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One Piece LIVE ACTION S01E03- Tell No Tales · Spoil Me! One Piece

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This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me covering the live action
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One Piece series from Netflix Season one, episode three, Tell No Tales.
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In this episode, we are meeting oos up for the first time, and
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we're getting the kuro pirate that I was hoping to see but sort of wondering
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if maybe they would dance around. There is some dancing, but it's not
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the type that I enjoyed the most. Welcome to Unspoiled. Welcome to the
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show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much to Gabby for commissioning
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this episode. Yeah, you guys, this has been really fun because I've
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watched some of One Piece with Owen, but I've been watching this live action
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with him a lot more than I have watched the cartoon with him, and
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it's fun to see him being like, oh, oh, what kind of
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gum gum fruit did he get? Did he was it this one? Was
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it this one? And he just tries to like guess what's happening, and
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you know, there's a lot of guesses in there that I feel like,
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oh, that could have worked too, but he has a much better grasp
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of the spirit of what gumgum fruits are named than I did when I started
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this series, because every time I find out what certain fruits are called,
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I'm like, really, that's it, that's just okay, that's just what
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we're going with our right And I think that once this is because like,
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we don't get a reveal in this episode episode about what fruit he ate.
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It's just that we see a little bit of his powers, and that's kind
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of all we're getting in this one. It's just a little taste. So
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I'm really really excited because the atmosphere of this particular episode was so what's the
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word claustrophobic. I think I really found myself on edge, even though I
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know what's happening here, you know, I know all where we're heading,
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and I still found myself kind of going like, oh god, guys,
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yeah, I'll have to get out of here. This is no good,
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you know. So let's start at the beginning here, because as usual,
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I'm getting ahead of myself. But we begin things at Syrup Village, which
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I gotta tell you, guys, did not remember at all that that's the
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name of the village us Up comes from. I don't know if it was
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just not really put front and center in the animation the way it is in
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the live action, and you know, I have no doubt that it is
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mentioned, but it really didn't like hit for me at all, and I
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really kind of like that name, so I'm surprised that it didn't make more
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of an impression. But here we are, and we're getting to see how
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Usap, you know, has sort of lost everybody's goodwill by running through the
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entire village. We're seeing him as a little child here telling everyone that the
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pirates are coming, and he's ringing this alarm bell and getting everybody, like,
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you know, riled up. Folks are actually taking cover and going inside
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their homes and locking and shutting the doors and closing the shutters. Everybody is
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preparing for a fight. And then you have one person looking at him like
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a couple days later as he's running through and shaking their head, going mm
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nah, I don't think so. And the camera turns and we have got
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a grown oose up. I think he's meant to be probably like eighteen.
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I don't remember what age she's supposed to be in the show, but this
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guy to me looks like he's probably like twenty four, but I bet he's
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younger. Than that, and he is still playing the same game. And
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there's somebody who's like, you have got to get your life straightened out.
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There haven't been pirates in years, and the way you keep doing this shit
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is pathetic. And I really felt like the way he says pathetic, I
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was like, that was harsh, even though I have absolutely no doubt that
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were I to be someone living in this town, I would have just as
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little patience. We get the title card for this one, A lovely long
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nosed skull for the Jolly Roger. Delightful. I really enjoy this bit with
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a title card, just being a different like Jolly Roger every time. It
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makes me so happy. I'm excited to see what else we get coming up.
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Sara Francis Oosup is seventeen, same age as loofy Okay. For some
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reason, Usup feels like he should be older than Loufy, But uh,
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that's just sort of the vibe because Lufy always feels really young, Like he
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just feels younger than he's meant to be, you know, And that's not
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necessarily I'm not saying that as like a flaw in the show. It's just
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because of what his personality is like, so we go back then to our
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friends on the I don't know if this boat that Nami stole has a name
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actually now that I say that, but uh, you know, it's the
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little one that she took from the the I keep wanting to say, Red
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nose pirates. Is that what they're called? What is buggies? Are they
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called the buggy pirates? Are they called the clown pirates? What is the
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name of his like crew? But yeah, these guys, they're the ship
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that she stole from them has sprung a leak, and uh, the way
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that this is done is really funny because when a Zoro comes out, he
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says there's something wrong with a toilet, and she's like, there is no
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toilet on this ship, and there's a long pause before he just goes oh.
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And it really gave me the impression that he had taken a shit somewhere
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he shouldn't have. I don't think that's actually what's meant to have happened,
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but like, I'm just really curious, you guys, if I was the
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only one that sort of hurt it that way. They're called the buggy pirates.
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Oh, come on, Usually they're not named after the captain exactly are
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they They're usually sort of maybe I'm not remembering, And let's name the ship
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Nami's booty, says Sarah, and I absolutely will not. In the midst
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of all of this as well, is of course Lofy trying to draw the
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Jolly Roger, and I enjoy how completely exactly the same it is as the
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one in the animation. Florian says also thought Zoro took a dump there,
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right, thank you. Okay, I'm relieved it wasn't just me, But
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yeah, he draws this, and she's like, well, we're not a
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crew and this is my boat and you're not hanging that shit here. So
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when Zoro comes out, he sees it and just says, that's unique.
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And I really love the energy here. Do you know what Zoro is reminding
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me of when it comes to Loofy is any of you who have seen Ted
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Lasso. He's really giving The way that Roy is with his niece, Chloe,
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I think her name is just you know, as much as he is
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extremely gruff and cranky, there is a sweet tolerance to everything that he does
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that makes it feel like, I know he really loves her and cares about
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her, and it's just the you know, he has difficulty showing his emotions
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and being tolerant is probably as affectionate as he gets, which that's valid.
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You know, not everybody is made to be the super like, vocally supportive
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type. Let's see surf instance. Generally they're the ones with just captain's name.
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Pirates are the ones with the most egotistical captains. Okay, I like
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that. That makes sense. So now me, when she hears that there's
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like water being taken on, she runs in there. She finds the transponder
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that has been swamped with water, and it seemed to me like when she
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picks it up, it's still the snail in it is still moving, and
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it seemed okay. But she puts it up to her ear and evidently nothing
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happens. So she's really bummed about that, and obviously this is going to
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be an ongoing problem with her. I really felt for this little snail too.
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I know it's not even real, but you know how sensitive snails are
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to salt, and then I have to assume salt water is just gonna kill
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it. And also the fact that she has to put that thing in her
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ear really makes me deeply uncomfortable. I know that it's like you know,
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but no. So this is when Lufy starts talking about how we're gonna need
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a better ship to make it to the grand line, and he mentions the
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name straw Hat Crew, to which Zuro says, I don't get it.
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Demons are scary, but like a hat is not scary, And Lufy says,
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who says pirates have to be scary? And I love how not Me
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and Zorro don't make eye contact here. They look like toward one another,
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but they don't lock eyes. And there's something about that gesture that I love
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in that they're both clearly not really on the same page as Loofy. But
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they aren't on the same page as shit. They're either they're not a pair.
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It's not like us against Loofy. They feel they are very separate from
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both people they are sharing this boat with. And I love the question of
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like, who says pirates have to be scary? Well, that's a good
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fucking question. Who says Indeed, that's another element of him wanting to be
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a different kind of pirate. And I just really enjoy this ongoing I'm gonna
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prove you wrong on this kind of thing. That's going with him, and
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the way that, of course Zorro interprets things because Zorro is a pirate hunter,
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but also Nami because she has been victimized by pirates in a really specific
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way and clearly has her own thing going on there. But yeah, Lufy
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says, the point is, we need a new ship. Where do we
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get one? And she points out that the nearest ship, the nearest area
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is the Gecko Islands, and I think we can make it there before our
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ship sinks. And it's interesting because once they get there, it's made really
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clear that Nami had fully expected we were going to steal a new ship,
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and Lufy is aghast, like to him, I mean, what steal it?
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No, no, no, what why would we do that? Like
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that's extremely rude. We wouldn't do that. And I just really enjoy the
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the fact that each of them finds the other person's position on this like incomprehensible,
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you know. But for now, we are going to the Marines.
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Now, I'm going to kind of cover everything that's going on with Garp and
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Kobe in one shot, because it's honestly, it can be boiled down to
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like only a few sentences and that isn't. I don't mean that to sound
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like I'm saying this is way too drawn out. It didn't need to be
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this long. That's not what I'm saying at all. What I mean is
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that we get show, don't tell, which I like, and the show
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takes longer to do than the telling of which is how it should be.
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So the way that this unfolds is, first we have Helmepo, who has
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tied a not in the rigging that is not awesome, get it so funny.
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And Kobe, who has been at sea and knows what he's doing,
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spots that it is a weak point and he goes and fixes it because he's
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doing his goddamn job. And how Meppo spots him doing this and gets extremely
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offended. It's like a combination of simply, I can't believe that you're calling
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into doubt that I know how to do things, But mostly it's I am
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outraged that you, an inferior cadet, are questioning me considering my position on
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this ship, my position amongst everything because of who my daddy is. And
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uh as soon as he gets in Kobe's face on this, of course,
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then we have Garb who comes out and wants to know who tied that knot
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and how Meppo fully thinks Garb is about to yell at the person and who
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did it, so he throws Kobe under the bus, so he thinks and
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it's like, oh, yeah, he's the one who did it. And
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it turns out Kobe did a great job, and Garp can tell that he's
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like been on the sea before and knows what he's doing. And I don't
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know the way that Garp says the next line, it indicates to me that
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he saw the bad not that Helmepo tied, but he basically just says,
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to Hellmepo, I really expected better out of you, like your dad should
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have taught you more by now. It's kind of inexcusable that you don't know
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more. And this is one of those moments where I fully believe that this
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ship is like too small for Helmepo to get away with too much. But
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if we weren't on this ship, I would feel like maybe Garp was making
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things worse for Kobe in the long run, because somebody like Helmepo, if
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they are able to just like pinch and poke and bully person in private into
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giving them credit, helmepa would absolutely do that shit, like that's on his
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personality. So I for a minute I was sort of like, ah,
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man, dude, I know what you're trying to do. And I love
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this because I don't want him to keep like lording it over Kobe. But
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in a way, isn't this making things worse? And I stepped back and
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thought about it and decided I don't think it is making things worse. I
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think that Helmepo is too much of a coward to really do anything when everybody
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is in such close proximity. But could be wrong about that. We shall
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see. And overall, like the vibe that you get from garb Oh,
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I'm sorry, there's a bunch of people here in the chat, Serfem says,
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I love Lufy's main reason to be a guess at stealing the ship wasn't
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hating the idea of stealing in general, but that if the ship is going
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to be part of the crew, they shouldn't treat it. So yeah,
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it's very much like, oh my god, that is so ghast, Like
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this ship is supposed to be a member of the crew and we're just gonna,
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like what rip it off from somebody? Like no, and Saraphim says,
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between Garp and Bogart paying attention to the newbies, hum up oing getting
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away with anything. I keep forgetting about Bogart too. That's a good point
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because he really does have his finger on the pulse of everything. So yeah,
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this this like culminates in Garp. He wants to play a game against
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Kobe, and I can't remember the name of this game, but whatever it
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is. Kobe at first is losing, and Garp tells him, Bro,
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you are overthinking everything. You have got to just go for it and stop
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worrying so much, which I am so guilty of overthinking. I would absolutely
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be in Kobe's shoes here. And he tells Kobe, you've got to start
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acting decisively. And what he does is institute's a time limit on how long
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Kobe can take before he makes his next move, which I like. This
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is something that's kind of a great hack in general, if you are somebody
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who struggles with indecision, or if you are somebody who struggles with like procrastination
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as well, deciding to like put a timer on and just do as much
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as you can get done within that timer's limit, it's really really shocking you
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guys, how much you can get done in such a short time. Like
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I have found that a big part of my procrastination is due to and I
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anticipate things are going to take a lot longer than they actually end up taking.
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So I will put something off because I have this like, oh,
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it's going to be at least an hour to get it done, maybe longer.
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And then I put twenty minute timer on and I'm like, let me
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just do what I can for twenty minutes, and I finish. I finish
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it in twenty minutes, and then I have to step back and be like,
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oh my god, I've been putting this off for so long because I
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thought it was going to take ages, and it just was twenty minutes and
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I had been putting it off for so long. Like just a tip from
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me to you, but yeah, this kind of thing of being like you
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need a time on your turn. Anybody who has played a like board game
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with somebody who is really indecisive knows exactly this feel. This is the kind
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of thing that you have to do with certain players because otherwise the game goes
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on for fuckingever. And yeah, I just really appreciate the whole way that
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Garp is like taking Kobe under his wing, because like we know, and
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I'm really kind of relieved at the way this shook out. I am at
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a point in the animated series where this has been discovered, like I have
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gotten to the point where they reveal of Kobe and Helmepo being taken Undergarp's wing
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and taught I now know, but that takes so much longer in the animated
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show to get to. And if this live action had come out when I
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wasn't as far along in the anime, this would have spoiled me potentially,
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which I think would you guys are so conscious of that, I don't think
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you would have commissioned it. So I'm really relieved that I got to the
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point in the anime where this is revealed so that I was allowed to watch
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the live action because I could easily see it just being like, you know,
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a fifty episodes too early, and then I wind up having to miss
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out on the live for such a long time, which would have broken my
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heart. So anyway, this ends with how much Oh he comes in and
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I love. I don't know what he thought Garp was doing. I think
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that he was expecting to come in and find like Kobe being punished by Garp
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somehow, or Kobe doing like I don't know, swabbing the decks, like
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I genuinely don't know. But it's very clear that when he comes in and
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finds the two of them just playing a game, he doesn't know what to
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think of that. And it's like a very unwelcome revelation that the two of
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them are just fucking chilling like bros. And that's not a good sign.
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If you are trying to kiss somebody's ass and you come in and find out
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that they have been like hanging with a different person and having a good time,
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that spells disaster for your little plan. So anyway, in the end,
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Kobe gets promoted above Helmepo, and he's what Garb says is nepotism will
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only get you so far. And I just kind of enjoy that the nepotism
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is being straight up pointed out in you know, this is not subtext,
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this is the text. I'm here for it. I love this, and
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Helmepo, I'm really like, just rise to the challenge, bro. Like
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I he is such a goon, but I think he is potentially capable.
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You know, it's just the sort of thing where like, are you going
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to take him at his word or are you going to sulk and not do
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what you are capable of doing because you just feel away about it, which
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I will confess I have been guilty of in the past, Like I'm not
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too good to admit that. I have definitely had moments where somebody has called
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me out for sort of like taking it easy on myself, and I really
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didn't appreciate it. I didn't like being called out that way, and I
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sort of sulked. And you're only hurting yourself. They're pointing it out because
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they are aware you can do better than you're doing, which is a compliment
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really. Like so anyway, that's pretty much everything for Kobe and Helmepo.
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But so let's see, Oh, Cirfum says, to be fair, when
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it was commissioned, none of us knew the details and just assumed. But
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while it does make a few reveals earlier than in the anime, it's all
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things you are well passed, Okay, cool. Yeah, I didn't really
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think about that. I keep thinking that y'all had commissioned it like once it
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came out, but it was before it came out. But yeah. So
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anyway, let's get back into things with when is it Syrup Village? So
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actually I'm gonna bounce really quickly over to Buggy because we get a little thing
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with him. He is, uh, I love this so much getting his
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parts together out of the crates after finally having gotten back to his huge tent
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after being kicked through the wall of it while tiny, and this wild looking
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fucking guy with gills in his neck comes in and Buggy tells him we're closed,
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and this guy says, our along wants a word. And when he
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he says our Along wants a word, he's out of sight, and Buggy's
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back is to the guy and facing us, and you can see his whole
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posture change, like it's very clear to him. Arlong frightens him, like
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this is not somebody to play with, and he knows that. But I
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think he just interprets this guy as being a flaky a lackey. I was
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gonna say a flunky, and then I said a lackey, and then I
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made it a flacky. I don't know, maybe flaky is the new thing,
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guys. Maybe I could turn that into something. But he doesn't take
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this dude seriously and he tries to like fight back, and it just immediately
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he gets knocked out. It's like embarrassing. Frankly, I really kind of
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felt for him on this one. But we see later that our along is
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expecting tribute because he has been getting shitit in Arlong's territory and he has not
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paid the piper. So his solution is to suggest that maybe the people Arlong
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should really be concerned with are the straw Hat Pirates. I don't think he
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calls them the straw Hat Pirates yet. I'm not sure that name is anything,
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but uh yeah, he just basically sort of goes bull, what about
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them? And as much as like Arlong is no fool, he's not like
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letting Buggy off the hook here. He is interested in what it is that
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Buggy is saying. And let's take a step back here and talk about Arlong.
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You guys, is this dude scary or what? I am so excited?
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Like he looks scary in the previews for were but the previous you see
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him for only an instant. The main thing that you get in the preview
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is his voice, which is spectacular. His voice is it's so echoing and
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throaty. It sounds like he's talking into a coffee can, Like I don't
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know how he's doing this. I have to assume that this is some kind
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of post production that they do on his voice, but he sounds so rad
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But it's one thing to really sound intimidating, and it's another thing to watch
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the character and see how he carries himself. And I found him to be
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genuinely alarming. This is the guy that you feel very clearly he is a
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step or two steps up from Buggy in terms of like danger, And I
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just really am excited about how great this show has been with casting, with
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nailing the tone like this is not easy, you know. It's the sort
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of thing that it's real easy to sit back and complain about after the fact,
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and we can all say, like, well, here's where they clearly
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went wrong, and it's easy for us to tell, you know, in
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hindsight, but in terms of like how to do it well. While you're
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putting together everything from scratch, things can sort of get lost a little bit.
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And I get the sense that the people who worked on this really knew
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the show well and liked the show for what it was and wanted to honor
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that in a very specific way that I think comes across a lot here.
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I just there's there's a respect paid, you know, to the material.
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And I do think that what they are changing and what they're tightening up is
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so far across the board. I'm one hundred percent behind pretty much every choice
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they have made. But I think that the changes that they have made are
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also in respect, like they're going, well, these couple of plot points
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are really interesting, So what if we tighten things up so that we could
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get to those sooner, or so we could make the timing of this make
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more sense or whatever. So I'm not at all a person who has the
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attitude of like, if you like something, you can't change anything about it.
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I have never been that type. And in fact, I think if
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you are trying to change the way you're telling a story from a book to
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a movie, or a book to a TV show or anime to live action,
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there have to be changes otherwise what's the point. And I think all
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the changes that they have made are really really smart and feel like they are
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for the betterment of the like pacing and everything. So arlong, Yeah,
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I can't wait to see more of him. That's going to be delightful.
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Sorry about the dog's barking, if you can hear that, So all right
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we go. We go to the scene where Loofy sees the Mary for the
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first time, and yet another thing changing it to live action. In the
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anime, the marriage just sort of appears like as a gift, you know,
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so to all of them when they are ready to leave, and it's
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like that's a thing in the anime is that people could build a whole ship
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practically overnight, Like it's very, very quick, and the show is establishing
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that this ship exists already, and you know it's not completely done from the
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way that it's being portrayed here, but uh, it's something that Loufy has
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his eye on right away. And it turns out that uh, oh my
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god, Usap I wanted to say, sanjy Oosap is on the ship and
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he's like cleaning things out. He tries to present himself as having a much
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higher tier sort of job than he really does, and I love the reverence.
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Like Lufy looks at the figurehead and raises his hand to it really slowly,
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like is this real? Is am I seeing this? And there's just
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something so sweet about it, like you guys know, I have never really
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been particularly into the design of the Going Mary. I found this ship like
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Figurehead to be kind of weird and whatever. But again, it feels like
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somebody really respecting the source material here, and I have to imagine that this
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actor, he's like channeling this moment of playing this incredibly iconic role and seeing
32:17
the fucking ship for the first time. Like I don't think this actor is
32:22
actually seeing it for the first time, but you know what I'm saying,
32:24
Like, the whole approach here feels very much like I can't believe I get
32:34
to be here and be the one doing this, and I just really love
32:38
the awe of this moment. So there's a little back and forth here where
32:45
USAP tells him all of these unlikely things about how the ship is like,
32:50
you know, the fastest top of the line, pure luxury, and I
32:55
don't know how much of the technical terms about like you know, the way
33:00
it's built inside, how much of that is correct. We know that he
33:04
is a born liar, so I'm not like he may not be lying entirely.
33:13
There's certainly a possibility he's completely telling the truth. I don't know quite
33:17
enough, so I won't cast aspersions, but he really has like a bit
33:25
of a bonding moment here with Loofy, And I really want to talk about
33:34
the actor who plays Oosap for a second, So usop beloved character. You
33:40
guys know how much I have grown to love him. He was somebody who
33:45
really frustrated me a lot at first, and as time passed, I just
33:50
was like, oh my god, I just felt for him so much,
33:52
especially as as a character who is in and amongst people with unbelievable abilities,
33:58
and he himself does have any like. He starts off with no real gift
34:05
beyond being able to use a sling shop pretty well and lying his ass off,
34:09
and the only other person who doesn't have any like superpowers is Nami.
34:17
So he is somebody that I was really sort of like, I wonder how
34:23
they're going to cast and how this guy is gonna pull it off, because
34:28
I didn't warm to us up right away. I found him difficult to like
34:32
initially due to a combination of how much he lies and the fact that he's
34:38
a coward and there and there was also like the weird aspect of his character
34:46
where he is so like proud of the fact that his father never came home
34:53
again, and from the little bit you get in this episode, it feels
34:59
to me like they're going to handle that a bit differently, because there's a
35:01
moment where Lufy says, I've met your dad, I know him, and
35:07
he says, like you've hung out, and when Lufy says yes, Usup
35:12
says oh that's cool and seems like truly saddened by it, which is the
35:22
energy that I would expect but that you don't really get much of in the
35:27
show. So I think they're going to go in a slightly different direction with
35:32
it. But because of the way it was done in the anime, I
35:37
was always just sort of like, I don't feel like I understand you Usup,
35:40
Like you are giving your dad a pass when he should have been there
35:45
for you, and you seem to like be glad that he wasn't, or
35:51
I don't know, if it's supposed to be that he's just really making excuses
35:53
and telling himself a story about how he's okay with it, and it's supposed
35:58
to be that he's really not, but it felt like he was so anyway,
36:01
all that said, I felt like this actor does a really nice job
36:07
of getting across that this is a likable, good natured dude who is like
36:20
he means well always, you know, but also is kind of like can't
36:30
help himself. Like there's much more of a sense of I've got to talk
36:35
myself up because where I'm coming from is so humble that I don't want to
36:43
reveal how like basic my origins are. In like, I guess I'm saying
36:52
that he's bringing a tiny bit of a sense of shame that's motivating the lying,
36:58
whereas in the anime it was very much like I'm just lying because I
37:06
can at any given moment, which is certainly a way to go. But
37:10
I feel like adding this layer of like I've got to keep it hidden from
37:15
people what the truth is, and so I'll lie as a distraction that feels
37:22
more real and understandable to me. And also he has an ease to him
37:32
as well, which I feel like is going to be really nice when we
37:37
start to see more of him, to see that in contrast with when he's
37:40
really really afraid, there is he has a little bit of swagger, a
37:45
little bit, not a lot, but it really comes through as like part
37:51
of the lying, you know. So anyway, this whole thing. I
37:57
really enjoyed this first meat. And eventually when they say that they want to
38:01
buy the ship, he's talking about how you know, you've got to talk
38:06
to the person who owns the shipyard. So we have them all brought over
38:12
to the estate, where there's a momentary confrontation between the cook and oosup,
38:22
and before things can really begin to get mixed up, here comes Kaya,
38:27
and the actress playing Kaya does such a good job of being simultaneously extremely sweet
38:35
and also looking really really unwell. And you guys, I was so excited
38:42
so Captain Kuro is this This actor is fucking killing it. He is so
38:55
good, he is eating up the scenery. I am so delighted with him.
39:04
And he does the fucking like adjusting his glasses with the palm of his
39:07
hand thing that you guys know, the first time I saw him doing this,
39:09
I was like, what the fuck is with him adjusting his glasses that
39:13
way? That's so weird. And how delighted I was at the reveal of
39:17
why he does it this way. And I'm so excited about them keeping that
39:23
detail. I know that it's like, of course they kept that detail,
39:27
but I just you know, and this actor is perfect at being extremely precise
39:36
and polite, but also radiating like a sinister sort of vibe that makes you
39:44
go, ooh ah, you know what, I have a I have a
39:50
thing, and you would just find a reason to not be around him anymore.
39:54
This dude, it's so good, you guys. I'm so excited.
39:59
And when he he really begins to like unleash the ugly side of himself.
40:07
He's genuinely really scary. I was so pleased. So we have the conversation
40:16
about whether they can come in and have dinner. He doesn't want her to
40:22
for we know what reasons, but at the moment, It's Kaya's birthday and
40:28
she can sort of just be like, come on, it's my birthday.
40:30
Let me do what I want. So everybody is invited in, but they
40:35
are going to have to have baths and change into something more formal before they
40:40
are allowed to have dinner with her. And this gives us a scene of
40:46
just Kaya and oos up together where he is storytelling and she is very taken
40:52
with the stories that he's telling, but also as she's laughing and enjoying herself,
40:58
she is still coughing and made really clear like she is not doing great.
41:05
So this, uh, there's a really interesting scene. It's kind of
41:10
funny because I mean, you guys know. So there's a scene where Namia
41:19
is getting changed and she is really feeling a bit of a way about this
41:27
massive closet full of clothes that are invaluable and just open for her to choose
41:35
whatever she wants. She is somebody who doesn't have a lot, and if
41:39
she could just like sell all these clothes, you'd probably have, you know,
41:43
enough money to make up the difference on the debt that she's trying to
41:47
repay. But she talks a lot about how like the rich don't have the
41:54
same emotions you and I have. They don't understand caring about things the way
42:00
that you and I do, And what this is meant to be is a
42:07
bit of like her learning that the rich have feelings too, because later on,
42:14
when she actually talks to Kaiya, she finds out all of the clothing
42:19
in here belonged to Kia's mother, who died at sea, and Kia hasn't
42:23
had the wherewithal to go through it and sell or donate things because she misses
42:30
her parents so much that she still hasn't really coped and then Nami feels embarrassed
42:37
at the fact, Like you don't see her be embarrassed externally, but it's
42:40
very clear that inside she's having a little bit of a like, Wow,
42:46
I was really hard on her, and to find out how it actually is,
42:52
I guess I was pretty wrong about that. But you guys know that
42:57
I have just got absolutely no fucking patient for the rich at this moment.
43:01
So while I understand the let's like have this moment and Provenami wrong, most
43:09
of me was agreeing with her, especially like the rich don't have the same
43:14
emotions. Kaya is a very different case because she's like terminally ill and being
43:19
manipulated by an external force. But honestly, when there are like people out
43:23
there suffering and you have a huge amount of like possessions that you could sell
43:29
and do some good with and you just aren't, it's very difficult for me
43:32
to not be like, do anything, do fucking anything. So, yeah,
43:39
her ranting against the rich, it's supposed to be a teachable moment,
43:45
but I was frankly just nodding my head most of the time, because,
43:49
like I am a firm believers there's a type of rich, you know,
43:53
there's a lot of people who when you talk about fuck the rich, they
43:55
think that you're coming at them, and it's like, are you a multimillion
44:00
No, then you're not the person I'm talking about. But I really do
44:04
firmly believe there is a level of rich you cannot achieve unless you are a
44:15
bad person, like they're just to me. There is a threshold where what
44:22
you have is more than adequate, and you should reach that and then be
44:28
like, Okay, well, mostly I'm just going to give the rest of
44:30
this away, and if you don't feel the obligation to do that, I
44:37
genuinely think there's something wrong with you. So I am you know, not
44:45
trying to say again, Kaya is exact because her situation is very unique.
44:52
But mostly I do tend to agree that like, the emotions of the super
44:58
rich are not the same as ordinary people, because I don't know how you
45:00
walk around in a regular ass village a half mile from your house where everybody
45:08
is like scraping by and don't do something to help them. But this is
45:15
just me on my usual fuck the rich soapbox as I often get up on
45:21
there, and I will be getting stepping down from it now. Sorry,
45:27
sarahim says, given what we know of the richest, most powerful people on
45:30
the planet, the celestiald dragons, really doubt Oda is trying to paint the
45:35
rich as sympathetic in general, just that Kaya herself is I would agree with
45:38
that. Yeah, And that's what I mean, is like it felt like
45:43
a bit of a but again, her her situation is just extreme. It's
45:49
just extreme. She has an extreme situation going on. So let's see.
45:55
I'm trying to jump around here because I want to make sure I have enough
45:59
time to talk about everything, because I'm already running out of time. So
46:02
we get the scene in the kitchen where it's revealed that the blue haired girl
46:07
and the chef are both in on the whole killing Kaya thing, and they
46:16
have poisoned the soup. He almost takes a taste of it because he is
46:23
just on autopilot as a chef. We have Kuro coming in and holding out
46:30
a glass and saying what is this? And I was not totally clear what
46:37
it was about the glass that he has an issue with. It's I'm not
46:43
sure that we're actually supposed to see what it is. But and he has
46:47
those like white gloves on as well. In this scene, but oh,
46:52
it's got a little chip. Wait, there's a little chip and like a
46:57
stain I think is what we see it zeros in on it, but it's
47:00
like really really quick, Yeah, there it is. It's it is pretty
47:07
gross, like she should have caught this. But he picks us up,
47:12
says what is this and drops the glass and it causes her to jump in
47:17
such a way that I really appreciated. It feels like her reaction is out
47:22
of proportion to what just happened. But because her reaction is out of proportion,
47:27
it gives you an indicator that this guy is extremely dangerous and will pop
47:30
off at any second. Like you know what I'm saying, anybody who has
47:34
lived with a person who is really volatile and abusive. It can start with
47:38
just them trying to scare you in a silly, almost petty way, and
47:44
begin to snowball pretty quickly into them like really acting out, and we go
47:52
from there to the dinner itself, which I said the word claustrophoe tense,
48:01
I mean, just really painful to sit through. And you know, it's
48:07
like remarkable to me the way that Lufy moves through this speech that he gives
48:14
about trying to buy the ship with the ease of somebody who is completely unaware
48:20
of the tension, being like so thick you could cut it with a knife.
48:24
It's completely in character. But it just for me. I'm like,
48:28
how are you able to? Like, he gets up on the table and
48:32
walks over everybody's food toward her, like in the most inappropriate fashion, and
48:37
I'm just watching him, like, oh my god, loofy, sir,
48:40
please sit, But no, he will not sit. He will be heard.
48:45
And there's also, of course her wanting to have some of the fish,
48:49
but she is instructed no, she has to have what's good for her
48:52
constitution, which the soup is blue, and I believe that the tea that
48:59
she's being has been blue as well, which is supposed to signal that the
49:02
same poison is in the tea as in the soup. It's just much more
49:07
concentrated. And I really liked that Nomi tries to stick up for her a
49:14
little bit and just be like, well, it's your birthday, you should
49:17
be able to eat what you want, and Kuro like chimes in and she
49:23
just looks at him and says, so she can't speak for herself, and
49:29
just really kind of puts him in his place for a second in a way
49:31
that I've truly admired. But all of this results in him getting irritated and
49:43
basically being like, you guys have to get out of here. Kaya is
49:47
like, absolutely not, it's way too late. They can't be out there.
49:52
Let them stay the night, and he agrees, but says that they
49:55
have to be gone by, you know, first thing in the morning.
50:00
So then we have the scene in the wine cellar and I can't remember,
50:07
guys the remind me the name of the sheep man, but he is the
50:13
one that's like trying to represent Kaya, and he has seen that Kaya is
50:16
supposed to be handing over all of the shipbuilding business to Kuro, and he
50:23
thinks this is extremely suspect and wants to talk to Kaya about it, and
50:30
Kuro isn't going to let him. And this is the first time that we
50:36
see his powers and the first time that we see his knife hands. And
50:44
I really like this scene. I really really loved it. The only thing
50:52
about it that I felt was kind of weird was the dude who's playing our
50:58
sheep guy has what almost looks like a smile on his face, even though
51:02
he is supposed to be feeling threatened and afraid. I wasn't really getting threatened
51:12
and afraid from his body language and his face. I just felt like his
51:16
expression was off, and I wasn't sure if that wasn't meant to be because
51:22
of the fact that he's like supposed to be sort of sheep like. But
51:27
I like felt as if he probably could have been played by somebody else and
51:32
it would have been a little bit better. I don't know, that might
51:36
just be me, but anyway, this is when Kuro comes up from behind
51:40
him with his fucking, you know, Freddy Krueger fingers, and we see
51:47
them like splay out behind this dude in a real spooky fashion before they come
51:54
through his back and he gets impaled through the scent. Now in the show,
52:00
or I keep saying the show, this is a show. In the
52:04
anime, this guy is still alive. Later on, I had definitely thought
52:09
he was murdered in this. It looks like he's actually dead, but he
52:15
may not be. We shall see. So then we have Lufy and Zoro
52:22
running into each other in the hallways of the house. The place is apparently
52:28
really difficult to find your way around. Lufy, of course is trying to
52:30
find something to eat, so he's going to the kitchen. Zorro is trying
52:35
to find something to drink, and Nami is out here just raiding the place.
52:39
And she's got a pillowcase that she's filling steadily with all kinds of stuff,
52:45
and it is she hears like footsteps coming toward her and ducks into a
52:52
room without really checking adequately, and it turns out this is Kaya's room,
52:59
and that's how she winds up in this conversation with Kaya about her parents and
53:04
her history and everything. I love. When Kaya says, have you ever
53:07
lost somebody close to you? And Namy says no, even though we know
53:12
she has, But even with somebody who would have no way of telling whether
53:16
she's like telling the truth or not, or be able to use that against
53:20
her. Nammy is just so unwilling to be vulnerable even now. It's just
53:29
a reflex, you know, which strikes me as very very true. So
53:37
the two of them bond a little bit of love. When there's at some
53:43
point she like asks Namy a question, and whatever Namy's response is, she
53:49
says, I'm jealous. I think it might be. When Namy says,
53:52
I haven't lost anyone close to me, and she says, I'm jealous,
53:54
and Namy says, says the rich girl in a real snide sort of way,
54:00
and Kiya is like, you really aren't good at this friend's thing,
54:07
are you? And there's like a pause and then Nammy starts laughing and it's
54:09
like, I guess I'm not. And I really liked that bit. I
54:15
just felt like the connection felt genuine. Nammy is sort of being a little
54:20
chagrined, but she's not taking it back or anything. It's not like she's
54:24
not feeling that embarrassed about it. It's just sort of a, h you
54:30
got a point, you know. So Yeah, I really enjoyed the convo
54:35
between the two of them, And in the end, Kaya is about to
54:40
just let her walk away with all of the stuff that she was stealing.
54:45
She said something about how like I've got too much shit already, and nam
54:49
decides that it's a bit of a shabby thing to do to a girl that
54:52
she has grown to like and doesn't take it. In the kitchen, meanwhile,
55:00
is down here just playing with his sling shot while in the night away,
55:07
and this is when Lufy finds out that Yeah, Sup is his dad,
55:13
and he is so excited he's part of Shank's crew. Wait, you
55:21
know my dad? Yeah, yeah, I do. He's the best,
55:24
always made time for some pirate wisdom. So you guys like hung out,
55:30
Yeah, that's cool, And it's obvious he's distressed. Lufy doesn't seem to
55:42
see that. Zoro chimes in, if you're gonna talk about feelings, I'm
55:45
really gonna need that drink, and then Usat mentions the wine cellar. Of
55:52
course, when they go down there, they find sheep Man's body and begin
55:57
to realize that some shit has gone quite quite wrong. And we then have
56:06
the like Kuro comes in, well, well, well it appears we have
56:14
some rats in our cellar. Now. He lets us up run off and
56:21
rightfully says, nobody is going to believe a thing that he says, so
56:25
let him say what he needs to say. I don't think Louvie went to
56:30
the basement with them. I'm pretty sure he didn't, so he isn't part
56:34
of this yet. But we get a pretty funny moment where Zoro is about
56:39
to fight Kuro and he just gets bashed on the back of the head and
56:47
goes down like a sack of flower. It's really honestly hilarious because he's posturing
56:57
so bad with these two swords, looking tough a hell like genuine, and
57:01
then the way he just fucking hits the floor. Oh rough. So yeah,
57:07
this is when USAP runs off these fucking two, uh dump the bodies
57:15
plus his swords down a well, of course, assuming that these two are
57:21
totally dead. We'll see about that. And Kuro himself is just trying to
57:28
like keep things fucking quiet for right now, so I'm trying to jump ahead
57:36
a little bit here. So yeah, this is when USAP is running through
57:38
the town yelling to everybody that they're pirates and nobody is believing him. It's
57:45
also the middle of the night, which is interesting because I don't know how
57:46
many times he's done this at night, but he, like, I would
57:52
really think that if he has only ever done this during the day, if
57:55
he starts doing it at night, that might get my attention slightly more.
58:00
But it doesn't matter because in the end he literally says, there really are
58:07
pirates. Why won't anyone believe me? And I was like, why will
58:13
anyway? Sir? You know very well, why what do you mean?
58:19
Come on? Like all you have ever done is this over and over and
58:23
over again. And he's sort of reminiscing here as we go into a flashback
58:30
of him very very young at his mother's bedside and you know, him telling
58:37
her that his father's coming back soon and then once he gets here, you'll
58:42
be well again. And he like she says, of course, of course
58:46
that's true, and dies like on the spot in a way that I was
58:52
almost found kind of comical, like it's not and she plays the scene well,
58:57
but it was really a moment of like wow, that's wow. Right
59:01
then, okay, And as he's saying like, why wi't anybody believe me,
59:07
he looks up and sees Cody, who is or Kobe who is saying
59:12
I believe you, And that's how the episode ends. Oh right. Florian
59:16
says, Lufy stayed in the kitchen and ate the soup. I forgot about
59:20
that because, like I think, I remember that he eats the soup in
59:24
the anime as well, and obviously like that shit did not poison him,
59:30
so I can't recall why not if it's the fact that he's got the rubber
59:32
powers that makes it so it doesn't affect him. The same way or what
59:37
you know. But uh, yeah, that's right. Thank you for that
59:40
reminder, because he picks the soup up and I had a moment of like,
59:44
oh no, and then I thought, wait, I think I remember
59:46
this, so yeah, so yeah, that's the end of the episode.
59:51
I really this is so much fun, you guys. I'm enjoying it so
59:53
much. I'm really enjoying going through with the Owen. It's just a really
59:58
fun thing to see someone who has only had a real tangential sort of like
1:00:07
touchstones with this show watching this and having like some frame of reference but not
1:00:15
knowing everything that's going to happen. And also like, I really am curious,
1:00:20
you guys, how many people there are out there who watched this without
1:00:23
ever having seen the anime and not having any idea what the anime is like.
1:00:30
Because I keep being brought up short as I realize how weird some of
1:00:37
this might seem if you don't know what this world is like so far.
1:00:42
You know, we've got these like weirdo fishmen that are out here yelling at
1:00:47
Buggy the Clown, and they're talking about like, oh you humans, And
1:00:52
it's very clear ar Lung does not consider himself to be human. But then
1:00:59
we have this fire sheep man who I believe would consider himself human, except
1:01:06
that he isn't. Like come on, and there's no explanation given. Like
1:01:13
the ways in which people's wild appearances in this world vary, there's very very
1:01:22
little backstory on most of that. So I can't help but wonder, like
1:01:27
people who don't know the aesthetics of the show going in, what do they
1:01:32
think about these kinds of moments? Like truly very very curious about it.
1:01:42
Anyway, Okay, so I have to wrap up. Thank you guys again
1:01:45
so much. Appreciate you for hanging out, and thank you also to Gabby
1:01:50
for commissioning this Until the next time. To lou motherfuckers, that was an unspoiled network