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Health, Fear & the Waiting Game: When Everything Gets Put Into Perspective · Wait... What's Next?

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that has a high ROI in terms of beauty or money, you just gotta go for it.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: More recent news.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: I know you've had a bit of a scary time.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so a couple weeks ago, I found a lump on my chest.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_01: My 30th birthday gift to myself was expanded health chest.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: I've had a doctor be like, oh, you don't need a Pop smear except for every two years.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: And let me just stop you there.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: Get a Pop smear annually.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: Get one every year.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: Every year.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: Never until the moment I got tested and I got that, I heard of that word.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_00: I would rather know than find out when it's too late for sure.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because your company pays everything as$20.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, absolutely, I'm gonna check my eyes, I'm gonna check my hair, I'm gonna check everything that I can that falls into this policy.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_00: And little did he know, a couple of weeks, a couple of days later, he came out and he was like, it was games and fun until something actually popped up on my scanner and he had a small tumor in his brain.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: How does your mindset immediately shift about whatever else you were worried about that week when it's related to your health?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_00: How are you?
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's my week and you are I did drop this week.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I dropped a glass bottle of olive oil on the kitchen floor two nights ago.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, that's not fine.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like oil is so hard to clean.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: I think I spent 45 minutes cleaning it.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: It was so bad.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then this morning, my entire coffee fell on the floor.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_01: So in the same spot.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I had to wash that kitchen rub twice.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: Is there something we need to talk about, Amanda?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like messages the universe giving me.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, something's happening.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Someone is trying to communicate with you on the other side.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, sometimes I feel that when I'm in a weird rush headspace, I drop a lot of things.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's so annoying and it irritates me, and I get even more annoyed.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't even rushing that.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: No, yeah, I don't know.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_01: I literally wasn't.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: I was reaching for chips behind the olive oil and knocked it with my arm.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_01: And then this morning was because Benny jumped up on the counter and knocked over my coffee.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, for me, sometimes I'm like, is my hand strength like not working?
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I dropping things?
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's just weird.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: I do think there is something to be said about slowing down because I do agree.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: When I'm rushing around, I notice I am more like clumsy and so I usually like slow down.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: Super clumsy.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: How's your week?
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: It was good.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_01: Also, the glass straw looks crazy in the shot.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: It looks insane.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: It looks kind of tasty though.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: What are you drinking?
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: Iced coffee with uh cold brew foam from Trader Joe's.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: You always drink coffee with a straw.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: I always remember that because you were like, I don't want my teeth to get tinted or whatever.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, I had two sets of braces.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: I paid money for these teeth.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I have whitened them to the point where we have insurance on this pile, dude.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: They're Hollywood white.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: I they're not veneer white.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_01: They look really nice.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_01: They look really nice.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: But I remember you always will say that, and I'll be like, should I do this?
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: I drink so much coffee and I also don't drink it fast.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: I linger through the day.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: Some is my dude yellow?
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully not.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing some white muscles can't fix.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, I know.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: I was actually listening about that, and there's some white stripes, strips, or whatever that you can do.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: But my biggest fear is pulling a Ross in friends when it's just neon white.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: And dude, I am not trying to do that.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's impossible.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: You can't really scar.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, there's no way.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, there's there's literally no way they get that white.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_01: So is your teeth would hurt so bad.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's what he said is that you have to be careful because your teeth kind of get sensitive and it just hurts.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: I thought I had permanent nerve damage to my tooth or something because I know the pain was so bad and it lasted for months.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder what that means.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm why why there's something on it.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's broxide or something.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, something makes sense.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: I literally was just listening to some podcasts about this, but anywho.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: My week was good, finished the week strong.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, I went last night, I went to see the LDC with one of our friends.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing movie.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing, so good.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: I and I totally forgot what it was gonna be like because I forgot.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: I read those books when I was 13, so I didn't even remember.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it took a little bit of catching up, but I don't know.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: I I really enjoyed it.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was not slow at all.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_00: It was three hours, it went by really fast.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: I brought that out because I was working in a project till the last minute, and we had plans of going to dinner and then going to the movies after, and we had to just rush through the whole process because I was literally working at the minute before we have to go into the movie.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: So that was that.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then today I had an appointment from not a facial, but again, just her laser removal, which those are really exciting because I think it's really helping my acne.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: But then I was there waiting for 30 minutes, and the girl came out and she was like, I'm running late.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm thinking, you're like 10 minutes 10 minutes late, it's fine, right?
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: But when it starts clocking 20, bro, I'm starting to get annoyed.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I got up and I was like, I'm going.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: Reschedule me.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I just left and I was like, I should have probably waited, but I was trying to make a point because no, when you're late, they actually cancel your appointment.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was just thinking, you have a 15-minute window, right?
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it should go both.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's a nine-minute window.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why it's always a nine.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: If you're nine minutes later at the 10 minute, literally they will cancel you.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's crazy.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't have a 10-minute anywhere, but I do have 15 minutes.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: So I just got up and I was like, and they're like, I'm so sorry.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I've been waiting for 45 minutes.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because I also showed up earlier.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I thought it was at 11 and it was actually 10:30.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I was already waiting for like a whole hour.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_00: I was over it.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be upset.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_01: I would be like, throw in a free facial.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say, I'm just gonna make a little bit of a fast.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: So then maybe tomorrow we'll give you a little discount.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: Are you going back tomorrow?
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going back tomorrow.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: Let me know.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: But that is to say, after this, because I've seen great results with my acne going away fully.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: I am gonna start doing microneidoline, which I this is the whole thing.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to really start doing it.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: I put hard stop on the buttocks.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not getting on buttocks yet until I start doing microneedling, and then I'll follow up.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: So that was my week.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think I'm gonna start doing hydrofacials.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: What's high it just hurts my wallet, you know?
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: What's high?
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: Oh dude, tell me about but it's an investment.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: It is hydrofacial anything that has a high ROI in terms of beauty or money, you just gotta go for it.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_00: Or not beauty, just staying, staying your best.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_00: What's your about this?
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the hydrofacial is a pen and it helps extract and moisturize and blah blah blah.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I I've had it done once and I liked it.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: You like that?
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: Do you like it more than micronidaline?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: They're just different.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: Depends on the goals.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think my goal is to do three micronidaline sessions every year.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you should.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: And then start adding little facials here and there.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'm gonna stay away from heat because I talk up a lot of people say that when you do laser treatments, I mean I'm already doing laser treatment for my hair, but you just really have to be careful.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, yeah, I'm not trying to just play around with heat if we don't have to.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: So it's better to stay with micronoline and stuff.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: But transitioning into more recent news.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: I know you had a bit of a scary time a couple of weeks ago or a week ago.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna let you tell that story because it's about health.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I think many of us can say we've been there when you texted me.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: I was trying to stay calm because I think we've always kind of seen the worst in those situations.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, I totally understand where you're coming from.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: So tell us what happened.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so a couple weeks ago, I found a lump on my chest, and not anything that's ever been there before.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's pretty noticeable.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: Literally.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: Question, did you you found it or they found it when you went to the doctors?
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: No, I found it.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: I was leaving a concert and I was just going like this on my chest.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_01: And right here, it's on, it's literally right here.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: I can feel it.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, what is that?
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Damon, there's a lump on my chest.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: And he was my boyfriend, and he was like, You're kidding, because he thinks I'm like health crazy.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, no, like, come here, there's a lump on my chest.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: So it is, it's right here, and it's about that long.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: It hasn't changed in size since I found it, but found it on Saturday night, called the doctor.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, actually, I went onto the portal like the next day.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: Immediately.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: Immediately, because I was like, I'm not going to mess around with this.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: Went to the doctor's that following Monday.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: So only two days from the day that I found it, and had her do the checkup so I could get a mammogram.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_01: So, and we're not recommended as women to get mammograms until we're 40.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: So is that?
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Can we talk about that real quick?
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's crazy.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: It is the advocating for women's health is just so insane to me because if it's not mammograms, even pap smears, I've had a doctor be like, Oh, you don't need a pap smear except for every two years.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: And let me just stop you there.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: Get a pap smear annually, get one every year.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Every year, especially if you're active, get one every year.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: And but for the mammograms, yeah, it's 40.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm 10 years before that.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm nowhere in the realm of even needing a mammoth needing a mammogram.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: But there's no history of breast cancer in my family.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like And that's why.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: So when there is history or like you can potentially have the DNA, the DNA, the gene, what happens is they actually start you at 30 or 32 or something, just to make sure that you know you already have that.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: At that point, if sometimes I feel this is when I advocate for you just got if you have to say something, like we have a far freaking family member that had it, because I honestly think preventing is better than the aftermath.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so why are we waiting until 40?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: Who came up with those stats?
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: I did actually hear a doctor saying you should start testing for those things when you're 30.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'll believe in 30 because to your point, it's preventative health.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_01: And but I did I got a mammogram and I got an ultrasound.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: So they did like the jelly and went over it.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's it's obviously higher than where your breasts actually are.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_01: I almost passed out during the mammogram.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: I actually texted one of my friends who does that for a living, and I was talking to her about it, and I was like, I'm not gonna lie, like I almost passed out, and she was don't even feel bad.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty normal.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of women actually also get kind of lightheaded and feel very faint when it's their first time.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's just awkward.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_01: You're standing there.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's also talk about womanhood, girlhood coded, because you are there with this other girl who you've never met, and she's handling your boob, and you're meeting another girl, and she's going over your boob, and it is just like a lot going on.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: Girl core, yeah.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: But it is really cool to see it's like women supporting women through and through.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: But you're standing there and it's like awkward, and I'm all stiff and have to like hold the thing and the thing's coming down, and it's not like my mom talking about mammograms when she was younger.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: I always thought that they took your boob and you know, painting them.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, how is that possible?
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't get it, dude.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Especially for I'm not gonna lay themselves care because I have nothing to press.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what what are they gonna do?
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's not painful, like it it's like very light pressure.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: It kind of just like came down and yeah, and I just stood there.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: But also, like when it was coming down on this part, it wasn't my favorite because that is where the bump is, and like I had a little sticker there.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then I did the ultrasound, and she's going over it.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then luckily the doctor was on site, so they looked at it right away and came back and told me it's nothing.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know what it is.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: All I know is that it's not lighting up as like a tumor where the blood is flowing directly there, it's it's not showing as a highlighted spot.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I was I texted a couple people about it and theorized like what else it could be.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody said it could just be dense breast tissue, could be a cyst, could be different things.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know what it is yet, and I haven't actually gone to the next step to see if I'm gonna find out.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: I did ask my doctor what would be the next option.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: And also, I'm watching it.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, it hasn't gone away, but it hasn't gotten bigger, it hasn't shown any other symptoms.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just I hate touching it.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm such a freak about my body and finding something like that.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, like, I don't want to touch that.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like the way that feels.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it's pretty new though, because you would have felt it before, right?
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I occasionally check, you know, you're supposed to like you're supposed to do that.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: And like I'll occasionally do that.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I've definitely like walked around and went like this before, you know, especially when you have anxiety, sometimes like tapping or going right here helps.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I just talk and touch my boots.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I'm not gonna lie, like it's just kind of like a thing.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I've definitely would have felt it at some point before.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know when the gap was that it formed.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: I just know that like this, my left side doesn't have it and my right side does.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: And now we're here.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: But it was very scary to be like, what is this?
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's like it's pretty big.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's emotional.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's a yeah, I that's what I also wanted to cover is like what was that emotional transition of sitting in those moments in between where you had no idea what could have been, and obviously your mind starts wandering and starts thinking the words and the big C word comes to mind, right?
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that for a lot of women, especially women, we're talking to women, and especially as you start getting older and your body starts shifting, there is, I mean, you think you're healthy and you're young and you can be doing all the possible things to be okay.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: The 10K steps, eating protein, eating the endogents, all doing all that, and still the test results can come off, can come out odd, and with something in it.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's when you kind of have to detach from there's just so much you can control.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: You can do what you can do, but at the end of the day, something sometimes happens, and we can even explain why.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: And there is that emotional roller cluster that you go through when you're sitting on those news.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: I've had it, I know a ton of people that have had it, and a lot of the times it's not shame, but people choose not to talk about it because I think talking about it kind of makes it real, and you're like, what is this gonna do?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: And you kind of just sit on those news.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm so glad you reach out to me because I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, I really want to hear from you, but I know another friend that has gone through that and it was a little bit more intense.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I was immediately able to give you peace in the fact that she's gone through it, and you can talk to her and learn more about it.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes going back to the community, and when you are able to meet people that have gone through the same process, it alleviates the transition and the hardship that is going through that.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: It shocks me how little we talk about these things.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: And if it's not mammograms, like there's another medical issue that I think is not talked about enough, and that's a pap smear and a kloposcopy, and what happens if you get HPV and all of that stuff, which is a whole nother story because it's not talked about in the same kind of thing.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: It's like once you say something to someone, and then all of a sudden you realize, wait a second, somebody else went through it.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so when I did text you when you told me that one of our friends went through it, and I texted her, and then I found out that not only did she go through it, but one of our other friends also had a mammogram.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I had no idea.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, literally no idea.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: And granted, the friend that I, you know, I originally connected with, our friend, hers was way different because it does run into her family, and hers was sounded more intense.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: And then to hear that our other friend, even hers, sounded like it was a little bit more intense.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: And but it was like, okay, I'm not the only one who is getting a mammogram way ahead of the recommended age to do it, and having this little bit of a health scare because nobody wants to feel a lump anywhere on their body, let alone in a place that's like, you know, like you said, the big C-word and like that area, especially, it's like women and that, and that's gonna happen.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: So it's scary.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: But being able to talk to them and it'd be like, okay, well, here's what it was for me.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Here are some of the other things it is.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it's not always the C word, it is possibly this and that and that.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, you'll get there and be okay.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: One of the things, too, like you asked me how it felt too when I first found out, it was kind of like, okay, well, that's scary.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then I was like, you know what?
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I can't sit here and think about every possibility.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I did get a massage the next day, and I did spend an hour thinking about the possibility, which I was like, that sucked.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: And it was not relaxing.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: But at the end of the day, like, I think for me, I kind of had the mindset that until I know, I'm not gonna freak out because it could be nothing, and I don't want to spend X amount of time freaking out when at the end of the day I'm okay.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: So that's I tried to keep that mindset.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: I tried to keep it a little more realistic to one, I know, I know, but there's no use in getting worked up right now.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's so important for us to have this conversation, and also since you've been through it, I've been through my fair share of things as well.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's so important to just kind of start creating a plan on how to navigate those situations because at some point I think everybody is gonna go through it.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: And for me, uh specifically, when that happened to me with like a completely different result, I immediately just went to Chat GPT.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: And the reason why I recommend doing this is because I think knowledge gives you a peace of mind.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know what you don't know, and that's when your mind starts wandering.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think that Western medicine is very, very useful in terms of testing, in terms of all the technology that is coming.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: We can absolutely utilize that.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I do think that sometimes doctors can be very vague in how much information they provide to you.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I come out of those appointments a little bit frustrated because I don't think that.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yes, they probably have a million cases that they're working through.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: And most likely more of those cases are more intense than mine, but it doesn't make it any less important because at the end of the day, everyone is in their own journey and your health is the most important thing and asset that you can possibly have.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: I get the point that they can't give you the level of attention and provide the information that you need because of their time constraint.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, it doesn't make my health less important.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so sometimes I feel that you have to take ownership of your own health and utilize the tools that you already have, which is the testing, you get all that.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: And also now that we have AI, it can really help us navigate.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what does this mean?
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember just I would take a screenshot all of my tests, post it on day, and it would be like, it could be this, it could be this, it could be this.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: And for somebody who's your age, you give so much information.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: By the time I was talking to my doctor, I knew so many things already, and I also knew what to ask.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: It preps you to ask the right questions because sometimes they can miss something, and if you ask something, that can very much change your own experience.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's one, and then two, to your point, Amanda, it's really good to reach out to your community, to your friends, because it really helps when you can hear from somebody else.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: When I had my situation, I know you had it, I know so many other people had it, and I was like, oh my God, why did I never until the moment I got tested and I got that, I heard of that word.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: I never even knew what that meant, what that was.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so in the beginning, it was like so stressful because again, I was just sitting on those nails and I had no idea.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then I think not to minimize what it was, because you still need to get tested and follow up and get things done.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: But I think when you hurt other people, it really kind of helps you bring down the stress and let go and be like, it's gonna be okay.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like we're gonna navigate this and just do it with a peace of mind.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's why I wanted to have this conversation today for anybody who's going through it, for people that are even testing and healthy and testing and not healthy.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think having the conversation is really helpful.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: And we're all going through it.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: I also want to touch on the whole like AI and Googling things because I think all of us have probably ended up on the Web MD spiral.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: No Google, though, because Google gives you the big C.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: If you Google anything, like cancer.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: You got cancer.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's the WebMD spiral.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: And now obviously that's shifted with the different resources we have.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: And if anything, I think it's useful in understanding what questions you should ask.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I actually tried to stay away from it because I didn't want to freak myself out before I knew.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: And so what helped me more was actually reaching out to my friend who does the mammograms for a living.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: That is her job.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: She is that girl that's doing it.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: And she was the one that was like, you should ask for this and this.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: And so when I went to my first doctor's appointment, I don't know if that made a difference or if maybe that doctor would have recommended it anyways, because she didn't seem too much older than me.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: So after we were doing our check and she felt it and she was like, okay, I'm going to recommend this and this, which is exactly what I asked for.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: Would she have recommended it if I didn't ask for it?
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: Probably.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: I want to say yes because there is a lump there.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's not I'm making it up.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: But the second half of that is when I went and got the mammogram and the ultrasound, and they're just like, oh, there's nothing there.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there's not nothing because I feel it.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: My mom feels it.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: All of my friends, my family have felt it.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: I've had everyone be like, look, it's I'm not crazy, right?
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's there.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: So that part was frustrating because now, well, what is it?
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like you can tell me it's nothing, but at least tell me what it could be because there's something there.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I haven't really gone through the spiral of asking ChatGPT or Googling it or anything because I think at this point I'm kind of focused on figuring out what it actually is instead of theorizing what it could be.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: That being said, other things in my life that I have had diagnosis with or whatever it is, I have, you know, looked it up.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: I've dumped data into ChatGPT and explained this to me.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: I did preventative health not too long ago.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: I did a yearly test and then a mid-year test.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: And so it was a full blood panel.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: And for somebody who I think I live a pretty healthy life, you know, I think anybody who listens to our podcast has probably figured out by now that you and I are very health conscious.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: We try to work out, we try to eat right, all of these things.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I have high cholesterol.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: And it was so funny because the first time I found out, I was with my normal doctor, my primary care.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: And it was kind of like, well, do you walk enough?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: Do you exercise enough?
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I mean, I live in New York.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: I do 14,000 steps daily.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: And then it's okay, well, stay away from these foods.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like looking at me, you can probably assume that I lift weights, I eat healthy, I stay away from those foods.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's pretty safe to assume that.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I have moved to San Diego.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: I've done that blood test again.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: I still have high cholesterol.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's so crazy.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Is your family have high cholesterol?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's genetic.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's genetic.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: Both my parents have it.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: And same thing with my mom.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: If you looked at my mom, you would be like, that is a physically fit woman.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: Conductively speaking.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: She works out, she lifts heavier than me.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: She eats well.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't think anything of it.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, her BMI is in the right range, and she has really high cholesterol.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Hers is at the point now where she's actually going to go and do some other tests.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, speaking of advocating for yourself, she's gonna go and do the extra steps to make sure that everything else is okay.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we are in a time when we have access to so much medicine.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I almost kind of envy the people who don't care.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: My boyfriend's one of those people where he has some stuff that runs in his family.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, are you just sitting here?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you're not worried?
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like I would be simmering, yeah, simmering whatever is happening.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, I'd be getting the test.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, I don't think I've gone to the doctor for three years.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, he'd probably go get a physical.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, I'm there like, I take advantage of my insurance.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'll pay that deductible.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know that I have to meet a minimum and all that stuff, but I will take advantage of it because I want to make sure that I maximalize my maximalize my life, even though like you can't prevent everything.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: But I would rather know than find out when it's too late for sure.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's when you know that going to doctors, my mom, she pays for her own insurance and benefits and all of that.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's so expensive when you know how expensive it is and your copay because your company pays everything is$20.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, absolutely, I'm gonna check my eyes, I'm gonna check my hair, I'm gonna check everything that I can that falls into this policy because I am not trying to pay this.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how long it's gonna last.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I actually, you know, something that's to your point about technology, there are these new scanners that are coming out.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_00: I know one that is called Prenovo, which I think I want to do that eventually, which is a full scanner of your body.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I talked to my mama about it.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I think we need to do it because it just gives you a full picture of where you're at, and it's just very preventive, right?
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, maybe because I was talking about it.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember Joe, the guy that was in the bachelorette back in the day when not bachelorette, I think he was in the bachelor?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Joey.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um we call him Joey the Farmer's Market guy because he used to have a farm farm market, and Lauren was obsessed with him.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: I I was scrolling on TikTok and he came up and he was promoting, I guess he was doing an advertisement for Prenugo.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: And little did he know, a couple of weeks, a couple of days later he came up and he was like, it was it was games and fun until something actually popped up on my scanner and he had a small tumor in his brain.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Do you see that?
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't see that, but there is somebody else I follow who also did a preventative health scan and found something.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then investigated it.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so I know about the company you're talking about.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: The preventative health care blood panel that I did is specifically through Function, Function Health.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of I really like their model.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: I like how they're like, they basically claim it's one dollar a day to pay for that year membership, and then there's all the add-ons.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_01: But they partner with Ezra, and it's the same deal.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's a MRI, it's your body, you can do the add-ons.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I have thought about doing it.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm still like 50-50 because I kind of want to, but there's also that risk that you do it, and sometimes the stuff that you find isn't necessarily like the worst, even though it might look like something concerning because you find something, but it doesn't mean that it's the end all.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: But I have no idea about Joey doing it.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: But there's something to be said, like the tools are out there.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: I wish it doesn't look accessible, it should be accessible.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of, I mean, Brinwhat is like$1,200 to do the full scan and they give you the full results.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then as you said, you can do the add-ons to actually sit down and talk to a doctor and a specialist or whatever.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I'm like, give me the results, I'll figure it out.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I do think we are moving forward and faster towards this direction where I do think that it's good money to, I don't think$1,200 is even a lot of money to be able to get a full picture of where you're at.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: And it's better than paying millions or dollars because it's like or thousands of dollars when you actually have a sickness or illness and you have to deal with that.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like doctors and surgeries and all of that is so expensive.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I am hoping that society is moving towards that direction.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: But seeing that and how I love going back to his profile and how you know everything is lifeful and like whatever, and he has his girlfriend, and all of a sudden it just became serious, and then he had to go through surgery, they took it out, and then he comes off and he was well.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: I hope this thing, you know, they can take it out, and it doesn't, I mean, there's so much risk going into your brain.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, It saved my life.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, literally, he was going to die eventually.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_00: It was crazy, and so not not to scare you or anything, like I'm just saying that it's so important to take this thing serious and do it early, so then you don't have to deal with the anxiety of the what ifs, right?
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think we, and that's why I think people are living longer and better because you know, back in the day when people didn't have any idea of what was going on in their bodies because they literally only tested when something fell off.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I think once something feels it's painful, sometimes that is already too late.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: I just think that I really advocate for that, and I'm all about being natural.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think once you have the full picture, you don't have to get on medicine, just you have a bigger idea of where you're at, and then you can start doing research on your own on what you can do to do better.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_00: But to your point, even if you do everything right, there's genetics.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my family also has high cholesterol.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: And my mom has high cholesterol, my brother has high cholesterol, which my brother is he was very skinny growing up, and he actually had cholesterol in the other way around.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how is that?
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like you there's two types of not cholesterol.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: It was no, there is two types.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: There's good types good and there's the bad, and you can use high and good and high and bad, and it can like you can light up as high, but then you have to figure out what am I actually doing.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: Where are you?
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, in those things, I think there's just so much you can do.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, at that point, it's just kind of navigating it, but yeah, it's just crazy what genetics can also do to you.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: I have a question for you, Amanda, because I think this is a second part of something that I wanted to talk about.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: When you find out these type of things, and I also want to talk about it, say that you were going through something, navigating something harsh that week.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like something at work, something maybe your friends, your relationship, whatever.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: When you get this type of news, or when you are going through this, how does your mindset immediately shift about whatever else you were worrying about that week when it's related to your health?
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think health just puts things in perspective when you realize that, and I've seen other people talk about this, right?
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: When they're facing something that is a health scare, and an actual serious one, not to say that anybody's isn't serious, but I know that.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I know now that whatever it is, at least wasn't bad enough to light up on a mammogram.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: But I think in general, it's kind of like you can spend all your time worrying about hitting a KPI at work, right?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: And you're stressed and you're worried.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: But at the end of the day, that's not your life necessarily.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that your health and your livelihood is so much more important than a lot of the stressors we deal with.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: And perspective is a big thing.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: I talked to one of my friends about this the other day.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Something different than health related, but just a general idea of like, you can be so stressed out in your job and you can hate it, but you can have a great job.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you have to decide that perspective, or you can be unemployed and you can be unemployed for a year, two years, not able to find anything and dealing with that stress.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: So for this person, it's like, is it that bad?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: Look at this person.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: And same thing with health, it's the same kind of stress.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay, I found this out.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: Everything else that I was thinking about, like, how does that compare?
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I think just in general, it's easier to prioritize yourself.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: I did want to say too, going back to the preventative health stuff, my 30th birthday gift to myself was my preventative health test.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: I got all of my, yeah, I did my annual test right before I turned 30.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: I got all of my results like the day before my birthday.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I liked it, especially because everything, like you can click into it, you can see what it means, there's details, information, it really breaks it down.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then the service that I use also provides an explanation of what kind of supplements will counteract that, what kind of eating, health, physical exercise, which is you know the natural way of preventing some of this.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: And so that was really cool to see.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: So, like Brazil nuts.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: Brazil nuts are one thing that were associated to one of my slightly elevated levels and how Brazil nuts could help it.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: And that's such an easy thing to incorporate to one or two nuts a day.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: I always say medicine is health, like no, food is medicine.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I always say that if you start in utilizing the food that you eat, you never have to take a pill in your life.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I completely agree with that.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, no, I completely agree with you on the different perspectives.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know why when I was writing and thinking about the episode today, I was thinking that you are a walking blessing every day.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: When you're able to wake up and nothing hurts, at the very least, you can see, you can work out, you can go on a walk, you can move your body, you can eat all of those little things that seem that you do on the day-to-day automatically in autopilot, they're so they become so big that they you find out that something is actually wrong.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: And when you hear people that have gone through maybe having cancer and then they battled it for many years and then it's gone, they always say, I always, you know, I when I got it, I just thought of the last moment that I had coffee.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I just it just goes back to this little mundane task that we do and take for granted every day, and how those little simple moments become so huge for somebody who's going through that and thankfully who has gone through the other side.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: But my message is this don't wait until that happens to think of these moments as big as they are.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because if we live in that perspective, and I'm not saying like, don't wake up every day and be like, I'm not sick, yay.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying wake up every day and really truly focus on the moment and enjoy every second of it.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: You never know what can happen.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: You can do everything, right?
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: And at the end of the day, you don't know what can happen.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: It really can come out of nowhere.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that living a full life, being grateful for what you have and the body that you're given, because also, I don't know if this happens to you.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: There's days when you feel off.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: There's days where you're like, I go to the gym and I'm not feeling well, like I'm not feeling where my body is where it's supposed to be, or I'm feeling bloated, or whatever else.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: All of the things that I have a wrinkle in one eye, all of these things that we constantly keep telling ourselves, and my our mind goes, it also this gives us perspective to give ourselves grace and love our body the way it is.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: You can't always work towards something, but you can do it while loving what you already have.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: Grateful is the same word that came to mind for me too when you were saying that, because it is being grateful for being able for the things that you have.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like I woke up today, I was able to do this instead of getting so hung up on maybe the things that are stressing us out.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think this episode is for anybody who's going through some kind of anxiety relating to health.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_00: That is not to minimize it.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter how small it is or if it's really big.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: We're all going through it.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: I hope that we were able to share some tools and mechanisms that you can use to help you navigate those situations.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: Always find community.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think that is so important.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: Reach out to your friends, reach out to your people.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: Chances are somebody has gone through that and it can help you navigate those situations better.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, you're not alone.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: So, and this can happen at any age 20s, 30s, 40s.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: I honestly think I've been hearing a lot of people early on in their 20s with a lot of issues as well.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: Things that I never even thought about in my 20s.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: So it's never too early or too late.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: And we really wanted to raise that awareness in this conversation today.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_00: Or if you know somebody who's going through it, that's the call to action.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: Share it, share this episode, and also connect with us through our link here in the show notes.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's really easy.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: Tell us your story.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: We want to start talking about it more and continue the conversation with the community that is listening up.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: So doing the little quick wrap-up, I know Amanda didn't call it out, but I just wanted to make sure that people know where to find us and how to connect with us.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we'll see everyone next week then.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, wait, okay, we'll wrap it up.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see you guys next week.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh give us questions, let us know how you feel, and we'll talk to you guys next.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.