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  Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield, junior safety for the Tip of Bay Buccaneers,
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  Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year, and this is NFL Report.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve wis with you.
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  Speaker 1: He did not mention that he is an All Pro
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  Speaker 1: because that happened before he was an All Pro. Steve.
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  Speaker 1: He also didn't mention that he's a franchise tagged safety,
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  Speaker 1: one of eight players hit with the franchise tag. Will
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  Speaker 1: over all of that with Ian Rappaport on this show.
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  Speaker 1: We're also going to break down the Dallas Cowboys with
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  Speaker 1: Jane Slater. Are there any talks going on between Dak
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  Speaker 1: and the Cowboys? What's happening there? Steve lance Zerline also
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  Speaker 1: joins the show. He was on the field in Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: talking about all these quarterbacks who helped themselves, who hurt themselves,
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  Speaker 1: and we get into a wide receiver debate. I have
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  Speaker 1: something I want to say about where he has these
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  Speaker 1: top wide receivers. And then we also have Mark Ross
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  Speaker 1: also was in Indianapolis breaking down cornerbacks. How about what
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  Speaker 1: happens inside the building deciding these tags? Steve as well
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  Speaker 1: as speed versus just being a football player, at the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver spot. Loaded loaded show.
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  Speaker 2: A loaded loaded show, and JP, we saw on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: as you mentioned, eight players get franchise tag and we
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  Speaker 2: had one player get transition tagged. With The one position
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  Speaker 2: where we did not see a player get tagged was
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  Speaker 2: running back. After last year we saw players like Saquon
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  Speaker 2: Barkley get tagged. So the all these running backs, Josh Jacobs,
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  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry, Zach Moss, they are about to
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  Speaker 2: hit the market. So let's chop it up about these
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  Speaker 2: running backs because as we know, on the free agent market,
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  Speaker 2: it has not served these running backs. Well, that is
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  Speaker 2: a depressed economic market. So when you look at some
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  Speaker 2: of these players, JP, I'm expecting most of them to
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  Speaker 2: land in different places. But one, do you think they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get the dollars that they desire? But two, how
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  Speaker 2: much could it change of scenery not only help the player,
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  Speaker 2: but help the team that acquires that player.
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  Speaker 1: You see, what we're gonna get a chance to see
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  Speaker 1: is how other teams feel about these players. We know
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  Speaker 1: how the Giants feel about Saquon Barkley, right how does
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the league right now with his injury history?
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  Speaker 1: But also is really dynamic play, dual threat as a
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  Speaker 1: runner and catching the football. How do other teams, say,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the Dallas Cowboys or the Houston Texans or any
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  Speaker 1: other team that plays in the Great State of Texas
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  Speaker 1: feels about Saquon. We are now for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: going to have an opportunity where we really see if
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  Speaker 1: the value could be there in going after these running backs.
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  Speaker 1: The other part that plays a factor in this is
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  Speaker 1: that the salary cap went up thirty million dollars. There's
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  Speaker 1: some more space in there to give a couple extra dollars.
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  Speaker 1: You know, running back agents are going to be saying
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  Speaker 1: this to guys like Saquon and to guys like we
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  Speaker 1: didn't mention him, Steve Dereck Henry possibly landing somewhere. He's
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  Speaker 1: kind of an anomaly at his age. Where are these
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  Speaker 1: players valued. We're gonna get our first opportunity to see that.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's the fascinating point of this offseason
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  Speaker 1: because as you compound that with the lack of running
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  Speaker 1: back talent coming out in this draft, our own Daniel Jeremiah,
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  Speaker 1: not a single running back in the top fifty. There
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  Speaker 1: are deep number of running backs. There's different style of
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  Speaker 1: running backs. But there is money to give them, will
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  Speaker 1: it find their way to their hands? That's the part
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  Speaker 1: I'm still not entirely sure.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see it. I just been I don't see it, James.
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  Speaker 2: We have seen these teams keep the running market depressed.
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  Speaker 2: Year after the year. You're seeing young running backs, you know,
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  Speaker 2: guys in their first and second year, like a Kyen
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  Speaker 2: Williams with the Rams, come in and deliver on a
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  Speaker 2: rookie contract from a mid round pick that you know,
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  Speaker 2: instead of paying Derek Henry twelve or thirteen million dollars,
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  Speaker 2: You're getting similar statistics out of that type of young
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  Speaker 2: running back. And guess what when you look at Saquon Barkley,
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  Speaker 2: when you look at Josh Jacobs, and you look at
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  Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, did their teams make the playoffs? No, that's
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  Speaker 2: what their teams are saying, we can lose without you.
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  Speaker 2: Right now. I'm not saying the Raiders are going to
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  Speaker 2: try to get rid of Josh Shacobs. We've heard Antonio
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  Speaker 2: Pierce say, we know who stirs a drink on the offense,
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  Speaker 2: and Josh Shakobs is that type of player.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll also say.
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  Speaker 2: This, he mentioned it sat Quon Barkley goes to a
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  Speaker 2: Dallas or Derrick Henry goes to Baltimore, or Josh Jacobs
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  Speaker 2: goes to a different team, They're gonna help. These are
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  Speaker 2: very good players who can find themselves because they have
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  Speaker 2: the choice to now put themselves, maybe even at less money,
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  Speaker 2: in winning situations. And I think that's a that's a
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  Speaker 2: very big deal JP. These players also have the choice
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  Speaker 2: to say that team's got a good offensive line, that
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  Speaker 2: team runs a zone stretch run scheme that fits my
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  Speaker 2: style better instead of the power scheme that I've been in.
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  Speaker 2: Let me try and go get to that the JP.
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  Speaker 2: Let's also though, the quarterback market is very interesting because
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  Speaker 2: we continue to hear that Baker Mayfield could be somebody
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  Speaker 2: who returns to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that's playing on
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  Speaker 2: a one year, five million dollar deal last year and
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  Speaker 2: really putting himself in a situation to make money. He
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  Speaker 2: wasn't tagged. He's gonna become available to sign with another
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  Speaker 2: team next week unless him and the Buccaneers he come
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  Speaker 2: to a deal. So look, le's play a little game
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  Speaker 2: show here, JP. What free agent quarterback out there right
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  Speaker 2: now might be or even a guy who gets traded,
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  Speaker 2: he gets cut, might be the next Baker Mayfield, the
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  Speaker 2: guy to play on a one year deal and cash
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  Speaker 2: in the following year.
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  Speaker 1: Now you mentioned cash in the part you forgot their Steve.
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  Speaker 1: This deal could be well over thirty million dollars that
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  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is going to sign, and that is a
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  Speaker 1: massive jump from the five. So who is the guy
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  Speaker 1: that can play that role? I'm gonna really value with
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  Speaker 1: this one. What if it's Mac Jones. Now he is
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  Speaker 1: not released, he obviously still is under contract, but it
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  Speaker 1: would probably take a sixth rounder to trade for Mac
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  Speaker 1: Jones right now, even if you're giving that. But this
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  Speaker 1: is a guy that experienced probably quarterback malpractice in New England.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that rookie season, he finished second for Rookie of
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  Speaker 1: the Year, They had ten wins, they went to the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: Then he has an off He is a defensive coordinator
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  Speaker 1: and a special teams coordinator as co offensive coordinators the
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  Speaker 1: next year, things go awry the following season. I go
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  Speaker 1: back to the evaluators. I talked to Steve when he
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  Speaker 1: was coming out, and it was he is the best
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  Speaker 1: processor in this draft. And it's not even close in
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  Speaker 1: terms of information I had one quarterback coach tell me
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  Speaker 1: anything you tell him, he will spit it back to you.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of coverage, in terms of progressions, in terms
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  Speaker 1: of offensive line alignments, what are all of those things?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of point at a lot of offenses that are
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  Speaker 1: run around the NFL right now, you look at those
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  Speaker 1: are all the things that Sean Payton is really looking for.
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  Speaker 1: The craziest aspect of why I bring this up in Indianapolis,
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  Speaker 1: Steve two different offensive coaches that work with the quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: one an offensive coordinator, one a quarterback coach, said if
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  Speaker 1: mac Jones was taken third overall by Kyle Shanahan, they
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  Speaker 1: would have at least one super Bowl right now? Could
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  Speaker 1: mac Jones be the one with a change of scenery
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  Speaker 1: that does the Baker Mayfield? We'll see who do you have.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even tolerating backhanded rock perty, slander, none of
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  Speaker 2: that here. That's where the real MVP lives on this show.
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  Speaker 2: So we are not get out of here that I
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  Speaker 2: would agree if mat Jone goes to the right situation
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  Speaker 2: to Sean Payton, I think even Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: he might have an opportunity. Okay, but I'm gonna I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go way out here, laugh at me. Jameis Winston. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Jameis Winston, He's had his opportunities had at Tampa, he
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  Speaker 2: had some in New Orleans. Let's say he goes to
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  Speaker 2: place like Seattle, Right, he goes there to back up Gino,
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  Speaker 2: gets his opportunity to play first off. Jamis is gonna
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  Speaker 2: win over a locker room, right, He's gonna win over
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  Speaker 2: the community. He's one of the most well like dudes
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL for a lot of different reasons. He's
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  Speaker 2: a character, but he's somebody who's also like one of
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  Speaker 2: these really sweet, absolute community driven guys. We know he
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  Speaker 2: could throw the ball if he gets with a team
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  Speaker 2: like Seattle with Jack Smith and Jigma, with DK Metcalf,
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  Speaker 2: with Tyler Lockout Lockett, with a running game, with a
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  Speaker 2: running game and all those strong offensive linemen that they
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  Speaker 2: have a big armlike kids playing in weather like that,
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  Speaker 2: and that could be temperamental. Jameis Winston might be a
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  Speaker 2: guy who can play himself back into the conference station.
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  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are gonna look at
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  Speaker 2: me crazy. Guess what, I'm gonna look at you crazy back,
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  Speaker 2: because we're playing a game show in this segment right now.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what we do. Okay, it's not pin the
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  Speaker 2: tail on the donkey, it's not dark Love. We're just playing.
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  Speaker 2: We're just playing a game show. But JB speaking a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Lance Zerline, our draft analyst, came out with his mock
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  Speaker 2: draft two point oh, and he only has four quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: going in the first round.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting ready to find out what's going on in
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  Speaker 2: the mind of Lance Zerline. We come back on the
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  Speaker 2: NFL repack flc I, We're back at the NFL Report.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Steve White with my guy James Palmer and Lance Zerline,
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  Speaker 2: our draft analyst, just released his draft. His mock draft
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  Speaker 2: two point zero.
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  Speaker 1: HAYLEB.
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  Speaker 2: Williams number one, No surprise you you have Jayden Daniels
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  Speaker 2: and Drake May, but all quarterbacks going in the top three.
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  Speaker 2: And look at number nine. Lance Zerline has the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: training up to get Michigan quarterback JJ McCarthy, JAP. What
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  Speaker 2: do you say we bring in Lance zero line. Of
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  Speaker 2: course you can find he's mock draft NFL dot com.
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  Speaker 2: And let's start right there. Lance number nine, the Denver
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  Speaker 2: Bronco is making the move to go get JJ McCarthy.
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  Speaker 2: And in this decision, was it harder as he de
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  Speaker 2: broncos Is moving up or selecting McCarthy with that pick.
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  Speaker 3: No, it was harder to see them moving up.
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  Speaker 4: Look, they have limited draft capital this year, but you
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  Speaker 4: know by cutting, you know, you cut Russell Wilson, you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna take a cap hit this year, You're gonna take
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  Speaker 4: a cap hit next year.
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  Speaker 3: I just thought JJ.
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  Speaker 4: McCarthy is one of these guys that really makes a
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  Speaker 4: lot of sense with Sean Payton. Sean Payton, this is
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  Speaker 4: year three for him. He needs to start moving in
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  Speaker 4: the right direction. And I think if JJ McCarthy is
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  Speaker 4: still there at nine and the Bears are willing to
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  Speaker 4: move back, which I think they may based on how
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  Speaker 4: I have the board shaking out and what their needs are,
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  Speaker 4: because they could go pass Russer, they could go with
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  Speaker 4: wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: So if they were to move back now I know
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  Speaker 3: it's an.
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  Speaker 4: Aggressive move, you'd probably have to deal a future second
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  Speaker 4: round pick in next year's draft, but it would still
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  Speaker 4: give Sean Payton a quarterback really run his offense. He's
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  Speaker 4: a very efficient quarterback. JJ McCarthy, he's still getting better.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he did a nice.
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  Speaker 4: Job Steve the second half of the drills at the
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  Speaker 4: combine where he really did some nice self correcting. He
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  Speaker 4: threw great deep balls. He's a very accurate passer, intermediate
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  Speaker 4: and deep.
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  Speaker 1: So I think this is just an.
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  Speaker 4: Aggressive move to try to quickly right the ship for
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  Speaker 4: a failed quarterback mistake with Russell Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like this lands because Bucky Brooks, your
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  Speaker 1: co worker, our co worker was on the show a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, said I see some Justin Herbert
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  Speaker 1: and JJ McCarthy. We all know where Sean was looking
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  Speaker 1: to maybe land after that year off or crossing his fingers,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that it would be with Justin Herbert and the Chargers,
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  Speaker 1: but he's now in Denver maybe gets a similar style
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  Speaker 1: of quarterback. You have Drake May there at the number
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  Speaker 1: three spot. You kind of think him throwing or not
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  Speaker 1: throwing helped or hurt him in the eyes of evaluators.
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  Speaker 1: After your time in Indylance.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think the third pick is one of
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  Speaker 4: the hardest ones to First of all, it starts with
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  Speaker 4: Washington do the quarterback?
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming yes, Is it Daniels or May those.
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  Speaker 4: Are That's more than likely going to be the choice
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  Speaker 4: at number two. But let's just say Daniels goes to
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  Speaker 4: and may go's three. Think about this, you had picks.
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  Speaker 3: Number one and potentially two not working out.
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  Speaker 4: You're the biggest guy with the biggest arm at the
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  Speaker 4: combine in terms of the guys who are likely to
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  Speaker 4: be first round picks, and you didn't work out the combine. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I understand it's a choice that you have to make
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  Speaker 4: based on the fact that you're throwing the guys who
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  Speaker 4: maybe you're not going to have the same timing with,
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  Speaker 4: And I understand that.
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  Speaker 3: But C J.
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  Speaker 4: Stroud through there, Anthony Richardson through there, Will Levis through there.
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  Speaker 4: Last year, two of those guys went number two and
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  Speaker 4: number four. One was offensive Rookie of the Year. So
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  Speaker 4: I think with Drake may you know, yes, touching accuracy
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  Speaker 4: can be an issue for him, but also that stage,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that stage where he could have walked out
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  Speaker 4: of there as the most talked about quarterback prospect instead
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  Speaker 4: of Michael Pennox and JJ McCarthy.
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  Speaker 3: I think that would have been huge for Drake May.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he hurt himself, but I certainly
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  Speaker 4: think there was an opportunity to help himself had he
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  Speaker 4: worked out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But you know, for guys like McCarthy and even
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  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, they say their draft position is pretty set.
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  Speaker 2: It probably only hurt themselves if they participate in the combine.
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  Speaker 2: That's always something they've got away. But in your mock draft,
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  Speaker 2: and JP, I'm gonna let you jump in real quick.
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  Speaker 2: But in your mock draft, Lance, you only got four
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks going in the first round. Okay, JP, I want
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  Speaker 2: you to pick up because you got a point you
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  Speaker 2: want to make right.
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  Speaker 1: Here, Well, I want to make it. John Beck. On
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  Speaker 1: our last show, Steve said that CJ. Stroud opting to
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  Speaker 1: throw at the combine, the number of texts Lance that
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  Speaker 1: becks that he got after CJ decided to throw where
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  Speaker 1: they said they watched the film they thought the ball
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  Speaker 1: came out of his hand. Well, but when all those
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  Speaker 1: coaches can stand right behind him on the field and
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  Speaker 1: he came out of his hand, they were wowed by CJ. Stroud.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you're right, that's something Drake may could
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  Speaker 1: have went out and done. Is there anybody with these quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 1: And Steve's kind of alluding to the ones you have
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  Speaker 1: going in the first round. Anybody kind of have that
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  Speaker 1: happen to them at this combine where maybe there was
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  Speaker 1: one perception and it was slightly maybe increased because they
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  Speaker 1: did decide to throw.
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  Speaker 3: You know, actually it went the other way for bow Knicks.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think it came out of his hands the
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  Speaker 4: way I expected it to. And you are right, that
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  Speaker 4: is something when you're on the field. And I saw
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  Speaker 4: Richardson throw and I thought Carson Wentz had that happen
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  Speaker 4: when he was on the field.
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  Speaker 3: It just came out differently for him.
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  Speaker 4: And of course he was the second pick of the
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  Speaker 4: draft from with the Philadelphia Eagles in twenty sixteen. I
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  Speaker 4: thought that, you know, JJ McCarthy was about like what
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  Speaker 4: I expected, not a big arm.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it's good enough.
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  Speaker 4: I think bo Knicks is good enough, but I expected
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  Speaker 4: bow Knicks to be really have a plus arm. I
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  Speaker 4: thought on tape it looked like he had a plus arm,
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  Speaker 4: and really in the combine work out that I came
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  Speaker 4: away wanting more from his arm. Now he throws accurately
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  Speaker 4: and he does everything he needs to do, but there
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  Speaker 4: was not the same zip on those throws that I
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  Speaker 4: thought I was expecting to see, so it worked the
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  Speaker 4: other way with him, But I do think that with
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  Speaker 4: Drake May there would have.
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  Speaker 3: Been a huge, huge emphasis.
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  Speaker 4: I think all those the people standing behind and I'm
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  Speaker 4: you'll see me somewhere in there. If you slow down
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  Speaker 4: the tape I was watching, you can.
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  Speaker 3: Feel them there.
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  Speaker 1: I am.
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  Speaker 4: You can see me getting that shot of Joe Milton's throw.
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  Speaker 4: I can promise you that that was unbelievable. But no,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and Steve, you asked about four quarterbacksually, I
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  Speaker 4: think what I just talked about with Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: what I just talked about with bow Nicks, is he
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  Speaker 4: himself out of the first a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 4: the senior ball and maybe the combine he looks solid.
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  Speaker 4: But are you taking solid quarterback the fifth one off
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  Speaker 4: the board in the first round instead of some of
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  Speaker 4: those pass rushers, cornerbacks, wide receivers.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, similarly, Michael Pennix had a good combine,
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  Speaker 4: but he also has four season ending injuries back to
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  Speaker 4: back to back to back in his in his background,
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  Speaker 4: and I think, you know, he'll be a twenty five
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  Speaker 4: year old rookie. These are things that are hard to
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  Speaker 4: get away from in the first round. But a team
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  Speaker 4: also may look at Penis and say, look, he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be a twenty five year old rookie.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get that extra year on him.
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  Speaker 4: Let's take him at the back end of the first
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  Speaker 4: So hard to say what's gonna happen with the fifth
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  Speaker 4: quarterback or who it's going to be. But I think
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be between bon Knicks and Penix. But
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  Speaker 4: I don't see six picks. I don't see six quarterbacks
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  Speaker 4: in the first round. I don't see that happen.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: All right, So we're assuming that, you know, Caleb Williams
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: and Jade Daniels who did not throw, they're going to
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: be among the top three picks. And I want to
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: get some of these wide receivers because Marvin Harrison, let's go,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: didn't work out the combine, Nope, doesn't plan to work
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: out at his pro day. But I don't think any
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: of us is going to think this is going to
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: negatively impact his draft status. What about you know, you
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: just talk You just talk about drik may not not throwing,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: and maybe that didn't naturally help him. What about this
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: approach that Marvin Harrison has done because This is pretty unique.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: It's a bold choice.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Cotton, to not do anything from a draft standpoint is
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: a very bold choice.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: But I think you make a very fair point, Steve.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I think that you know, does he have to No,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: he doesn't necessarily have to, and people know who he is.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: But I do think that the general public has just
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: for years, or at least for the entire year, just
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: to assume Marvin Harrison, Junr. Is a top wide receiver
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: and KYLEB. Williams is generational. I don't know that either
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: of those are accurate. I don't think Caleb Williams generational.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: People throw that term around way too much, or more
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: elite neighbors. You know, milite neighbors on a lot of
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: people's boards and teams boards is number one. It's not
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: a clean suite for Marvin Harrison like people think. And
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I think Roma Donze is a legitimate contender as well.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: So I think those top three guys Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Elite neighbors. I have it neighbors one in the draft
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: for me, he's one one in the draft. I don't
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: think he'll go first, obviously, he's the top player in
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: this draft. And Marvin Harrison is my second favorite player
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: in this draft, and then we get down to Caleb Williams.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: But I think Adunze Neighbors and Marvin Harrison Junior is
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: a much more close battle than people would expect. And
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I think the boards are going to look vastly different
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: on how teams rate the top three wide receivers, because
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I've already had those conversations, and so I do think
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: the race to be the first wide receiver is going
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: to be a good one.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: All right, Let's put Lance's board back up there, because
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I would think, being an Ohio State Buck guy myself,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I would think Arizona would put Marvin Harrison Junior right
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: there at number four. Going to Arizona. I want to
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: press the button here a little bit, Lance, because I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: have a feeling that there's a little bit of a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you know, just I don't want to say exhaustion or
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: just we've been talking about Marvin Harrrison Junior for so long,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: and I mean like the last two years. That is
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: that impacting him in a negative fashion in some way?
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Because I've spoken to Garrett Wilson, I've spoken to Chris Olave,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I've spoken to Jackson Smith and Jigba three first round
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: picks that were in that wide receiver room with Marvin
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Harrison Junior at Ohio State, and all three of them
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: that were first round picks, one of them are Rookie
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: of the Year. All say Marvin Harrison Junior is better
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: than each of them. Are we just having a little
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: bit of fatigue here because we've been talking about Marvin
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: for so long?
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: See not for me. I have Marvin Harrison. I have
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior rated higher than all three of those guys.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: And you got him two l Yeah, I've got I've
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: got him higher.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: But here's the problem. Malik Nighbors is going to be
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: a four three forty guy. We won't get a time on.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Most people think Marvin Harrison's going to be a mid
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: four four to higher four to four wide receiver, which
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: is fine, that's that's obviously not a problem. But it's
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: really going to get down to flavor here. Like Marvin's
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: very polished. We understand that, but I don't know. Look,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: if his name wasn't Marvin Harrison Junior, I don't know
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: that this is like some lock that people think he's
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: automatically the guy.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I know, he's a great wide receiver. He's a great
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: wide receiver.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's number two in my game a
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: sixty eight, which is really high. I'm just saying I
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: don't understand why anyone could actually watch tape and not
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: see what myliite Neighbors is capable of. This is what
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I'm running into, guys, is I'm running into people who
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: just have decided that it's only Marvin Harrison and that's it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: And I'm telling you now, I've talked to one team
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: for sure, with the top five pick that could use
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: wide receiver. Who has Marvin Harrison third behind a Dunza
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: and Malik Neighbors won. So it's going to be different.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I'm just telling you it's a lot different when you
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: talk to teams than what the public thinks. But let's
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: remember this too. You talk about being fatigued, the fatigue
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: of Marvin Harrison Junior. Yes, for what we do, that's
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: correct potentially. However, it doesn't really affect me because I've
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: already got their grades down and I'm just trying to
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: think like NFL teams, and NFL teams don't get fatigued
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: of a player. They have to pick the best player
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: that gives them the best chance to win. So whoever
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Arizona has at number four, you know they're going to
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: make that the first wide receiver off the board. If
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: it's Harrison, more power to them. Draft the guy you
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: think is number one. You want a real wild card.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: What if the rumor about Baker Mayfield maybe being you know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: in play for What if he's in play for New
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: England and Elliott Wolf and Alonzo Highsmith and those guys
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: who had him in Cleveland. What if they were to
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: do that and then with the third pick take a
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: wide receiver, then all hell breaks loose because Arizona would
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: have a huge opportunity to either trade back and let
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: someone come up for a quarterback.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, so listen, it may not be as
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: clean as my mock.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Frankly, if you had flip flopped the wide receivers, you
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: guys would probably say, this is just a normal looking board. However,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I don't. It never goes normal. What does it ever
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: go like we think it's gonna go, It never does.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: No, I love the and I'm really hoping that there's
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: a situation where it gets all stirred up like this,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: we have to get out. But one thing. And I
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: know you've probably heard this too. I know you said
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Elik Neighbors and everyone says he is a dog like
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: he's like Davante Adams. Every snap in practice is like
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the last play he's ever gonna play. Brian Thomas, his
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: LSU teammate. I've spoken to some people who say he's
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: more naturally gifted than Elik Neighbors, and he is starting
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: to realize to get that dog in him, that daily
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: grinded him. Where he is not nearly at his peak.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of room to grow. That's a player
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: to look out for.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Lance.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I'd love to get your opinion on this. I had
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to tag it. I mean in my ear saying we
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: got to get out, we got to get you back.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Brother.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: We love having that on my man.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Let's make go straight to Twitter and start tweeting about
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: this right now.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Let's do it all right, man, Hey, Lance Zerline once again.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Check out his mock draft on NFL dot Com. It
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: is good stuff. And coming up, Jane Slater our Cowboys
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Inside is gonna let us know the latest on Dak
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Prescott negotiations. Is it gonna be a long term deal
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: or has Jerry Jones got something up his sleeve. We're
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: gonna find out next on the NFL Report. You're listening
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to the NFL Report podcast, but you can watch me,
• 22:19
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• 22:22
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• 22:26
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• 22:33
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• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Free streaming apps. Welcome back to the NFL Report, James
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Palmer alongside Steve Which Here are the franchise tagged players
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: within the NFL. We had a bunch of them this
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: year t Higgins right there at the top. You look
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: at the number for the wide receiver, Steve Man. But
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the I want to tell you about with the NFL
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Network insider Ian Rappaport is not everybody is either going
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to a play on the tag or b play on
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the team that tagged them. Well, it almost sounds like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: we're playing a game in the school yard, doesn't it. Ian.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: What I want to bring you in and thank you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: for joining us, is maybe when you look at this list,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is there anybody that jumps out at you. I know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: we've heard the rumblings of Lagarius Need has been tagged,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and then there is talk of a possible trade. Is
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: there anybody on this list and we'll start there that
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: this tag just allows them to kind of work further
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and maybe having them play somewhere else.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Lugarius Need is the obvious one.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: I know, he has permission to seek a trade, his
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: agent as permission to talk to other teams. Anything is possible.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: I think playing on the one year tag also possible.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: For the Chiefs.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: They're also trying to get Chris Jones done. If Chris
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Jones does get done, it's going to be a very
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: very very large deal, potentially in the thirty million dollar.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Range, So they need some space.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: A trade makes sense, and Lagarius Need is a very
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: very good player. Someone needs a really good player would
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: probably be the top will definitely be the top corner
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: on the market, So that makes sense. As far as
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: who just a lot of cornerback needy teams. Honestly, I
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: mean it seems like the Colts, the Titans, the Patriots,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: the Lions. There's a lot of them, and so I think, yeah,
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: trade is possible as far as the others, I mean,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: obviously we know there's been interest from other teams and
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: potentially trading for Brian Burns.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: The Carolina Panthers have always rebuffed that interest.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: They have a new GM now you sort of wonder
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: if that is still in the same place. I think
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: the others, you know, potentially could be looking at long
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: term deals, and you know, usually this is something we
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: deal with in July, much to my chagrin and drops
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: my golf season. There's some indications that some of the
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: deals might come sooner, you know. I would say, for instance,
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: the Bucks and Antoine Winfield and negotiated a potential long
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: term deal. The Colts and Michael Pittman have done the same.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: We'll see if some of those deals. Pretend to Jalen
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Johnson with the Bear, see if some of those deals
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: can get done sooner rather than later.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: An interesting name on this list to me though, is
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Justin Amountaweek, the DND tackle for the Baltimore Ravens. He's
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: getting ready to see Stone Cole Chris Jones get paid
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: and Christian Wilkins get paid, whereas he's locked down in
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: a one year franchise tender. I mean when you're a
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: player like him, a young guy who just is coming
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: off a fantastic season, and you're gonna see players your
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: position get paid. Might the Ravens be working on a
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: longer term deal with him to bring him more in
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: line with those guys or is he a player that
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: we're likely to see playout on a one year tag.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Well, I think the hope is to lock him in
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: a long term deal.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: And you know, this defensive tackle market for years was
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: all over the place, right, I mean you had the
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Aaron Donald contract. Then you had a bunch of guys
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: really low and there just wasn't a lot of structure
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: there to kind of help the line deals.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: And then you had Jeff Simmons.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: Then you have Quinnin Williams, right, obviously Chris Jones from
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: a couple of years ago. This market is getting much
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: more well defined now. My guess is you get through
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: free agency, you see where Christian Wilkins ends up. Does
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: he get to like twenty three? Does he get to
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: like twenty five? That would probably go a long way
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: in dictating where justin Medabique lands. He's really good and
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: if he was a free agent, he'd be right with
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Wilkins as being the top defensive tackle. My guess is,
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: you get through free agency, see where the salary slots in,
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: and then you say, basically, can we do a deal
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: off of these terms? And my guess is both sides
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: are pretty reasonable. My guess is something can get done.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: You know, I want to kind of stay right there
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: because you and I were in Indianapolis. We talked to
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: every team, and I'm hearing from multiple teams I need
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: defensive tackles. We are in need of them, and there's
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: not a lot of them in this draft. What is
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: the buzz when you look at Christian Wilkins and you
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: look at maybe if Chris Jones can get to the
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: point to where they can start talking to other teams
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: where like, is that I guess deficiency that some teams
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: are nervous or talking about drive these guys number up
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: potentially during free agency?
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: Well yeah, and you know, the draft is separate from
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: free agency, but it's also kind of not because if
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: you're a team, like, there's not a ton of top, top,
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: top tier offensive tackles in this freateency market, right, I mean,
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: you have a couple Tyron Smith who's now is going
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: to be free you're gonna make a really good gonna
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: make a really good salary.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: There's a couple, but not a ton.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: And you look in the draft and there's like, could
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: be like eight first round offensive tackles. So teams would
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: be like, you know what, if I don't get a
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: tackle in freateency, I'll probably be okay. I'll probably find one.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: Basically the opposite for defensive tackles. You can't find these guys,
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Guys like Christian Wilkins, guys like Justin Mattabik, Chris Jones.
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: You can't get them.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, I think the market drives their
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: salaries up.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: And I think if you're the Chiefs, look, the Chiefs
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: are an awesome team. They're very well rounded.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: You can't look at what the Chiefs did on defense
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: and say, eh, they'd be fine without Chris Jones. He
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: helps make that whole thing go. Teams recognize that. So
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: it's not only like the Chiefs want to resign Chris
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Jones because he's awesome. It's also other teams are like,
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: I need my own Chris Jones.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: That would help Already.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: We want you to go out and get in a
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: couple rounds of eighteen over the next couple of days
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: before the free agency legal tamping period starts on Monday, like.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: The off season start off season starts next Friday.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, brother, Hey, we'll hit him straight,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: hit him straight. Until then. We appreciate you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: Come on, cheer leader, we need you.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Gotta love this man, you gotta love it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here we go, Here we go, Yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Wait, tak, let me tell Nansel throws back of the insol.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Then once you do something like that, you gotta score.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I can't come back to the sideline.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: How to touchdown.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: We'll do this again next week. Man went on three.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: He went to three. James Palmer, we are now joining
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: me our Jane Slater and Jane. We saw Dak Prescott.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: He's got the fresh new go tee. Looks like he's
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: at a Kung Fu theater with that new look right there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: But the big question with the Cowboys is a contract
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: extension for Dak. Jerry Jones is kind of like, hey,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: we'll get it done when we get it done. And
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I just want to know, have there been any conversation
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: between the Cowboys and Prescott or his representation real quick?
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: It's funny any information as it relates to Dak, whether
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: it be the haircut, the tattoos, it goes viral.
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: He is good for business here in Dallas.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: Napopjarry loves to keep things in the sideline, in the headlines,
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: right and he's a new dad, a girl dad, so
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: very excited for his young daughter, MJ.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: Interestingly enough, Steve I reached out to a source and
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: formed and he told me that there have not been
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: any discussions with Todd Fritz, Dak's agent.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Hmm. So in saying that, then, Jane, what are we
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to kind of what are we to kind of take
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: from the fact that there's been no talks right now?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, is it to something like they're prioritizing we'll
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: get to that when we get to it, or do
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: you think there's gonna be a sense of urgence? See,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: because Dak right now is about to hold up a
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: significant part of their salary cap flexibility because what's his number?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Around sixty million?
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah, sixty million, And yes, Steve I was surprised to
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: learn that Todd France and Dak Prescott's team.
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: Rather have not talked with the Cowboys.
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: But I want to be careful because I again when
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: we talked and started the segment.
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: Anything you put out there about Dak goes viral.
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying that the fact that these two sides
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: haven't talked is a bad thing. I fully anticipate that
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: this deal is going to get done, but I think
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: it's going to be closer to August. Now that might
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: make you scratch your head, right because you've got the draft,
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: and if he's not the future of your franchise, wouldn't
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: you want to, I don't know, draft a quarterback, elevate
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: Trey Lance, figure out what you're going to do with
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: maybe Kirk Cousins, maybe one of those guys out there.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: But that's just not the Cowboy way. I think most
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: sides know that this thing is going to get done. Guys,
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: it's just Todd France and the cow Boys. If you
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: go back to the deal that they had last time, Man,
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: this thing got interesting, and remember this one seems like
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: it happened at the last hour. But Todd France and
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: Dak Prescott got exactly what they wanted. Essentially, they wanted
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: a shorter deal so they could do what they're trying
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: to do right now, maximize the ap y, and they
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: also got included in that short term deal a no
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: trade clause and a no franchise tag, which is why
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: we find ourselves here. I think that as much as
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: we say, look, DA's got a lot of leverage because
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: of that, I think he's got a lot of leverage,
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: mostly because of his durability. With the exception of two seasons,
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: he has been very durable as a starter. The thing
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: that unfortunately is mudding the waters and making some of
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: those complications with some of the negotiating is the two
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: and five record in the postseason and then those two
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: interceptions against a young Green Bay team at home where
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: we saw fans going to the exits in the fourth quarter.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: So obviously that was frustrating. But you've got to put
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: some pieces around Dak. I think, namely the running back
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: situation has got to get addressed, and then you've got
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: to figure out what you're going to do with Ceedee
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: Lamb's contract, because I think we all know an extension
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: for him is going to be a costly one, and
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: I see him being a priority for the future and
• 32:13
  Speaker 7: figuring out what they're going to do with him moving forward.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I would just get this deal done as fast as possible, guys.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, you live at that sixty million if it's
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: free agency, which you're saying, Jane, right, no, tag none
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of that. The number is going to be just as
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: big anyway, if not bigger. You look at his age.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: You look at the other quarterbacks this offseason that are
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: going to be getting deals. None of them were runner
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: up for the MVP this past season, are going to
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: be in that right at the beginning of their thirties
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: where they could be hitting free agency. It's just, man,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: this is just a wild one to watch as everybody
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: just kind of sits on their hands apparently a little bit.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Another spot that we want to look at, Jane is
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: behind Dak Prescott the running back situation. You look what
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: they did with tagging Tony Pollard and you look at
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: kind of the lack of run game that they had
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: as the season went on. What is in your mind
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: do you think is going to be the greatest path
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: for them to get back on track running the football.
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: Well, I think that they need to go in there
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: and get a big bodied veteran, right, And you do
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: have guys like Derreck Henry. They're out there, Austin Eckler,
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: DeAndre Swift. There's a lot of free agents running backs.
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: We've seen them become devalued in recent years. I always
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: just laugh when I think about when they're going through
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: those contentious contract talks with Ezekiel At a couple years back,
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: I was told by a source, we don't believe that
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Zeke deserves Todd Gurley type money. And I bring this
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: story up a lot because I remember Todd Gurley was
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: done shortly after that, and then they sort of regretted
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: what they were paying to Zeke in these remaining years.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: And of course then they released him and they wanted
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: Tony Pollard to be the heir apparent. Well, Tony Pollard
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: had his lowest yards per Carrie. He was not as
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: productive as they had wanted him to be. Rico Daddle
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: and the guys behind him, Malik Davis, they didn't really
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: do much. And so they're allowing Rico Daddele and Tony
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: Pollard to go out and test the market.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that
• 33:58
  Speaker 7: maybe Pollard could come back on a reduced salary. But
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: I never thought that he was, you know, the number
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: one guy. And I say that because of so many
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: people that I talk to, a lot of people really
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: truly believed why not bring Zeke back on a you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: a smaller deal.
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: Let him be a third down back, not in every
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: down back.
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: Now, I'm told they're very high on Jonathan Brooks, the
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: Texas guy that of course has a Texas alum, I'm
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: very familiar with guys. He would be a you know,
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: round two guy for them to target. He's going to
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: be one of their thirty visits. So that's someone that
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: they're high on and at least gives you a sense
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: of where they're prioritizing picking a running back in the draft.
• 34:36
  Speaker 7: But I think that running back room just in general
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: is going to look completely different. And then even if
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: they go and get running backs guys, we haven't seen
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: much from Mike McCarthy in his office to suggest that
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: he's going to run the ball. He's promised that every
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: year that he's been here, and they've sort of moved
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: away from it, and you can understand what they do
• 34:52
  Speaker 7: at times. Right, you've got guys like now Brandon Cooks
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: and you've got Ceedee Lamb. But I think that's going
• 34:58
  Speaker 7: to be a very interesting one to watch. Derreck Henry
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: does work out here in Dallas at Sanders Spitt. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: think he would love to be part of the Cowboys.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: But we'll just see what that number looks like. As
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: the Cowboys always say, they've got only certain pieces of
• 35:12
  Speaker 7: the pie.
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: So it's gonna be interesting to see how this works
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: and if the Cowboys are in fact going to.
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: Go all in, guys, because some of the moves that
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: they've made this year don't give us a lot of
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: confidence that they are. Because if they work, they get
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: this dat Prescott thing figured it out sooner rather than later.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's a company might not be able
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: to offer twelve million dollars to Saquon Barkley or something
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: like that because Dak's not done. Jamie got about forty
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: seconds here startin gi rid of Tyron Smith is the
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: superstar left tackle, but it's definitely gotten up there in age.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: How could the Cowboys address the offensive line to enhance
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: that run game and to protect Dak a little bit better.
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: Look, I think for some people it's probably surprising that
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: they're moving on from Tyron Smith, but you know, we
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: saw them at right tackle last year because of the
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: success that Tyler Smith was having over there. They've done
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: a good job at drafting offensive lineman. I tell you,
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: if the Cowboys were smart, they draft another offensive lineman
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: in the first round. Every time they draft a offensive
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: lineman in the first round, it tends to work out
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: pretty good for them. And examples that I would use
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: Zach Martin, Travis Frederick, and Tyron Smith. I do think
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of depth for the offensive line in
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: the draft this year, so let's see where they go
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: and move there. But they have been able to get
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: by without Tyron Smith unfortunately here in recent years, and
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: I think that's been part of the equation as to
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: why they're moving on here.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable. I would say a fascinating offseason, Jane, for the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, but I think it's like every off season
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: is a fascinating off season. But I might put this
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: one right at the top with the way they're playing
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: this staring game with Dak Prescott and Todd France. Jane,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Wonderful to have you.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: We'll have you multiple times before we get to the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: draft here. On the NFL report coming up, Mark Ross
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: is going to join us, who was one of those
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: guys standing on the field watching the Underwear Olympics. Steve,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: what does he think about measurements in terms of speed
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: in these drill compared to just maybe a guy's a
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: football player. We'll break all that down during the draft
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of valuations that happen in team rooms. Next on the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: NFL Report.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to the NFL Report, Steve White,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: James Palmer JP. We're now joined by Mark Ross, the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: former front offs executive with the Eagles with the Giants,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: also was on the field at the combine last week,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: and give us a bird's eye view. Mark. We've got
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff we want to hit you about.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're covering a lot of bases. But I
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: want you to go back when you're wearing your Armani
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: suits in the front office. You still wear your Armani
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: suits when you're wearing him in the front office. And
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: we've seen already this week, eight players get franchise tag,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: one player get transition tagged. What goes into the decision
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: to tag a player versus extending him or letting him walk.
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: Well, ideally you do want to extend him, Steve and James,
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: I mean that's your goal, is that you draft the
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: good players, and you want to have as many good
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: players as possible, and then you don't want to get
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: to this point.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: With your your cap guy and with your.
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: Head coach and your owners and your front office staff.
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: You're saying, Okay, who are the let's identify these players
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: we know we want to have around and try to
• 38:18
  Speaker 9: get to that extension a year or two early and
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: make things work. When you get to this point, you
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: haven't made it work for one reason or another. So
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: you know, ideally, I think all of these teams that
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: just tag their guys they would rather have had extensions
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: done with them and say, you know, we want you
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: here for the long haul. Now there are times where
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: you tag a guy it's like we'll bet on yourself.
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: Let's see what it gets to at that certain point.
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: We need another year to see what it is or now.
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: More so, I think this year has been a ton
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: of them, you know, where it's almost like a holding
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: a holding spot for Okay, well let's just put this
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: on here. Now we couldn't get to where we wanted
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: to go. Now this buys us more time to get
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: something done with our guys. So a lot of different
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: variables guys, but ideally, you know, you don't want to
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: be at this point if you're any of these teams, Mark.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I want to stay there real quick. Because you said
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of different variables. How much does the position
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the player plays come into account when you're looking to
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: make certain tags, and how much does the landscape of
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that position, whether it be the draft or other free
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: agents available play into account when you're trying to figure
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: out if tagging is the right way to go.
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: Well, well, James, you hit on all that. For people
• 39:30
  Speaker 9: to know that they're different positions, get different number, you know,
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: they get tagged depending on what it is there. That's
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: why Michael Parson's got designated, you know, linebacker versus d
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: n they're the difference and the money there. But yeah,
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: you always have to look at that and say, all right,
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: are we willing to let this guy walk? And okay,
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: let's look at whether we tag this guy or let
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: him go. What's the free agent market looking at in
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: the dB spot or versus the draft? And all right,
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: I know we might lose our guy who's Brian Burns,
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: but okay, we'll go get somebody else because it's so
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: robust with the freeze at market or with the draft,
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: so all of that.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Goes into it.
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: And of course there's premier positions of that you want
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: to look at to say, well that receiver or corner
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: is more important than a guard, so we don't want
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: to do that. And you know, also it's where your
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: team is and we're if you're up at the top,
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: you think you've got Super Bowl aspirations and you've got
• 40:25
  Speaker 9: this guy that we got to have them for another
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: year and we're going to make this push, well, then
• 40:29
  Speaker 9: we got to do it. But if you're we're up
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: and coming, we need more assets, we need more cap space,
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: we need more value, then.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: You might let them go and you might not tag.
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: So it's not just the positions, but it's also where
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: your team is and how you're looking on the horizon
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: with maybe some young guys you have on the team
• 40:47
  Speaker 9: as well.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and one thing we're going to see these franchise
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: tag guys if they go to their offseason workouts, if
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: they hold in. Remember, guys don't hold out anymore because
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: the fines are so excessive being there that that's also
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: part of it.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Mark.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Now, let's go back to last week in Indianapolis when
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: you were at the combine and you came up with
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: a fantastic topic that you wanted to discuss. And that's
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the guys who come out and they test, I mean
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: they blow things out of the water. And let's look
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: at some of these dbs, like you know Quinion Mitchell
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: out of Toledo, Right, he's someone who's highly rated, as
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: it is Nate Wiggins out of Clemson busted a four
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: to two eight, right, But how does that compare in
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the evaluation when the tape says like Terry and Arnold
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: out of Alabama who ran a four to five, or
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Ernardo Green out of Florida stage he is a four
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: to four to nine, so blazing fast times, but by
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: today's standards, he's got concrete in his cleats, Like, how
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: do you compare like the guys who blow that testing
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: out of the water versus due to show up over
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: and over again on Saturdays.
• 41:44
  Speaker 9: That's always a big dilemma for scouts. It always has been.
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: Now just the numbers have just gotten so insane guys
• 41:51
  Speaker 9: where a four five, four four nine a few years ago,
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: five sx years ago is like, man, these guys are flying,
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: And as you mentioned, it's like, well, these guys are
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: slow now well though they're not. Those other guys are
• 42:01
  Speaker 9: just just historically fast, and each year they're getting faster
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: and faster, and more and more people are getting trained
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: to run fast and not actually play fast. So that's
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: when scouts really have to take in consideration of are.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: These numbers real?
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: And you mentioned Arnold and Green, guys who are just instinctive, heady,
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: tough football players. When you watch them, really quick, productive,
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: they do all the things you want as a football player. Now,
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: Wiggins and Mitchell, I'm thinking when you watch them, okay,
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: they need a little bit development.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe not as instinctive.
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: They may not have the X factors that the other
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: guys have, but man, here they go and they're running.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: They're blowing this out.
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: So you're betting on do we over do we value
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: the better players who may not have the super workout numbers,
• 42:50
  Speaker 9: or do we value these guys that have this raw
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: super speed jumping ability but need some development on the field.
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: And that's where you have to match up what your
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: scouts are seeing, what your scouts are projecting, and also
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: with your coaching staff. You always have to match up
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: will your staff work with those kind of guys, you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: like a Mitchell and the Wiggins versus you know what,
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: Arnold and Green they step in the door, they don't
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: really have to be coached. They're going to be out
• 43:18
  Speaker 9: there and ball out. They're gonna play fast, They're gonna
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: do everything you want. Whereas the other guys at hey,
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: they need some development. And you really have to be
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: in lockstep the scouting staff and the coaching staff and say,
• 43:28
  Speaker 9: all right, we got this raw prospect. He's going to
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: need some development, maybe need some time. Are you going
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: to work with him? If they say yes, then you
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: bring him in your building. If they say no, are
• 43:37
  Speaker 9: a little bit hesitant. That's where a lot of mistakes happen.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Mark, Mark, can you take us inside these draft rooms
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: that you've been in. I mean, one name jumps out
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: of me because I was following so closely as a
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: beat reporter in Houston when DeAndre Hopkins was coming out
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and he runs a four five seven, And I remember
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: talking to Keenan McCardell about you, who played the position
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: at a brilliant level. He said, oh, he's pigeon toed.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: That's not a great time. But when you actually just
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: put on the tape and a guy is a football player.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: That's usually a term that's used in these meetings. Who
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: usually pounds the table for certain guys? And how hard
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: do you have to do it when the numbers aren't
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: what certain people that value numbers really high aren't there?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: How do you convince everybody by just going at the tape?
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's always a tough thing whenever you like
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: a player and they go do that at the common
• 44:24
  Speaker 9: Oh my goodness, So I learned that early. You remember
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: you remember hand Kwon Bolden. I'll take you one back,
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: even for GA State. When you watch the Pon Bolden play,
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: that guy was the toughest best player on the field.
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: Every time he's stepped on the field, he's throwing it,
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: he's running it, he's returning, he's blocking people. And then
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: he gets out there and runs a four to seven.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Something.
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: Goes to his pro day, I go to his prode
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: and he runs you know, doesn't it runs slow? Again,
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: It's like, oh my goodness. Yet you're the draft. Mean,
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: you're talking about all these things he can do, but
• 44:55
  Speaker 9: everyone's looking like, well he ran four seven. This guy
• 44:57
  Speaker 9: can't play, And you know that's first round talent When
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: you just watched him play. If he never ran, he
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: probably still would have been but okay, he got pushed
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: down to the second round because of that forty time.
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: And you know, it's so when you when you argue
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: with just about talent and routes and hands or whatever
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: that position is versus raw number, you can easily say
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: he's slow by just seeing that number. That's why scouts
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: love the combine and pro day is because you can
• 45:22
  Speaker 9: see that raw number, Whereas on the field it's so
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: subjective to say, no, he actually is fast. So it
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: really is a battle the whole way. And that's when
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: you're a scout. You really have to have conviction. You
• 45:31
  Speaker 9: want to have those scouts with conviction no matter what
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: the numbers say, this guy can ball. It doesn't matter
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: how much he how high he jumps, and how fast
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: he runs on a clock.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I love all this talk about times and stuff because
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Darius Hayward Bay's name just pops into my head to
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: another subject. Gonna pick on Darius.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's just talk about John Ross.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I mean that knows Xavier Worthy's the guy now four
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: two one.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Then you don't want to say, well.
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: Guy's record you meet, he didn't turn out to be
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: a great prayer, happy for worthy at all of that.
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  Speaker 2: But no, John real quick mark about forty forty five seconds.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about the measurables versus being a football player.
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  Speaker 2: How much does that come into play when you're deciding
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  Speaker 2: on the defensive side outside corners versus the slot corner
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  Speaker 2: or the slot safety.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that slot is so important there where you know,
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  Speaker 9: you got to almost be more heady when you're outside.
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  Speaker 9: You know it's not this simple, but hey, just cover
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  Speaker 9: this guy, you know, go run with him pressed, mug
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  Speaker 9: him up.
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  Speaker 1: Where's inside.
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  Speaker 9: There's so many more variables that go into play where
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  Speaker 9: you got to recognize that you gotta be tough in
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  Speaker 9: there too, because that run game is coming at you quicker.
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  Speaker 9: You're usually going up against shiftier sort of inside guys
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  Speaker 9: who are that smart too, So you got to have
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  Speaker 9: that feel are we dropping his zone and by blitzing?
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  Speaker 9: So I think there's just so many more things that
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  Speaker 9: go into that slot position, and it's such a premiere
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  Speaker 9: position now, you know, each year it's kind of got
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: gotten more and more valued of what that guy does
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  Speaker 9: in there, whereas maybe way back you just say, well,
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  Speaker 9: he's just a slot corner. But now I mean the
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  Speaker 9: way teams are throwing the ball. That third spot, that
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  Speaker 9: slot spot could be your premiere position, your premier spot
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  Speaker 9: in your secondary So I mean tremendous with the head
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  Speaker 9: and with the talent right there on the defense for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff, Mark, We appreciate all of this. Inside, we
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  Speaker 2: got to have you back along the way again. So
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to put on your your Armani suit
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  Speaker 2: next time you come on. There you go.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: We gotta have you stories like the Bolden story. Yes,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: well we.
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  Speaker 2: Will, Mark, start start bagging them up when we come back.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: We know our own Brian Baldinger is the most interesting
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: man in the world. So we're gonna find out the
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: NFL team that's equivalent to Baldy, to find out what's
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: gonna be the most interesting team of the off season.
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  Speaker 2: JP and I are gonna be chopping that up next
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: on the NFL Report.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Hey, it's James Palmer and you're listening to the NFL
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Report podcast along with myself and Steve Weisch. But remember,
• 47:54
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• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Find us all of those spots. Welcome back to the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve weisch with you as we
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: close things out. We've been missing our old pal, Brian Baldinger,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: who's just been somewhere on the planet Earth. You won't
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: tell us where. And he's the most interesting man in
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: the world, is Steve alluded to earlier. Most interesting team
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: this offseason, Steve will be who in your life?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I've got to I've got the Washington Commanders and the
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders right the Commander's second overall pick. They've
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: got about ninety million dollars to spend in free agency JP,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: They've got an opportunity to turn this round quickly. The
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Raiders have nearly fifty million. But what are they going
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: to do at quarterback? What are they gonna do with
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: some of their key positions as their defense rounded out
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: last year? I am really intrigued to do because I
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: think these are two teams you'll be talking about beyond
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: the offseason if they get it right.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: And those are two teams that need a quarterback, I'll
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: talk to a team that's got a lot of cap space,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the fifth most in the NFL right now, and has
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: a quarterback in Kyler Murray. How about the Arizona Cardinals.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I love six in this draft, seven in the top
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  Speaker 1: one oh five, and they have fifty six million dollars
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: to play within that fourth overall pick. I love how
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Lance talked about. They could be a really interesting spot, Steve.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: If it doesn't happen with quarterbacks one two three, they
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: can trade back still get the receiver that they're still
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: maybe possibly looking for because of this deep wide receiver draft,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and accumulate more draft capital. I am watching what Ozzie
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: is doing there. That's what I want to see. What
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: monte Asin Ford is doing, That's what I want to see, Steve.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, Look, next week, we only have one show
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: because Monday is the kickoff of the free agency legal
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: tampering period, So we're only going to be on Thursday,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about those free agency signings. JP.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: We're gonna be canning balling off the fifty foot cliff
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: with several guests to talk about the moves that the
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: team made. So until then, I expect you to join
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Ian Rapidford on the golf course and to knock a
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: couple in from the sixth hole. You next week, I won't.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I'll be on the ski slopes.