know,
3:51:13
it's it's so they got a hook it back onto the hips so what they
3:51:17
do. So what happens is they go in
3:51:19
author, scopic and they go, they they put three holes in your hip
3:51:24
and they go in. And what they do is they they
3:51:29
But the muscle, they shave, the bone, and they reattach the
3:51:32
muscle with hooks, and then you're on crutches for a month.
3:51:36
You can't walk on on that leg. And then you have to
3:51:40
rehabilitate yourself and you got to teach yourself how to
3:51:42
walk again. It's true.
3:51:44
It's, it's horrible, you might as well get a hip replacement
3:51:47
because ever since then I have not been the same just so
3:51:50
everybody knows. Don't ever do it, it's the worst
3:51:53
surgery and it's terrible. It's terrible to try to heal and
3:51:56
any of, and any situation when it comes to this kind of stuff.
3:52:00
So I I had the same, by the way, One of the doctors he had four
3:52:05
doctors in his surgery. One of a doctor Jamal was to say
3:52:09
he was a part of a rock he was there a part of a rod surgery.
3:52:12
He did my surgery did a terrible job by the way.
3:52:15
Just so everybody knows don't go to doctor Toronto.
3:52:18
It doesn't sound like the type of injury that horrible bounce
3:52:22
back. I still feel.
3:52:23
This is Marlins. Prospect is supposed to have a
3:52:27
good year. He didn't look right all year
3:52:28
and now I think we know why. Let's hope he can bounce back
3:52:31
from that and know, just a couple of names.
3:52:33
Just so, you know, notice ever since that hip surgery Arrow was
3:52:36
never the same. So I I just don't know how you
3:52:40
come back from that and be as athletic.
3:52:42
So I have five, I'm gonna start doing this five fishing.
3:52:44
I'll give you one that was though.
3:52:46
Alex Gordon? I yes.
3:52:48
Yes, Alex Gordon did? I think I was a bad trick.
3:52:53
Jacob Wilson fast. Yeah, but they were young
3:52:57
weren't they younger than a rod? I mean Aaron.
3:52:59
Did it later in his career was older in his career back on
3:53:03
track? So I got five, got five names to
3:53:05
give you. We already talked about Burns a
3:53:08
little bit. Did you know that Jacob Wilson
3:53:09
is the son of Jack Wilson, former great infield or
3:53:13
defensive infield for the Pirates back in the day.
3:53:15
So he's having probably gonna be the Rookie of the Year in the
3:53:18
American League. He's him three, 50, like a legit
3:53:21
350 doesn't strike out at all. He's walks more than he strikes
3:53:26
out as a rookie. That's very uncommon.
3:53:28
Not, he has some pop, not a tiny, he's probably gonna finish
3:53:31
around 15 homers and maybe 10 stolen bases, but this is the
3:53:36
next big time contact hitter. Coming into the league, keep an
3:53:40
eye on Jacob Wilson, Chase Burns.
3:53:42
I got the Highlight, I'm gonna put it up right now.
3:53:44
You guys were talking about it earlier starts off facing the
3:53:48
Yankees starts off his career. Striking out five Yankees in a
3:53:50
row and crude including judge. Just an absolute stud
3:53:55
performance. I want to hear a little bit from
3:53:57
our pictures on this highlight. I'm about to put up right here.
3:54:00
Cincinnati Reds. For the best strikes out eight.
3:54:06
I think I have the first six on there.
3:54:08
It's electric. It's electric.
3:54:10
Look at this. Swag too.
3:54:14
The spark. They need to get these.
3:54:15
He's a big dude. Yeah, it's electric stuff dude.
3:54:19
I mean, this is what you want to starter pair that with hunter
3:54:22
green Yeah, when he gets back. In like a few weeks.
3:54:26
I think. Yeah.
3:54:27
I mean this is a big time. Big Time Prospect.
3:54:30
I think the reds are just scratching the surface of how
3:54:34
good they're gonna be at. That's the name.
3:54:36
I would keep an eye on that because if they can get Burns
3:54:39
going and hunter green back, that Ellie Cruise should be an
3:54:43
All-Star too. And he and he's not even in the
3:54:45
final Ballot or whatever. He didn't make the day, too.
3:54:49
I never I don't understand how that's working.
3:54:52
We'll talk about that more next week when they reveal the rest
3:54:55
of the All-Stars but they revealed just judge and Otani
3:55:00
today. As if we needed to know that
3:55:01
Andy Pie has Speedy not Page's Pie has He is the center fielder
3:55:08
for the Dodgers. He has something like a one like
3:55:11
almost 140 WRC plus this year. He's playing out of his mind and
3:55:17
the Dodgers have needed every last bit of it, haven't they?
3:55:19
Yeah, he was a backup on their roster last year kind of a
3:55:22
defensive replacement center field are now he's actually
3:55:24
become a well-rounded hitter to not overly special, it really
3:55:27
anything but he's a good balance of occasional Pop.
3:55:31
I think he's got 13 home runs, and pretty steady 272.80 hitter.
3:55:36
And again, like you said they needed a lot of them to get the
3:55:38
depth in that lineup going because a lot of the kids have
3:55:41
gotten heard I was the pictures got hurt so they needed more
3:55:43
from their lineup as well, but just a really pretty steady in a
3:55:46
Dodgers. Outfield that outside of bets is
3:55:49
really had a lot of rotation with that.
3:55:51
I've said they waved Chris Taylor but they've kind of
3:55:54
platoon that position a lot. But now, pot has emerges, as a
3:55:57
full-time starter I was a backup much of the year last year.
3:56:01
All right, and let's finish this up.
3:56:02
Let's talk about the two old men.
3:56:05
Harold. Jacob degrom had a no-hitter
3:56:07
into the 8th yesterday. He seems to be quite possibly
3:56:11
all the way back. Finally, from all those
3:56:14
injuries. He suffered this season.
3:56:16
Listen to this three war three point.
3:56:18
Oh Ward 8 and 2 record 2.08 era. 16 games, 16 games started. 95
3:56:27
Innings. 94 strikeouts point eight.
3:56:31
Eight one win. It sounds like he's back.
3:56:35
Well, I love Jacob DeGraw. And he deserves all the credit
3:56:38
in the world? Coming back?
3:56:39
Two years. It took a moment, two and a half
3:56:42
years to get back to where he is.
3:56:43
If he could just stay healthy, if the Rangers make the
3:56:47
playoffs, how scary is that rotation going to be two guys.
3:56:51
Two guys that have done it before and it's done in the
3:56:54
playoffs and Nathan of Aldi too. Just think about that.
3:56:57
You have Jacob degrom and Nathan of Aldi, as you want to punch in
3:57:03
the playoffs scary. And I think the Rangers could
3:57:06
make if they sneak in as a while car because it probably not
3:57:09
gonna win the division, it's still early.
3:57:10
I dare that they're probably more scary than any team right
3:57:14
now in the American League with that.
3:57:15
I gotta figure out their offense that been Kansas City have like
3:57:18
really League bad offenses. Their pitching are so good.
3:57:21
Collectively. Yeah and the only other thing I
3:57:24
want to talk about is Clayton. Kershaw job said it five
3:57:27
strikeouts away from 3,000. He's been pitching well since
3:57:32
he's coming back this time one hit one run ball.
3:57:35
His last started, very exciting player.
3:57:37
He's a Surefire first ballot Hall of Famer.
3:57:40
I I want to, you know, were you that still there when CeCe got
3:57:46
3000? Uh, no, I had just I just left.
3:57:52
but yeah, I mean, I saw a bunch of seas accomplishments, but
3:57:57
yeah, I It's crazy. We'll probably never see it
3:58:01
again just because guys aren't gonna stay around long enough
3:58:03
because the contracts are so crazy.
3:58:07
I don't know if we're, there might be one or two, sprinkle in
3:58:10
there, but I don't think there's going to be that many more and
3:58:13
You know, you've got two left-handers that have done it
3:58:15
in the last, you know, we just got one in the Hall of Fame and
3:58:17
you know, here probably seven years later, we'll have another
3:58:21
one. So yeah, I think some of these
3:58:24
you know, wins and strikeouts are going to Be sprinkled in,
3:58:29
but I just don't think a lot of guys are going to pitch long
3:58:31
enough anymore just with the money.
3:58:32
That's that's being made. All right, and boys that wraps
3:58:37
up another great rendition of inside.
3:58:40
Baseball Cody. What are your thoughts to that,
3:58:42
too? What were your thoughts to that?
3:58:45
What? Clayton Kershaw.
3:58:49
The Hall of Famer. That's not even a question.
3:58:53
He's one of the best pictures of Our Generation.
3:58:55
I mean, one of the best curveball he's at he is Mr.
3:58:58
Dodge. Her like, I mean, He just need.
3:59:01
He just needs to get it done the postseason, but I don't and one
3:59:05
of the greatest dudes ever. Yeah, I mean, he saw his hat,
3:59:08
you know, thought that was pretty cool of him to do. but
3:59:13
yeah, I mean, he'll get his, he'll get his 3,000 and You
3:59:18
know, I think this this should probably be his last year.
3:59:21
I don't foresee him pitching again after this and right off
3:59:24
into the sunset. And I'm sure he'll find his way
3:59:27
in the booth or Maybe I made up job that they make up.
3:59:32
They're probably a specialist assistant.
3:59:34
Those guys are like, the Albert pools is the Ireland is like
3:59:37
those guys are Those guys are your face, your franchise for a
3:59:41
long time and so you want to keep them around to teach the
3:59:44
younger generation, how to go how to pitch for 30 years.
3:59:47
I was a position for him and paid and deferred money.
3:59:51
Oh 100%. Did you guys remember what Joe
3:59:54
Torrey said about, Clayton Kershaw when he took over and he
3:59:58
managed them. I remember him saying, Clayton
4:00:00
Kershaw, as the best pitcher he's ever coached.
4:00:02
He's in ever managed in his career and you were talking
4:00:05
about some great pictures over there with the New York Yankees
4:00:09
and he went out there and said, Clayton Kershaw is filthy, I
4:00:13
remember I remember that. So and he was like 10 years or
4:00:17
whatever his first, like, his first five or six seasons.
4:00:21
He had like a one. Something I remember looking at
4:00:23
it up. It was absolutely ridiculous.
4:00:25
How good? I'm like, how good his numbers
4:00:27
were? They made.
4:00:29
It was like, It's very much video game numbers, you're just
4:00:33
looking at them and you're like, how are you?
4:00:35
Same thing with every game too, right?
4:00:37
The guy went deep in every game started, when he was young
4:00:39
Electric. He's just getting it's all the
4:00:42
time is winning and that's just the way it is.
4:00:44
But he's got his championships. He's got his he's got all the
4:00:47
accolades and and now he's gonna get to 3000 and right off into
4:00:51
the sunset. And then come back as a Special
4:00:53
Assistant. What they all do.
4:00:58
So we all try to do, only only the great, get it though, I
4:01:02
guess. All right ladies and gentlemen
4:01:04
we do this every single week. We call this analytics ladies
4:01:08
and gentlemen now it's analytics, everybody together.
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Go ahead and say his penis vagina vagina.
4:01:21
Of course, Nathan's, not here again.
4:01:23
Well, nothing just is a little afraid of analytics.
4:01:29
A quality educational experience, guys.
4:01:33
Welcome back to everyone's favorite game show.
4:01:35
It, is once again, Speedy versus Errol nithin backing out of the
4:01:40
challenge once again, as he is want to do, but we are going.
4:01:44
If you haven't watched the game, it's very simple.
4:01:46
Each one of them will have a mystery term, they have to solve
4:01:49
whoever solves in the fewest amount of Clues is the winner.
4:01:52
They do have to use it correctly in a sentence.
4:01:54
The sentence is the tiebreaker there's a catch though, these
4:01:58
are analytical terms so Errol is not exactly the sports
4:02:03
analytical Guru. He's more of an eye test,
4:02:06
traditionalist type of fan, right?
4:02:09
We know He Is, We are fans of this show.
4:02:11
We know the type of fan arrow is, it's not the sports MIT nerd
4:02:16
Guru type Speedy. On the other hand does know all
4:02:19
these terms so he'll be asking Errol a sports.
4:02:25
On the other hand, as Ariel just demonstrated.
4:02:29
Is not going to get that term Speedy's going to get.
4:02:31
Yeah. He did use some early only
4:02:36
farted, only nothing like this. Yum yum.
4:02:39
I tried to kill you up for Speedy that I tried to kill him
4:02:43
up for a job for it. I have no woody That's not bad.
4:02:48
Either way speed is getting a sexual innuendo breaking news.
4:02:51
Yes. To solve it good.
4:02:53
He has no woody. Breaking news practicing.
4:03:03
I don't even know what that last one.
4:03:04
I was a new one. I think we can do with, like,
4:03:09
75%. I want to hit it.
4:03:13
Not that one. I like that one.
4:03:15
All right, are you boys? Ready with himself, Speedy?
4:03:20
Let's get the reveal of the sports.
4:03:23
Analytical term of the night. All right, so we got football
4:03:26
this week. It is a d o t or adopt.
4:03:31
ADOT. This is a good one.
4:03:35
I know that. Add o t a DOT.
4:03:46
Something with offense. It is, it is yes, it's used in
4:03:49
offense that's not the all. But it is an offensive term.
4:03:56
Whereas what you'll have for Speedy is in offensive term, I
4:04:00
do not very much. Got it, don't know.
4:04:04
All right. Arrow is going to pass on the
4:04:08
first one. I could find what I did with.
4:04:10
The buzzer, here it is. All right, time to flip the
4:04:15
script though. And arrow.
4:04:17
We need for this wild, guess round the reveal.
4:04:20
Of the analytical term, you're ready, I don't know, but nothing
4:04:26
it might be hard. All right, here it is Speedy.
4:04:28
Hmm, the Muppet. All right, Speedy, you got it.
4:04:42
Yep. concept of having. Sex, while singing freaking.
4:04:57
Sesame Street, too. Now, now that's not right,
4:05:13
Speedy, it's a great effort. You always give 110%.
4:05:16
That's why we care so much and love you.
4:05:17
We're going to go back the other direction, though.
4:05:20
It's time for the first clue for a dot.
4:05:24
Yeah. So it's a receiver receivers and
4:05:26
tight ends. I guess you can run backs to
4:05:28
technically get it but more receivers and tight ends.
4:05:30
So the deals with How long? Like a catch is type of thing.
4:05:39
So a is a term for like, just a middle.
4:05:43
And then T, the t is specific, like a rep for a quarterback.
4:05:49
A t, is that for a wide receiver or a tight end?
4:05:54
Not your best clue. but the script is, and the D.
4:06:00
The D we say in sports, like if you have a lot of good players
4:06:04
you have good. That's good.
4:06:07
D is what he's saying. Good dude, baby.
4:06:10
Good D. I've got good team.
4:06:15
That's right. I love that.
4:06:22
How you got that? Good.
4:06:28
I've got good DP. Congratulations cumber.
4:06:32
Combo. Lulu.
4:06:34
All right. I need a full guess for this
4:06:37
round. I don't know.
4:06:39
I got good date night. All right, let's you guys final
4:06:43
match. That is wrong, I guess, but
4:06:45
let's send it back the other way.
4:06:46
Let's get our next clue. for the, for the Analytical term
4:06:53
Errol. All right.
4:06:56
A guy. Does this to a woman?
4:07:02
With the part. Of his upper body.
4:07:07
Upper body. All right, so I guess it has to
4:07:19
be his mouth. This is the grossest one that
4:07:22
you've ever picked. The Muppet the Muppet.
4:07:29
Yeah, I had to type in more search words.
4:07:35
Than normal. I never heard of this one, I'll
4:07:38
be right back. He's Yeah, you might you might
4:07:41
have a good reason to leave for this one.
4:07:45
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go with a time.
4:07:46
I'm going with a tongue. Say.
4:07:51
Pung. up tongue into Like Java. It's disgusting.
4:08:05
The mouth. Oh I know.
4:08:09
Yeah, that sounds like a bomb about to destruct.
4:08:11
Yeah, that sounds like here. The mouth.
4:08:13
Let's the tongue into let's say, Shut your blood sugar fish.
4:08:21
Yeah, it's the alarm that says the show's gone on too long
4:08:25
deep, deep into the throat. It's definitely deep.
4:08:35
I really have to give him really good.
4:08:38
This is very involved. I'm gonna help All right, let's
4:08:44
look at the other way. We got a DOT as the analytical
4:08:48
term speed to give him a clue, all right?
4:08:49
So if you're trying to shoot something, you're trying to aim
4:08:54
for a That's the T. And then a is.
4:09:01
Not high not low. Somewhere in between is
4:09:04
considered a high, not low. Yep.
4:09:07
So like another term for middle like something like that.
4:09:11
Is the a So, I got death, it's good.
4:09:18
Yep. So yes you got the good deeds.
4:09:21
So what was the date? So if you're shooting at
4:09:23
something, you're aiming for a Target Target.
4:09:25
Yep, that's correct. So, you have depth of Target.
4:09:30
What's the a What was that? Was cool.
4:09:35
So, not not high, not low, somewhere.
4:09:38
In the middle, would be considered.
4:09:42
It's pretty good clue. Not high, not low.
4:09:46
Dude. No, we're not low.
4:09:54
How low can you go? All right.
4:09:59
I can give you I could get you spot on here.
4:10:02
All right. Good.
4:10:03
You want to give the you can give the last clue.
4:10:05
What? All right, but he's baseball
4:10:08
batting. Average.
4:10:15
Good. Do you wins partially Errol, put
4:10:20
it all together? Average depth of Target.
4:10:25
But here's the deal. You know how this game works?
4:10:27
I get two chances on this because I get another round,
4:10:30
right? No, no, you're winning, you've
4:10:33
solved. It in two Clues, Speedy needs to
4:10:35
solve it and have a better tiebreaking sentence.
4:10:38
Then the one you're like, getting up, I don't even tell
4:10:42
them up in this. The only thing I know is, if I
4:10:45
do somehow get it and if it'll be incorporated into the
4:10:47
sentence, if there's anyone who would attempt to do this, it's
4:10:52
nothing phases. I have some ideas but this is
4:10:56
absurd. I just don't know if the Blow
4:11:02
Pop will be used. I don't know if it'll be the
4:11:04
least, I don't know, just know what methodology listen upper
4:11:07
body. This is all I can get like
4:11:11
Muppet. Yeah, we're all gonna give you a
4:11:15
clue on this home, Speedy ready. I think, but errol's give them
4:11:18
his last clue. Here it is.
4:11:22
A man, okay. You got a man.
4:11:25
We got it. He uses something of His arm,
4:11:32
it's out of his arm. And he sticks it somewhere.
4:11:39
To lift. A woman. and then, while he's
4:11:50
doing that, he's having some kind of in accordance.
4:11:59
Doing something else. So using I think that's good,
4:12:04
that's good. That's and we pants a minded
4:12:08
pretty well over here goody and I so I think we're good here,
4:12:10
speedy. Speedy.
4:12:15
A little something extra. Speedy.
4:12:24
I'll just say after you you get into the the Muppet part.
4:12:29
You get a little hand. No, I get you're doing the
4:12:32
you're doing like the puppet concept, like trying to raise
4:12:35
it, but I'm just trying to figure out where he do that
4:12:38
again. Can you do that again with you?
4:12:44
And I have to take a pretty strong guy or like a pretty
4:12:46
small girl. Yeah, so you're not doing the
4:12:49
Muppet, I didn't do anything. Wrist curls, you know, you can,
4:12:54
you can get there, you gotta get it, you gotta get it embedded.
4:12:59
Yeah. Just think about.
4:13:02
So get the first thing first. Yeah, I got the I got the
4:13:05
motion. I'm trying to figure out what
4:13:07
your Body. That's two places.
4:13:11
You can really throw it in. I would say it utilizes, both
4:13:16
orifices. Oh, it's the double up.
4:13:24
The one I'm reading. Know, it's crazy.
4:13:30
Are you talking about the Puppet Master?
4:13:44
Yeah, I don't know if the if the oh if a third party gets
4:13:51
involved. Oh, they are the Puppet Master
4:13:54
job. I didn't click on the second
4:13:56
part of that. Is you write?
4:13:58
That is so. Did you read the sentence for
4:14:03
this one that gave you? Oh my God.
4:14:08
Master puppets is one of the best.
4:14:10
The best heavy metal songs ever, in my opinion and I don't even
4:14:17
want you guys Speedy. We need it.
4:14:19
We need I yeah I don't even want to know what body part they're
4:14:22
gonna be doing it, but I'll go with vagina.
4:14:24
I think you can make an educated guess my body.
4:14:27
Think about it and explain yourself, really not that.
4:14:40
Show everybody how you do it. I don't know how to
4:14:53
okay, you got it right? What else?
4:14:56
Wild wild? What's your lifting?
4:15:00
It like that. so while you're freaking driving your dick in
4:15:04
and then having sex and then Driving your dick in the powers,
4:15:16
combined Speedy, so drive the dick in the vagina.
4:15:20
And then that's, that's called sex.
4:15:22
And then I don't know, swiveling the like doing so the the puppet
4:15:30
in hands. I don't.
4:15:36
I'm gonna give it to him. That's a lot better than I
4:15:38
thought. Yeah.
4:15:41
It's pretty, dang clothes. So what?
4:15:44
What is the master of puppet? What is the puppet now.
4:15:47
What's the Muppet Show? Or whatever we're doing?
4:15:49
All right. All right here.
4:15:50
I have to do it in like a stupid Arrow.
4:15:52
You gotta read this. All right?
4:15:53
Ridiculously active. Reaching up your female Partners
4:15:57
ass while you're having vaginal vaginal intercourse and jerking
4:16:03
your soul or vaginal vaginal vagina.
4:16:07
Vaginal. Yes, sure, it's vagina.
4:16:09
Okay, vagina, you want me to say badge?
4:16:11
You That's oh my gosh. Okay.
4:16:16
Okay what is a badge? I'm speedie use it.
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Finish finish the definition for him.
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Tell him, tell him the rest of it, okay?
4:16:30
Some of the finishing. the masturbation is aspect, May Also
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be handled by a third party in which in case it's called The
4:16:41
Master of Puppets. Well, the Puppet Master.
4:16:44
Of Puppets. We wanted people to come up with
4:16:50
this stuff. My gosh, obviously, people with
4:16:53
brains, like, obviously, it's happened before. you know,
4:16:56
Speedy, I need you to use The Muppets correctly incentive.
4:17:02
That's the first time I ever heard of have to use it.
4:17:04
In a sense. Nothing with his trusty leash.
4:17:08
use WhatsApp onto a woman's hand with the Leaf Drive.
4:17:16
His Muppet hands. Into the woman and to the
4:17:20
woman's ass hole. Sucking on her Blow Pop.
4:17:27
Driving. is dick into the vagina with hot lady number 61 In his
4:17:34
ring, that is great. that's, That's a perfect answer.
4:17:42
I have no notes. I have no notes.
4:17:46
Drama. Drama Ludo, Carl plays with
4:17:50
himself. That was, I don't know.
4:17:53
I'm just gonna call it right here.
4:17:55
The Speedy Petey your tonight's winner of Analytics.
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I would talk to you would get this one, right?
4:18:08
That is the greatest. By the way, every time Nathan
4:18:17
doesn't show up for this segment, I'm going to use him.
4:18:19
At you said. I think he likes Spanish.
4:18:25
I like anal. Finally, use that.
4:18:27
That's a drop. I was waiting to Signal before.
4:18:31
Fish wears panties. On the shiter.
4:18:38
Just a great voice. Yeah.
4:18:41
All right. Thank you to TJ Walker Joyce.
4:18:47
He was fantastic. Congratulations to Mr. Goody as
4:18:52
he is doing his first Guardian, post-game and pregame show.
4:18:55
So looking forward to checking that out on Saturday and his
4:19:00
first color with the guardian too.
4:19:01
So you'll be doing a couple of those this coming season with
4:19:05
Colorado and all the other games that he's going to be doing
4:19:08
with. So congratulations to all boy,
4:19:10
Nick. Goody tell Andre not, he can.
4:19:13
Suck it. I will I love him.
4:19:16
By the way, he's the best. I love him, too.
4:19:18
I'll tell him. He's awesome.
4:19:21
Again, thank you. Thank you to teacher ward.
4:19:23
He was fantastic for the time that he gave us.
4:19:25
I know, he's a busy dude. So thank you to him.
4:19:27
And he's, he has his own agencies doing all these great
4:19:31
things. Since he's walked away from the
4:19:32
game of football, thank you to all the fans and by the way, we
4:19:35
do have apple video with Speedy didn't really give us any
4:19:39
information. So we do have apple video ladies
4:19:42
and gentlemen. So you can check us out on Apple
4:19:45
video Spotify video, Apple audio Spotify audio on tiktok on
4:19:52
Facebook, on Instagram on X on YouTube, Jabba in the mouth.
4:19:59
Thank you to all the fans tuning in and checking us out on all
4:20:02
the social medias and all the different platforms where we are
4:20:05
on Speedy. What do we have next week?
4:20:08
We have so Nathan had a guest for Thursday, but if we're
4:20:11
moving to Wednesday, we'll see if he comes on.
4:20:12
Otherwise, I don't have anything.
4:20:13
Yes, who was gonna be Bengals and X Bengals and Titans
4:20:16
receiver Carl Pickens. I'm sure he will.
4:20:18
Yeah, I'm sure Reschedule for one of those days, I don't have
4:20:22
anyone else at the moment. I actually have two guests
4:20:24
already scheduled for the week after already.
4:20:26
Oh yeah, who's that. So we have a Knicks guy Ben
4:20:28
Lyons. Oh man.
4:20:30
Yep. So Ben will be joining us on.
4:20:31
That's good man, he's one of the better Nick writers.
4:20:34
Yes, he'll be joining us on Monday at 9:00 and then
4:20:37
returning the show on Thursday will be our friend Phoenix Suns,
4:20:40
and Dallas Cowboys broadcaster. Kevin Ray will be joining us at
4:20:43
9. Oh, Kevin's.
4:20:45
Finally, joining us again. I'm sure he has his own opinion
4:20:48
about his Phoenix Suns. That'll be fun.
4:20:51
He's actually, he's the Cowboys play by play guy on the radio.
4:20:55
He is. He is honest to.
4:20:57
He's honest. Most honest person when it comes
4:21:00
to Cowboys football. So he's not gonna be around the
4:21:03
bush with the Cowboys and I'm sure he has his thoughts to the
4:21:06
organization. And what they did at this year's
4:21:08
draft, which everybody thinks they had a good draft.
4:21:11
I thought they did actually. Yeah, so it'll be interesting.
4:21:13
So anyways, again, thank you to all the fans.
4:21:16
Thank you to everybody keep tuning in.
4:21:17
We will be on next week, Tuesday, and Wednesday.
4:21:20
And we're moving our show the week after now on and we're
4:21:25
staying out that way Mondays and Wednesdays moving forward as the
4:21:30
football, season is moving closer and closer until then
4:21:35
this is Arrow Jabba, Nick fish. Tommy speedy and all you
4:21:42
mongrels and all our interns Zach.
4:21:45
Aaron Jake. Everybody.
4:21:47
We'll be back next week. Good night everybody.
4:21:49
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