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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 30 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: That the membership has selected Jack Dale Nights. It is Monday, September.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jack Wars Happy Hour is
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  Speaker 1: presented by Jet Home Loans. Hey, now, with one thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight left, it's time for some shad Rick magic with
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  Speaker 1: j P. S. I will do my best, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I could match yesterday then show magic.
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  Speaker 1: So we're only doing a minute thirty eight show today.
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  Speaker 1: That's an easy day. We'll see you good night. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for listening. Welcome to Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans, j P. Shadrick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco, Jack's win,
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  Speaker 1: Jack's win, Jack's win. Pete, what a game he already made? Magic?
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  Speaker 1: You know how boys almost go away? As he coughs
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  Speaker 1: into the microphone. Yes, that's funny. We'll see. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days for Tony. Here, A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people like my voice, Pete. You're playing her hot Tony. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for the started Thursday night and my voice was fine
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night, by a bunch of congestion. I throw it hurt,
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  Speaker 1: just didn't feel good, and I woke up Friday morning
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  Speaker 1: and could not talk. That's awful. Feeling and uh got
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  Speaker 1: some antibiotics and some uh steroids the preda zone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's good. And then drank probably eighteen gallons of hot tea,
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  Speaker 1: honey and lemon and made it through yesterday's game, fought three.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday it was it was, it was okay. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was. That didn't sound like myself,
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  Speaker 1: but it was fine, I think. And then I woke
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  Speaker 1: up this morning a little better. It's starting to come around.
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  Speaker 1: I feel fine. I feel from why I kept getting
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  Speaker 1: all these tweets from people saying, oh my god, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sound like himself, which is a good thing for
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  Speaker 1: us today. I mean, all these people said me tweets
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  Speaker 1: about you, but Elli, they said they weren't sure who
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't a boot They were getting great at great analysis.
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  Speaker 1: The voice didn't sound the same that you know it was.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny, who's the new animal. That's not true because
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  Speaker 1: I follow you on Twitter and I saw none of those.
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  Speaker 1: We've got putting again too. In this program today, of course,
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  Speaker 1: the Jacks Broncos recap. After the Jaguars win in Denver,
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  Speaker 1: last second field goal four Nette ran wild in the game.
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  Speaker 1: We'll recap the running game. They were criticized a little
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  Speaker 1: bit the last week, and they stood up and played well.
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  Speaker 1: Minshew rallied the offense when he needed to twice in
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  Speaker 1: that game, and the ANFC South update will go around
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  Speaker 1: the league as well. Minshew mag magic at the end.
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  Speaker 1: The toughness, the grit, the guts, all of that came together.
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew never really thought his team was out of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think we just weren't gonna freak out. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we were down um eleven. I think we got some
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  Speaker 1: points right before half. That was huge, um. And we
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  Speaker 1: knew we're gonna get the ball back and have a
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  Speaker 1: chance to go get right back in the game, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I think they believe, never you know, doubting that
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  Speaker 1: we could be in. It was huge. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a team that if they give up a touchdown or
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  Speaker 1: a field goal before halftime. There if Ronnie Harrison doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get the interception, the Jacks don't kick a field goal,
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  Speaker 1: they get a little bit of life dwing and a
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  Speaker 1: half time and then the long drive after half really
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  Speaker 1: turned the game. That's where it turned. Then it turned
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  Speaker 1: again when they give up another touchdown late. They had
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  Speaker 1: to drive down very late to get the field goal
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  Speaker 1: to whip. Yeah. I mean, listen to the last drive
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  Speaker 1: and what min She is doing is gonna get all
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  Speaker 1: the for most of the attention and it was fabulous
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  Speaker 1: and but and the Ronnie Harrison pick was huge, JP,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right. The turning point for me though,
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  Speaker 1: was the first drive of the second half. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that was the statement drive that basically, and now it's
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  Speaker 1: how this game was going to go the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the way. And within that you had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: interesting moments and guys making big plays. But the key
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  Speaker 1: to this game was the offensive line in Leonard for
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  Speaker 1: Nette and then Rock Armstead also coming in and running
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  Speaker 1: the ball well. And if they get that type of
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  Speaker 1: play out of the you know, obviously you're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: get to two n plus yards from for net every game.
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  Speaker 1: But if they get a productive run game with the
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  Speaker 1: way Minshew's playing, uh, they're gonna be They're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a good team. They're gonna compete for the division title.
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  Speaker 1: And it's remarkable what Gardner Minshi has been able to do.
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  Speaker 1: And the best way I can explain it for me
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  Speaker 1: personally is when the Broncos took the lead with a
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  Speaker 1: minute thirty eight. If you'd asked me to bet, are
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  Speaker 1: the Jack's gonna go down to score and win or not?
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  Speaker 1: I would have put a lot of money on that
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna get it done because I believed like the
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  Speaker 1: moment wasn't gonna be too big for Minshew, like he
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  Speaker 1: was gonna go move the ball and give us a
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  Speaker 1: chance to kick a field goal. Like most teams in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, if you have a capable quarterback and you
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  Speaker 1: have a minute thirty two on the clock with three timeouts,
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  Speaker 1: like you're kidding, you're killing a field goal more times
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  Speaker 1: than not. Yeah, And that's this team has that guy now,
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  Speaker 1: and it has not had an individual that you felt
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  Speaker 1: confident at the end of the game off the ball
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  Speaker 1: is in his hand, that you had a chance to win,
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  Speaker 1: and they do now. A couple of things, Um, did
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  Speaker 1: you see my tweet Tony if if Nick Foles was
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  Speaker 1: ready to start this week? Woody? And yeah, we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about that because I saw your tweet and I
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  Speaker 1: was talking about with some of the guys before we
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  Speaker 1: came on. And my answer is this, right now, no
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  Speaker 1: Bowls will be the starter. And the question is why.
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  Speaker 1: Look what it's been humania. Look what he's done. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: he's been fabulous. You spent eighty four million on a
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  Speaker 1: guy because he was a super Bowl champion, He's played
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  Speaker 1: in big games, and he has a track record longer
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  Speaker 1: than three games of being a productive quarterback in this league.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think you go back to Folds right now.
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  Speaker 1: The bigger question to me is, and let's take the
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  Speaker 1: second part of the question to selling should he should?
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  Speaker 1: I just told you what I would do. That's what
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  Speaker 1: you would do? Would he would? He? I don't know what? Well,
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  Speaker 1: what what would the team do? Is that your question?
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  Speaker 1: That's I have no idea. It's a great question. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Now. The bigger question to me and the
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  Speaker 1: more interesting question because I think this team is gonna
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  Speaker 1: start stacking up some wins. Now they it's not as easy.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, look at the schedule. Carolina just beat
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  Speaker 1: Houston and they're very good defense and Kyle they're better
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  Speaker 1: with Kyle Allen than Cam Newton because he sits in
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  Speaker 1: the pocket and he throws it. Uh. The Saints have
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  Speaker 1: a very good defense. Is beat the Cowboys? Now it
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  Speaker 1: was at home and that's where the hardest places to play. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: And so it's not gonna be easy. But the next
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  Speaker 1: four games before the bye, right, we have four games
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  Speaker 1: before the bye or five? Yeah, the jetson, he got
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals, jetson Bengals. Next. Let's say he goes three
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  Speaker 1: and one in it, and now you're sitting at five
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  Speaker 1: and three. That's the bigger question. What do you do
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  Speaker 1: at that point, especially if you're five and three with
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  Speaker 1: him average in two game, high efficiency as far as
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  Speaker 1: picks inter exception ratio, he really has should have zero picks.
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  Speaker 1: If it didn't bounce off Learns face mask and he
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  Speaker 1: continued and he's continued to make great decisions, then that's
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  Speaker 1: a debate. And I'm not sure what I would do
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  Speaker 1: at that point. If he wins them, there's no Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's easy. He went the next four and they're six
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  Speaker 1: and two, they're leading the division, would be one of
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  Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFC. So of all the momentum,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna make a quarterback change at that point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah there. I mean, look, it's a pleasant problem that have,
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  Speaker 1: right would you would you what would you do right now? Pete?
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  Speaker 1: If Nick Foles is ready today and could practice all
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  Speaker 1: week for Carolina what would you do. I'd probably played
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foles. But what happens? One more, two more of
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  Speaker 1: these and on my mind has changed. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's amazing. Just the last drive, everything that
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  Speaker 1: happened in that drive. He's hitting the leg, he's hit
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  Speaker 1: in the face, he fumbles the ball, he completes one
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  Speaker 1: for another play, and then he's throwing the ball down
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  Speaker 1: the field after that, basically on one leg. Guys, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is stuff you don't see from a
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  Speaker 1: lot of quarterback leg By the way, they never said, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that the team hasn't announced anything because
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  Speaker 1: they don't have to, and Gardner in this postgame media said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's just football stuff, don't worry about it, and apparently
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  Speaker 1: did not have anything wrapped on it. According to his
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  Speaker 1: Carlin ut into next l So at least the early
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  Speaker 1: indications are we'll find out everything's okay. That's where we
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  Speaker 1: want to find out. Didn't look bad that Bradley Chubb
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  Speaker 1: came back into the game and he towards a c
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  Speaker 1: L Right, Yeah, they announced that this afternoon towards al
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  Speaker 1: y when that's why he came out late. Remember he
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  Speaker 1: was stomping around. That was it? Oh no, how about that,
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  Speaker 1: that's a killer. Oh other back in the game, that's tough. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: on that last drive you're talking about, we'll mits you
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  Speaker 1: got hurt. When Todd Davis went low on him and
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  Speaker 1: hit him low, it should have been a roughing the passer.
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  Speaker 1: Then he got hit in the face by Von Miller,
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  Speaker 1: which that that can go either way. It seemed to
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  Speaker 1: be like a makeup call for the last time. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was a makeup call too, because it was
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  Speaker 1: questionable really hit him in the neck area more than
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  Speaker 1: the face. But the one before was a blatant, blatant
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  Speaker 1: low hit Todd Davis. That you can't you got a call.
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  Speaker 1: There's one earlier in the game where I think it
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  Speaker 1: was Chubb actually was kind of tripped as he dove
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  Speaker 1: because he got he was getting blocked through a defender.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone down. But even on this play right here, the
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  Speaker 1: one we just showed, whether he get the personal foul
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  Speaker 1: and Miller look at the poison the kid, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, he makes the throw, he gets hit,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you know it's guy gets drops the ball,
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  Speaker 1: picks it up and makes a throw. He's amazing. He
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  Speaker 1: remarkable at a tight moment. I mean, they've got you know,
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  Speaker 1: everything's too cool for him. You know. It seems like
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  Speaker 1: my favorite play though the whole game is the I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember it was the first or second touchdown drive
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  Speaker 1: or he made four defenders miss scrambling in the pocket
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  Speaker 1: and then throws the ball. I mean he held the
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  Speaker 1: ball literally for seven and a half showing it right now,
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  Speaker 1: if you're watching on seven and a half seconds, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's like a video game. His head stays up.
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  Speaker 1: That's the amazing thing about it. I saw a stat
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  Speaker 1: today Tony had said he's the first Jaguard quarterback to
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  Speaker 1: have a passer raining over ninety five and two yards
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  Speaker 1: and four straight games. Ever, is that possible? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you know, I think he's the only one
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL this year that's done it. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty amazing, pretty amazing. But they gotta be thrilled with
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  Speaker 1: what they have in him. I just don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's got Look if he goes to the caroline against
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  Speaker 1: that defensive place, well this week, I think that makes
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  Speaker 1: the that will make the decision. Okay, this is the
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  Speaker 1: game that makes a decision for me. Well, what do
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  Speaker 1: you expect I expect them to play? Well, why wouldn't you?
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  Speaker 1: But what if he throws for two seventy two and
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  Speaker 1: and a pick and they wine, then one? Still pretty
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  Speaker 1: good what I'm saying. But does it? Does that change
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  Speaker 1: your mind? And he should come out because right now
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  Speaker 1: we both probably think Folds comes back, he plays one
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  Speaker 1: more win like that, Tony doesn't come out. P It's
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  Speaker 1: you gotta be careful not to get wrapped up in
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  Speaker 1: the motion of what's going on right now because he's
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  Speaker 1: and that's the danger. But boy, it's hard because it's
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  Speaker 1: not just emotion. The numbers are there. He's producing. It's
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  Speaker 1: not like they're winning in spite of the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 1: They're winning because of what he's doing a lot of times.
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  Speaker 1: And so, like you said, Pete, I like it that
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a decision. It's a conversation we're having. It's
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  Speaker 1: better than the conversation that you can't you're sitting or
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  Speaker 1: counting the days and get Nick Foles back, hoping you
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  Speaker 1: can hang on and have a chance to make it
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  Speaker 1: run late. The kid has made up contenders. That's right, period.
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  Speaker 1: There's no other way to sake it up. He's made
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  Speaker 1: them contenders. He had a run game to help him
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  Speaker 1: out yesterday at least and half. They had forty rushing
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  Speaker 1: yards at halftime and then turned it on on that
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  Speaker 1: drive right after the break with what for that had
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  Speaker 1: ten carries on that drive alone for forty nine yards
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  Speaker 1: and sixteen play touchdown drive. You know, it's the best
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  Speaker 1: I've seen for net run number one. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: the reason was is because he ran like a big
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  Speaker 1: back instead of trying to be ah a stat black
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  Speaker 1: finesse guy, always looking to hit the home run. Power
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  Speaker 1: Backs hit the home run because they abuse you for
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  Speaker 1: the fifth first fifteen carries and the offensive linees leaning
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  Speaker 1: on you, and you get tired of tackling him, and
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  Speaker 1: you get tired of these guys leaning on you. That's
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  Speaker 1: what power backs do. In my opinion, up to this
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  Speaker 1: point of last year and this year, Lantard four Nette
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  Speaker 1: has been trying to play more finesse and like looking
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  Speaker 1: for the whole are looking for the home run all
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  Speaker 1: the time and in the run game. How it should
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  Speaker 1: work from the standpoint of this is how this team
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  Speaker 1: is built. In Leonard fo Nette as your back, you
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  Speaker 1: should be trying to get two three four two three, five,
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  Speaker 1: like just pounding it early and so and what happens
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  Speaker 1: when you do that? The next thing, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: twos and threes turns into fives and sevens, and then
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  Speaker 1: those fives and sevens turned into tens and so on
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  Speaker 1: and so forth. When you're trying to get the ten
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  Speaker 1: right away, you end up getting minus one. And in
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  Speaker 1: this offense, especially when you have a quarter back playing
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  Speaker 1: as efficient as he is, second and eight, second and
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  Speaker 1: seven is not the worst. It's not winning. I'm first down,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not terrible. Just don't be second and ten
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  Speaker 1: or second and twelve because you ran the ball and
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  Speaker 1: that's what they did. It looked like a different back yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. He was the back that
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  Speaker 1: they drafted with the idea of it. And you've got
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  Speaker 1: a spot on Tony the power. But you're foot in
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  Speaker 1: the ground and go run over somebody. That's who he is.
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  Speaker 1: He's not to make he's not to make you miss back. No.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, even on that run, he almost ran
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  Speaker 1: over the guy instead of making a miss in the
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  Speaker 1: deep middle of the safety, which is fine, right. Did
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  Speaker 1: you think he got tired because he got he had
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  Speaker 1: that if he kept running to the pylon, he had
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown. That's right, got tired. Well he now, I
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  Speaker 1: will say last week when he had that long one,
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  Speaker 1: I asked him in the locker room this week he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was because he was on the field every snap
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  Speaker 1: of the game at that point, and there you're altitude.
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  Speaker 1: I think you know, the piano got you know, got
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  Speaker 1: put on his back, and all of a sudden he's
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  Speaker 1: looking around, going, uh, I'm not making it. Both have
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  Speaker 1: been critical of him, no doubt, critical both of us.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get I'm gonna give this dude. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna get that was a different guy out there on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Not only that I and I'm not around the team
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  Speaker 1: as much as you guys are, but I keep hearing
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  Speaker 1: things that he's one of the most changed players and
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  Speaker 1: focused players in that locker room now. So I'll give
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  Speaker 1: him credit. So I have not been critical of him
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  Speaker 1: this year about how he's handled himself off the field.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously we have we have in the past because rightfully
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  Speaker 1: so he's earned it. Um, I've always and I stand
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  Speaker 1: by it. He's a power back, he's gonna make you
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  Speaker 1: miss guy. This is not Fred Taylor we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: and this year, and we talked about last week. The
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  Speaker 1: issues with the run game were a combination between him
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  Speaker 1: and the line. Well, I needed to play better, and
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  Speaker 1: they did, but he needed to be who he is,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a power guy. Just put your foot in
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  Speaker 1: the ground and go pound people. And when he did
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday, he was decisive, he was explosive. There was
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  Speaker 1: no pitter padding at the line of scrimmage, like waiting
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  Speaker 1: and trying to figure out where to go and try
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  Speaker 1: to hit the home run. And because of that, his
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  Speaker 1: natural god given talent and he's an immensely talented guy
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  Speaker 1: came out and he could be it who he was
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  Speaker 1: or and who he is, and what that is is
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  Speaker 1: a guy that can really deliver big games for you
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  Speaker 1: and can be a guy who will get you three,
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  Speaker 1: get you four, get you five, and help you stay
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  Speaker 1: ahead of the chains, be an efficient offense and take
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  Speaker 1: some pressure off your rookie quarterback. So he has two
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  Speaker 1: of the longest run to Jaguary history for a guy
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  Speaker 1: who's not uh, make you miss back right and two
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  Speaker 1: years ago too. You remember I mean and I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say the old days, but in generations past,
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  Speaker 1: the big power backs with that big runs too, because
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  Speaker 1: they just went downhill and people got tired of tackle
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  Speaker 1: on you. Right, he's a monster. Would you want a
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  Speaker 1: task on going full speed through the whole Thank you, Thanks,
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  Speaker 1: Let's come back. Will A delv into the defense. So
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  Speaker 1: we we haven't mentioned a certain cornerbacks name yet in
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  Speaker 1: this show. And if it was my vote, why do
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  Speaker 1: They were driving down the field offense. UM just gave
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: him the ball back or whatever. We needed to hurry
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  Speaker 1: and get the ball back so our offense so we
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  Speaker 1: could score. UM. Like I said, they were driving, So
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  Speaker 1: I just knew somebody had to make a play. You know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: we were getting weird out on defense. UM. I just
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: seen Flacco UM try to kind of was like a
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: one whole type thing. Seen Flaco stand it down and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: just ran and reactive made the play. Ronnie Harrison, Jaguars safety,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: discussing his interception before halftime. Nice play, nice return made
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of bunch of guys miss and set up a Jaguars
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: field goal before the break and kept the game really
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: within reach. Was that an overthrower? Was he trying to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: throw the second guy and Ronnie undercutting? I wonder because
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: at first when I taught live, I thought he overthrew
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the shallow crosser and Ronnie made the play. But then
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: looking at that, there's that second level guy, and I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: wonder if he was trying to get the second level
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: guy and Ronnie undercut it. Yeah, I don't know what.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Either way, it's a great play. He ran. He ran
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: three hundred yards and went forward twenty yards. Jagglars happy,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: ur j P Shadwick, Tony Vosselli, Pete Frisco's out in
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: South Florida. And the defensive side of the football, well,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: there were some moments we haven't mentioned. Why are we
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: making a big Jalen Ramsey, We haven't mentioned me? Okay, don't.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna play around. Jalen didn't play his back.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: He said he reported a back injury, came back after
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: he had a child. Congratulations with your child, Jalen. Happy here,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: everyone's healthy mom and baby. That's awesome. He had a
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: back injury, said he couldn't go. Team deactivate him. Guess what.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: They went and played football and they won. I mean
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the story here is and we'll talk about the defense specifically,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: but I said all last week. Football is the ultimate
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: team game. And they've been playing this game for a
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: long time, and we're gonna play every Sunday, whether Jalen
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Ramsey wants to play or not, and no different when
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I was a player, I got hurt. They're gonna play
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like someone's in the lineup at left tackle when I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't there, and they're gonna go block somebody for the quarterback,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: or and guess what we're gonna play against Carolina Panthers Sunday,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: whether Jalen's out there or not, and we can sit
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: here and dwell on it. I'm tired of it. Frankly,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I think most people are tired of it. Move on.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: The job is not to worry about your corners, to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: worry about the team and winning football games, because that's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: what it's about. That's the only thing all that this
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: organization is to be judged on at the end of
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the day. And they found a way to win a
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: game big But if they had lost the game, part
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of the reason they would have lost the game. I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: disagree they ty Herndon, I disagree. Do you disagree? It's done? Okay?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: He gave up three plays. One was a great round
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: by Emmanuel Sanders. It you're telling me that Emmanuel Sanders,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: like Jalen, has never been beat before. Because I watched
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee game and they completely involved. I think Trey
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Herndon is going to be a pretty good player. Yeah,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not thinking by the way, I don't think scenario
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you could look at it. You could, there's no other
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: way to look at it. Other than to say that
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: he would have been the guy, that Jalen would have
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: been the guy on the on the field at that moment,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: and that matters. Here's my my point. I'm not trying
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: to tell you Trey Herndon is as good as Jalen
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Ramsey at all. Jalen Ramsey is a fabulous one of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the best corners in football. And obviously you're better if
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's on your team and he's playing. There's no
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: doubt about that. So let's not debate that. My whole
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: point is is, if you're asking me as I watched
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the game, was Trey Herndon the issue when it came
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to um why they had some struggles against the past game?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, No, was he part of it. Yeah,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: they couldn't get home, they couldn't get close to Joe
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Flacco against an average offensive line with four men. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: agree that was an issue, but he was also an
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: issue in the secondary. And look, I'm not pointing to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: blame at it. It's just a fact, Tony. Look at
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: all there showing completion after completion and they're they're all
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: in the hand. No they're not. That was right. That
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: was a j boy. No, but there was three p
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: what was was he responsible for both touchdowns? He got
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: beat up? There's one well, that one I I want
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to go back and look at that one I watched
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: on film. I think that's I think it's him. He's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: playing inside leverages, uh, from a man position off and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it's almost like he expects there's gonna be underneath help
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: for the inside cutting route. Well, the tight end is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: there so that it looks like Williams carried the tight
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: end and maybe Wilson needs to get over that way.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I can't. We don't know. Yeah, I don't know, so
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: very and then the one to Sanders for sure, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: then the other one that Sutton on the other side,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Well that one of the Sanders. Yeah, there's two Sanders there. Uh.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: He got beat twice by Sanders, there's no doubt about it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: And one on the other deep all he played it
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: perfectly against Sanders and a touchdown the Sutton on the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: other side. Wasn't that on him too? The first one
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the yeah, it was the slant, that slant I believe
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: was on him. A second slant, the second slant to Samuels,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure it was. It was my question. I mean,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: here's the first touchdown that one. Okay, look, I'm not
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: pinning the blame. If they lost the game, it wasn't
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: getting pinned on him. So that's what you said. Thought
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: literally just saying you can look at it from an
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: objective standpoint and say, if Jalen Ramsey's in the game,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they probably played better defense back there. He's a better player.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not a better player, but that
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean they would have if they have lost, which
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: they didn't. That's the whole point of what I'm saying.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: They didn't lose Pete. They won. And if you're not
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and say Jalen would have
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: won the game for them. I don't. I'm not buying that.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: He's not out there, he's not practicing with them, he's
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: not out there. He's a great player. Do I want
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: him on this team. Absolutely, But I'm not gonna sit here.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit You're missing the point. They won
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Pete and so I'm not gonna sit here talking about
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey's like, oh gosh, we are desperate for him
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to play because we can't win football games without him.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I just don't know. Look, I'm
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: not saying that's the exact. Look, do they want him back? Absolutely? Sure, back? Absolutely,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: will you be back? You're back. He'll play, He's gonna play.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I don't think they're training him.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I don't either, by the way, And I hope he's here.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I hope they can figure it out. I've said that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: all along. I think he's a great player. He's very
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: good at his position. But I refuse in a the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: greatest team game to worry about one guy, not whether
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: he's gonna play or not, and go through this dramatic
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: conversation a week like we can't win games without them,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: because that's not accurate. No, they just proved they can
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: win without And as I watched the tape, if you're
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: asking me that Trey Herndon was the biggest issue out there,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that was what I said, literally said,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: You're starting thing is if they would not have won,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you would have put it on not having Jalen her
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: He would have been responsible for for a couple of
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: touchdowns that you don't I'm not playing me. Maybe did
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I hear something different? All I know is the Jaguars
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: defense had three quarterback hits yesterday. Yeah. I mean the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: biggest story to me is like, why you bring up
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Trey Herndon. It's the four could not get home against
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: an average defensive line that the Packers shredded. I agree,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I think that, But but Tony Trey Herndon gave up
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. There's no denying that, Pete. You're
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: missing the point. They never they never got home. I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: get it, they weren't good up front, but Jalen not
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: being there meant Tray Herndon was on the field. Maybe Dre,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: maybe Jalen doesn't give up those touchdowns, right, I mean
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: it's possible, but we just don't ever know. We will
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: never know that. But that's why you can't just sit
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: here and say it doesn't matter that he wasn't on
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: the field. It didn't matter, It didn't matter in the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: long run, it will, you would think, because he's the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: better football player, right, You always want better guys on
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: on the on the field. Absolutely, but it's about the team.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: It's how does the team play. No, I'm not I'm
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: not talking about a coach because I'm the sum is
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: always greater than the parts. I'm a firm believer in
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that you want good parts, and I want Jalen out
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: there like your attitude. Pet's like, oh my gosh, let's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like end the season. If we can't get Jailan out there,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you can't win. If you're asking me, what would I
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: rather have a great lockdown corner or four guys who
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: get hit the quarterback consistently, I'll take the four guys
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: hit the quarterback? Would okay? Okay? So I hold on
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: time out, time out, time out, Stop for a second,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: stop for a second. Yesterday we never hit the quarterback.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So that's the bigger issue than whoever is playing corner.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Because I don't care if a guy sits in the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: pocket as long as he is and guys are running around,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are. Get it. But
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: maybe Ramsey makes one of those plays or two of them.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe he does. I don't know what a player. You
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: would expect a better player to make those plays. I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: would expect he's a better player. He's a great player.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm tired of talking about him. And if
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: you guys want to keep on doing it, you talk
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: about it. I'm done. I want to talk. It's in
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the room. He didn't play. He didn't play, Pete. Let's
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: talk about this defense and what this team did. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: don't know, and that right now I don't care. Is
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the back Is the back injury real? I have no idea,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and I don't care if it's not. If it's not,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you care, Yeah, If it's not real, then I don't
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: want him out there at all because he but I'm
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: but I'm giving him the benefit of the out because
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not. I will never question a
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: guy if I don't know, he gets the benefit out
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: as a player that he's really hurt. So that's all too,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't sound like it. They missed him yesterday, period,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: end of the story. They missed them. You well, the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: way I watched the game, what they missed is the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: pass rush. That's what they missed. Okay, that's that's the story.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: That's the story, Pete. They need to get to the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: quarterback because if you look at this team, whether Jalen's
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: out there or not, whether you know Joe Schmo is
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: playing corner or not, this team lives and dies on defense.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: From my opinion, if you look at the history when
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: they're good is when they're hitting the quarterback. Saxon. Basically,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: if you put me out there a corner, as long
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: as they're rushing the pastor I can cover them. No,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you're you're a very poor athlete. Pete, Okay, put you
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: out there then no, I'm just above as far as
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you with one hip. He's got newer hips in you there, Pete,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you're making this like I don't I want Jalen to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: be out there. You're a better football team to be.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You don't want or you whether you're want him or not,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: that's not the issue. The issue is yesterday they missed them. Period.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Obviously they didn't. They won. We got away with it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Let's come back plenty to discuss. Well. I'm sure we'll
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: touch on this topic at some point again. I think
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: we will. I think we will. That was it easy.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I'll just say this next time you bring it up.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: You guys just talked because I'm done talking about it. Really,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: it'll be the best show. Great, let's do it the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: next segment. I'll have a couple of coffees. You didn't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you talked about it the SI you're taking it. I didn't.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I talked about for two seconds and moved on. We
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: just spent ten minutes because you who don't know anything
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: want to talk about that instead of what the real
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: issue on the field yesterday was. We couldn't get pressure
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: with the four guys up front. Bring the heat Pete
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like it got him. You didn't get at last time
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I checked. I get a paycheck from the Jags too,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: so I'll talk about it wherever. And my guesses you're
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: doing this for free, Archipe, I mean tippers and running up.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: You've never done anything for free. I actually invited Pete
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to a function at charity function, had to pay him
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to cop It's incredible. I mean he thought about Pete.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: He doesn't care about anyone else. It's what's good for
• 33:12
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  Speaker 1: but I will say that he would definitely finish in
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• 37:47
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  Speaker 1: Frisco the aftermath of a Jaguars victory in Denver on
• 38:00
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• 38:03
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  Speaker 1: it done. Mince you magic all that happened yesterday, Can
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  Speaker 1: I um offer one little criticism? Yes, at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the game, why not just take the knee twice
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  Speaker 1: and kicked the field goal. We kind of we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about that in the studio yesterday too. I mean, you
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: missed the holding penalty, which they got. I thought I
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  Speaker 1: said that on their Maybe I did. Maybe we said
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  Speaker 1: during the because I I don't disagree with that. I'm
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: pretty sure I said, just take a knee and kick
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: it another thing out there, point blankets, I mean, and
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: then you got the holding penalty set you back, and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you almost got another penalty because camp Robinson was getting
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  Speaker 1: out of control there. And the other thing I would
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  Speaker 1: have done, Pete, well, you had to run it early
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  Speaker 1: to make the call that last time out, just to
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: get the clock to where you want to be get
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: one maybe one time, let's say. Anyways, the other thing
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I think was a mistake was should have called time
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  Speaker 1: out with ten seconds left because unless this bad snap
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and then you can spike it out left right or
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: you didn't even how many time they have, it didn't matter.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: You didn't need any timeouts if you didn't want to.
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  Speaker 1: They had one left, but you could just spike it. Yeah,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, if the ball gets away, you might not
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: be able to get it, but but you do have
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to dive on it. He had one time out left. Okay,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: what they should have done is believe me, because I'm
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a situational guy. Denver uses their time out right, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it takes it at You didn't have to run the
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: ball either to make them use the time out, Tony.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: But I only I'm trying to think there was this
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: something clockwise. I thought they had to run a player too,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: because maybe not, I said in there, I know I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: would have taken two knees at the end, two knees
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: called time out with you save one of your time
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: outs with ten seconds left, snap the ball. If it
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: gets away, you can kick the kick, and it gets away,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you kick again. Not you win the game, that's right.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: So before we get to the offensive line, um, it
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: hit me walking, and I know Pete wants to talk
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: about all the things. What if he played was Tony
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: was letting off steam in the hallway. By the way,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Pete is, I was looking at the TV's walking to
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: grab my coffee right now, you know, Gardner min she
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: should have been first overall pick. If you need a quarterback,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: he's better than any of the rookie quarterbacks out there.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: His numbers, his performances, his win loss record, he's better
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: than any of them. Well, actually, Daniel Jones two with
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: him not his numbers wise, he's not the only played
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: two games though. No, I'm talking about uh, just rating.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Look at the ratings, not even close. Gardners at the
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: sixth best rating in the league. Right now, Gardner should
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: have been the first impressive his heck yeah, he should
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: have been the first overall pick if you needed a quarterback.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: So then why would you take him out like you
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: said you would do? Fair point packed himself into that one. No,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: but it's interesting to me. I mean, all the hype
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: around Kyler Murray, who's not won a game, No, and
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I would I've never been a huge uh. I was
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: never a big sand of that pick. Dwayne Haskins, who
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: now the reports is Washington didn't even want him or
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: half of Washington want him, but Daniel Snyder wanted him.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, who looks like he's gonna be a good player, right.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Who's the other first rounder you have locked it? Who's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: the second rounder? Lock? Yeah, Drew Lock. I mean right now,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Mitch's that performed all of them, he's Tom Brady. But
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady did he didn't do it as a rookie.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: He did never did it as a rookie. That was
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a second year No, but he's Tom Brady. Those sixth
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: round pick comes in, Guy get hurt, takes the job done,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: give it back. It's interesting though high price guy Drew
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Bledsoe high price at the time, but it was more
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: than a Brady did it for more than a three
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: week window. That's why I think you have to do
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: You have to do it like eight weeks. So at
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the bye if they're five and three, you're you're keeping him.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: If he's if he's playing at the level he is,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and he's the sixth rated quarterback in the NFL and
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: he's completent percentage, you stop five? Like, how do you not?
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Then what do you do with Foalds? Yeah, I don't know.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: That's not my problem. Well, that's problem. The Jacks pay him,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: but just not for that, I guess. Right. Oh wow,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: you know what Tony is once Foals comes back, if
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you keep Minshew in there, you have to keep him
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: in there. In other words, if he has one bad game,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, you can't go back. You can't go back
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and forth. You can't go back and forth. And the
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: same thing if if you put Foals in there, he's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: the guy. He's the guy. I agree. Offensive line. Oh sorry,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Pete Foals goes back in and they lose a game
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: or two, and then you go back to Minshew. I
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: mean you can. I think once you go to once,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you stick with Minshew. You gotta stay with Minshew. If
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: you go back to Folds and he doesn't play well
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: for a couple of games, then you gotta go to
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Minshew again. It's crazy. I can't believe we're having this conversation.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: All right, isn't it amazing? It's a good one to have. Um,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: let's let's take a time out. We'll come back. We'll
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: get into the offensive line a little bit more. They
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: were great in the run game, but the quarterback got
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: hit twelve times. Yesterday they were also playing who is
• 43:31
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• 43:33
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• 43:36
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  Speaker 1: Was my last game on the beat, was it really
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand? Really? Yeah? It was the last game
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  Speaker 1: ever at stadium. Yeah. And he was spec that night. Now,
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  Speaker 1: And if you talk to Fred, he said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he left some out there too. He could have had
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot more. I think a little dehydrated. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder why mhm. But and he was rooting for
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  Speaker 1: Leonard to get it yesterday too. I mean we were
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  Speaker 1: No way. At some point he knows that somebody's gonna
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  Speaker 1: don't care anybody says that. That's a lie. We're not
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  Speaker 1: you hold? I mean, I mean last night junion on
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars beat in history. Yeah, that's not measurable sets
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  Speaker 1: not a record. That's not a record. But it's true,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a record. I remember Michael Right. Michael Right
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  Speaker 1: always texts me. He goes, how's it sent a message?
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  Speaker 1: How's it feel being the second best? Like, oh, Michael,
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  Speaker 1: it's not even closed, dude, what do you three? No?
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  Speaker 1: I think Oshan might be second? Wow? What about bart
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  Speaker 1: Nose in the top group there? What's your favorite record?
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  Speaker 1: What's your best record? I don't think I haven't. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do offensive linemen have records? I take you played other sports.
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  Speaker 1: but not I want to hear it. Don't even say
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  Speaker 1: what's JP's best record, Tony largest forehead, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Pete's got me beat. I'm not sure his forehead is
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  Speaker 1: bigger than yours, though, even without the hair right, well,
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  Speaker 1: it was time, it was close. I was given second,
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  Speaker 1: but I guess by millimeter too. But but I don't
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  Speaker 1: think because I have no hair. JP has no hair,
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  Speaker 1: and I still think we don't. We're a distant, way distant.
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  Speaker 1: Second and third year forehead. Yeah, well you're you're also
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  Speaker 1: little head. Yeah, you're a little fat speaking, I got
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• 51:04
  Speaker 1: line talk yesterday, we we've praised them in the run game.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: That has been an area of Let me say why,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: what was the difference? The difference was they stayed on blocks.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: And the Tennessee game, if you go back and watch it,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't all them. They had some blitzing that a
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  Speaker 1: nickel blitz. It wasn't picked up. They had nothing to
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: do with them. Uh. And then at times like four
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: guys who blocked to play right and one which screwed
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: up and get penetration. So the difference was they were
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: instinct they stayed on their blocks. They were very physical
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: finishing the other part of his listen deve Philippo only
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: called fifteen runs the running backs against the Titans. Yeah,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: that's right. We had like thirty six rushing attempts. Yeah,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: they dedicated. He said, we're running the ball and they did.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Do you think getting Armstead in there helped for net No,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: because I was he didn't really get in there until
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: they got it going right. What I'm saying, does that
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: even because because he had carries going into the into
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: this game, I think he'd only missed ten snaps all
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: year before that. He had been on the field all
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the time. I think it's big for the overall long
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: term production of this team to get rock arms that involved.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Leonard was great. I think Leonard
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: in this offensive line was gonna have this day regardless
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: of Rock arms or not played. But I like Rock.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I think he's a good back and I think he's
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: gonna help this team. Tony, did you watch the Yes, Yes, okay,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: they were rotating richardson Can. Now the big run came
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: when Can was in there. They I thought they both
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: played well. And I'm not just I'm not trying to
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: take the easy way they really do. I think they
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: both played well. I would take nothing away from either
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: one of them. Now, the other part of the offensive line.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: We get who the Jaguars are playing yesterday in Denver
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: with Chubb and von Miller and all that. But the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback got hit wealth times. There were penalties on the outside,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: some false starts, um faces. So how did they fair
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: and past protection? All that? Yes, what would you score
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: them if you had to? I'm not gonna score them.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Let me give you some background of the situation they
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: were playing in, because it matters. Not every game's the same,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: and not every opponent's the same, and even the same
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: guy isn't the same guy depending on where you play him.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: So Mile Eyes one of the most difficult places to
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: play in the NFL. Number when you're at altitude, so
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: getting your breath early an issue. Number Two, it is
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: one of the loudest stadiums in the NFL. It's a
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: great fan base and they know when to get loud.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Number three, and maybe most importantly, Chubb and Miller are
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: to the best outside rushers in all of football. And
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: everyone said, well they no sacks coming in. Okay, go
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: watch the tape. They were very close several times. And
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: the other thing is the ball out they got be hind.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: They had very few opportunities to rush the pastor they
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: got a lead in this game, to score lead, and
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: they got it going and they put the Jags in
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: some long situations in the first half. So with all
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: that said, you have a rookie on the right side.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: You want Taylor first, first real matchup with a great player,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: and at times I thought he did great. We just
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: showed the one he got beat on the sack. One
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: of the more difficult situations where a tackle, it's a
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: play action pass tied into your side. Miller's lined up outside,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: that's his responsibility. Excuse me, play action pass. You hope
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: the defender like recognize it's a run. The problem when
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: you're playing a speed rusher. They don't care about the run,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: and so you have a deep drop by the quarterback.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: You're in a three point stance. He's wide and I
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: think Taylor just didn't of it enough respect or understand
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: what he was going to face in that black and
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: pass that he was gonna get nothing from the play
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: action fake to the running back. So he can't get anything.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: There's no way he gets more depth on that. You
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: have to yeah, yeah, I mean you have to literally
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: open up and go Either there's two ways to do that.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: You literally open up and go after him like your
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: run literally run blocking him. So do you show the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: run and like he's like okay, or you're just a
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: vertical set like it's third down pass. Uh protection that
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: he didn't do it. It's a learning experience, so you're
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: gonna see uh. But overall, I thought, I thought, you
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: want Taylor handle himself finding that game. Let's come back.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: We're up against here. We'll be back. More of this
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: offensive line talk when we come back. Yeah, I got
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: more to break down the line. I want to hear
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: how the two interior guys played like that, and I
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: want to talk about Cam too. I like that We'll
• 55:50
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  Speaker 1: just kind of had this vibe going with me to
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  Speaker 1: tell these guys, hey, we gotta bring our own juice,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: we gotta bring our own sauce. When we bring our
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  Speaker 1: lunch pails to work, nobody can touch us. And that
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  Speaker 1: is exactly why you played for sixty minutes? Was that
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  Speaker 1: game today? You played for the full sixty I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to hold on to a lead in this league,
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  Speaker 1: So these guys amazing. I mean I think I have
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: four field goals and the first one's maybe forty yards
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  Speaker 1: our offenses moving the ball as obviously a great job. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: playing all sixty minutes. You can't You can't speak enough
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  Speaker 1: for these guys characters. It's Josh Lambeau, Jaguar's kicker. He
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: had the game winning yesterday and three other field goals.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: You gotta bring your own juice, gotta bring your own sauce, Tony,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: So I need more sauce out of you. I'm gonna
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: be careful here because I love Lambeau. He is really
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: good in his job. I mean really good. But that's
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: the first like me here in the kickers say we
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: need to bring more juice and sauce, and well, he
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: prefaced it by saying, usually kickers should be seen the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: nut hear. I was like, but here we go lunch,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: pale juice, sauce. Like what lunch, pale juice and sauce
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: did you bring for the sixty minutes outside the Kicksie made?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. No, No, you're you're missing my point.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: He brings the juice in the sauce every game. I
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: mean he is. He's one of the best, if not
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: the best, in the NFL. Right now, if you look
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: at the numbers. I just find it funny when you
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: start talking about a sixty minute game. We need to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: bring the juice and the saucer six ki. I love it.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I love Lambau. He's awesome. I just found it. It's funny.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I mean my locker was right next
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: to the Holliston barker so in the old day. So
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I know what these kickers are like. And I'm not
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: an anti kicker guy. Actually you need them. I mean
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: they win games for you, and Lambo wins games for you.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I just find it funny when they start talking about
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: like bringing juice. Like although I gotta give him credit
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Thursday night, he brought the juice. He had a tackle.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, I'll give Lambeau credits he did. It
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: was like no doubt he was stepping out there and
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: making that kick. It was easy. I was honestly not
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: worried about it, just because he makes them all Now.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I would have been a little more worried had Cam
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Robinson gotten a penalty or something at the end there
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: because it was so it was so windy. That's again
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: another example of guys getting out of control in key moments.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: That was terrible what was he doing. Well, I couldn't
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: really tell from the TV guys, you might have been
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: able to see a better than me Tony. What was
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: that all about. I'm pretty sure because I you're calling
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: the game, so you don't see everything. I think he
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: had something to do with how Leonard four Nette was
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: being tackled at the end of the game, Justin Simmons
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: was wrenching his neck, and so Cam's job is to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: go protect his guy. He kept it going and went
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: too far with the protection, and Leonard and other guys
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: were trying to get him a stop, and he wouldn't stop.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Like he was like, that's where you gotta again. I
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: go back to self control. It's okay to pull a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: guy off and get your guy up. You're not gonna
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: get a flag for that. If it's if you're not
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: throwing punches and being stupid, especially the other guys. Yankee
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: and said, you can put your guy off, get your
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: guy up, but then it's over. Especially you have to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: understand the situation of the game, and like, even if
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you're gonna lose it, when like five different teammates come
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: up to you and tell you to stop, you gotta stop.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: And Cam kept on going, so they you can't put
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: an opposing player off the pile. Now when I say
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: what I mean, you can stop him from ripping your
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: guy's head off, like you can. You can stop. I'm
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: not saying pull him off violently and start a fight,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: but you can stop. We're not going to demonstrate here.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I can do with you. But he was wrenching us out.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: You can stop that and help your guy get up.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: It's my point, Pete. But then when Minshew tried to stop,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: and he kind of got on him a little bit.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Now you can't have that. It's too much. It's out
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: of control. But there it's fifteen yards the field goal, swirling,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: swirling wind. It was so windy yesterday. But now the
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: one thing I was worried about. If I and I
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: want to go back and listen, I have Joe listened
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: to the broadcast. I'm pretty sure Frank did the one
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: thing you never do if you're the home broadcaster when
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you're going to kick the game winner, you don't read
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: out his stats. These made like the last forty field
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: goals in a row. No, you don't do that. It's
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: like you don't talk into no hitter. I did it
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: all the time. He put the curse on. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: he came. He overcame it. You don't say that, Okay, Joe,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: trying your micro quick question for you. I called two
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: hitots and I said, no hitter the whole game stop.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: If you are being a professional broadcaster with respect for
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the game and the players, I'll go to baseball because
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: you're a huge baseball fan, Phillies, even though the stink
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: um big Philly fan. Would you recommend if you're producing
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: as you do for us and there's a no hitter
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: going on, would you tell your play by play guy
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: hey talking about no hitter in the sixth inning or
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: the seventh inning. I would answer that for you. But
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: you said professional broadcasters, and I can't. You can't relate
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: to anything like that. Okay, how about any podcaster? How
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: about I don't want to hear it? You guys, all right,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: So you don't want to hear it. You don't want
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: to hear it. So do you think Frank should have
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: done that? I'm not Frank more than if you're a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: professional broadcaster, Tony. So what you're saying is Frank's not
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: a professional. No, I said he was. I was trying
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: to say it basically, Joe said, he's not. I mean,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: if you really want to come down to it. I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: was just trying to say, Franks professional and if you're
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: if you're talking like that, I'm gonna tell Frank make
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: sure lock him it gets more airtime. And he's been
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: getting no. That was Joe. I actually said he's a professional.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Just to get the question answered. I said, what if
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: it's non professional? Can we move along here? Would you say, Pete,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: do you think it's okay to say yeah? I don't believe. Yes,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I don't either, But it's ridiculous, Tony, what are you?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Um? Lambeau overcame and he's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: so good. He overcame even it's amazing, right, how good
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: he is? Um? So offensive? One. We touched on Cam
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Robinson at the end of the game. How did he
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: play the earlier parts of the game. Yeah, I mean
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: so we talked about the twelve hits, but you know
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: sacks by job it was a two for by one
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: and a half, right Chub and I think two by
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: von Miller or something like that. They had big days.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: That's with that number holding penalties, hands in the face
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: by Cam on the big touchdown to Chart at the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: end of the first half, it was and it wasn't.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Then Chubb got him back putting his hands in his face.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Are you sure it was? I mean, you're not allowed
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: to have both hands in the guy's face and massage it.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe he was given the facial trying to help them anyways, Um,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: it was a penalty. I agree. Uh. I can't remember Camp.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: This is his second game really coming off the knee,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: and at times I thought he was really good. It
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: looked like to me at the end in some of
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: his sets, his legs he got, his legs got tired
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: because he got he straightened up a little bit and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: he was not as good late in the game. And
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I think that's more conditioning than anything. But what I
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: love about Cam he's physical. He brings the nastiness to him.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: He needs to control himself the end of the game,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: no doubta. But but he's a there's a physical presence
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: to him. Um. I think it's gonna get better as
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: the season goes on. He had a tough assignment on
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: the road, very difficult. The better I mean Cam, and
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: I've said this to him and I'll say it everyone,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: the more Cam gets consistent with his feet. Cam is
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be very hard to beat because he's so talented
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: and so athletic and so big, and you see it
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: violent and you see it at times, but you see
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: the fatigue and the rust come out also where he
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: gets a little messed up with his feet and I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: gets lazy with his feet, and that's a problem. But
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I give both those guys, and if you
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: base it on the situation what they're facing, no B
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: minus is probably overall because you have to look at
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the their part of the run game. They blocked physical
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: in the run game, maybe bees, because you have to
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: look at the whole thing. Everyone. Here's the what I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: hate about the sack. You know, they said, you know, oh,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: you gave up a sack. So if I sat here
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: and told you, okay, Cam Robinson gave up a sack
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: and he had two holding penalties. They played seventy snaps,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: the other set sixty seven snaps. He buried Bradley Chubb
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: every play and blocked him down the field. You're telling
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: me that's a bad game, right, That's like I get
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: really annoyed. These sacks take so much like everyone focuses
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: on that because the defensive linement. I played him before
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: were I played a guy and I'm not gonna say
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: he was one time, I'm not and I I kicked
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: his tail the entire game. Oh, he got a sack.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: It was a late sack where Mark was stepping up.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: It was not a great pass set by me. I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: got a little bit too much soft in the pocket
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: and he got a sack. That was it. No, it wasn't.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: We played seventy snaps. He had one play, but based
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: on the judgment of an offensive lineman like I had
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: a bad day, who wasn't Pete. That wasn't a regular
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: season game where Oh no, Bruce Smith got a sack
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: in the regular season game where where he came inside
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: on the card it was actually hit. It wasn't a sack.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: It was a sack. Ye it was. I went back
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: and don't you remember somebody said, oh, he gave up
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: a sack to Bruce Smith, And I said, I went
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: back and watched the game and he came out a sack. Yeah.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: But but okay, let's see, okay, I'll let me go
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: back to Bruce Smith. Let's say Bruce Smith did get
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: a sack. Let's say he did. We played three d
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: snaps against each other, and you're telling me because he
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: got one sack that matters, you got a point. I mean,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: this is what that's my problem with how we do
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: offensive line. Now. It's a big negative play and so
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: you don't want to be giving up a bunch of them.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I get it, But in on the road against really
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: good players, my goal is always to have a shutout.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: No sacks, no tackles, nothing, play perfect. It's not gonna
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: always happen. They get paid too. I give those guys credit.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him a b. I mean, yeah, it
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: needs to be better. Once a rookie, once coming off
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: a c L there you can see improvement. I'm you know,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: they won the football game. I don't want that many
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: hits up. That line has a chance to grow together
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: and become a nasty, physical, violent, good quality line. The
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: only way they do that, though, Pete is yes, they
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: have to continue to work. They need to improve, and
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I like what George Warhop is doing is a very
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: good coach. Flip offensive Cordiner has to call games the
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: way he did against Denver, and you're not always gonna
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: have that production. But you need to be committed you know,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Leonard for data, I think against the Titans had five
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: runs at halftime, maybe six. You can't go into I mean,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: your bell cow back can't have five or six carries
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: and no one else is getting any at halftime of
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: any game. And and then Leonard Ford that needs to
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: run with the decisiveness, the downhill nature, the power back
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: mentality like he did. If those three things happen, then
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: it will allow the offensive line to be physical and
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: it's gonna make the past walking much easier as well.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: How do you think Norwell and Linda play? Because Norwal
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: has been abysmal heading into that game. I just me,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I think abysmal is wrong. I've watched the tape. Um
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: he's been very physical. Uh they I thought he's really
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: been a good combo blox. So I I think abysmal
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: is the wrong thing. I think he's been fine. I
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: don't think it's bad either. I think it's you know right,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: you know, like it rade of guard or something based
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: on who, based on who. Yeah, you know, Jalen Ramsey
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: was the corner. You're telling me there's eighty four corners.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Hold one. No, you can't have it both ways. You're
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: gonna take eighty four guys in front of Jalen no
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: been shut up, shut up telling you what I I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: didn't think he's played well, Well, you're wrong, um uh
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: what do you think he's playing? Good? Guard? Average? I thought,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: but not abysmal and bad. No, not at all, Okay,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: an average. I thought the interior three played outstanding. Well,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about yesterday. I'm talking about leading into yesterday.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I said average, leading into outstanding. Yesterday. You rushed for
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: two rush all three of them. They were out all
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: four of them because Kennon uh and uh uh Richardson
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: swapped yesterday. Yesterday they were outstanding. Okay, they were physical
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: at to the next level, good combo blocks. I might
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: have to go. I might, for the sake of this
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: show today. I might have to call up those PFF
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: grades and see what they are. Oh my goodness. I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: don't care. I don't think actually, I don't think I
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: can get him. I get the seasonal grade. I don't
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: think I get game by game grades. I don't care.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Last week you didn't you agree with me on Norwell,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden you suddenly change it too. Yeah,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: you didn't say he was abysible I say he's the
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: middle of the road guard. That's what he's been thought.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: He's been fine. He's been fine, not great, not bad,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: not good, he's been fine. He's been it's been solid.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: I never like you. You you literally started off normal,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: has been abysible. He's Sean Bowen's no, he's not. Look
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: at the look you remember that one he was a
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: bad free agent signing. I mean he's been fine right now.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: If you have to sum it up, he's not a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: good free agent sign Well. The danger with that conversation
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: is you usually overpay for free agency, and based on
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: the pay aren't so you always overpay? Like rarely do
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: you get clay As Campbell where you feel like you're
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: under paying for a free agent. It doesn't happen. It
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen. So like that's like you always overpay. That's
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: the market. That's how it works for the tier one guys,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: you overpay. Al Right, guys, let's come back at social
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: questions are next. We got some doozies today on Twitter.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: This will be right up your alley talk. I can't wait.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: You're gonna love these then we win? Why is this
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: so aggressive? Everybody's you know you're being angry today. You're
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: you're testy because Pete is the pain and that you
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: know what, No, I don't know what. Ass well am
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: I to say that we're on the right now, Because
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like that, I put you on the sorry circles.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: I don't go on circle, you go in circles. You
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: started off saying you don't care about PFF and Jalen
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: you know, YadA ya YadA, and then you go norwall
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: and I said, well, then Jalen says, you take it well, No,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: I don't mean not only for this one. I'll take
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: it here, but not here. Remember you mentioned an old
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: guard's name. His face contorts like you just sucked on
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: a limit. God Lee awful, Pete, You're not good today, Pete,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: you're not at your best. Sorry, I'm this might have
• 1:14:41
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• 1:14:43
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  Speaker 1: before we get to the ones online today. Um, Tony,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: you have, I got one online. It just didn't come
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: through the traditional uh means or medium? How did it
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  Speaker 1: come via text? Oh? That's okay, good. So it's it's digital.
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  Speaker 1: It's an inside source, inside source, so it's more of
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  Speaker 1: a comment and it's towards you, Pete. So I'll let
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: you respond to the comment. Mark Bronell text and right
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: after the last segment and said Pete is abysmal. Please
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: share that with him on the air. So I just
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: wanted to communicate that from eight to you, Pete, that
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: you're abysmal. What are you talking about? I'm just telling
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: you he thinks your takes your information, your your performance
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: on the show. Is he literally he knows how easy
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: it is to get underneath your skin, and that's like
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: he used to do. So he knows I'm winning. That's
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: my quarterback. Easy to you. I'm just saying, so that's
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: the first comment you want to respond. There was a
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: deep thought. Pete is a business, and you know what,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I figured that as much. Let's move.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: I was glad it's one. I'm winning. The show is
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: basically what Mark saying, thank you very much. Well, you
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: know he's sticking up for his friend. Is Yes he is,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Yes he is. I know he loves when I did
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: you to no end. He loves it, as does the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: whole city of Jacksonville. And I don't mind it either. Well,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: I've been getting comments lately out in the public that
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: they think you're well off your rocker. I don't want
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: to tell you that. That's not the comments I get
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: when I was out in public in Jacksonville. That's what
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing. That's I'm nice. The fans they used to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: call it to me all the time, they go, I
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: can't believe Tony Boselli is always hanging up on those
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: people and yelling, screaming, at him. I never hung up
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: at anybody. I might yell screamed. So we can't take
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: calls anymore, Thanks, Tony, geez, that's what we gotta do.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Social media questions now, the first one today at a
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: breaker how many weeks? Just meant you need to perform
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: like a starter before the coaches start to question what
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: to do with Folds after the season. Now, we've talked
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: about when Fols is health, Fols is gonna be here
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: for a while, right, well, you have two years. I
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: don't think you can move him for two years based
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: on how the contracts structured and the guarantees. And I
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: think we're I think, yeah, I mean that's way premature.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. Literally, four weeks ago we were
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: ecstatic and could not wait for the Nick Foles era.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Four weeks later and by the way, all the guy
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: did is go six for eight with a touchdown before
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: he got hurt. And now we're like, how do we
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: get rid of him in the off season? Are you
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: kidding me? I'm not. I mean, he's well, not only well,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: not on that Tony when he went down. Everybody goes
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: on seasons over Yeah, I mean, I want to remind
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: everyone listening. He literally threw a bomb on the n
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: on the money to chart as he's getting hammered to
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: make it a ten seven game, and he was after
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: a huge third down version where he scrambled in the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: pocket by time. I I would if I won't read
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: it because maybe it's one of your questions. Someone, I'll
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: read it because you can cross it off and it
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: is one of the guys, says well Folds doesn't make
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: that play that mits you did to rock Rock Armstead.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you How do you know that
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: number one? Number two? Number two? He the play he
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: made in third down that set up the long patch.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: The chart is the crossing route two uh too calmly
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: where he steps up, avoids Chris Jones and fires a baby.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean we're like, I love
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, He's awesome. But let's not forget like we
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Nick Foles, like four weeks ago we thought was the guy,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: and he's done nothing to change the fact that he
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: still might be the guy. Question number two stefollowest Prime
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: over the UK, asking how long until we see all
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: three of you with the headbands, aviators and must ashes. Yeah,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: I got my growing one though. Yeah, my mustaches is
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: very weak, very weak, and my wife hates it. And
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: I like my wife more than I do minsh you Mania,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: although if he wins four more in a row, I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: might choose mensh you um headband and aviators. I'll go
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: with tomorrow someone will buy me a headband and give
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: me aviators. I'm not gonna go pay for him. But
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: it's like a sponsor deal you want me to do.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm a I can't grow a mustache,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: so forget about that. Um, can you can? You have
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: no facial hair? No, I can't. We lost We lost
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: about the facial hair. Yeah I can. Um, I have
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: issues drawing hair in two places my head and above
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: my lip everywhere everywhere else say it, you know, but
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: it's a trouble. So I can't do the mustache thing. Um.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: I got a big aviator guy around if they so
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: you can grow hair everywhere else. So if like, let's not,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: let's not get to like if he was like sport
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: and like the hair, the back hair, you'd be all
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: in you could you could do that. I could compete.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: I like it. I'm not a headband guy. Either's wear
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: hats I'm saying, I'm the back hair. There's no pizza
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: back with us. You're the kid, You're the kick in
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: the back hair. You came back. I don't want to that.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't own it. I don't even own
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: a headband and I don't own aviators. I will be
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: fine wearing both in support of the mania. Let's move
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: on to at Anti Tin tin XL boy. That's not nice.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: From Tony's experience, what is said and what happens during
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: halftime in the locker room to come out focused and
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: look like a completely different team. That's what the Jags
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: did yesterday. That a question, Yeah, what what he said?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: And what happens? Are you paying attention? You know? Um? What? Um?
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: You know? Their minor adjustments. I think it it was
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: a game that they got the interception, got the field goal,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: and so they felt like, hey, we're down eleven, we
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: get the ball, let's go put together a drive. I'm
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: sure the coordinator, the offensive coaches got together with the
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: offensive line in the backs and everyone say, hey, this
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: is what we need to protection wise, here's the changes.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: This is what we like in the run game. What
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: do you guys like? So they asked that, and I
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: said it on the broadcast. Then the key to whatever
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: is said in the locker room making a difference, in
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: my opinion, is really that first drive is really critical
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: because if you have success there, it's the momentum that
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: kind of carries you throughout, especially when you're down. And
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: so they got they had immediate success based on what
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: they discussed in the locker room, and then it just
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, confidence begets confidence, success begets success.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: The next thing you know, you're you know this rolling,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Avalanche just keeps on gaining momentum, and you
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: see what that's what happened. That's what happens on one
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: of those field goals. Did they were they going to
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: run some trick play? Yeah? So, um they it was, uh,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: it was the game. It was the one to go
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: in that made it a six point game. So it
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: was righting for the Broncos. Got the ball and went
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: and scored a touchdown. It's fourth down and they tried
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: like to sneak a guy on the sideline and so
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: everyone runs off, but d D didn't run off the field.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: He stopped right on the sideline. The rest of the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: field goal team lined up and lined up. You know,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: they kicked the field goal and it's one of those
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: players that Doug Morone city there watching if they did
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: not recognize that d D was sitting on the field,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: which our entire radio booth missed except for one person. Um,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: I won't mention who that person was me. Um. The
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: they staffed the ball and the punter, we'll throw it
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: to d D and they'll walk in touchdown. If the
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: guy walks out even halfway, called time out, reset, kicked
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: the field goal and that's what they did about that
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: didn't work, though, Let's move on at real Steve Hassan
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: asking what can be done to prevent penalties caused by
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: the offensive line and a bunch yesterday. I mean, this
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: is a general question, but that's a false start, no reasons.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: False starts at the prestnet penalty. It's mental now it
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: can be exasperated or um be pushed towards happening if
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: you're on the road and it's a loud and you're
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: playing a real good player, because now you get anxious
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: and you're trying to jump the count. And that's what
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: those happened. That's what happened there. As far as holding
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: in and other stuff. It's part of the game. I mean,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: that's technique. The better the more technique, the better your
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: technique is, the less penalties you'll have because you'll be
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: in the right position. But sometimes it just happens. You're playing.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: It gets a good player, things happen. It goes fast.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Official see something like the Lender Hold Lender had a
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: holding penalty at the end of the game, the one
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Pete was talking about where he he thought they should
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: just take a knee and by the rule, like if
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: you really technically wanted to say, is it a whole Well,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: his hands were outside, his hands got outside. But here's
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: the thing that happens all the time you show you
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: a thousand plays, it doesn't. They usually only call that
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: if the hands are outside and you restrict the movement
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: of the player. Well, he was moving, his feet were
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: in front of the player, and as soon as the
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: player got outside his body he let go. So like
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: more times than not, you're not gonna see that call.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: The way you clean it up is just you know,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Linda has to have a little better technique. But that's
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: a that's a tickie tack one. And then there's others
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: that you know Tony on that instead of get his hands,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: and his hands got outside, but get get his body
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: outside of him first, kind of going that way. No,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: he's gone. I mean his footwork was fine. He just
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: missed on his hands, so they're outside. So the only
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: way to correct it. I mean what he was trying
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: to do is just keep his body in front of
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: him because then they typically don't call it and you
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: release if he gets going, and he did that. I mean,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: if you really want to do it right, you gotta
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: get your hit your spot the first time. And if
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: you miss your spot, then you gotta replace your hands
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: as you're running your feet not easy, so I gotta
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: bring your hands back inside quick, especially the play side one.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: The backside one doesn't matter as much. It's that play
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: side one because they see any movement and they see
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: that hand, they're they're gonna call it, but they usually
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: don't if your bodies with them. And I thought he
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: I thought he released it in time. And the other
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: one they called in Juwan Taylor. That was a that
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: was a von Miller penalty. It wasn't a penalty where
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: where Mitche scrambled outside and hit the first down. He
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't first of all, he's a great position. He's blocking
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: von Miller, so now Mitchell does makes it so hard
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: on him because you don't know where the quarterback is.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: He starts running out and the guy releases, and your
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: natural reactions to grab him, so he doesn't release. Lan
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: Taylor doesn't. He actually let's go and they called the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: penalty like they were expecting it. That was one of
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: those calls, the officials throwing the flag expecting the right
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: tackle the whole Von Miller's kind of like the J.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Watton a couple of weeks exactly the same thing. That's
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: that was a terrible call, by the way, terrible. I
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: didn't think I didn't think that was a very good
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: call at all. Now some of them like Cam, he's
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: like hand massaging his like Bradley Chump. It was I
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: could have called it from the box of the move
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: and like me, Cam's a tall guy, and you have
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: to really pay attention because tall guys you get your hands,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: you get high hands when you're punching, and you get
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: your high hands and get him into the face mask. Today,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: like in the old days, you could like if you
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: hit the face mask and got it, got him off.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't call it now. They would have called I mean,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty, when you could basically kill somebody on
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: the football field, they would have called Cam for hands
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: to the face. That's how bad it was. Um, but
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: you've got to be smart and so okay, that's just
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: hand placement. It just reps. And so that's how you
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: fixed penalties. All right, we saved a doozy for the last.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna love this one. This is from Camo nine
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: oh four. Is the only way to please Jalen Ramsey
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: and Telvin Smith to fire Tom Coughlin? If so, will
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: that rejuvenate the team? Well, I gotta answer, not answer.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: That's a dumb question. That's my answer. The team is
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: really they won? Yes or two and two? They won?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Go tweet that at somebody else. I mean, I don't care.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't that's a dumb question there, two
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: and two. I'm not answering that question. JPP, you want
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  Speaker 1: to go ahead. I think it's a dumb answer. It's
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: a dumb question. And you know, like you don't. You know,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: that's what I said. That's unanswered. Like getting rid of
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: front office executives is stupid. Why do we bringing up
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: Kelvin Smith anyway, What in the world that's like eons ago?
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: There's nothing to do with this right now? Who is he?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't remember him, but I don't even know what
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: that question has anything to do with it. Why are
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: we talking about either of those guys? They had nothing
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: to do with the game this weekend. Well, Jalen was
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: on the sideline. Okay, that's great. I hope he plays
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: this week like is and why I like fired Tom?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Is that show? Is that question? Like assuming the reason
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: that Talb is not playing or Jalen requesting your trades
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: because of Tom Coughlin? Is that what he's saying? Please?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Supposedly Jalen and Tom Coughlin don't get along. Well, okay,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: it's I'm not let's move on, move on, dumb question.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: But no, no, you shouldn't fire Tom. Call for that.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: I told you it was a doozy. The last one
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. We're gonna have to edit. I'm
• 1:32:38
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• 1:32:41
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• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: can you do? What's my show? I thought you were
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• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: You're leaving. Why was that leaving? Because you said you
• 1:32:54
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• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: for an hour and a half. You want to go ahead,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: I'll leave right now, he said, do it. You didn't
• 1:33:00
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• 1:33:05
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• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: your Power rankings one? Uh nobody? Yeah, if they're all together,
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  Speaker 1: aren't they? I got I got a list, Give me
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  Speaker 1: your list. Okay, I'd probably Oh, I mean, you probably
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  Speaker 1: have to put Jackson the number one right now. After
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: what happened this weekend. I would no Textans number one,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: they beat them right, correct? In sections one, Jaguars, t Colts, three,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Titans four wrong. Let me tell you the right anchor.
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  Speaker 1: I'll start from the bottom up. Number four is easy.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Titans, okay, Tennessee. Yeah, they're only two in
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: the division. We beat them. Uh, Colts beat them, you
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: know that's where that was easy. That's easy, alright. Three,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go the culture. Number three, Indianapolis. Okay, it's
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: looking the same as pizza so far. Right now, it's
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: exactly the same because uh, because indian Houston. I'm not
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: playing yet, no, no, um, but I'm having questions a
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: little bit. I'm to let the Oakland Raiders come into
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: your house and do that. I know. Yeah, no normally
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Cooker no, Darius Leonard, I don't care. You couldn't move
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: with the pall on a bad defense. So I got
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: questions there. Number three or number two? Sorry, I'm going back.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: So number four was Tennessee. Number three is in the
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: number two now is next is the Houston Texans. They're
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: the third team. They got beat by the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: Will be cemented when we go beat the Panthers. Just
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: and by the way, I'll talk about whether I'm gonna
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: lock it or not in the next segment. I locked
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: last week. I'm two and one with locks. Want to know,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: with double locks. So it's trending in the right direction
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: so far. I mean, you gotta beat Tennessee a second time. No,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: it's done, it's over. You have to be Tennessee a second.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: It's a lock. It was a double lock. It's still
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: out there. It's in the wind column right now because
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: of win and not win. No, you're wrong. Okay, So
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: the Texans are too. They lost the Panthers. The reality
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: is we're better than they are. We went for two
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: one play is the first game this kids ever started,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: mit shoes just getting warmed up. The run game. We
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: were focused on it. We focused. Look what happens. We're
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: better than the Texans. We've won two in a row.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: They've lost one in a row. Two wins is better
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: than one loss. We're number one, their number two. We're
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: at the top of the power rankings that way. Because
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't want you to take my thunder. I take
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: it thunder every time we're on this, Joe, what are
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: you talking about? So you have exactly the same way
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: I do. No, you had no conviction. If you had
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: real conviction, Pete, you would have kept it that way.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: You're wishy washy. You ride the fence. You ride the
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: fence a lot. I read your stuff. Beat it. You're
• 1:41:06
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• 1:41:09
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• 1:41:12
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• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: the homer. I am what side of you. I'm doing
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: it literally for literally, because because I believe you. Literally
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: you just like example, fied what the fence writers all about.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: You within one sentence, went from one side to the
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: other side of what teams you're picking and why you're picking?
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: I said, Jagguards one, Houston to Tennessee four. You're not
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  Speaker 1: and you copy my paper like I didn't copy years.
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  Speaker 1: You said Houston. You're the You're the kid in school
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  Speaker 1: and I see wrote every paper. Never had anyone write
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  Speaker 1: a paper for me, No tutors, didn't pay anyone, no girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: I wrote every one of my paper that work by
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• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: how come JP writes all your little ten second, that's
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: a great question. I was about to bring that up.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: That's out of paper, that's out of need of time
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  Speaker 1: and energy and focus. So right, and he owes me dinner.
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  Speaker 1: So and he owes me dinner. So my time is
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: not as valuable as yours is yourself. I mean, everyone
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  Speaker 1: remember that next time. Next time, next time, somebody at
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: USC that could find us at least one or two
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: of those papers. Oh my god, it would be priceless.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: It would be Academic All America. It's a postgraduate recipient,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: National Football Foundation. Yeah, they give you grades and common
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  Speaker 1: actually form the business school with real estate finance. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: come on the numbers, person, Baby boy, it's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's act nothing. I'm taking nothing. Tony, I played football
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  Speaker 1: for the USC Trojans. I am also in this class.
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  Speaker 1: Please give me an a for this paper. You got it, son, Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: that's not true. I mean it's a good thing you
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  Speaker 1: had the academic national title because all they went to
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  Speaker 1: is the Freedom Bowl for two years. Not true. Cotton
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  Speaker 1: went to the Cotton Bowl, Thank you very much. Sun Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Don't forget the Sun Bowl? JP, How could you forget
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: the Sun Bowl? And I'll pass, So let's come back. Um, Listen,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: everything I said it's true. What Pete said is a lie.
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• 1:43:59
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  Speaker 1: coming up this week Week five, So very good d Fence.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: I've not done tape study yet, but I covered them
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  Speaker 1: two Thursdays ago when they played Tampa. They lost the
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  Speaker 1: Tampa they lost because Cam Newton was not very good.
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  Speaker 1: They're better right now with Kyle Allen playing pretty well,
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  Speaker 1: he's won two in a row. Uh, and the whole
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  Speaker 1: team is playing better. I think you can run against
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: him a little bit. Tampa Bay did and uh not
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  Speaker 1: in huge yards, but I think there's some opportunities there
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  Speaker 1: and uh it'll be interest. I think it's a great opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: It's would be a tough matchup. Chris McCaffrey is one
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  Speaker 1: of the best backs. He might be the best all
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  Speaker 1: around back in football, all around, better than Camara. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I take him. Yeah. Wow, Now I probably
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: take Sea Kwan over McCaffrey. Now he's the number one though, yeah,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: because Sake one's out. But if Sa Kwan is healthy,
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  Speaker 1: yeah I take I take Sea Kwan. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: McCaffrey's go look at his numbers. He's like doing stuff
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  Speaker 1: that no one's done since like Jim Brown. Um. So,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: tough matchup on the road. It's the you know, d games,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: back to back road games. It's a ribbalry based on
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: when we came in the league together. Yeah, I mean
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: just historical standpoint. Players don't care about now the players.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying this historical. There's like there's like some
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: history there. Um what that you came in the league together. JP,
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  Speaker 1: don't ruin this. I don't say stuff like they compare
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  Speaker 1: each other to each other all the time. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: right right, Joe, thank you, all right. All I know
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  Speaker 1: is when we go there, they're gonna have twenty five
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  Speaker 1: patches on their jerseys. Yeah, it's like there's like some
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  Speaker 1: history there. Shut up alright, ruining the whole thing. Um
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  Speaker 1: so uh, I had this team as all the ton
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: of momentum. So do they. Though we've won two in
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: a row, they've wanted to and we started owing to.
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  Speaker 1: They start overing to. Everyone was burying the Jaguars. Everyone
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: was burying them. Ever back up quarterback. They have their
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: backup quarterback. We have a back that was drafted ahead
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: of their back. It's a great matchup. I think the
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: Jags go down there, they lay the smack down, smack
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  Speaker 1: seven seventeen Jaguars points on that defense. That defense has
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: what fourteen sacks the last two weeks. Okay, there's a lock. Wow,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: I can't lock twenty seven. I will lock seventeen. That's
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: the lock Jaguars. But my gut says something about twenty
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: seven for the Jags. So if they get twenty seven
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: on that defense and win, and you're gonna come in
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: here next Monday and you're gonna say there's no way
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: they can take him into you out. So Joe just
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: made a good point. It might be just because Leonard
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: for Net at the big game, he's number twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I was in my head. So I like
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  Speaker 1: I I can lock seventeen. I'm two and one in
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: locks right now. I'm hot they're gonna win. Puit avoiding
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: the question. If he just asked, you know it's locked
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: it the lock. You're gonna keep mint you in after that,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: then I'm two and one in the lock. That's what
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: we're doing going with. Hey, by the way, that pass
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: rush they better block, they better block it. But here's
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: the other thing I think Jacksonville can get after the
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: quarterback next week. I'm not I'm not enamored with that offensive.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: Tampa absolutely annihilated him. Yep, um, But you gotta tell
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: you little now at left Yeah, he's better at left
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: tackle than the kid who's really right tackle. Would you
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: call him? Would you call him a businal? No? Since
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: that's the hot word tonight. Uh, you gotta stop McCaffrey man,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: and they got two fast receivers outside DJ Moore, Chris
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: Samuel Samuel. Of them, I can fly. They're good. Tighten,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: They're good, They're better. I don't care what anyone says.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen him both. I've seen him with Cam. I've
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: seen him with Kyle Own. They're better with Kyle down
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: than there with camwig do with the the better with
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: Kyle Allen than they are with a broken down Caam
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: right as it stands, right now, yes, right now, a right.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: So Tony locked to Peter, you're gonna lock it. Pete
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: didn't lock anything. He has no guts defense. He's defense
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: fens writer. Let's touch on some of the games around
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. Yesterday, the Browns got their second win.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Nick Chubb scored three times in the game for Cleveland.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: Baltimore has given a lot of points the last two
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: weeks in that defense, and they gave up a lot
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: of yards Arizona to the week before that. Baltimore's defense
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: isn't the same. It's not very good right now. No,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: not what they think. They are. No Patriots over the
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: Bills sixteen ten. This could have gotten away from the Bills,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: but they kind of stuck around after an interception near
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: the goal one early sixteen ten, the Patriots, who two
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: great defenses, by the way, great defenses, and you know
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: what they actually the defense actually limited Tom Brady the
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: entire game. I mean they destroyed him too bad interceptions,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: two really bad ones, and he took the shot man
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: that was a vicious shot. And we were watching that
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: game early Pete Alan could not hit the broadside of
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: a barn just first. His first seven throws weren't even close.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: But you know what, Tony, you know how it is
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: when you play that that Patriots defense. They showed those
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: young quarterbacks so many different things. Their head starts spinning.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: They're good. That secondary is playing as good as any
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Patriots secondary ever has, by the way, better woman with
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: Harrison and Tyler. Yes, because thinking about this, Gilmore arguably
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: the best corner in the league. Mccordy on the other
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: sides out playing him. The nickelback is playing right next
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: to you as you well as both of them, and
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: Devin mccordy is playing out of his mind. Wow, what
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: a statement. So Jason mccordy's out playing Stephan Gilmore right now, Yes,
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched yesterday's tape, but up until last yesterday
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: he was, Okay, I'm doing New England and uh, next
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: week go to New England, who got the game that
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: looked like a dog three weeks ago, four weeks ago
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: Patriot Giants. I think could be a fun game, although
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jones going against the Belichick defense rookies don't fare
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: very well. Yeah, because if the Giants beat Dividings this
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: week there three and two and claim at home. Well,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs got a third team play touchdown drive and
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: scored with twenty seconds to go to knock off the
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Lions yesterday. Well, and they had the big and p
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't see the end of it, but it sounds
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: like my home's had a big fourth and eighth scramble
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: to extend the drive. Yeah, they were disjointed yesterday a
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: little bit. It didn't look an Tony You'll know this too,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: but the interior of the Kansas City offensive line could
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: be a problem going forward. Uh, it just showed up
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit yesterday. He was getting flushed out of
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: the pocket on the interior and you know, not having
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Mitch Morrison there and and the left guard's not that good.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: That could be a problem going forward for I wonder
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: if they go back to because they've kind of rotated
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and uh, I can't think of the
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: kid's name, but if they go back to the Florida State,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: Uh cam Irving who was the left guard? Left tackle now?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: Because the fisher's out. When the fisher get hurt two
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, I didn't know that. I stopped paying attention.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: He's not he's not good either. No, how how long
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: is fish are out for another couple of weeks? I
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: think I got them in three weeks in Denver, Chargers
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: Dolphins was tied tin tin and the Chargers scored twenty
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: on answered to run away with it. Chargers are the
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: are the most beat up team in the NFL. It's
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: unreal every year you say the same thing, right, it's
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: out of control. They've lost three tight ends and their
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: two top after Keenan out and there had too Benjamin
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: and Mike Williams out there. They have like Derwin James
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: and Jenkins, the guy who would placed them were both out.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: They have like four dbs out. Um o'gon hasn't played
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: all year. No left tackle. They signed on Thursday or Friday,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: to off the street. Uh wide receivers that had to
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: play on Sunday. Yeah, it's terrible. Belvil Gordon's coming back though. Yeah,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: we'll see how how he plays when he gets back
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: in the line. Takes awful. By the way, they're not
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: gonna win. Do you think they're going over in sixteen? Well,
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: unless they beat the Jets at home, that's or the
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: Red they play Redskins in a couple of weeks. That
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: could be this first start for has Skins. Giants snicked
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: off the Redskins three. Speaking of the Redskins, the Seahawks
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: over the Cardinals twenty seven to ten. Seahawks. I've seen
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: bits and pieces of I'm not buying into what they're doing, Pete. No,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of a predictability with
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: that offense. You know, it's not it's not like college jump.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: You gotta do a lot of different things. I think
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: it's pretty predictable. And he takes a snaff. He runs
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: about twenty yards behind a lot of scrimmage darts running around.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: It's unbelieving. He looks so does he look like really
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: small out there? Is it just me? Yeah? He's tiny?
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: Three more games here, Bucks, over the Rams fifty never
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: picked that one trouble in Paradise in l A. The
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Bears over the Vikings sixteen to six, and then a
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: real barn burner in the Dome last night in New
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: Orleans twelve to ten. Saints over the Cowbirn. Get stop
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys greatest show on turf. Put Dak Prescott game
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: at five million dollar contract off right and make quick
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: and make Kellen Moore the head coach. By the way.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: One quick thing Januards related Byron left, which is called
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: the hell of a game yesterday. Good for hid Byron's
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: a good dude. I saw him on Thursday night route
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: for guys like that head coach coming head coach and
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: waiting time from Monday Night football. It's a horrible matchup
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: of crappy teams in the a f C North. The
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals are the Cincinnati Bengals. They had to Pittsburgh
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: to face a Steelers team trying to figure it out
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: without Big Ben. It's a battle of oh and three
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: teams and somebody's oh has got to go? Who you
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: got tonight? That was very negative? Um it's in uh
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: Hinesfield in Pittsburgh. I don't know neither teams in prime time.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. He's terrible in prime time.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: You gotta take the Steelers all. I'll take the Steelers
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: because Mason Rudolph is so good in primetime. Well, we
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: don't know that. We don't know what you can do
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: in prime time. We know what Andie Doal could do
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: in prime time, and it's nothing if Pete. If the
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: Bengals win, does tom and go on the hot seat
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: four not without his quarterback? Do you think he's safe
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: no matter what? Huh? So they end up four and twelve.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: They fired Toma just because the quarterbacks hurt. Now if
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: he goes four and twelve next year with the quarterback
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: coming back, then I think he's gone. Okay. They don't
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  Speaker 1: ever make changes in Pittsburgh ever, Alight. I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should. I'm just wondering what the
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  Speaker 1: state of the franchise, what's the state of the fan
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  Speaker 1: base and the Rooneys in Pittsburgh. It sounds like they're
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: gonna keep him around for a while. I thought your
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: intro is negative. I didn't know. Yeah, because it's a
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  Speaker 1: terrible game. The intro is honest, you don't know. If
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  Speaker 1: it's a bad game where they come out and play
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  Speaker 1: the game might be nice, doesn't mean the teams aren't
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: crappy teams. Okay, was the Denver Jack game a good game? Yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Pete watching entertaining but one of those teams that it
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  Speaker 1: was decent game and it was a good football game.
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  Speaker 1: Though I don't buy this stuff what you guys are selling.
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  Speaker 1: How many wins it between these teams tonight? Zero? They're
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: gonna have one after tonight. Pete will talk to you alright, guys,
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  Speaker 1: CBS Sports Tony was Selly of Jaguar's Fame, our entire crew.
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  Speaker 1: I'm JP Shadrick. Thank you for watching and listening today
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  Speaker 1: Jack's win over the Broncos. The Jacks two and two
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  Speaker 1: headed the Carolina next week. We'll talk to you next time.
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