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UK Column News - 6th October 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. Today is Monday the 6th of
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October 2025, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News.
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I'm your host Brian Garish, delighted to have Ben Rubin with
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me in the studio. And we'll be joined by Sandy and
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Adams who'll be coming in on Live Link.
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Well, a very nice day here in Plymouth and we did have a
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beautiful day yesterday, which is always good for uplifting the
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mood. And probably most people in the
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UK today need a little bit of uplift to balance out what is
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generally a pretty dark news front.
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We're going to try and do a bit of both.
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We're going to be reporting what's been happening with the
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Palestine action protests. We're going to be having a look
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at protest angst, which of course is being driven up by the
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mainstream media. We'll also be having a look at
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uniparty politics. Ben is going to be getting into
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the Judeo Islamic Alliance, which is absolutely fascinating.
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Sandy Adams is going to be taking a look at drones over
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Somerset. And we're also going to be
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majoring in on transformational change.
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Now some of this is at the global and I'll say high level
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nationalist level. Of course, Tony Blair's name
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comes into the mix. And we're also going to be
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having a look at the bottom end, what's happening with
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transformational change at community levels.
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And finally, we're going to have a look at digital ID, but with a
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bit of a boost, which is essentially a little bit of
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focus in on what people can actually do.
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Well, let's kick off with a an excellent report which will Will
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Coleshill sent in for the UK column.
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And this is about the protests in London.
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This is Will Coleshill reporting for UK column today.
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I'm here in Trafalgar Square where we have a protest against
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the ban on Palestine action. The police have just moved in
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behind me and we're about to witness the first arrest.
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We have people here with the signs saying that they support
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Palestine action, which under current legislation has been
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prescribed as a terrorist organization over criminal
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damage. We have the police making a
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cordon now. This is the first arrest that
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I've seen so far today. What first led you to come out
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with this sign and face up to what they're going to throw at
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you, I guess. Well.
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What they're going to throw at us, whatever it is, is nothing
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compared to what Israel is throwing at the Palestinians.
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And it's completely out of proportion to the Hamas attack.
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And it's been almost universally condemned from our own
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government. And that's why I'm here.
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And the idea that people like Palestine Action are terrorists
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and therefore we who are now supporting them are deemed to be
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terrorist is just preposterous. Our government is trying to shut
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down our protest against a genocide and against the war
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crimes that our government is committing with our tax money.
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And we need to hold on to our our right to free speech and the
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prescription. We are protesting the
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prescription of Palestine action, which was an overreach
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of the law, even by the standards of the UN human rights
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chief Volcker Turk, and also, I believe by Amnesty
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International. So we're here to to make sure we
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hang on to our right to free speech and to protest.
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As a Jewish person whose relatives were killed in the
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Holocaust, and I'm outraged that the Israeli government and our
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government used the Holocaust as a shield for a Jewish state to
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commit genocide and to lump all Jewish people together.
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Assume that all Jewish people support Israel, which in my mind
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has resulted in anti-Semitism in this country, which resulted in
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the other day in Manchester. I knew that was going to happen
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because they lump everybody together, all Jews with the
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genocide that Israel is committing and it's Zionism.
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It's not Jewish people. You're a little maybe a little
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weary that you know, we will, there will be a charge even seen
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again that that we will be charged if, if we're repeat
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offenders. But I think, well, I don't think
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I know that we all feel so strongly that that we're
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prepared to take that chance and take the consequences.
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Are you worried that you might go to prison?
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Well. It, I mean, makes no difference
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to me. I'm retired.
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It won't affect my career. For younger people, I can see it
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be more of an issue because it could affect their careers.
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That's why I think it's important that older people like
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myself come and do our bit. The strength of this type of
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protest is it has brought out the establishment.
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You know, you can see the average age looking around.
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They're people who don't have to worry about their employment
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prospects largely. That's part of the reason.
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But they're professional people. They're retired teachers,
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doctors, lawyers, you know, Armed Services people.
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They're establishment people. And it's very hard for the
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country to ignore that. And it's even hard for the
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mainstream media to ignore that. So I think the exposure that
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this protest has had has made a big difference in terms of
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public opinion. Are you going to try and
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challenge this through conscientious acquittal by the
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jury system? So you're likely to go not
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guilty and then rely on the jury out of conscience to say not
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guilty? I might do that, yeah.
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I mean, the problem sometimes is that don't let you say why
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you're doing it. And that's a ridiculous.
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Why shouldn't we be allowed to say what we're doing?
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So. I haven't really decided that.
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This issue was only going to be solved by the grassroots, and
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that seems to be what's happening.
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World public opinion has shifted monumentally on the Palestine
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issue, and any politician who ignores that does so at their
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peril. OK, so I've spoken to some of
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the people here today holding up these placards and get a little
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bit of insight into how they think.
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One thing that's quite interesting seems to be pivotal
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is this judicial review and whether this entire prescription
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of Palestine action is going to be thrown out.
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Also key to this is the role of juries, whether those juries are
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going to be able to get these people off through conscientious
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acquittal, and therefore whether the entire state apparatus
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trying to label them as terrorists is going to be
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rendered ineffective. This is Will Coleshill reporting
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for UK column. Well, a big thank you to Will
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Coleshill for that report. That was only a a small
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selection of the interviews that he actually carried out.
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We've given our audience 5 minutes of that.
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Of course, the beat. Nobody will ever see an
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equivalent of local opinion, opinion of people on the
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streets, on the BBC, for example.
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So we're really going to say that Will did a great job by
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getting up there and seeing those very dangerous protesters,
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some 500 people arrested from 18 to 89, one blind gentleman LED
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away by the police. So this is the state of the
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country. If you dare challenge the
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government. And notice what that Jewish lady
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said. She was very concerned about
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Zionism. She said that Jewish people can
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effectively tell the difference between what's Zionist policy
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and what's reality, what should be in the hearts of human
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beings. But according to the government,
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there must be no criticism of Israel.
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Let's reinforce that point by having a look at the
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Conservative Conference. Thank you, Conference.
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Thank you. Conservatives love Manchester,
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it is a great city. Of.
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Free trade and free thinking. 240 years ago, in the 1780s,
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this was still a small market town, but something was
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stirring, a spirit of enterprise that would turn Manchester into
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a global economic powerhouse. And it was back in the 1780s
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that the very first Jewish community was established in
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this city, a small group of families worshipping in a rented
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room in a back alley just a short walk from where I am
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standing. And right from the very start,
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Jewish people have been part of the fabric of Manchester.
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They've been adding their distinct, unique contribution to
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this fantastic city while at the same time embracing Britain as
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their home. The horrific and despicable
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attack at Heaton Park Synagogue on Thursday has shocked us all.
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But for many in the Jewish community it did not come as a
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surprise. Many have been living with a
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sense of rising dread that an attack like this was becoming
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inevitable. Yesterday I met members of the
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congregation and visited the site of the attack.
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The strength of Manchester's Jewish community is humbling,
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targeting the centre of community life on the holiest
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day of the year. Was not just an attack on
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British Jews, it was an attack on all of us.
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It was an attack on the idea that Britain is a safe place for
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Jews. On Yom Kippur, the Day of
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Atonement, Jews take time for introspection, to ask themselves
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where have we gone wrong in the past and what do we need to do
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to be better in the future? These are questions we urgently
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need to ask ourselves as a nation.
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Extremism has gone unchecked. You see it manifest in the
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shameful behaviour on the streets of our cities, protests
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which are in fact carnivals of hatred directed at the Jewish
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homeland. Well, that that was a very short
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excerpt from what Bananock had to say.
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And essentially the nation got a lecture which was everything to
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do with matters Jewish. Now, my personal opinion of this
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is that if she'd started out with a minute's silence for the
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for, for the attack on the synagogue and the people killed,
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that would have been an appropriate statement to give
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over the feeling of human sympathy for the event, to make
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it known that the Conservative Party was feeling for the Jewish
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community. But in fact, she gave the
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audience and the country at at large a lecture about the fact
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that it was the Jewish community that had set up Manchester.
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That's effectively what the message was.
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This this then I found just incredible that the party should
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focus in nothing about the state of the nation, nothing about
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what's happening to many, many other people in the UK, nothing
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about the people killed overseas.
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This was just simply a political statement in support of the
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Zionist government as the start of the of the Conservative
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Conference. So we must move on from that.
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But people can go online and see the full clip.
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Now let's compare it with Owen Jones, who we do not always see
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eye to eye with, but he was at the Labour Party conference and
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he challenged Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper.
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Let's have a little look at this clip.
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But it means the Labour Party's official position is that Israel
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is committing genocide. And that's quite an odd
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situation to be in where the Labour Party officially says
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it's genocide as democratic side about its members whilst the
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government continues to arm and. Facilitate it?
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I want to see what. People think about that.
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Yvette, the UN Commission, the independent Commission says
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genocide has been committed. You're still arming the
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genocide. There is a really important
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peace process and set of discussions that are underway at
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the moment, which is all about trying to get a ceasefire, the
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release of all the hostages and also the return of humanitarian
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aid. You're supplying the components
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to F35 jets which are bombing children in Gaza.
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We've had discussions at the UN General Assembly involving the
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recognition, the historic recognition.
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Now in fact, Owen Jones followed Yvette Cooper for several more
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minutes. She would not address the issue.
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The Labour Party had just admitted in conference that
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Israel was guilty of genocide. And yet when he pressed her on
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the fact that UK is still pumping in the arms for Israel
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to use, the Foreign Secretary wouldn't engage.
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So essentially we're now living in a country where the
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government says you must not criticise the Zionist state, you
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must not criticise the UK government's support of that
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state. And even the Conservatives as an
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opposition party clearly have an agenda which is more important
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than looking after the people in this country.
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So how can we really emphasise what's going on here and why we
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need to look deeper? Well let's jump back to 2023
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when the Guardian had this report.
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It was talking about right wing personalities using X to bring
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anti-Semitic theories to light in the US.
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I'll just bring it a bit of text over this because this article,
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when you got into it, suddenly started about talking, sorry,
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suddenly started talking about the global project on hate and
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extremism. And suddenly we're told that
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this organization is capable of influencing how Twitter was
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censoring reports. And it's said here that
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following the report's publication that's by GPAHE,
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3031 Generation of Identity accounts were suspended,
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although 26 were reinstated. What point am I making here?
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I'm talking about the immense power and indeed money behind
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organisations protecting the reputation of the Zionist
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government. Now if we look at the
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organization itself, Global Project Against Satan Extremism,
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this is their website. But if I come in on to the two
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key women involved, we've got Wendy Vier and Heidi Bierick.
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If we just have a look at the first lady, Wendy, you haven't
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got to read all of this. We're just putting this up on
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screen. But the first thing you can see
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is huge engagement with the world media, The Guardian, The
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New York Times, Wired, NBC News, BBC, etcetera.
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But what you really need to understand is that this lady
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comes from the Southern Poverty Law Centre.
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Why is that of interest? All you'll see in just a moment.
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Here's her colleague Heidi. Let's bring her CV summary up on
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the screen. And again, you can see the power
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in the media as an influencer with the New York Times,
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Washington Post, Austin Globe, Guardian, BBC, Wired, Financial
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Times. But if we get into the depths of
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it, she's also formerly the Southern Poverty Law Centre.
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And if we look at that organization itself, which says
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it is there particularly targeting anti-Semitism, well,
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this is the killer because this organization is dealing in huge
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amounts of money. It has the facilities in an
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endowment of 822 million as a conservative online figure.
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So immense power driving the agenda as to what we can and
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cannot criticize. But it's very clear from really
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the last few days that both the Labour government and the
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Conservative opposition are going down the lines that thou
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shalt not criticize the Zionist state.
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Over to you, man. Thank you, Brian.
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Good afternoon, everybody. We're going to have a little
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look at the state of Muslim Jewish relations in the UK,
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which based on the introduction to the news today, one might
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assume they're quite fragile. But actually I think they might
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be more robust than people realise if we look behind the
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scenes. And we're going to focus in
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immediately on the new, relatively new president of the
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Board of Deputies of British Jews.
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This is Phil Rosenberg, a youthful 38 year old and he was
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when he was elected in as president in May last year and
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he is now running the centuries old Board of Deputies is the
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oldest Jewish community group established in 1760, which very
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proudly presents itself as the voice of British Jews.
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So Phil Rosenberg there is now the voice of British Jews and he
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told Jewish News in this article.
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Provide a link to it, as ever, that he hopes to become a
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unifying figure for the community in this country while
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also becoming a leader who in the aftermath of the 7th of
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October, can build bridges outside of the Jewish community.
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Importantly, and come back to Mr. Rosenberg later.
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But one of the key initiatives that he's been progressing, we
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particularly progressed at the start of this year, was this,
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which is the Drum Lanrigg Accords, the Muslim Jewish
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Reconciliation Accords, a framework for reconciliation,
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understanding and solidarity. And this was quite an incredible
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undertaking. It was agreed and signed at the
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Drumland Rig Castle in Scotland back in January this year.
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This castle is owned by Richard Scott, 10th Duke, 10th Duke of
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Bucklew and also the 12th Duke of Queensbury.
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It's quite an esteemed chap and also he was up until very
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recently the largest private landowner in Scotland, owning
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217,000 acres. And they gathered together in
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this castle a number of senior clerics and community leaders
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from the Jewish and the Muslim community in the UK.
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And there was much convening and much discussion.
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And I will read out some of the accords.
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Actually, I think this is very interesting and important for us
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to understand. So they say that Muslim and
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Jewish communities around the world share a profound spiritual
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heritage. Both traditions are rooted in
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monotheism, the sanctity of life, and a commitment to
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justice. Global tensions, particularly in
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the Middle East, often strain relationships between these two
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communities, leading to misunderstandings and fractures
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at a local level. In times of crisis, these
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fractures can deepen, escalating Islamophobia, anti-Semitism and
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societal polarisation. Such tensions do not occur in
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isolation. They impact daily life on our
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streets and online. This includes instances in which
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children face bullying in school, students encounter
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hostility on campuses, and individuals and communities feel
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isolated, mistrusted and afraid. This underscores the urgent need
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for sustained dialogue, mutual understanding and practical
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collaboration. And the basis for reconciliation
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and mutual respect exists within both Jewish and Islamic sacred
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texts. Importantly, they route this
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into the sacred text all the way through with reference to the
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Torah, to the Mishnah, Talmud and also to the Koran.
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There are a bunch of things agreed out of this.
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So they established some foundational principles for
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reconciliation, talking about unity and diversity, sacred
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texts as a guide, commitment to non harm, recognizing the impact
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of global crises. They're also establishing mutual
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commitments, respect and reconciliation, education and
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awareness, safe spaces for worship and reflection, shared
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civic responsibility, crisis response and advocacy.
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And this was signed by quite an amazing group.
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Price. We've just seen the image of
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them. They're sitting together.
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But we have from the Muslim community the chief Imam Dr.
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Syed Razawi, who's a Shia Muslim, the senior Imam Khari
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Aseem NBE, who is Sunni, Imam Sheikh Mohammed Ishmael who is
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Sunni Hed Imam Dr. Sheikh Khalifa Azad Sunni.
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Now Shaddivrav, who is president of His Highness the Aga Khan
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National Council for the UK and also His Excellency Kinana
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Jamaluddin by Sahib, who is Bora, which is another Muslim
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sectors. I understand it.
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And on the Jewish side we have Chief Rabbi Sir Efrain Mervis
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KBE, who is actually now being presented as the chief rabbi for
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the whole of the Commonwealth, not just the UK.
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So he's got this kind of imperial remit which is
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ultimately what the Commonwealth is.
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It's the the former colonies also have Rabbi Josh Levy from
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Reform duties and Rabbi Charlie Baginski from Liberal Judaism,
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Senior Rabbi Jonathan Wittenberg OBE Masotti, Senior Rabbi Joseph
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Dweck Safari, and Senior Rabbi Elshanon Feldman, Orthodox
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Jewish, representing the Jewish community there.
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And they were very pleased with themselves for the agreement
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that they made, as they well should be.
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They made some commitments to practical implementation to
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establish a Muslim Jewish Leadership Council, an
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educational collaboration committee, civic engagement and
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joint charitable projects to work on university and campus
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outreach together, Religious freedoms Committee.
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And they're also committed to moving forward in solidarity.
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And they say that these accords lay the foundation for a
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transformative relationship between the Jewish and Muslim
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communities here in the UK. Quite a big deal there.
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And we haven't seen a lot of mainstream media about.
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This. I've not seen anything about it
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at all. The public is being fed all the
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strife and the supposed division.
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Meanwhile, behind the scenes, it's fine wine and dining in
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order to set up this, whatever we call it, memorandum of
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understanding. Some.
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Of this, Yeah. I mean, that's quite a profound
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statement by quite a significant bunch of men.
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Yeah. And.
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And who else was there? Obviously Charles the King, He
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was there. This is exactly his sort of
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things and the defender of faith.
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There he is. I'm looking very carefully.
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Is he where wearing a kipper is that?
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No, no, that's a reflect. It's a reflection in the mirror.
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It's a good question because I thought that too.
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Initially, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
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So, and this is obviously playing out right.
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So this is having an impact on society.
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You know, we, we, we've, as we've talked about, there are
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things going on in in the Middle East at the moment in Gaza that
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often does get presented as a kind of Jew versus Muslim issue.
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But actually many Palestinians are Christians, many
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Palestinians are atheists. It's not just about Islam.
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Ultimately it's, it's a much broader issue than that.
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But we did in Manchester last week see an attack on a
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synagogue by what is ostensibly an Islamic terrorist, a man
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named Jihad, quite literally, right.
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So there are there are bad things playing out at a ground
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level. But then as we say, these things
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are going on behind the scenes and we've seen in response to
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attack in Manchester last week, phenomenal level of
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collaboration actually already here between the Jewish and the
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Muslim community because we've got Shabana Mahmoud who was
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sworn in as home secretary on a Quran.
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She is Muslim at the Community Security Trust, the CST, the
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charity that protects British Jews from terrorism and
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anti-Semitism, with Keir Starmer, whose wife is Jewish,
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talking about the measures that would need to be taken in the
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wake of the attacks. We've already seen over the
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weekend some new restrictions being put in place on repeated
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protests, which are going to be introduced with police being
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being given fresh powers. And actually, we've got a little
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video clip from the home secretary explaining what that
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means. The strengthening of the
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legislation that I'm going to bring about is based on the
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ability of the police to place conditions and restrictions on
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protests. And what I will be making
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explicit is that cumulative disruption, that is to say, the
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frequency of particular protests in particular places is in a in
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and of itself a reason for the police to be able to restrict
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and place conditions. That is to say, they can move
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them to a different place. They can restrict the time that
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those protests can occur on. So that will unlock all of the
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broader measures that the police can already do on on, on
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protests. It's been clear to me in
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conversations in the last couple of days that there is a gap in
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the law and there is an inconsistency of practice.
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So I'll be taking measures immediately to put that right.
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And I will be reviewing our wider OK protest legislation as
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well to make sure the arrangements we have can meet
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the scale of the challenge that we face, which is protecting the
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right to protest but ensuring that our communities can go
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about their daily business without feeling intimidated and
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also that public order can be maintained.
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So fascinating Bennett's protecting the right to protest
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as long as your protest is permitted by the government and
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effectively you are saying all the things which the government
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is going to allow you to say. But if you dare challenge the
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government, particularly on matters to do with the state of
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Israel, then they're going to come in very hard.
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And although we haven't got time in today's news, what is being
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set up of course fits very well with the policies over
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migration. So we're creating more state
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assets to deal with people in large numbers that the
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government is going to remove. So there's some very, very
27:35
dangerous things happening under the surface, but luckily we can
27:39
see them. Yes, well, luckily, yeah.
27:42
They protecting the right to protest by restricting the right
27:45
to process. It's like censoring speech to
27:48
protect speech. It's it's the same, same
27:50
nonsense. You say the right things, you've
27:52
got nothing to fear but. Yes, absolutely.
27:55
And I think we know which kind of protests are going to be
27:57
cracking down on, right, which is the the ones that as you say
28:00
that they don't like. So anything that is anti
28:03
Zionist, pro Palestine and also the people outside the hotels
28:07
protesting about migrants, I think those are the ones that
28:10
really going to be pushed back on, unfortunately.
28:12
And this aligns very, very, very neatly.
28:14
I'm sure it's just a complete coincidence with this statement
28:17
that came from the Board of Deputies over the weekend
28:20
calling for more than 400 protest terror arrests to also
28:26
be investigated for stirring up racial hatred.
28:28
So it's not just enough that you've been arrested for
28:31
supposedly terror offences, we've also got to come in hard
28:35
on you as a racist. We're going to throw the book at
28:38
you, right? So this is what the Board of
28:40
Deputies is looking for. This is what the home secretary
28:42
is delivering, not necessarily just for the Board of Deputies,
28:45
but they are very closely aligned.
28:48
Over the weekend, this was so this coming thick and fast at
28:51
the moment. So this was also on on Sunday,
28:53
we saw a another protest. So I think we had Trafalgar
28:57
Square on Saturday, Palestine protests, and then on Sunday we
29:01
had the commemorative event honouring the lives of those
29:04
lost on the 7th of October 2023, calling for the release of the
29:06
hostages. And we've got a short clip of
29:10
Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mervis speaking at that event.
29:15
Today we remember the determination of the Jewish
29:18
people, despite everything that has happened, that we will
29:24
guarantee, with the help of Almighty God, that.
29:26
I'm Yisrael Thai. We as a nation will continue to
29:31
live on, and to live on in even greater strength in the future.
29:41
Today we remember. All subsequent atrocities since
29:46
that original 7th of October day.
29:51
On Friday, Valerie and I spent the day in Manchester with a
29:56
grieving community. We came to give strength, but we
30:01
emerged strengthened. What a remarkable community it
30:06
is, their tenacity, their resilience.
30:09
And hasn't this been the story of the Jewish people over the
30:13
past two years? We will definitely emerge
30:17
stronger. And with the help of God, I'm
30:20
Israel Kai, the Jewish people will live on and thrive for all
30:25
time. Just one point to make that if
30:32
he's passionate, we may or may not agree with what what he's
30:34
saying, but if we we accept that the man is passionate, it's
30:38
certainly something that is in contrast to the Archbishop of
30:42
Canterbury's delivery over the last few years.
30:44
We will see what the new incumbent has to say.
30:48
I don't suppose much will change.
30:49
But no, he was talking about the atrocity of October the 7th and
30:53
then all subsequent atrocities, none of which relate to what
30:58
we've been watching happening in in Gaza, as far as I could tell.
31:02
And he was talking about what happened last week, wasn't
31:05
talking about the 10s, potentially hundreds of
31:07
thousands of people that have been killed in Gaza by the
31:10
Israeli military over the past two years, Right.
31:13
So very clear set of priorities there from the from the chief
31:17
rather, I suppose as we should expect ultimately and just to
31:20
kind of draw us back into this sort of very interesting
31:23
interrelationship between the Jewish and the Muslim community
31:27
in the country. One of the one of many
31:31
organisations who helped to fund and organise that event is this
31:34
one, which Brian will be very familiar with.
31:37
This is the Peers Foundation. You can just see them tucked
31:39
away in the bottom there. And actually just having talked
31:42
about the Drum Ranri Records, which got signed back in
31:44
January, this report, the Commission into countering
31:47
online conspiracies in schools was issued in February, which
31:51
may or may not have been influenced by that.
31:53
I'm guessing that it might be, you know, it's likely that it
31:56
was, to be honest, is a very small group of people who are
31:59
very intimately connected with each other.
32:01
And this was a collaboration between Sir Trevor Pairs, who is
32:06
a Jewish gentleman, and Sir Mufti Hamid Patel CBE, who is
32:11
then subsequently gone on to become the interim chair of
32:14
Ofsted. Yeah.
32:15
So this again, aligns very neatly to that agreement that
32:19
we've described between these two groups.
32:21
I think that's that's quite interesting.
32:23
And that's happening at A at a UK level, as we talked about,
32:26
but also really importantly, at a global level as well.
32:30
And I'll just draw your attention to this organization.
32:32
This is the World Jewish Congress, which is an
32:36
International Federation of Jewish communities and
32:38
organisations founded in 1936, which describes itself as the
32:42
diplomatic arm of the Jewish people.
32:44
We'll put a link to the website. You can go and have a little
32:46
look. This is the website page and you
32:49
can see there the president gentleman called Ron Lauder from
32:53
the SD Lauder Dynasty, and he's on the executive committee with
33:00
Phil Rosenberg from the Board of British Deputies, Board of
33:05
Deputies of British Jews. She links us right back into
33:08
where we were at the start of this.
33:10
And just last week over in New York at the UN General Assembly,
33:15
Ron Lauder was very happy to put this post up, talking about
33:19
having the opportunity to have a first meeting with Syria's
33:21
President Ahmed Al Sharar on the sidelines of last week's UNGA,
33:25
very positive discussion about normalisation between Israel and
33:29
Syria. And regular viewers of the UK
33:32
column will know that the the Syrian currency president is
33:36
actually a former al Qaeda leader.
33:39
And we've reported on that extensively, including in this
33:44
excellent article by by Vanessa Bailey, which came out in
33:48
August, which I think puts a rather interesting and
33:51
potentially quite concerning spin on the relationship between
33:56
Israel and Syria and then also between the Jewish and the
34:01
Muslim communities that could potentially be playing out here
34:05
in the UK. Excellent, one more image to
34:10
bring on screen. Oh yes, Mr. Rosenberg, let's
34:13
bring him back and see how it goes for Phil Rosenberg, the new
34:18
voice of British Jews. Ben, thank you very much for
34:21
that analysis. Now obviously this is UK column
34:24
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34:27
but clearly there are lots and lots of questions to be asked
34:30
and we would like to thank the members of the Jewish community
34:33
who are now speaking to the UK Column to express their
34:37
concerns. What they see is inappropriate
34:40
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34:44
So we're not making these comments alienated from the
34:47
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34:52
And of course the Jewish lady who spoke in the Little World
34:55
Council clip at the beginning of our news today expressing some
34:59
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35:02
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36:58
We've got the German warfare edition going out tonight at
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37:06
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37:09
So I'm sure that's going to be very interesting.
37:11
And Sandy, let's bring you in here because we've got the
37:15
interview here with Doctor Noel McRae.
37:20
Yes, thank you, Brian. Yes, I, I interviewed Nile
37:24
McRae, doctor Nile McRae last week and it's going out
37:27
tomorrow, I believe. Was it today?
37:29
Can't remember. Oh, it's tomorrow at 1:00 PM.
37:32
Tomorrow at. 1:00 PM Yeah, and he's a it was a really good
37:38
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37:41
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38:01
Thank you. Excellent, Sandy.
38:03
Now your key segment for today is on the subject of drones in
38:07
Somerset. People will be saying, well, how
38:09
does this fit into the rest of the news?
38:11
We're going to we're going to try and show people some of the
38:15
linkage, but take us into what's happening with Somerset, the
38:19
Somerset Levels and drones. Well, um, this is not just kind
38:23
of, um, Somerset specific because I think this is, this is
38:27
part of a bigger project that's being, uh, rolled out really
38:30
across the UK. And as we know, Deloitte, um,
38:34
did, uh, put out a few months ago that they, they're going to
38:39
have their, their, their, their aim is to have 900,000 drones
38:42
across the UK between 2030 and onwards.
38:46
So, yeah, the, the, this is from the, the Country Gazette in
38:51
Somerset and the, the Somerset Council have been been given an
38:57
award of 191,370 lbs. And this project, this, this
39:03
money comes from the Future Flight Regional Demonstration
39:06
Fund and they call it Project Rescue.
39:10
Now this is the, this is the acronym for the Resilience and
39:13
Emergency Services coordination using enabled drones.
39:18
And that that actually equates to rescued.
39:21
The project will also bring together local emergency
39:23
services, resilience teams, government agencies and drone
39:27
service operators to develop the case for adopting the scheme in
39:29
Somerset. Now in 2015, Sorry, yeah, it was
39:34
20. Was it 2015?
39:36
Yes, it was 2015. We had 14.
39:39
We had a massive flood in Somerset and we have here a
39:44
company called Horizon 51 and they put drones across Somerset,
39:49
but it was purely photography. This is a different kind of
39:52
exercise they're using over Somerset.
39:54
And in my I believe it's, it's to normalise the use of drones
40:00
because as we know they're, they're, they're, they've,
40:03
they're priming the Somerset people for major flooding this
40:06
year. And a lot of that is to do with
40:08
the fact that they've, they've actually the Environment Agency
40:11
are not maintaining the reins and the ditches and the pumping
40:16
stations and the culverts. They've been told they haven't
40:18
got the money to do that and that we in Somerset have to get
40:22
used to the fact that we are going to flood and they've got.
40:25
Flood wardens and they've got lots of pamphlets they're
40:28
putting through doors about resilience, but all this could
40:30
be avoided if they were to actually maintain the means for
40:35
which it is built for it not to flood.
40:38
So unfortunately, I think this is an exercise in in getting us
40:42
used, you know, to, to all these drones in the sky.
40:45
So I'm going to look at the, the, the funding given to the,
40:51
to the, the future flight regional demonstration fund
40:55
comes from the governments innovation funding organization
40:58
Innovate. Um, and you know, the innovate
41:02
really is about inspiring innovation in the UK And, uh,
41:06
we'll just look at some of the, the things that they're actually
41:09
funding. Can we take, Yeah, the next
41:11
slide? Um, it's, you know, the future
41:14
of indoor farming and they've, they've got a thing here that's
41:19
all about, you know, the mindset of, of, of winning at war.
41:23
And then you've got, you've got apply for your funding.
41:26
So they, they will fund anyone who's got big innovation ideas.
41:30
Now, one of those companies is a company called Limacero and they
41:35
are a data collection company. They're a drone company.
41:38
Um, now they're called they're pioneering solar powered fixed
41:41
wing drones capable of flying long distances and uh.
41:45
There's a, there's also the, uh, Somerset based land and minerals
41:49
consulting company, which again, all of this is big money into
41:54
these, these, these companies and they're funded by, by all
41:58
sorts of stakeholders. And then one of the other
42:03
companies is the Southwest Future Flight Innovation Zone.
42:07
Now I've got a little bit, they are sort of they've got lots of
42:12
stakeholders and partners. Now they are based in Yeovil and
42:16
they, they're working alongside Leonardo, which was the, the,
42:20
the big helicopter factory, which used to be called Westland
42:24
in, in the West Country. So we have a video now of the
42:29
the future Aviation test zone, the heart of Southwest.
42:43
So the future aerospace test environment is a test and
42:47
demonstration zone for low carbon aviation in the heart of
42:51
the southwest of England. So in effect it is a living
42:55
laboratory for the aviation industry to develop low carbon
43:00
aircraft technology, for example from the electric fueled or
43:04
hydrogen fueled or maybe unmanned vehicles such as
43:08
drones. Key thing about the Southwest is
43:12
it's the second biggest aerospace cluster in Europe.
43:16
We have the capability of building whole aircraft with
43:20
Leonardo helicopters and we have a fantastic opportunity in terms
43:24
of design, manufacture, test and maintenance repair in the
43:29
Southwest. So as a region, we're actually
43:32
quite unique. I know I speak for all of the
43:34
employees here when we're very proud that we've got a very long
43:37
manufacturing history here, over 100 years.
43:40
And we're very proud that we consider ourselves the home of
43:42
British helicopters. And it's exciting for us
43:45
therefore, that we're sat here this morning in IRA, which we
43:48
very much see as the next chapter of that history for us.
43:52
So what we want to do here is allow this to be a free space, A
43:56
sandbox for creativity, to allow us to have all of those
44:00
different parties come together. In November 2021 at Centre Line
44:04
Bristol, we equipped our latest generation military helicopter,
44:07
the AW149, with a blend of sustainable aviation fuel.
44:11
The capability is now there and not only on the AW149 but across
44:16
the entire Leonardo helicopter fleet.
44:18
That's enabling our operators to make greener choices for future
44:21
flights. So the G7 Summit was held, was
44:25
held last year and we were able to support that operation down
44:28
in Newquay by having the Ospreys based here.
44:31
They were here for a week and they were supporting the US
44:34
President. So these are these are very,
44:41
very big, quite advanced drones they're using and developing in
44:46
Somerset. And I think this is an exercise
44:48
really, it's the perfect place to trial it all and get ready
44:52
for the the big drone roll out that Deloitte have in mind.
44:56
Now we have the Councillor Mike Rigby from Somerset Council's
45:01
lead and he's, he's, he's, he says the potential for drones is
45:06
exciting and shows that Somerset is the forefront of imaginative
45:09
and innovative, innovative solutions to real problems that
45:12
affect our communities. I'm delighted that Innovate UK
45:15
is showing faith in our county through this funding.
45:18
We've demonstrated clearly that Summitset can lead the way in
45:21
the future of flight with Iero. That's another company they're
45:24
using so that. He's also said Somerset suffered
45:28
devastating floods more than 10 years ago, leaving communities
45:31
maroon, homes underwater and farmland swamped.
45:34
The economic costs were up to 147.5 million, but the cost in
45:39
human terms were immeasurable. It's going to happen again, you
45:42
know, and, and it's, I think it's a deliberate flooding.
45:45
They also he. There was also a quote from
45:49
Aviation Minister Keir Keir Mather.
45:52
Now you'd be forgiven. I think we have a oh, sorry,
45:55
that's, that's that slide is just what I've said.
45:58
So it's just a, it's just a little text slide.
46:03
Yeah. We've got Kier Mather here now.
46:05
He is one of the youngest members of Parliament.
46:09
He you could be forgiven. I mean, that suit looks a little
46:11
bit big for him. He looks about 12, bless him,
46:14
but he's not. He's 20.
46:15
He was 25 when he won the Selby election and he is now the
46:21
Minister for Transport, so he also has he's a Minister for
46:24
Aviation as well. And umm.
46:27
He said investing in emerging technologies like drones and
46:30
unmanned aircraft is key to build a greener and more
46:33
efficient transport system. But this isn't just good news
46:36
for the environment. This tech will also save our
46:38
public sector and businesses valuable time in cash while
46:42
helping to boost skills and support for high quality jobs
46:45
across the country. And it's interesting.
46:49
Now I've, I've done a bit of a dive into Mather and he's
46:53
incredibly young to be a minister of, of transport.
46:58
And it looks as though that some of these young candidates are
47:01
groomed through the elite universities, think tanks and
47:03
lobbying circles rather than trade unions or local activism,
47:07
which is the way they used to get recruited.
47:10
They, you know, they're, they're kind of put on a trajectory, a
47:12
sort of rapid, rapid advancement due to ideological reliability
47:17
obviously in networking within the central party machine.
47:20
It's a shift in Labour's recruitment from grassroots sort
47:23
of messaging to technocratic management and messaging with
47:27
them, with them. It's kind of in line with the
47:31
post Blair professional politician model.
47:34
So as of September 2025, he's parliamentary Under Secretary of
47:38
State in the Department for Transport.
47:40
So he has all the, you know, he's going to be in charge of
47:42
all these drones over over the UK.
47:45
In that role, his responsibilities include
47:47
oversight of aviation, maritime affairs, decarbonisation,
47:51
electric vehicles, freight and borders.
47:54
And before this appointment, he served as an assistant whip in
47:56
the House of Commons. He was active in Labour students
48:00
and the Oxford University Labour Club.
48:03
But he also was a, he was, he worked with W Streeting before
48:09
he was elected. And so he's been very, very well
48:12
taught by West Streeting about what, what it's all about.
48:16
So that's, that's really what Mather seems to be about.
48:20
And he's so young. I'm, I, you know, you can see
48:23
that he's been absolutely put there for a purpose.
48:26
He'll probably be Prime Minister one day.
48:29
Sandy, thank you very much for that.
48:31
Really it's it's quite unpleasant to think of the skies
48:34
covered in drones, whatever else we have to put up with.
48:38
But of course, this is policy that's coming from somewhere.
48:41
So where does the policy come from?
48:43
What type of people are pushing the policy for all of the drone
48:47
technology, the AI technology, the transformational technology?
48:52
Well, of course, absolutely. At the top of the tree is Tony
48:55
Blair. Let's have a look at this little
48:57
clip where he's talking about AI coming into government.
49:01
We could have chosen another clip where he was talking about
49:04
transforming governments by new agenda, but this particular one
49:08
he's into AI. The world is just beginning a
49:14
revolution in the way in which identity is secured and trusted.
49:20
Identity is 2 things. It's a set of facts about you,
49:25
and it's the process of ensuring that you are the human being who
49:30
owns those facts. And in trusted wallets, we can
49:33
put trusted information, things like our passport, our driving
49:36
license, education information, employment information, health
49:40
information, to enable me to prove not just who I am, but
49:43
things about myself that enable me to instantly access services.
49:48
Imagine the ability to deliver money and aid in places where
49:52
they weren't able to do that fairly and equitably.
49:55
Those things are quite extraordinary.
49:57
I think the opportunity for the UK to adopt digital identity is
50:00
enormous. I think it can drive
50:03
efficiencies in government. If we can have digital identity
50:06
and financial services, it provides opportunity to provide
50:09
better customer experience, produce fraud, provide real
50:12
efficiency. I think there's opportunity in
50:14
the education system. I think there's opportunities in
50:17
travel. When the Internet was first
50:20
built, it wasn't built with an identity layer.
50:22
This is our new chance of getting it.
50:24
Right. Digital identity is essential.
50:30
We need government to get behind it, put the regulation in place
50:33
and to really drive the adoption of it and support the
50:36
development of digital identity in the UK.
50:42
Must apologise there. That wasn't the video with Tony
50:45
Blair. We will show that now, but just
50:47
to comment on the video that's just streamed, this is a video,
50:50
of course, telling you what's happening behind the scenes with
50:53
governments, particularly in relation to UK.
50:56
And note, we have an Australian banker, the lady talking about
51:01
what she thinks is best for UK. So we're now into the
51:04
transnational agenda. We're into bankers deciding
51:08
what's good for us and what's good for us is to transform
51:12
national government and to bring in AI because at the end of the
51:16
day, we're just stupid little people that can't manage
51:20
ourselves. So on top of that clip talking
51:23
about the wider transformational change, let's have a listen to
51:27
Tony Blair talking about AI. Great to see so many of you
51:34
here. Thank you for joining us decided
51:35
despite it being lunchtime. And thank you 2 for being here
51:39
today and such an exciting panel about how AI can make government
51:43
better. Now, you've both talked a lot
51:46
about the potential of AI and how it'll empower citizens and
51:50
make government more functional. Let's cut the buzzwords and the
51:55
jargon. I really want to know what this
51:58
actually means. Now, Mr. Blair, over to you.
52:03
How would you? How could AI make government
52:04
better? What does that mean?
52:06
How does AI make government better?
52:10
Because it allows you, number one, to transform the process of
52:14
government and #2 to transform public services for which
52:17
government's responsible. So no, it's absolutely
52:20
transformative. And look, I I am, I'm not an
52:24
expert on AI, But when I stand back and I look at what it's
52:28
doing, I think we're in the foothills of the most
52:31
transformative revolution since the Industrial revolution of the
52:35
19th century. And but concretely, how is it
52:39
going to change things? Well, for example, government's
52:41
all about process. So you can use AI to speed up
52:45
the processes of government. You could use it for everything
52:47
from making sure that you do, for example, all the routine
52:51
jobs of government much more efficiently.
52:54
You could be responding to people in a much more sensitive,
52:57
faster, better, more efficient way.
53:00
If, for example, you're able to merge data sets across
53:03
departments, you're going to save money.
53:05
You're going to better analyse, for example, your health data in
53:08
a way that allows you to make better health policy.
53:11
And then when you look at public services, you should be able to
53:13
personalize education in the future.
53:16
You, you're going to have AI tutors.
53:19
You you should have AI nurses, AI doctors, you're going to be
53:22
able we. Already do a lot of imaging
53:24
much, much better through using artificial intelligence.
53:29
Well, there's a Tony Blair waxing lyrical on the advantages
53:32
of of AIAI teachers, AI doctors, AI to make government better.
53:38
But of course, later on in the interview, he admits there's a
53:41
lot he doesn't know and he doesn't understand.
53:43
And he says to the other gentleman gentleman with him on
53:47
the stage, I'm sure you know more than I do.
53:49
But at the end of the day, Tony Blair is one of the key front
53:52
Enders backed by a huge amount of money that is pushing this
53:57
globe global AI agenda. So look, let's look at this next
54:01
clip of where Tony Blair has, has has interfaced with the
54:06
Prime Minister of Albania and what has resulted.
54:11
So this is Tony Blair working in Albania with the Prime Minister
54:16
of Albania. And what has transpired in the
54:20
Albanian parliament uproar? In Albania's parliament,
54:27
opposition politicians block the lectern, hurl papers and hurl
54:31
their disapproval, insulted that an artificial intelligence
54:34
should be appointed. To the cabinet, Prime Minister
54:37
Eddie Rama defended his decision.
54:41
Introducing artificial intelligence in the service of
54:44
good governance, anti corruption and accelerated socio economic
54:48
progress will be an unwavering priority for all the country's
54:51
ministries and agencies. It's a vitigenous promotion for
54:58
the AI called Diella earlier. This year she was rolled out on
55:01
a public service website as a virtual assistant.
55:04
Now she's a full blown government minister tasked with
55:07
making corruption free decisions on public tenders.
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The opposition accuses her of being unconstitutional since
55:13
she's not a real Albanian. It's true that I do not have
55:18
citizenship, but nor do I have any personal ambition or
55:22
interests. Well, there you are.
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This is the the sheer madness coming in and and it resulted in
55:31
paperwork being thrown in the Albanian parliament as that
55:35
parliament at least realises that what's happening by having
55:39
an AI minister is utter madness driven by Tony Blair who's been
55:45
working in the background. Let's have a look at the next
55:48
should we should have a new another clip on that?
55:50
I think maybe not OK, well, just on the explanation.
55:56
The key thing to remember is that clearly emerging countries
56:01
and particularly countries that have been very poor prior to the
56:04
arrival of the European Union on the scene are now absolutely
56:09
being targeted as AI test vehicles as a nation state to
56:14
bring this madness in. And Tony Blair, one of the key
56:18
figures in Albania going as far as helping the agenda to to
56:23
bring in an an AI robot. So just quite, quite
56:26
extraordinary. But this is reality, Sandy.
56:31
Let's bring you in at the end of the news today because many
56:34
people are listening to the very dark topics that we are forced
56:39
to report on as reality in the country.
56:42
But let's have a look at not only what's happening at the
56:46
local level, but what people can actually do to prevent it.
56:51
Yeah. I mean, we, we've got, we've got
56:54
to Keir Starmer's announcement and all the noise about
56:58
mandatory digital ID schemes. But actually, you know, and
57:02
there's a big March going on in London this coming week, not,
57:06
not this weekend, the following weekend, 18th.
57:09
And really this is not the way it's going to happen.
57:12
I mean, we've already got digital ID infrastructure here
57:17
now and it's operational and I don't think people fully
57:20
realise. They think we're going to be
57:21
given something that we can reject.
57:23
And I think that is a little bit of the trick that they think
57:27
that that that we don't understand.
57:30
So I'm just going to give you a, you know, a little bit of an
57:33
idea now. If we just look at the five
57:36
pillars of technocracy, you've got digital ID, track and trace,
57:40
surveillance, biometric monitoring, social credit
57:43
systems, central bank, digital currencies.
57:45
Well, the first three we've pretty much already got in
57:49
place. And I'm just going to explain
57:51
how, and people may know, may or may not know this, but it's that
57:55
whole thing that I, I would think after that March in, in
57:59
London on the 18th, that there will be almost like they will
58:03
probably say they'll stall it or stop it or something.
58:07
And we'll be lulled into thinking, oh, it's all OK.
58:10
But covertly it's continuing through the back door.
58:14
So I just want to just flag up a few of the, the bills that are
58:19
in place now that are, you know, that we are Co, you know,
58:24
quietly of, you know, kind of signing up to without really
58:28
understanding what, what, what we're doing.
58:31
Umm, and I don't want to sort of put anybody down, but this is
58:34
just to, uh, highlight it. So we've got the, uh, the data
58:38
use and access bill, which was put in place in 2025.
58:41
Umm, which is really, umm, it's a, you know, it's, it's there
58:46
and it's, it's operational and it gives birth to things like
58:50
the, the next one, the register of digital identity and
58:53
attribute services. So all this is rolling out
58:56
underneath the radar. And then you've got the, the
58:59
digital verification service that people have been talking
59:03
about where you have to verify your, your business.
59:06
So that is a form of digital ID and you've got the government
59:12
one login, which is coming where you, you, in order to get your
59:17
driving licence, your uh, or renew your driving licence or
59:21
your pensions, which is coming, you'll have to verify and all of
59:25
that is going in through and it will all end up in a digital
59:28
wallet. Now it, this is how they, they,
59:31
they, they want it to work. Now, people that, you know,
59:34
that, you know, in order to get your driving licence and things
59:37
like that, This is what people are signing up to, umm, without.
59:41
And you've got NHS apps, supermarket biometrics, QR
59:44
codes, cookies and apps and HMRC apps as well.
59:48
They're building the whole thing under the guise of efficiency
59:51
and convenience, not forcing it on you by getting you to opt in
59:55
voluntarily. And this isn't just the UK, It's
59:58
happening right across the EU and the Five Eyes countries.
1:00:01
Different flags, but the same playbook.
1:00:04
The real system's already here it.
1:00:06
It's not a thing that you get given or choose to reject or
1:00:10
whatever. Whitehall has quietly built
1:00:13
foundations of a national digital ID system.
1:00:17
So at the moment we. You know, the clever bit is that
1:00:21
the ministers keep saying there's no centralized database
1:00:24
and technically that's true for now.
1:00:27
Instead, it's what they call a Federated model, which means
1:00:30
certified providers, banks, employers, tech companies, all
1:00:33
verifying your identity through the government, government's
1:00:35
framework. So politicians can stand there
1:00:38
and say no, there isn't a national identity database while
1:00:41
still still helping to build one in all but name basically.
1:00:45
So every time you verify yourself for a job, a tenancy, a
1:00:49
phone contract, a benefit claim, your data's linked across these
1:00:53
systems and paper alternatives will remain, but they'll be made
1:00:58
deliberately slower and more expensive and inconvenient.
1:01:01
So over time everyone takes a digital route and once
1:01:04
everybody's doing it and that's, that's when it becomes the
1:01:07
default. The so-called voluntary system
1:01:10
is now effectively mandatory. So the beauty is.
1:01:15
Or rather, the danger of the system is that you'll never have
1:01:17
to say yes. You just have to take an easier
1:01:19
option. Take HMRC. 97% of people now
1:01:24
file their tax returns online because paper forms are awkward,
1:01:27
slow and discouraged. The same nudges are being built
1:01:30
into every public service and soon you'll need your one login
1:01:34
for for your pensions, your benefits or your healthcare.
1:01:37
You'll be asked to verify your identity with a certified
1:01:40
provider and that creates A credential that follows you
1:01:43
everywhere. So you'll think you've just
1:01:46
logged into your pension, but in reality you've just been on
1:01:48
boarded to a digital identity system.
1:01:51
That is the trick. So, and when the with government
1:01:54
wallet pops up, you know, would you like to save your
1:01:56
credentials for next time you click yes.
1:01:59
And now your government proofs are in, in, you know, they're
1:02:01
stored in one sort of place, one container.
1:02:04
So banks and employers already being integrated, landlords too,
1:02:09
especially for more housing gets followed up by corporate owners
1:02:11
like Black Rock and Lloyd's. So paper alternatives will
1:02:15
exist, but they will be slower, costlier and and that's what
1:02:19
they they're relying on. Now there's, there are ways
1:02:23
round this and this is how we can possibly push back.
1:02:28
Just, you know, avoid the centralised database for now.
1:02:31
This, you know, this, this is the way we do it.
1:02:34
We, we, we can, we can actually use the, the, the system against
1:02:39
them. Because what we can do is I can
1:02:42
put it, put it, put it up on what we can do is don't accept
1:02:46
cookies or apps on your phone. Better still, get rid of your
1:02:50
smartphone or severely limit its use.
1:02:52
Be awkward. Insist on paper documents.
1:02:55
You can do this because the government has made provisions
1:02:58
for those people who don't have access to technology.
1:03:01
Millions of pensioners. We can use this and fill in
1:03:06
forms at the post office. Verify through your accountant.
1:03:09
For instance, like a lot of people who thought they'd have
1:03:11
to verify through the digital app thing, the digital
1:03:16
verification system, they, you can actually do it with your
1:03:20
accountant and your passport and any other ID you have.
1:03:25
So we just, you just have to be awkward and, and do it, you
1:03:28
know, act dumb. And the, The thing is that the
1:03:31
Equality Act is there to support this.
1:03:35
They've made the government have made provisions to people who
1:03:38
don't have access to technology and who can't use the technology
1:03:42
and just act dumb and say I can't use this.
1:03:44
And there's always an option. It's called find, find another
1:03:48
way. And you click on that and there
1:03:49
is a way out of it. I did it with my driving
1:03:51
licence. I, I didn't go through their
1:03:53
system, I did it through the post office and my passport.
1:03:56
So if we have enough people doing this, it will delay and
1:04:00
frustrate the whole system. And I think if we can just be
1:04:04
awkward just, and I know it's awful, but it's about, it's
1:04:09
about ditching these for a bit. Ditch them or don't use them or
1:04:13
don't use these for doing, for doing anything online for
1:04:17
verification. OK, over to you, Brian.
1:04:22
Sandy, thank you very much for that.
1:04:23
And significantly you've ended up your segment there of how to
1:04:27
challenge the system with a smile on your face.
1:04:30
And this is the beauty of it that what what you're suggesting
1:04:33
people can do. There are there's facility for
1:04:37
it within the government's own system.
1:04:40
You don't have to go down the the AI digitised route.
1:04:44
You can challenge it, but maybe you've got to look for that
1:04:48
alternative route. And while you're taking this
1:04:53
route of protest, you can also be a perfectly happy, smiley,
1:04:57
reasonable person. If you're engaging with a member
1:05:00
of the government staff. That's another huge tick in the
1:05:03
book, in the box. But the key point is that if a
1:05:06
million people are protesting, yes, that brings people
1:05:10
together. But your point is that what we
1:05:12
really need is for the million people to then go away and take
1:05:17
that protest everywhere they can, and particularly when
1:05:21
they're interfacing with these new controlling government
1:05:25
systems. So I think this is really
1:05:27
excellent advice. And yes, on many occasions we
1:05:30
don't need a smartphone. We could simply have a a push
1:05:34
and old fashioned push button phone.
1:05:37
And that stops a lot of the interaction.
1:05:39
With the government dead in its tracks.
1:05:43
We must leave it. There a lot happening in the
1:05:45
world. You always feel better about
1:05:47
yourself if you're actually challenging it.
1:05:50
So action conquers fear. Don't get dragged into the pure
1:05:54
darkness of what's happening. Do something and you will feel
1:05:57
better. And of course, stay watching the
1:05:59
UK column. We're going to bring you as much
1:06:02
information as we can as to this draconian one world government
1:06:07
system that's coming into place. We must end there.
1:06:11
Sandy, thank you very much for joining me.
1:06:13
Ben, thank you for being here in the studio.
1:06:15
Huge thank you to all our audience, wherever you are in
1:06:18
the world. If you're AUK column member,
1:06:21
stay with us because we'll be back into UK column extra in
1:06:26
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1:06:30
forward to seeing you at 1:00 on Wednesday.
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See you then. Bye bye.