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Driverless Cars in L.A | Tourism Industry is Waking Up · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel Show
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  Speaker 1: on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Neil Saavedra. KFI AM 640 live everywhere on the
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  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Good Monday morning to you, Neil Saavedra and
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  Speaker 2: the morning crew here. You know, Waymos are everywhere now
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  Speaker 2: in my part of town. I see them all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I know Amy and I live fairly close to each other.
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  Speaker 3: They.
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  Speaker 2: everywhere amy they're and more and more you can go
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  Speaker 2: to other locations uh i took two the other day
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  Speaker 2: uh to get out to the lucas museum and uh.
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  Speaker 4: You had to take two like you had to get
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  Speaker 4: out and then get back in no no.
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  Speaker 2: I took two meaning i took one there and i
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  Speaker 2: took one home oh okay uh you know just la
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it's easier not have to deal with parking even
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  Speaker 2: if they have parking at places But they say that
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  Speaker 2: Waymo reported 219 crashes in Los Angeles County in 2025,
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  Speaker 2: more than triple its 69 in 2024. 186 more have
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  Speaker 2: been reported so far this year. So, you know, Handel
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  Speaker 2: and I are very similar on this one, and that
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  Speaker 2: is that I think it's important technology and it's going
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  Speaker 2: to ultimately improve. I take note of it when I
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  Speaker 2: see something happening around a Waymo, and the vast majority
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  Speaker 2: is not the Waymo. It's human drivers around the Waymo
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  Speaker 2: trying to get around it and confusing it, doing things,
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  Speaker 2: driving like they do, which is problematic. It is trial
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  Speaker 2: and error right now. It is the beginning of this technology.
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  Speaker 2: We have to be patient. These, with rare exception, like
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  Speaker 2: the one in San Francisco that was horrific, it killed someone,
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  Speaker 2: I believe a woman and her dog. The vast majority
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  Speaker 2: of these are not damaging to, they haven't harmed anybody.
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  Speaker 2: We got to keep that in mind as these things
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  Speaker 2: continue to roll out as they ultimately, I believe, will
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  Speaker 2: save people and have better eyes than we do and
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  Speaker 2: better stopping time than we do. But we have to
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  Speaker 2: let them continue to roll out. Handel is out this
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  Speaker 2: week and will be back next week, back from his safari.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I love, one of the things I love
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  Speaker 2: about traveling is the different smells. I mean, culture and
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  Speaker 2: everything like that is, different and in you go into
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  Speaker 2: a hotel and they smell fresh and inviting and maybe
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  Speaker 2: they even have right there where you check in they
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  Speaker 2: have the big water vessel with oh my gosh could
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  Speaker 2: you imagine sliced cucumbers and ice in it and you
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  Speaker 2: just get yourself a glass and it's a wonderful experience
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  Speaker 2: right well Not if they have some fragrance wafting in
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  Speaker 2: their hotel lobbies, apparently, because there are lawsuits starting to
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  Speaker 2: pop up. So hotels, as they increasingly use what they
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  Speaker 2: refer to as their signature scent. It's part of shaping
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  Speaker 2: their brand. Now the brand is the music that's being played.
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  Speaker 2: The brand that, have you guys noticed that when you
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  Speaker 2: walk into the station now, you walk into the bottom
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  Speaker 2: floor there of iHeart in Los Angeles, there's a light
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  Speaker 2: music that plays.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, this morning it was this really cool music. It
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  Speaker 4: felt like I was at a spa.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny enough, it's the same, similar music, as they
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  Speaker 2: have playing in Waymo's.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they definitely don't want to be playing, you know, acid,
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  Speaker 3: acid rock, heavy metal.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of ethereal and welcoming and all those things. Well,
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  Speaker 2: part of those signatures are now moving over to scents
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  Speaker 2: and smells. When you walk into a lobby, I, I have, um, uh,
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  Speaker 2: very intense sensitivity to certain scents and complex chemical compounds.
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  Speaker 2: So even natural ones, like, although mostly it's the ones
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  Speaker 2: that are manufactured, but like lavender is supposed to make
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  Speaker 2: people relax. It makes me tense. The smell of lavender
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  Speaker 2: makes me tense. It's really weird. I just have a
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  Speaker 2: reaction to it. I'm deathly afraid of, or deathly allergic
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  Speaker 2: to animal dander. And I can tell, like, I can't
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  Speaker 2: go stay at a hotel or at least in the
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  Speaker 2: wing that they allow animals. If they say pet friendly,
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  Speaker 2: I usually skip them or unless they have a place
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't have it because I don't care how they've
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  Speaker 2: cleaned it. If I walk in and I lay on
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  Speaker 2: a bed, I will start having an asthmatic response and
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  Speaker 2: I can get hives and all kinds. It's pretty horrible.
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  Speaker 2: The watery eyes, all of that. So I get it
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  Speaker 2: that we're all different and we all have our limitations
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  Speaker 2: in life. That's okay. But lawsuits for fragrance is where
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  Speaker 2: I have a hard time making an intellectual case. So
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  Speaker 2: you have people with asthma or chemical sensitivities like me.
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  Speaker 2: I actually don't I get asthma when I get those
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  Speaker 2: chemical sensitivities and to fragrances and they can trigger headaches.
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  Speaker 2: They can cause other problems for me, but I would
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  Speaker 2: never sue a hotel alleging that their use of synthetic
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  Speaker 2: fragrances is unfair to people with these sensitivities, nor would
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  Speaker 2: I go to, and this seems to be the case,
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  Speaker 2: would I look into, um, the ADA, the Americans with
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  Speaker 2: Disabilities Act, and use that to start filing these lawsuits,
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  Speaker 2: which is what people do. Now, if you remember, John
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  Speaker 2: and Ken's show way back when, of course, it's the
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  Speaker 2: John Kobelt show now. You can hear them at three.
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  Speaker 2: But back in the day, they took on, what, the
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Law Group or something that was using these ADA
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  Speaker 2: infractions to make massive cases. And Unlike when law enforcement
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  Speaker 2: pulls you out, you get a chippy or something pulling
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  Speaker 2: you over and you have a fix it ticket. They
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  Speaker 2: give you that ticket and say, you got to fix this.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not what happens a lot with the ADA.
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  Speaker 2: Once somebody sees it or experiences it, they sue you
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  Speaker 2: for it rather than saying you've got 30 days to
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  Speaker 2: fix it. And it could be, you know, it could
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  Speaker 2: be a quarter of an inch, half an inch off.
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  Speaker 2: So the fact that people are using, and I think
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  Speaker 2: maybe you have less than reputable law firms that are
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  Speaker 2: using this, the Americans with Disabilities Act, to sue hotels
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  Speaker 2: for having sent different smells in their lobby is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm somebody that reacts to that. I have a shop.
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  Speaker 2: where I make things, and I have meters that read
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  Speaker 2: the air in there for VOCs and different irritants to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that I am not inhaling things that I
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  Speaker 2: should not be inhaling. I get it. I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: But when it comes to things like that to affect
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  Speaker 2: the joy of someone, this is not smoking to me.
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  Speaker 2: Smoking is different. Smoking, you can inhale things that are
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  Speaker 2: actually chemically bad for you, whereas a scent, if it's
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  Speaker 2: bothering you because it bothers you, to me, that's different. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: I don't find any sort of purpose to smoke in
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  Speaker 2: any way, shape, or form. I've never understood that at all,
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  Speaker 2: even though Kono thinks it looks cool. I don't understand
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  Speaker 2: the purpose of it. And you can get secondhand smoke
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  Speaker 2: and it can harm you. But when it's a Like,
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  Speaker 2: for instance, I had an ice cream cone years ago
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  Speaker 2: at a place in LA that used rose water. I
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  Speaker 2: don't mind smelling rose. Rose is great. But rose water,
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  Speaker 2: I have an allergic reaction to. I didn't sue the place.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't freak out. I didn't, you know, if I
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  Speaker 2: was more in tuned with what was in it, I
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  Speaker 2: would have caught it myself. But there's, unless you have
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  Speaker 2: a violent, a true violent reaction, That I think sometimes
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  Speaker 2: using the ADA that was meant for people with severe
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  Speaker 2: or problematic issues, disabilities or different abilities that. that it
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  Speaker 2: was to protect them to be able to get inside
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  Speaker 2: at all or to use a phone booth at the
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  Speaker 2: time or to be able to cook on a cooktop
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  Speaker 2: that they could reach or whatever. Those are real things.
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  Speaker 2: A smell, you know, go to a different hotel that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a smell, but don't sue them. Should they
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  Speaker 2: maybe let you know on the website?
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe there's a sign, but I'm getting really bored with
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  Speaker 2: the fact that we have to have, you know, 50
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  Speaker 2: signs for every building. Every time you walk in somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: it's got all these different descriptors of things that you
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  Speaker 2: have to know. California Act says that they have this
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  Speaker 2: substance that can cause cancer. We're getting to be a
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  Speaker 2: very stupid society to be told every single thing in
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  Speaker 2: our life. Handle is out until next week. And that
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  Speaker 2: brings us to a discussion that, you know, on the
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  Speaker 2: Fork Report. that I host on Saturdays, we've talked about
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  Speaker 2: dining alone and you know, more and more people are
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  Speaker 2: comfortable with dining alone. And I've remember times where I've
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  Speaker 2: dined alone. Morton's was one of those places that I
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  Speaker 2: could go no matter where I traveled to. They had
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  Speaker 2: a Morton's, you know, Washington DC had one Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: And if I was on a trip, for business, I'm
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  Speaker 2: traveling alone usually. And they would have magazines and they'd say,
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  Speaker 2: and they have your name and everything. If you're a
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  Speaker 2: regular visitor, Mr. Svedra, would you like a, I see
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  Speaker 2: that you are going to be dining alone tonight. Can
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  Speaker 2: I start you off with a cocktail or whatever? And
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  Speaker 2: they'd say, could I bring some magazines over? And one
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  Speaker 2: of the coolest things I ever, ever received was one
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  Speaker 2: of the staff coming by and the server and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: do you mind if I make extra stops here just
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  Speaker 2: to make sure that you're good? Because I was dining alone.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, that's a pretty spectacular service. Say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to come by and visit a little more
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  Speaker 2: than normal or something. Well, take that and multiply that
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  Speaker 2: by a thousand, the thought of traveling alone. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't mean just on a business trip. I mean, traveling
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  Speaker 2: alone on purpose. And the tourism industry is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to deal with a massive surge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, a pretty large one, 26% of travelers now
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  Speaker 2: planning to travel alone. And there used to be these stories.
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  Speaker 2: I remember my wife did this. I think she was
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  Speaker 2: 20 something when she got out of college. She spent
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  Speaker 2: weeks and weeks and weeks traveling through Europe by herself.
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  Speaker 2: But she's nuts. She went to Morocco by herself a long,
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  Speaker 2: long time ago when it was not really women didn't
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  Speaker 2: travel through Morocco by themselves.
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  Speaker 4: We just went to Morocco and I wouldn't go travel
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  Speaker 4: by myself.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, when did you go to Morocco?
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  Speaker 4: When we went to Spain.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man, I love Morocco.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love the people, the food.
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  Speaker 4: It was great.
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  Speaker 2: It's just so beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: I still wouldn't do it by myself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people don't think that's very smart.
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  Speaker 2: My wife happens to be a lively spirit, very independent. Well,
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  Speaker 2: used to be. Now we're just parents. But the thought
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  Speaker 2: of that, I like that. I could do that. I
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  Speaker 2: could travel alone. I think about that. Amy, have you
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  Speaker 2: ever been to Disneyland alone?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: No? No.
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  Speaker 2: Do you get to pick up all your rides yourself
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  Speaker 2: and what you eat and when you have to do whatever?
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  Speaker 4: No, to me, Disneyland's a shared experience. And I don't travel.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I go places by myself, but I meet people. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I fly up to see my friends in Portland and
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  Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. But, yeah, I admire Tracy for
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  Speaker 4: doing that. And I have a couple of friends who
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  Speaker 4: have traveled by themselves on pretty big trips. Like, one
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  Speaker 4: went to Germany for a couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And I was so impressed that she did that. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not comfortable doing that.
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  Speaker 2: That is impressive. I think you're right. I think it
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  Speaker 2: is impressive. And I think it takes a particular person,
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  Speaker 2: but more and more people are doing it. Now you've
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  Speaker 2: got the entire industry changing. Just like every time you
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  Speaker 2: wake up and turn anything on, it's talking about protein
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  Speaker 2: right now. You know why it's talking about protein so much?
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  Speaker 2: Because everybody's on GLP-1s. And GLP-1s, you need to pack
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  Speaker 2: that protein on. Otherwise, you're going to lose muscle mass.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same regimen I'm under right now, having had
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  Speaker 2: the bariatric sleeve surgery back in June. Just got to
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  Speaker 2: pack that protein in. So this shift reflects a broader
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  Speaker 2: culture change now. In 2025, you had 39.7 million Americans,
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  Speaker 2: that's 29% of households, lived alone. That's up from 20%
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  Speaker 2: in 1975 alone. So it more and more, I just
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  Speaker 2: got a text from our buddy, Dave Coons from channel seven.
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  Speaker 2: He said one of his favorite trips was a solo trip. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't doubt that. I think that if you, if
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  Speaker 2: you have that constitution in you, if you've have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you like your own company, which I think is
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  Speaker 2: a sign of health, if you like your own company
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  Speaker 2: and spending time with yourself and exploring and being curious,
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  Speaker 2: I think that it's a very healthy thing. But as
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  Speaker 2: the travel industry is adapting, you got the tourist sector
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  Speaker 2: now assuming, you know, it would assume double occupancy is
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  Speaker 2: the default. Well, now they're charging a single supplement. So
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  Speaker 2: when travelers book without a partner, they can get this
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  Speaker 2: single supplement. This is... This now exists because fixed costs,
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  Speaker 2: hotel rooms, things like that, you can get nailed. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm only sleeping for one and I'm only utilizing the one.
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  Speaker 2: So they're looking now, these travel companies are looking to
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  Speaker 2: see if there's a better way to adapt that for
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  Speaker 2: those that are traveling.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's a weird thing. You know, are we getting more
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  Speaker 2: and more away from connecting? We talked about dinner parties tonight,
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  Speaker 2: how dinner par today, rather how dinner parties at night
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  Speaker 2: have gone the way of the Dodo bird. We've talked
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  Speaker 2: about Waymo's, which don't have a driver to talk to.
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  Speaker 2: It's like more and more, we're getting more separated from
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  Speaker 2: each other. I suppose. Want to remind you it's time
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  Speaker 2: for Dodgers playoff baseball tomorrow. You're back-to-back world champion Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: Take on the Braves in Atlanta for game three of
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  Speaker 2: the National League Division playoffs with first pitch at three.
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  Speaker 2: on your schedule. The Home Depot Pro. It's about time.
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  Speaker 2: Love me some Home Depot. Probably hit it up today.
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  Speaker 2: Also want to remind you if you are a senior
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  Speaker 2: going to the senior day at the Aquarium of the
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  Speaker 2: Pacific today, I would love to shake your hand. The tickets,
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  Speaker 2: I think, are already sold out, but I will be
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  Speaker 2: there sitting at a table. I think we're doing some giveaways,
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  Speaker 2: and I'd love to shake your hand. So if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to be out there today, please come by and
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  Speaker 2: say hi to me. I'll be the evil egg, the
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  Speaker 2: guy that looks like an evil egg with a hat on.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of look like an evil egg with a
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  Speaker 2: goatee and around. Anywho. Oh, and the black eye. I
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  Speaker 2: have a black eye today, and I cut over my eye.
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  Speaker 2: Long story. Some things never change, I suppose. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: that's a segment. Let's do it. All right, Mr. Beast.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't know who Mr. Beast is, he is
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  Speaker 2: massive on YouTube. He's worth a ton of money. He
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  Speaker 2: gives away a lot of money, a lot of philanthropy
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  Speaker 2: as well. I've seen him multiple times on YouTube, but
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  Speaker 2: he's a phenomenon. Well, he's partnered with James Patterson, of course,
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  Speaker 2: the author, to persuade young people to read more. So
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  Speaker 2: they have a new collaboration. The name of the book
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  Speaker 2: is called The Most Dangerous Game And it is a
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  Speaker 2: book that is specifically designed to hook young readers. And
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I think that's fantastic. Finding a desire
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  Speaker 2: to read is important. And I know some kids just don't.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you probably looked at the numbers, girls
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  Speaker 2: are probably more apt to want to read when they're
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  Speaker 2: younger than boys. And I think finding that engagement is
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  Speaker 2: a really neat thing so this is to get young
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  Speaker 2: people to read and early reports say that it is
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  Speaker 2: sparking interest there's a lot of kids online uh with
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  Speaker 2: snapshots and the like like of them reading this and
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  Speaker 2: it seems that james patterson one of the best-selling thriller
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  Speaker 2: authors in history uh teamed up with the creator mr
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  Speaker 2: beast uh whose name i had no idea was jimmy
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  Speaker 2: donaldson You could not find a more generic name than that.
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  Speaker 2: But they wrote The Most Dangerous Games. It was published
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  Speaker 2: on the 1st, so it's out now. Book is blending
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  Speaker 2: everything you love about Patterson, fast-paced, high-stakes, thriller, all those things,
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  Speaker 2: with Mr. Beat's pop culture appeal. It's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: like a book that both adult readers and kid readers
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  Speaker 2: would love. And the goal was to create a story
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  Speaker 2: that could be, you know, the first book that they
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  Speaker 2: ever read that they loved for young readers.
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  Speaker 1: And Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Beast's goal was to make reading fun, offering this great
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  Speaker 2: narrative that's engaging, that's gripping, that's kind of based on
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  Speaker 2: the way he paces his videos. And that his whole
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  Speaker 2: thing is to hook you to the end of it
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  Speaker 2: and make you engaged. And what a better way to
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  Speaker 2: capture young folks Because the truth of the matter is
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  Speaker 2: most of the conversations we've had this morning, most of
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  Speaker 2: the stories we've talked about this morning have been based
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  Speaker 2: on changes and adaptations to new wants and desires. And
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  Speaker 2: books aren't old because it's an old method and medium
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  Speaker 2: of importing ideas, storytelling, and all of that. It's old
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  Speaker 2: because the styles have not changed maybe. And Mr. Beast being,
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  Speaker 2: and any of these YouTubers that I watch, and some
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  Speaker 2: of them I do, I like different types than that.
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  Speaker 2: That's not my. if I watch MrBeast, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be because I'm sitting with my nine-year-old and he's interested
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  Speaker 2: in it. But I like YouTube as it is engaging
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  Speaker 2: for learning. I'm a really curious dude and I like
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  Speaker 2: learning stuff any chance I get. So I watch a
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  Speaker 2: lot of them that way, but they pace different, these
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: YouTube videos, different presenters or content creators, rather, they keep
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you hooked from the thumbnail throughout the entirety of it
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: because they have to. They too are a slave to
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the algorithm and trying to find a balance of great content,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: but also pulling you along through the narrative, the story
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that's going on and giving you a great picture. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: so I think that young people do like quicker pacing.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I see my son watching things sometimes and I'm like, dude,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: slow down. Slow down. Because my biggest fear is that
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: he's going to get in that kind of snap frame
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: of wanting things so quickly. However, there's also on the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: flip side of that, a natural change in the brain
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and how the brain accepts information because he was brought
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: into this world where screens already existed. Computers were normal.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Streaming was normal. Having no commercials was normal, even though
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: most of the streaming services that promised us that in
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the beginning have now gone back to commercials on these
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: streamers or you have to pay another tier. So putting
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: these things together is Pretty fascinating. The content hook in this,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the plot is focused on this $ 1 billion global competition,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: but it's in dangerous environments. And this plays off of Mr.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Beast and the things that he does, because a lot
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: of them are these competitions and things are challenges. Challenges
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: are real big on social media and YouTube and the like,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: but they're in these dangerous environments. And this is to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: capture young people in the digital age, the digital world,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: capture their attention, extra engagement. The launch included a real-world
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: 1 million skill-based contest tied to the book. And the
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: clues for that were hidden inside. And think about it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: That's engaging. That is engaging. There is, gosh, I don't
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: know if it's an attorney that puts the money up,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: but there is someone in the Southland on Instagram that
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: hides wads of cash, if you haven't seen this, massive
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: wads of cash in local areas. So what they'll do
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: is it's a hyper-focused close-up on the cash being put
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: into a container somewhere underneath a streetlight or a trash
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: can or something. And then it pulls back for a minute.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: As it pulls back, you have just a quick second
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: or so to look at the surroundings and guess where
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: it is and go out. And then it will tell you,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: someone waits there until someone finds it, and they'll tell
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you whether it was found or not. And it's fascinating.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But that is kind of capturing that energy in a book.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I'll be curious. The book, again, is named The Most
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Dangerous Games. It's written by Mr. Beast, a.k.a. Jimmy Donaldson,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and James Patterson, best-selling thriller author. All right, stick around.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: You've got Gary and Shannon coming up fresh off Friday's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: show of all the beautiful air acrobats and the likes
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: they were watching. It was a really fun show to
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: listen to on Friday, and I'm sure they'll talk a
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: little bit about that when they come back in moments
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: from now. I'll catch you tomorrow morning at 6 right
• 23:51
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