Latest / Earn Your Leisure / EYL #14 Homecoming feat. Valencia Clay
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- 1:24Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome back, Welcome back.
- 1:26Speaker 4: We have another monumental episode in store for you, guys,
- 1:30Speaker 4: Episode fourteen, Week fourteen.
- 1:32Speaker 5: We made it.
- 1:33Speaker 4: It's crazy time Fly Soundfly. So before we start. Before
- 1:36Speaker 4: we start, we have to thank you guys for your support,
- 1:41Speaker 4: for your continued support. You know, when we started this podcast,
- 1:43Speaker 4: we don't really have any expectations on how far we
- 1:46Speaker 4: wanted to go, and we didn't really we just wanted
- 1:48Speaker 4: to reach the people. And in fourteen weeks we are
- 1:51Speaker 4: in the top twenty five of iTunes business charts.
- 1:54Speaker 3: We had a Bloomberg Wall Street Journeys. It's crazy, and
- 1:59Speaker 3: we're almost in the time one hundred for all podcasts,
- 2:02Speaker 3: so all categories.
- 2:03Speaker 4: Now, it's encouraging a lot of different levels to see
- 2:05Speaker 4: that the culture so engaged in financial literacy. It's not
- 2:08Speaker 4: like we're talking about sports and we are talking about
- 2:10Speaker 4: sports entertainment, but the financial side of it, right, So
- 2:13Speaker 4: it's just encouraging to see that and we're not you know,
- 2:15Speaker 4: we don't have any ads, we didn't have any training,
- 2:18Speaker 4: we didn't have any publication that wrote about.
- 2:20Speaker 5: Us go to school for this na.
- 2:21Speaker 3: We just started. We just started it. That's it. So yes.
- 2:25Speaker 4: And also, you know, if you guys can use that
- 2:26Speaker 4: as some inspiration too, if you think about just starting anything,
- 2:29Speaker 4: you know, just start, You're gonna figure it out as
- 2:31Speaker 4: you go, right, You're going to figure it out as
- 2:32Speaker 4: you go. But also I wanted to think the people
- 2:35Speaker 4: that you don't see that make this possible.
- 2:37Speaker 3: So we have Larry, we have said, we have Mike,
- 2:40Speaker 3: we have Bam.
- 2:41Speaker 4: Thank you gentlemen, and you know, like I said, you
- 2:45Speaker 4: see me and Joy a lot, but you might necessarily
- 2:48Speaker 4: see the other gentlemen.
- 2:49Speaker 6: They make sure the visuals are good. They make sure
- 2:51Speaker 6: our sound is on point.
- 2:52Speaker 5: So thank you, thank you.
- 2:53Speaker 4: We appreciate you for sure. So we're gonna jump right
- 2:57Speaker 4: into it today. We have a very special guest. So
- 3:00Speaker 4: today's the education episode, so we try to do different
- 3:02Speaker 4: you know topics.
- 3:04Speaker 7: Homecoming.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so it's education, but it's so part of
- 3:11Speaker 4: the education if you go to any school is homecoming, right,
- 3:14Speaker 4: That's like the biggest thing.
- 3:15Speaker 3: That's like the biggest thing. So it's the homecoming edition.
- 3:19Speaker 4: Actually, as we said before, our Baltimore tides run deep,
- 3:22Speaker 4: but this is actually a Greenberg thing.
- 3:25Speaker 5: To the town, to the town, shout out to the town.
- 3:27Speaker 4: So we all are from Greenberg. We have special guests. Valencia.
- 3:34Speaker 5: Let's just call you a member, family member.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Family member of founder Valencia Clay.
- 3:41Speaker 3: I call her Valve, So I'll be calling her valve
- 3:44Speaker 3: throughout the interview. It's just a habit of mine, but
- 3:46Speaker 3: the world.
- 3:46Speaker 4: She's Valencia Dclay and she's about to be doctor Clay,
- 3:49Speaker 4: so she really needs no introduction, but I'll just give
- 3:52Speaker 4: one anyway.
- 3:54Speaker 3: She's a rock star teacher.
- 3:56Speaker 4: She has changed the Court of education, how teachers teach
- 4:01Speaker 4: their classroom. She's given inspirations to millions of people. And
- 4:07Speaker 4: above all that, Rihanna follows her. That's like the highest
- 4:12Speaker 4: level of the only thing that is Beyonce.
- 4:15Speaker 6: So that's that's your biggest was like, I mean, Rihanna
- 4:19Speaker 6: was crazy like she like, but when Jada follows you,
- 4:22Speaker 6: you were.
- 4:22Speaker 7: Like, oh my god, was like amazing, Oh my god,
- 4:26Speaker 7: I died.
- 4:28Speaker 4: Yeah, Rihanna, Jada Holly Berry, she was in Vogue, she's
- 4:32Speaker 4: been on ABC News, NBC, she's working with National Geographics.
- 4:38Speaker 4: She's lit all the way around. So we are honored
- 4:41Speaker 4: to have her. And as I said, it's a Greenberg thing.
- 4:46Speaker 4: She's from Harlem too. But it's a long story. But
- 4:51Speaker 4: for this one, for this purpose is we're just gonna
- 4:54Speaker 4: claim Greenberg. So we're gonna jump right into it. We
- 4:56Speaker 4: got a lot of information to cover on education. A
- 4:59Speaker 4: money play he's behind education how it all talks, because
- 5:01Speaker 4: it all comes back to money. Everything in this society
- 5:04Speaker 4: comes back to money. So yeah, we're gonna we're gonna
- 5:07Speaker 4: jump right into it and let's get it gone.
- 5:09Speaker 7: He val.
- 5:12Speaker 6: I'm just gonna touch on the tutoring thing because that's
- 5:14Speaker 6: like a billion dollar business. I don't think people really understand,
- 5:16Speaker 6: especially when when we were talking about the college scandal,
- 5:19Speaker 6: like parents trying to get their kids into schools. It's
- 5:22Speaker 6: a thirteen billion dollar business. But people are paying for
- 5:24Speaker 6: the preparation for the SAT prep for the counseling. Now
- 5:28Speaker 6: that's a new thing in counseling because the pressure of
- 5:31Speaker 6: trying to.
- 5:31Speaker 8: Take essays right, just that like counseling, that's social emotional.
- 5:36Speaker 8: So people are making money off the social emotional warfare
- 5:41Speaker 8: that is played on us, right, you know, and that
- 5:44Speaker 8: I mean us as everybody, because yeah, let's talk about
- 5:47Speaker 8: test anxiety, school anxiety period. I realized that my students,
- 5:53Speaker 8: they always do my projects late unless we do every
- 5:57Speaker 8: single piece of it together. If I give them something
- 6:00Speaker 8: to do independently this school year, and I'm not gonna
- 6:03Speaker 8: say that I can't fix this because we're gonna keep trying.
- 6:05Speaker 7: I got a whole.
- 6:06Speaker 8: Quarter left, but so far the school year they haven't
- 6:09Speaker 8: been able to turn anything in on time.
- 6:11Speaker 7: Why because it's hard, and that anxiety of feeling like
- 6:14Speaker 7: you can't even do it is so real. It's learned helplessness,
- 6:18Speaker 7: but it's still real. It's still real.
- 6:20Speaker 8: And that all comes from postal radislation syndrome, which is
- 6:25Speaker 8: which is financial literacy that we don't even learn about.
- 6:28Speaker 8: We don't learn about those aspects of what slavery did.
- 6:31Speaker 7: We don't learn about the financial aspects of it. We
- 6:33Speaker 7: don't learn who we were before brown versus bored as cities.
- 6:39Speaker 8: We don't learn these things in school. So it all
- 6:41Speaker 8: goes to curriculum cases.
- 6:43Speaker 5: That's what we start.
- 6:44Speaker 8: But none of our schools are teaching these kinds of
- 6:46Speaker 8: curriculums because that's not on the standardized test. So you
- 6:50Speaker 8: give people a standardized test and you say this is
- 6:53Speaker 8: what you need to do in order to say.
- 6:54Speaker 7: That you are intelligent.
- 6:56Speaker 8: So then you get schools looking at that test saying
- 6:58Speaker 8: I need to teach these things Y and Z only
- 7:01Speaker 8: so that my students will do well in this test.
- 7:03Speaker 7: So that our school can keep its money.
- 7:04Speaker 8: I just read an article in the Post this morning
- 7:07Speaker 8: about a mother in the Bronx she can't get her
- 7:10Speaker 8: five kids into any charter schools in the city. And
- 7:14Speaker 8: then that same publication rode a post that was in
- 7:18Speaker 8: favor in favor of charter schools. So I'm looking at
- 7:23Speaker 8: this post and I'm realizing they're using their platform right now,
- 7:27Speaker 8: in my opinion, to say, look, we need more charter schools.
- 7:31Speaker 8: See how these parents can't get their kids into charter schools.
- 7:34Speaker 8: They're not saying no, we need to figure out how
- 7:35Speaker 8: to put public funding charter funding put.
- 7:39Speaker 7: They're in the public buildings.
- 7:40Speaker 8: Why are they charter schools because it's called that it's
- 7:42Speaker 8: still a public school, but you're getting different money because
- 7:45Speaker 8: somebody else is running it with the same kind of
- 7:46Speaker 8: agenda to pass these standardized tests.
- 7:49Speaker 6: The problem and the problem with the test is it's
- 7:51Speaker 6: like a one size fit to one, but everybody learns different.
- 7:54Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's a business show. So always like to
- 7:57Speaker 4: tie it in the money, and education, like all things
- 8:00Speaker 4: in society, is tied into money. Right, So we take
- 8:02Speaker 4: these tests, like you said, the charter schools versus private schools,
- 8:05Speaker 4: versus public schools, and these are things that the decisions
- 8:08Speaker 4: that parents are making without actually really thinking about it.
- 8:11Speaker 4: They're just doing it right. But ultimately it comes down
- 8:15Speaker 4: to money.
- 8:16Speaker 5: It's money. It's a money issue, right. The standardized test
- 8:19Speaker 5: is a billion dollar issue, and they are.
- 8:21Speaker 7: Thinking about it.
- 8:21Speaker 8: That mother in that article, she said, I don't want
- 8:24Speaker 8: to send my kids to the.
- 8:25Speaker 7: Public schools because their test scores are terrible. Those were
- 8:28Speaker 7: her words in the article. They are thinking about it.
- 8:31Speaker 8: They're thinking about what the oppressor wants them to think about.
- 8:34Speaker 7: They're thinking exactly about test scores. They're thinking about the
- 8:37Speaker 7: stuff that.
- 8:39Speaker 8: We want them to think about, financial literacy, we want
- 8:43Speaker 8: them to think about their history. We want them to
- 8:44Speaker 8: think about how to be innovative, how to become an
- 8:46Speaker 8: entrepreneur when you grow up in some sort of way,
- 8:48Speaker 8: how to become a leader, how to become you know
- 8:51Speaker 8: something more than somebody tells you you have to do
- 8:54Speaker 8: the same thing over and over nine to five robot.
- 8:56Speaker 7: We are we want that.
- 8:57Speaker 8: But these parents that are saying let's send us to
- 8:59Speaker 8: a sent to a charter, they're not realizing that these
- 9:03Speaker 8: test scores are showing everything but what we want.
- 9:05Speaker 7: These test scores are not preparing right.
- 9:09Speaker 6: It's preparing them to pass a test, which in life,
- 9:13Speaker 6: right after you've left college and those SAT scores, it's.
- 9:17Speaker 8: Supposed to prepare them to And if you look at
- 9:19Speaker 8: our babies test scores, it's still shown that they're reading
- 9:24Speaker 8: is at an all time love. And that's what I'm saying.
- 9:28Speaker 8: That's the sense of urgency we have to have. If
- 9:30Speaker 8: we're going to talk about business, then we need to
- 9:33Speaker 8: think about how we rally businesses to make sure that
- 9:37Speaker 8: kids have more.
- 9:38Speaker 7: Of what they need.
- 9:39Speaker 8: And I don't feel like enough businesses are talking about
- 9:41Speaker 8: that are talking about children and schools and reading and
- 9:45Speaker 8: writing and math and science school.
- 9:48Speaker 6: It's like I said, I read an article from the
- 9:50Speaker 6: Brickins Is too and it was just like schools become
- 9:52Speaker 6: a product. It's actual product that they're selling.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Right.
- 9:55Speaker 6: So like when we sell a test to a school
- 9:57Speaker 6: district or state and they buy it, it's like, all right,
- 9:59Speaker 6: everybod he passed this. Now the educator has to kind
- 10:03Speaker 6: of like curtall what they're doing. It's like, you know what,
- 10:05Speaker 6: I have to have these kids pass or I'll be
- 10:07Speaker 6: viewed as ineffective, you know what I mean?
- 10:10Speaker 5: And right now.
- 10:13Speaker 8: My data, my school as a whole our kids did
- 10:16Speaker 8: not move. A lot of our teachers have to have
- 10:19Speaker 8: I'm not going to talk for everybody. I'm telling aout
- 10:20Speaker 8: myself because I know people are listening. I don't let
- 10:23Speaker 8: anybody to feel away. But my data, my data was
- 10:28Speaker 8: only effective, not highly effective. Why because only a certain
- 10:32Speaker 8: amount of my kids grew this year a certain amount
- 10:34Speaker 8: of points I have. We had a goal all kids
- 10:37Speaker 8: had to move this many points by the end of
- 10:39Speaker 8: the year, and if they didn't, we don't get our money.
- 10:41Speaker 8: I don't get a raised next year. I work my
- 10:43Speaker 8: ass off this year and I'm not going to get
- 10:45Speaker 8: a raise because their test scores don't show their test
- 10:47Speaker 8: score that's not the reading, not this, not these things
- 10:51Speaker 8: that I got in this notebook that they know, not this,
- 10:53Speaker 8: not these words. Their standardized test score shows that they
- 10:56Speaker 8: didn't grow. So therefore I am I'm not I'm not
- 11:01Speaker 8: highly effective.
- 11:02Speaker 7: Nope, I'm not.
- 11:03Speaker 8: Like that's that's the money play behind it, because you're
- 11:05Speaker 8: you're you're not understanding. Curriculum dictates what our children learn,
- 11:09Speaker 8: who they become. It dictates who we are, what we're doing.
- 11:12Speaker 8: And this is not a wee as in just teachers.
- 11:15Speaker 8: This is the world because education is the world. How
- 11:18Speaker 8: are you gonna how else could you get here? And
- 11:21Speaker 8: you I, all three of us at this table have
- 11:23Speaker 8: totally different We went to the same schools, granted, but then.
- 11:27Speaker 7: We have totally different educational narratives.
- 11:32Speaker 3: But then also he still ended up in the same place.
- 11:35Speaker 4: So for me, my personal perspective on education is, Okay,
- 11:38Speaker 4: I'm outside because you guys work in schools. You're you
- 11:41Speaker 4: don't like to teach this term teacher, You're an educator,
- 11:44Speaker 4: right right?
- 11:44Speaker 3: Teacher both? Okay, so you're both.
- 11:47Speaker 5: I think the term is when he says you're a
- 11:49Speaker 5: school teacher.
- 11:51Speaker 3: I mean, so, all right, you're both.
- 11:53Speaker 4: You're both educators, and I'm in business, right, I mean,
- 11:56Speaker 4: you're both in business as well on a certain level.
- 11:58Speaker 4: But so the thing about it is, I feel like
- 12:00Speaker 4: my outside experiences have helped me more and even in
- 12:04Speaker 4: sports have helped me more. So I don't feel like
- 12:08Speaker 4: I don't think that what you learn in school is
- 12:10Speaker 4: going to be the key to your success.
- 12:12Speaker 5: Yeah, because let me learn, it doesn't stop in the classroom.
- 12:14Speaker 4: It doesn't stop in the classroom, and you learn way
- 12:16Speaker 4: more outside of the classroom than you ever learned inside.
- 12:18Speaker 6: Of the classroom because life is a teacher twenty four
- 12:21Speaker 6: hours a day, you know what I mean, So like
- 12:22Speaker 6: that's important.
- 12:23Speaker 5: Life is going to be your teacher.
- 12:24Speaker 6: So like when I see Valencia post things, I'm like,
- 12:27Speaker 6: I can see the passion in her.
- 12:29Speaker 5: I know some of those things are not in the
- 12:31Speaker 5: curriculum of Maryland.
- 12:32Speaker 7: My thing is, why is that okay with you?
- 12:34Speaker 4: No?
- 12:34Speaker 3: No, it's not okay. It's not okay that what.
- 12:37Speaker 8: You're saying is true, that we're not learning and what
- 12:39Speaker 8: we need in schools.
- 12:40Speaker 7: So you what's your platform?
- 12:42Speaker 8: Has to keep doing this so that you can that
- 12:45Speaker 8: was We can't sit here and be like, yeah, we
- 12:47Speaker 8: not learning nothing in school. No, we have to knock
- 12:49Speaker 8: the doors down and change that so that the bays
- 12:51Speaker 8: are learning something in school. Because let me tell you
- 12:53Speaker 8: what it looks like when they're wasting their time. It
- 12:55Speaker 8: looks like then when I come in to try to
- 12:57Speaker 8: give them as much as I can, they don't want
- 12:59Speaker 8: it because they're so used wasting their time.
- 13:00Speaker 7: That's what they think they should be doing. That's all
- 13:02Speaker 7: they want to do. That's what they desiring. Now, not everybody,
- 13:05Speaker 7: but this is what's happening to too.
- 13:06Speaker 6: Many because it's like year one grade, right, So by
- 13:10Speaker 6: the time they've gotten to you, they've had years of
- 13:13Speaker 6: people who probably have not reached them. In a sense,
- 13:17Speaker 6: it's like you only can be what you see, right,
- 13:20Speaker 6: So like when they see somebody like you, it's like, wow,
- 13:23Speaker 6: I can imagine the eighth pen that.
- 13:25Speaker 8: Yes, But also you don't understand what it looks like
- 13:28Speaker 8: when you have.
- 13:30Speaker 7: Hard working teachers, well meaning.
- 13:32Speaker 8: That's why I love Cardigi was in chapter three, The
- 13:34Speaker 8: Miseducation of the Ney World, he talks about the well
- 13:36Speaker 8: meaning missionaries that went down south when we were well,
- 13:40Speaker 8: when our ancestors were finally given the right to learn
- 13:43Speaker 8: how to read them write. These well meaning missionaries went
- 13:45Speaker 8: down and they opened the Freedman schools. But they taught them.
- 13:48Speaker 8: What they taught them was not true history true. They
- 13:52Speaker 8: taught them a whitewashed education. This is the same thing
- 13:56Speaker 8: that's happening right now in our schools. You have these
- 13:58Speaker 8: well meaning educators, no matter what color, ethnic background, doesn't matter.
- 14:02Speaker 8: We are all well meaning doing what we are told.
- 14:05Speaker 8: You're right, But as a whole, yet, thank you. That's
- 14:09Speaker 8: why as a whole it looks like this. It looks
- 14:14Speaker 8: like this on purpose though it looks like this on purpose,
- 14:17Speaker 8: and it's scary because if we don't continue to have
- 14:21Speaker 8: these conversations in a way that has a solution for
- 14:25Speaker 8: the children, it's gonna stay the same and the money plays,
- 14:29Speaker 8: these financial podcasts won't mean a thing because if the
- 14:32Speaker 8: babies are not learning, they're gonna keep growing up.
- 14:35Speaker 7: You're gonna keep having the same podcast.
- 14:37Speaker 8: We got to make sure that this is a seed,
- 14:38Speaker 8: but not the end all be all, because the goal
- 14:41Speaker 8: is for us to not need The goal is for
- 14:44Speaker 8: it to be a norm, that financial literacy being your
- 14:48Speaker 8: healthiest money self.
- 14:51Speaker 7: Like you know what I'm saying, You're understanding.
- 14:53Speaker 8: It from a healthy perspective. If you can understand money
- 14:56Speaker 8: from in the same way we understand food in a
- 14:58Speaker 8: nutrition way, nutritious way. If we if we understood our
- 15:01Speaker 8: money in our bank accounts and our finances, we understood
- 15:04Speaker 8: the difference between saving right, if we understood the difference
- 15:08Speaker 8: between spending and investing and the difference between those two words.
- 15:11Speaker 8: If we teach the babies that and it's normal in
- 15:14Speaker 8: their minds, that's that's.
- 15:16Speaker 7: Where we have to go.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Well, it's interested that you said the nutrition thing, because
- 15:19Speaker 4: we don't understand nutrition. No, going back to some of
- 15:21Speaker 4: us majority going back into school, right, like with the
- 15:27Speaker 4: pizza and milk at the lunch and it's like this
- 15:33Speaker 4: is terrible, right, And I was fortunate enough to never
- 15:36Speaker 4: eat school lunch, like my mom packed me lunch every day.
- 15:38Speaker 3: That was very rare.
- 15:40Speaker 5: I remember that.
- 15:41Speaker 4: It's like, looking back on it now, that was such
- 15:43Speaker 4: a blessing that she even took the time because she
- 15:45Speaker 4: knew because it's like everybody else was eating pizza and
- 15:50Speaker 4: and so what if.
- 15:51Speaker 7: We have the moms like your mom who you know,
- 15:54Speaker 7: his mom was his mom?
- 15:57Speaker 8: What if we had more moms going into the community
- 15:59Speaker 8: saying we can't let them feed our babies this, Like
- 16:03Speaker 8: we just there's so much that we have accepted that
- 16:06Speaker 8: we didn't know that we were accepting, or that we
- 16:09Speaker 8: didn't know that there were more options for because there's
- 16:12Speaker 8: so many other priorities that we have.
- 16:13Speaker 7: It's like we can't think about we just have got
- 16:16Speaker 7: school lunch.
- 16:17Speaker 8: Like we don't realize that they're feeding us.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:22Speaker 4: But then once again going back to the money, right,
- 16:24Speaker 4: so these schools have contracts with food vendors, right, with
- 16:28Speaker 4: dairy companies with so it's not like they're not just
- 16:31Speaker 4: getting this food out the star.
- 16:35Speaker 3: It's a million million billion dollar.
- 16:36Speaker 6: Contracts doesn't if we talk about real estate, if we
- 16:39Speaker 6: talk about banking, we talk about school, it all comes
- 16:41Speaker 6: back to money man everything.
- 16:43Speaker 4: And that's the that's the beauty of the podcast because
- 16:45Speaker 4: it's so broad ranging that we can talk about so
- 16:46Speaker 4: many different things. But education is you know, like you
- 16:49Speaker 4: said that, that's like the ground rule of the kids beginning, right,
- 16:52Speaker 4: they go to preschool, they go to kindergarten, they go
- 16:54Speaker 4: to you go to school. And school is is a business, right,
- 16:59Speaker 4: it's a business. College college is a bit business.
- 17:03Speaker 5: We know that. We cover that, so so.
- 17:05Speaker 4: All right, so we talked about some problems, but we're
- 17:08Speaker 4: not this podcast is not a great a cloud or
- 17:11Speaker 4: you know, we're not going to just leave you in gloom.
- 17:14Speaker 4: We're gonna now talk about some solutions and how we
- 17:17Speaker 4: can hopefully change the world. That's what we had to do,
- 17:22Speaker 4: all right, So once again, we're not going to leave
- 17:24Speaker 4: you guys, you know, feeling like there's no hope, because
- 17:27Speaker 4: there's always hope, there's always hoping. That's why we started
- 17:29Speaker 4: this podcast is to inspire people, right and to give inspiration.
- 17:34Speaker 4: That's the most valuable thing. That's the most important thing
- 17:36Speaker 4: that you can ever give some So all right, now
- 17:41Speaker 4: we talked about what's wrong in the education system. But
- 17:44Speaker 4: I know one of your goals now is to one
- 17:47Speaker 4: day be the secretary of Education.
- 17:52Speaker 5: I wrote that down. I have the text.
- 17:55Speaker 6: I was like, wow, like that's super ambitious, Like, let's
- 17:59Speaker 6: do it.
- 17:59Speaker 3: So you heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen, the pressure.
- 18:04Speaker 4: So all right, so that's one of your goals. And short,
- 18:07Speaker 4: like I said, you're you're an educator as well. You
- 18:10Speaker 4: both educated. So we know that money is and it's
- 18:13Speaker 4: a lot of times people say, you know what the
- 18:15Speaker 4: average this is the average person. I'm just gonnakeep it real.
- 18:18Speaker 4: I can't fix it, so I even worry about it. Right, Like,
- 18:20Speaker 4: this thing has been going on for so long. The
- 18:23Speaker 4: school systems are failed. The kids in poor neighborhoods are
- 18:26Speaker 4: not going to get the same education as kids that
- 18:28Speaker 4: go to private schools that live in rich neighborhoods.
- 18:30Speaker 3: It's never going to be equal.
- 18:32Speaker 4: It's like almost like the marching syndrome, Like while we're
- 18:34Speaker 4: gonna keep trying to march one This is why the
- 18:36Speaker 4: entrepreneur thing comes into play with people like myself, not
- 18:38Speaker 4: to say like when we tipped in, we used to
- 18:40Speaker 4: that white think that's okay. I don't think it's okay.
- 18:42Speaker 4: But I feel like I'm not expecting anybody to do
- 18:45Speaker 4: something for me that they haven't done for four hundred years.
- 18:47Speaker 4: Like know what I'm saying. So now let's do our own thing.
- 18:49Speaker 4: We can start teaching ourselves. We can have different platforms.
- 18:52Speaker 4: This is what this platform is. It's like a college
- 18:54Speaker 4: course pretty much every single week, right, So if you
- 18:57Speaker 4: can do something to school, great, I'm not holding my breath.
- 19:00Speaker 3: That's my personal thing. And there's a lot of people that
- 19:01Speaker 3: feel like me.
- 19:02Speaker 4: So I want to get you guys's thoughts on how
- 19:07Speaker 4: you think why it's important to change it from the inside,
- 19:09Speaker 4: because you are inside, You're inside of the building literally,
- 19:12Speaker 4: and you know.
- 19:13Speaker 3: Just your thoughts on that I'll start.
- 19:16Speaker 6: I just think representation number one is extremely important. Like
- 19:19Speaker 6: I work in elementary school. I don't know if I've ever,
- 19:22Speaker 6: I don't know how many black males or males of
- 19:25Speaker 6: color are in elementary school. So having representation, seeing something
- 19:28Speaker 6: that you can aspire to be. I would say that
- 19:30Speaker 6: everything I do is super intentional from the way I talk,
- 19:33Speaker 6: to the way I dress, to the music I listen to.
- 19:36Speaker 5: I want to stay in.
- 19:36Speaker 6: Tune with what the future generation is listening to so
- 19:39Speaker 6: that we can always be engaged. I also think being
- 19:43Speaker 6: culturally responsive is key, and I think that's one of
- 19:46Speaker 6: the things that Val does to her post.
- 19:48Speaker 5: Her education is so responsive.
- 19:50Speaker 6: And people used to say, we need to be relevant,
- 19:53Speaker 6: and I'm like, relevancy can change over time, you know
- 19:55Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Every ten years, culture changes. Right if
- 19:59Speaker 6: I'm from Jamaica, Right, if I went back to Jamaica,
- 20:02Speaker 6: the culture is completely different from the one that my
- 20:04Speaker 6: parents grew up in, right, So that we have to
- 20:06Speaker 6: be responsive because culture is always changing. Things are always changing.
- 20:09Speaker 6: We need to keep up with that. Like, that's a
- 20:11Speaker 6: job in itself, and I don't think a lot of
- 20:13Speaker 6: my you know, educators take that job.
- 20:15Speaker 5: As seriously as as they should.
- 20:17Speaker 7: Right.
- 20:17Speaker 6: They get their curriculum, they say, this is what I
- 20:19Speaker 6: have to teach. If they don't learn it, you know what,
- 20:22Speaker 6: that's on them. But in the end it'll end up
- 20:24Speaker 6: being on the educator themselves, right, because the test scores
- 20:27Speaker 6: will dictate how effective the teacher is. So I think
- 20:30Speaker 6: representation and being responsive to what's happening in culture.
- 20:35Speaker 8: Everybody doesn't have the same values at this point, so
- 20:39Speaker 8: we need to start there. We need to start first
- 20:42Speaker 8: with identifying the values in the community. We have to
- 20:45Speaker 8: come together as a full community first. Right now, everybody's
- 20:49Speaker 8: working in silos. People need to come together as one community.
- 20:54Speaker 8: Community means whatever whoever you are, don't matter what you work.
- 20:57Speaker 7: What you look like, you live in that community. That's
- 21:00Speaker 7: your community. Cool, everybody come together, everybody.
- 21:05Speaker 8: Then we identify the values, and for me, my number
- 21:08Speaker 8: one value is education. Somebody else number one value might
- 21:12Speaker 8: be something else. We don't know right now. But once
- 21:16Speaker 8: we tally up the values, then we work from making
- 21:19Speaker 8: a plan. Right now, we can't say what works, how
- 21:22Speaker 8: are we going to fix it? We gotta implement a plan.
- 21:27Speaker 8: That's what action research is. That's why I'm going back
- 21:29Speaker 8: to school. That's why I gotta get my doctorate.
- 21:31Speaker 4: So what plan or what would you what would your
- 21:32Speaker 4: plan specifically, what would your plan look like?
- 21:35Speaker 6: You're going back to Johns Hopkins, right, so you're gonna
- 21:39Speaker 6: be what are you gonna be studying there?
- 21:40Speaker 7: My brain and teaching.
- 21:41Speaker 8: So I'm looking at things from a neurologist's perspective, which
- 21:47Speaker 8: is very scary for me because I am not good
- 21:51Speaker 8: at science and math. Right now, I'm getting better, but
- 21:54Speaker 8: that's not my strong suit. So being a researchers always
- 21:57Speaker 8: terrified the heck out of me, but I don't care.
- 22:00Speaker 8: I have to get over that, which is another reason
- 22:03Speaker 8: why I'm like, I cannot be on social media right now.
- 22:06Speaker 8: I can't create right now. I have to study and
- 22:09Speaker 8: become a better learner. Right now, my learning.
- 22:12Speaker 7: Habits are just really trash, Like I feel like I
- 22:15Speaker 7: have ADHD.
- 22:16Speaker 8: I know I'm going on a tangent, but I do.
- 22:17Speaker 8: Sometimes I just can't even focus, like look.
- 22:20Speaker 7: At my book.
- 22:20Speaker 8: I have to make myself a little daily monitor for
- 22:23Speaker 8: my own behaviors because I feel like I'm like connected
- 22:27Speaker 8: to everything else. Then, you know, anyway back to this,
- 22:31Speaker 8: what we need to do. We need to do what
- 22:33Speaker 8: I'm doing and self assess because it starts with you.
- 22:36Speaker 8: But the other thing we need to do, which is
- 22:38Speaker 8: why I'm going back to school, is we have to
- 22:41Speaker 8: go into our classrooms with a researcher's lens. So what
- 22:45Speaker 8: I want to look at is specifically the child who
- 22:48Speaker 8: has been neglected, and I want to see how the
- 22:52Speaker 8: habits of the neglected child play out in their educational abilities.
- 23:00Speaker 7: And that's all I know right.
- 23:01Speaker 5: Now from the start.
- 23:02Speaker 7: That's just my little like, this is what I want.
- 23:05Speaker 8: I want to look at anger and I want to
- 23:06Speaker 8: look at love from the teacher's perspective. So I want
- 23:08Speaker 8: to look at a love based education. What does that
- 23:11Speaker 8: look like? How do you gather data to assess the
- 23:16Speaker 8: effectiveness of a love based education?
- 23:18Speaker 7: I don't know these things yet, so I can't say
- 23:21Speaker 7: this is the solution.
- 23:22Speaker 8: Love is a solution until I do my research, until
- 23:26Speaker 8: I gather the data, until I do it again with
- 23:29Speaker 8: a bigger pool, until I have to keep going.
- 23:31Speaker 7: I have to, I have to test this out. So
- 23:33Speaker 7: right now, I'm a student.
- 23:34Speaker 8: I'm a student right now, and I feel like that
- 23:36Speaker 8: is one of the solutions I would give y'all or
- 23:38Speaker 8: the US. So the community is become a student and
- 23:41Speaker 8: be okay with being a learner at whatever place you
- 23:44Speaker 8: are in right now, because no matter how many accolades
- 23:49Speaker 8: you have, titles, or followers or friends or whatever the
- 23:51Speaker 8: fuck you got, I don't know, excuse my language, but
- 23:53Speaker 8: it doesn't matter if you don't know how to get
- 23:57Speaker 8: where you want to go next, or how to get
- 23:59Speaker 8: to the place that needs you next. The Instagram pages
- 24:05Speaker 8: right now, no disrespect, no shade. Everybody is doing their
- 24:07Speaker 8: work in their way. But I don't see enough of us.
- 24:11Speaker 7: I don't see myself personally doing enough work that says
- 24:16Speaker 7: teach reading period, and I don't mean physically reading. Rashad
- 24:21Speaker 7: is my number.
- 24:22Speaker 8: One example when I tell people about non readers. Shad
- 24:25Speaker 8: knows everything.
- 24:26Speaker 7: Like if a shot doesn't read, for Shad reads non print,
- 24:30Speaker 7: non print. That is the type of reader that our
- 24:32Speaker 7: kids are.
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- 27:25Speaker 8: See more teachers like you, and there are more teachers
- 27:28Speaker 8: like you in the world than us.
- 27:30Speaker 7: The teachers need.
- 27:31Speaker 3: You now, that's a fact.
- 27:32Speaker 4: They do need me first and form you can I just.
- 27:36Speaker 5: Touch on something really quickly.
- 27:37Speaker 6: I just thought really quickly because what you said is
- 27:39Speaker 6: very interesting, Like if you asked me to throughout high
- 27:42Speaker 6: school and even in college in post school, how many
- 27:45Speaker 6: books I read, I probably could count on my hands,
- 27:46Speaker 6: and I know I don't read enough.
- 27:48Speaker 5: And then I started. I read an article and I
- 27:50Speaker 5: was like, wait, I do read a lot.
- 27:52Speaker 3: I read.
- 27:53Speaker 6: I read the Wall Street Journal every day. I read
- 27:55Speaker 6: the Daily News with my dad would bring home every day.
- 27:57Speaker 5: I was reading print.
- 27:58Speaker 6: I just wasn't reading books, but I was the magazines
- 28:00Speaker 6: when I was younger. I read cards like I always read,
- 28:03Speaker 6: just not in the way that we would taught, Like, hey,
- 28:06Speaker 6: you're not reading this literature book, so you're not a
- 28:08Speaker 6: reader because.
- 28:08Speaker 7: You were taught to read for a grade grade right.
- 28:11Speaker 5: And I'm doing it for my own joy. I've always
- 28:13Speaker 5: done it. That's good that you said that.
- 28:14Speaker 7: And they didn't. No one taught us to read. No
- 28:17Speaker 7: one taught us how to love learning.
- 28:19Speaker 8: They didn't explicitly say this is what learning feels like.
- 28:22Speaker 7: Don't you feel good?
- 28:23Speaker 8: No one gave us those And I think I can't
- 28:26Speaker 8: say no one because we did have good teachers, but
- 28:29Speaker 8: I never got someone to say This feels good, doesn't it?
- 28:34Speaker 7: Girl? No one said that when I was learning.
- 28:36Speaker 8: I'm going if somebody would have helped me name that high,
- 28:39Speaker 8: the natural high that comes from learning, how many more
- 28:42Speaker 8: people would getting high of learning every day?
- 28:44Speaker 4: But also I think that you know, from the education standpoint, See,
- 28:47Speaker 4: one of my problems with education is that. And I'm
- 28:50Speaker 4: not anti education, I'm not anti school, but I just
- 28:53Speaker 4: feel like I don't have faith in school because I've
- 28:56Speaker 4: seen it fail too many times. Right, And one of
- 28:57Speaker 4: the one of the main issues that I have with
- 28:59Speaker 4: school is that everybody learns differently. I think I read
- 29:02Speaker 4: somewhere it's where it's like just seven different learning styles, right,
- 29:05Speaker 4: But school only teaches one way.
- 29:07Speaker 5: To learn to industrial styles.
- 29:08Speaker 4: So now you have thirty kids that's all learning the
- 29:11Speaker 4: same way. So, like you said, I don't read books.
- 29:13Speaker 4: I'm an audio learner, so I can hear something that
- 29:15Speaker 4: I can process it much faster than if I read it.
- 29:18Speaker 4: I know how to read, but my attention span is
- 29:22Speaker 4: very short, right exactly, So I like to do audio books.
- 29:25Speaker 4: So it's just it's not it doesn't discount my learning.
- 29:30Speaker 8: But back in the day, that's what even what am
- 29:34Speaker 8: I saying back in the day, right now, our teachers
- 29:37Speaker 8: have not been given the freedom to say, you know,
- 29:40Speaker 8: your babies don't want to read that boring book? What
- 29:42Speaker 8: else do you think they should do in order to
- 29:44Speaker 8: get what you want?
- 29:45Speaker 7: You know, I know they come in my room all
- 29:47Speaker 7: the time.
- 29:48Speaker 8: What lesson plan are you on in the lesson planned book?
- 29:50Speaker 8: I'm like, seveneen, I don't know, but I have the data.
- 29:54Speaker 8: Sorry for hitting table. I have the data. I have
- 29:57Speaker 8: the data that shows these are the essays like look
- 29:59Speaker 8: at I've got to keep.
- 30:01Speaker 6: I mean when we visited your classroom, I was like,
- 30:04Speaker 6: this is the type of literature that our kids.
- 30:07Speaker 8: But no, no, no, no no, I'm talking about the data of
- 30:10Speaker 8: the essays that say this is their first essay, this
- 30:12Speaker 8: is their second, this is their third, and you see
- 30:14Speaker 8: these grades going up. I'm not trying to stay on
- 30:16Speaker 8: a lesson plan that's not teaching them how to get
- 30:18Speaker 8: from A to B.
- 30:20Speaker 4: But then, this is the problem with education, even when
- 30:22Speaker 4: we just posted on Instagram where a lot of people
- 30:24Speaker 4: are saying it's college worth it right because they go
- 30:26Speaker 4: to college and they get these degrees and they have
- 30:29Speaker 4: a bunch of student loan debt and they can't get
- 30:31Speaker 4: a job because they're not they don't they going without
- 30:33Speaker 4: really knowing what they want to do. They're getting a
- 30:36Speaker 4: general degree in something and it's not specialized, and they're
- 30:39Speaker 4: just going out in the world, and it's like, what
- 30:41Speaker 4: do I do now, because they don't teach you. This
- 30:43Speaker 4: is life skills, this is how you survive in the
- 30:45Speaker 4: real world. Right, And I said this before. I feel
- 30:47Speaker 4: like school kind of prepares you for that nine to
- 30:50Speaker 4: five mentality, right, because you have a lunch break, you
- 30:52Speaker 4: get the school early. Like I'm not an early white
- 30:55Speaker 4: rise of I don't get up to eight o'clock, sometimes
- 30:58Speaker 4: nine o'clock.
- 30:59Speaker 5: Right.
- 30:59Speaker 3: I work at night.
- 31:00Speaker 4: I might stay up to four o'clock in the morning,
- 31:02Speaker 4: so I don't feel like I have to get up
- 31:04Speaker 4: at six thirty in order to feel good about myself.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Like you know, everybody's different.
- 31:08Speaker 4: But I think that that's because I was never really
- 31:09Speaker 4: that great as a student. Decent student, but I was
- 31:12Speaker 4: never really great, right, And I think one.
- 31:15Speaker 8: Terms of what was defined as greatness, because great is relative.
- 31:19Speaker 3: Well, what I'm saying in school, I was never a.
- 31:21Speaker 7: Great student's relative though as far as grades, grades and stuff.
- 31:25Speaker 8: In test school, I don't want you to a lot
- 31:28Speaker 8: of times our babies, people come, we had all of
- 31:30Speaker 8: us have these stories. Like me personally, I would tell
- 31:32Speaker 8: my story of how terrible I was in high school.
- 31:34Speaker 8: I was this, I was that, But the reality was
- 31:37Speaker 8: I really wasn't that bad. I just thought I was
- 31:38Speaker 8: that bad. There were so many other things, And there
- 31:41Speaker 8: are the kids. There are kids who are not bad
- 31:43Speaker 8: at all, who don't get to interact with our blanket
- 31:47Speaker 8: statement of being not great.
- 31:49Speaker 4: And well, yeah, because I always like to tie in
- 31:52Speaker 4: personal stories. So it's crazy now because it's like on Instagram,
- 31:57Speaker 4: people will hit me all the time and it's flyering.
- 31:59Speaker 4: I appreciate, but they're like, yo, you're so smart, You're
- 32:01Speaker 4: a genius. Da da da da. But it's crazy because hey,
- 32:04Speaker 4: nobody looks themselves like that. Right, we just reading information
- 32:07Speaker 4: and we're just giving it back to the public. But
- 32:09Speaker 4: so in school, I had an IEP. Right this, things
- 32:11Speaker 4: are not familiar with IEP. That's like a learning disability.
- 32:14Speaker 5: It's an individual education plan.
- 32:15Speaker 4: Yeah, so pretty much the said I had a learned disability,
- 32:18Speaker 4: but I didn't. I don't think I had a learning disability.
- 32:21Speaker 4: I just wasn't interested in learning. The way that I
- 32:24Speaker 4: was being taught. Obviously I'm intelligent, like you know what
- 32:27Speaker 4: I'm saying. So, but it's how many kids take that
- 32:32Speaker 4: label and now their self esteem drops and now going forward,
- 32:36Speaker 4: they don't feel good about themselves.
- 32:37Speaker 7: It's not the label because me, I feel like, give
- 32:40Speaker 7: them a label if you're going to educate them on
- 32:42Speaker 7: what that label is and not make.
- 32:43Speaker 8: It seem like that, you know what, Like, let's because
- 32:48Speaker 8: I'm speaking for myself personally. When I got diagnosed, that
- 32:52Speaker 8: freed the heck out of me. It made me feel
- 32:54Speaker 8: like I am this is I'm normal. There are things
- 32:57Speaker 8: to help me with how I feel right now. And
- 32:59Speaker 8: this is because science. To that it was scary for
- 33:02Speaker 8: me to not be like everybody else. Once I understood,
- 33:05Speaker 8: and then I could and then once I educated myself
- 33:07Speaker 8: on my label or my label, I could say this.
- 33:09Speaker 7: Is not actually my label.
- 33:10Speaker 8: I was showing signs of this, but I'm a little
- 33:12Speaker 8: bit different than this and that because I was able
- 33:14Speaker 8: to educate it myself with it.
- 33:16Speaker 7: Now with our babies, you have children who.
- 33:18Speaker 8: Don't even know what it means, what it means to
- 33:20Speaker 8: be ADHD, but their IP says they have ADHD.
- 33:23Speaker 7: I have a little boy, I asked him. He said no.
- 33:26Speaker 7: He said, Miss Clay, am I bad? And I said, no,
- 33:31Speaker 7: you're not bad.
- 33:33Speaker 8: I said, we were talking about his thing, and I said,
- 33:36Speaker 8: you just have ADHD.
- 33:38Speaker 7: He said, why would you say that?
- 33:41Speaker 8: Like he got really angry, and I'm like, so you
- 33:43Speaker 8: would rather be labeled bad than to have ADHD.
- 33:47Speaker 7: He was like, yes, like that's that's not okay.
- 33:52Speaker 4: But what is Are we even showing that these labels
- 33:55Speaker 4: of ADHD are even appropriate right?
- 33:57Speaker 3: Because he not?
- 33:58Speaker 7: And but the point is to still be. He doesn't
- 34:00Speaker 7: even know what that means.
- 34:01Speaker 8: He doesn't know that it simply means that sitting still
- 34:04Speaker 8: and learning is not the way for him.
- 34:06Speaker 7: He doesn't know what it means. He should be outdoors
- 34:08Speaker 7: canoeing and putting up tents and learning project based learning.
- 34:13Speaker 7: He doesn't know these things about himself because he doesn't
- 34:15Speaker 7: even know what his label means.
- 34:16Speaker 8: He ain't seed on me dumb. It means I can't
- 34:19Speaker 8: system This is me. I knew I needed my book
- 34:22Speaker 8: because I get overstimulated. So I can't listen to you
- 34:25Speaker 8: for a long period of time without moving and I
- 34:26Speaker 8: don't want to say He start fidgeting, so I have
- 34:28Speaker 8: to start writing.
- 34:29Speaker 7: That's how my learning style is. How many children don't
- 34:31Speaker 7: know that about themselves.
- 34:32Speaker 8: They get in trouble because they can't sit still like
- 34:34Speaker 8: this for the whole time.
- 34:35Speaker 6: Like it's it's like the industrialized way of teaching or
- 34:39Speaker 6: building schools. Right in the Industrial Revolution, it was like, hey,
- 34:43Speaker 6: everybody shows up at this time.
- 34:44Speaker 5: We go into this building.
- 34:46Speaker 6: A bell rings, We go to this room, another bell rings,
- 34:49Speaker 6: we have lunch, another bell rings, we go home. It's
- 34:51Speaker 6: the same thing that they've created with schools. It's like,
- 34:54Speaker 6: all right, we go in first period, there's a belt,
- 34:57Speaker 6: second period, there's a bell, third period, there's lunch. It's
- 35:00Speaker 6: the same format. Everybody's supposed to learn the same. When
- 35:03Speaker 6: everybody doesn't, everybody learns differently, and like when kids feel comfortable,
- 35:07Speaker 6: like knowing that it's okay. Like I've seen schools that
- 35:10Speaker 6: thrive with project based learning because it's a different way
- 35:13Speaker 6: to teach, and the teachers educators love it because it's like, Wow,
- 35:17Speaker 6: I'm learning too as we're doing this.
- 35:18Speaker 5: This is amazing.
- 35:19Speaker 6: But you know, we have to get away from that
- 35:21Speaker 6: industrialized year of teaching.
- 35:23Speaker 8: And I think teachers need the permission and schools need
- 35:26Speaker 8: the funding to get training, training on how to differentiate.
- 35:29Speaker 7: In your classroom, because don't get it twisted.
- 35:33Speaker 8: We're saying people are not doing but people are doing
- 35:35Speaker 8: it really well, and there are so many studies like
- 35:38Speaker 8: differentiation in the classroom should be happening every single day.
- 35:41Speaker 8: You should be creating lesson plans, develop developing these lesson
- 35:45Speaker 8: plans directly for your kids, tailor directly.
- 35:47Speaker 7: For your kids.
- 35:48Speaker 8: All of those kids, like this is data right now.
- 35:51Speaker 8: These are my kids that got a failing grade on
- 35:53Speaker 8: my essay. These are the kids that moved up. These
- 35:55Speaker 8: have a bod. Now when I go in on Tuesday,
- 35:57Speaker 8: I'm not going to give them all the same exact lesson. Yeah,
- 36:00Speaker 8: they failed, so they need something else. They are moving on,
- 36:03Speaker 8: They're gonna And then the kids right here that are
- 36:05Speaker 8: moving on into purple, they don't learn the way the
- 36:07Speaker 8: ones in the red dude, So I have to make
- 36:09Speaker 8: sure even though they're all moving on, this group has
- 36:11Speaker 8: something different.
- 36:12Speaker 7: This group has something different. While I'm over here specifically
- 36:14Speaker 7: with this little group, how many teachers are doing that
- 36:17Speaker 7: a lot, a lot. But the thing is, the thing
- 36:20Speaker 7: is not enough art well.
- 36:21Speaker 4: Because yeah, I was gonna say I've actually never seen
- 36:23Speaker 4: a teacher do that, right, I'm just being honest. And
- 36:27Speaker 4: I went to school, public school and private school, and
- 36:30Speaker 4: most especially in public school, most of the teachers were
- 36:33Speaker 4: just getting trying and get through the day.
- 36:35Speaker 3: And if you didn't curse them out, you gotta be.
- 36:40Speaker 5: Today.
- 36:41Speaker 8: I can tell you that happens. I can tell you
- 36:42Speaker 8: that happens. I promise you, I can tell you that happens.
- 36:45Speaker 8: And I'm not even going to talk about the negative.
- 36:47Speaker 8: I'm going to stay in this zone right here.
- 36:50Speaker 5: A lot of people I want.
- 36:51Speaker 7: I want.
- 36:51Speaker 8: What I want to say is that I want any
- 36:53Speaker 8: business person that's listening to this, if you got some bread,
- 36:55Speaker 8: you go to your local school and you say, hello, principal,
- 36:58Speaker 8: I'm giving you this donation to pay for a differentiation PD,
- 37:04Speaker 8: a professional development for your teachers on differentiation and if
- 37:07Speaker 8: they need somebody to run that.
- 37:08Speaker 7: PD, google it or come find us. Meet my peers,
- 37:13Speaker 7: my principal.
- 37:14Speaker 8: I have people in DC Extraditionary Learning, but Baltimore Design
- 37:19Speaker 8: School has, like, we have a lot of people out here,
- 37:22Speaker 8: Gina Procter, one of my favorites, Like, we have some
- 37:25Speaker 8: good teachers out here who can help you learn how
- 37:28Speaker 8: to attend to every child in your classroom. The problem
- 37:31Speaker 8: is not that teachers don't want it. Sometimes the problem
- 37:34Speaker 8: is that that curriculum has a chain, you know what
- 37:37Speaker 8: I'm saying.
- 37:38Speaker 5: It goes back to the test, to the.
- 37:39Speaker 8: Money, goes back to the test, because everybody is studying
- 37:42Speaker 8: us but us, and creating more to keep us in
- 37:45Speaker 8: this box that we are in.
- 37:48Speaker 5: Get out of Third grade is a critical year.
- 37:49Speaker 6: It's actually the first year that they actually start taking
- 37:52Speaker 6: state tests.
- 37:52Speaker 5: And even in New York, a lot.
- 37:53Speaker 6: Of people they have the option to opt out of
- 37:56Speaker 6: the test because really, the anxiety is a real thing
- 37:59Speaker 6: now and I'm not sure what it really proves in
- 38:01Speaker 6: third grade. Eighth grade is another critical year, but the
- 38:05Speaker 6: test show like if a kid has a low reading
- 38:07Speaker 6: score at third chances are they going to follow him
- 38:10Speaker 6: to eighth Eighth They're going to follow him.
- 38:13Speaker 7: Because they know that that kid is likely to.
- 38:15Speaker 5: Drop out of school because now he has a low literacy.
- 38:18Speaker 7: Rate and teachers don't know.
- 38:19Speaker 8: Teachers have said to me, I don't know how to
- 38:21Speaker 8: teach kids that are a low grade level. I've only
- 38:23Speaker 8: been trained to teach my grade level. So you mean
- 38:26Speaker 8: to tell me you are a sixth grade teacher, and
- 38:28Speaker 8: you have kids that are reading on third, fourth, fifth
- 38:30Speaker 8: grade levels and you don't know how to bring them up.
- 38:32Speaker 7: What happens when that kid get to eight, gets to ten,
- 38:34Speaker 7: they're lower?
- 38:36Speaker 3: Now was your job?
- 38:37Speaker 5: It is?
- 38:37Speaker 8: But a lot of teachers don't see it is that
- 38:38Speaker 8: because they don't even know how to do it. We
- 38:41Speaker 8: need to make sure that this money, there's so much money,
- 38:44Speaker 8: give your schools money to get the teachers training. Don't
- 38:47Speaker 8: just buy us books, teach us how to teach those books,
- 38:49Speaker 8: because a lot of teachers.
- 38:50Speaker 7: Need help learning how to teach. And that's just the
- 38:53Speaker 7: name of the game.
- 38:54Speaker 8: Like I should be using iPads instead of these My
- 38:57Speaker 8: baby should all have iPads in their hands. But not
- 39:00Speaker 8: efficient enough on an iPad yet. So I'm doing this
- 39:03Speaker 8: and they're doing this. Everybody has a notebook just.
- 39:05Speaker 7: Like mine, and we're working.
- 39:07Speaker 8: But they feel good carrying their little little notebook pad.
- 39:10Speaker 8: But when do I get that iPad training? When when
- 39:13Speaker 8: does every school say it is a requirement that every
- 39:17Speaker 8: kid has an iPad instead of having a pen or
- 39:19Speaker 8: a pencil. Because at this point, teach them how to
- 39:22Speaker 8: use their iPhones instead of making them lock them in
- 39:24Speaker 8: their lockers.
- 39:25Speaker 7: We used them how to Google.
- 39:27Speaker 6: We have actually some school districts here in westtern so
- 39:29Speaker 6: where they've allowed that, that has been implemented and starting kindergarten.
- 39:33Speaker 7: Where is it where city? No?
- 39:40Speaker 6: No, no, I'm just saying that because it's an initiative,
- 39:42Speaker 6: but it starts.
- 39:42Speaker 8: To Then Westchester's job is to make sure that they
- 39:45Speaker 8: publicize that nationwide so people can see this is working
- 39:49Speaker 8: in this district. Really well, everybody else needs to start
- 39:52Speaker 8: doing it. They need to use their power, use that power.
- 39:57Speaker 8: This is now we could get on the conversation of like,
- 40:00Speaker 8: you know, black power versus white influence and all these
- 40:03Speaker 8: different we could talk about, you know, allies versus co conspirators.
- 40:06Speaker 7: I need Wesester to be a co conspirator in.
- 40:08Speaker 8: This moment, and I need them to say this works
- 40:11Speaker 8: with our children, specifically our children who are black and
- 40:13Speaker 8: brown in this district. This works if they take that
- 40:16Speaker 8: data and they show it. My principle reads everything. This
- 40:18Speaker 8: is where she gets her brain skills ideas from. She
- 40:21Speaker 8: gets these brands banking ideas every now and then, and
- 40:23Speaker 8: they come from an article she references.
- 40:25Speaker 7: She's reading. She reads that and sees that it works
- 40:27Speaker 7: guess what. We get the permission to do, We get
- 40:29Speaker 7: the permission to try it. I should have been to
- 40:32Speaker 7: about this, you know what I'm saying. So that's my
- 40:34Speaker 7: thing is like we're doing a lot of great work,
- 40:36Speaker 7: but we're still in a silo.
- 40:37Speaker 8: Community needs to come together and decide what are our
- 40:40Speaker 8: values and then make a bucket for every value. These
- 40:43Speaker 8: are the tools that work to get us toward that
- 40:44Speaker 8: value because some people are really doing the work for
- 40:47Speaker 8: those values.
- 40:48Speaker 7: We don't know. We don't know.
- 40:51Speaker 5: That should be on a shave room.
- 40:53Speaker 8: I want to see that on the shaved room, like
- 40:55Speaker 8: I want to see I love seeing myself on places
- 40:59Speaker 8: that I when you never guess, like Vogue crazy, I'll
- 41:02Speaker 8: never guess. But I want to see the literacy deficit
- 41:06Speaker 8: in those same spaces. I want to see more urgency
- 41:09Speaker 8: around teaching people how to love learning their own individual
- 41:12Speaker 8: paths of learning. Don't you love what you're doing right now?
- 41:15Speaker 8: You love this and you're learning as you go. Absolutely,
- 41:18Speaker 8: you're loving this learning process.
- 41:20Speaker 3: This is what it is.
- 41:20Speaker 4: That's one of the best things about being the teachers
- 41:22Speaker 4: that helps you learn, right. So, like even when we
- 41:24Speaker 4: post on Instagram, like I got to research the stories
- 41:26Speaker 4: because I got to make sure you faction.
- 41:29Speaker 8: If you are a highly qualified right he sounds like
- 41:32Speaker 8: what a highly effective teacher does. They research, they're continuing
- 41:35Speaker 8: to look for more to gauge their their students, their audience.
- 41:39Speaker 7: So I don't know, you know what it is that.
- 41:44Speaker 8: We together can continue to do to make sure that
- 41:46Speaker 8: this is happening, because now I feel like it's our
- 41:49Speaker 8: duty since we've said this, to make sure that we
- 41:51Speaker 8: check in.
- 41:52Speaker 7: But maybe that's what we can do. We can plan
- 41:54Speaker 7: to have like some sort.
- 41:55Speaker 8: Of monthly community check in, maybe here or in different cities,
- 41:59Speaker 8: I don't know. Then we can think about an initiative
- 42:01Speaker 8: where we're just hearing or even just in your life.
- 42:04Speaker 7: Like you guys, I want you to continue this part
- 42:06Speaker 7: of the conversation where you're really calling people to say,
- 42:10Speaker 7: this is what we're doing in my community.
- 42:12Speaker 8: To keep this conversation being stake wide holders wide, stakeholders wide.
- 42:17Speaker 8: You know what I'm trying to say, everybody had the table.
- 42:18Speaker 6: Everybody's stake holding in it, right, because I mean, if
- 42:20Speaker 6: you you've come through education and if you have kids,
- 42:23Speaker 6: they're going to go through everybody, he's a stake in.
- 42:25Speaker 3: This, Yes, Wow. That was powerful. That was powerful. Yeah.
- 42:31Speaker 4: Man, that was just very eye opening for a lot
- 42:35Speaker 4: of different levels. Because you know, we go through the
- 42:37Speaker 4: educations everybody, that's one thing by education.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Everybody goes through.
- 42:39Speaker 5: Everybody has to do it.
- 42:40Speaker 4: No, it's no opting out. Even if you're homeschool, you're
- 42:42Speaker 4: still taught something like you can.
- 42:44Speaker 8: Opt out of the state test. Yeah, and not enough
- 42:46Speaker 8: of us know that either. And it won't hurt you
- 42:49Speaker 8: if you if parents opt a child out of a test,
- 42:52Speaker 8: the standardized test, it doesn't hurt them their future.
- 42:55Speaker 3: And what would be the benefit of opting out of
- 42:56Speaker 3: a state test?
- 42:57Speaker 6: You don't have to take it, yeah, because like I said,
- 42:59Speaker 6: like we haven't figured out the purpose of it, right.
- 43:02Speaker 6: It says that it's supposed to send us. It's supposed
- 43:04Speaker 6: to have kids focusing more. They're supposed to work harder,
- 43:07Speaker 6: to try for achievement. And it doesn't show that like.
- 43:11Speaker 3: Any state that you're in you can opt out.
- 43:12Speaker 5: Well, I know New York State, you can't.
- 43:17Speaker 3: That's the region any state.
- 43:19Speaker 5: No, No, no region is high school.
- 43:20Speaker 7: But we're talking about I'm talking about parks specifically, Like
- 43:24Speaker 7: you can opt out of standardized tests like that, But.
- 43:27Speaker 6: The regions is another thing. I'm glad you said that
- 43:29Speaker 6: because York that's just a New York, but some other
- 43:33Speaker 6: states have regions exams. But like if I've passed, if
- 43:36Speaker 6: I passed a region's exam, right, and I have a
- 43:38Speaker 6: region's diploma, that's only good if I'm in New York.
- 43:40Speaker 6: If I go to Connecticut, it means nothing. Or if
- 43:42Speaker 6: I go to New Jersey that New York regions means nothing.
- 43:45Speaker 6: So why are we mandating that our kids in New
- 43:47Speaker 6: York have a region's diploma If they want to go
- 43:49Speaker 6: to school somewhere else it means zero?
- 43:51Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
- 43:51Speaker 6: Like if I'm in California and I passed California money,
- 43:55Speaker 6: Well it comes back to it again, right, So.
- 43:57Speaker 7: Just like why do you have to pay money to
- 43:59Speaker 7: take the certification test?
- 44:01Speaker 5: Right?
- 44:02Speaker 7: And that every time you take it and you fail,
- 44:03Speaker 7: you got to keep paying.
- 44:04Speaker 6: And now that you can take it more times, it
- 44:06Speaker 6: used to be like four times a year. Now it's
- 44:07Speaker 6: like every three weeks you can take it because it's
- 44:11Speaker 6: more money.
- 44:11Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, Keep making it harder so they.
- 44:14Speaker 5: Can't they can't pass it.
- 44:15Speaker 7: So they can't pass it, and put.
- 44:17Speaker 6: More in so that they people that look like you
- 44:20Speaker 6: and I will tear us away from it, you know
- 44:23Speaker 6: what I mean. That's why I said representation is key.
- 44:24Speaker 6: We need to see more educators of color in all school.
- 44:27Speaker 7: Districts, you know what.
- 44:28Speaker 8: I feel like we're saying a lot without allowing people
- 44:31Speaker 8: to understand where we're getting this information from.
- 44:33Speaker 4: But this is the thing about this show too, because
- 44:34Speaker 4: we don't just me and Troy just don't give our
- 44:37Speaker 4: opinions on things.
- 44:38Speaker 3: We bring.
- 44:39Speaker 4: We bring experts in the field than that are knowledgeable.
- 44:41Speaker 4: So Troy is an expert in this because he's a teacher.
- 44:43Speaker 4: But that's why we brought you in and talk about educated.
- 44:45Speaker 7: This is an edu I just wanted to go back
- 44:47Speaker 7: to the text. That's all I'm saying.
- 44:48Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, so but but yeah, so,
- 44:51Speaker 4: but that brings me into what I was saying. As
- 44:53Speaker 4: far as you know, we're talking about taxes. This isn't
- 44:54Speaker 4: just we're just making this up, right. We're bringing in
- 44:56Speaker 4: an account we had, you know, a lawyer, and we're
- 44:59Speaker 4: not just going off. No, she knows and this is
- 45:01Speaker 4: important too to highlight different people in our community that
- 45:04Speaker 4: may not be highlighted. And you know, we have professionals
- 45:08Speaker 4: that are highly educated, highly trained, very efficient people that
- 45:11Speaker 4: come from our community, right, and they need to be highlighted.
- 45:14Speaker 4: So that's one of the platforms one of the things
- 45:16Speaker 4: that we're using our platform too as well, and that
- 45:19Speaker 4: hopefully that might inspire somebody.
- 45:20Speaker 3: Right. So she's a cool lawyer, she's a cool teacher.
- 45:23Speaker 3: You know.
- 45:24Speaker 4: Oh he talks like me, but he's a mortgage broker.
- 45:26Speaker 4: I can do that, you know what I mean, Like,
- 45:27Speaker 4: it's not that it can't be that difficult. So yeah,
- 45:30Speaker 4: So man, we can stay on this topic. We can
- 45:33Speaker 4: stay on this education for so long because there's so
- 45:35Speaker 4: much to talk about. But we want to just first
- 45:38Speaker 4: and foremost, thank you for coming in. We appreciate it.
- 45:41Speaker 4: It's very valuable. I hope you guys really you know,
- 45:44Speaker 4: thought about a lot of things that were said, because,
- 45:46Speaker 4: as I said, everybody comes through education one way or
- 45:48Speaker 4: and others. So it's important for yourself, for your children,
- 45:52Speaker 4: for your grandchildren, for all of our community. As you said,
- 45:56Speaker 4: you know, it's a community effort. Whether you're in school,
- 45:58Speaker 4: out of school, whatever. Everybody you know, need needs to
- 46:00Speaker 4: be aware of an education system. Everybody needs to self
- 46:04Speaker 4: educate and everybody needs to hold our institutions accountable as well, right,
- 46:09Speaker 4: and do what you can do too. But one thing
- 46:11Speaker 4: about complaining, That's how I got into financial literacy, right
- 46:13Speaker 4: because I used to complain a lot, and then when
- 46:16Speaker 4: you gave me an opportunity to teach a class, I
- 46:18Speaker 4: started teaching, and then from teaching, I developed kind of
- 46:21Speaker 4: a passion for it. So everybody can bring value one
- 46:24Speaker 4: way or the other, whether it's after school program, whether
- 46:26Speaker 4: it's the community. Doesn't have to be in a set school,
- 46:29Speaker 4: your religious organization, whatever you know.
- 46:31Speaker 3: Teach whatever you do for a living.
- 46:33Speaker 4: You might you know, you might be an account and
- 46:35Speaker 4: teach the kids about how to do taxi or go.
- 46:37Speaker 5: Back, go back to your school.
- 46:38Speaker 6: So if you're in your neighborhood and that's one of
- 46:40Speaker 6: the things that you know, the first thing I had
- 46:41Speaker 6: you do was like we had a career day.
- 46:43Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, come.
- 46:44Speaker 6: Back and speak to these kids because you are from
- 46:46Speaker 6: our neighborhood. Come back and speak If whatever profession you're in,
- 46:49Speaker 6: go back and find out what your school's doing, if
- 46:51Speaker 6: they offer a career day or if they don't start one,
- 46:54Speaker 6: and go back and talk to kids.
- 46:55Speaker 5: Man, because it's valuable.
- 46:56Speaker 3: No, it's important. It's important. Valve.
- 46:58Speaker 4: Do you have any initiatives or things coming up that
- 47:01Speaker 4: you want to make the people aware of or can
- 47:02Speaker 4: they support your I know you have a nonprofit organization.
- 47:06Speaker 7: Do you have any people can be aware of?
- 47:08Speaker 8: Me being in a purposeful silence on sabbatical from all speeches.
- 47:15Speaker 7: This is like my last public speaking thing. Mm hmm oh.
- 47:22Speaker 7: I am going to be at the Dominican.
- 47:23Speaker 8: Writers I'm like, that's the panel, but that's it. After that,
- 47:30Speaker 8: we're taking the Blossom Girls to Cuba this year, so
- 47:33Speaker 8: you'll see some stuff coming out to donate to that.
- 47:37Speaker 4: Yeah, and before we go, once again, thank you God.
- 47:40Speaker 4: But we will make you aware of something. Also, Choy,
- 47:42Speaker 4: you want to talk about Patreon.
- 47:44Speaker 5: Yeah, Patreon.
- 47:44Speaker 6: I want to just give it a quick second to
- 47:46Speaker 6: shout out our two newest members of Patreon. Cody he
- 47:50Speaker 6: actually joined at our legacy Yeah, so Cody He Our
- 47:54Speaker 6: legacy tear involves us having a three hour three one
- 47:58Speaker 6: hour conversations a month, so we're going to be starting
- 48:01Speaker 6: that this week. And I want to shout out Terry
- 48:03Speaker 6: who joined it at the Blueprint here, so Terry's gonna
- 48:06Speaker 6: get half an hour live stream with us to talk
- 48:09Speaker 6: about the episode that you know, we debut that week.
- 48:11Speaker 6: So shout out to those two and everybody who's been
- 48:13Speaker 6: joined on Patreon. We we had some people who said,
- 48:15Speaker 6: you know what, I felt like y'all giving so much
- 48:18Speaker 6: away for free. I just had to donate something so
- 48:20Speaker 6: that Proud to Pay campaign.
- 48:22Speaker 4: And like I said, we appreciate that the marathon continues,
- 48:25Speaker 4: you know, and as we said before, you know Nimsey
- 48:28Speaker 4: he was our guy and that's one of the things
- 48:29Speaker 4: that he really champion and Proud to Pay campaign. We're
- 48:31Speaker 4: gonna give you the information for free, but you know,
- 48:33Speaker 4: if you want to financially support the podcast and you know,
- 48:37Speaker 4: allow like what I just said, you know, go to
- 48:38Speaker 4: different cities, and we just want to keep spreading the
- 48:41Speaker 4: good word of financial literacy so that helps. You know,
- 48:43Speaker 4: everything in this world, you know, takes money to fund it.
- 48:46Speaker 4: So we are thankful for the people that have come
- 48:50Speaker 4: aboard as patrons, and we look forward to other people
- 48:53Speaker 4: and continue to give.
- 48:54Speaker 3: Us your feedback. We also have merch The merch is up.
- 48:57Speaker 4: The merch shop is doing well, and once again we
- 49:00Speaker 4: make statements with our clothes and our culture and we
- 49:02Speaker 4: complain about designers that we know don't care about us. Right,
- 49:06Speaker 4: So all of the clothes have financial literacy kind of
- 49:09Speaker 4: woven in. We have a hustle for your last name,
- 49:12Speaker 4: asked us old reliability, a lot of different stuff. So
- 49:15Speaker 4: you know, it's important to to make statements on what you're.
- 49:18Speaker 5: Doing very intentional. Everything we're doing is very intentional.
- 49:21Speaker 4: Yeah, So before I go, always say a book that
- 49:23Speaker 4: I've read or that i'm reading. So my book tip
- 49:26Speaker 4: of the week is soundless Cries don't lead to healing.
- 49:32Speaker 4: And who is the author of this book? None other
- 49:35Speaker 4: than our guests Valencia.
- 49:39Speaker 3: What is that?
- 49:39Speaker 5: What is that?
- 49:42Speaker 7: The book? Alsope mixtape coming.
- 49:48Speaker 4: It's not a mixtape like you think it is. Just
- 49:51Speaker 4: just don't just buy it. She says, to do whatever
- 49:53Speaker 4: she says to do, just do it.
- 49:54Speaker 6: Especially if you're in education. We talk about being responsive
- 49:57Speaker 6: and that is really a guide. I remember you were
- 50:00Speaker 6: coming up with the ideas for the book. You were
- 50:01Speaker 6: just reaching out and I'm like, oh, this is dope.
- 50:03Speaker 5: I love this.
- 50:04Speaker 6: So like when I heard you then, I'm like, you
- 50:06Speaker 6: know what, give me five copies. I just want five.
- 50:08Speaker 6: We'll take it. So, if you're in education, definitely look
- 50:11Speaker 6: into it and try to implement some of the ideas
- 50:14Speaker 6: in it. It's very responsive to yeah, I need to
- 50:18Speaker 6: buy twenty.
- 50:20Speaker 3: He's like jay Z when he brought a hundred mixtapes from.
- 50:24Speaker 5: Support the thing. Consume it.
- 50:27Speaker 4: There you go copy. Thank you guys for rocking with us.
- 50:31Speaker 4: We will see you next week.
- 50:32Speaker 3: Peace.
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