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What we need to do for Africa to stand a chance in the days ahead · Apostle Lazarus Femi

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  Speaker 1: By twenty fifty, a quarter of the population of the
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  Speaker 1: world will be African youth.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that equates to strength or an opportunity?
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  Speaker 1: Great opportunity. We have the opportunity to control the global workforce.
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  Speaker 2: African leaders get to put labor regulations in place that
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  Speaker 2: protect Africans wherever they are, where Asia, Europe or America. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe that's only when we might maximize that novel.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but we also have a dwindling youth population in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: And so if the African youth can look into the
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  Speaker 1: future and say, pah, in ten years, in fifteen years,
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  Speaker 1: what I can specialize in may not be found in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: There may not be any young person that can do
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  Speaker 1: what I can do. True, you will be given value
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  Speaker 1: for the value that you have placed on yourself. And so, yes,
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  Speaker 1: there is the governmental side of things where our leaders
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  Speaker 1: obviously need to put us in a good light, But
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  Speaker 1: there is also truth in individuals preparing themselves for the future.
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  Speaker 1: And it could be as early as twenty thirty.
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  Speaker 2: What's our biggest opportunity right now?
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  Speaker 3: Our biggest opportunity?
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  Speaker 2: Having identified our biggest opportunity, what do you think is
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  Speaker 2: our biggest challenge right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, our biggest challenge. I think we're standing in our
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  Speaker 1: own way powerful. I think there is a lot that
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  Speaker 1: we can do to move ourselves forward, but there are
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  Speaker 1: people making it happen.
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  Speaker 2: You want to might have pertly member said, do all
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  Speaker 2: is planning for Africa? What is Africa? Do you think
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  Speaker 2: Africa unite?
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  Speaker 3: Africa should absolutely unite.
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  Speaker 1: I think there is absolutely power in numbers and strength
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  Speaker 1: in numbers, and I think that the continent needs to
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  Speaker 1: recognize that strength. And we can start by our own
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  Speaker 1: transport system and trade and making it easy to move
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  Speaker 1: between the continent. At the moment, it's it's incredibly hard
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  Speaker 1: trying to trying to get to to certain parts of
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  Speaker 1: the continent. And why do we need visas anyway? That
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  Speaker 1: doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. Why do we
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  Speaker 1: need visas to visit other nations in.
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  Speaker 3: Africa and Africa? Why that then poses as a deterror?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think democracy is working for.
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: I believe you're not going to see this as well.
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  Speaker 2: You're one of the most successful black women in New
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  Speaker 2: Jersey and you again ultimately an African. You're doing amazing
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  Speaker 2: things for yourself, but yet you keep coming to Africa
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  Speaker 2: every year to help to empower young minds. What makes
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  Speaker 2: you so believe in the continent this much?
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  Speaker 1: I think I call it a love that will not
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  Speaker 1: let me go. I guess I've been fortunate to live
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  Speaker 1: on many continents. I've lived in Europe, I've lived in Asia,
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  Speaker 1: now America. I was born and grew up on the
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  Speaker 1: continent of Africa, and I guess I see the difference
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  Speaker 1: that exposure gifts. I see the difference between what having
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  Speaker 1: and not having.
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  Speaker 2: Does, what having and not having yes?
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  Speaker 1: And so for example, my boys play sports, they're avid
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  Speaker 1: soccer players, and you see in terms of equipment what
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  Speaker 1: they have, in terms of their own kids, what they have.
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  Speaker 1: And you come to the continent and of Africa raw talent,
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  Speaker 1: pure raw talent, wonderful players. There's some that do not
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  Speaker 1: have boots to move on to the next stage. And
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  Speaker 1: so what do we do. We come in, we collect kids,
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  Speaker 1: we do our bits, we you know, fundraise and come
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  Speaker 1: and help people like that. So it is really the
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  Speaker 1: need and the passion to just see my own people
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  Speaker 1: move to the next level.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see the same knitt in Ghana? Also?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely well, what do you think is Africa's number
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  Speaker 4: one need right now, Our.
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  Speaker 1: Number one need is a mindset change. Mindset change, mindset change,
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  Speaker 1: and by that, especially for the youth, the belief that
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  Speaker 1: we can do it right in our own land. And
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  Speaker 1: I know, I've had the privilege of traveling, and so
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  Speaker 1: they will say, you know, good for you, you have
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  Speaker 1: gone and you know you have been successful, and so
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  Speaker 1: you can come and help. But all well and good.
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  Speaker 1: I know some of us are meant to go and
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  Speaker 1: come back and help. But there are people that can
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  Speaker 1: make it right here on this continent, and there are
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  Speaker 1: many examples. And so what I want is self belief,
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  Speaker 1: knowing and believing that with the right attitude you can
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  Speaker 1: make it. Just going abroad is not the end all
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  Speaker 1: and the be all. It may be great for some,
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  Speaker 1: but for some we're meant to stay on the continent
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  Speaker 1: and help it to move to the next level.
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  Speaker 2: So you believe that the right minds that can shape
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  Speaker 2: this continent that right here, absolutely, and those are the
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  Speaker 2: people you're looking for.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: And Africa, I keep saying this, the African youth is
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  Speaker 1: not void of talent. We're not void of talent. We're
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  Speaker 1: not void of you know, there isn't any lack of
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  Speaker 1: ability anywhere. It's just lack of mindset and a belief
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  Speaker 1: that it can be done. And so, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: us what we mindset change is big in our programs.
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  Speaker 1: Leadership is big in our programs. And so we want
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  Speaker 1: the African youth to believe in themselves that you know,
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  Speaker 1: knowing that you can, believing that you can. And for
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  Speaker 1: some it's just even the belief in me believing in them,
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  Speaker 1: thinking and knowing that they're not forgotten. For some, that
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  Speaker 1: is all they need. We have a program for women.
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  Speaker 1: We do a lot of you know, poverty, mental poverty programs,
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  Speaker 1: what do you call it? Mental poverty programs, And so
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  Speaker 1: you know, we support women that at the time of
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  Speaker 1: the month cannot afford a pad, for example, and we
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  Speaker 1: bring in mentoral cubs and when we get into the room,
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  Speaker 1: you can just see from their posture it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: they have given up on life. You just see them
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  Speaker 1: sitting anyhow, and you know, and I get into the
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  Speaker 1: room and I say, you know, good afternoon, queens, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, usually this is the sports players, and I say,
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  Speaker 1: do you know that you are less than one percent
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  Speaker 1: of the population of what you can do? I cannot
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  Speaker 1: do what you can do. Do you believe in yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Do you believe that you're a queen? Do you believe
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  Speaker 1: that you're amazing? Do you believe that you're awesome? And
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden you just see them sit up,
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  Speaker 1: shoulder squaring up, and that's it?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you that passionate? Have you tasted that kind
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  Speaker 2: of life before?
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  Speaker 3: I have?
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  Speaker 1: I was fortunate to go to a girls school in Ghana,
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  Speaker 1: not abroad, in Ghana that believed in excellence, that told
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  Speaker 1: us that we were the standard and that even going
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  Speaker 1: abroad you cannot you know, level yourself to certain menial jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Is not just because a lot of Africans go and
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  Speaker 1: do that doesn't mean that that has to be your story.
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  Speaker 1: You know, some people may do it out of necessity,
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  Speaker 1: but you are the standard and so you have to
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  Speaker 1: set the bar. And so I know what you know,
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  Speaker 1: that mindset of knowing that you're you're intelligent enough, that
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  Speaker 1: you're you're good enough, I know, I know, And see
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  Speaker 1: what it does. It absolutely sets up your identity.
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  Speaker 2: You're perspecting the deep. Now I understand that just your
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  Speaker 2: small fraction of blacks in America gets to attend to
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  Speaker 2: your level of success what are the things you did differently?
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  Speaker 1: So in America, I keep having this conversation and it
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  Speaker 1: may come across as if I was brought up in
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  Speaker 1: Africa and so my story is different. That you know,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't there during the struggle, and so my story
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  Speaker 1: is different. But I believe that the reason why a
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  Speaker 1: lot of diasporas do well is because we do not
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  Speaker 1: carry the baggage that many blacks carry in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the struggle of the slave trade. But what I say
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  Speaker 1: is that I know I may get a knockdown for this,
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  Speaker 1: but America is.
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  Speaker 3: The greatest nation in the world.
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  Speaker 2: You believe.
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  Speaker 1: They have everything to prove it. They have everything to
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  Speaker 1: prove it. It is one of the reasons why most
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  Speaker 1: people that want to travel go there. The American dream
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  Speaker 1: is attainable to anyone that does. And I have said
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  Speaker 1: to them, I don't see anywhere apart from in Sub
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  Speaker 1: Saharan Africa, where a black person will become president. It
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  Speaker 1: has happened. We have had a black person as a
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  Speaker 1: vice president. It has happened. Many people go with nothing,
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  Speaker 1: not even with an education, and they can set up
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  Speaker 1: a business and make it in America. And so for me,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, Yes, America has its challenges, so does everywhere else.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe if you can look beyond the challenges
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  Speaker 1: and not make everything about racism, Yes it is a challenge,
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  Speaker 1: but if there is a some strength in you that
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  Speaker 1: can easily shake it off and say, I am not
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  Speaker 1: what people say I am that you know, my ability
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  Speaker 1: is not or what I am producing what someone is
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  Speaker 1: telling me that what I'm producing is super Because I
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  Speaker 1: am black, it does not define me. And so I
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  Speaker 1: look beyond that and I keep pushing, and I keep pushing,
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  Speaker 1: and I keep pushing.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that is the difference. So you believe that
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  Speaker 4: from up the slave triit hair spoken people's.
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  Speaker 1: Spirit, absolutely, absolutely and understandably, so understandably, So I keep
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  Speaker 1: raising my hands up and say, you know, I wasn't there,
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  Speaker 1: but I can see also even for Black Americans that
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  Speaker 1: have pushed beyond that limit that you know it has
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  Speaker 1: made a difference.
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  Speaker 2: But that doesn't include some of the young people now
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  Speaker 2: who were not there. Also, it does not.
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  Speaker 1: But history passes on, and you know when you live
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  Speaker 1: in a household that has said that, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: can't progress because we're black, or this is not happening
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  Speaker 1: for us because we're black, or we don't have these opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: Again, the reality is there.
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  Speaker 1: It was a harrowing time for black people and it
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  Speaker 1: was in our very generation. You have people's grandmothers and
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  Speaker 1: mothers that that you know that that lived through it,
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  Speaker 1: and so it is. It is definitely a real thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I do not in any way want to downplay that.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel that for people that have said I
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  Speaker 1: am not going to be who they say I am,
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  Speaker 1: or I am not going to let that define me,
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  Speaker 1: have been able to push past those barriers and made
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  Speaker 1: something for themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Do you do you want to welcomes to some of
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  Speaker 2: the practical steps people can take to push past those barriers.
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  Speaker 1: So to put my husband, he would often say, use
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  Speaker 1: black to your advantage. And so you will go into
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  Speaker 1: a room and you're the only black person, how are
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  Speaker 1: you going to differentiate yourself? And it's all about putting
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  Speaker 1: value on yourself. Yes, right, It's all about making sure
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  Speaker 1: that you stand out. It's all about making sure that
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  Speaker 1: you're excellent in all you do. And so those are
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  Speaker 1: some of the things. Life is not going to be
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  Speaker 1: handed to you on a silver platter. It won't and
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  Speaker 1: you know it is true that as a black person
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  Speaker 1: you have to work twice as hard and do you
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  Speaker 1: know things, I believe so I believe so there is
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  Speaker 1: absolute truth in that. But I also believe that you know,
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  Speaker 1: if again in changing your mindset and switching it to
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  Speaker 1: your advantage and saying that because I'm the only black person,
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  Speaker 1: if I can speak differently, how did Barack Obama become
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  Speaker 1: president and a president without scandal? He knew what he
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  Speaker 1: was aiming for, He had his goals, and he stuck
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  Speaker 1: to it. No scandal before his presidency, no scandal during
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  Speaker 1: his presidency. Yeah, and so I believe that it can
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  Speaker 1: be done. I have seen in terms of the Western
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  Speaker 1: world more black people in prominent, in prominent positions than
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  Speaker 1: anywhere else in the world. And I have lived in
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  Speaker 1: Europe and may I have lived in Asia as well,
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  Speaker 1: but there are not that many black people.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, he is and I believe that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, yes, they're practicing democracy now, but in the
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  Speaker 1: beginning it was pseudo democracy moved them forward, that moved
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  Speaker 1: them forward.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think Africa at some point.
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  Speaker 1: We have practiced democracy for many years and I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Benevolent dictatorship. What do you think about that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if dictatorship is the entire thing that
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  Speaker 1: we need, but we need a leader that will drive
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  Speaker 1: things forward. We do need a system where maybe we
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  Speaker 1: don't say that every four years there must be an election,
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  Speaker 1: because I said where we are now, most leaders work
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  Speaker 1: towards elections and not toward's progressing their societies. Yes, and
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  Speaker 1: so if I believe if I come into a four term,
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  Speaker 1: for example, right now, all I'm thinking about is how
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  Speaker 1: we're going to win the next election, and so that
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  Speaker 1: means that there is a destruction in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: progress that I can make.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely, having identified our biggest opportunity, what do you think
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  Speaker 2: is our biggest challenge right now?
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  Speaker 1: Our biggest challenge, I think we're standing in our own way,
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  Speaker 1: a powerful powerful. I think we're standing in our own
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  Speaker 1: way powerful. I think there is a lot that we
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  Speaker 1: can do to move ourselves forward without even waiting for leadership.
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  Speaker 1: And some of it is what we have talked about.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, again, I have worked with very passionate
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  Speaker 1: youth that are doing amazing things, and that is actually
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  Speaker 1: what drives me forward to say that we have the talent,
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  Speaker 1: we have the people. It's a matter of driving most
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  Speaker 1: of the people to where we need to be. African
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  Speaker 1: youth have amazing talent, incredible work ethic for you know,
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  Speaker 1: for for for the field, and so we just need
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  Speaker 1: to let the rest understand that there are people that
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  Speaker 1: are doing it and it's working. And so again, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't sit back on your laurels and say that
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  Speaker 1: you know, unemployment and this and that. Yeah, you know that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, even if I try, nothing happens. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying people are not trying, but there are people
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  Speaker 1: making it happen.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one time I heard pier Lu Lumumba said,
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  Speaker 2: the world is planning for Africa. What is Africa planning
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  Speaker 2: for the world or something like that. So it looks
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  Speaker 2: like there are people that kind of study this opportunity
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  Speaker 2: that exist here and systems almost immediately setting place to
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  Speaker 2: sabotage that.
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  Speaker 3: There there there are and so this multiple.
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  Speaker 1: Ways of the truth that you say, right, and so
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  Speaker 1: again the world is preparing for Africa, and so they
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  Speaker 1: see the opportunity and they come and unfortunately, fortunately or unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: there is the investment side of things, which is good
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  Speaker 1: for the continent. But this very thing that you know,
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  Speaker 1: a foreigner will come in to do. If a person
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  Speaker 1: in the land tries to do it, they get sabotaged.
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  Speaker 1: They get sabotaged. And I have experienced it myself, bringing
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  Speaker 1: investors in going into a I don't want to mention
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  Speaker 1: the office, but a governmental office, and they allow these
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  Speaker 1: people that do not look at me go straight through
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  Speaker 1: security and I get stopped to say, what is my mission?
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  Speaker 3: What am I coming to do here.
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  Speaker 2: In your own country, in.
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  Speaker 1: My own country, in my own country, in my own country.
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  Speaker 1: I have seen it at airports, you know, the white
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  Speaker 1: man just being let through, no questions.
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  Speaker 3: No vahala.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think Africa shua unite?
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  Speaker 3: Africa should absolutely unite.
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  Speaker 2: That was the crime of Colming Crumer. Yes, I think
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  Speaker 2: that place that will play a big grow.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think there is absolute unit power in
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  Speaker 1: numbers and strength in numbers, and I think that the
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  Speaker 1: continent needs to recognize that strength. And we can start
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  Speaker 1: by our own transport system and trade and making it
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  Speaker 1: easy to move between the continent. At the moment, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's incredibly hard trying to trying to get to certain
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  Speaker 1: parts of the continent. And why do we need visas? Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. Why do
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  Speaker 1: we need visas to visit at the nations in Africa
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  Speaker 1: and Africa? Why that that then poses as a deterror?
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  Speaker 2: Do you need about teletoo visas to move around Africa?
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's painful. I had something from Josham Mapunga,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know him, from Zimbabwe. He
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  Speaker 2: was explaining how that in Zimbabwe they still have to
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  Speaker 2: own pipelines on the pipelines to get fuel from Iraq,
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  Speaker 2: oh when they can just get hell from neighboring Angola.
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  Speaker 2: M So it looks like just by certain construct when
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  Speaker 2: we trailed ourselves, don't consider trading and I can't make
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  Speaker 2: sense out of it, you know, just thank god. Now Nigeria,
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  Speaker 2: the case is different. We have our own flud oil,
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  Speaker 2: but no functionary will find out until the private person
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  Speaker 2: came in. So we get the oil. We give it
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  Speaker 2: to them very fine. We buy back that we play
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  Speaker 2: subsidies if you can buy cheap. Do you think these
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  Speaker 2: are systems in place to head corruption?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, that's a wighty yes yes. And you
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: see it everywhere. You see it everywhere, and people are
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: not prepared to change the systems because at the end
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: of the day does not benefit them, And that is
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the most painful part you have. You feel like you're
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: having a thriving discussion on change and what could drive
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: change on the continent, and they will if they're close
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: enough to you, they will tell you that that's not
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that's not going to benefit us.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: See part of the difficulties you face when you come around. Yeah,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: for you, is this a lonely road?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It is, or it can be. It can be a
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: lonely road. But we can't stop. Do you sometimes feel
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you are wasting your time? Sometimes I have challenges. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: have challenges pushing some of our programs through, and sometimes
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it's by the very people that you feel should embrace it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: We have a job readiness program, for example, free online,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and we want to go into the universities and talk
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: about it, and everyone wants money before they can, before
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: they give us the platform. Why is that? And it
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: hurts me because I feel like, why aren't you seeing
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: that I am trying to help you, That's all I'm
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: trying to do. And yet it's all about filling our
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: stomachs for today. We're not looking long term, We're not
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: thinking long term, we're not thinking.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: About what we could set up up for our children's.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Children, the culture of nothinking long term. Do you think
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: that's a bit about trauma.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: It absolutely is.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Do you think that has also affected wealth creation in Africa?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It has, It has to a large extent, because people
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: will not consider the future of the country before the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: award contracts, for example, if it will not benefit them
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to a large extent.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: You're not getting it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: You're not getting it.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: God help you. If you refuse to pay bribes, it's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: not happening.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Weghana is better than Nyja is not.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't, I cannot say, I cannot say.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But but I believe there's room for improvement. There's room
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: for improvement in all nations and in both in both
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of the nations that you have mentioned.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: When I spoke with you, I felt really concerned. Whatever.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I put you on the plane, flew over fourteen hours
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: down here to see changes. And you get to the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: ground where you want to see those changes, and the
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: people will need those changes are asking you for money, yeah,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: before they can embrace your brother. That's the lonely road.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: It is, but we cannot give up because just for
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: a start, we just need a few that will embrace
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: it and hopefully people can see the change from where
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: they were to where they can go. And hopefully they
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: will see that, Ah if I had followed them a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: year ago or two years ago. At our last conference,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: there was a powerful analogy and I think he called
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: it the one degree challenge or the one degree difference
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and said, let's say both of us attend a conference
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and I keep going the way I'm going, and yet
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you you hear something that strikes accord with you, and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you decide.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: That I'll only make one change.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe it may be as simple as reading for
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: an hour every day. Yeah, maybe something as simple as
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I will hand in my CV five series every day
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: or you know, post online.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: You know every day.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: By the end of the year, you will see the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: difference that the one degree made.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: So you've had these programs where.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: We've had it in Ghana, then now Nigeria, now Nigeria.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: So you're meeting in Anjia. You want to want us
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: through what it looks like.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, So Dominate twenty twenty six is a youth Empowerment Conference.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And like we have mentioned all of our issues, we
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: can't just talk about them. We need to take steps
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to rectify them. And so this is a conference to
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: bring the youth together, to pour into the youth.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Our six main areas of us.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Of a focus is a financial literacy, entrepreneurship, relationships, mindset, coaching,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: leadership training, and career building. And so we're looking at
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a holistic African youth wow. And so they need you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: if you're going to earn, you need to learn how.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: To keep it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: We need entrepreneurs to move this continent forward. Relationships is
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a big one for me. And I know I've heard
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you talk about this also because when you have a
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: healthy family, the society is healthy, your township is healthy,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the nation is healthy. And it's important for us as
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a society, as a continent to get this right. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I keep speaking to the youth about this and say
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it's important to marry right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like a lot the generation before us endured
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: yes their marriages. We have an opportunity to enjoy and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: build something more. And so that's that's big for me
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: because I feel like that's a bedrock of any any community,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: any nation, and then we have our mindset coaching, because
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that definitely needs to change. We have leadership, we need
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to we need to teach seven seventh leadership and doing
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: leadership the right way, and then its career building is
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: about guiding them in terms of choosing their prospective careers.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Wo. Yeah, you know, recently in my mentorship academy, we're
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: discussing some of the heels of Africa, particularly Nigeria, and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: what we can do to tackle the problems a ground,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and most of us agreed that now we have to
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: focus on the next generation. There was something quite painful
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: about of our conclusions because the fact that there is
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: little or nothing we can do now to affect those
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: already formed in a certain way. So now if there's
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: going to be any of the country or any of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: for the continent, we've got to focus on the next
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: generation where we need to go. That's where you are. Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: do you how important do you think it is for
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: many people to join you on this journey?
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I cannot stress the importance of it because I feel
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: like there's many things that we take for granted. There's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: many things that, like we say, our society have shaped
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: our minds into thinking that oh, I have no hope
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: because look at our nation or you know, we say
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: we even spew outwards that we don't realize how powerful
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it is, like you know, ah, it's so hard, and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: it's become so casual that even when the thing is
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: not had, we've said it so many times that it
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: automatically rolls over our tongues and so it forms our
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: mindset and we don't even realize it that we're not
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: trying because we have, you know, built this mindset that
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it is hard. And you know, especially in Ghana, you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: just you know, just casually, you know, and and our
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: local dialect will say, hmmm, do you know, And it's
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: just means a life is tough. Yes, and you just
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: if you care to elaborate, the reason that we give
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: is very very shallow, very flimsy, very flimsy, very flimsy,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: like you know, why exactly are you saying this?
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: And why are you expressing this?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: But but it is, you know, but it is. And
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we have it easy in our continent.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that let's focus on the positives.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Do you get the vibrations from people who feel you
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: are only talking like this because you are opportunity.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely. They may not say it to my face,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: but I am very much aware of it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: But in essence, do you consider self privileged?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I consider myself privileged, but I feel that with privilege
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: comes responsibility. And that's why I come here. That's why
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I come back. That's why I come back. I could
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: easily stay in my privilege, definitely, and just care about
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: my nuclear family or maybe my parents and my siblings. True,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: but we have a responsibility. Do we have a responsible
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: When you know better, you need to teach better.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: True.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: And it may not be for everyone, but if there
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: is one or two that will take it, I believe
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: my job is done. I said it at last year's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: conference that I may be here for just the one
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: person because raising funds was tough, but I couldn't stop.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I said, maybe the next kof is in this room
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and they don't even know it. Maybe the next president
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of Ghana is in this room and they just need
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to hear something that will push them forward.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And if that is the reason why there's more than
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: a thousand people gathered here, my job is done.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: And so it's about passing on this positive mindset because
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you could say that, oh, you know, they don't even
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: listen anyway, or they're just gonna listen and go back
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to their old ways.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: But there may be the one, the one.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: There's this video on YouTube about famous drama now. He
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: is a famous drama now and I don't know if
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: you've seen it, but when he was in school, in
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: primary school, they called him a destructor because he just
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: couldn't stop drumming on the.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Table on his table.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And he took one.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Teacher to see the potential.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: It took one teacher to see the potential to say
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: it may be drumming, that isn't this child that just
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: cannot stop caught him drumsticks. I can't remember his name,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: but he is a famous drama wow.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: And doubt it. That was when I met you mhm.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: One of the first impressions I had in my heart.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I said to myself, this is a strong woman. The
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: way you carry yourself, the way you talk, your vision.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Now we have seen particularly it's quite loud now women
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: saying that we need libations. Mm hmm, which is true.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: If true people work at the same way, they should
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: be paid equally. Yes, no one should be paid less
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: because of their agenda. I want to talk about that
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: libation for women and the best context we can situate that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, m M.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: So, women's liberation, women's empowerment, ah so important, so important.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like the world has come a long way,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: and it's a global phenomenon. By the way, if you
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: look at tennis players and the females don't get paid
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: as much as the men, and the powers that be
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: can argue that, you know, they don't get as much
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: viewership as the men.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Do you think that argument is valid.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: When I'm not the one writing the checks. I am
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: not the one writing the checks. I am a business woman.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: But I believe, you know, especially for the you know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you're just using the Williams sisters as an example.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: You you they had you know, they filled.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: The stadiums, They filled the stadiums, and so in that case,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you know, yes, they ought to be paid as much
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: as as their male colleagues. And you know, if you're
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: in the office doing equally the same job, you have
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to be paid as much. And you know, my husband
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: has been very good at drawing my attention to this,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and I think even subconsciously, especially when you come and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you feel like someone has done a great job. Subconsciously,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I would tip the you know, and I say, I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: don't want to say, I say it with shame, but
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I would tip you know, the guys more than the women.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: And it's probably a cultural thing because you see men hunting.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: And forcing a lot more.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: You know. And I'm not saying this, but I want
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to see I want to see our young women because
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you see our young women are doing well. And I
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: don't want to be you know, put out of context
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: for this, but there are situations where I have been
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: in where you know, a lady will say, once they
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: have their job, they're comfortable, or I say that you
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: can do this and also do that, and they'll say,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: oh no.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I am fine.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: But a man will just grab onto it, or the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the you know, their male colleagues will say, you know, yes,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I will do this and this and do that for you.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: But and so that that was my thinking, that I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: have seen the effort in terms of how far he
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: has gone to produce to produce this, you know, And
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: so you know, my husband will say, it doesn't matter,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: just just.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Tip them all the same way.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, yes, if two people are in
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: an office and putting in the same for doing the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: same job. Yes, they ought to be paid equally. And
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: actually now, especially in Ghana, I think, especially in the banks,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: we have a lot of female CEOs. Yeah, I see
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: things like with the alumina. In the schools, the females
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: are much more organized. They do so much more than
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the mixed schools or your typical boys schools. And so
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: there is a case to be said that women are
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: organized and women are putting in the work. And when
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: this is the case, then the compensation ought to be equal.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Have you sofered anything, this regret been discriminated against.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Not personally, No, not personally.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: It's something you've observed.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: It's something I've observed. It's something I've observed.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Looking at the range of your programs across Africa, there
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: seems to be a lot focused on mindset development. Yes, leadership, entrepreneurship,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: you know, personal development and all that. Why is that?
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's the There is so much to be
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: said of a mindset shift, and until we place value
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: on that, I don't think that we can progress as
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: a continent. And this is practically true for two people
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: working in the same company, two people working in the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: same environment and one person deciding that apart from the work,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that I am going to improve myself in another way.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there is.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: There is a huge difference. There is a huge difference.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And we need to place value on things that are
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: not attached to cash or things that maybe you know
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: may not bring Like I said, monetary incentive incentives right now,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and that includes our youth volunteering for positions, volunteering to
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: help and internships are broad are part of the mainstay
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: very organized and every youth, even when they're not doing
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: an internship, you know, they are working a job that
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: teaches them that I need to earn for myself that
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: apart from what my parents give me, maybe they may
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: be giving me something bad. This this thing that I'm
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: earning for myself can give me so much more. Or
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you go for an internship where you are not paid,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: but the value that it brings to your mind, nothing
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: can replace that on your CV or on your resume.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: And so you have to realize that you're investing in
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: your future. Solet you are investing in your future. And
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I want to encourage the youth that even if that
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: means that investing in it, if that means that you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: have to pay for a course, if that means that
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: you have to go and work somewhere for free to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: be able to say that you have learned and that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I have this much experience.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Please, in the name of God, do it, do it?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Do it. There's a personal question on my mind that
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you're an I impact person. Have you ever been scared
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: of entering into certain rooms?
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Huh? Every day? What? Every day?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Every day?
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Every day? Every day?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: But that's what what, that's why personal development is important.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: So there are places you find yourself you get scared of.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: You get you get scared.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: You you're like, am I? Am I even worthy? Should
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I be here? Can I? Can I articulate myself in
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: a way that I should? But it doesn't stop me,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: really it does not. It scares me, but it can't
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: stop me.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: How do you push it?
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: You have to push And that's that's why we talk
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: about mindset shift. This is why we talk about mindset shift.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: When you know your identity and know that you're enough, yes,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and know that you are on a mission, you know
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: your purpose, yes, right, you enter a place and you're
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: just like, oh that seems don't take Yes, this is
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: only men or these people feel so much more accomplished.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: They're probably eyeing you and thinking the same thing. Definitely,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: They're probably looking at you thinking, oh, you know, we
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: saw her here, and we saw her there and this
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: is this is her topic of strength, and you know,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: maybe we cannot compare. So how do you how would
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you prevent yourself from even trying? What would you tell
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: yourself when you come when you come home that I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: didn't give myself that opportunity that I got into the room,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: but I was too scared because I felt like I
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't worthy. Wow, So it's a real thing. It's a
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: real thing. I don't want anyone, you know, sitting at
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: home thinking like you're saying that. You know, yes, she's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: used to being on stage and you know, and and if,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: by the way, just by the way, if public speaking
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: is your thing, go and try acting. Go Go and
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: take acting lessons, Go and take public speaking courses, because
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: it is something that will help you along the way.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: That's that's just again on speaking on personal development.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Do you act?
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I used to?
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I used to I didn't know God was preparing me
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: for this. I didn't know God was preparing me for
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: In Ghana in secondary school, I was always on stage
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: debating clubs poetry.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not sure you understand that our life breaking.
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  Speaker 2: This sounds the fact that every once in a while,
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  Speaker 2: every now and then, you have fears too. Everybody. I
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  Speaker 2: am sure everybody, everybody. And there isn't a time when
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  Speaker 2: I go and stand on stage to make a speech
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  Speaker 2: that I am I don't you know, I don't feel nervous.
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  Speaker 2: And I've watched many of your videos I saw online.
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  Speaker 2: I can't see that.
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  Speaker 1: You can see settings as they call it, interesting, settings
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  Speaker 1: as they call it. But but you speak to people
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  Speaker 1: and everybody has it. The difference is allowing it to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to overwhelm you or minimize you, or stop you,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: or pushing past it and doing it anyway. It's better
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  Speaker 1: for you to try and fail than not to have
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  Speaker 1: tried at all, because you be learned from our failures.
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  Speaker 1: John Maxwell puts it this way. Feel forward, Feel forward,
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  Speaker 1: Feel forward.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you second to the last question before
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  Speaker 2: little what's your biggest concern for Ghana?
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  Speaker 1: Biggest concern for Ghana? Huh, that's a deep question.
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  Speaker 2: Your president at the moment is Pan Africans. Yes, from
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  Speaker 2: where I stand, I love him. I don't know what's
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  Speaker 2: happening there right, what is policies his mindset? And I
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  Speaker 2: see him facing some similar problems from I went through.
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  Speaker 2: That's resistance from the land. Does that concern.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I was going to talk about that that. As
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  Speaker 1: much as we talk about a leadership crisis, sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it's not that we lack good leadership, because
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  Speaker 1: you see people get into positions and unfortunately do the
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  Speaker 1: very things that they said that they wouldn't. It's even
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  Speaker 1: more painful when you have people that you know come
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  Speaker 1: from the diaspora and you have certain rooms discussing the
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  Speaker 1: very same challenges and you expect that they take certain
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  Speaker 1: positions and that they would do better, and yet that
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  Speaker 1: doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 1: That is my fear that the system, I feel, maybe
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  Speaker 1: bigger than the individual that means well ah, and the
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  Speaker 1: system that's the people.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it is the people that make the system unfortunately.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 1: If you become a president, for example, and you do
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  Speaker 1: not your entire team does not carry your mindset, your
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: entire team does not carry the dream that you're carrying.
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  Speaker 3: Then you're in trouble. Then you're in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: And so that for me is my fear because we
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  Speaker 1: have seen it, irrespective of political parties, played out time
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  Speaker 1: and time and time again, and people get voted in
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  Speaker 1: for goodwill because they have talked to the talk at
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  Speaker 1: the talk, and people feel like they will come in
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  Speaker 1: and make the difference.
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  Speaker 2: Before I let you go, can you describe the Africa
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  Speaker 2: of your dream.
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  Speaker 1: The Africa of my dreams, the Africa of my dreams.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to see leaders that fight for the people.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to see a people that, irrespective of
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  Speaker 1: our challenges, we move forward, regardless of the regardless of
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  Speaker 1: the challenges, because there are challenges everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to see.
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  Speaker 1: Us go abroad just merely for holidays, not because of
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  Speaker 1: economic reasons. Yeah, I would love to see the systems
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  Speaker 1: work for the young and vibrant, vibrant minds that want
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  Speaker 1: to make so much change and bring so much change,
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  Speaker 1: because as much as we're encouraging them, like we have said,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes the system stands in the way.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to see the dream, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: is a dream where leaders are on the same page
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  Speaker 1: to drive the continent forward, and when they sit in
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  Speaker 1: international rooms that they're fighting for the nations, they're fighting
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  Speaker 1: for a continent that deserves so much more. That would
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  Speaker 1: be good to see. Wow, that would be good to see.
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  Speaker 1: Now I understand the reason why this kIPS bringing you back. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: to do what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: We look forward to working together with you beyond Njia
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  Speaker 2: across South African region. Yes, and you getting strong hands
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  Speaker 2: will share your passion and this important for the continent. Honor,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for.
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  Speaker 3: Coming, Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you