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INTERVIEW: Mario Talks Growth, Going Song For Song With Ray J, Interracial Relationship, New Album + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a weak click your ass up the Breakfast
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  Speaker 1: Club finish for y'all done morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is d J n V, Jess, Hilary, Charlamagne, the
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  Speaker 2: guy we are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Law Ros is here as well.
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  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 1: What's that? What's that? How you feeling? How you doing
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  Speaker 1: that right now? Yeah? I'm good, bro, I'm good. Back
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: on the roll back on tour. Yeah, on tour right now,
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Moose Wings. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: The new ep out on tour, it's been amazing. I
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  Speaker 2: won't say you're going to start right now. You shook
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: that man saying that.
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  Speaker 1: In front of you the other day front But he
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  Speaker 1: said what he said, Jess, that can beat him universe. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you know he had that. You know he
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: had to be on music.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't talking about singing. I'm not talking about like this.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about singing vocally, Yes, music anything.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: They lost his mind.
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  Speaker 3: You ain't let him on that stage was gonna have And.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said I didn't let him on stand wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do right not there.
• 1:06
  Speaker 4: You can ask ray Je what happened backstage? I was like, Yo,
• 1:10
  Speaker 4: let's do it. Let's make it happen. He was like, nigga,
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  Speaker 4: shrink me, just just I don't care what you do,
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  Speaker 4: just don't just just make it happen. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't even know he was gonna be there bad I
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  Speaker 4: got you. They didn't let him on stage.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't me.
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  Speaker 3: That's not story, Reje story was. I wanted to do
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  Speaker 3: the verses right then, Tomorrio.
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  Speaker 1: Out of all people, you trust Rede's.
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  Speaker 5: Story, you trust reggae story people.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know what was happening back there, like it
• 1:38
  Speaker 4: was a plan, and then it did happen, So you
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  Speaker 4: know what, you know each other again.
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: I know why they keep sleeping on you, why they
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: keep sleeping on me, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Vocally, hold on, you said, hold on? We got did?
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  Speaker 1: He said what he said? Three and the possible.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you can fuck with.
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  Speaker 6: You crazy about ten six?
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's kind of crazy, bro.
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  Speaker 3: But by the one though, he said one song for
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  Speaker 3: one song, and he said new music because he can only.
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  Speaker 2: Do run songs that really like really like people be like,
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  Speaker 2: that's a strong because versus you got it's like it
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  Speaker 2: gotta be strong.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta have some strong it's not you know that,
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  Speaker 4: it's not a joke. If you're going with the right
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  Speaker 4: you're going against the right person. You gotta have strong records.
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  Speaker 4: People people you don't know how they're gonna be feeling
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  Speaker 4: that day. They might want the song one day. One
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  Speaker 4: day it might be like that's better what people aren't consistent, But.
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  Speaker 3: You can do one of those three times because technically
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  Speaker 3: definitely good.
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  Speaker 1: But he only got one wish.
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  Speaker 3: And then but you can do it three times and
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  Speaker 3: then you no for sure he got something he got
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  Speaker 3: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, he got a.
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  Speaker 4: Couple of records, bro, Bro, and then what but like
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  Speaker 4: they're not timeless, classic records that make you feel like
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  Speaker 4: it's just a different Just stop taking me out of
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  Speaker 4: these conversations, bro. Honestly, I gotta.
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  Speaker 1: Stop taking out of these conversations. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I get passionate and about it and I love all
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  Speaker 4: my piers. Like you know what I'm saying. The internet
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  Speaker 4: shit is the Internet shit? Like whatever, But like y'all
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  Speaker 4: got to put me in different conversations.
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  Speaker 1: But I get I get that, you know.
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  Speaker 4: During my hiatus, like I've had to prove, like remind
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  Speaker 4: people that yo, like I really God put me in
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  Speaker 4: this because the gift is really there. My persistence and
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  Speaker 4: my ability to continue to push and continue to put
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  Speaker 4: out music is still there.
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  Speaker 1: My passion is still there. I'm still hungry, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I take it serious, you know, but I think some
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  Speaker 4: people are like Internet, have fun on the Internet, and
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  Speaker 4: then some people really take it serious.
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of those that take I think people forget
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  Speaker 2: because of your hiatus, right, And the reason I say
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  Speaker 2: that because I forgot and we went on to that
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  Speaker 2: and shit, we went on like an R and B
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  Speaker 2: tool and I DJ for Mario doing that tool. Fact,
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  Speaker 2: and when you understand when we're playing six songs in
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  Speaker 2: those deck, fifteen thousand, arena is singing them six songs.
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  Speaker 4: Only because we only got fifteen minutes. We would play
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  Speaker 4: more music, but yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: But the six songs, you understand, it's like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: get it there, and that's what.
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  Speaker 1: You said it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like the other day when he was playing, I'm like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I forgot that. Oh yeah, I did forget that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, now it happens. I think it's natural, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I saw your interview with Mike the other day.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, it was a great interview because
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  Speaker 4: he made some good points about people forget you know,
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  Speaker 4: you got to remind people.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that it's just the way of the Internet.
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  Speaker 4: As well as just like this this new world of
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  Speaker 4: like everybody's receiving stuff so fast, and it's like, if
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  Speaker 4: you don't put music out for six months, nigga, you
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  Speaker 4: where you've been at, you know what I'm saying. But
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  Speaker 4: for us as artists, a six months, that's that's a
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  Speaker 4: small campaign. It might take, especially in R and B,
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  Speaker 4: it might take six months for people to even though
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  Speaker 4: you got a joint, that's that's heating up, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But that's just a part of the process you've been against.
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  Speaker 3: You were a teenager. What's something the grown version that
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  Speaker 3: you had to unlearned from the young version of you?
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  Speaker 4: A lot of things, bro, But I would start with,
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  Speaker 4: you know, not falling in love with my creation, meaning
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  Speaker 4: you know, when you when you create music and you
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  Speaker 4: put it out the world, you gotta let it go.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: You got to let the people that connect with the
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  Speaker 4: music and connect with what you're doing connect with it,
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  Speaker 4: and you got to keep creating, like keep creating. Don't
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  Speaker 4: pigeonhole yourself to oh you got to make another hit
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  Speaker 4: like let Me Love You, you gotta make it. It's really just
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  Speaker 4: about evolving, bro, because there's so many other things that
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  Speaker 4: happening in life as to why the music sound the
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  Speaker 4: way it does now. Right, mood Swings is a completely
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  Speaker 4: different vibe from Glad You Can, which I released just
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  Speaker 4: a year ago, completely different energy, work with completely different people.
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  Speaker 4: My my creativity is in a different place. So really
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  Speaker 4: just being free in the creative process because we're in
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  Speaker 4: a world now where it's about exploring. I was talking
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  Speaker 4: to one unexact yesterday and we were talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 4: how different the game is even for labels, Like labels
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  Speaker 4: now have to play a different game. If they're not
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  Speaker 4: in the game of having a movie sinks their songs,
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  Speaker 4: sing the movie that songs, you know, as many places
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  Speaker 4: as possible that they own, they're not going to have
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  Speaker 4: the lion share sometimes, you know, so it's like you
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  Speaker 4: have to tech even like, you know, investing in different things.
• 6:01
  Speaker 4: Even though Doctor Dredam they already did that, right. They
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: was like, Yo, we want to show you all how
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  Speaker 4: to get this music money, but we want show you
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  Speaker 4: how to also have some headphones and some speakers, and
• 6:09
  Speaker 4: so it's just about being as versa though mentally as
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  Speaker 4: possible so that all these other opportunities can attract you.
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  Speaker 7: That's where I'm at now, are you like picking up
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  Speaker 7: the phone and calling where you're going through the process
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  Speaker 7: of like I gotta re remind people or I'm trying
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  Speaker 7: to make this sound different than that and not chase
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  Speaker 7: that record. But ego wise, like there has to be
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  Speaker 7: a part of Mario that's like this has to be
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  Speaker 7: big because I'm Mario, Like, who coaches you through those battles?
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  Speaker 1: Coaches me? Just a god?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly God, I'm gonna be honest with you because you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people that's around me every day,
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  Speaker 4: they just believe in me. You know, they're they're they're
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  Speaker 4: believe they get they tell me real shit, but they
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  Speaker 4: believe in me, and it's like they understand how strong
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  Speaker 4: I am mentally.
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  Speaker 1: But that's no person that I.
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  Speaker 4: Call to act advice about those types of things, because
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  Speaker 4: I think that my journey is my journey and I
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  Speaker 4: just have to trust God and I gotta trust the
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  Speaker 4: people that I entrust creatively, Right, So when I went
• 7:02
  Speaker 4: to the studio to start mood Swings. Me and my
• 7:04
  Speaker 4: boy Dre Moon, who I met through one of my managers,
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  Speaker 4: ak with three six five. We've been on each other
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  Speaker 4: for years, Like he did a bunch of future records,
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  Speaker 4: but he never hopped into his R and B back,
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  Speaker 4: but he's always wanted to. I say, Yo, let's less
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  Speaker 4: less like, I want to hop into this darker, moodier
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  Speaker 4: part of me as an R and B artist that's
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  Speaker 4: like moody and still musical and R and B, but
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  Speaker 4: just like more authentic. And so he was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 4: let's get in a studio, let's go, and it was
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  Speaker 4: it was like working with a friend. Is somebody that
• 7:31
  Speaker 4: you go over their house, they come over your house.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they kids, you know they family, but y'are
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  Speaker 4: both really young ghosts. It's different than working with somebody
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  Speaker 4: that's like, I'm a fan of your music. I've always
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  Speaker 4: want to work with you, but I don't know where
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  Speaker 4: you live, I don't know you know what you're into us.
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  Speaker 1: It's a different thing.
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  Speaker 4: Found the foundation is there, so that to me and
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  Speaker 4: I trust the team that I work with and we
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  Speaker 4: just make the music that we love.
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  Speaker 1: We going to studio.
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  Speaker 4: We might go in a studio and play verses with ourselves,
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  Speaker 4: like yo, you play your favorite five records ever, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna play mine against yours and that inspires to
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  Speaker 4: get the studio session started.
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  Speaker 3: But you won't do that though.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to. They don't want no smoke with me
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  Speaker 1: on any level. And he knows that's why he got
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: to always you know, he's a major troller.
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  Speaker 4: Though it's like, how do you how do you how
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  Speaker 4: do you execute a major troller?
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  Speaker 1: Even if you execute him, he gonna come back from
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  Speaker 1: the dead undertake not take it personal? What did you
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  Speaker 1: realize that?
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  Speaker 4: And not take a personal real nigga ship, because it's
• 8:29
  Speaker 4: different from like and I had other people that like
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  Speaker 4: hit me.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: I really got on some really some sissy ship.
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: But like ray J, like like we we talk, you
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  Speaker 4: feel me. So it's like he can say some wild
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  Speaker 4: ship and I might say some wild ship the next day.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like he's a.
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  Speaker 4: Major troller, so he gonna go deep in the quicksand
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  Speaker 4: whereas I got the ship.
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  Speaker 1: Go on, I'm on tour right now.
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Ain't gonna go that deep
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  Speaker 4: in the quicksand but yeah, that's whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Mario was mad too. He was pissed off. It is
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: like he was, you know, it's crazy. Can I be honest? Yes? No, no, no.
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: For the honesty is that all we were doing is
• 9:06
  Speaker 4: have a conversation about things y'all have, but nobody don't
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  Speaker 4: really talk about it all the way. We're just having
• 9:12
  Speaker 4: a conversation the same ship everybody do. People in the
• 9:15
  Speaker 4: comments actually went crazy on everybody else.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: Spoke about or answer the question about. Then I did,
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: like you giving niggas too much grades and it's like, damn,
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: is it that serious? Why is it that serious?
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  Speaker 3: Because you're an artist that can actually and I'm sure
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: they looked at like that Mario dope and ship, but
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: he don't feel the same way.
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: That's crazy, Like everybody got strengths and weaknesses, like if somebody,
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: if somebody can dance, they ass off and they asked
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: somebody question like yo, who the who out of these
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: people gonna ask who can dance and who can't? Let's
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: just say always on that he was like, yo, can
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: Mario danced? He was like miss I would laugh, I
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: would laugh.
• 9:54
  Speaker 5: I would be like he right, because I don't because
• 9:59
  Speaker 5: that's the But they know him for dancing, right, they
• 10:02
  Speaker 5: know that's his craft, right, So that's.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just niggas take shit too serious. Bro.
• 10:07
  Speaker 7: So y'all haven't spoken since he said he's not gonna
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  Speaker 7: do no more songs with you or any collapse with you.
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: I seen him at the Ebony event and we were
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: sitting at the same table.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what. I was literally right next to y'all.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what he did when when it
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: was recording.
• 10:20
  Speaker 6: All that so the time, so okay.
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  Speaker 1: One after that, idn't see him after that anything him? Yeah, okay,
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, he's saying nothing to me about.
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  Speaker 6: It, that's right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If I really feel.
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  Speaker 4: Some type of listen everything I love, If I really
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: feel some type of way about something, somebody said, I'm
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: gonna pull him to the side something I might not
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: say that front everybody. I'm gonna figure out a way
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  Speaker 4: to get it off my chest.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I had no idea he felt some
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: type of way about about that. You know what I'm saying.
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: I've had days where I've been hitting miss Nigga on stage.
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  Speaker 4: I don't always hit every note the same every night.
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  Speaker 1: Like, Nigga, let's be real. We gotta be real. I
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: have fun and like not take it too serious.
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  Speaker 4: Bro, Listen, we were young black, We are opportunity.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: We still hear bro twenty four years later, like we
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  Speaker 1: still here is a blessing.
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  Speaker 3: But what do you feel?
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 8: Mark mood swings, right, so you up and down on that.
• 11:10
  Speaker 8: This is like move love angry.
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: It's a mixture of like love, you know, It's really
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: a conversation. It's a conversation. When I started mood Swings,
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: it was just about nineties R and B vibes. And
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: when I think of the word mood swings, I think
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: of nineties R and B. I think about two thousands
• 11:31
  Speaker 4: of R and B and I'm like, Yo, how do
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: we take that feeling and like update it? And this
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: was like the approach And then I would have like
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: a couple of Dre Morning.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: Executive produced it. We're with a lot of great producers
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: are here. But yeah, the.
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: Conversations are different. And also the textures of what I
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: singing is different. Like I got a song called fortune
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  Speaker 4: Cookie in there that I've never spoken like this before.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: But the actual texture of the.
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: Way I'm using my voice a song called moan same way,
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  Speaker 4: I'm giving you different moves of who I am as
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: an R and B artist, How I think about intimacy,
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  Speaker 4: how I think about love, and just you know, just
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: talking my shit.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, fortune cookie damn man.
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: With Asian women, that's crazy. It wasn't an Asian woman.
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: It's just it's just women in general. I think women
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: are like fortune cookies, bro. Like, you know, it's like
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: you never know what you're gonna get if you really
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: dive in and really get to know a woman on
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: those more intimate levels, you know. And it's something that
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: I've always prided myself phon won't getting to know somebody.
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: I'm in a relationship now, and I'm still learning my girl.
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: I'm still learning like how to unlock certain parts of
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: her and and you know, how to make her feel
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: safe in moments where I'm not around, and like, just
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: so many elements to having a relationship with a woman,
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: whether you're just a friend or whether you're in something
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: deep like I am. It's just you never know what
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: you're gonna get. You gotta crack the open. A fortune cookie, obviously,
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: record goes a little deeper into something like that more
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: intimate shit, but like, yeah.
• 12:55
  Speaker 7: How did your girlfriend deal with all of the like
• 12:58
  Speaker 7: being Mario's girlfriend? Everything it's public, Like when you post
• 13:01
  Speaker 7: to her, there's like such a big response because they're like,
• 13:04
  Speaker 7: she's not a black woman, Like how does she deal
• 13:05
  Speaker 7: with seeing stuff like that?
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  Speaker 1: I think that she she's a very.
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: Like analytical person like me, Like she dives into things
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: to understand the psychology behind it and like like what's
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: the what what does it really mean? She understood to
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: a certain degree, but she's also human, you know. So
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: we've had conversations.
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  Speaker 1: She's like I clap back at people.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: Before she clapp back at a couple of people, I'm like, yo,
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: just don't don't even don't let it, you know. And
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: then once that first initition would happened, she was like, oh, okay,
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: I get enough. And I told her, you know, it's
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: it's one of those things where people until they understand
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: that you got something real, people hate you before they
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: love you, you know what I'm saying sometimes and that
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: and that they don't even have to know you, right,
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: but then there's a lot of support I don't want.
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  Speaker 4: And I think sometimes the Internet, like the dark and
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: the ugly shit get more highlighted than the love. Right
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: even with me, sometimes I see all these love you know,
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: I love what you're doing. We know you love black women,
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  Speaker 4: we know you're and then at one or.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Two that's like dark, You're like you know what I'm saying, And.
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: That's just human nature, right, So we just work and
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: do it together. It's my first like real public relationship
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: in this way, whereas though, like the picture, we were
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: going on vacation for my birthday and we had took
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: some pictures that she posted a picture of her pregnant
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: on her page before I did.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: But her page is probably like babe, nobody's gonna say.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: I'm like, babe, I'm go ahead right.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Next thing, you know is you know.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: So I was trying to tell her like you know,
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: but I was I'm not ashamed of it. So it's like, yo,
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: go ahead and do your thing. And so it was beautiful,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: Like I'm really proud that I'm able to say, out
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: of all the men in my family, especially on my
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: mom's side, like that I can give my son something
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: that I didn't have.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: You know, when he touches, when he.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: Incarnates on his planet, he's going to have a different
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: life than I had. I'm proud of that, you know,
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: and the growing pains of being an artist who's now
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: more open with his life.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I should have did this seven years ago, ten years ago,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: but now I'm being more open. So this is the
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: part is the part of it. You got to go
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: through it. I'm ready. Come onratulations, do you hold real quick? Girl?
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: I want to give you your flowers. I'm so proud
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: of you, Jess. I'm so proud of you. Know where
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: we come from. You know, you're raising a young king,
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: you got another baby that you just had, You're married
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: now get married now like you're doing your thing, and
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I'm proud of you.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I love you and I'm
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: proud of you. You know what I'm saying. I just
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: wanted to say that, Yeah, for sure.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Do you what do you feel Mario the man has
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: grown the most compared to Mario the Artist.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: That's a great question. Thank you. I think that I've
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: been able to.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Shadow working myself on a more honest and authentic level
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: than I have before, because not just because I'm about
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: to be a father, but because I see I see
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the world around me changing in ways that I'm like.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: When things get out.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Of control if you can't always control how your environment
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: is going to what's going to happen in the environments
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: around you. Because when you're an artist, things happen around you.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: You have to be exposure. If you want to have success,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: you got to be out here, right, And so it's
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: really important for me to have controling myself on a
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: deeper level and control of my emotions and control of
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: my how I view the world, how I view people,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: how I view my relationships with people, getting better at
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: relationship building because I wasn't good at that as a
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: young kid and as a young adult, and so just
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: really doing that shadow work, bro, and also becoming a
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: better friend to people that I consider important in my
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: life instead of being like closed off or being like, okay,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I can't trust nobody, like I'm not opening up to,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: like having a little bit more grace and understanding that, Bro.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: With greatness comes the opportunity for leadership. And with the
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: opportunity for leadership, you're able to actually see the world
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: from a different space when you take on that role
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: of being vulnerable and being a leader, which means coming
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: up with solutions, right, and it could be anything that
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: could be in work, it could be in your personal life,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: it could be for your family, it could be for free.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: And I think that that's something that God blessed me
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: with experiences to get through so that I can help
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: people come up with solutions, you know. And it could
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: be small things, Bro.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Somebody could call me one day and be like, Yo,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going through this. You know what I'm saying.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I just made my first you know, twenty thousand dollars, Bro,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: my first time, Like, well, how should I woo woo?
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: It's like those small things. I fucked up money before
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I know how to.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: I could give you advice on that. If I can't
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: give you advice on something, I know somebody who can.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Just being more open and vulnerable about life, man, and
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: knowing that everybody's not out to hurt you, you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: and that comes from growth and doing shadow work.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: When you first did your shadow work, did your shadow
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: self scae.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: It scared me when I felt like.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: People weren't respecting the work that I was doing myself,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: and that triggered me.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: It was like, what the fuck is the purpose of
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: doing it?
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: If nobody cares and they still gonna judge you, they
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: still and it realized, like, yo, bro, it doesn't matter
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: if people don't see.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: The work that you're doing. You can't change their perspective.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: You can't change how people see things because they can
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: only understand things on the level that they're experiencing.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Right. I was reading this book called the.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Author's name is called Power Versus Force if you wear that,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: But it's really good, and it basically talks about life
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: by way of calibration. Like it's from zero to six hundred, right,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: so you can have a conversation with your homie about
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: running down on somebody that might be calibrated at like
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: a ten or twenty. But then you can have a
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: conversation about growth and health and building community building, and
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: that's calibrated at like a four to fifty five hundred.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: And it just talks about how these things affect your body,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: how to affect your mind. And I got it from
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: this chiropractor. But he doesn't do regular chiropractor work. He
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: does like spiritual chiropractic work. Whereas though he finds where
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: your traumas are, you know, where you're lying to.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yourself, where you're not being honest.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: When the first time I worked with him, he brought
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: me he does it like in his backyard. He lives
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: in la And then he was like, he said, hold
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: both your arms out. He's like, I'm gonna ask you
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: a question, and you could choose to tell me the
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: truth or tell.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Me a lie.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: The one where I lied on him, my arm got weak,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: like literally didn't mind bushit.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: It was like if it was like and I knew
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I was lying.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And then the one where I told the truth, it
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: was like my arm was steady, it was strong, and
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: I was like, damn, that's crazy. You don't think that
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: like your body and your mind and how everything worked,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Like the truth, even if it's ugly, it's more powerful
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: than a lot. And I mean, you could take that
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: in so many different ways. But I would like to
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: think that I want to live in a in a
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: space where I can live as much truth as possible
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: and the lies aren't as that I tell myself.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I don't know. All
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of that stuff is just a part of my journey.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: You talked about the try it. You get that better
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: than I do. We talked about the hiatus. For most
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that don't know.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: During that time, which is a long time, what was
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Mariel doing during that time.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I was exploring. I was exploring so many things in life,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: like just really trying to understand what it was all,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: what the purpose was.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: You know, what's the purpose of relationships, what's the purpose
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: of family, What's the purpose of me being an artist?
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: What's the purpose of it? Or why am I here?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: You know? What is religion? What is all these things?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: You know? What is fear? What is trauma?
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: What is you know, why do people choose addiction over
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: going to get help and really fighting through it?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Because it's such a strong like it's such a strong intention.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Like when people are addicted to something, like they will
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: go through anything to get that fix. You know, how
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: do you transmit that into something towards something you want
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: to build for yourself in life?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: How do you transmit that to your family and love
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: all life?
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: So it really just started studying understanding like human behavior
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: right now. I started there and like, you know, wanted
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: to understand, you know, what was hell, what is heaven?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: You know? What is all of this?
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Because I got thrown in at such a young age
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that I wasn't able to process the death of my grandmother.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I wasn't able to process being an adopted I wasn't
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: able to process now you're an artist, Now you're moving around,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: now you're in this world. I wasn't able to process
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: that and enjoy the process. Like maybe a lot of
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: other younger artists. I don't know their process, but sometimes
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: they look happier, right, So I think that at that
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: time of like, after let Me Love You, after going
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: on tour, Destiny's Shout, after all these things, it was like, bro,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I moved back home and then I went through another
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: dark moment and I was.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I gotta get out of here. Left.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: That's when my process of like getting through everything started,
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: like processing it, putting it all on the table, being confused,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: being hurt, being in the dark, not having nobody around me,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and it just brought me closer to myself and brought
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: me closer to God. And that's what I started to
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: realize that life and cycles and time and space and
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: all of it is, it's all happening all at once, right,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: and you know you really just got to like pull everything,
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: pull all the fragments back in, and then.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Balance it out, release what you like, releasing truly releasing it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: For me, It was a twenty six day fast where
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I released so much, you know, man, I cried on nights.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I had cold sweats on nights. I was seeing things,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: hearing things.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I was really like traveling through these different portals of
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: everything that I've been hiding from. And that's what kind
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: of brought me back. And after that, so I have
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: met this doctor named Dhodi and Calli and him made
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: these organ cleansing tablets and I was taking those and
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I was doing it during this time. It was a
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: popular fast, but most people were doing it for like.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Three to five days. I did it for twenty six days.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Cayenne, you know, honey, lemon? Uh?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: What else?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Ginger?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: And yeah, it was a lot back, but I took
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: it forther. I was like, yo, once I got to
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: like my second my first week, I was like, nah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: this is I feel too.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: The first week, after the first five days, those the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: next two days you feel great. Then you feel like
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: shit for like three days. Then you feel empty.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Now your your skin is tingling and you're you're hearing
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: like things that the highest capacity, and you're the light.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: You could see things clear, like it's just everything. I
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't sleep.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I was only sleep for like three hours before I
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: couldn't sleep, len and I have so much energy, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: so then I was like, okay, who's the person?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Like what how does food affect you?
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Then I started studying what I was feeling. I was like,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: how does food affect your mind? How does food affect
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: your energy? How does it affect your sleep? And I
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: was realizing like, damn, we overeat in this country, and
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: like I'm like, yo, we really we eat emotionally. We
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: eat when we feel, you know, out of a breakup,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: We eat when we horny and we don't get none.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: We eat like you know, so consumption right, And so
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: then I started really diving into like why physical, mental,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: and spiritual consumption all.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Leads to your decisions, all leads to.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: What you're attracting your life, how you attract things, and
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: it affects everything in your life. So I went down
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: that road for years of just like being becoming a
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: mystic and studying different things and not being afraid to
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: be judged by people. During that time, if you were
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: practicing and working with crystals, I was doing this in
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: two thousand and eleven twelve when it wasn't cool, you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: And I just wasn't talking about it. I didn't share
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: it because my journey was different. And yeah, So I
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: did that for years, bro, and then I decided I'm like, okay,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I'm ready to start making music again. Like I think
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I'm ready to start. And the first record I released
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: out of that, I think was Somebody Else with Nikki
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: that is my yeah shit, yeah it was like that
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: one in fatal distraction. Fatal Yeah, fatal distraction.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes so much sense because the shadow work
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: gives you greater self awareness because it helps you understand
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of your blind spots that you might not
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: even have been aware of.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Man, it's a real thing.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: It's so true, bro, And it's like you gotta it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: almost like you gotta forgive yourself because you Sometimes we
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: can do the work, but then we still haven't really
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: forgiven ourselves. We still haven't really been like, Yo, tell
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: your younger self, I love you. Forget you know, forgive
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: yourself for the people that may have hurt you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I'm still working through it, bro. They don't stop, Bro,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you don't.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: The truth is it never stops because we live in
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: a space where we're constantly reminded of our past.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: That's the first thing that came to mom when I
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: heard you talk about all this work you were doing,
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: because I watched you on Camp's podcast Monkey Friday. Yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: and hearing you talk about a lot of things I
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: didn't know it, like your mom and your adoption, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: like you never had the time to kind of make
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: amends with all that stuff because you were famous at fourteen. Yes,
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: So what was Mario saying to or I guess twelve
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: eleven year old Mario during the time where you got
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: away from everybody, like dealing with your youngest self.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: I didn't know how to speak to my youngest stelf then,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: So I wasn't really speaking to my younger self at
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I was more so.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Processing what I was trying to understand and like doing
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: the work of at least getting to a point where
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I could actually look at it and see it from
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: a different perspective in terms of like the science of
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: it and the actual work of it, Like why do
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I make these decision? Why do people make the decisions?
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Where am I lacking at for me not to be
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: able to be happy today? What is this thing I'm
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: holding on to right? So I had to work through
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: that first. I think that talking to my younger self,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: it's gonna happen more.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Even when my son is here right being able to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: understand give him the thing.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna help my I'm not like putting
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: it on him to help me, but I think being
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: a dad will also help me work through my younger
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: my issues with my younger self.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: If that makes sense.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: That makes all in the world. Man, It's it's like, man, God,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: it's so amazing because you've done the work. You're doing
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the work. But God didn't even allow you to have
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: your first child until you was a much more healed,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: clear version of yourself. Man, that's crazy.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Bro's eye consciously obviously, just like I didn't want a
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: child yet and I did certain things to make sure
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: I didn't have a joy yet.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: But what you're saying is so true.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: And you know it's one day story can the plot
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: th can's there, But like that's one of the things
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: me and.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: My girl talk about all the time. Was like, yo,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like I knew I loved her, and I knew I
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: felt safer. I knew we knew each other for a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: long time. We knew a lot of things about each other.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: But it was all God when it came to her
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: actually conceiving like it was all God, bro. And it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: like I feel this energy already, like we both pray,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: pray about our lives. It's amazing, Bro, it's amazing. I'm
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: excited about it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: How is healing shape? The man you are to.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Gave me more confidence.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: It gave me more confidence being an artist that you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: took time away and making a resurgence doing this digital crusade.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: You know, gave me so much confidence on who I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: am as a person.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think that there's anything that could happen and
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: these phones are online that could change or make me
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: want to be anything other than myself and have my
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: found day. Shouldn't be strong for the things that really matter.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: And I think that that is why God put me
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: through all of these different obstacles, is there's there's a
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: bigger column on my life that I'm tapping into that's
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: so multi dimensional in terms of like even the things
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: that I'm into now and the things that I'm attracting
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: and the people, for example, you know, investing in Redemption Bank,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: who is.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Which was founded by.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Britanic's king and Ashley Bell and they're great people who
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: have a great vision for our community. But just you know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: financial literacy in general. I've been learning so much and
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: just really wanting to be a part of changing the
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: narrative for us, you know, as you know, there's so
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: much work to be done. You know, you've been in
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: a room with a lot of people who understand what
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: needs to be done, and so just wanted to be
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: a part of something bigger. So God's been preparing me
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: for that, right, So that's what I'm saying. When we
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: had these conversations about music, I'm like, Yo, it's it's.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: So funny because my day to day life is naught.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: It's so far from that in terms of the conversation
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: that people I talked to.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: But I get it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: It's just that we haven't fun whatever whatever. But yeah,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: it's a it's a lot of work, and I think
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: God's just been preparing me for it all.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah hm hmmm, So look yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: You're going to add a comedy component.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yo, Listen, we could put something together.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And I know it was talking about during it during
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: the pandemic, you were talking about some stuff.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: And you had a great idea and I wish I
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: would have like hone in on it, like I wish
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: I would have jumped on it. You had an idea
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: to do, like I think it was like comedy virtually
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: like where.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: People because it was something Yeah, yeah, I thought.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: It was so smart. And then I see somebody else
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: doing I'm like, damn you, Mario, put me try to
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: put me on to that like five years ago.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Good listen, just you naturally listen, like Mike was saying,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: like it's some people who wake.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Up and just funny. Bro. Like you different, Yes, you're different.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, days like having fucked
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: up days and all your page it come on and
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: that's just changed.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: My whole ship.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Like you different, like you're you're literally one of I
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: think you're one of the young goats. Like you know
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like keep doing that ship, like I
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: know you hustling it, but like tap in, like you
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: really wanted them for real.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Like you, I think about all the people who had
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: good days and you clown them and.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Think that it's a part of it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I just want you to think about all aspects.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Like true comedy comes from truth. Though like real comedy
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: come from truth.
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: It does and depending on where you're from. Yo, people
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: don't understand the Baltimore. They just think we're just straight
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: all aggressive.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Nah, for sure, you know what I'm saying. We'll be
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: saying it that they think about. And I think that
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: that's like that's the thing. You know, we're gonna always
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: get the you know, the backlash we say ship that people.
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: That's why it was so many people that got mad
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: at you and Cam ask you them questions.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's yeah, that interview was interesting. Man, it
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: was interesting.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: But did you have fun?
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Though not all the way Honestly it was cool, but
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: then it just got to the point where like he
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: wasn't being real about ship and it wasn't fun no more.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Now now I'm like, you're not being even you're talking
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: so much about your own life. And I with him, right,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: but it was just everybody. So it was just moments
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: where I was like, Yo, you're not being real like.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: A cool I see what this is. Yeah, like listen,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: fuck with came real quick. Just said that you can't
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: remember all the moments. It's too many.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Just said one time your actually going in and up Baltimore.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: You're talking to me about the.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Not it do it and I get.
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: Get mad and then I forget what I asked you
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: about and it was like and I was like, oh yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: From there because I haven't heard it this interview.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: That's why I've been living. I've been living in l
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: A for like fifteen years now. So ship just if
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I go home for two weeks said when he gets
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: it's crazy when he.
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: Gets upset about something that ship, they're.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Trying to get mad.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Look definitely don't at all some question, right, but but
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: it I'm mad at you for kicking the cameraman off stage.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought that was kind of crazy because
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: that's your time to before you don't know what this
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: DoD is on stage.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I think that it was just people not used to
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: seeing me like that. Bro, like mad, yeah, like you.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: So it's like I try not to get mad, bro,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: because when I get mad, I get mad, you know
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And then it's like I'm like, it
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: takes a lot to get me mad, right, So when
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I get there, hopefully I don't want it to be
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: seen ever, Like I don't want people to see that
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: side of me, Like and it's not like I'm not human,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I just it can get taken out of context, which
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: it did, right, So I'm gonna tell the story officially
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: here on Breakfast Club. They hit us for this fair
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, it's close to LA. We'll take the
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: spring up, go up there and do it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Knock it out. We come back to the crib, right, cool.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Family only say all right, cool Lloyd, a couple of us,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: let's do it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: I get to my shows usually if it's shows with
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: other people, I get there like like when we're doing
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: a drink, not to get too like ten fifteen minutes before,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: because I don't like sitting in the dress room. I
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: get assy, like man, So no one told me that
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: a camera man was going to be on stage at all.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: So when I go on stage, I'm performing and I
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: keep seeing a figure around the stage is pretty big.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: If I keep seeing a figure and I'm like, okay,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Then when I saw him for the first time, I'm like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: damn that he jump up from because he didn't have
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: a camera, bro, he had an iPhone on a joint.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Go look at the video.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, he must have jumped from out of
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: the crowd. He came on my irony trip or whatever.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: He over there, But then he got comfortable and on
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: the stage, they got they had.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Too many speakers.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: They have more speakers because usually every artist get to
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: say what they wanted the stage to be. Like, they
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: left the other artist speakers on the stage, so it
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: was more speakers than were.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Supposed to be. So I'm looking for.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Where he about to go, and I tripped one time
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: over the over court. I ain't say nothing. I'm like, man,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: shit crazy, I gotta watch up. Then as I'm walking
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: back to the right side of the stage, he's all
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: the way downstage, like near the speaker, like you should
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: be like further back, like you feel me. And then
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: that moment is like, yo, you gotta get the funk
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: off the stage.
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: Bro, you didn't already.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Like you get the fun of It wasn't even like
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I hate you, nigga, get off, Like it was just like, nigga,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: get the fuck off.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I just feel me. It was like that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: Apologize shortly after.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: It was hot as a half ass apology.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: But I didn't even realize he went on tour. He
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: went on he went on a press tour about it.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: So like I was like, I'm like, bro, you know,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: let me just do it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what happened.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: He was but he was supposed to be there parently
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: and then you know, but it really was just I
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: didn't know he had an iPhone.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: Are we getting any visuals?
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm about to put a video out from
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: home uh in like a week period.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's coming to visual for Home is coming in.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: It's fire, it's fire, it's you know, it's nineties R
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: and B. I'm giving you our real arm on this project.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: So and more to come as well.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Moose swings too.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: More music, definitely tapping back into the movie space as well.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I'm building a lot of things behind the scene when
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: new citizens and the investment side, the creative side, hopefully
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: signing some artists. I got my eyes on a few.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I want to say it because last time I did,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: somebody sign him.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: But it's just like, yeah, I have a color. It
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: was this kid his name is Chosen. I forgot his
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: last name. His name is Chosen, but like he's super soulful.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I showed you off off off of the joint.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: But he got signed by Quality Control, you know what
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. And we was talking, but yeah he's already
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: been signed by SO but yeah, super talented, but really
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: looking for like raw talent man that I can help
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: evolve through this industry, you know, and and understand that
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: like outside of music, there's so many other opportunities, right,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: So generational wealth.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's really what the whole New Citizen for
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: me represents. You know.
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: So have you taken your girl to Baltimore?
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Bottimore?
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Like three, she went with me on Thanksgiving one year. Uh,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: we went to Bottomore went to Philly family in Philly, Baltimore.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: She she's Mexicans from she's from Uh.
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: He got wait, hold on, I don't comfortable with hands.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: She got, well, thank you.
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: But he and Mexican.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I think, man street Mexican. I cannot ask you a questions.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: What does it matter?
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: It don't matter, you.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: I just one of the know how that your girlfriend
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: is Mexican.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like doesn't matter.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: It don't matter to me.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Doctor, She's not that kind she legally yeah, man, everybody legal.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I love. Love is definitely love.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: But but I do like to see black men with
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: black women. But that that's that's just because that's what.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I feel for sure. I love to see all of it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I love to see all.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: But I want you to be in love if you
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: love her.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Love is nice, man, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: here if I didn't love her. I wouldn't We wouldn't
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: be here if we didn't love each other.
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: Pro creating like this exactly.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Like were having a beautiful experience right now.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: The only you know, the hardest part obviously is always
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: the traveler, right being away from home, checking in being like, damn,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: if I'm on stage and something's happening and I will not,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: I can't get that.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: It's this, This has been This has been hard because
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: it's like things were already in emotion.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: These toys are already playing, you know.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: But I get off tour in December, and I'll be
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: home for all the holidays, So I don't know.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think you owe anybody an explanation, though I
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: think that's it's like, why are you explaining who you love?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: You know? It's not so much explaining who I love is.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: It's it's the the narrative of oh Mario doesn't like
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: black women that I have an issue with, and where
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: this narrative was created from. That's the thing about the internet.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Is like, you can't just leave that, you know, out
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: in the air.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: That's crazy, you know what I'm saying.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: So I'd rather confront it so people understand that it's
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: a lie and it's it's not true, versus not saying anythingbody,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: which I've done in a couple of interviews since that interview,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: you know. But the way he asked it was so
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: he set me up.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: One of the questions, the question like what's your relationship
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: with black women?
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: No, that wasn't the first question.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: No, that was like that. He was like, do you
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: have a problem with black women?
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: That's a wild question.
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: The way you answered it, the way you answered it
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: that we played that clip here answered it, I don't
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: think it It didn't make it any worse, but I
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: think it made people try to find another reason why
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: you don't like.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Black Psychologically, these podcasts and people when people are not
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: everybody doesn't have the same way they receive things. And
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: we're dealing with y'all know, we're dealing I ain't got said,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: you know, we did a way in the coming, you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: and so it's like, yes, of course, like I come
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: from I'm a black man who comes from a black city,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: who comes from the struggles of black people in this country.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: So I come from what my course, a lot of
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: my core fans come from. So of course it's like
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: if someone says something like do you have a problem,
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: but the people who never even heard the question and
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: be like, wait.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: You got a problem?
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: It's like here, right, of.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Course, I gotta say.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm defending that to say
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: that I love black women and black women the most
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: beautiful creatures on this planet, and.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Why do you hate them?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Talk about say?
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: I feel like it made people do what he's doing
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Bro, I look for everybody who hates Charlamagne. But where
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: did you mean what.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: We met?
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: I met?
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I met her in Florida years ago when I was
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: living in Miami. We met and her mind was living
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: at the time we met. Well, she was like, we
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: knowing each other for like for like nine years.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So we've seen each other
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: through relationship. We've been friends for so long.
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's about your When you talked about your experience,
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: I had a problem with people having a problem with that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: Like you just talked about you went into it more.
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: You were saying because, yeah, the question was asked, oh
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: why don't you why do you have a problem with
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: black women? And you're like, it's not that I don't
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: have a problem with black women. You talked about your
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: experience with the black women who was you know where we.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Got to that the questions was just outrageous, Like, I
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: don't even know. I don't know where these allegations began,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: these questions begin.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: That's that's the point. I don't let's just set this straight.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know where they begin, and they're not I
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: don't hold those like that's for like clickbait.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: And all that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: But when we got around to speaking about my experience
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: that that came out of me saying, how.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Could I have hate? Like, it's not it's not hate. Yes,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't had.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: A beautiful experience as far as like the my story,
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: you know, but that doesn't lead to hate, bro, that
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: doesn't lead to hate.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: It's interesting you're right about the questions because you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: I'm interviewing you for years. I've never heard that before.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: But when you hear a question like that, you think yourself.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna research, Oh he has wrong with it, So
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: you know, but I think it's just it's a matter
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: of people getting to know me more, you know, And
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, this is why interviews are important.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: This is why.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: And then when you get to a certain level you
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: want to do anything, no more cool because now they
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: just talking about your music. But you have to have
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: something in place of that for them to talk about.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, I get it.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: You answered the question. Do you think doing the interviews
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: is even helpful? Because you explained and then they find
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: another reason.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Then I will say this, I think that there's always
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: different perspectives based on how you enter the conversation. This
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: is a different podcast, it's a different platform, her minds,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: you know, different energy, like everything is different. I don't mind.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I'm an open book at this point. I don't mind
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: having conversations. You know, I understand now how to navigate
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: it better. But you know, you got to go through
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: the through the mud sometimes. I understand, like, all right, cool,
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: we got to make sure we stand and stand on solid.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Girl.
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: You talk about when you talk about your girl being
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: pregnant and you and something, you can't be there all
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: the time because you wore tour and things like that
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: and your first time dad and it's like, wow, right,
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: so you only this is the first time you're ever
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: going through this. Are these the times where you like say, like, damn,
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: you wish your mom was here. Oh my god, You're like, damn,
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: I wish I could just ask her what the hell
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: I could do?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I wish my mom was here for a lot of things.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I wish my mom was here because she's one of
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the realist people I've ever known, you know, mother was.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: She's one of those people like.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Anything that she wanted she could have had. She had
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: a scholarship planning tennis. She was the number one tennis
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: player in Maryland.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: When she was young, she had a chemist she was
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: a major in chemistry, bachelors in chemistry. She loved God,
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: you know, and she was a hustling so she could
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: have transmitted that energy into anything. I think that we
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: would have made a great partnership in business because I'm
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: More thorough than I've ever been. I don't have any
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: plans on not expand, like I'm expanding it other ways,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and I think that she could have been right here
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: with me.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: And of course having another grandmother for my child and
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: having her be a part of my life.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, she here the spirit, but of course
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I would want that.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: But you know, my my girl's mom is an incredible
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: out wailers so far. You know, she's been there, she's
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: home right now and making sure she's straight. She's excited
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: about it. You know, God don't make no mistakes in
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: terms of like you know what it's meant for you,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: and how when you pray for things and you prepare
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: for things, how God shows up. I think we're blessed you.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I would love that.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: After doing the work on yourself that you've done, finding
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: so many personal answers, did that cause you to have
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: more questions for your mom that you probably didn't get that.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I've asked a lot of questions, you know. I think
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the thing that I've.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: The thing that I've been sending her love for lately,
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: because you know, is me forgiving her because spiritually, no
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: one ever really dies, right, the energy doesn't die, it's
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: just transmuted.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Sending her forgiveness and support, you know, for whatever her
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: soul may be still struggling with or whatever her next
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: journey is.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I think that that's you know, that's what I do. Now.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: That's what I focus on now, you know, is that
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: forgiveness for her, forgiving myself and just sending her so
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: much support and love. Because there's been moments where during
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: my spiritual journey when she would come visit me, and
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: you know, anybody who understands the spiritual realm, there's been blockages,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: like just when I'm able to, like we're able to,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: there's something that comes in between and blocks it. I've
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: had that happen a lot of times. So I'm like, okay,
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: so I have there's still something I have to work on.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: So the more and more work on.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: It, the closer and closer I feel that these other
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: entities and things can't even blocking in the spiritual room
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: because it's so much power because she has things that
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: she tells me that I need to know, and when
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: that those blockers, I can't get those. And so it's
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: a real thing, and it happens in real life too,
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: you know, with family, and there's entities that are built
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: out of trauma and they become their own entities in
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: your life. And if you don't work through those things,
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: you can't heal with your dad or your mom, or
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: your sister or your or your wife or your whatever,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's a real thing,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: and I think it doesn't change in the spiritual.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Bro, do you believe, you know, after doing all this
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: working on yourself, do you believe your life's purpose is
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: bigger than music?
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: One? Absolutely?
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Bro, Absolutely, I think that there's a spiritual side of it.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: There's a community building side of it. When I say that,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: I mean use my relationships to help build our communities.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: You know, I've been building myself back up over these
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: past few years, but now I'm like branching out to
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: be like, Okay, how can I use my relationships to
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: make sure in this new world that's happening.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: You know, my people, my community.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: You know, we just have a you know, we're put
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: in a position where people understand our power and understand
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: our unity in a different way. And it's it's gonna
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: take a lot of work, but that's like where my
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: head is at. But also just owning things and being
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: able to be creative, Like I'm working on a museum
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: right now that I don't know exactly where I'm gonna
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: put it yet, but it's it's gonna be everything. Sound
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: I can't say the whole concept because there's a lot
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: of rich people out there that can make it sure happen.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: But like, but yeah, it's it's gonna be incredible, and
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: then just a lot of other things.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Man, And I feel like.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: It's showing not only my fans and people who've been
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: watching my career for a long time, that yo, you
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: can be whoever you want to be. And we have
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: always been some of the most creative beings on this
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: planet and creating things that's never been created before.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: This is what I want to do. That's my goal.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: And it goes for everything from music to tech, business,
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Social experiences, restaurants, all types of things.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: You know, there's there's a lot of things happening, you know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: and even writing being an author. I have like three
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: books that I've written but that I haven't put out
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: yet because I don't know. Every time there's a new
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: version of me, I'm.
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: Like, y gotta go back and chang.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I gotta go back and change.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Have you ever experienced that, like you put out books? Like,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: how does that for you?
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I can do that with every single book that I've written.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, go back and change certain.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the first book was you know, up
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: to a certain point in my life, so it was
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: these lessons that I learned. Yeah, my second book, I
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: was completely empty because I asked the doing the work
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: on myself and started to go into therapy and stuff.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: So everything I thought I knew I was like, yo,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I really don't know nothing. I was just I learned
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of stuff. Then my third book, you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: it really came to me after a plant based experience,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: you know, with Ayauasca. I went on the Ayahuasca journey
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: and the same thing came up for me that came
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: up for you. It's like, yo, stop lying to yourself
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: and stop volunteering those lives to other people. So it's like, yeah,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: every every book has been a different version of me.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: So that's where I'm at now. Is just like okay,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: which which there's all these like versions, all of them
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: have truth, right, but which ones connected dots to where
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I am right now.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: So that's kind of where I'm at with that. But yeah,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: that's it's just I'm just bro. I'm just ready to
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: continue to grow. You know, music is my passion, but
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: you know with that comes all these other things more
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: to bigger, bigger shows and bigger opportunities and just you know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: just growing me and my team growing.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: What what's the message you think men need to hear
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: today that we don't talk about enough.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: I don't think men applaud out the better things about
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: each other enough. It's like, you know, if you see
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: your homie like that've been struggling with something for years
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: and he he's getting over it or he's trying to
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: get over it, appaud that, you know what I mean,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: show him some love, show him you see that, Like, Yo,
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: that's shit, cool, bro, like that shit that I'm inspired,
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Escapism, escaping the hour, traumas with drugs and you know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: maybe nightlife or whatever.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, everybody like to have fun, but
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you know, just.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Really like taking like the time to really take your
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: future serious. You know, sit down for a minute, like
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: maybe save some bread, Like sit back, you know what
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, look at your life, look at the people
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: in your life, and really analyze, like, Okay, if if
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: something is calling me to grow, all these people around
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: me going to help me g go out there?
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Part of that part? Do they want to grow? Like
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: because we get comfortable with our relationships. And I've I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: realized this because.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: I've had so many different people come in and out
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: of my life and a different parts of who I
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: am in my life, you know, different parts of my journey.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: And sometimes we get scared to let people go and
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: not let them go as in like, oh, I don't
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: fuck with you, but just let them go. Isn't like, Yo,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: I need this next few months to myself, bro or sist.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: You know, I gotta I gotta level up in life.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: There's some things that God is putting on me, you know,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: and hopefully I can help you with that, you know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: But I just need some time.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: And it's not personal. Not everybody gonna take that well.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: But sometimes we gotta do that, man, and then circle
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: the block and be like, yo, I see things from
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: a different perspective. I don't think we talk about that
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: enough in terms of it being something real that can
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: really change your life. There's a few things, man, I
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: mean that's yeah, that's just the name of you.
• 51:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, real quick, this ain't even no question. I've always
• 51:58
  Speaker 8: wanted to tell you. You snapped on the cry with
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: with you appreciate man, what that's crazy? He'd be snapping
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: on these features.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Just thank you. I might put a whole project out
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: with features, you know, just for fun for sure with that.
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah you never heard that man who is down down
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: is a streamer At this point?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Ray J is coming up this week. Anybody, what what
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: would you say to ray J? What would I say
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: to him? What would you say the ray J?
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Already man stopped stop his car for his breaks? Break
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like break it?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: But I told you before he ray J, you know
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: he is, he a troller. He gonna troll. But he
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: know what time it is.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Man, he knows.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: He said one which is bigger than let me look you.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: But anyway, listen, I'm on tour right now, nothing but
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: us tour, you know what I'm saying.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: We outside New York was amazing. The energy in New York.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: You know, we got like I think like eight more dates.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Project Moose Swings is out right now. Yeah, we were outside, man,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: I was That's all about to say. You gotta put
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: me in different conversations. Like right, I was on Brandy
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Show like two weeks ago. We did Last.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Weekend, what we do? Before that, we did.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Jonas brothers, Like, you know, it's just any stage.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I'm on too many stages for Ray j D even
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: he can't come on.
• 53:24
  Speaker 8: You know, it's up big ship, Big Mario and not
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: Luigi brother, like stop playing, let's play.
• 53:31
  Speaker 7: Wait, I'm not a question, yeah question that you just
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: didn't here, And it made me think of it when
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: you came out at the Brandy and Monica show.
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: You think Brandy but not Monica.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even not It wasn't even that type of thing.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: Wasn't People tried to make it a thing on Excellent
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: just saying that Brandy, and I'm like, was that like what?
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Nah? Shout out to Monica.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Bro, there's nothing, It's I came out on Brandy set,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I was just giving like, yeah,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: it was nothing. First of all, Monica is amazing. I
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: love Monica like me and like every time like like
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: it's something dope on like she always comment on her.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I come it like it's all love, like that's gang.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: So like, yeah, I think these narratives. It's yeah.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: And in the moment, like when you're on stage, in
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: the moment, sometimes you just like trying to remember everything
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: and be present like.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But yeah, it's nothing.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I'm happy to see both of them on tour, even
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: when I post it. When I was on the stage,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: I congratulated both of them like I gave them both flowers. Yeah,
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: so people just be taking it out of proportion, man,
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: trying to make me an R and B villain. Man,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: I don't want to.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Now embrace it.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: That one was unfair, Adel because yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I love by the way about the shadows side though,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: when you feel comfortable over there.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: Like, no, I'm not trying to embrace that me and
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I'm me embracing that. It's different, bro, from it's not.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: I don't need like, I don't need drugs to be dark.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: I don't need like I don't want to be I
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: don't want to go there.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I don't want to go there no more. I don't
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: want to go there because I can't. What if I
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: like it, That's.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: It's a little that's the scared part when you don't.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Want to be there, you know, I feel good, like
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: what if I like it?
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: And then it's now I got to create this whole
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: other thing around me, And it's like, nah, Bro, I listen.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: I got too many blessings in my life right now
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: to me, things that I'm creating, great partners that are
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: just like wanting to like invest in things I'm doing.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I too much. This is too much to lose.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: I'm happy for you, brother, I appreciate it. I really
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: enjoyed this conversation.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Hearing you do the work is good.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: You want yeah, yeah, we outside. I just want to
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: make sure you're missing nothing.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Mood swings out right now. You know.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Everybody having mood swings right now, you know, and it's hey, move,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: invite the mood swings, balance it out, enjoy it. You know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Let's get back to love. Let's keep R and B alive, Bros.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: R and B is such an important genre, you know.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: It allows us to explore love, and it allows us
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: to explore intimacy, allows us to have fun, and we
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: can have different conversations in it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: It's just it's just all encompassing genre. I wouldn't want
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: to pick any other genre. Mose swings out right now.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: I don't even know.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: What to play of it. We could play home, we
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: could play have y'all heard the EP? Yet? All right?
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Cool?
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: When y'all get a chance. Press play when you get
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: back to the crit got you that thing you ad yo?
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Play all right?
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: Cool cool, let's hear nobody but nobody, but yeah, Yes,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: the breakfast Club is Mario.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Hold on every day up waiting, Click yours up the
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: breakfast Club.
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: You don't finish or y'all done.