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Ep. 734: Taking Advantage of Late Season Magic (Field Edges and Cold Temperatures 12.20.23 RFR) · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the
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  Speaker 1: latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,
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  Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay Longer, and now your hosts,
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  Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.
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  Speaker 2: This is rutfresh. I'm your host, Tyler Jones. And this week,
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  Speaker 2: as hunters are leaving the woods, those of you that
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  Speaker 2: stay the course will find hope in these reports as
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  Speaker 2: cold weather seems to be the catalyst for big buck
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  Speaker 2: daylight movement. It's the late season, y'all, and it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be great. This is Retfresh. Let's go. This is
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  Speaker 2: Retfresh Radio, brought to you by First Light. Hey, we
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  Speaker 2: are in different spots right now, case but we're both
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  Speaker 2: in Texas and we are what seven eight hours apart
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  Speaker 2: from each other, and we're still both in Texas. Isn't
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  Speaker 2: that wild place?
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  Speaker 3: Is?
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  Speaker 4: It is insane?
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  Speaker 5: And honestly, I didn't even We're not only about half
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  Speaker 5: a state of park right now.
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  Speaker 4: Tell you the truth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guarantee you that further distances to go than this,
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  Speaker 2: for sure. That's what people don't understand. We could do
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  Speaker 2: Texas about there every week if we wanted, and it
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  Speaker 2: would be like, you know, not too many people interested,
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  Speaker 2: but it would for sure cover different ruts and different
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  Speaker 2: uh dynamics within the herds.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, uh, you know, what's the difference in doing
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  Speaker 4: uh Delaware in New Hampshire. You know, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: the same place.
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  Speaker 5: It's like it's like interviewing somebody from Greenville and you
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  Speaker 5: interviewing somebody from texture Canna.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like, well, that's the same place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah or not. It'd be like interviewing somebody from Ohio
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  Speaker 2: and somebody from Michigan. You know. Yeah, man, place, same same.
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  Speaker 6: You get cheese curds there.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same place.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of cheese, man, Uh, you're gonna beat some of
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  Speaker 2: that koheda pretty soon.
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I'm about to try.
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  Speaker 5: So, you know, we're down here in the in the
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  Speaker 5: land of man Techi Eras and uh Takiris muchos as.
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  Speaker 4: You'd say, So we're gonna do the tour. You know.
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  Speaker 5: One of the things that we do down here is
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  Speaker 5: we come down here to eat Mexican food and we
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  Speaker 5: deer hunt in the morning in the evening while we're
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  Speaker 5: here so it works really well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like going to New Orleans. Man. You
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  Speaker 2: just go down there for the food, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: randomly there's things like duck hunting and other things you
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  Speaker 2: can do while you're down there.
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  Speaker 4: That's true. That's true.
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  Speaker 5: Step over people that are just passed down to the curb,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like it's a wild thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't uh, I don't really want to go there, but.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there are some nice places in this world
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  Speaker 5: you can get away from folks and find.
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  Speaker 4: Some deer and Tyler.
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  Speaker 5: Just to be reflective, this isn't the last episode of
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  Speaker 5: Refresh Radio.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for getting thankfully. Yeah, we got one more to
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  Speaker 2: do after this. I wish there was hundreds more to do,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but not only somebody to eight weeks in
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  Speaker 2: the year, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I know it, man, I know it.
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  Speaker 5: If you're listening and you live in a unique state
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  Speaker 5: and you want to do an interview on the twenty
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  Speaker 5: sixth of it, let us know, because it's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: a tough day to get some reports, but we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: do our best to get good reports around the country
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  Speaker 5: for everybody, and we've done it this week.
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  Speaker 4: But man, if you're a Mexican big report, I can
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  Speaker 4: probably give you that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you what are you fixing to get
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  Speaker 2: there for lunch?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think this is a place that's known for
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  Speaker 5: its burritos, so.
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  Speaker 4: I feel as if it's gonna be a little bit
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  Speaker 4: you know, text mix.
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  Speaker 5: But if I had to imagine, I'm gonna get a
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  Speaker 5: l past door, which is roasted pork for the old
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  Speaker 5: of all that don't know, and it's pork that's flavored with.
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  Speaker 2: Uh more chili powdered you can handle.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like chili's are bullets or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's rehydrated chili's and pineapple, which is really
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  Speaker 5: really good. And then I'm probably gonna eat some people
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  Speaker 5: the guy with that and some sour cream.
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  Speaker 2: Which I know you yellow, yeah, I see him.
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  Speaker 5: Uh And then uh yeah, I might wash it down
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  Speaker 5: with a big old glass coke if I get the chance.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, That's exactly what I yesterday, except for old Gordidas
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  Speaker 2: didn't really offer the pineapple up cell there, which I
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  Speaker 2: really am sad about. But it is a good It
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  Speaker 2: is a good thing to have. But the Mexican coke,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of people probably listening don't
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  Speaker 2: understand the difference in a coke and a Mexican coke.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a difference.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the main difference is in Mexican coke is made
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  Speaker 4: with cane sugar. It ain't made with corn SRP.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and you know what diet cokes are made
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  Speaker 2: from Mexico? Oh, same thing. Yeah, Yeah, it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: called I think it's called coke light coke. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 2: they just put less sugar. Got one of those in here.
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  Speaker 4: That sounds pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet that sounds real good. Hey, so some
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  Speaker 2: cultures don't accept all this high fructose stuff. Man, red dyes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I know red forty is one of your
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  Speaker 2: favorite ingredients.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I stopped at thirty nine. We'll go.
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  Speaker 5: You're talking about Texas having diverse ruts.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't you see some road action in East Texas yourself
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  Speaker 4: this week?
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  Speaker 2: Dube? Like I said, we're seven something hours apart probably,
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  Speaker 2: And I was in a rut fest yesterday morning. Actually
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  Speaker 2: I was. I was hanging out in the swamp lands
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  Speaker 2: of East Texas. We were hunting hogs. I was, I
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  Speaker 2: was hunting hogs. Eric was filming and we make a
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  Speaker 2: loop down into the wind, come back up into the wind,
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  Speaker 2: and we're gonna work through these greenbrier thickets. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of got the understory under the trees. It's fairly open.
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  Speaker 2: There's like some taller grass sections and stuff and and
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  Speaker 2: but there's greenbrier thickets. These pigs like to bet up in.
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  Speaker 2: So in the morning about I don't know what time
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  Speaker 2: it was, was probably eight thirty. We're coming back through these
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  Speaker 2: green I think it's in. I come around the edge
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  Speaker 2: of one and I see it what looks like a deer,
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  Speaker 2: you know, eighty yards and sure enough starts moving. So
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  Speaker 2: we chill and long story short, we were in a
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  Speaker 2: twenty five minute just snorting and grunting, snort, weason and
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  Speaker 2: grunting and running rutfest with two bucks and about four
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  Speaker 2: dose and one of the dose. I guess the six
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  Speaker 2: month old, you know, fawn was was soon to be
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  Speaker 2: in heat, and dude, I had like a nice ten point.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking like probably you know, here's the thing is
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  Speaker 2: it probably like maybe mid one thirties type of ten point.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, if you look at it respective to
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  Speaker 2: its body, it's a sizeable deer, you know.
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  Speaker 4: A good sized deer. I mean that thing weighs one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and seventy pounds.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, Max. I don't think it weighs that because I
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  Speaker 2: think this deer might not be four. Oh really yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And so I mean he's he's he's he's three, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's four for sure. And he's
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  Speaker 2: just running like crazy, dude, just chasing these things, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, snortweez, and it was cool. We stayed there,
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  Speaker 2: like E said, for twenty five minutes, and he ran
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  Speaker 2: through a couple of times. Had him at forty nine
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  Speaker 2: broadside with a bow in my hand, and the landowner
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  Speaker 2: hasn't given us permission to deer hunt, so I respectfully
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  Speaker 2: passed on him. I actually never even considered it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because this is a good friend of mine and I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to. I would never do that if he
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  Speaker 2: didn't want me to at all.
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  Speaker 4: So you should have drew on him just to see
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  Speaker 4: if he could do it, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, that's what you do on TV, don't you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he drawing on point at him, and even
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  Speaker 2: though you don't have the intention of killing that thing,
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  Speaker 2: if your bow goes off, it kills him.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, a good friend of ours, Chris, Well,
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  Speaker 5: he thought he just wanted to draw back on a
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  Speaker 5: buck this year to see if he could do it.
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  Speaker 4: And he drew back and he's like, you know what, yo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny how that happens.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, killer's killed. So you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: put yourself in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's a that's a flirting with temptations. Not a
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  Speaker 2: good thing, you know. So that's it, man, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like you saw some exciting stuff this week.
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  Speaker 4: Who else did we get.
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  Speaker 6: To hear from this week?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a guy that's going to be a breed
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  Speaker 2: to Aida in that truck with you, old Greg and
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  Speaker 2: he uh he gave me the report from y'all's neck
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  Speaker 2: of the woods this week, so you'll be hearing that.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Morgan, brother of Levi. If you guys know Levi Morgan,
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  Speaker 2: he's a fairly popular bow hunter and bow shooter. Micah
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  Speaker 2: was in Mississippi with Levi.
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  Speaker 5: I think is the one that throws it down on
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  Speaker 5: the footage most of the time.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. He's usually videoing, but I think it gets
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  Speaker 2: about a week a year to hunt. And he killed
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  Speaker 2: him a good buck in Mississippi. He has a report
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  Speaker 2: for us there. We talked to Mark Haslam earlier this
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  Speaker 2: year from South Carolina. Got a really unique property and
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  Speaker 2: a unique area for deer hunting. Apparently there's lots of
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  Speaker 2: deer in that neck of his neck of the woods
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  Speaker 2: and uh, kind of a different rut. So we get
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  Speaker 2: to hear from him out in South Carolina. And then
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  Speaker 2: another guy we've heard from this year, different state, Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Warren in Kentucky. He's been hunting the late season stuff there,
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  Speaker 2: which he actually kind of likes, I think, especially when
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  Speaker 2: he gets a little cooler weather. He likes that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll get to hear from those guys, and then
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  Speaker 2: hopefully next week we get a big buck down report
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  Speaker 2: from you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I would love to bring it.
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  Speaker 2: I've got Greg Latham, he's actually with the Element and
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  Speaker 2: he's in Texas. Greg, you have hunted Texas the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks and you've been I don't know, hunting
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  Speaker 2: places that are seven hours from each other. So it's
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  Speaker 2: a big state. There's a lot going on. But let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about what you've been seeing recently in the deer
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  Speaker 2: hunting woods.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I end up killing a buck in the hill
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  Speaker 7: country a couple of weeks ago, and he was on
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  Speaker 7: the cruise, called him on a bunch of trail cameras
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  Speaker 7: and I actually saw him that day before I killed him.
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  Speaker 5: But he was.
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  Speaker 7: Seemed like he was running laps around the property. And
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  Speaker 7: this was on what November twenty fourth? M hm, so
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  Speaker 7: like right about Thanksgiving? I mean he was he was cruising.
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  Speaker 2: Hard, gotcha? So what I mean, like recently, what's been
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  Speaker 2: going on in the in the woods when you've been
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  Speaker 2: hunting Texas.
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  Speaker 7: Now recently down in South Texas different rut dates, but uh,
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  Speaker 7: here the last couple of days, it's been they've been
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  Speaker 7: fired up. Like I've seen I've seen a bunch of
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  Speaker 7: young bucks cruising and right behind DOZ. But uh this morning,
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  Speaker 7: it seemed like seemed like the big seemed like the
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  Speaker 7: big bucks were on their feet cruising.
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  Speaker 2: So doing seeing some cruising.
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  Speaker 6: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I know you and I talked off air a little
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  Speaker 2: bit that seemed like there may be in I think
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  Speaker 2: k C was talking to me about some stuff that
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  Speaker 2: might be seeing some lockdown type stuff happening too.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, me in case, you're pretty close together this morning
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  Speaker 7: and we were both on lockdown bucks the whole time.
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  Speaker 7: I saw probably three bucks over three and a half
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  Speaker 7: years old. Just you know, you could tell they were
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  Speaker 7: doing the stair. They're on lockdown and things are starting
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  Speaker 7: to get fired up down to South Texas.
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  Speaker 2: What do you focus on when you're like, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to go in there this morning to see if there's
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  Speaker 2: some bucks around there.
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  Speaker 7: I'm mostly just trying to, you know, ease my way
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  Speaker 7: in and get on a high point where I can
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  Speaker 7: see a long distance, and I'm just looking for when
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  Speaker 7: the sun comes up, they really light up. But I'm
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  Speaker 7: just looking for. You'll see satellite bucks cruising around and
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  Speaker 7: that usually points in the right direction where you need
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  Speaker 7: to be.
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  Speaker 2: So just kind of following the satellite bucks until you
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  Speaker 2: get into a rut faster or some sort of lockdown situation.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, That's that's the basic idea of what I've been
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  Speaker 7: trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha, is there is there any Are they feeding on anything?
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  Speaker 2: Are they are you able to kind of see if
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  Speaker 2: there's a bed to feed pattern at all or is
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  Speaker 2: it just a lot of just brush country crewis and
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  Speaker 2: type stuff.
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  Speaker 7: It seems to be a lot of brush country crews,
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  Speaker 7: and I mean it seems like they pretty much feed wherever,
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  Speaker 7: Like it's uh, there's tons of diverse plants and stuff
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  Speaker 7: to eat, so there they could be anywhere and they're everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: M h. So do the dose seem receptive yet? Would
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  Speaker 2: you say that like there there's quite a bit of
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  Speaker 2: breeding going on or are we still are these bucks
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  Speaker 2: still waiting for the for the majority of the dose
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  Speaker 2: to be receptive if you had to guess, I.
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  Speaker 7: Feel like it's it's right on the cusp, but it
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  Speaker 7: hasn't happened yet. But like the next two to three days,
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be it's gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Be crazy, gotcha. Okay, So in that next two to
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  Speaker 2: three days, are you still going to focus on getting
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  Speaker 2: up high and seeing deer or would you change your
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  Speaker 2: tactics at all? And what do you think the deer
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  Speaker 2: will do as things change a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: It's I think the big bucks seem to push the
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  Speaker 7: doughs off into like weird spots that other bucks can't
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  Speaker 7: get down wind of them, And so I feel like
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  Speaker 7: getting up you know, say, maybe it's a clip for
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  Speaker 7: just a some kind of thicket that a buck will
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  Speaker 7: push a dough up in getting in an area like that,
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  Speaker 7: could really be beneficial.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you would you say a highway or a
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  Speaker 2: road would be a place that that would happen to maybe.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, highway road, any kind of just place where a
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  Speaker 7: deer is not going.
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  Speaker 2: To be.
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  Speaker 7: A big buck might push a dough up up again,
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  Speaker 7: something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha, So checking out the spots that are kind of unsuspecting.
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  Speaker 2: So if you had to put a number on it,
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  Speaker 2: one to ten, what do you think buck movement will
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  Speaker 2: be like after? You know, basically I don't know the
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  Speaker 2: twentieth or so, I'd.
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  Speaker 7: Say, where we're hunting right now, it's the next the
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  Speaker 7: next week or so. I given an eight. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 7: like it's it's about to pop off down here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So in your mind, is a ten is
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  Speaker 2: that is it? Does a ten happen every year? Or
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  Speaker 2: is it ten the best of all time?
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  Speaker 7: I think a ten might be best of all time.
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  Speaker 7: A nine happens every year?
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  Speaker 2: I think, Okay, I got you. See, when I think
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  Speaker 2: about it, I consider a ten is scale of one
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  Speaker 2: to ten is like the best day of the year.
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  Speaker 2: So I always I'm interested in how people perceive that.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, I appreciate the report.
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  Speaker 8: Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you get a mondo for the those who
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: are interested. Greg actually hunted with you. Guys know him
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  Speaker 2: as Mark Kenyon on a hunt last year on the
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  Speaker 2: Buck Truck series and killed a buck on that video.
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  Speaker 2: You can see it on the Mediator channel, so check
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  Speaker 2: it out. Thanks a bunch, Greg, all right, no problem,
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  Speaker 2: All right, now I've got Michael Morgan on the phone.
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  Speaker 2: He's the brother of Levi as we talked about earlier
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  Speaker 2: off the air. Michah, what's been going on, man.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, not much, just been chasing white tell us since September. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: they start down a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I know the feeling, man, it's it's good to be
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  Speaker 2: homes at the end of the year, for sure, man,
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  Speaker 2: this time of year especially, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So you've been in Mississippi recently and it looked like
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  Speaker 2: he had some success. I guess you get to get
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  Speaker 2: in front of the camera sometimes or that was there
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  Speaker 2: no cameras running?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah I did. I get about maybe a week two
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  Speaker 8: weeks out of the year to hunt for myself and
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  Speaker 8: that was one of them. And yeah, we got it
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  Speaker 8: all on film. So it was a heck.
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  Speaker 4: Of a week for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Cool man, that's awesome. What what was what was the
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  Speaker 2: deer herd doing where you're at?
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  Speaker 8: That was pretty peak rut down where we were at
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  Speaker 8: that time of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Bucks were chasing little.
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  Speaker 8: Bucks, were you know, surrounding the buck with the doughs,
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  Speaker 8: trying to get in on him, running them off. Just
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  Speaker 8: pretty much your peak rut activity.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. So with the buck you shot, was
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: he actually chasing or what was he doing? No?
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: He actually I'm assuming he had just left the dough
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: because we had pictures of him about five days before
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: I seen him and he was with a dough and
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: we he completely disappeared, so we assumed he was locked
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: down somewhere, and when I seen him, he was actually
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: by himself, so he was off his dough, cruising probably
• 16:57
  Speaker 8: for another one.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Gotcha were you since you're hunting a like an agfield
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: or a food plot.
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: I wasn't. I was actually in the in the hardwoods
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: and down there kind of where we hunt. You're hunting
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: structure and like the ridge might only be five feet tall,
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: but that's what they're on. They're cruising that ridge, you know,
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: going from thicket to thicket. So I was kind of
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: in between. I was on the edge of a field
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: probably one hundred and fifty yards and that buck was
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: just cruising. He had came out of one thicket and
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: I saw him for maybe ten seconds. He was headed
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: for another thicket and I wound up having to grun
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: him from about one hundred yards all the way in.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: So that's cool.
• 17:47
  Speaker 8: Cis pretty heavy.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So those those ridges are just I guess
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: you're you're hunting in pretty low land country. I'm guessing,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: is that right?
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: And so those ridges Mississippi okay, and those I'm guessing
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you know, in my experience, at least those ridges are
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: kind of where some underbrush will grow because it doesn't
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: flood as often as the other stuff. I'm guessing, right,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: So that's why the stick it's there. Okay. So are
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: there oak trees in the area.
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: There are oak trees. Yeah, and uh, normally, like earlier
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: in the season, that's what we're hunting around, is oak
• 18:20
  Speaker 8: trees and any kind of for simon trees. But this
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: time of year, they're not very interested in food, so
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: you're really just hunting the structure.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I got you, Okay, So if things were, if you're
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: hunting next week, with things change, would you still stay
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: on the ridges? Do you think it's going to be
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: still pretty rut heavy or what do you think is
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: going to happen?
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it is kind of hard to say.
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: Now we've hunted down there for the last i'd say
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: six years, and for probably the first three weeks in
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: November or of December, it's pretty rut heavy. I mean,
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: they're they're rutting and doing their thing up until really
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: around Christmas the New Year's and even even after New
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: Year's there's still a few doz in heat and they're
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: still chasing. So I would probably be doing the same
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: thing next week if I was, if I was hunting.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Gotcha, did you do any calling this past week?
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: I did a little bit normally. When I would see
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: one and he was going the opposite way, that's when
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: I would call. It's really hard to do any kind
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: of blind calling down there, just because it's so thick.
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: They can get in behind you, and most of the time,
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: those big mature ones, that's what they're doing, they're coming
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: down window.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You sure sure.
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: Did a little bit, though. I did do a little bit.
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: If it got slow, I might hit the horns together.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: But it's hard, not a whole lot. It's hard not
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to when you're sitting there, just like, man, I kind
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: of want to make something happen right now.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know there's one clothes ain't seeing them.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so would you do a whole lot? Would
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: you still continue in the next week rattling? And would
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you do any blind calling at all? Does it change
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: or is it pretty much the same tactics?
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: I honestly, I will do blind calling if I can
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: back myself up to the Mississippi River and have that
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: wind blowing over where they can't get down wind of me.
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: Or if I'm hunting a spot where it's open down wind,
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: where I can see them coming and I can potentially
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: if they're trying to circle down, win, you can get
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: a little more aggressive and potentially turn them before they
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: get down win. But yeah, we'll probably what I would do.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, So in the next week, if you had to
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: put a number on the buck movement on a scale
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: of one to ten, what would you rate it in
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: the next week?
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: I would probably put it up to a seven or eight,
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: all right, And that's going off of where we hunt
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: down there. It's normally rolling pretty good still.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So okay, awesome, man, Well, I appreciate the report, dude,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and I hope you guys have a blessed Christmas and
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a good rest of your season. Man. It's it's been
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: good fun fun watching you guys, and it looks like
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: you've had a great season you leave.
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: I both absolutely, man, I appreciate the time, and uh,
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: I hope you guys have a blessed Christmas as well.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: All right, I've got Mark Haslam. He's out in South
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Carolina and we had him earlier this year. Uh. Now
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: we're on the opposite side of what the people traditionally
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: think of the rut. Is it is that the case
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: for you or or what is the rut like in
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: your area? Mark?
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: That's right, Tyler.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Our our rut activity as far as breeding will start
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: the third week in October. I'm in the midlands of
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: South Carolina, but that's the portion of South Carolina Georgia.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: It's going to start the third fourth weekends, gotcha.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: So we're looking at pretty far removed from the rut.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Probably a lot of post rut here. And you've been
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: hunting the last week or so. What's that all look
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: like for you?
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: Right now?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Most of our deer heard they are back just pounding
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: food sources whether it's a late seasonal winter food plot
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: or if maybe there's still some acorns on the ground
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: or trying to hints hitting some remnants that's left in
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: agricultural fields which are all harvested right now. But it's
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: it's good and cold down here finally in the South,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: and we've gotten a lot of rain, especially as past
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: this past week, tons.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: Of rain with that cold weather.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: So these deer, they've been out on my cameras earlier
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: in the afternoon and just pounding food sources, which is
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: what it should be doing. You know, they're burning bringing
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: more calories right.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: Now the cold.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: And as far as read activity and bucks, we're still
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: seeing in some some some some some fresh grapes and rubs,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: and you know that's from what my cameras are showing.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: That's mostly younger bucks.
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: But if you are in an area we have a
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: lot of if the dozed pot dough population is a
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: little out of whack, you might have some doz of
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: warm bread the first cycle or two that could be
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: cycling back back in.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Gotcha, Are you seeing mature bucks showing up on that
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: food before dark right now or not? Yes, yes, I.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Am I we haven't seen any mature buck rut type behavior.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: They are back.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I've been running more cameras right now, kind of in
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the season, trying to see what, you know, what we
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: have survey wise, because our season ends January first, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I am getting some nice up and comers. And there's
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: a couple of shooters that have made it through the
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: season that are coming out an hour before uh dark
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and they are just pounding that food, probably trying to
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: put some weight back on.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Sure. Okay, so and you you guys have been killing
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: some dose I guess lately.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Yes, we are.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: We have been trying to hit our management number and
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: we are I think on track to have a record
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: year at the farm for for for total total total
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: dos and actually took total deer killed.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: And right now.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I've shot a couple last week, and you know, killing
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: those right now, you've just got to be unpredictable because
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: they've been they've been Deer across the board have been
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: hunted hard in South Carolina since mid September, if not
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: mid mid August.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: They've seen it all.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: So I've been concentrating on dough betting sites, and some
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: of those betting sites can shift because right now we
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: finally have some good frost and most of our leaves
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: are off the ground finally, so some of the betting
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that was there in September October might have changed by now,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: some of those might have opened up. And also with
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: it being cold all of a sudden south which we
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: really haven't had so far, they are betting in some
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: open you know, open areas, old fields, broom stage grass,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: you know, basically to get some cover, but they're within
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: sunlight during the day to keep warm.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Sure. So you guys, part of this dough harvest, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: what you what you can probably tell as a listener
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: from this is that you're you're pretty intensive about the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: way you manage this. What are you learning from the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: dough harvest right now.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Tyler Man, we learned all kinds stuff.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: We Uh.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Last week, my father killed a seventy seven pound fawn
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: dough that was bred roughly November second, So that was
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: a milestone for us. Wow, a fon dough that was
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: born six months ago reached sexual maturity and she was
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: bred November second, So that's told us that there's a
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: lot more doughs that are going in the heat.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Late October early November.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Then we once thought that's a very that's a sign
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: of a healthy, healthy dough. And right now you know
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: killing dose. Whether you're on public land a private land,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: if you are able to take a dough, you can
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: you know, look for that uh, reproductive track and you
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: can pick up a very inexpensive feet of scale and
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: you can open up and it's it's it's it's creative
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: a biologist Joe Hamilton, and it will tell you pretty
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: pretty precisely exactly when that dough is bred.
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: So if you can figure that out.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: And you get a couple a couple of samples, like
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I said, anywhere in the country, as long as the
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: dose are about thirty thirty five days post breeding, you'll
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: know when they were bred. And then the week prior
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: leading up to that, that's when the bucks are going
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: to be on their feet, chasing on the.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: Prow waiting for those doughs to have that receptive window.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha, man, that's good information. So in the next week,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: would you would you change anything about what you guys
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: are doing? Are you gonna stick with the plan? Pretty much?
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: We're gonna sit with the plan, Tyler.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I think the rest of the season that has been unpredictable,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: and I know that's obvious to all the listeners, but
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: you've really got to understand that. You know, this is
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: a it's a prey creditor relationship. They're trying to live
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and we're trying to fill tagged so they've seen a
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: lot so far this season. I'm gonna be hunting very
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: tight at bedding, trying to figure out where they're feeding
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: and cutting them off at first lights. And you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: keep in mind, especially in the South, we're experiencing some
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: very cold weather, very wet conditions, and the deer should
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: be out trying to you know, fee as much as
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: they can because they're burning a lot more calories.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: So in the next week, if you had to put
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: a number on it for buck movement, let's just talk
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: about bucks. On a scale of one to ten, what
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: would you rate the buck movement?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I all say the buck movement, my opinion is gonna
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: be about six or seven, all right.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: And the reason why, the reason why.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I say that is that if someone's hunting smartly. A
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: lot of our hunters, because our seasons start so early,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: they're done. They've already filled the freezer, so to speak.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: They've shot a buck or two, and we see a
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: lot of hunters across the board. Just start taping you
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: tailoring off hunting right now and is less people in
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: the woods.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Duck season's open, so you know, the rut's over for
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: the most part, and his bucks will be up moving.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Just hunt smart, figure out where they're going to be,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: and get after him.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Awesome, dude. Well, thank you for the report, Mark, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: we'll be talking to you again next year.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: I imagine, absolutely, Thanks Tyler.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: All right on the phone, I've got Anthony Warren. He
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: is a good buddy of mine. He's been on the
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: podcast already once this year. He's been on it a
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: couple of times in the last year, and it's because
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: he's just a big buck killer and he spends a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: lot of time out in the woods. Anthony, what's been
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: going on, dude? Oh? Not much, man.
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: I don't know if i'd be considered a big buck killer.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: But uh you yeah, so you've been, uh, you've been
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: spending some time in Kentucky. Correct, Yes, So what's uh,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: what's the what's the consensus? Man? How's the deer movement
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: look out there right now?
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah? It's I think we're kind of in a slight
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: transition right now.
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: We've kind of been dealing.
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: With some some warmer weather and we just kind of
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: got into the last few days we've got some real
• 29:26
  Speaker 10: good crisp cold weather, and so you know, it's been
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: it's been slow, but traditionally around this date range, uh,
• 29:37
  Speaker 10: you know, probably the last three.
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: Or so days and probably the.
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: Next three or so days, I've actually seen a pretty
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: good movement historically.
• 29:46
  Speaker 11: Seems like some of these.
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: Younger dough fonds are coming into their first estrus, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: you know, it seems like if you can be in
• 29:55
  Speaker 10: the woods right now this time of year, you can
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: generally find you know, know some kind of buck activity,
• 30:02
  Speaker 10: you know, still doing some chase and maybe hitting some scrapes.
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: I've had a lot of historical data around scrapes right now,
• 30:08
  Speaker 10: just bucks are really scratching at the last last few
• 30:12
  Speaker 10: opportunities out there and kind of really getting back to
• 30:17
  Speaker 10: a food pattern.
• 30:18
  Speaker 11: So we're it's kind of a neat time of month for.
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: Me just looking back historically, and so I think right
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: now it's been a little slow, but it's I'm thinking
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: it might pick back up, especially if we can hold
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: some consistently cold tempts.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's a you think some of this kind
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: of movement picking up, be could you attribute that to
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: less people in the woods. Are you see any hunting
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: pressure out there?
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean there's a few factors.
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: You know, really, once you hit Thanksgiving, at least in
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: my neck of the woods, the hunting pressure kind of
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: drops off significantly.
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: You know, you'll have you'll have some of the guys
• 31:00
  Speaker 11: that are pretty serious that are still out.
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: There grinding, and uh, for the most part, I think
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: that attributes some, you know, some of the movement. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: also feel like this time of year you get a
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: lot of deer who, you know, they just want to
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: get back to food, and really the dose never leave that,
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: but the bucks kind of do. And so I think,
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: you know, the bucks kind of start getting back toward patterns.
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: I feel like you.
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: Can find some bucks that will just sh you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: they've showed, they've showed up, and maybe they're they're not
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: necessarily in a historical home range, but they've kind of
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: just ended up somewhere wandering looking for you know, the
• 31:39
  Speaker 10: last few opportunities, and generally those are close to food sources.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: So and then of course, cold temperatures help really, especially
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: if you want to get a buck on his feet
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: in daylight. This time of year, I feel like the
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: colder the weather is the better chance and opportunity you
• 31:58
  Speaker 10: have of seeing those deer or those bucks up on
• 32:01
  Speaker 10: their feet in daylight.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: What kind of food sources do you like?
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so this time of year, a lot of our
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: ag is picked, but you'll have you know, a lot
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: of just like you know, green like weeds and stuff
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: like that that will kind of start popping up in
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: the fields, especially on these sunny days, and the deer
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: will go out and you know they kind of you know,
• 32:22
  Speaker 10: forage around on that stuff.
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: You know, you might have a few places.
• 32:26
  Speaker 10: Where there might be you know, some old standing beans
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: left on the.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Back corner of a field.
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: Usually that kind of stuff I'll key in on.
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: And then you know a cornfield, you know, really around
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: this time of year, you know, the deer might be
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: finding a few corn kernels. The downside of technology is
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: that a lot of these combines have gotten so good
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: about not having a ton of spillage, is that there's
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: really not a whole lot of corn left for these
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: deer to go pick. But you will see them kind
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: of out out in the fields trying to find any
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: corn kernels, you know, beans that may have been left,
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: and then a lot of it is just kind of
• 33:01
  Speaker 10: like these little weeds that will pop up out in
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: the field.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Sure, So in the next week, does anything change for
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you tactically speaking, or does anything change for the deer?
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I will probably you know monitor, you know, a
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: camera or two that I have near a scrape just
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: to kind of see, you know, what level of activity.
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: You know that I have most of most of the scrapes,
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: so they're not going to be like the deep timber
• 33:29
  Speaker 10: scrapes that I would historically hunt near the root. The
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: would probably be closer toward you.
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: Know, those food food sources.
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: You know. For me, my strategy is really just trying
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: to get between deer and you know, their.
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: Bed and food. So if I can be you know,
• 33:47
  Speaker 11: just on the inside of a.
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  Speaker 10: Corner of a field, you know, where I know a
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  Speaker 10: good trail is historically, or maybe even try to find
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  Speaker 10: like an area where a deer may kind of low
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  Speaker 10: for stage before they hit the big ag fields.
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  Speaker 11: That's really where I want to be.
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  Speaker 10: You know. Really, I'm not hunting a ton of mornings
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  Speaker 10: right now, but mornings are good, especially as cold as
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  Speaker 10: they've been So if you kind of if you can
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  Speaker 10: formulate a strategy to come in from like the back
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  Speaker 10: door and you know, get between that ag and you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: known betting areas, that's a pretty good strategy. But mainly,
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  Speaker 10: mainly if I can just cut them off between where
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: they're betting and where they're feeding, that's pretty much my
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  Speaker 10: main strategy right now.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha. So in that next week, based off of weather
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: or whatever you think you want to you want to
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: consider in this equation, what do you guess that buck
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  Speaker 2: movement will be like on a scale of one to
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: ten if you had to rate it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's a little tricky, you know.
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  Speaker 10: I would say that if we hold cold temps, you know,
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  Speaker 10: it's probably going to be somewhere in that four to
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  Speaker 10: five range, just because they are going to get up
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  Speaker 10: and go eat. I would say it could spike to
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  Speaker 10: you know, a six, especially if you find like a
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  Speaker 10: dof on that has come into heat. But I'd say
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  Speaker 10: it's gonna probably be pretty steady at you know, mid
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  Speaker 10: to marginal movement somewhere around a five.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 10: For all, Like I said, a lot of that's going
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  Speaker 10: to be influenced by how cold we can we can
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  Speaker 10: you know, have the tempts and how hungry the bucks
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  Speaker 10: are after running on them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well that's awesome, dude. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: the report. Appreciate the honesty and all the tips and
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  Speaker 2: tactics throughout, man, and I hope you go get them
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  Speaker 2: this week.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks man, I appreciate it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Those are some great reports. I'm glad we got to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: talk about things like field edge hunting, cold fronts, cool weather,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: and just killing those because that's what's fun to do
• 35:49
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