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Whitehall City Councilman discussion and your calls · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Continuing to discuss, at least for the moment, this white
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  Speaker 1: Hall situation. The city councilman that survived to vote to
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  Speaker 1: remove him after having the legal fingers pointed at him,
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  Speaker 1: the accusations that he has defiled, molested the children, young
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  Speaker 1: boys eight they say, as far back as nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 1: They say. He was arrested and released the next day
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  Speaker 1: on his own recognisance. They say, because the prosecutor couldn't
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  Speaker 1: make the case in front of the judge, and the
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  Speaker 1: prosecutor said the police department in Whitehall didn't provide them
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  Speaker 1: with information so that they could make that case. There's
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  Speaker 1: been no grand jury investigation that any of us have
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  Speaker 1: heard of, no indictment from the grand jury, and a
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  Speaker 1: known history of this council and not getting along with
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  Speaker 1: the mayor and apparently actually calling for an investigation into
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  Speaker 1: the workings of the City of Whitehall. Maybe it's time
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  Speaker 1: we take a step back and ask where's the process?
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  Speaker 1: What if? What if this is all political and just
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  Speaker 1: an attempt to assassinate the character and remove this guy
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  Speaker 1: from the mix because he's a pain in somebody's butt.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that is the case, but what if
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  Speaker 1: what if if it is, I owe him a great,
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  Speaker 1: big apology because I was ready to hang in the
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  Speaker 1: first night the story came out. I'm not lying, honor, cherish,
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  Speaker 1: protect the children. I should have that made into a
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  Speaker 1: flag and hang it in front of my house because
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  Speaker 1: that is the primary rule of our existence as far
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  Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. A two one nine eight eight six. Jennifer,
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  Speaker 1: you are on six ten ul U TV and thanks
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  Speaker 1: for hanging in there.
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  Speaker 2: Hi.
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  Speaker 3: So I just wanted to make a comment, maybe two
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  Speaker 3: of them. First of all, I had read something about
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  Speaker 3: that he could not stay for the remainder of the
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  Speaker 3: council meeting because there were concerns raised that there were
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  Speaker 3: children in the room, and that his one of his
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  Speaker 3: conditions for the release was that he did not have
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  Speaker 3: contact with children, so he left the meeting. So I
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  Speaker 3: also wonder if these children were in the room, placed
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  Speaker 3: there on purpose so that he would have to leave.
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  Speaker 1: That is an excellent question, Jennifer. I'm glad to hear
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  Speaker 1: that your mind is working.
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  Speaker 3: And second of all, as a prior employee of that city,
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  Speaker 3: it's the buddy system there, and if you're not in
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  Speaker 3: the clique, then you're out, So you know, I can
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  Speaker 3: see from one standpoint what I've seen on comments of
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  Speaker 3: various things on Facebook, where you know, this is a
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  Speaker 3: you know, a setup and whatever else by the chief
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  Speaker 3: and by the mayor and whatever. I can see where
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  Speaker 3: that could possibly be true. However, just like you, it
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  Speaker 3: is true. Yes, he needs to be in jail. However,
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  Speaker 3: I think it needs to play out. The whole nineteen
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  Speaker 3: ninety six thing. Does not make sense that things were
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  Speaker 3: not charged earlier. I mean, if he's lived there his
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  Speaker 3: whole life, that just does not make sense. So anyways,
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  Speaker 3: that's I just wanted to call in and give a
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  Speaker 3: couple of comments.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer. It sounds to me like, whether it's through experience
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  Speaker 1: or instinct, that you and I are on exactly the
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  Speaker 1: same page. You're saying, there's some possibilities that there's some
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  Speaker 1: foul in the fish in Denmark right now.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling up, and I appreciate the fact
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  Speaker 1: that that you have that intimate knowledge. Thanks very much
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  Speaker 1: for being out there eight two one nine at eighty
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  Speaker 1: six A two one WTV. And you know I this again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not casting expersions on on anybody. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: the mayor did anything. I'm not saying the police chief
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  Speaker 1: did anything. What I'm saying is nothing that I would
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  Speaker 1: expect to have been done to lead us to this
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  Speaker 1: point has been made evident. And would you not would
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  Speaker 1: you not consider that one of your first priorities in
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  Speaker 1: a case like this, you're going to arrest openly, blatantly, loudly,
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  Speaker 1: and all over the media, a member of your city council.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't you be ready to hold the press conference and
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  Speaker 1: say here's what we got? And Jennifer mentioned the removal
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  Speaker 1: of the children from the council chambers. I'll be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, I kind of chuckled when I heard that,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a sick chuckle because I'm thinking, in
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  Speaker 1: open council chambers, is this man that dangerous? Or is
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  Speaker 1: everyone else in the room that incompetent?
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  Speaker 3: What are you?
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  Speaker 1: Are you scared he's gonna come down off the dais
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  Speaker 1: and grab a kid and go running out the door.
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  Speaker 1: He's a big boy, He's not running. That was honestly,
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  Speaker 1: that seemed like something done for show. Did did you
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  Speaker 1: see that? Zach?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see it, But the way that you got
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  Speaker 2: you and the call are describing it. Jennifer that sounds ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like something that is done for show. And
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer brought up another interesting point. What if those kids
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  Speaker 1: were brought in there just specifically for that reason. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure if they were there for anything else, if
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  Speaker 1: they were speaking or representing or receiving an award or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. But if you're in open council chambers
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  Speaker 1: and you're worried that you couldn't protect if he becomes
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  Speaker 1: some you know, mister Hyde to the Doctor Jekyll that
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at at the moment, and goes after nobody
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  Speaker 1: in that room could stop him. Sorry, just again, seems
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  Speaker 1: seems like more show than substance to me, Steve, you
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  Speaker 1: are on sixth NA ETV at high.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Jack, Hey, I'm I'm pretty much with you with
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  Speaker 2: As far as when I first heard about this, I
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  Speaker 2: was pretty much like Fryan Just I mean, death penalty.
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  Speaker 1: I was too, because you don't think they're going to
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  Speaker 1: make a big production and say one positive and all
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff unless they know they've got him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the more I started hearing about it,
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  Speaker 2: and unfortunately it's been the mainstream media is where I
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  Speaker 2: hear most of it, but some of the things that
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  Speaker 2: I heard was, I think you mentioned that he was
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  Speaker 2: opposed to the mayor or wanting some investigations. I think
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  Speaker 2: I had heard that he also wanted investigations in the
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  Speaker 2: police chief Crispin. And if you've been paying attention to
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  Speaker 2: Brian Steele or Officer Badger, both of them have brought
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  Speaker 2: up several issues with Chief Christen, and I think that
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  Speaker 2: council member was also supporting uh investigations into the police chief.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I've kind of opened up my mind
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  Speaker 2: since then, I'm like, hang on, wait a second, we
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  Speaker 2: need to let this process play out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Steve, if it turns out that this is a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of made up, fictitious bs in an attempt to
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  Speaker 1: accomplish something political, you can come in here and have
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  Speaker 1: a big bowl of crow with me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well that we'll just meet over at l EPD
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  Speaker 2: and we can all join together with Eric and John.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because you know Eric keeps crow and the
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  Speaker 1: refrigerator at all times. You take care, buddy, Thanks very
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  Speaker 1: much for the call. Eight two one, nine eighty six
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  Speaker 1: is the number, Jerry, you are on six to ten
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  Speaker 1: WTV and Hello.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, I'm a resident of Whitehall, and I've had a
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  Speaker 4: brief encounter with Gerald Dixon. He's been a kind of
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  Speaker 4: a thorn in Whitehall's side whenever they've harassed citizens of Whitehall.
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  Speaker 4: So whether he's guilty or not, I think we need
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  Speaker 4: to hold off judgment and let the investigations play out.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry, you've got a great perspective. You live there, and
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  Speaker 1: you live this life that's going on around you right
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  Speaker 1: now on all this media coverage. Let me ask you this,
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  Speaker 1: Were you of that same mindset on the first night
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  Speaker 1: or did you feel like they must really have him?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 4: I you know, whenever we've had we got so many
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  Speaker 4: pedophiles nowadays and stuff like that. I did. I did
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  Speaker 4: probably lean a little bit more to that whether they
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  Speaker 4: got him or not. I kind of thought maybe he
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  Speaker 4: was into that. But you know, as things have kind
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  Speaker 4: of played out a little bit and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 4: it was part of my thought that this could be
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  Speaker 4: a form of harassment.
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  Speaker 1: It does It didn't sound out of the question, does it?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: Well, like I said, you could are we either way?
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  Speaker 4: But like I said, we don't know. Pedophiles don't tell
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  Speaker 4: you who they are, so therefore you have to wait
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  Speaker 4: and let things play out. But I do know that
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  Speaker 4: probably about ten years ago, Whitehall was harassing me over
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  Speaker 4: a minor incrusion and stuff like that, and Gerald was
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  Speaker 4: one to come and try to find out what the
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  Speaker 4: situation was about.
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  Speaker 1: How long has he served on council? Was this just
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  Speaker 1: the end of his first term?
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  Speaker 3: That?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I didn't, like I said, my encounter
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  Speaker 4: with him was really kind of brief and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: He had just kind of come over and kind of
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  Speaker 4: gave me read me a few stories where Whitehall had
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  Speaker 4: harassed a few other people and stuff like that. And
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  Speaker 4: somehow I think he found me in court or whatever
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  Speaker 4: and I was complained, so he come over to try
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  Speaker 4: to find out what the full story was all about.
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  Speaker 4: And then he he had kind of told me about
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  Speaker 4: the other complaints and so I kind of think he's
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  Speaker 4: been a thorn in Whitehall side for for quite a
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  Speaker 4: while and stuff like that. Now, whether this is what
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  Speaker 4: the case is now or not, I don't know, But
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  Speaker 4: like I said, I think we need to hold off
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  Speaker 4: our judgment and wait, let's see how things play out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jerry, and I appreciate your call. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: very much, buddy. That and I'm going to I'll reach
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  Speaker 1: out to his office. By the way, right now, he's
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  Speaker 1: in it. I don't have anything to say to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: H Isabelle Hanson over it there at Channel six. Managed
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  Speaker 1: to get a quick interview with him, but he's, you know,
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  Speaker 1: no comment. He's letting this thing play out as it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, going to have to play out, and he's
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  Speaker 1: not doing interviews and things like that. But I will
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  Speaker 1: reach out to the office and just let him know
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  Speaker 1: when you're ready. If that time comes, come on in.
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  Speaker 1: I got a microphone for you. We'll sit down and
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  Speaker 1: talk about it. Benefit of the doubt. You want it
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  Speaker 1: and I want it, and uh, I think considering the
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  Speaker 1: circumstances and everything that has come out and not come
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  Speaker 1: out over the past week, Yeah, it's appropriate here too.
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  Speaker 1: Before I get out of here, I want to let
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  Speaker 1: you go. Colubus City Council objecting the renewal of some
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  Speaker 1: liquor permits as they do half a dozen convenience stores,
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  Speaker 1: mostly at gas stations around the city of Columbus. They
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  Speaker 1: voted on the dock at this past Monday night to
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  Speaker 1: object to the permit renewals for six businesses. City Attorney's
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  Speaker 1: Office and the Columbus Division of Police annually review businesses
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  Speaker 1: with liquor permits that have crime and other issues. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the city can't take away their liquor permits, but they
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  Speaker 1: can tell the Ohio Board of Liquor Control that they
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  Speaker 1: don't believe they should be renewed. The businesses that could
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  Speaker 1: soon lose licenses are the speedway at twenty eight seventy
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  Speaker 1: five Stelles are rowed out by the airport, another speedway
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  Speaker 1: at eleven sixty five South High Street, Marathon twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: oh five West Broad Street. I've only been in that
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  Speaker 1: one maybe three times in my life, and I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what it's There's not a congregation of people out front.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to go through a gauntlet of excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: sirs to get in. It seems to be a clean,
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  Speaker 1: friendly store. I'm very surprised they are on this list.
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  Speaker 1: The other one, I'm very surprised about the BP at
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight hundred Sullivant Avenue. Those guys, man, they go
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  Speaker 1: above and beyond. I mean, I've seen them watch women
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  Speaker 1: to their cars when it's dark outside, if there's somebody
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  Speaker 1: hanging in a lot or whatever. They play classical music
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  Speaker 1: or animal sounds, screeching eagles and stuff on the PA system.
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  Speaker 1: Just to annoy the druggies and the hookers that are
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  Speaker 1: hanging around. They'll come out and get off our lot.
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  Speaker 1: Get away, get away the customers alone. They seem to
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  Speaker 1: police that place for you. And here's the deal. I
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  Speaker 1: know there's several drug houses right around that Marathon on
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  Speaker 1: Broad Street, and the VP on Sullivant that's Hooker Central.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that corner of Hagen's Sullivant. Where's this again,
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  Speaker 1: the hooker Hagan's Sullivant. In fact, it is so bad
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  Speaker 1: that the UDF store at Hagen Sullivan is a marathon store.
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  Speaker 1: Corporate UDF sold their store, not the company. They sold
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  Speaker 1: this store because they were tired of all the shoplifting
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  Speaker 1: and prostitution and druggies hanging out and beggars on the lot.
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  Speaker 1: So United Dairy Farmers sold the store. It's a marathon. Now,
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  Speaker 1: having the police called to those locations isn't necessarily an
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  Speaker 1: indication of the management of those locations, because those people
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  Speaker 1: are all over the place using their drugs and beating
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  Speaker 1: on each other and peeing on the pavement, and that
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  Speaker 1: that is not necessarily an indictment of the store. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's about location, location, location. Maybe at the city worked
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  Speaker 1: a little bit harder at cleaning up the crime on
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  Speaker 1: the streets instead of looking at the criminals as victims.
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  Speaker 1: There wouldn't be anybody there to call nine one about
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  Speaker 1: nine one one, not nine one. If you call nine
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  Speaker 1: to one, nobody answers, just say no. Also on the list,
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  Speaker 1: Buckeye Supermarket at forty four to thirty two Walford Street
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  Speaker 1: and the Shell Station at twenty four to forty one
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  Speaker 1: Lockborne Road may soon be losing their liquor licenses.