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- 0:14Speaker 4: This these Cowboys storylines with Nick Eapman.
- 0:21Speaker 1: What is up?
- 0:22Speaker 5: It is time for another edition of Cowboys storyline? But
- 0:25Speaker 5: this is a special edition. Of course, there is a
- 0:28Speaker 5: show called special edition, but this isn't it. This is
- 0:30Speaker 5: Cowboys Storyline. We're Darren Woodson today. I said, I kind
- 0:34Speaker 5: of teased it last night. I was like, you know what,
- 0:36Speaker 5: any other player I would have been like, I'm not
- 0:38Speaker 5: going to.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Tease it and say the name because you never know
- 0:41Speaker 1: a schedule.
- 0:41Speaker 5: But your schedule is so busy all the time that
- 0:45Speaker 5: you can stick to it that I knew that you
- 0:47Speaker 5: would be here and be here on time early, like
- 0:50Speaker 5: always Darren Woodson, Man, what's up?
- 0:52Speaker 6: No man, I'm happy to be here, Nick.
- 0:54Speaker 7: I mean, I'm right here in the office, right here
- 0:58Speaker 7: at the Star.
- 0:58Speaker 6: So I see you every other day and all.
- 1:00Speaker 1: But at the same time, like you walking back and forth.
- 1:03Speaker 6: Yeah, we got business man, we got business to take
- 1:05Speaker 6: care of.
- 1:05Speaker 5: And you and you're you're always on the move, like
- 1:07Speaker 5: very quick, You're every time I see you, it's like whoa, whoa, Hey,
- 1:10Speaker 5: it's the same.
- 1:11Speaker 6: It's the same here, like, look, you needed me here
- 1:12Speaker 6: at a certain time. Guess what here?
- 1:14Speaker 7: And I'm that guy much like the guys I played
- 1:18Speaker 7: with is you know, we're still kind of have that
- 1:20Speaker 7: anxiety be about being late, really because being late when
- 1:24Speaker 7: you're in the NFL costed you an And I was
- 1:27Speaker 7: here for thirteen years, never was late for a meeting
- 1:29Speaker 7: because I had so much anxiety about showing up, not
- 1:32Speaker 7: being there on time, and parcels or Jimmy just railing
- 1:36Speaker 7: you for being late.
- 1:37Speaker 6: It's just it's still a part of me. Man I
- 1:39Speaker 6: got to be early, was Michael. Oh, but look there's.
- 1:43Speaker 7: There's a few guys and Jimmy said, I'm not gonna
- 1:44Speaker 7: treat everybody equal. Yeah, you know, if you guys, hey,
- 1:47Speaker 7: look you're late, I'll get at you, get after you.
- 1:49Speaker 5: But you know, my favorite story of that is Bill
- 1:51Speaker 5: Parcells call I mean John Madden called Terrell Owens to
- 1:55Speaker 5: check the tire guy. He said, if some players are late,
- 1:58Speaker 5: you're like, who's late? And it's some third cornerback or
- 2:00Speaker 5: fifth cornerback and you're like, let's go relievingly, who's late?
- 2:03Speaker 5: T o You're like, you tell that guy, hey, go
- 2:05Speaker 5: outside and check the tires and see if everything's good.
- 2:07Speaker 1: You know, he's a check you know.
- 2:09Speaker 7: I have a Michael Irban story for Jimmy about Jimmy Johnson.
- 2:12Speaker 6: We flew up the Detroit.
- 2:13Speaker 7: We flew up the Detroit and Michael Irvin had started
- 2:16Speaker 7: every game. He had this this starting streak going on,
- 2:19Speaker 7: and he was late for the plane to go to Detroit.
- 2:23Speaker 7: And Jimmy, you know, Jimmy, Jimmy's like, we're not waiting
- 2:27Speaker 7: on anybody.
- 2:27Speaker 6: He can catch a flight up right.
- 2:29Speaker 7: So, long story short, Mike got up there on his
- 2:33Speaker 7: own account and figured out a way to get to Detroit.
- 2:35Speaker 6: Jimmy didn't start him, broke his streak.
- 2:39Speaker 7: And it was I remember Michael Irvin being in the
- 2:41Speaker 7: hallway tears in his eyes because he was so disappointed
- 2:44Speaker 7: that he let us down, that the streak was done
- 2:47Speaker 7: and that Jimmy was on him. And we felt like, okay,
- 2:51Speaker 7: well he's not going to start. He may not play tomorrow.
- 2:53Speaker 6: One game, one play, next play comes in. Guess who
- 2:57Speaker 6: walks in Michael v So he just you know, it's
- 3:00Speaker 6: a lesson to be liked.
- 3:00Speaker 5: But what's funny though, you say lesson to be learned
- 3:03Speaker 5: I started. I started traveling in nineteen ninety nine. When
- 3:06Speaker 5: I got in there, I was in the back sort
- 3:08Speaker 5: of is where my seat was, and it was we
- 3:10Speaker 5: leave at one o'clock and everybody had like their dollar
- 3:13Speaker 5: a dollar out and it.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Was one O four.
- 3:14Speaker 5: They would say one O eight, one O two fifty nine,
- 3:18Speaker 5: and I didn't know what was going on. And I
- 3:19Speaker 5: finally realized they were betting when Michaels show up to
- 3:22Speaker 5: show up, yes, So that was seven years later. He
- 3:24Speaker 5: still was kind of doing his thing. All right, this
- 3:27Speaker 5: is gonna be a little different show. We can still
- 3:29Speaker 5: get the callers. We're gonna just talk about whatever. And
- 3:32Speaker 5: if we play this game sometimes we throw out random guys.
- 3:35Speaker 5: Random players throw something out to Darren because I did
- 3:37Speaker 5: it earlier, and you could tell he hadn't thought about
- 3:39Speaker 5: some of these guys and forever.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's fun, all right.
- 3:42Speaker 5: Another tradition we have on this show already is Joe
- 3:45Speaker 5: in Stamford, Texas. Joe's always the first caller. So Joe,
- 3:49Speaker 5: what's up, man, No doubt, how you DOINGO.
- 4:01Speaker 8: Man, I'm thrilled to talk to you, sir. I got
- 4:03Speaker 8: to say it this morning. I work in the evening.
- 4:06Speaker 8: So I wake up just for Nick's show, and I
- 4:09Speaker 8: wasn't gonna wake up today. Man, I was tired. And
- 4:13Speaker 8: I looked at the tweet and I saw what it said,
- 4:16Speaker 8: and I got up so quick I stubbed my toe
- 4:19Speaker 8: on the dresser. I was like, oh, man, I'm getting
- 4:22Speaker 8: to this phone. So I'm glad to talk to you.
- 4:25Speaker 8: So my question for you, sir, what do you think
- 4:29Speaker 8: affected you guys not winning as many Super Bowls as
- 4:34Speaker 8: you did? What you won three? And it's awesome, I'm
- 4:36Speaker 8: not saying that, but do you think free agency, which
- 4:40Speaker 8: started I think in ninety three, or do you think
- 4:42Speaker 8: it was losing Jimmy.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Thanks Joe, thanks for the call.
- 4:45Speaker 6: That's great, that's a great question.
- 4:48Speaker 7: More and Joe, I think I believe it was both. Look,
- 4:51Speaker 7: first of all, you had Jimmy, who was the pillar
- 4:55Speaker 7: of this this organization at the time. Look, and no
- 4:58Speaker 7: offense to Jerry. Jerry, you know, signed the checks. But
- 5:02Speaker 7: Jerry was busy with doing a lot of corporate things
- 5:05Speaker 7: outside of the organization. Jimmy ran the day to day personnel.
- 5:11Speaker 7: He brought in guys, he cut players, he drafted the players,
- 5:15Speaker 7: and he didn't have to second gaze. I guess anybody
- 5:18Speaker 7: or take it to Jerry or anyone else to make
- 5:21Speaker 7: those decisions, it was he made the decisions personnel wise.
- 5:24Speaker 1: You're saying, I'm not saying, well, I'm just.
- 5:27Speaker 6: Telling you I just the way, just wanted to be
- 5:29Speaker 6: clear who's.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Saying that this is me?
- 5:31Speaker 7: I mean, I just felt like at that time and
- 5:33Speaker 7: that moment, you know, Jerry, look, Jerry's greatest owner of
- 5:35Speaker 7: all time for all that he's done. But if we
- 5:37Speaker 7: were talking about what took place in the early nineties,
- 5:41Speaker 7: Jimmy did a lot of made a lot of.
- 5:43Speaker 6: Those personnel decisions.
- 5:44Speaker 7: So when when when Jimmy left, I thought the first
- 5:48Speaker 7: thing that really happened to us was we didn't draft
- 5:51Speaker 7: that well in the later rounds, So you weren't picking
- 5:53Speaker 7: up the Leon Letts and the Eric Williams and those
- 5:57Speaker 7: type of guys. And I think that that part of
- 6:00Speaker 7: it really hurt us. And it was at the same
- 6:02Speaker 7: time where free agency was pilling that pilling us back
- 6:05Speaker 7: at the same time, I mean, we were losing guys,
- 6:09Speaker 7: uh we you know guys that were you know, the
- 6:12Speaker 7: Kenny Gantz of the worlds who end up going to
- 6:14Speaker 7: Tampa you know, we couldn't backfill those those players, and
- 6:17Speaker 7: I can't tell you. I mean we always talked about
- 6:19Speaker 7: the star players. Yeah, you have star players, but when
- 6:22Speaker 7: you have a personnel, the guys that really understand their
- 6:25Speaker 7: role within the scheme and within the team, that's when
- 6:29Speaker 7: you become a championship team. And we lost those guys,
- 6:31Speaker 7: We lost those small players, and you started losing the
- 6:33Speaker 7: step Navskis of the world and those type of guys,
- 6:36Speaker 7: and we just didn't do enough to backfill that, and
- 6:39Speaker 7: things started.
- 6:40Speaker 6: To get a lot looser.
- 6:41Speaker 7: Yeah, in the end, Look, Jimmy, Jimmy ran a tough program,
- 6:44Speaker 7: he really did. And you know, we had a lot
- 6:47Speaker 7: of crazy personalities as you can, as you well know.
- 6:50Speaker 7: But Jimmy did a great job of putting his thumb
- 6:52Speaker 7: on us, knowing how we were going to operate, when
- 6:56Speaker 7: to take his thumb off of us.
- 6:57Speaker 6: So, you know, I think it was a little bit
- 6:59Speaker 6: of both. But yeah, there's a tough time, man, it
- 7:02Speaker 6: really was.
- 7:03Speaker 7: I firmly feel if Jimmy Johnson was still the head coach,
- 7:06Speaker 7: we would at least.
- 7:07Speaker 6: Four straight.
- 7:11Speaker 1: You're the only You're then that didn't sit.
- 7:14Speaker 6: Well with you.
- 7:14Speaker 7: Well, you know, there's a little nerves there when I
- 7:17Speaker 7: when I when, I mean, you talk.
- 7:19Speaker 5: About that kind of stuff. Yeah, uh there. You're the
- 7:23Speaker 5: only player in Cowboys history to play for five different
- 7:26Speaker 5: head coaches. And you know, I don't know if that's
- 7:29Speaker 5: gonna change. Honestly, you might. That might last for a while,
- 7:33Speaker 5: because I do know the Cowboys don't really want to
- 7:36Speaker 5: change out coaches that quickly because the continuity and players
- 7:39Speaker 5: switch out a lot more so it's gonna be hard
- 7:41Speaker 5: to stay. But from Jimmy Johnson to Switzer to cham
- 7:45Speaker 5: Gaily to Dave camp Bill Parcels and Parcels. I talked
- 7:49Speaker 5: to him a year ago. He said, if I would
- 7:52Speaker 5: have had Darreon Woodson longer, I promise you he's already
- 7:56Speaker 5: been cam O.
- 7:57Speaker 6: Absolutely yeah, I'd say that all day long.
- 7:59Speaker 7: Look, and if we were gonna lose Jimmy back then,
- 8:01Speaker 7: I would you know, Look, a guy like Parsales coming
- 8:04Speaker 7: in would have been you know, we probably wouldn't have
- 8:06Speaker 7: missed the beat. We probably would have continued to win.
- 8:08Speaker 7: But here's the deal. Parsales came in in my eleventh year,
- 8:12Speaker 7: I think it was in my eleventh year in the league.
- 8:15Speaker 7: I learned more in five months about the game of
- 8:20Speaker 7: football that I knew in those eleven years. I knew
- 8:24Speaker 7: how to He taught me, how to study. He taught me,
- 8:28Speaker 7: you know what the offenses or the quarterbacks were looking at,
- 8:32Speaker 7: how you know, just situational football during the week, how
- 8:35Speaker 7: to manage the clock, those type of I mean, it
- 8:37Speaker 7: was unbelievable about how much information that was poured into
- 8:41Speaker 7: me in a four month time period that I.
- 8:45Speaker 6: Just didn't know.
- 8:47Speaker 7: I was a shamed, almost seriously, Nick, I was ashamed
- 8:50Speaker 7: that I didn't know, being the captain of the defense,
- 8:53Speaker 7: that I didn't know these things. And I'm the one
- 8:56Speaker 7: who's talking, who's mentoring these younger guys. You know so well,
- 9:01Speaker 7: I can tell you, Man, if I would have had
- 9:02Speaker 7: him early on, yeah, I probably would have had that
- 9:04Speaker 7: gold jacket all you because he would allow he would
- 9:06Speaker 7: allow me to.
- 9:06Speaker 6: Play one position too. Yeah, okay, you'd allow me to
- 9:09Speaker 6: play one position.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.
- 9:10Speaker 5: We're gonna go to some more phone calls here, Brian
- 9:12Speaker 5: and Iowa. Brian, what's up?
- 9:14Speaker 1: Brian?
- 9:15Speaker 9: Hey, Nick, Darren, how's it going.
- 9:18Speaker 6: You guys doing great? Brian?
- 9:21Speaker 9: That's good. Well, first of all, I'm gonna say I
- 9:23Speaker 9: kind of feel like I'm at a toy store trying
- 9:26Speaker 9: to pick out my favorite toy with you there, Darren,
- 9:30Speaker 9: It's honor to even speak to you.
- 9:32Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 9:34Speaker 9: First of all, I only have one thing, but I
- 9:39Speaker 9: have two things down that you're here, Darren. But first
- 9:42Speaker 9: of all, my first ding is I'm gonna say about
- 9:45Speaker 9: the offensive line going into A three.
- 9:49Speaker 8: I feel more.
- 9:49Speaker 9: Confident about our depth position with Tyler being out for
- 9:55Speaker 9: the first two weeks. I still feel like there's improvement there.
- 10:00Speaker 9: And but I'm gonna say going forward, I feel confident
- 10:06Speaker 9: that if we need a starter to rest, I feel
- 10:11Speaker 9: like somebody could step in and a plug in for
- 10:17Speaker 9: a week or two if need to be like towards
- 10:21Speaker 9: the end of the season. But I still feel like
- 10:26Speaker 9: we might need add another piece to the offensive line
- 10:32Speaker 9: just for safety security, blanket for the trade deadline. But
- 10:38Speaker 9: also I'm gonna ask you, Darren, what would it be
- 10:43Speaker 9: like with Michael Parsons on the team of the ninety
- 10:47Speaker 9: two ninety three defense that you plaid in alongside Charles
- 10:51Speaker 9: Tayley and Tony Tolbert, And what it would be like
- 10:54Speaker 9: with you alongside him doing the things that you did.
- 10:59Speaker 7: Man, look right, Thanks Brian, that's a great, great question,
- 11:02Speaker 7: and it was a TJ bast They did the filled
- 11:04Speaker 7: in this past week.
- 11:05Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, after you know, you don't get started and
- 11:08Speaker 5: then Bass filled in and filled in. Yeah, Zach Martin
- 11:10Speaker 5: went out too.
- 11:11Speaker 7: And I kind of agree with what you're saying, Ryan,
- 11:13Speaker 7: I think that, you know, you got to add depth
- 11:15Speaker 7: at that offensive line. I think what we're seeing defensively
- 11:17Speaker 7: is that they have a lot of depth, and bringing
- 11:19Speaker 7: guys off the bench has been, you know, been on
- 11:22Speaker 7: their strengths. I always, I always felt, continue to fill
- 11:27Speaker 7: you win games in the trenches, and if your offensive
- 11:29Speaker 7: line can block and you can get the running game
- 11:31Speaker 7: going throughout the season, you can always keep defenses off balance.
- 11:35Speaker 7: So yeah, depth at that position is is is what
- 11:38Speaker 7: they definitely need.
- 11:39Speaker 5: Before you answer the mic apart, I mean, because it's
- 11:42Speaker 5: a different era. Where does Mike play.
- 11:45Speaker 7: Everywhere anywhere that he wants to play, anywhere he wants
- 11:49Speaker 7: to play. Look, look, I'm the the old guy who's
- 11:53Speaker 7: not going to say, well, you know, these guys are
- 11:55Speaker 7: soft and these guys couldn't play with us.
- 11:57Speaker 6: Are you out of your minds?
- 11:59Speaker 7: The number number eleven could have played in any era
- 12:03Speaker 7: he would have started in any era and he would
- 12:05Speaker 7: have been the best player on the field.
- 12:06Speaker 6: I mean, he this guy.
- 12:10Speaker 7: It is amazing to watch Micah Parson's first step and
- 12:14Speaker 7: his awareness and his ability to attack the quarterback and
- 12:19Speaker 7: attack the tackle or the guard or what I.
- 12:22Speaker 6: Mean he is.
- 12:24Speaker 7: He is one of the most dominant players that I
- 12:27Speaker 7: can remember watching. I remember when Dion Sanders came in
- 12:30Speaker 7: and my first time coming in as a rookie, he
- 12:33Speaker 7: was in Atlanta and watching him walk around on the
- 12:35Speaker 7: field when it was with the Atlanta Falcons and going
- 12:39Speaker 7: what's all the hooplah?
- 12:40Speaker 6: Until I saw him and I was like, Okay, I
- 12:41Speaker 6: get it. Like his entire side of the field is
- 12:44Speaker 6: he's owning it.
- 12:46Speaker 1: That story you told me about his first practice or.
- 12:49Speaker 6: One of his first practices.
- 12:50Speaker 7: He shows up first practice and someone catches we were
- 12:54Speaker 7: doing one on ones and we have five five defensive
- 12:58Speaker 7: back on one side and on the other side you
- 12:59Speaker 7: have five defense the backs and you guys are going
- 13:01Speaker 7: one on one with the wife.
- 13:02Speaker 6: It's a quick drill.
- 13:03Speaker 7: He was like one after the other and someone they
- 13:06Speaker 7: run a quick five route on him and they complete
- 13:08Speaker 7: the pass and he walks to the sideline and all
- 13:11Speaker 7: the defensive backs who were supposed to go right after him,
- 13:14Speaker 7: he tells them, you go to the other side of
- 13:16Speaker 7: the field. I'm locking this stuff down over here. He
- 13:18Speaker 7: didn't see, but I'm locking this down over here. And
- 13:23Speaker 7: he basically took every rep, like ten straight reps and
- 13:28Speaker 7: locked it down like I've.
- 13:30Speaker 6: Never seen anything like it. Wow, nobody caught a ball
- 13:33Speaker 6: on that side.
- 13:34Speaker 7: He pressed, he played off, he did everything, and it
- 13:38Speaker 7: was just amazing to see. But he was one of
- 13:40Speaker 7: those those players h LT. Watching him with the Giants
- 13:46Speaker 7: early on, I just thought that he's he was a
- 13:49Speaker 7: childhood hero because he dominated the game right. Michael Parsons
- 13:53Speaker 7: is a guy, and I think we're starting to see
- 13:55Speaker 7: the maturation process. He came in his first year, he
- 13:58Speaker 7: was playing linebacker. He rushed here and there. Second year
- 14:02Speaker 7: kind of the same, probably use them more as the
- 14:04Speaker 7: defensive end and is a pass rusher. This year, you're
- 14:09Speaker 7: seeing him really mature as far as mentally in understanding
- 14:13Speaker 7: the game.
- 14:14Speaker 6: Like the game is.
- 14:15Speaker 7: Slowed all the way down for him. He knows what
- 14:18Speaker 7: he's doing. Uh, he doesn't have to think about anything.
- 14:22Speaker 7: He's playing multiple positions, which I just I that's what
- 14:24Speaker 7: I admire about that because I've done multiple positions and
- 14:27Speaker 7: it's dude, it's it's a it's a lot of work
- 14:30Speaker 7: because you're you have to transform your mind behind to go, Okay,
- 14:33Speaker 7: I'm playing safety this position and playing corner this position. Okay,
- 14:36Speaker 7: now I'm playing actually the will linebacker in this time.
- 14:38Speaker 7: You know, you got to the game. You're always thinking, thinking, think.
- 14:42Speaker 7: He's not thinking anymore. He's just being a football player.
- 14:45Speaker 7: And then they bring in depth and bringing Sam Williams
- 14:48Speaker 7: to spell them, and he sits on the sideline for
- 14:50Speaker 7: a few reps and doesn't get those reps, and he.
- 14:53Speaker 6: Gets energized, he gets mad. I want to be back
- 14:56Speaker 6: out there. He's got energy now.
- 14:57Speaker 7: And then he goes back out there and you give
- 14:59Speaker 7: him a straight player and that I just think this
- 15:00Speaker 7: guy's he's a joy to watch, man, He really is.
- 15:04Speaker 1: He sir is.
- 15:05Speaker 5: Yeah, He's one of those guys that when he's out
- 15:07Speaker 5: there on defense, I'm watching him from the press box,
- 15:11Speaker 5: you know the quarterbacks.
- 15:12Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so he could have played in any era any.
- 15:14Speaker 5: Are all right, Chris and Mississippi will go to the line, Chris,
- 15:18Speaker 5: what's up man?
- 15:19Speaker 10: How you doing?
- 15:20Speaker 11: Man? A Darren I just wanted to say thank you
- 15:23Speaker 11: so much. It means the world does cowboy fans to
- 15:26Speaker 11: have you guys take out of your day and come
- 15:29Speaker 11: out here and talk to us on the phone and
- 15:32Speaker 11: be just a great guy that you were and you
- 15:36Speaker 11: always have been, in my opinion, one of the greatest
- 15:40Speaker 11: Hall of Fame snubs ever, you and Eversince Walls. And
- 15:45Speaker 11: what I wanted to know was is does it ever
- 15:49Speaker 11: get to you when people compare other players to you?
- 15:52Speaker 11: And of these linebackers, who would you say that probably
- 15:57Speaker 11: had the most characteristics of you? I would probably say
- 16:01Speaker 11: would be my opinion. And Nick, one last thing for you.
- 16:05Speaker 11: I got to get off here before I lose service.
- 16:09Speaker 11: When we win the Super Bowl? Okay, will you please
- 16:12Speaker 11: promise me that you will do this show for three
- 16:14Speaker 11: or four hours to let us long suffering Cowboys and
- 16:18Speaker 11: to just rejoice with you of course, of course.
- 16:21Speaker 1: All right, man, all right, thanks Chris for the call.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 16:25Speaker 5: Probably in the offseason we're gonna have a little bit
- 16:27Speaker 5: longer show. But who knows, maybe maybe what you just
- 16:31Speaker 5: said will have happened to Who knows people compare players
- 16:36Speaker 5: to you?
- 16:37Speaker 8: Do they?
- 16:38Speaker 5: I mean, I haven't really heard that a lot. Honestly,
- 16:40Speaker 5: maybe I'm biased. I mean, we haven't had another Darren Windson.
- 16:45Speaker 6: Like that. I don't know on this roster. I think,
- 16:49Speaker 6: like if you.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Look at donovand Wilson is what he said.
- 16:52Speaker 6: Yeah, Wilson Curse.
- 16:55Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Curse comes the tight end a lot.
- 16:57Speaker 7: I see him motioning over and matching up.
- 17:00Speaker 5: I mean there's look, could Curse could curse Chase Down
- 17:03Speaker 5: the best wide receiver in the game.
- 17:04Speaker 7: I don't think you asked him to do that. I'm
- 17:05Speaker 7: not sure if he can, but that's not right they're
- 17:08Speaker 7: tasking him to do.
- 17:10Speaker 5: That's what made you so different because I've seen you
- 17:12Speaker 5: walk Jerry Rice down. I've seen you do that, seen
- 17:14Speaker 5: you cover Jerry. I've seen that. So it's just it's
- 17:18Speaker 5: a tough comparison, really is it is?
- 17:19Speaker 6: And I don't know.
- 17:21Speaker 7: Look, I remember coming into the league and there weren't
- 17:24Speaker 7: any safeties outside of Carnell Lake. Carnell Lake was a
- 17:26Speaker 7: guy with the Steelers who was a linebacker in college.
- 17:30Speaker 7: I went to it played safety and I watched him
- 17:33Speaker 7: cover wide receivers, whether it be outside or inside or whatnot.
- 17:37Speaker 7: And he was probably the first one, but he ended
- 17:40Speaker 7: up being a corner. They ended up just moving him
- 17:42Speaker 7: out there. I don't know if there.
- 17:45Speaker 6: Was a guy who did what I did.
- 17:46Speaker 7: I mean my entire career, I just I don't know,
- 17:49Speaker 7: played multiple positions like that. But I think there's some
- 17:51Speaker 7: players that that probably have the ability, they just weren't
- 17:54Speaker 7: asked to do it.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voters pay attention.
- 18:00Speaker 5: Wake up, Actually, yeah, wake up, because it's unbelievable. I agree,
- 18:03Speaker 5: one of the biggest snubs of in the history of it.
- 18:06Speaker 5: And uh, you know, I I think I think it's coming.
- 18:09Speaker 1: I really do.
- 18:09Speaker 10: I know.
- 18:10Speaker 1: I know you were there.
- 18:11Speaker 5: I know you were there last year, you were you
- 18:13Speaker 5: were closed to knock on the door. It looks like
- 18:15Speaker 5: safeties are getting in, so I think it's going to happen.
- 18:19Speaker 1: So all right, David and fort Worth. David, what's up?
- 18:22Speaker 8: Man?
- 18:22Speaker 1: You're on with Darren Woodson?
- 18:24Speaker 9: Yes, sir, Yes, sir.
- 18:25Speaker 2: How you doing, Nick?
- 18:26Speaker 8: How you doing?
- 18:27Speaker 6: Mister Woodson doing great?
- 18:28Speaker 1: David?
- 18:29Speaker 10: Awesome?
- 18:29Speaker 2: Awesome. Hey, I'll be quick because I know a lot
- 18:31Speaker 2: of people probably want to talk to you, but I
- 18:32Speaker 2: was just curious, sir, what's your take on our current
- 18:36Speaker 2: safeties right now? I mean for a long time I
- 18:39Speaker 2: played safety myself whenever I was in high school. Uh,
- 18:41Speaker 2: so close to going to the NFL, I just kind of.
- 18:43Speaker 9: Sucked so I didn't.
- 18:45Speaker 12: But uh, yeah, so we have well, I think we.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Have a three headed monster, maybe even developing four or five.
- 18:51Speaker 2: I mean, we have great safeties right now, and I
- 18:53Speaker 2: feel like it in recent years. Uh maybe not too recent,
- 18:56Speaker 2: but it's been a little bit of a weakness.
- 18:58Speaker 13: You know, we had.
- 18:59Speaker 2: Barry Church and Roy Williams, and I heard you were
- 19:01Speaker 2: pretty good yourself, sir. Yeah, but but now we got
- 19:04Speaker 2: like a like a to me, like a plessora of
- 19:06Speaker 2: great safety, and I just wanted to know your take
- 19:08Speaker 2: on them individually and then how you feel like they
- 19:10Speaker 2: do as a unit. Appreciate you so much for being
- 19:12Speaker 2: on the show. Appreciate you Nick every day for taking
- 19:15Speaker 2: my call.
- 19:15Speaker 8: You guys, have a wonderful day.
- 19:16Speaker 6: This is this is probably my favorite question today.
- 19:19Speaker 7: Yeah, because I've watched, Yes, I had to get my
- 19:21Speaker 7: class because I wanted to make sure I got everybody's
- 19:23Speaker 7: name on it because he's gotta have so many players
- 19:26Speaker 7: at that position. And when I talked, when we've talked
- 19:32Speaker 7: about the safety position here with the Cowboys, they were
- 19:35Speaker 7: really thin. They've always been thin in years past. This
- 19:38Speaker 7: is the deepest bunch. Like I'm trying to figure out,
- 19:40Speaker 7: who do you dress out?
- 19:41Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that when Donovan
- 19:43Speaker 1: comes back, I don't know what.
- 19:44Speaker 6: They're gonna Marquise Bell has showed, right.
- 19:48Speaker 1: Thomas, Yeah, funny field goal changed the whole whole game.
- 19:52Speaker 6: Yes, I mean you have.
- 19:53Speaker 7: I mean, of course you got cursed, you got and
- 19:56Speaker 7: who's the vocal leader and he can match up great matchup.
- 19:59Speaker 7: We know you got hooker in the middle of the field,
- 20:02Speaker 7: who's basically the quarterback of that defense.
- 20:05Speaker 6: And they just signed him, right, they signed him up. Yeah, So,
- 20:09Speaker 6: I mean the.
- 20:10Speaker 7: Depth at that position has been incredible, man. I think
- 20:13Speaker 7: that's one of the strengths of this team, and it
- 20:15Speaker 7: allows dan Quinn to do so much with the great
- 20:18Speaker 7: It's like this chess matchup. You know what this guy
- 20:21Speaker 7: does well, like when we bring him in in rundowns
- 20:24Speaker 7: or whatnot.
- 20:24Speaker 6: I just I am. I am so high on this group.
- 20:28Speaker 10: Man.
- 20:28Speaker 7: Look, I've been a pessimist about that position for the
- 20:31Speaker 7: longest time.
- 20:31Speaker 6: I always felt like the Cowboys didn't do enough well.
- 20:34Speaker 7: They've addressed the position and you know I'm always I'm
- 20:38Speaker 7: I'm I'm all the way in their corner. Man, I
- 20:40Speaker 7: think this is the best group of safeties in the league,
- 20:43Speaker 7: hands down, hands down, And it's not even close. It's
- 20:48Speaker 7: not even close. They can all play multiple positions. They
- 20:52Speaker 7: come up and make big plays, and we're not even
- 20:54Speaker 7: talking about like at the cover position, at the nickelback position.
- 20:58Speaker 7: When you got Jordan Lewis, who I mean, Jordan played
- 21:01Speaker 7: a little bit last week, didn't It was a scratch yeah,
- 21:04Speaker 7: the first week, right, I mean, the trade dead lines
- 21:09Speaker 7: coming up, I would not be surprised because there's value.
- 21:14Speaker 7: There's so much value in that room right now because
- 21:16Speaker 7: they can all play. Man, I don't know what's going
- 21:18Speaker 7: to happen. I'd like to keep them all. But in reality, man,
- 21:22Speaker 7: there's some there's some draft picks that are sitting there.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you're talking about making trade for a draft pick.
- 21:27Speaker 7: I wish, Paul, I would like to keep them all.
- 21:29Speaker 7: Of course, like they're all the toys.
- 21:31Speaker 6: Ready to do so much.
- 21:32Speaker 5: We got to let you go because I know that
- 21:34Speaker 5: you're so busy and we're going to take a break.
- 21:36Speaker 5: But I do want to ask you this. A lot
- 21:37Speaker 5: of fans have called in. They know this team is good.
- 21:41Speaker 5: They see what's out there in the schedule, they see
- 21:43Speaker 5: the forty nine ers games sitting there, got a couple
- 21:46Speaker 5: of games before, and I'm trying to I'm trying to
- 21:48Speaker 5: like hold them back, like you know what, let don't
- 21:50Speaker 5: want How tough is that as a player knowing that
- 21:56Speaker 5: there's this collision course with a team that knocked you
- 21:58Speaker 5: out two years.
- 21:59Speaker 1: In a row.
- 22:00Speaker 5: But you've got to focus on the Cardinals. You gotta
- 22:02Speaker 5: focus on the Patriots. Is that Is that a challenge,
- 22:04Speaker 5: especially with social media and all that kind of stuff.
- 22:06Speaker 6: Now, No, I don't think so.
- 22:08Speaker 7: I look, that's all that's the coaching staff issue to
- 22:12Speaker 7: deal with, right, That's not the players. The players are
- 22:13Speaker 7: always going. I was that same guy. I'd always circle
- 22:16Speaker 7: games and say, oh, we're gonna win this game. We're
- 22:17Speaker 7: gonna win that game.
- 22:19Speaker 6: Okay, here coming the Niners can't wait to see. I mean,
- 22:21Speaker 6: that's that's what we do.
- 22:22Speaker 7: It's just human nature to figure out, Okay, where's the
- 22:25Speaker 7: collision course. Who's that team that matches up with us?
- 22:27Speaker 7: I'm circling that game. The coach's job is to say, hey,
- 22:30Speaker 7: look we're gonna get there when we get there. Yeah,
- 22:33Speaker 7: the focus this week is Arizona and it starts on Monday.
- 22:37Speaker 7: The game's over with on Sunday, we can dap each
- 22:39Speaker 7: other up in the locker room. You go get a shower,
- 22:42Speaker 7: we might go get a drink after the you know
- 22:43Speaker 7: with the families.
- 22:45Speaker 6: Monday morning, you move on to the next game.
- 22:48Speaker 7: And that next game or the Arizona Cardinals, who are professionals,
- 22:51Speaker 7: they're a professional football team.
- 22:53Speaker 6: You got to go up there and win the game.
- 22:54Speaker 7: And the goal in this in this league, specifically for
- 22:57Speaker 7: this team, is to win the NFC East. You have
- 22:59Speaker 7: to take care of business week in and week out
- 23:02Speaker 7: when the NFC East.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Well, I know, your favorite team in the Pac twelve
- 23:06Speaker 5: is Arizona State because that's where.
- 23:07Speaker 6: You That's where I went to school.
- 23:08Speaker 1: You know, favorite your favorite head coach in the Pac twelve?
- 23:11Speaker 6: Oh Prime, that's my dude. Yeah close.
- 23:15Speaker 1: They play Arizona State.
- 23:16Speaker 7: Yes, on the October or six. Are you going, uh, yes,
- 23:20Speaker 7: I will be there.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Is it Boulder at it home?
- 23:22Speaker 7: No, it's at home Arizona State. Well, we're not, you know,
- 23:25Speaker 7: we're struggling. So now we have a well the next
- 23:27Speaker 7: couple of years on probation.
- 23:28Speaker 1: We just don't make it personal with the I gotta
- 23:31Speaker 1: make it personal.
- 23:31Speaker 6: He's gonna make it. He's already made it personal.
- 23:33Speaker 7: He's already called hey, you know we're gonna be down
- 23:35Speaker 7: there and yeah, so you know there's gonna be a
- 23:38Speaker 7: lot of trash.
- 23:38Speaker 6: I mean, I'll take it. Yeah, I'll take it.
- 23:40Speaker 1: That's fun.
- 23:41Speaker 6: It's all good. That's my dude.
- 23:43Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 23:43Speaker 1: Always.
- 23:44Speaker 5: I saw it at the at the UH at the
- 23:46Speaker 5: super Bowl when you were there and he was there
- 23:48Speaker 5: walking around.
- 23:49Speaker 6: You know what's the funnest thing about that? I know
- 23:51Speaker 6: you gotta go.
- 23:51Speaker 1: You're the one gotta go. I'll go all day long, okay,
- 23:54Speaker 1: but you gotta go.
- 23:55Speaker 7: So the funnest part of it is not so much Dion,
- 23:58Speaker 7: Like I love Dion, he's like my brother man. He's
- 24:00Speaker 7: just you know, he's for so much love into me
- 24:03Speaker 7: over the years and and and we have a great relationship.
- 24:07Speaker 7: The fun part is watching his kids, who I knew
- 24:11Speaker 7: from God.
- 24:12Speaker 6: They were running around.
- 24:14Speaker 7: Little snot nosed kids, your door and Shiloh, and you
- 24:17Speaker 7: know Bucky's doing all the video.
- 24:18Speaker 1: And liked a locker in the looker.
- 24:22Speaker 7: Absolutely next to you. Yes, yes, right, between he and I. Yeah,
- 24:27Speaker 7: that was his locker. Yeah, but I've watched those kids
- 24:31Speaker 7: all these years and he's he's always loved on those boys,
- 24:35Speaker 7: man and his daughter. He's loved on those kids so hard,
- 24:39Speaker 7: and no one really realizes how great a father he.
- 24:42Speaker 6: Was to those kids.
- 24:44Speaker 7: And for him to be coaching them at that level,
- 24:46Speaker 7: that's a dream.
- 24:47Speaker 6: That really is a dream. Man. So I'm so happy
- 24:49Speaker 6: for him and the entire family.
- 24:51Speaker 5: Yeah, it must watch really. Oh yeah, you and whatever
- 24:55Speaker 5: you feel about you like him? You don't you want
- 24:58Speaker 5: much funny story about the when the super Bowl week
- 25:03Speaker 5: down there on Radio Row and all that stuff, You're
- 25:05Speaker 5: there and you're answering all these questions and you know,
- 25:07Speaker 5: and you got the Hall of Fame thing that night,
- 25:10Speaker 5: and I went and you were you were doing some
- 25:14Speaker 5: something and where you couldn't move you were doing.
- 25:16Speaker 1: I forgot what.
- 25:17Speaker 5: It was, some kind of paid commercial that you were doinger.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Remember you couldn't.
- 25:21Speaker 5: Leave, you had to, you know, And and I was like,
- 25:23Speaker 5: I'm gonna go get Dan for you. So he has
- 25:25Speaker 5: like three guys with him and they're and then they're
- 25:27Speaker 5: they're like, no, he's busy. And I was like, well,
- 25:29Speaker 5: Darren Woodson wants to talk to him. He's like he
- 25:31Speaker 5: didn't have time. It's like he didn't have time for wisdom.
- 25:33Speaker 5: And he was like no, and the guy doesn't know anything.
- 25:36Speaker 5: I was like, all right, So he starts walking that
- 25:38Speaker 5: way and I told you. I was like, I don't
- 25:40Speaker 5: think you know, and you did some kind of whistle
- 25:43Speaker 5: and he heard it and the guy's like there.
- 25:45Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you got to go. And he's
- 25:47Speaker 1: like come on.
- 25:48Speaker 5: He comes over, and then for like ten seconds it's like,
- 25:51Speaker 5: hey man, it's good to see, you know. And then
- 25:54Speaker 5: your son is there and then he's like, oh yeah,
- 25:56Speaker 5: and he's like, oh you see your son has hair.
- 25:58Speaker 1: I guess you get it from his twenty seconds. It
- 26:03Speaker 1: becomes like hey, I miss you. How you doing?
- 26:05Speaker 7: And then back to team back yeah, yeah, and we
- 26:07Speaker 7: didn't miss a beat, like we were lockermates for for
- 26:10Speaker 7: so long and such dear friends. You know, it just uh,
- 26:13Speaker 7: you know, there's so much. That's what it is, man.
- 26:16Speaker 7: It's the relationships and the camaraderie. And it's not just
- 26:18Speaker 7: dionn man, it's a Tony Tobert's just the the Nates
- 26:22Speaker 7: and you know, and I mean we all have this
- 26:24Speaker 7: bond and when you win Super Bowls, man, it's one
- 26:27Speaker 7: thing about it. You win super Bowls, you will never
- 26:30Speaker 7: forget the guys that you you paid that price with. Man,
- 26:33Speaker 7: that's you know, those are strong, strong relationships.
- 26:37Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna take a break here and let you go.
- 26:39Speaker 5: I know you were super busy. This was This was
- 26:41Speaker 5: so much fun and I wish we could do it
- 26:43Speaker 5: all the time. But I know how busy you are.
- 26:45Speaker 5: So Darren Wasson, Future Hall of Famer.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Thanks, current Ring of Honor.
- 26:49Speaker 5: Remember I'll be back all time leader in tackles and
- 26:53Speaker 5: the first the first guy to be on here for
- 26:55Speaker 5: this show. Uh to take some calls and I'm sure
- 26:57Speaker 5: that the four guys they called in what.
- 26:59Speaker 1: A treat it was.
- 27:00Speaker 6: That wasthing. I got to give a shout out to
- 27:02Speaker 6: Chris So Chris Bean.
- 27:03Speaker 7: Yeah, Chris Bean because in the back, because Chris brings
- 27:06Speaker 7: out the roster. And I first I said, when I
- 27:08Speaker 7: walked in here, you know Chris didn't bring that, right,
- 27:10Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that Roxy.
- 27:12Speaker 6: I just barely saw rocks. This is all my family anyway.
- 27:15Speaker 7: Right, but I gotta say you right, and a Roxy.
- 27:20Speaker 1: Chris Man, He's gonna kill.
- 27:21Speaker 7: Chris let me tell you this right now. You know
- 27:24Speaker 7: I can't see anymore. I'm an old man. If you
- 27:27Speaker 7: bring out a roster, this small legod that I can't.
- 27:32Speaker 7: Oh God, I love you guys.
- 27:33Speaker 1: I can't wait till you come, when you come back,
- 27:35Speaker 1: because when you.
- 27:35Speaker 12: Do, sev.
- 27:39Speaker 6: Like ten page.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be stapled together and it's like, here's the quarterback.
- 27:42Speaker 6: There's a quarterback, and Roxy knows better. Roxy, that's your problems.
- 27:46Speaker 6: So she's gonna put this on the dusk knowing I can't.
- 27:47Speaker 5: All right, We'll be right back. Hey, guys, keep calling.
- 27:50Speaker 5: We we'll try to get as many as we can
- 27:51Speaker 5: hear on the break. Be right back on the storyline.
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- 29:57Speaker 1: To Cowboys storylines, Well that was fun.
- 30:04Speaker 5: Darren Woodson joining us here for the first half of
- 30:07Speaker 5: the show, and I know we got four callers that
- 30:10Speaker 5: got a big time treat to talk to him. I'm
- 30:12Speaker 5: sorry for the guys that didn't get a chance to
- 30:16Speaker 5: talk to him, and he just got to talk to me.
- 30:17Speaker 1: It's not as I mean, huge drop off. And I
- 30:20Speaker 1: get that. Darren. He's the best. I mean, he's the best.
- 30:23Speaker 5: He's just he's just whatever you remember him as a player,
- 30:26Speaker 5: he's one hundred times better as a person and that's
- 30:29Speaker 5: what makes him just who he is. And I know
- 30:31Speaker 5: he could still play. I mean, I mean, I'm sure
- 30:34Speaker 5: he still could if he wanted to. He says no way,
- 30:36Speaker 5: but I bet he could. All right, I'll try to
- 30:38Speaker 5: get as many calls as we can here, Tim and
- 30:40Speaker 5: grape Vine? Is that next Tim and Grapevine?
- 30:43Speaker 10: Nick?
- 30:43Speaker 12: My goodness, that was fantastic. I love this show. But
- 30:46Speaker 12: now that was a cherry on top. That was Yeah,
- 30:49Speaker 12: you got me hooked. I was actually gonna I was
- 30:51Speaker 12: actually gonna tease him about being a Steelers fan growing up.
- 30:54Speaker 5: Yes, but I saw that, And did you see that
- 30:57Speaker 5: in the worst stories that we did.
- 31:00Speaker 10: I did.
- 31:00Speaker 12: Yeah, So it might be a blessing in disguise in
- 31:02Speaker 12: case I ever seen in person one day, Probably a
- 31:04Speaker 12: good thing I didn't do that. But yeah, no, if
- 31:06Speaker 12: we want to shift gears here, I'm curious. So we
- 31:09Speaker 12: got to see Schoonmaker a little bit early on in
- 31:12Speaker 12: the game last week, as well as Deuce, and I'm
- 31:17Speaker 12: just wondering, I mean, do you think the coaches is
- 31:19Speaker 12: this a plan on their part as far as ramping
- 31:22Speaker 12: those guys up?
- 31:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
- 31:23Speaker 5: I mean I think Schoonmaker, I mean they drafted him
- 31:26Speaker 5: second round. I mean they drafted him thinking that he
- 31:29Speaker 5: would have a role. I would imagine, you know, he
- 31:31Speaker 5: got set back a little bit in training camp with
- 31:33Speaker 5: with you know, an injury. I think he's going to
- 31:36Speaker 5: be you know, mixed in there, right now I think
- 31:39Speaker 5: they still put Ferguson in an hindershot with a little
- 31:42Speaker 5: bit more snaps, but they'll they'll work him in. Schoonmaker
- 31:45Speaker 5: had the rare stat line the other day of just
- 31:48Speaker 5: ones across the board one target, one catch, one yard,
- 31:52Speaker 5: one yard average, one touchdown.
- 31:54Speaker 1: I mean, just boom. That's that's how you do it.
- 31:56Speaker 5: So I think Schoonmaker is going to continue to be
- 31:59Speaker 5: there because I do think he's going to be your
- 32:02Speaker 5: better blocker of all of them, and and and that's
- 32:04Speaker 5: why they drafted him there because he could be that guy.
- 32:07Speaker 5: Plus he's he's got some some wiggle to him, and
- 32:09Speaker 5: he can he can catch the ball. He's gonna he's
- 32:11Speaker 5: gonna work himself into it, and he'll probably be getting
- 32:15Speaker 5: a lot of snaps here before too long. Same with Deuce,
- 32:17Speaker 5: you know, just finding a role with Deuce. All right,
- 32:20Speaker 5: Al in Mercle Texas. Al, what's up?
- 32:24Speaker 10: Hey man?
- 32:24Speaker 8: What's going on?
- 32:25Speaker 6: Much?
- 32:26Speaker 17: Man?
- 32:26Speaker 1: How are you?
- 32:28Speaker 17: I'm going all right? I just hate that I've missed
- 32:30Speaker 17: your shows the last two days. But I'm actually off
- 32:32Speaker 17: of the coast of Belize right now.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, you're coming in.
- 32:39Speaker 17: Yeah, we're playing the cruise along the lines of that game.
- 32:43Speaker 17: I didn't get to see all of the games Sunday,
- 32:45Speaker 17: but it was a it was a pretty much of
- 32:48Speaker 17: a beat down. I just want I just want to
- 32:51Speaker 17: say that I think our offense is gonna step up when.
- 32:54Speaker 6: It needs to.
- 32:55Speaker 17: And that's good and bad because uh hopefully, you know,
- 33:01Speaker 17: we always say in sports and music is like a game,
- 33:05Speaker 17: just turn it on and turn it off. You got
- 33:07Speaker 17: to be ready to, you know, give your best all
- 33:09Speaker 17: all of the time. But I think the now the
- 33:12Speaker 17: Cowboys are in that phase of you know, turning it
- 33:15Speaker 17: off and turn it off, and I hope it doesn't
- 33:17Speaker 17: come back to buy this in the butt.
- 33:19Speaker 5: Yeah you know, well I think you can. I mean,
- 33:22Speaker 5: I don't think they're really turning it off. I mean,
- 33:24Speaker 5: maybe they're at the end of the of the game,
- 33:26Speaker 5: they were just going, let's let's run this thing out
- 33:29Speaker 5: and let's don't let's don't get cute or anything. But
- 33:31Speaker 5: I think, you know, one play here, one play there
- 33:35Speaker 5: of them scoring and getting in the red zone and
- 33:38Speaker 5: making plays. I mean, I think that that changes everyone's
- 33:41Speaker 5: perception a little bit. I don't think they've really turned
- 33:44Speaker 5: it off. There, they'll they'll they'll be there and but
- 33:47Speaker 5: I do think it's just a different mentality. Now you
- 33:50Speaker 5: you know your defense is going to play the way
- 33:52Speaker 5: it's playing, then the smart thing is just to lean
- 33:57Speaker 5: on that lean on that defense, don't be you know,
- 34:00Speaker 5: don't be done with the football, be smart. And I
- 34:01Speaker 5: think that they can continue to do that. All right,
- 34:04Speaker 5: Vince in Albuquerque? Evince, what's up? Since either?
- 34:11Speaker 18: Yeah?
- 34:12Speaker 1: What's up?
- 34:13Speaker 18: Oh? Not too much? Great show? Once again, thanks so much.
- 34:16Speaker 18: I think your show is probably the best of all
- 34:18Speaker 18: of them. If I want to get the weather report
- 34:20Speaker 18: all this, mickey, But that's cool. I got a question
- 34:25Speaker 18: for you. Uh, you know how everybody thinks about after
- 34:29Speaker 18: four games, that's what our team is going to look like.
- 34:32Speaker 18: A right, but since it only has three games in
- 34:34Speaker 18: the preseason to go, maybe the fifth game or is
- 34:38Speaker 18: that really true?
- 34:38Speaker 5: What do you think about we really find out, you know,
- 34:43Speaker 5: where where this team is.
- 34:44Speaker 1: Is that what you're asking?
- 34:45Speaker 18: Yes, exactly after four games? Five games? Is that the
- 34:48Speaker 18: team that's going to be the rest of the season?
- 34:51Speaker 14: Uh?
- 34:51Speaker 6: You know, I don't.
- 34:52Speaker 5: I won't go that far because I do think you know,
- 34:54Speaker 5: we've seen things change throughout the year, and you know,
- 34:57Speaker 5: second half of the year, you know you would depending
- 34:59Speaker 5: on injuries can can change all that. But I think
- 35:01Speaker 5: the first month of the season does is that it's
- 35:05Speaker 5: not just what the Cowboys are, it's what everyone is.
- 35:08Speaker 5: And so when you find out what the Giants are,
- 35:12Speaker 5: you know, if the Jets win the next two games
- 35:14Speaker 5: and they're sitting there at three and one, and you're thinking, well,
- 35:18Speaker 5: that wins a lot better than I thought. If everybody
- 35:20Speaker 5: beats the Giants, and the Giants you know, of course
- 35:23Speaker 5: they did beat the Cardinals, but if you know, if
- 35:25Speaker 5: they're sitting at one and three, then you're forty to nothing,
- 35:28Speaker 5: win doesn't look as good. So you just kind of
- 35:30Speaker 5: you don't really know what anything is just yet, you
- 35:32Speaker 5: just have two games for everyone. Once you get through
- 35:35Speaker 5: in early October, now you're starting to kind of see
- 35:38Speaker 5: what the trends are around the league, see what these
- 35:40Speaker 5: other teams are, and you kind of know, you know,
- 35:42Speaker 5: some of these wins look better or worse than what
- 35:45Speaker 5: they were, but you know, that's just kind of the
- 35:48Speaker 5: nature of it. That's kind of how things are going
- 35:51Speaker 5: to be. Before we get another caller here, just want
- 35:55Speaker 5: to go through, you know, injury port wise, we'll see
- 35:57Speaker 5: what the guys get to do today at practice, guys
- 35:59Speaker 5: were mind touring. Of course, are the ones that have
- 36:01Speaker 5: been out Tyler Smith, Donovan Wilson, uh and Brandon Cooks.
- 36:05Speaker 5: Those three guys will see what they're able to do.
- 36:08Speaker 5: I have a feeling that that all three of them
- 36:11Speaker 5: have a chance to play in this game, and just
- 36:13Speaker 5: imagine what that will look like once they go to Arizona.
- 36:15Speaker 5: All right, Brian in Pennsylvania is our next caller?
- 36:17Speaker 1: Brian? What's up? How you doing great? How are you, Brian?
- 36:22Speaker 3: I'm doing great, man. I got two questions for you.
- 36:24Speaker 3: First of all, what's the status off Shreef Floyd? I
- 36:28Speaker 3: know he left the game and he was he went
- 36:30Speaker 3: to get medical attention.
- 36:31Speaker 10: Is he all right?
- 36:32Speaker 3: Is he back in the building?
- 36:33Speaker 6: Yes?
- 36:33Speaker 3: Do we know anything about that?
- 36:34Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll before you, I'll just say yes. He he fainted.
- 36:38Speaker 5: He fainted on the on the there in the middle
- 36:41Speaker 5: of the play with Michael Parson's got the ball and
- 36:43Speaker 5: looked like he was going to score, just so crazy
- 36:45Speaker 5: right there on the sideline.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Uh.
- 36:47Speaker 5: He he just kind of he went down just for
- 36:50Speaker 5: a second. He was he was fine by the time
- 36:52Speaker 5: that that play was over and all that he he'd
- 36:54Speaker 5: kind of was you know, it came to but just
- 36:56Speaker 5: kind of a weird scary deal for a second there. Yea,
- 36:59Speaker 5: but yeah, he's he he's doing pretty good resting if
- 37:01Speaker 5: last I heard, he was resting at home. Not sure
- 37:03Speaker 5: how much they're going to rush him back, but yeah, yeah,
- 37:06Speaker 5: it was kind of a scary deal.
- 37:08Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of was got me thinking. You know,
- 37:11Speaker 3: we talk a lot about the job that Will McClay
- 37:14Speaker 3: does right, and everybody else is talking about all the
- 37:17Speaker 3: great defense and all the talent that we have.
- 37:20Speaker 10: I don't think we.
- 37:20Speaker 3: Give enough credit to aid and Dirty, you know what
- 37:23Speaker 3: he's done with this line throughout the years, and Joe
- 37:25Speaker 3: Witt junior with the past game coordinator, and also Nick Salari,
- 37:29Speaker 3: you know, the new offensive line coach that came in
- 37:31Speaker 3: because we had two we had our second second string
- 37:36Speaker 3: guard come out for our third string and then Zach
- 37:40Speaker 3: Martin came out and Austin Richards plugged in and we
- 37:42Speaker 3: were still able to effectively, you know, move the ball.
- 37:46Speaker 3: It didn't become a liability. So I was wondering this
- 37:49Speaker 3: year possibly being a historic Here are you thinking about
- 37:52Speaker 3: like shedding some light on those coaches? Al Harris all
- 37:55Speaker 3: the guys right there in the trenches with everybody. Yeah,
- 37:58Speaker 3: because I just think they do a job. Bill McClay
- 38:01Speaker 3: does get talent in here. But the player development has
- 38:03Speaker 3: happened in the past few years is all because of
- 38:06Speaker 3: guys like Aiden, you know, and Al Harris, and I
- 38:10Speaker 3: just wanted to kind of know what you.
- 38:12Speaker 5: I think that's a great I think that's a great point.
- 38:14Speaker 5: I think it's an overlooked point. And and you know,
- 38:18Speaker 5: part of that. One of the reasons why it's overlooked
- 38:22Speaker 5: is that's kind of by design. I mean, we know
- 38:26Speaker 5: how this thing works. We know that the visibility helps
- 38:30Speaker 5: you know, you it's kind of an out of side,
- 38:31Speaker 5: out of mind, and assistant coaches aren't really allowed to
- 38:34Speaker 5: talk to the media there. You don't see that, you
- 38:37Speaker 5: don't see them. It happens a little bit of training camp,
- 38:40Speaker 5: but for the most part it doesn't, and so they
- 38:42Speaker 5: do get overlooked. And that's that's kind of the nature
- 38:45Speaker 5: of it. But also too is it also there's a
- 38:50Speaker 5: reason for that as well, because you want to make
- 38:52Speaker 5: sure that you're not getting a lot of sources. You
- 38:54Speaker 5: don't get guys talking to other you know, different relationships
- 38:58Speaker 5: in the media and things like that, So you want
- 39:00Speaker 5: to keep it kind of tight, and that's one way
- 39:02Speaker 5: to do it. But yeah, it does hurt him a
- 39:04Speaker 5: little bit. You do kind of forget about those guys,
- 39:06Speaker 5: and you're right, Aid and Dirty has done a great
- 39:08Speaker 5: job of those defensive line. Al Harris, you know, I
- 39:11Speaker 5: think has has their respect for sure, because not only
- 39:14Speaker 5: did he play for mccarthury, he played corner, but he
- 39:17Speaker 5: played with swag. He played the way that that you
- 39:20Speaker 5: know that they want them to play. Be aggressive with
- 39:22Speaker 5: the ball, go out and go get the football so
- 39:24Speaker 5: you can go down the line. A lot of those
- 39:26Speaker 5: assistant coaches have been really good, and I'm glad that
- 39:28Speaker 5: you pointed that out.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Kurt in Arkansas is our next caller. Kurt. What's up?
- 39:32Speaker 10: Hey, Nick? How are you doing?
- 39:34Speaker 1: I'm great? How are you?
- 39:35Speaker 6: Kurt?
- 39:36Speaker 10: All right? I hated missing way because someone to ask him,
- 39:40Speaker 10: he would say he was a Steelers fan. I wanted
- 39:43Speaker 10: to see what he thought of Troy Polam. That's true
- 39:46Speaker 10: because I always draded when the Cowboys were going to
- 39:49Speaker 10: play the Steelers during Troyce when he was in his prime.
- 39:54Speaker 5: No doubt I thought for Kurt, I thought at one
- 39:57Speaker 5: point and I don't remember what year. I thought he
- 40:00Speaker 5: was the best player in football. I kind of as
- 40:04Speaker 5: a wizard.
- 40:05Speaker 1: I really thought he was good.
- 40:07Speaker 5: He would he'd be at the line of scrimmage, he'd
- 40:09Speaker 5: be way back eating an interception. He'd fly over the top.
- 40:12Speaker 5: I mean, he was like he played like a Jedi.
- 40:15Speaker 6: He was.
- 40:15Speaker 1: He was awesome.
- 40:16Speaker 10: And when those receivers went across the middle, they had
- 40:19Speaker 10: to ed Troy True.
- 40:21Speaker 5: Yep, he was a big time hitter. He can do it,
- 40:23Speaker 5: he can do everything. He was a really, really good player.
- 40:26Speaker 5: All right, thanks for the call, Kurt. We're gonna try
- 40:29Speaker 5: to sneak one in real quick. One more called Lucky
- 40:31Speaker 5: Wilson in Indianapolis, tenth caller.
- 40:35Speaker 13: Hey, how you doing, man, I'm good, I'm good. At
- 40:38Speaker 13: last time I talked to you, I think Wade Phillips
- 40:40Speaker 13: was coaching the team.
- 40:41Speaker 10: Wow, it's been a minute.
- 40:43Speaker 18: It's been a while.
- 40:44Speaker 13: Okay, everything, Everything's good.
- 40:48Speaker 8: Okay.
- 40:49Speaker 13: My question my question is what what what? What are
- 40:53Speaker 13: your concerns about the Cardinals? I mean, uh, any any
- 40:56Speaker 13: chance of the Cowboys letting up because they're pretty weak
- 40:59Speaker 13: as far as i'm uh so, what are your concerns
- 41:02Speaker 13: about the Cardinals? Is anything we should be concerned about
- 41:05Speaker 13: with them.
- 41:05Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was kind of wondering if I was
- 41:08Speaker 5: going to get any call about the Cardinals this week.
- 41:11Speaker 5: I'm seriously, I was kind of wondering that because, uh,
- 41:14Speaker 5: you're right, I mean Cowboys, it looks like that they're
- 41:17Speaker 5: gonna be way better than them, and they should go
- 41:19Speaker 5: out and they win. With the concerns or this, look
- 41:22Speaker 5: at the look at what they're doing. They're they're playing hard.
- 41:25Speaker 5: That's that's and and you could say, oh, well, you
- 41:28Speaker 5: know everyone should do it. Well, they don't have the
- 41:30Speaker 5: talent that other teams do, but they are going out
- 41:33Speaker 5: right now. They they probably could have beaten Washington. They
- 41:37Speaker 5: definitely could have should have beaten the Giants. They they
- 41:40Speaker 5: had that game. So they're they're playing hard. And I
- 41:43Speaker 5: do know this, every time you go to Arizona, something
- 41:45Speaker 5: something's gonna happen, something quirky, something different, special team touchdown,
- 41:49Speaker 5: defensive touchdown, miss kicks here and there. Who knows, it'll
- 41:52Speaker 5: be something. It's not always been good for the Cowboys either,
- 41:55Speaker 5: So I think that what what you know they'll do
- 41:57Speaker 5: is if if you get and Josh Robs can probably
- 42:00Speaker 5: move as well. So when you look at what's hurt
- 42:02Speaker 5: this Cowboys team.
- 42:03Speaker 1: And the defense.
- 42:04Speaker 5: If there's been anything, it's been quarterback quarterbacks that know
- 42:06Speaker 5: how to move in the pocket, get first downs, keep
- 42:09Speaker 5: drives alive. That they should be off the field, but
- 42:12Speaker 5: they're moving. They're moving, and they're getting points. And turnovers
- 42:14Speaker 5: are going to hurt the team. The only thing I
- 42:16Speaker 5: think will really beat the Cowboys or the Cowboys. If
- 42:18Speaker 5: the Cowboys have turnovers hurt themselves play like that, then no,
- 42:23Speaker 5: I think I think that's going to be an issue.
- 42:25Speaker 5: But if they play sound football like they've been playing,
- 42:27Speaker 5: I think that they will. They will win this game.
- 42:29Speaker 5: I mean, and they'll probably win pretty comfortably. But you
- 42:32Speaker 5: have to get there. You have to get there. And
- 42:34Speaker 5: that's what I keep saying all all you know all
- 42:36Speaker 5: week is that that's the test for me is and
- 42:40Speaker 5: it's today. If you're going to lose to the Cardinals,
- 42:43Speaker 5: you lose today, you lose tomorrow. You lose when you're
- 42:46Speaker 5: not focused and you're not paying attention in the meetings
- 42:49Speaker 5: and you don't see exactly what the Cardinals like to
- 42:51Speaker 5: do with their tight ends. Speaking of is zach Ertz,
- 42:54Speaker 5: He's caught six passes in each of the last two games.
- 42:56Speaker 5: So remember him obviously with Philly for so long, but
- 42:59Speaker 5: he's found a little something there connection with Dobbs. So
- 43:03Speaker 5: you know, but you have to be focused, and you
- 43:05Speaker 5: focus in the middle of the week. We say it
- 43:07Speaker 5: all the time. That's how you lose games in the
- 43:08Speaker 5: middle of the week and if you're not as focused
- 43:11Speaker 5: as you possibly could be. And it's and it's not easy.
- 43:14Speaker 5: It's not easy. I mean, the noise is out there.
- 43:17Speaker 5: I've got a screen right here that I could see myself.
- 43:19Speaker 5: I got a screen over here where I see NFL
- 43:21Speaker 5: network And it's one of the chances Michael Parsons could
- 43:23Speaker 5: win MVP for twenty twenty three MVP. That's that's in
- 43:28Speaker 5: January when when that's announced. Not defensive MVP, but MVP.
- 43:33Speaker 5: But but you know, you want him to kind of
- 43:35Speaker 5: focus and it's tough to do because that's where the
- 43:38Speaker 5: you know, everything is. But look, we're gonna stay grounded,
- 43:41Speaker 5: We're gonna be focused. Let's see if Michah Parsons can
- 43:44Speaker 5: win NFC Defensive Player of the Week. That won't get
- 43:48Speaker 5: announced for the next fifteen minutes, but if it does,
- 43:50Speaker 5: maybe Micah could win that. Not not breaking any news,
- 43:54Speaker 5: just saying could be something down the pipe. That's what
- 43:57Speaker 5: we need to be thinking of. Try to keep it
- 43:58Speaker 5: as focused as possible, but it's not easy when the
- 44:00Speaker 5: Cowboys are playing like that, all right. I gotta thank
- 44:02Speaker 5: Darren Woodson for coming by him. If we can get
- 44:04Speaker 5: him in every week, that would be awesome. We'll try
- 44:08Speaker 5: because it's so much fun there, and I know you
- 44:10Speaker 5: guys got a chance to call.
- 44:12Speaker 1: A few of you did. Maybe we can.
- 44:14Speaker 5: We can figure out a way to get him in
- 44:16Speaker 5: here and we can get some more calls as well.
- 44:18Speaker 5: For Chris Beam, Darren Woodson, I'm Nick Eaman. We'll see
- 44:21Speaker 5: you tomorrow on Cowboys Storyline.
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