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The Ron Verb Show - 4pm Hour - Friday, 08/21/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Ron Verb on News Radio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Heidi Ho, 4.05 in the afternoon, News Radio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Boys and girls, Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning
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  Speaker 2: on Friday, August 21st with 82 Degrees. Where's my cub reporter? J.J.,
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  Speaker 2: are you there?
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  Speaker 3: Hello?
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  Speaker 2: Hang on. J.J., are you there?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Ron.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm here on Kingsfield Road.
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  Speaker 2: On location.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, JJ.
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  Speaker 5: You're breaking in and out there, Ron. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 5: keep a..
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, JJ's out there on location where they've ripped
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  Speaker 2: down the Rite Aid, where they put up his sheets.
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  Speaker 2: You have on, like on the war zones, you have
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  Speaker 2: on a bulletproof vest that says press and a helmet, right? That's...
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  Speaker 2: As you're out there, that says press, as you're standing
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  Speaker 2: there on the sidewalk observing. Now, from your observation, most
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  Speaker 2: of the work down there, the building has pretty well
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  Speaker 2: been torn down from my observation point. Do you see
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  Speaker 2: that the building is pretty well ripped down as far
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  Speaker 2: as the former.
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  Speaker 3: Rite Aid, JJ?
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  Speaker 2: Flat as a pancake, Ron.
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  Speaker 3: Flat as a duck. Flat as a pancake. Pancakes. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Flat as a pancake. Are there large dumpsters there, J.J.,
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  Speaker 2: that they seem to be putting in recycled material and
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  Speaker 2: things like that?
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  Speaker 5: No, they have the dump trucks coming in and out.
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  Speaker 5: I actually got a hold of and talked to one
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  Speaker 5: of the drivers, and he's enjoying himself making a little
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  Speaker 5: overtime here. And since Trump's no tax on overtime, that's actually...
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  Speaker 5: Working very, very good for him today. So he's quite
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  Speaker 5: happy here.
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  Speaker 2: So he's making overtime. Now you were talking about some
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  Speaker 2: of your concern, J.J., our cub reporter on the scene
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  Speaker 2: here in Cornersburg where they ripped down Rite Aid to
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  Speaker 2: build a sheet store. Your concern was– I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: get the bearings. Meridian Road, you're not talking Meridian Road
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  Speaker 2: where they're talking.
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm on the– it would be considered the– the
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  Speaker 5: Boardman side of, as soon as you hit Canfield Road,
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  Speaker 5: once you pass over Canfield, where the spark was, you're
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  Speaker 5: going toward Mahoning Avenue, that's Austin Town. Where I'm at
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  Speaker 5: right now is on the Boardman side. But when you're
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  Speaker 5: coming down, say, Tipper Canoe from Boardman, and you're going
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  Speaker 5: down it, you come to that little lip area, it
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  Speaker 5: kind of rises up, and then there you cross to the...
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  Speaker 5: where the Walgreens is at.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: The people who said they.
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  Speaker 5: Started going to the light, and then if they make
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  Speaker 5: a right to go on Campbell Road toward the park,
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  Speaker 5: they make that cut on Sunnybrook.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: And we live on Sunnybrook, and they make that right
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  Speaker 5: right there, and they just don't realize that it's really
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  Speaker 5: a community right here where there's some children.
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  Speaker 2: And even if.
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  Speaker 5: You're not, if you're out there cutting the grass, you
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  Speaker 5: can get by a pancake, you know, like a pancake.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, I'm kind of hungry for pancakes.
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  Speaker 2: I detected that you were hungry for pancakes because you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned them now twice. But you're concerned about speeders. You're
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  Speaker 2: concerned about speeders on Sunnybrook. So you're doing more than
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  Speaker 2: just covering the tearing down of Rite Aid. You're also
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  Speaker 2: giving traffic reports. I mean, so.
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  Speaker 5: I'm also setting up my dinner for tonight, too. So actually,
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  Speaker 5: I'll be doing a little. I'm multitasking.
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  Speaker 2: You're wrong.
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  Speaker 5: I'm multitasking.
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  Speaker 2: In your phone call, you've accomplished four things, folks. Let's
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  Speaker 2: review the four things. He's done a live report on
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  Speaker 2: the destruction of Rite Aid for the sheets. He's updated
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  Speaker 2: all of us. He's reported on speeding in the area
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  Speaker 2: as well. He's done that. He's also become J.J. the
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  Speaker 2: Trumpster in reminding the dump truck driver how he's making
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  Speaker 2: overtime and there's no tax on overtime. And also he's
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  Speaker 2: planned his dinner because he mentioned pancakes and he is
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  Speaker 2: going to go get some pancakes tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I got breakfast on the mind for dinner, and so
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if I go out there and I hop there,
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  Speaker 5: you never know, I might be able to take care
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  Speaker 5: of all the things. But that's the thing I get
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  Speaker 5: my concern is.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a mask on? I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much dust there is in the area from
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  Speaker 2: the destruction of where the building is down, but there
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  Speaker 2: could be dust lingering. I don't want you to get
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  Speaker 2: any type of diseases from the construction debris.
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  Speaker 5: Just a little bit. Just a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 5: I might have to just depart from the area here.
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  Speaker 3: So let's have a great weekend. All right.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Live on the scene, JJ. My cub reporter,
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  Speaker 2: as he reports live on location where they ripped down
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  Speaker 2: the Rite Aid to put up a sheet store in
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  Speaker 2: Cornersburg and talking about speeding cars.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 4: He also doxxed himself pretty good, too.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just– he is really– actually, J.J.
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  Speaker 2: has got a great sense of humor. He does. He
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  Speaker 2: might be one of the best actors on radio since,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the old days. You know, Horses Gallop. You
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  Speaker 2: know how they did those old shows on radio? I
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  Speaker 2: think J.J. encompasses all of that. I could picture him
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  Speaker 2: out there on the corner, though, couldn't you, with the
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  Speaker 2: press vest on, you know, the bulletproof vest like they
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  Speaker 2: were in a war zone, the helmet?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That says press as he's out there by the right
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  Speaker 2: aid that is no more. All right, so Miguel.
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  Speaker 4: Except I keep picturing Winnie the Pooh. I wish I
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  Speaker 4: knew what he looked like, so I wouldn't keep thinking
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  Speaker 4: of Winnie Pooh.
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  Speaker 2: I think people say he sounds more like Tigger when
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  Speaker 2: he laughs, not Winnie the Pooh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: It's more like when he laughs, it's more like.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, wow, you did that.
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 2: It's more like Tigger. Now we switch from the Cornersburg
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  Speaker 2: area to go to the guru of Gerard. Come in. Over. Thanks.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, one other thing as I was listening. I'm sorry
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  Speaker 4: I forgot the woman's first name that's collecting all the signatures.
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  Speaker 2: Denise. Denise.
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  Speaker 4: Denise, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: And don't forget her helper. Denise and her helper, the nephew.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So, Denise, by next week, hopefully, I'll give this to
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  Speaker 4: Ron and he'll give it to you, but you'll be
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  Speaker 4: able to check if a voter is registered before they
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  Speaker 4: sign your petition. Right from your phone. Because of Mike
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  Speaker 4: the Guru.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I sent you an email, Ron, that has the
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  Speaker 4: link to it. I did just for Trouble County. It's
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  Speaker 4: really cool. I remember about my goal, my mission, is
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  Speaker 4: to reduce taxes by more efficient processing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but whenever I click on that link, all I
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  Speaker 2: see is you flexing with your shirt off. Is that
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  Speaker 2: the link you.
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  Speaker 4: Meant to send me? Oh, you got the porn link?
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  Speaker 2: It's you standing there with your shirt off, flexing your muscles.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know that I want to look at that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they are getting bigger, you know, with all that
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  Speaker 4: brickwork I'm doing out in front there. I can feel it, man.
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  Speaker 4: It's like it's working out. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than a guy your age with his
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  Speaker 2: shirt off.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I have to, though. When it was so hot, like,
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the first tip I have for anyone. Once you're
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  Speaker 2: over 60 years of age, Do not take your T-shirt
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  Speaker 2: off when you're working in the yard or anywhere else
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  Speaker 2: as a man. It's disgusting, okay? I mean, that's just–
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  Speaker 2: and I'm saying that from personal experience. Things just change
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  Speaker 2: as you get older. Once you're beyond 60, keep your
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  Speaker 2: T-shirt on for the love of God.
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  Speaker 4: Especially after you've been under the knife a bunch of times.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, like you. That would be– oh, that would almost– yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it would be disgusting to look at all those scars
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  Speaker 2: and everything like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like a patchwork railroad.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That would really be very disturbing. Very frightening
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  Speaker 2: to children in the neighborhood. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I like my neighborhood now. We're starting to
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  Speaker 4: get some good kids that are out playing. And I
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  Speaker 4: think many of them have the e-bikes too much, you know? Like,
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  Speaker 4: they don't have the same reason I do. But they're all,
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  Speaker 4: there's kind of a bunch of good kids.
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  Speaker 2: How old are you now? 63.
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  Speaker 4: How old?
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  Speaker 6: 63.
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  Speaker 3: 63.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, you're lucky you made it to 63 with
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  Speaker 2: all the health problems you've had.
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  Speaker 4: I know. And I, you know, every day for me
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  Speaker 4: is like a good day, you know, because now I
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  Speaker 4: just appreciate it. That's why, why am I doing all
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  Speaker 4: this stuff? Like, you know, the auditor function for the
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  Speaker 4: entire state of Ohio. Because I can't, because I want to, like,
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  Speaker 4: make a difference. I don't have anything else to do
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  Speaker 4: in life.
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  Speaker 2: Well, don't you think you've made a difference? See, this
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  Speaker 2: is what disturbs me about people like you when you say, well,
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  Speaker 2: I want to make a difference. Well, don't you think
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  Speaker 2: you made a difference? You went to work. You paid
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  Speaker 2: your taxes. You got a wonderful wife, and you lived
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  Speaker 2: a good life.
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  Speaker 4: I've created two wonderful children.
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  Speaker 2: That are successful in this world. Don't you think that
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  Speaker 2: that is– Your greatest accomplishment. I mean, when you sit
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  Speaker 2: back and reflect on your life, don't you say probably
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  Speaker 2: the most important decisions you made in your life was
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  Speaker 2: when you got married and when you brought those beautiful
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  Speaker 2: children into the world and obviously being able to provide
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  Speaker 2: for them, that that is really what life is all about.
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  Speaker 2: Everything else is just bullcrap. Would you not agree?
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  Speaker 4: I do not say it's bull crap. I would say
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  Speaker 4: that those are more important.
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  Speaker 2: Than some things.
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  Speaker 4: But they're still important things. I'd like to be a
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  Speaker 4: productive member of society for as many days as I'm here.
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  Speaker 4: And this is my goal. I mean, you know it yourself, Ron.
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  Speaker 4: The status quo is not working.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is not. I agree.
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  Speaker 4: We are paying way too much for way too little.
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  Speaker 2: Let me put it this way to you. When you
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  Speaker 2: talk about the status quo, like I've been doing sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: some prerecorded interviews that I've been doing of some of
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  Speaker 2: the local politicians. We'll be running them at some point.
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  Speaker 2: But we have some impressive– guys on the, on the
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  Speaker 2: local fronts. I, I did, uh, I did a brief
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  Speaker 2: interview with Tex Fisher the other day and I got
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  Speaker 2: to tell you, he's a fairly impressive guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's an impressive young man. Well, that was my impression.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Tex Fisher was an impressive young man and
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  Speaker 2: I think he's got a bright future in front of him. Uh, I, I, uh,
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  Speaker 2: was talking with, um, Mark DiApolito the other day, and
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  Speaker 2: I think he's an impressive younger man. And I think
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  Speaker 2: he's got a bright future in front of him, a
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  Speaker 2: very bright attorney and a real good– he's just got
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  Speaker 2: a very calming, pleasant way about him. And he's an
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  Speaker 2: attorney and seems to be a very nice guy to me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so, you know, I kind of reflect on
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  Speaker 2: all of that. I mean, there's some good people out there.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, the guy that you talked to,
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  Speaker 4: James Clark from Girard, if you remember.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I talked to him one time. When you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about people I talked to from Girard, there's one person
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  Speaker 2: I talked to from Girard. Well, there's actually two. There's you,
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  Speaker 2: the guru of Girard, and then there's, of course, on
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  Speaker 2: The Legal Show, attorney James Melfi. Who's a pretty damn
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  Speaker 2: good attorney. Yeah, I mean, he's– I mean, Attorney Melfi,
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  Speaker 2: he's not only a damn good attorney, but he has
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  Speaker 2: really got a great sense of humor.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: What was the one he did last night? I actually
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  Speaker 4: sent that to– I sent that to his dad. What
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  Speaker 4: does it say?
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  Speaker 2: Can you believe this?
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  Speaker 4: Factory of Sadness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Factory of Sadness.
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  Speaker 4: New Brown Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what he called it? The Factory of... I
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  Speaker 2: can't give... The Factory of Sadness.
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  Speaker 4: Why would I want to give any money to the
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  Speaker 4: Factory of Sadness? I would give it to schools. I was...
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  Speaker 4: Cracking up.
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  Speaker 2: That was a great line, man. The factory of sadness.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 2: How about when I was talking to Attorney Melfi on
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  Speaker 2: The Legal Show? This was a classic, I thought. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking to Attorney James Melfi, whose dad was mayor
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  Speaker 2: a long time of Girard. 24 years. Yeah. And I said,
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  Speaker 2: your dad and I are the same age. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was his dad's birthday, if I'm not mistaken. It
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  Speaker 2: was his dad's birthday.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, well, your dad's this old? He said, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's that old. Now, this is his dad.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I don't think he's that old. No, I said,
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  Speaker 2: I know he's that old. He's born, him and I
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  Speaker 2: are the same age.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he guessed him as seven.
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  Speaker 2: No, he guessed him, I think he guessed him younger.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't. And so I was arguing with the son
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  Speaker 2: over his father's age. And guess who was right?
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  Speaker 5: Me?
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  Speaker 3: You were. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I knew that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: You guys are the same age.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: You and my brother and Jim are all.
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  Speaker 3: The same age.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're all senior citizens. And we couldn't be happier
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm catching up, Ron. Yeah. Every day I'm alive, I
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  Speaker 4: get a little closer.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, in all seriousness, you're lucky to be around
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  Speaker 2: with all the health issues you've had. I mean, technology
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  Speaker 2: is a beautiful thing with some of the great doctors
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  Speaker 2: that we have in our area to keep you going.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I go back when you go through
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  Speaker 4: the cancer treatment stuff, like you've got to get scans
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  Speaker 4: and everything. So I keep going through and get scans.
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  Speaker 4: And every time I go and I talk to the doctor,
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  Speaker 4: I tell her, other things that I've done with the
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  Speaker 4: time that she has allotted me.
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  Speaker 2: And what does she say? I've got to see another patient.
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  Speaker 2: See you later?
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  Speaker 4: No, she thinks it's pretty amazing, actually. I mean, if
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  Speaker 4: you follow it, I've done a few things since. that happened,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and they're just things like, okay, yeah, I just, where.
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  Speaker 3: Am I going to do? I'm here.
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  Speaker 4: I got to do something. I'm not just sitting around.
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  Speaker 2: How did, now, how did all of your, your bout
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  Speaker 2: with cancer and having a lung, part of a lung removed,
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  Speaker 2: change your life, change your philosophy? How did it change it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think I told you this, like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: have time to fight. I don't, I don't have time
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  Speaker 4: for bad feelings. I, every day I ask myself, what
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  Speaker 4: am I going to do? Like, let's change the world
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  Speaker 4: today in some way. And I'm totally serious. You know,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people say that. I'm not running for office. So,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is true. It's just, it's made me,
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  Speaker 4: I find myself, like, communicating with the soul of my
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  Speaker 4: mother and the guy who built this house years ago.
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  Speaker 4: And just, I don't know, like, just communicating, like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with those people, like, hey, I want to make a difference.
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  Speaker 4: give me a good word from up there. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, just, I don't know. Things like that. I don't,
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  Speaker 4: every day above ground is a good day. And, and
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  Speaker 4: I think, and no matter, you know what, here's what
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people don't realize. You know, I went
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  Speaker 4: through this, a ton of people went through this. By
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  Speaker 4: the way, I think the COVID vaccine had something to
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  Speaker 4: do with it. But anyway, a bunch of people go
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  Speaker 4: through this, right? And you, it does change your life
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  Speaker 4: and it should, but But everybody should feel this way.
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  Speaker 4: You just don't realize it until something like that happens.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Until you have a health situation and you realize
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  Speaker 2: how precious life really is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, this doesn't have to be. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like a lot of people will complain. The
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  Speaker 4: guy that calls in says everybody's complaining about things. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, a lot of people do complain.
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  Speaker 4: They don't realize, like, it doesn't have to be. You know,
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  Speaker 4: something could happen. You could walk out in the street.
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  Speaker 3: Boom.
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  Speaker 4: And now what are your complaints?
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's interesting that you mentioned that, you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I like there's two there's two things that I had
• 16:27
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• 16:31
  Speaker 2: to see the passing of Bob Bush, who was the
• 16:34
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• 16:39
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• 16:44
  Speaker 2: over the years, God rest his soul, and really enjoyed
• 16:47
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• 16:50
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  Speaker 2: Mike Leonard out of Bernard Daniels. There are 250 railroad
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  Speaker 4: Great lumber.
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  Speaker 7: We store it properly. We order good material. If you're
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Whether that's composite decking, whether that's Anderson windows, whether
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  Speaker 7: We're at 250 Railroad Street in Canfield. Phone number 330-533-2211.
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  Speaker 2: Bernard Daniels, right there on Railroad Street in Canfield. Power
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  Speaker 2: isn't a luxury. It's a CN. So the Guru to Gerard.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: So I've been reflecting on that today because I read about,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: as I said, Bob Bush's passing. And I'm saddened by it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: You follow me? Because it's like, to quote Paul Anka,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: the times of your life. And then it was probably
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: a week ago. And it really kind of set me
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: back and I just reflected for a bit. For the
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: longest period of time that I've been in Youngstown, I
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: knew Nick Levinsky. He was on the Boardman Police Department
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: for a long time. And he was a sergeant on
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: a board of the police department.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: But I.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Got to know him over the years when I was
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: much younger and he was much younger, as a matter
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: of fact. And he would sometimes be on duty and
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: stop by when we'd be doing remotes on location and
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And I remember seeing Nick come
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: in and he worked for the Boardman Police Department and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: he would have on, you know, his uniform and it
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: would be wintertime. And he had on, you know, the police,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: you know, the leather jackets that they would wear and
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: looking sharp and that kind of stuff. And I always
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: thought he was just a really good guy and really
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: enjoyed his friendship and talking to him over the years.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And he was a hell of a woodmaker. I would
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: see him at the Shaker Woods Festival with my wife
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: from time to time. But I saw that he had
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: passed away and he was like, I think, 71. He
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: had pancreatic cancer. And that really saddened me. I was
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: really saddened that Nick Levinsky passed away just from my
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: over the years running into him and knowing him and
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: talking to him as I was with Bob Bush. And
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I was saddened by the passing of both of those gentlemen.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: It's like... Paul Anka said, it's like the times of
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: your life right in front of your eyes. These people
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that you've had good friendships with who seem to vanish
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: before they really, and time is precious. Let's put it
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. You know, you asked me that, but
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: all I've done is realize it more because, you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: your life kind of flashes in front of your eyes
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: when you're going through something like that because it doesn't
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: have to be. And then if you wake up and
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: you say, okay, I've got more days, what can we
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: do with them?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: What can we do? Well, enjoy them and relax. What
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: if I enjoy the work I'm doing? Well, that's okay.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Then if you do, I'm all for it. But this
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: idea that you've got to change the world? No, you
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: should enjoy your time while you have it. It's very limited.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Well, I am. That's why I'm doing all these projects
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: that I don't really need to do, but I want
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: So you're enjoying painting that barn? You're enjoying painting? Fixing those.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, that's good. You get a sense of accomplishment
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: out of it. I would agree with you. I get it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: You don't have to explain it to me. I totally
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: get it. But, I mean, you definitely would get that
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: firsthand because, obviously, you had a brush with death. And
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: so it should change you completely. But as you get
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: older and you look around, it was those three. There
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: was a third one. There was a girl that passed
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: away in my high school class that was posted, and
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I thought, boy, that's sad because I remember her, and
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I was saddened by her passing as well. Oh, well,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: let's move along. You're depressing me.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Hey, you started this.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You're depressing me.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I was positive. I wanted to change the world and
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: all that. You're talking about death.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll change the world. All right, Michael. Appreciate it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I see you. Have a good weekend. You too.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: You're in here. Hello.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Hello, Rob. Yes. Just two quick points. When previous callers
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: said that Interest was now the largest expense. Well, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: just Googled it. It's nowhere near the largest expense. Social
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Security is still number one by far, and interest is
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: number two, but not even close.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I believe I was reading a news story.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Was it yesterday or something? If it's not there, it's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: very close to. I thought I read the same news
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: story somewhere where it is the largest expense. But if not,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: it is. It has been the second largest expense, which
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: is ridiculous. I don't care if it's one or two.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: That's insanity to spend that much money on just servicing
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: the debt, paying the interest, wasted tax dollars.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, I agree. But it's. a half a trillion dollars
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: away from being the largest expense. Now, what it is,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: is the fastest growing expense.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably true. And as interest rates go up,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and as a... Stand by for me. Stand by for
• 23:06
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• 23:08
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• 23:10
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• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And back to a NewsRadio 570. It is sad, though,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: whether it's second or first, how much money. I mean,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: when you sit back and reflect on it, caller, that
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: we're spending so much money today that we're strapping future
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: generations for, and we're just paying this huge amount of
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: our tax dollars just for the interest. It's a crime.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Well, the huge difference between Social Security and interest payments,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: you're getting something for Social Security. For the $ 1 trillion
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: you're spending in interest payments, you might as well burn
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: it in the middle of your house during the winter.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: At least it'll throw off some heat. Right now, we're
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: getting nothing for it.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like a waste of tax dollars. You don't
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: get a damn thing for it. And you're not lowering the...
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: The amount that you owe, you're just paying this huge
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: sum of money to service the debt. And what happens
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: if interest rates go up or even if they don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: go up as we continue to add to it at
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: an alarming rate?
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, interest rates can remain the same. We keep adding
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: to the debt, so therefore it will keep going up
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: because we borrow the money we spend now.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: And I don't see a serious effort by Republicans or
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Democrats over the years, and I do mean years, to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: ever do a damn thing about it. And I'm not
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: optimistic that they will. I believe the crap is getting
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: closer every day to hitting the fan, and they'll get
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: their pensions, and the people that put us in this
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: position won't be affected by it. But I can assure
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you everybody else will. I don't care whether you're in
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the market or on Social Security or on welfare.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Well, the reality is I know you have children, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: have children, and granted that, he's going to pay the price.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm 72, so do I believe I will suffer?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Probably not. Do I believe my children will? Absolutely. At
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: some point. They're in their 30s or 40s.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And I just have one more comment. I was listening
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: to your, I'll call it a debate the other day
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: with G2.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, my debates.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I found it fascinating because, I don't want to sound nerdish,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: but G2 is talking macro. He's talking big numbers, you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: and his numbers are correct. The numbers he was discussing...
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: You know, the rate of increase is dramatically down as
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: compared to the Biden era. You're talking micro. You're talking
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: that person who goes to Giant Eagle and goes to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Meijer and is paying so much more for a loaf
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: of bread or a pound of meat. You know, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: that person's not saying, well, that darn Joe Biden. Right.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: He's saying that darn Donald Trump, because that's who's in office. Right.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: So you guys, you know, I don't want to sound nerdish,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: but it reminds me of the parable. We have six
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: guys feeling an elephant, and one touches the trunk and says, wow,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: that's a hose. Another one touches the body and says,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: that's a wall. Another one touches the tail and says,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: that's a rope. One touches the leg and says it's
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: a tree. You're both talking about the same thing, but
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: you're never going to agree that it's an elephant. Right.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: So you and G2 are arguing. I don't want to
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: say arguing. Debating. And neither one was going to change
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: your point because to some degree, both of you were right.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: It is the reality of today that the thing on
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: just about everybody's mind is the gas price. Gas and groceries,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you cannot negate inflation. Obviously, inflation, the big chunk of
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: it started under, well, frankly, it started under COVID. As
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I would always say to people, you know, how stupid
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: was this? COVID was there. Everything was shut down. And
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: we give people all this money. So we create a
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: demand when things aren't being produced, which creates inflation. And
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: we keep pumping out all these dollars that the government makes,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: which lessens the value of existing dollars, supply and demand.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: So government creates this inflation that's going on during COVID.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: And then Biden adds to it tremendously. Then Trump. seem
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to be going on the right path before this war situation,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: because gas was about $ 2. 50, and we were drill, baby, drill,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: and the goal to bring prices down, because we're an
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: energy-driven economy, and it seemed to be going in that direction. Literally,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: in a blink of an eye, it's reversed and created
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: a worldwide problem, not just on oil, but on chemicals
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: as well, and with no end in sight. And I'm deeply,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm genuinely deeply concerned with the economics of
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: our country and even, to a certain extent, the globe?
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm probably like most people who, when I watch TV,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I'm starting to see the commercials, and they talk about affordability,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: but maybe I've missed it. Have you seen any politician
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: anywhere who's come up with a solution other than, say,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: a is an issue?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: The only politicians that I would put forward who come
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: up with a solution, I would say two come to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: my mind. Ron DeSantis and Dave Thomas, the state rep
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: that I have on. Because they say as politicians, from
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: their aspect, what we can do is try to become
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: like DeSantis. Every year they're spending less money than the
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: year before, not adjusted for inflation. That is making it
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: so people can keep more of their money and they're
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: trying to do away with property taxes or significantly reduce them.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: As DeSantis says, that's what we can do in government
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: to make your life better, easier, And that's what we
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: can do. And I think that's what Dave Thomas is
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: doing locally. But from a federal level, no. From a
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: federal level, I was optimistic about Trump. I mean, I
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: do think Trump made some differences in many ways. Unfortunately,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: they're only for three years. Like, for example, no tax
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: on tips, no tax on overtime, and by upping the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: deduction on Social Security. All of those things help you
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: keep more of your money in the tax breaks. So
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I would throw him into that mix, but he's gotten
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: off course.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking more in terms of... Do you
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: know what the Democratic platform is for affordability or the
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Republican platform for affordability?
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I know the Democrat one. It's socialism, apparently. We take
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it from you and give it to the guy over here.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: And the Republicans, what's their plan? I haven't seen it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I'm a Trump supporter. You know, I think he's made
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: some mistakes. You know, the war, I think, is a
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: horrible mistake. But I'm like you. I'm waiting for somebody
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: to give me a solution, not to sit there identifying
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: the problem. Yep, affordability is a real issue. Well, what
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: are you going to do about it? Well, affordability is
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: a real issue. And then they go on to the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: next thing.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, did you know this, Colin? Affordability is a real issue, though.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: You're kidding. I didn't know that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Well, now has it... What did you say? You're 71
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: years old, did you say?
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: 72. 72. 72.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Are you doing okay? I mean, you're on a fixed income,
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I would assume.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I was very fortunate. I'm somewhat similar to your
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: first caller. Oh, yeah. Several years ago, I invested in
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: three stocks. Apple, because I have an iPhone, and I
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: have an iPad. Okay. Google because I use it, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Amazon because I use it. Those are the only three
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: stocks I bought.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: And this is way back in the day or early on.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: It's back in the day, and I don't sell. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: don't trade. Well, I do trade. I have a margin account.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I assume you're familiar with that.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So whenever I would get way ahead of my
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: margin account, I would just keep buying more of those
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: three stocks. And that's all I own. I don't trade.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I don't watch the market. And let's just say I've.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Done very well. Do you take money out of it, though,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: to supplement your Social Security and your retirement, I would assume?
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Because of the dividends and some of the other things
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I get on those, whenever I have a major expense,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: I will take it out of that margin account. But otherwise,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I leave it alone. And the reality is, Ron, I'm
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: sort of like you. I live in Youngstown, Ohio. I
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: could probably live anywhere I want.
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: But I have a I have a wonderful life here.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I think I don't have, you know, 12 big cars or,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: you know, we live in a lovely area in Boardman.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I look at some of the homes on Kensington,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: for example, you know, the McMansions. Yes. And probably probably
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I could afford one. I don't know. Why would I?
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I like where I like my neighbors. I like the
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: car I drive. I like the neighborhood. Why would I move?
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, how much can you spend? I mean, when
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: we vacation, we vacation very well. But other than that,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: it's much harder to be extravagant in Boardman, Ohio, than
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: it probably is in Beverly Hills, California.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: You know what you've discovered? How to be happy in life.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, in all seriousness, how to be content and happy.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: The people who think happiness is, oh, I got to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: have this particular car or I got to have this
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: particular house or whatever. And I think what you've described,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here listening to you and I'm enjoying everything
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: that you said about it. You know, I mean, I sit,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I enjoy my neighborhood. I enjoy the home I live in.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: This community with obviously we got some issues that we
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: have to deal with, but this community is, it's really
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: a nice place to live. The traffic wise, expense wise,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: even weather wise, it's not horrible. I mean, spring, fall
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and summer. I mean, you know, those few winter months
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: and you can always go to Florida if you want
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: to do something like that. I mean, I'm listening to
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: you talking, man. You make a lot of sense to me.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Well, Ron, to show you our level of contentment, my
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: wife and I were talking. Do you remember when it
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: was Lotto or Powerball? One of them went up to
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: a billion dollars.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: You know, and my wife and I were talking and
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: we said, how significantly would our lifestyle change at this
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: point if we were to win that? And we're trying
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: to think of what we would do. Now, our kids'
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: lifestyle would change dramatically. But as far as our lifestyle, well, Ron,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: you're probably better off financially than you were 10 years ago.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Has your lifestyle changed dramatically over those 10 years? No. No.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like you. I don't really get. Listen, I want reliable.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I don't want a rust bucket. I want reliable transportation.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I never longed for a Mercedes Benz or BMW. I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: could care less about it. I mean, I get in it,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I drive it here and get out of it. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: drive home. It's transportation to me. I never got caught
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: up in the, in the, in the name plates like
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: some people do. And, uh, I have a 2,400 square
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: foot house. That's how much, how much bigger do you need?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, it's been a wonderful home in a
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: great neighborhood.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: And, uh, Now, if somebody offered you a 3,500-square-foot home,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I don't want to pick on Kensington. Let's say Firestone.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Would you move?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: No, I would not.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Neither would I.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Neither would I. I would absolutely not move at all.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want the headaches of that. I wouldn't want
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: the expense involved in that kind of stuff at all.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: So you're like me. You've reached a point of contentment
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: in your life. And, you know, we listen to you
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: more than most, you know, listen to a lot of issues,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: you know, which can at some point, I'm surprised, doesn't
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: make you absolutely crazy. I don't know what when you
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: go to bed, how you clear your mind is absolutely
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: beyond me. Listening to all you hear in a given day. But,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: you know, you and I are at an age where
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: we're content with our lives, and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: You know, money isn't going to buy you much more
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: contentment at a certain point in your life.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: It's not going to buy you more time, and it's
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: not going to buy you– it's just not– you and
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I probably worry about two of the most important things,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: staying healthy and staying alive. Would you not agree?
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Staying healthy, staying alive, and our kids and wives.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hoping that your kids have– good health
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: and a good life as well as you watch them
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: grow up. It's hard to imagine as you get closer
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: to the end, the thing that you probably will miss
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: most is being able to watch them grow.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: And it's so easy to do in Youngstown, Ohio, you know, Boardman, Canfield,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Austin town. It's just, it's an easy place to live
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: from the perspective of traffic and just all the things
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: that you see in major cities and I mean, I'm
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: sure you drive other places. And when you go to Florida,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Florida is lunacy. I-4? There's never a good time.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: To go on I-4. Boy, are you spot on. It
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: is damn right. It's frightening. I mean, make no mistake,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: I love Kissimmee and where my daughter is, and we
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: go there quite often, and it's very enjoyable and relaxing.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I love every minute of it. My brothers are both
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: in Florida, and I enjoy it tremendously. But I'm going
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to tell you, the I-4 is enough to make me
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: wet myself.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: And it's like that all the time. Yeah. I mean,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: it's not 5 o'clock at night. It's 10 o'clock at night,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: 9 o'clock in the morning. It doesn't matter. You're on I-4.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: It's a disaster. And people do that every day.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, my daughter, you can see her life in
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: front of your very eyes when you get on there.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, does she travel I-4 every day?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She goes from Kissimmee to Orlando and back. Well,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: a few days. Some days she can work from home.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: But it is a nightmare. Nightmare trip. But there's an
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: excitement about Florida when you go down there. though if
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: you ever go down for the winter whatever whatever it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: it's a very my brothers say the sunshine in the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: wintertime makes you makes you live longer you get out
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: you walk you enjoy something about the sunshine is.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Is is a good thing we we do we go
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: down for four months you know people go well Four months,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: it's cold here for four months, and it's warm there.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: You're going to spend four months somewhere where it's uncomfortable.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I would not want to be in Florida August, January, well, July, August, September,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: and even May. You know, there's four months there where
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: it's unbearable. There's four months here where it's ridiculous. So
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: just trade your four months, you know. We go down
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: to Naples for four months. We have a condo down there.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: They call that Little Youngstown, don't they, Naples?
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, they do. You're going to run into somebody you
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: know if you go to Naples. For four months, I'd
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: rather be there than four months. Trust me, Ron, you've
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: gone down there in the summer. You know what it's
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: like in Florida during the summer. It's much nicer.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: You've got to come over to Osceola County.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You've got to stray out of Naples and come
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: down to Kissimmee, and we'll have lunch.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: I have.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: That's why the I-4 comment. I have to. We have
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: gone in that area. Well, it's a pleasure talking to you.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed your insight. Your insight is refreshing. And I'm
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: in tune with everything you said hit home with me.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: And you know what? You have discovered, in my opinion,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a secret to life. And I thank you for sharing it.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: And I enjoyed every word you had to say. And
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you. It appears you're there, too. And that's
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: what's wonderful.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: You got it. Thank you, my friends. What an absolute
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: great caller. I mean, what a terrific caller as I
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: listen to him talk. And, you know, like I say,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: you reflect on it. I'm reflected on it because, like
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I said, the passing of Bob Bush, who was the
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: police chief in Youngstown, a lawyer, gunner on a helicopter
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: in Vietnam, and then Nick Levinsky– who's with the Board
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: of Police Department. I've known him for a long, long time,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and I was really saddened by his passing. News Radio
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: 570 WKBN and Ron Verbaugh. I can't tell you how
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: much I enjoyed that last gentleman's conversation. It just kind
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of put you at ease. You're on the air.
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: I'm glad he called before me. That was really nice.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I just, I mean, when you listen to him talk,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, there was monumental words of wisdom that
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: came out of that man's mouth and everything he said
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I could relate to. And he has, in my opinion,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: really discovered the true meaning of life and happiness. He's content.
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: It is. And once your bills are paid, you know,
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: usually happiness is, you know, very marginal past that. That's
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: part of why I wanted to call in today. And
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: he's right. You know, you can only buy so much, but,
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: you know, You can never buy more time. That's why
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: you have to use your money for time. Time is money,
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: and mostly what I wanted to call about today.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: All right, so let me hear it. I'm paying attention.
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, we've been talking about these interest rates
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: and everything, and what happened the other day with the
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: Treasury Secretary saying that he's going to increase interest rates,
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: or not increase them, but increase the buybacks from $ 2
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: billion to $ 4 billion, which on a $ 4 trillion budget
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: and $ 40 trillion debt is really just a rounding error.
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: So what happened with the market and the bonds? You know,
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: I heard the options guy call first thing today, and
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: he didn't really understand it, and Frank was kind of
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: talking about it, but It didn't really change anything because
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: the interest rates came down and then went right back
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: up the next day even higher than when he initiated
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: this buyback. So the signaling was the biggest thing. We
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: must have gotten to the point where it's actually a problem.
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: So I've always said, I don't know when the poo-poo
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: hits the fan, but there's this rate, and I think
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: we're at it right now, where things start to go
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: in the wrong direction if they let rates.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Keep going higher.
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: And Rates are, you know, we always talk about the
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: Fed and the Fed, you know, lowering or increasing interest rates. Well,
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: that's just the overnight rate. It's the market that determines,
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: you know, 10-year, 20-year, and 30-year bonds. So if the
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: price of the bond keeps going down because people don't
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: want to buy it, that means the interest rate has
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: to go up. So if you have a $ 100 bond
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: and you get a 5% interest rate on it, well,
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: if nobody wants it and you can only sell it
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: for $ 90... Nobody's going to buy it for that unless
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: the interest rate on it is higher. So it's not
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: that the rates keep going up. It's just nobody wants
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: to keep buying our bonds. Is it because they know
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: Japan is going to be selling a huge tranche of
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: them because they're wrecked? I don't know. Is it because
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: we keep printing money into oblivion and nobody thinks they're
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: going to be able to get the same nominal rate
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: of return 30 years from now for a 30-year treasury?
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: So I think this is finally the point where things have..
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Stand by.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Hang on.
• 44:48
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