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7-28-26 Hour 1 - What's Peyton Watson worth?/Storylines heading into Broncos camp/Ohio State jersey patch · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: You know, the longer this drags on, and I do
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  Speaker 2: think it's going to drag on a lot longer, the
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  Speaker 2: more that I can see this tide turning. In regards
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  Speaker 2: to Peyton Watson, of some of the texts I was
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  Speaker 2: getting during the appetizer were not very nice to him,
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  Speaker 2: and I think people are just you know, when something
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  Speaker 2: like this drags out long enough, you start to pick
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  Speaker 2: a side, or you get so tired of it you
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  Speaker 2: kind of hate everybody involved in it. But there's more
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  Speaker 2: and more info that continues to leak, you know, from yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Whether you believe the four years seventy million dollar extension offer,
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  Speaker 2: four years, eighty five years, seventy million, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it is. It's pretty clear to me though that
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  Speaker 2: I think this is Rich Paul in Clutchboorts leaking this stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and they're doing it in a way like.
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  Speaker 3: Look how they're low balling my guy. But I also
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  Speaker 3: wonder this.
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  Speaker 2: If that's the intent in doing it, and another team
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  Speaker 2: hasn't seized the opportunity to up the ante. That's weird
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  Speaker 2: Number one. Number two, is it the wisest thing for
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  Speaker 2: the team? Who knows Peyton Watson intimately seen him in
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  Speaker 2: practice every day, watched every game that he's played, and
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  Speaker 2: to say here's what they think of him. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's the greatest thing for him either.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm horribly confused by a lot of this stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: this is going to drag on forever. I don't see
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  Speaker 2: this ending like today, So I don't know, Vic, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think?
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to go to the deadline?
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  Speaker 5: October thirtieth has to get done on October thirtieth, which
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  Speaker 5: is the exact date that.
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  Speaker 4: Christian Brown got his extension October thirtieth of last year. Well,
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  Speaker 4: when does the freaking season start?
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  Speaker 5: Preseason starts training camp first week of October, so preseason
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  Speaker 5: games will already have been played.
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  Speaker 4: There'll be a couple of regular season games. If it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't for the leader of Clutch, the founder of Clutch,
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  Speaker 4: we would already probably have the damn schedule by now. True,
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  Speaker 4: you know I do have I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 5: I do have a bit of an issue with everybody
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  Speaker 5: making enemies out of people that are just doing their jobs.
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  Speaker 4: Clutch Sports is trying to get the most for their client.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, Hayton Watson is simply trying to make his bag,
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  Speaker 5: just like Christian Brown, absolute just like Nikola Jokic and
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  Speaker 5: Jamal Murray and Cam Johnson and Aaron Gordon all got
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  Speaker 5: their bags.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: So for people to cast Peyton as, oh my god,
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  Speaker 5: he's unsupportive, not he's not loyal, he's that's a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of bunk. And let me let me get one thing
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  Speaker 5: out of the way right now, because I've heard this
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  Speaker 5: from a lot of people. If he would have played,
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  Speaker 5: if he could have played in the playoffs, he would
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  Speaker 5: have played. Okay, So can we please stop with this.
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  Speaker 5: Oh he's just doing that to save himself for a
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  Speaker 5: free agency. He's a competitor. These guys are barbarians. These
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  Speaker 5: guys are this is what they do. You don't think
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  Speaker 5: he wanted to prove to the league, to himself, to
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  Speaker 5: his teammates that he could be of service in that
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  Speaker 5: time He just.
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  Speaker 3: Probably could probably could earn more money exactly right.
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  Speaker 5: I just I'm going to talk a lot about what
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  Speaker 5: is happening and what I think will happen. But there's
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  Speaker 5: no evildoers here. Everybody's just doing their jobs. The Nuggets
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  Speaker 5: are trying to do the right thing. The Nuggets are
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  Speaker 5: paying the penance right now. Let's be honest. The Nuggets
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  Speaker 5: are paying the penance for signing a couple of contracts
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  Speaker 5: that frankly are overpriced. Okay, sure, So now they painted
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  Speaker 5: themselves into a corner where they cannot afford.
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  Speaker 4: To do that anymore. They just can't.
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  Speaker 5: They've got the highest payroll in the league right now,
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  Speaker 5: they're the only team in the second apron. Right now,
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  Speaker 5: they have to cut corners. They have to if for
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  Speaker 5: those of you who say, well, I'll just pay them all,
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  Speaker 5: that's not how this works. There's a reason all thirty
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  Speaker 5: teams avoid the second Apron.
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  Speaker 4: It's not about just being a spend. They don't just
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  Speaker 4: avoid it.
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  Speaker 5: They avoid it like the plague, exactly right. So everybody's
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  Speaker 5: doing their jobs now. At the end of the day.
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  Speaker 5: Can they meet halfway? Can they meet at a point
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  Speaker 5: where everybody's happy. I don't know, because there are a
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  Speaker 5: lot of moving parts here. I do know this, if
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  Speaker 5: the Nuggets had their choice, truly their choice. Peyton Watson
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  Speaker 5: will be signed in a member of the starting five
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  Speaker 5: on this team.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't doubt that for a second. And you're right,
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  Speaker 4: they've they find themselves in a very so what's stopping that?
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  Speaker 4: So let let's let's just think about this for a second.
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  Speaker 4: If they value and I think most Nuggets fans would say,
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  Speaker 4: he is a fundamental piece that could be a starter.
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  Speaker 5: On this team. So who's not who's not a starter?
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  Speaker 5: Then if he becomes a starter, is it Cam Johnson?
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  Speaker 4: It's going to be Cam Johnson? Okay?
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  Speaker 5: So if Cam Johnson is by that definition expendable, why
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  Speaker 5: can't he be dealt and open it?
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  Speaker 4: My god? Are you okay? Not really? My allergies are
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  Speaker 4: killing me and it's going everywhere. I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 4: I invite you. This has been something this morning. I
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  Speaker 4: invite you during the break. This is a clear invitation.
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  Speaker 4: Dear Vick, please meet me in the hallway to look
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  Speaker 4: in all of my orifices for snot all right, So
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  Speaker 4: love moch here's the invitation.
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  Speaker 5: If it seems clear to everybody that Peyton Watson is
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  Speaker 5: the guy they want and they would prefer to trade
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  Speaker 5: somebody else, ask yourself this question.
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  Speaker 4: Why haven't they traded somebody else? I think that Cam
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  Speaker 4: Johnson is insurance in case they can't come to an agreement.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think it is I completely agree with what
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  Speaker 4: Brets just said.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's more to it than that. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's hard to trade contracts in the NBA when the
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  Speaker 5: rest of the league knows that you have to trade consure.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's true if the rest of the.
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  Speaker 4: League is under the.
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  Speaker 5: They know that they've got the Nuggets in a place
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  Speaker 5: that hey, you're in the second apron, you're in cap hell,
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  Speaker 5: why would we give you this or that to help
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  Speaker 5: you out?
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  Speaker 4: We're going to take advantage of you right now. But
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  Speaker 4: at the same time, he's still a value this I
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  Speaker 4: understand what you're saying, But can Cam Johnson help another
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  Speaker 4: team at that price? At what price? Twenty two million dollars? Sure,
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  Speaker 4: that's not the point though.
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  Speaker 5: The point is why would another team just willingly take
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  Speaker 5: on twenty two million dollars without getting something because you
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  Speaker 5: want the player who can help you win or really?
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  Speaker 5: But then why haven't they done it? I don't know, Vic, Well,
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  Speaker 5: I just answered the question for you. Because they know
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  Speaker 5: that the Nuggets have to unload it and unless ones
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  Speaker 5: you add.
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  Speaker 4: This is the big ass set in today's NBA. Every
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  Speaker 4: trade that's made. Take a look at every trade that's made.
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  Speaker 5: What goes along with every trade picks picks. Very rarely
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  Speaker 5: do trades happen anymore where it's just player for player,
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  Speaker 5: there are picks involved.
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  Speaker 4: What are the nuggets lower? They don't have picks. They're
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  Speaker 4: lacking picks.
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  Speaker 5: Dude, They're stuck and right now it's going to be
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  Speaker 5: hard to get out of this. You got to make
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  Speaker 5: some very difficult decisions here on how to get out
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  Speaker 5: of this.
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  Speaker 4: You may lose one of these deals just for the
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  Speaker 4: sake of getting some picks. This is where you go
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  Speaker 4: back to what you said, let's basically call it two
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  Speaker 4: months ago. You said there's a couple of ways that
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  Speaker 4: this offseason can go, and I was in complete agreement
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  Speaker 4: with you. You may have to take a step back
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  Speaker 4: to take a step forward. The further along we get
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  Speaker 4: with this, and you're talking about potentially to October thirtieth,
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  Speaker 4: which drives me insane. The further along we get, the
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  Speaker 4: more I'm thinking it's time to step back, clean some
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  Speaker 4: stuff up, get some wiggle rooms, some elbow room and
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  Speaker 4: then go forward.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the problem though, if you were to trade, like
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  Speaker 5: everybody says, what about AG's contract? Do you think there's
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  Speaker 5: a team hanging out there with thirty million extra dollars
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  Speaker 5: just saying, hey, we'll take.
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  Speaker 4: That on give us give us no, because they want
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  Speaker 4: to shed their own selves to take that one. And
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  Speaker 4: so what happens if that team sheds their own salary?
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  Speaker 4: It comes back to you and you're still spot still.
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  Speaker 4: They can't do it, that is correct. The only way they.
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  Speaker 5: Could do this with Peyton is to sign and trade
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  Speaker 5: and get picks in return.
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  Speaker 4: So why isn't that happening? Or it would take like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, one of those four team deals where it's.
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  Speaker 5: Like exactly you get traded for Gold State. So yesterday
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  Speaker 5: I raised the question on the show, and I did
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  Speaker 5: it all morning and I got some answer.
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  Speaker 4: That's why you all, that's why you also get three
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  Speaker 4: teams involved in some of these trades. I got some
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  Speaker 4: answers to this. Yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: I said, why is why is nobody offering a qualifying
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  Speaker 5: offer on a sign of trade? And I asked that
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  Speaker 5: question time and time again, and the answer is simple,
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  Speaker 5: because teams don't have thirty million line around.
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  Speaker 4: Not many. There are few, not many. And if they do,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna want you to take some of their money too. Sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And those that don't and those that say we'll give
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  Speaker 5: you some picks, well they look at the Nugget situation
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  Speaker 5: and say, why would we do that.
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  Speaker 4: We're not here to help you, We're not a charity.
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  Speaker 5: We know that you're in cap hell, We'll just wait
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  Speaker 5: it out.
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  Speaker 4: That's what's happening here.
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  Speaker 2: This is another report and this is like, it's one
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  Speaker 2: thing just talking about the negotiations and is somebody else
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  Speaker 2: going to make an offer for Peyton Watson. The other
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  Speaker 2: thing that I've heard growing louder and louder is this
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  Speaker 2: is from Jake Fishery works for mark Stein's company, and
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  Speaker 2: mark Stein's company has been like all over this story.
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  Speaker 2: One source brief do on Watson's situation said Monday that
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  Speaker 2: they see the Bucks as the most likely external suitor
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  Speaker 2: to swipe Watson away from Denver. The nuggets overall financial
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  Speaker 2: outlook certainly became a bit more complicated after Okay sees
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  Speaker 2: two year, twelve million dollar offer sheet for Spencer Jones,
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  Speaker 2: which hauled Denver into the second Apron sources say Denver
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  Speaker 2: is still holding out for the equivalent of at least
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  Speaker 2: two first round picks in any sign and trade in
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  Speaker 2: which it loses Watson.
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  Speaker 4: The other issue that Denver's dealing with right now, Can.
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  Speaker 2: I see one thing about that. That's the one thing
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  Speaker 2: that I think would be I think the biggest letdown
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  Speaker 2: is even if you netted two first round picks in
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  Speaker 2: a sign and trade for Watson, you are willingly admitting
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  Speaker 2: we are not going to be good this year or
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  Speaker 2: not as good this year as we were last year.
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  Speaker 4: And what's what's the alternative? What's the alternative? The thing
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  Speaker 4: for me.
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  Speaker 2: Has always been Peyton Watson is one of the best
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  Speaker 2: assets that you've had, really in the jokaj era since
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  Speaker 2: Jamal and Joker with little puppies growing up. He's the
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  Speaker 2: closest thing you had to it. He is somebody that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't just help you now, he can help you five
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  Speaker 2: years from now.
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  Speaker 4: Who's easier to trade cam Johnson or Peyton Watson?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's easier, so trade Payton.
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  Speaker 4: So what choice do you have? What choice do you have?
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  Speaker 2: I'm asking here, here's the thing, though, zero there can't
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  Speaker 2: be zero market Here's what I'm telling you. I am
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  Speaker 2: much more willing to take a gigantic loss on a
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  Speaker 2: Cam Johnson trade than I am a Peyton Watson trade.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Like, if it means that you trade Cam Johnson for
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  Speaker 2: cash considerations or something like.
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  Speaker 5: That or whatever, can't you're in the second apron. But
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  Speaker 5: you don't, hang on, hang on.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody knows there are ways you can get around this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: You can.
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  Speaker 3: It's difficult, but you have to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the option that you have here is
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  Speaker 2: let me just like go of this gigantic asset that
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  Speaker 2: we have for now.
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  Speaker 4: I know what you're saying. If you're gonna cut ties,
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  Speaker 4: simply cut.
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  Speaker 5: Ties with Cam over Peyton, here's the or who or whoever,
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  Speaker 5: here's the problem. Let's say you replace Cam's contract with
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  Speaker 5: Peyton's contract, and Peyton's gonna get a little more than Cam.
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  Speaker 4: Guess where you guess where you still live.
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  Speaker 2: You still live in the second apron. So what does
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  Speaker 2: that accomplish cheaping Peyton Watson's at what price?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I would.
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  Speaker 2: Assume, considering the rumors are four years, let's just say
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  Speaker 2: the higher one four years, eighty million dollars somewhere in there.
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  Speaker 5: And that's assuming, and that's assuming that there are teams
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  Speaker 5: out there that willingly want to take Cam Johnson off
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  Speaker 5: your hands.
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  Speaker 2: Cam Johnson's can I can I raise emotions point? Cam
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  Speaker 2: Johnson isn't like this isn't trying to get rid of
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  Speaker 2: a Zeke contract in which you're basically begging, or what
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  Speaker 2: they did with a Dario Sarach last year, Like, please
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  Speaker 2: just take this guy.
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  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson still a dude who can play.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Jam Johnson, I would want back on this
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  Speaker 2: if not in the financial situation they're in right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So what Chris you around it for me? Good golly?
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  Speaker 4: He showed me a lot, especially in the postseason run,
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  Speaker 4: but really in the twenty four to twenty five season
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  Speaker 4: average over fifteen points a game. He's becoming a better
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  Speaker 4: player than we paid him. Boom fine, p Watt showed
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  Speaker 4: plenty this year in limited action. So when you talk about, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know so and so got his bag, so and
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  Speaker 4: so god is bad. My only question to you would be,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't blame him for wanting to get paid
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  Speaker 4: at all, but is it a little bit too quick
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  Speaker 4: to get a bag? Vic? Well? Is it a little
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  Speaker 4: bit too quick to get a bag. But this is
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  Speaker 4: the NBA. This is what it is.
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  Speaker 5: Now you're now you understood, you're casting his versions that.
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  Speaker 5: This is what the NBA does. It's pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: The way of life.
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  Speaker 5: You bet, you bet on the come exactly right, You bet,
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  Speaker 5: you bet on potential. Sometimes you win them, sometimes you
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  Speaker 5: lose them. And this is where you're at. If you
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  Speaker 5: don't pay him, somebody else.
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  Speaker 4: Will I guarantee there? Then why isn't somebody paying him?
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  Speaker 4: Right now? Where's the where's the where's the offer? Shoot?
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  Speaker 5: I think I just told you that because they know
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  Speaker 5: they don't have to pay him, and they're they're they're waiting.
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  Speaker 5: They're basically saying, we can pay we can pay Payne Watson.
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  Speaker 4: But your little deal that you want to make with
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  Speaker 4: us ain't gonna work. You want a six pack of
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  Speaker 4: I P a stupid IPA bitter tasting crep that you
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  Speaker 4: drink here the grocery store. Let's say it's going for
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  Speaker 4: eight ninety nine a six pack. That's the cheapest I
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  Speaker 4: PA ten ninety nine to six packs still cheap. But okay,
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  Speaker 4: I don't drink that craps, so I don't expensive keep
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  Speaker 4: beer you're like, oh, you're a safe way. Eh, you
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  Speaker 4: know what, you know what, I'm not bet nobody's gonna
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  Speaker 4: buy that beer. I'm gonna wait till next week when
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  Speaker 4: it goes down to nine ninety nine. Well, do you
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  Speaker 4: want the beer or do you not want the beer?
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  Speaker 4: Do you want the player of Milwaukee Buckster? Do you
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  Speaker 4: not want the player? Brooklyn Nets? Do you want the
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  Speaker 4: player or do you not want to play? Maybe because
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  Speaker 4: this guy has the potential to come in and if
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  Speaker 4: you're paying him twenty five per or whatever he wants
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  Speaker 4: somewhere around there, this guy may play to a forty
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  Speaker 4: million dollars remain.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they do want the player, but they don't want
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  Speaker 5: to give up to first and they figured, we'll just
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  Speaker 5: wait till the offseason. We're gonna suck this way this
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  Speaker 5: year anyway. So if you're Milwaukee, who cares, We'll wait
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  Speaker 5: nine months? Then you know what, And here's the bottom line.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want another team to build the Nuggets out.
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  Speaker 5: I want them to figure this out themselves.
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  Speaker 4: But you see where I see where you're coming from.
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  Speaker 4: So why would Milwaukee go out of their way? See
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  Speaker 4: this on the stall, sniffing around the fence, stuff either
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  Speaker 4: either jump defence or don't jump defence.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Walker Kessler's deal actually is bad news for the
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  Speaker 5: Nuggets because now the expectations are that you can do
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  Speaker 5: this for any restricted free agent.
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  Speaker 4: That was a special, unique deal.
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  Speaker 5: You know that Walker Kessler was offered that same money
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  Speaker 5: the Lakers gave him by Utah.
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  Speaker 4: You realize that. Yeah, and he turned it down. And
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  Speaker 4: he turned it down. Why is it want to get
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  Speaker 4: out of you? I want to get the hell out
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  Speaker 4: of you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And Luca wanted him in LA and the star
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  Speaker 5: player pushed for that deal, and guess LA got it done.
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  Speaker 4: La got that deal. They also had first round picks
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  Speaker 4: to send the other way, and they had assets exactly.
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  Speaker 4: The Nuggets don't have assets. They need to build.
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  Speaker 5: Assets somehow, someway and still remain in this prime era
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  Speaker 5: of Jokicic.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's a balancing act that is straight incredibly difficult.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Let me get this straight. It's seven to sixteen in
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: the morning on July twenty eighth. Let me get this straight.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Vis just spent the first sixteen minutes of this program
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: saying this We're fed.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: No, I didn't say that, I said I'm wondering what
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: shoe drops, and the shoe that I see that drops.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: I think what's going to happen is we're going to
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: have the same conversation until October.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Thirtye Peyton Watson signed in trade October thirtieth.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Either that happens or someone else's dealt, I think October.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: I think we're gonna be singing this song for a
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: long time. Quite frankly, I'm getting sick of this already.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know about you, Brett, but I'm this
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: even talking about this kids, my blood pressure up, and
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: I get pissed.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I told you I'm getting pissed.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I got I'm already feeling some fatigue with it, and
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going anywhere. I think it's gonna
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: be like this for a while, So a lot more
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: to get to with this. Three oh three five four
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: nine two five.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: That being said, I will say this. I heard on
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: NHL Network Radio my good friends Jay con of Victoria
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: matdi Ash. They were going over the Avalanche report card,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: the GM report card, and it got me to thinking
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: about the Nugget situation and compared to the ABS situation.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: And I'll give you some insight on that sometime if
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: you request it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: We'll do that a little bit later.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Along with Vic mentioned something yesterday regarding Broncos camp, which
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be there on Friday, but you brought up
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: a potential camp battle, Vic, that could be happening, and
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I think somebody recognized the same thing you did.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: We'll get to it next.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Brett. Remind me why I don't come into the studio.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Moster's volume during breaks.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Is it's just all the significant that time. It's untenable
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: because you're walking in here to the level of spaz.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: You know the definition of spaz. You are that. I
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: appreciate that you walked in here today dictating what do
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: you mean dictating? But what did I dictate? You banged
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: open the door like Kramer on Seinfeld, that's true, and said,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I ain't doing no golf at altitude today. I'm going
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: to the Broncost period. Yeah, I ain't doing that. You guys,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: your silly little show mos. You guys both do that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: It's one of the weirdest things they could they do.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Come in.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: It's exactly right.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Most like Kramer from Seinfeld, No, hello, no nothing, it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: just whatever the grievance is of the moment.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Boom, I'm not doing golf today. I'm not doing it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Say okay, uh boom?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: You know why hate?
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I guess that's something that
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: should bother you.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: At six fifty today at eleven thirty am, what's happened?
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Broncos kickoff?
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: And I got a grievance with the Broncos by the way,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: about how about this?
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: How about you.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Give us a little more than maybe eight hours notice
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: when you're gonna hold freaking press conference.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: No, I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious about this is
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I'm not laughing. No, it's true. That's ridiculous.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Maybe they should get that's I mean, no, no, hold
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: on a second, hold on a sead, I cut the music.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Now he's mad.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not joking.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Every year this happens, they have this press conference on Tuesday,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: which they're gonna have today their first of the How
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: about letting people know a couple of days in advance
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: instead of the night before.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: I would I would say it's better practice.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, am I off my rocker for that? Well, typically, Vick,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: you have the announcement of the night before. If you're
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: gonna make like a big announcement like so and so,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: is getting fired, or we signed so and so and
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: he'll be available tomorrow. That kind of thing. It's a
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: it's a you know, a spur of the moment type
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: of situation. If you have you've had months to plan
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: out training camp. He said, oh yeah, by the way,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: show up tomorrow morning. Will you know. That's a little different.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe they should use the Miami Heat YouTube guy to
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: schedule these things days in advance.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I have more on that story that we'll get to later.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: By the way, let me let me lay it out
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: though for the people. So during the commercial break, while
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I'm spazing, I got a phone call from Kyle Keef
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: and Mark Ryecroft. So, golf at altitude, I guess now
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: requires a three person show, because that's the other thing.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: We used to do golf at altitude with one person.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Now it's like the entire ensemble.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, turn yeah, so Vic because the last minute he said,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: screw it, I'm out of here. They had to pull
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Riker out of bed. And Riker's not a super good
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: morning person. Sometimes nighttime he could be a good night
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: time person, but sometimes early morning, rich dog, that's a
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: little tough. So he was a little perturbed. Old Vixtre
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: here because he's being drugged by Keifer down to plumb Creek.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I'm very sorry, yes, today I was very sorry. You
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: had to work one day this summer, Riker.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: That is our fault. And you gotta go to your
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: bedroom two minutes for being back.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: A single day of work that you've had since u
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: June or May whatever may. Vick.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: You mentioned something though, speaking of Broncos camp yesterday, that
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: is interesting. We're talking maybe some underrated storylines heading into camp,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and you said one is the Broncos have a good
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: offensive line with veterans on there. Many of those veterans
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: highly paid. One of those guys is Ben Powers. Ben
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Powers will enter this training camp in a battle with
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Alex Palchwski played really well from last year after he
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: left with the torn biceps. Let me give you a
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: little backstory though.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Ben Power. I do think Pelchowski came
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: in and played. He played above expected in my eyes.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: So you mentioned this yesterday, Vic, and then late last
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: night Mike Cliss has the news of Ben Powers is
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: going to return on a restructured contract. He took a
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: pay cut going into this year. But you know what,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Ben Powers did last year. So he played in the
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Week five game against Philly and in the middle of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the game he tore his biceps. Finished the game, finished
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the comeback, then everybody went to London. He stayed in
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: town to get his biceps fixed. It's usually a season
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: ending injury. But his doc said, hey, we can figure
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: this out. We can get you back before the end
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of the year. So he returns for I believe was
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: the final five games, including the playoffs. But do you
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: know what he did in the first game back after
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: tearing his biceps, suffered to Liz Frank and played the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: rest of the year on it. So this dude's a warrior,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: like he's He's willing to lay his body on the
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: line to go out and play. But I do think
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the battle between him and Palachwski's an interesting one because
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: he makes thirteen million dollars where he did before this restructure.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the price is now. Thirteen million
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: isn't crazy, but it's just nothing.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: His cap hit was going to be eighteen.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: So he took a cheaper deal to try and stay
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: in the starting lineup. I think this year, which is
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: smart on his part, but that's just one of these
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: things that you're gonna see once camp starts up and
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: you get some of these battles in camp that again,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: most of the Broncos spots are pretty solid. We are
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: going in being like, Wow, there's eight jobs up for grabs,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and really.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: They're really that's and that's that's a rarity anymore. Anyway,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: in any NFL camp, even the bottom wrong teams, they
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: have things pretty much ironed out couple, but there's not like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: oh God, we got five starting jobs open. That just
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: doesn't happen, you know.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: The the whole thing with Ben Powers that always alarms
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: me and it stuns me, to be honest with you,
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: because not only did he have the biceps issue, but
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: apparently had a Liz Frank injury. Right, we just said that,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: and then everybody wondered why he wasn't performing up the standard.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Well, he had a broken foot. Yeah, why isn't this made?
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: Why doesn't he let people know that he's playing on
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: a broken foot, because.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: All this does is ruin his rep. I mean, you
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: could get d Lineman stepping on your foot and stuff
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: like that intentionally.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I mean that's something that.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I think I like the way that hockey typically does this.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: The Avs didn't do it, but I like how hockey
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: when the year ends, they're like, these are the injuries
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: these guys were suffering when they were playing in the postseason,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and it like it does give you better context to it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I think it's probably smart to not say it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: In the moment, but I mean, they have injury reports
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: where they have to have these guys listed with something,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and they don't. They don't get so specific like Liz Frank,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: but they'll say foot or ankle.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: That wasn't that wasn't listed. Was it not at all?
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I think you have to.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's illegal for teams not to list injuries.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: If guys are heard, these players they play with these
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: massive injuries and we kill him, Oh he didn't perform,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Oh he did this, We kill him, And the perception
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: of the player goes in the toilet. And I've always said,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: why just tell people what's going on and there's more
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: room for at least empathy.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think people go by the judgment of
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I can only judge you by how you're playing, though,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm sure, you know what about the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: guys who are really hurt Wilson still perform. Well, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: don't know which is Christian Brown one hundred percent unless
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: he's I mean, where was he?
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Do you think?
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I think he was so hurt that he was unplayable.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: He couldn't, he couldn't, he couldn't elevate at all, like
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: one leg was dead.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: From what I watched in the playoffs from Christian Brown,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I would not even have him in uniform, I don't think.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And that's no disrespect to Christian Brown. I think he
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: was that hurt and I'd be like, this isn't helping.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I can honestly tell you there were several Avalanche players
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: dealing with some thing pretty decent or really tough. But
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: if you're on the ice, if you're on the court,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: if you're on the field and you're available to play,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: then nobody's gonna be talking about, well he's playing with
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: a with a whatever. It's either you can play or
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: you can't play. And so I for these guys that
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: are dealing with something major, I don't know what it
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: took for Ben Powers to actually put his cleat on
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: and get taped, you know, get taped up and put
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: his cleat on and then get taped up again, and
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: then get his butt on the field. But I'm sure
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: it hurt like hell, but he still did it. Like
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Lance Lamp playing hurt today, you can't speak with at
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: your throat, so you let people know what's wrong, right,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I told you guys knows is full of snot.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Look, I don't.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do you want to look, Brett?
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: You want to see it?
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: No?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second, Lance, who is a writer for
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the bron because he listens to the show every day,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: appreciate your lance. He said he just looked it up
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the week seventeen injury report that he was not listed
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: on an injury report. And I am almost certain that
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: if a guy is injured on your team, he must
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: be listed with some sort of injury designation or you
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: will face a fine or potential loss of draft.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: He was listed with a biceps injury, not a foot injury.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: That's the difference.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: He broke his foot. He's playing with a broken foot,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: but he's listed with the biceps.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I think you have to list this stuff though.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Hey, right, stop it? What stop it? Seriously, you're being
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: very You're being.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: Very Do you think Josh Allen was hurt in that
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: game against the Broncos.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, problem. Do you think Drake May? Do you think
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Drake May was hurting me? He think definitely was. Were
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: those injuries listed?
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I think Drake's was. Here's the difference, though. The difference
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: is Look, I'm we don't need to harp on this.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is when the guy admits out loud
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: and says I had this at this time, and then
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you can go back in shock and be like that
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: wasn't listed. I'm just saying, potentially, you're putting yourself out
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: there for stuff, that's all.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: It's probably not Hey, it's probably.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Why Sean Payton whenever somebody asked about an injury, he's like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: stop asking me, Like, that's probably a reason for it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I just think, man, they don't.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I understand what the rules are, and I get but
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: if you think they don't play fast and loose with
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: those rules, then you're kidding yourself.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain that Tom Brady was listed as questionable
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: every week of his career, despite the fact that everybody
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: knew he was playing. But he's always questionable with something
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: speaking of with camp coming up, Oh, this.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Makes sense though, Hang on real quick. So the one five, five,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: four Powers wouldn't let them take an MRI I, so
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: they didn't know about the Liz Frank until the end
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: of the season. So maybe that's if a player himself
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: is hiding it and you're not doing an MRI. Then
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: he comes out after the yar and says, yeah, by
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: the way, I've been playing with a Liz Frank. There's
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: your answer.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: He takes his sh shoe off in the in his
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: foot stays in the ship.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: It is like, I've been playing with this. Somebody get
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: my get my foot out of the shoe. Please, thank you.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: But see now you know why those injuries and how
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: you how you announce your injuries is so sensitive. We've
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: seen this before with Avalanche players, with Nuggets players. How
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: hurt is he is? He really hurt? Is he hurt beyond?
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Can he play? Can he give it a go? This
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: happens in every sport, right, yes, this is why in baseball.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: That was Valve's injury when they won the Cup, Right
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: he has Liz Frank.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Was no the inside bone, the very inside bone of
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: his foot, the long bone was in half, literally in half.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: That's what Liz Frank was.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: No. List Frank is just I thought it was the No,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: that's not Where did Liz come up with this? Anyway?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Damage to the bones or ligaments in the mid foot arch?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Right the arch? I don't have an arch near flat footed. Yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: that's too bad, flippers, I have one single arch in there.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Somebody says, oh, by the way, Vick, you're right, I don't.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: In baseball, if a guy's got an injury, you can't
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: go for it. Like if a center fielder is dealing
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: with a shoulder, you're not running out to center field
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: and bagging him in the shoulder and saying, hey, how's
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: that feel. I guarantee you the way that because hockey
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: is the way it is. If somebody knows you have
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: something in hockey, they are absolutely going to target that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: That's not nice. And I thought that I'd be like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: that's mean. Ow, you know my hand hurts. Why did
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: you hit it with your stick? Is that why? I mean,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: what's wrong with you? Is that why? Kadrick then the
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: cup run had nails sticking out of his skin? Right?
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Cogliolos playing with a broken neck.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: You don't think they're trying to rough him up. I'm
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: telling you that's the way it is. Trying to put
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: him in a headlocked right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: By the way with oh you like that hunt?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: With all this news coming in, I just got confirmation
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Brian Winhorse is going to join us at nine thirty
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Nuggets off season in Lebron.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: So for Brian win Horse right winded a nine to
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: thirty copy and less think so it just yeah. I
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: mean in the NFL, if Ben Powers is dealing with
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: the Liz Frank is it defensive line. I don't know
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: that the defensive lineman's gonna try to step on him
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: any more than he normally would. Probably yeah, but maybe
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I do know. In hockey, if you've got a rist,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I guarantee you you're gonna get slashed several times.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Training camp kicks off this Friday, and Altitude Sports Radio
• 31:29
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• 31:38
  Speaker 2: live from training camp on Fridays starting at six am
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: when we're doing the thing where we see leaf blowers,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: maybe Brandon Jones walking barefoot out there for a little bit,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: and then at nine forty five 'll see guys stretching
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: and then our show end.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, Vick, You know what we used
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: to see out there that we do not see anymore
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: at Broncos camp. We do see Leaf or blower guyer guy,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: he's a listener to the show, or at least that
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: guy was back in the day. Broncos camp. And yeah,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: when we came from Greeley down to Dove Valley for
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: camp and whatnot, there were a lot of rabbits. Oh bro,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: you know Roxy a little dog rock she nailed one,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: she mangled one. Good girl, dude. It was savage. This
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: is a cute little puppy. It's like it's just like
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: huh yeah. And then all of a sudden, yeah, it
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: went it went down. Darwin. Yeah, let me tell you something.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I have a sixty pound German Shepherd mix and I
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: have a fourteen pounds.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Wait wait Mitsubishi. Yeah, a little Mitsubishi. What did you say?
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: I got a fourth I got a fourteen horse power Mitsubishi.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Shits a Behan What the hell is that?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: It's a shiitsu and a beha for say, it's put together.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: It's two little white dogs that got it on. Just
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a calm down though your name, imagine everything you would think.
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  Speaker 5: It looks like a little white fo I don't even
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: know what the hell they are.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I have a German shepherd and I have a Mitsubishie,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the fourteen pound Mitsubishie. That's the murder. That's the one.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: If there's an animal in the backyard, that one gets them.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: My German shepherd couldn't care less.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Just it's always a small ones, except for squirrels.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Squirrels are different.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: But if it sees a rabbit, it's like, yeah, whatever,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: the tiny one is out for blood.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Bro This thing the rabbit was bigger than the dog
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: and he's mangling. Wait is roxy as sheet? Both your
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: dogs are shees. It just hit me, she's going to town.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I don't want to even get into.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: It a thirty second story. I'll give you a prime example.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: These birds my exhaust fan from my kitchen. They like
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: to build nests in there, right, and I can never
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: close it up before baby birds are in and I
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: don't want to trap them in there.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: So then it's too like every once in a.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: While, well in the middle of the winter, you can go,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: you go.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, no, I just need to remember to do it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: But every once in a while one of those baby
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: birds thinks it's time to fly, not time to fly.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Splat.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I go outside one day, look at my mits a beshi.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: It's all white mos red all over, the white fur
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: on the face and front paws. And I went, she's
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a killer. She sees an absolute I couldn't do it.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I had to call in my wife relief picture. I'm
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: like you, that's your dog, Rick, you deal with this.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Rick brought in a dead rabbit to the bedroom about
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: two months ago, dropped it on the carpet. Sweet, here's
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: your prize, Dad.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: And they do look at you like, aren't you proud of me?
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Ye? Look like rabbit in the house. Bro, get it
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: out so here here here, I am getting plastic plastic
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: bag and you see that.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, no.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: No, And it's got slober all over. We're too so
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: it's extra west. It's yeah, all right, good talk?
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Five four nine two five back after this.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Two three.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: This from Pete Sammil.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Hang on, there's a misspelling. I want to make sure
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I don't get got. This was sent by Nelly. By
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: the way, I see you. This is trusting your teammates.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm reassuring it's fine.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: JP Morgan Chase.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ohio State is entering a new corporate sponsorship or
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: partnership I should say, with JP Morgan Chase that includes
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: jersey patches for all thirty six Ohio State teams. This
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: is expected to yield Ohio State seventeen million dollars per year.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: All right, so about this for a second. Think about this.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Think about how underperforming the deal that the Big Twelve
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: made with Monster Energy Drink.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: That is, is it Monster Big twelve Conference or is
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: it Big Twelve Conference presented by Monster.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: You have to say that whatever it is, they got
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: twenty million dollars for that, which is going to be
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: shared for the entire conference. This team got fifteen plus
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: per year just for a team.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just for a team.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I think that can buy you a couple of players,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: you think?
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I think? So?
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: How soon before every Like I'm thinking about every team
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: in college football and where perhaps their corporate money would go,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Like who would who would sponsor Alabama? Who would sponsor
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Penn State? I'm thinking about Penn State as a steel
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: I know it's not steel Town, that's Pittsburgh, but close enough.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: No, it has to be this.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what like your values are as your community,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: it matters banks.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: It's am I on TV every weekend when BAM is playing,
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Are they seeing Steve's House of Crabs across the top
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: of the jersey? Like?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: This is all it takes.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I want you guys to watch something you know what's
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: worth seventeen million dollars a year.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all you do. Just put something on your
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: shirt pretty much.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Seventeen million dollars a year, Thank you very much.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: The teams are on again. These teams are on every
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: single weekend on the big national netwe So what's that worth?
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: What's what's that? I call it free advertising because everybody's
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: going to see your company's logo on the front of
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: an Ohio state jersey or a Bama jersey.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Here's what I've always wondered this with marketing.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Does that do anything for JP Morgan Chase a patron
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: ohouse state uniformed?
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Does they think it does? Otherwise they wouldn't They wouldn't
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: pay too.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: But are like Buckeye fans who are I don't know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: they're using give me another bank, whoever, BMO or something
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: You're just now you're basically tearing apart the entire concept
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: of sponsorship.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I'd never do anything.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I've never understood.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Well, I think you're wearing a free hat from Chili
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Ones right now? Does that do anything that could?
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I think it works for businesses Like I don't know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: if people didn't know what Chili Ones was, maybe they'd
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: be like what is that? They go, oh, it's a
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: beer made by Tyson Barry, Like, I think that would work.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I've never seen JP Morgan Chase been like what's that?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I know who you are. You have plenty of money
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: your bank.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say. I was gonna say you got
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: my money. Yeah, I was gonna say, they already have
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of money.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I boughta right. Yes, I didn't know what Ibata was
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: before they were the jersey sponsor. That makes sense to me.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: So you say, because because JP Morgan Chase is already
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: an established bank and everybody knows what it is and
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: what they do, there's no need to throw a patch
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: on a jersey.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: It's over marketing.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I just think it's they're paying seventeen million a year
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: to be like, hey, that's cool, we're on Ohio State's jersey.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Like I think that's I won't dispute that. I mean,
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: it's like, what does that make sense? So what does
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: that accomplish? Yeah, where do they.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: See the money back for?
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: So that's gonna make Is that gonna make some Ohio
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: state fans want to walk into JP Morgan.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Chase and say, hey, we're all buck Eyes Now I'm
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: shopping here, like I love I love the Nuggets.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: If the Nuggets were sponsored by a JP Morgan Chase,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: if that was their thing, I don't think I'd switch banks.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Like this, I like this from a coolie. Tide should
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: sponsor Alabama. Oh that would be good.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: See, those are the ones you gotta do if if
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you get these ones when it's like you can tie
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: it in so good?
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: You know, now that makes sense?
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: That does make sense.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: We only wash our uniforms with Tide. Yeah, because we're
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: the Crimson tie Road Tide Road Tide.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I like that one. That one's cute.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Have you been in the Ted's Montana grow lately? I've
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: been there, but not lately. I went a couple of
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: months ago. It was pretty good, But I'm saying, what
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: the hell does it have to do with anything? Well,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: what's on the menu there? Yes, a Buffalo, So put
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: a little Ted's on the colorad of Buffalo's jersey right there.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Huh like when Ralph if Ralfi don't kick it into gear.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: She's heading up at Ted's seems like a big stretch.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: That's a big stretch.
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: You're promoting cannibalism, man, I can't go eat a buffalo
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: burger before a Buff's game.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: No, that the buff would be Buffalo wild wings or something.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's an easy way better, yeah, way better.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Come on. Well, watch people on the radio and TV
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: instead of freaking marketing.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: Lord Deon Sanders already has a deal with Depends because
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: see you get Depends patches and say something like providing
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: coverage on and off the field.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Mosher needed six sentences to describe his marketing scheme. You
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: just said Buffalo wild Wings.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that works way easier, and tried to.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Reverse engineer it. Their motion didn't work. I know. Ted
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: Turner also died, so it's not going to really work.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what what.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Is wrong with your brains? Ted Turner is the one
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: that started Ted's Montana grill. You idiots, I know that,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: But what does that have to do with anything? Well,
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: he's dead, and so going away what okay, never mind,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: never mind, get any of that happened. Wipe it all
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: out of your brains. None of that happened. I suret
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: of got sometimes I none have happened. It was a
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: good idea at the beginning, and it all want to crap.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: And now I'm getting crap. So no, no, no, no no,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: you don't even get to take no no, no no
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: no no no. Hold on, we're not talking about that
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: anymore about now.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Mosure is absolutely right. When Henry Ford died just thinking about.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: This, we were talking about Ohio State Jersey patches. This
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: guy chimes in and goes o. Ted Turner died. It
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: was it was Jersey patches, and Mosure goes Ted's Montana
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: girl was pretty good and Ted Turner, what the wonder?
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: A lot of people in there, though, I think. I
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: think my point is that it's kind of I don't
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: think it's a thing anymore. That's what I'm getting at.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: I hadn't what does that have to do with this?
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Put the freakin buffalo on the buffalo's jersey.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I just loved the idea of moge that you think
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: because the guy who founded a company died, the company
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: also dies.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Well that's what happened. McDonald's, Ray croc. Oh, Yeah, you're right.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: McDonald's is shutting down everywhere, everywhere, Yep, Montana.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Ever since Colonel Sanders fash Yeah, Jesus can't get no
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: chicken nomo?
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: What about Dave from Wendy's can't find a Wendy's anywhere
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: in this town. That's a different story. Why is that different?
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I never liked Dave. I guess he's a great guy, though, Why.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I just thought his commercials were kind of corny.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: He named a restaurant after his was it granddaughter?
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: That's his daughter or his daughter? It's very cute.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is so to bring this back around,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I was just wondering what JP Morgan Chase gets out
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: of this other than them saying it's cool that we're
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: associated with a.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just brand recognition.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Maybe somebody in the higher ups in Ohio state fan
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: and they decided we're gonna throw our money there.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Who knows?
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean usually it comes down to that, right,
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: get enough fan base there?
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: What are some other ones we can think of that
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: would be good? Jersey think you think about the.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Brand names, And I don't understand anything that you said.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Who are some of the brand names in college football?
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Like Miami? Yeah? What would Miami? Somebody? Somebody already texted
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: and said, raising canes, chicken, stretch can happen? Stretch? I
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: can't stop killing.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Somebody said Apple died, the Steve Jobs died.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Do you do you admit that your your brain is
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: sort of like you? Would you admit? Would you admit
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: your brain is different than most? I would absolutely, It's
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: like yes.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: It's like turn to its side sometimes, like VI VIC
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: for your school. Irish Spring easy, already buy it? I
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: have Irish Spring?
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Am I the only one who still uses irishprit?
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm a dove guy. I love Irish. I'm a
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: no tears dove. I love cutting it with a knife.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, like the TV commercial. Oh but I like
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: it too. You ever done that?
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I swear to God.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: The only bars of soap I think I've used in
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: my life are hotel bars of soap.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: You use the I do that. I like a good
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: bar soap.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Whatever, liquid, whatever you want to call it.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you wash your feet. Gotta be honest.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I've started doing it recently in life.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I kind of was of the thought, and this is
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: embarrassing to say, standing the shower with my feet, But
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: then a lot of my shoes started to smell, and
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I was like.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe I got a loof of my feet a little
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: bit to get some of.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: That bad ses. You guys know, in the summertime, I
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: wear flip flops every day. Oh we know. And so
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: you've got it, Bret. You got to keep up with
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: You got to keep those suckers on point. You can't
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: just be letting them go.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: It was just kind of hair pits, privates and then
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: everything else.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Is you going to hit that water? And so up
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: at some point the center of my back has not
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: been touched by a loofer in my life, not once.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Without that dude I know that lives in Boulder. Doesn't
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: wear shoes, no socks, no shoes.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: He's like, who's that Mac Collins in.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: The n exactly like Mac Collins doesn't wear shoes anywhere,
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: disgusting restaurants anywhere.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Like not you, that's it, that's illegal. You just said
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: you you don't wear shoes in the summer, no shirt?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Well no, but I know shoes. I don't walk around
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: shod I got, I mean, I got at least something
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: on the bottom.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Are you telling me this guy walks into a steakhouse.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he goes bare feet. I don't
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: know if he goes to steakhouses. But do you know
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: this guy is just a guy who's known by everybody
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: to walk round down I know him, but I know
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: you too, and I'm trying to discern that what's the
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: difference you You don't wear shoes. I have something under
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: my feet that protects me from the actual ground and
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: grime and crap, cigarette butts and all that kind.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Of that is true.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: But your shoes, your feet are still exposed to the world.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: It feels good my shoes. My feet's just flapping in
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: the wind.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Dude, I wear socks in my house. I'm almost never
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Barefoot'm barefoot when I sleep and when I shower.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I'm totally with you. Oh you wear you wear slides
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: all the time, though, with sock with socks. Iver, I
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: just think you call me boomer. It's comfortable. I just
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: don't want to see another guy's feet. It's just okay, Boomer,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: I still want to see them, she says.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Barefoot guy walks into Ted's Montana grill.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: Now Ted's dead
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: THREEAL three five oh F five oh four O nine
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: two five back after this