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ITB on WBCB: Former Eagles OL Barrett Brooks joins Geoff Mosher, Andrew DiCecco To Break Down Birds · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Pro Football Report presented by BCWSA, a
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  Speaker 1: weekly recap of your Eagles and news around the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: We now go live to Chickis and Peats for the
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  Speaker 1: Pro Football Report presented by BCWSA. Now Here are your
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  Speaker 1: hosts from Inside the Birds, Jeff Mosher and Andrew didcheck O.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, you're listening to the Pro Football Report presented
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  Speaker 2: by BCWSA right here on fourteen ninety WBCB at one
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Mosher from Inside the Birds in Philly Voice.
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  Speaker 2: I'm joined, of course by Andrew Decheco from Inside the
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  Speaker 2: Birds dot com. And we are live at Chicky's and
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  Speaker 2: Peats in mol What a great crowd we got here,
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  Speaker 2: also expecting just momentarily to be joined by former e
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  Speaker 2: Eagles offensive lineman Barrett Brooks, the Star Star Eagles analyst
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  Speaker 2: on NBC Sports and Andrew, we're going to be talking about,
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  Speaker 2: of course, and Eagles another get right win. They enter
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  Speaker 2: the by this week they are six and two. And
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you this because it's a common theme.
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  Speaker 2: We don't always dabble in the extraneous storylines. But the
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  Speaker 2: idea of a payback that the Eagles delivered to the
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  Speaker 2: Giants celebrated that week six week. I mean, you saw
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  Speaker 2: guys taking their shirts off and posing on camera and
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  Speaker 2: everything like that. Well, the Eagles returned the favor with
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  Speaker 2: a SmackDown of the road.
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  Speaker 3: Was a payback well, I mean, and for the Giants case,
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  Speaker 3: act like you've been there before, but they haven't. But
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  Speaker 3: in the Eagles case, that was never the topic of
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  Speaker 3: conversation in the locker room, Jeff. It was all about
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  Speaker 3: doing what they need to do, staying disciplined and really
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  Speaker 3: honing in on the details and not necessarily fixating so
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  Speaker 3: much on what the Giants did in the previous matchup.
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  Speaker 3: Go out there be the more physical team. He saw
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things that were really intriguing, like the
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  Speaker 3: running game take shape. And much like George Costanza, they
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  Speaker 3: leave for the bye week on a high note.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's the bye week of the Eagles. Yeah, summer
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  Speaker 2: of George, bye week of the Birds, whatever, But yes
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  Speaker 2: they leave on a high note. It's great.
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  Speaker 4: And not only that, Andrew, as we continue to.
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  Speaker 2: Look at a from a big picture standpoint, very tough
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  Speaker 2: part of the schedule. I mean, They opened the season
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  Speaker 2: against their rivals, the Cowboys, right. It wasn't the prettiest game,
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  Speaker 2: but they won. Sure, then you had to play all
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  Speaker 2: these playoff teams, including the Rams, right, and then you
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  Speaker 2: play the Broncos, which was.
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  Speaker 4: A tough game.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, week after week the Eagles were playing
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  Speaker 2: some pretty tough teams. And this was supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs right rematches set Ball. It was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be one of the toughest legs of their schedule,
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  Speaker 2: and despite their flaws, to go in at six and two,
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  Speaker 2: and even when they lost two games, it's not like
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the NFC East was catching up and
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  Speaker 2: not like the rest of the NFC was pulling away.
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  Speaker 2: They're in a pretty good spot here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it goes beyond that, because we saw a
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  Speaker 3: lot of different things in that game that we've been
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  Speaker 3: looking for all season from the team. They were able
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  Speaker 3: to play a complete game all four quarters, the running
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  Speaker 3: game two hundred and seventy six rushing yards two hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty four by the way, combined for Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 3: and Tank Bigsby. I thought Kevin Patullo, the Eagles offensive coordator,
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  Speaker 3: had his best game of the season by far. The
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  Speaker 3: defense was able to get to Jackson Dart five times.
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  Speaker 3: Just a really complete win for the Eagles, who really
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  Speaker 3: dominated the Giants in this matchup from powar to post.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they absolutely did. It was no question the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that we can all agree.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about what was really important from the game
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  Speaker 2: and what maybe people are making.
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  Speaker 4: Too much of.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, the important thing is that the Eagles rediscovered their
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  Speaker 2: ground game, right, And I understand the sentiment that the
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  Speaker 2: bye week comes at a very difficult time because they
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  Speaker 2: finally got their ground game together and now they got
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  Speaker 2: to wait, you know, more than two weeks because they're
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  Speaker 2: the next game is Monday night against the Packers. But
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  Speaker 2: that the important thing is they rediscovered the ground game,
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  Speaker 2: not only for Saquon Barkley, but you mentioned Tank pigsby right.
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  Speaker 2: They dominated the Giants and the trenches in a way
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  Speaker 2: that they had not done for the first seven games,
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  Speaker 2: even in their wins. That to me is the most
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  Speaker 2: important item coming out of the game.
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  Speaker 3: I think for Mey Jeff and you bring up some
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  Speaker 3: interesting points there. The biggest takeaway for me was the
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  Speaker 3: offensive line executing in the way that they did. From
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  Speaker 3: the second play of the game, Jordan Malatta steals off
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  Speaker 3: the left side, Landon Dickerson blocks three players on one play,
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  Speaker 3: and then it just became Saquon Barkley verse safety Tyler
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  Speaker 3: Nuban and he was off to the races. But from
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  Speaker 3: then on, they set the tone, They dictated what they
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  Speaker 3: were going to do in that game, and it reminded
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  Speaker 3: me a lot of twenty twenty four. And they got
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  Speaker 3: a really good performance out of center, Brett Toath making
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  Speaker 3: his first career start at center, and that made all
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  Speaker 3: the world of a difference, keeping that line together and
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  Speaker 3: really complimenting what they are had there one.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Brett Toath was the guy under the microscope.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, he's at center. They're gonna have issues. Well
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  Speaker 2: they didn't.
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  Speaker 4: They had no issues. They did.
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  Speaker 2: Let's so let's translate that to going forward because I
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  Speaker 2: agree with you. I think the biggest takeaway was that
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  Speaker 2: looked like the twenty twenty four offensive line, not only
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  Speaker 2: from a dominant standpoint, but from an execution standpoint. If
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  Speaker 2: you watch the Saquon Barkley touchdown on the second play
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  Speaker 2: of the game, what you see is something you saw
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  Speaker 2: commonly last year, which is nobody touched the guy right right.
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  Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley led the NFL last year in yards before contact.
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  Speaker 2: He was one of the worst, not he, but they
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  Speaker 2: were one of the worst yards before contact runners for
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  Speaker 2: the seven weeks into this game and then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden a difference and that you can only attribute
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  Speaker 2: to the offensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of reach blocks that particularly
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  Speaker 3: Landon Dickerson again had his best game of the season,
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  Speaker 3: Brett Toath getting out in space, showcasing some athleticism. There
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  Speaker 3: was one play I think it was a twelve yard
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  Speaker 3: Sakuon Barkley run where he completely buried cornerback Drew Phillips.
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Steen had a nice block on that play.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: But there was the pins and the polls, and there
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  Speaker 3: was a lot more variation this game in the running game,
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  Speaker 3: and they were able to get it going. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that was any coincidence.
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  Speaker 2: No, But that's a great segue into what I think
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  Speaker 2: might be a little overstated about what we've seen from
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles offense both against the Giants in the last
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  Speaker 2: two weeks. I give them credit as a staff, as
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  Speaker 2: a team, right, Yep, that has come under a lot
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  Speaker 2: of criticism offensively for introducing some new concepts going under center.
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  Speaker 2: The Eagles did it for the first time quite a
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  Speaker 2: bit against the Vikings. It didn't work very well for
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  Speaker 2: a run game. No, it's Sae Kwon Barkley ran for
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  Speaker 2: twelve sixteen yards on twelve carries from under center. But
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  Speaker 2: they didn't say, oh, well, screw it, we're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: do let's abandon it. Right. They brought it back even
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  Speaker 2: more against the Giants, and then you saw that. Plus
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  Speaker 2: you put Fred Johnson out there on about nine or
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  Speaker 2: ten of those snaps under center and add a little
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  Speaker 2: beef up front, and then you see the run game
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  Speaker 2: go okay. But to your point, it's the execution that mattered.
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  Speaker 2: The wrinkles are things that can help you. They're things
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  Speaker 2: that a defense may not have practiced against as much.
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  Speaker 4: They can be an assistance.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't want people to look at the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: the last two weeks and say they got to be
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  Speaker 2: an under center running team.
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  Speaker 4: This is the cure, because that's the case exactly.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of their shortcomings offensively and at least in
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  Speaker 3: my estimation, Jeff, stem from lack of execution and I
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  Speaker 3: think you saw what happens when you're able to execute
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  Speaker 3: your plays and everything's everything suddenly looks a little bit
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  Speaker 3: better designed when players are executing and the holes are
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  Speaker 3: there and all of that. But I also think that
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  Speaker 3: Kevin Patula deserves some credit here. They typically have leaned
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  Speaker 3: on either Grant Calca Terra Kylon Granson in twelve personnel,
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  Speaker 3: and they're not ideally suited to do that. They're not
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  Speaker 3: in line blockers. But what they did and what they've
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  Speaker 3: done the past two weeks have implemented Red Johnson in
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  Speaker 3: terms of their jumbo package, and they're trying everything to help,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, initiate the running game. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: he deserves a lot of credit from not necessarily just
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  Speaker 3: continuously rolling out the same personnel groupings and and things
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  Speaker 3: like that. He's trying different things and being a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more creative. Dallas Goddard, by the way, how he's
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  Speaker 3: utilizing Dallas Goddard, I don't think we've seen in recent years.
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  Speaker 3: So there's there's been some things that they've done offensively
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  Speaker 3: that have really caught my eye.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I both spoke to a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: players after the game on Sunday. And one of the
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  Speaker 2: things I glean from that is exactly what you're pointing to,
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  Speaker 2: is that Kevin Petullo from the get go, from the start,
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  Speaker 2: wanted to introduce some new concepts into the red zone offense.
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  Speaker 4: And it's the one thing that.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you're the biggest Kevin Petullo critic in the world,
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  Speaker 2: which right now it feels like there's millions of them,
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  Speaker 2: just to hear in the Delaware.
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  Speaker 3: Mountain, not anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let's say it's one game.
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  Speaker 2: You have to acknowledge that when the Eagles get into
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  Speaker 2: the red zone, not only are they impactful with an
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  Speaker 2: eighty five percent scoring chance that is number one in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL right now, but it is not just tush push.
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  Speaker 2: And like last year running with Sakuon Barkley and getting
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  Speaker 2: in they have used god he very creatively. You're talking
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  Speaker 2: about shovel pass, you're talking about the little flip, the
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  Speaker 2: late tush push for him where they got one the
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  Speaker 2: RPO yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Or Sunday, Yeah, led to the touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: They have clearly what he has done in this ren
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  Speaker 2: zone has clearly made a difference for this team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it should always have been expected that it
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  Speaker 3: was going to take some time for Kevin Petula to
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  Speaker 3: get his feet under him. And play calling is not
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  Speaker 3: it's an art, it's not a science. And you could
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  Speaker 3: look at this star studied cast and players that he
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  Speaker 3: has to work with and ask yourself, how could they
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  Speaker 3: hand the keys to the offense to a coordinator who's
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  Speaker 3: never called plays. Well, it has more to do with that,
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  Speaker 3: and there's more that meets the eye with that. Because
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: Nick Seriani has worked with Kevin Batulo for a number
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  Speaker 3: of years, he knows exactly where his processes lie, where
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  Speaker 3: his in term of just game planning and his offensive mind,
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  Speaker 3: and he had faith that he was going to figure
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  Speaker 3: it out. So he was learning on the job. But
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  Speaker 3: you're starting to see a little bit more of a
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  Speaker 3: confident play caller, and that really manifested Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: I noticed Kevin Patullo and Jalen Hurts having a really
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  Speaker 2: long animated in a good way. Yes, when I say animated,
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  Speaker 2: they both seemed very excited as we were engaged as
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  Speaker 2: you would think after a huge win like that over
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  Speaker 2: your division rivals. In the locker room, right, Usually sometimes
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  Speaker 2: when people talk they want to be private, but they
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  Speaker 2: were in the locker room, and I couldn't hear what
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  Speaker 2: they were saying, but they had the hand gestures going like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they were clearly excited about something that they were in
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  Speaker 2: tune with in the game, and they wanted to like
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  Speaker 2: really reflect on that because you know, you got a
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  Speaker 2: week off, you want to carry all these good vibes over.
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  Speaker 2: But I thought that was a good sign.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you never want to just make light of Well,
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  Speaker 3: it was just the Giants.
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  Speaker 2: It's how the Eagles won that game.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't skate by even though they were missing critical
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  Speaker 3: pieces like AJ Brown and Cam Jurgens. I thought that
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  Speaker 3: they were very much in sync on all fascet to
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  Speaker 3: the game, offense, defense, and special teams. And then you
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  Speaker 3: talk about seeing Kevin Patula and Jayalen Hurts talking it
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  Speaker 3: over in an engage conversation, a very positive conversation conversation,
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  Speaker 3: and it seems like this is the type of win
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  Speaker 3: that they can certainly build off of, and they need
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  Speaker 3: to because the slate of games coming up after the
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  Speaker 3: bye week doesn't get any easier.
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  Speaker 2: Right as we wait on, Barrett Brooks here will be
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  Speaker 2: joining us momentarily. I want to ask you this because
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to get into this the trenches.
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  Speaker 4: With Barrett, and then just the overall locker room feel.
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  Speaker 2: You're you're in the locker room all the time, as
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  Speaker 2: far as you know your job with Inside the Birds
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  Speaker 2: dot Com, which you're excellent app By the way, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a little biased. Yeah, I just gonna say you might
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  Speaker 2: be a little biased there, but I'm I do want
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  Speaker 2: to switch gears a little bit away from the run
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  Speaker 2: game and ask your honest feeling on the AJ Brown
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  Speaker 2: situation right now. I mean, I feel like this is
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  Speaker 2: part of the goodness of going into the buy. It's
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  Speaker 2: out of the it's out of the landscape for.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean he's clearly sending messages cryptic ones through
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  Speaker 2: social media, and that's threatening the fact that the Egles
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  Speaker 2: have a good thing going on right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's obviously a topic of conversation, and what I
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  Speaker 3: want to first say before we delve into it, Jeff,
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  Speaker 3: is that AJ Brown is beloved by his teammates. He's
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  Speaker 3: very well liked. There's a reason why he's a captain,
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  Speaker 3: and he very much enjoys and appreciates being a part
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  Speaker 3: of the Photelph Eagles. Everything that I've gathered suggests that now.
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  Speaker 3: Is that to say that Aj Brown isn't frustrated, No,
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  Speaker 3: he is frustrated. He knows how he can impact the game.
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  Speaker 3: There are times this season where I'm sure he would
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  Speaker 3: like to be force fed the football because he knows
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  Speaker 3: the impact that he can have. And sometimes you look
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  Speaker 3: at an athlete and you wonder, Okay, he had two
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  Speaker 3: touchdowns against the Vikings, why isn't he happy. I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times, what makes certain people great, certain
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  Speaker 3: athletes great, certain people, and what we do great is
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  Speaker 3: that you're never satisfied. You always want more, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's the case with AJ Brown. He knows that
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  Speaker 3: he works hard for a reason and he wants to
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  Speaker 3: be a focal point of the offense in and week out,
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  Speaker 3: and that's just not the way that the Eagles play football.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the way that they play offensive football with
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles. It could be his week one week, it
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  Speaker 3: could be Devonte Smith, could be Saquon Barkley, and they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna share the wealth, and I think that's something that
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  Speaker 3: probably frustrates him, knowing that it's not really going to change.
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  Speaker 3: This is a foundation that they've built and he's you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's a.
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  Speaker 5: Part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say for his career as an Eagle,
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  Speaker 2: and especially over the last few years where he's been
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more frustrated with the passing offense and
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  Speaker 2: it has expressed it. I have always understood exactly what
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  Speaker 2: you said him where he's coming from, because you're right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's an all pro caliber receiver.
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  Speaker 2: And there were times, even in a win, where they
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  Speaker 2: would struggle offensively and he's open and the ball's not
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  Speaker 2: going there. And I always thought he was at least
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  Speaker 2: expressing he wasn't throwing anybody under the bus. He would
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  Speaker 2: say the pass offense. He never pointed a finger at jail.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't point a fence, and then the next day
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  Speaker 2: he would talk about it. But I have to say
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  Speaker 2: the last one bothered me because it's a game they won.
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  Speaker 2: It's a game where you had two touchdowns. It was
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  Speaker 2: even the touchdown that he caught. The second one was
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  Speaker 2: one of Jillen Hurts' best throws in terms of timing, anticipation,
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  Speaker 2: between the numbers, window throw, like if you can't at
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  Speaker 2: least be happy with some crawling before you walk right,
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  Speaker 2: and then you after a big road win that snapped
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  Speaker 2: a two game losing streak. That's the first time I thought,
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  Speaker 2: that's not the right time in the place. And even
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  Speaker 2: if you are upset, it does feel like you're throwing
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  Speaker 2: teammates who performed well under the bus.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that, and perception is reality, right, Yeah, But
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  Speaker 3: AJ Brown's also the same player that a couple of
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  Speaker 3: days after the Super Bowl he posted a photo and
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  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, pretty much, I'm paraphrasing, but yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: was cool, but more like what's next? And he more he,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, really prioritizes and loves the process dominating the
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  Speaker 3: player in front of him, and he wanted to get
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  Speaker 3: back to work. I think that maybe appear behind the
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  Speaker 3: curtain into the mindset of someone like AJ Brown, and
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  Speaker 3: I also believe that that's what makes them great.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right, we'll have to get into the defense
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  Speaker 2: when we come back from the break. We have a
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  Speaker 2: lot to talk about on the defense, including something Vic
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  Speaker 2: Fangio said today that was like mind boggling and I
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  Speaker 2: loved it. We'll get into that when we come back.
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  Speaker 2: excited to be joined. He is a star on NBC
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  Speaker 2: Sports Philadelphia. He also played in the NFL for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: He was an offensive lineman and a damn good one.
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  Speaker 5: Barrett Brooks, I appreciate the checkers in the mail, bro
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  Speaker 2: I will be checking in immediately. We hang out, Vemo brother.
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  Speaker 2: We were talking before in the first segment about the
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: rediscovery of the run game, and so the storyline is
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: gonna be Wow. The Eagles went under center, and Andrew
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: and I were saying, yeah, that's that's a nice wrinkle.
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  Speaker 4: It was fun.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't really spring the run game against Minnesota. But
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  Speaker 2: what was really interesting to see, Barrett, was the execution
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: of the offensive line, whether under center, shotgun, pistol, triple wing,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: whatever you call it, want to call it, they executed
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: it in a way.
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  Speaker 5: We haven't seen. And that's the biggest thing. I think
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  Speaker 5: it's more so a mindset more so than anything. They
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  Speaker 5: went out there with a ship on their shoulder. They
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: got beat up and out physical by a Giants team
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  Speaker 5: a couple weeks before, so they took it personal to
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: this time. But they got to take this mindset from
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: this point on for the rest of the season. I
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: think them, since they saw that, I think they are
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: gonna change. I'm not saying that they had anything residual
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: from last year, like all right, you better bow down
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: to us because we won the Super Bowl. That doesn't
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: do anything but put uh, you know, an X on.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: You know, now you're the hunted. So they finally realized that, Okay, then,
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  Speaker 5: yes we're probably the most talented team in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: But it takes an attitude of mindset. You just got
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: to be a tough SOB man when you you know,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: when you're an office alignment and you're playing against teams
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: defense too, you know those guys are learning also. So
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: it's just to me a mindset that changed and clicked form.
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  Speaker 2: In this game.
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  Speaker 3: Barret Brett Toath made his first NFL start at center
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  Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon. What was your takeaway on his performance?
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  Speaker 5: I have beat up on Brett Toath since he was
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: playing this season. Else it's not just you. And it
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: was deservedly so deservedly so. He looked absolutely horrible. In fact,
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: the Giants game, he probably no not he probably he
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: played the worst I've seen a guard play because he
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: just wasn't aggressive enough. He just didn't take the fight
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: to the defenders. And that's why Burns and those guys
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: had such an amazing game. They ran the same te
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: stunt three times for three sacks. So and it's as
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: part of him not being a rest enough, not hitting
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  Speaker 5: the guy you know that's over him at the point
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: of attack and stopping his momentum just enough to allow
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: you know, Jordan Mailatta to get into him and push
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: him into the loop and guy going inside. Well, he
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: didn't do that, right, So Sinsy didn't do it. They said,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: all right, we can beat you with that, and that's
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: exactly what they did. They just kept running it. He
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: just wasn't grossing out. He was sent like attackle on
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  Speaker 5: instead of the guard. Well, this game at center number one,
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  Speaker 5: he knew exactly what he needed to do, how he
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  Speaker 5: needed to execute it. But a great thing is he
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: also knew where the ball was supposed to go, too,
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  Speaker 5: so he made the right calls on where guys were
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  Speaker 5: lined up in the mic and everything else. He had
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: everybody on the same page. He was a totally different
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: player from what I saw the previous weeks when he
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: was in at guard.
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  Speaker 3: Which is interesting because you and I were a training
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: camp and he repped mostly at guard, so you would
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: think that that would be the more natural position for
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: him and not center. But he looked more comfortable at center.
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  Speaker 5: Bro Man, you looked at him, snapped the ball horrendously
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: in shotgun. I'm like, how is he a center? He
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: can't snap? But he comes out this game and was
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: was automatic. I mean, I thought Cam was in for
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: a minute.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 5: He played that well, and.
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  Speaker 3: He looked good in space getting out there, and I
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: think that showcased a little bit of his athleticism, and
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: that's something that the Eagles can build on if they
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: need him for the at least in the short term.
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  Speaker 5: Well that's what Brett Toath is, you know. I mean,
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: I was talking to Rube Uh, you know, one of
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: my you know, co hosts of at NBC, and Rube said,
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: during his whole time in Army. When he was playing,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: he passed the ball I think seventeen times either eleven
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: or seventeen times yep, during his career. Now another you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Jeff Staalin coach Stallin university. Guy that graduates and becomes
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: a great office line because he taught him how to
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: pass blog. He was a good athlete, but he was
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: a tackle and he you know, he couldn't gain any
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: weight because he was in you know Armed service, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: for sure services.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: He was like two seventy, right, so.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: He couldn't gain because they had to go pet and
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: everything else. But then he comes here, gains a little weight,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: gets stronger, but then he learns the you know stuff
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: that he needs to be in for a great offense lineman.
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  Speaker 5: And that's exactly what he did. He learned how to
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: pass block. And you know he must have been good
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: because he's been a Stotland University. I mean he's in
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: his super senior year, you.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Know, the Scottish Masters.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: He's almost he's almost getting his what's the one after.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: The COVID Yeah, but he got COVID year coming back.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: This is the third time with the team exactly, so
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I mean he evidently they saw something in him, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: I finally saw what they saw on some in them.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: And it was a short time while I'm thinking, man,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: he must have pictures of coach Stalin or you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: the owner or something, you know, because why did they
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: keep bringing him back? But they proved he proved to
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: me this game why they brought him back. He was
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you this because you won
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with the Steelers, right, and were you
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: back with them the next year?
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: I was trying to remember I was back with him
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: the next year. I just happened to have a catastrophic
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: season career ending injury. I rippen my quad muscle for
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: my knee.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: You remember us talking about that. So I never really
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: believed in the whole Super Bowl hangover thing. But I've
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: been trying to figure out and maybe we all have,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: like the lack of execution just from the old line
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and the and the offense for the first seven weeks.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Why and when we know, we know Dickerson has been
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: banged up, and we know Jerkins banged up, and you
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: watch it takes to you saw my alta just uncharacteristically
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: missing some blocks, even laying like as a unit. I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: just couldn't figure out why, guys that you're accustomed to
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: making these blocks almost routine and just weren't doing it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: And that's the bad part about the most Do you
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: believe the super Bowl hangover? It's not a super Bowl hangover.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: It was more so I'm the big kid on the block.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Respect me and everybody else is looking from down and
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: looking up, and they're like, all right, we circled your
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: game on our, on our, on our you're the hunter
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: and and because of that, since we started again, you're
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: gonna get our best, so you know, and all actually
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: why they're gonna play in seventeen super Bowls before we
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: be making to the playoffs. You're everybody's super Bowl. If
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: they beat you, it's like, you know, it's like showing that,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: all right, we've arrived. We we are now a good team.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: You look at how Denver's approached their season after they
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: beat us, everybody's talking about them as being one of
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: the best teams in their division. You know, in an
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: NFL after they beat us, you need to hear more
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: about them. After they beat us, Well, it's the same thing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: You know, you're always going to be the hunted. Now
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: and they finally realize, all right, we've got to get
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: our act together because people are whooping us, they're bringing
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: it to us. And once that mindset changes, all right,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: then you know you want to fight. Let's go. We're
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: gonna go out and pick a fight. And they finally
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: picked the fight this game.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And I imagine like subconsciously, as an athlete, you don't
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: realize that you're not playing at that hungry level you
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: used to play until you get humbled and lose two
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: games in.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: A row and until you get hit in the mouth,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: you know, and they're like, oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: we're the Eagles. You can't do us like this, but like, yeah,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: we're gonna do you like this because this is how
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: we become the big kids on the block.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: That's right, all right, So this is supposed to be
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the injury segment. Let's go get to this really quickly.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Obviously the bye weeks on Saquon Barkley did leave the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: game where a growing injury.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: He did talk after the Yeah, he said he said
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: he could have went back in if they needed him to,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and that it shouldn't really be an issue.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: So the bye wee comes at a very good time,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: great time, Yes, great time. You know, we need the
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Eagles without some key starters or Tory Jackson a J.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Brown with a hamstring.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Of course and hopefully we get back Nolan Smith. He
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: gets the heat off the edge, so maybe he comes
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: off that now and maybe we get Bennett also, you
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: know Benn and see what he can do in a secondary.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be three reinforcements coming, Brandon Graham, Nolan
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Smith and Ja Cory and Bennett. Yes, yes, so I
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: think you have to feel pretty good about that, and
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: you can build off of that. And now you're getting
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: some help.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Given Vic Fangio's history of not giving it. You know what,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I totally thought Brandon Graham was gonna be out there.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I asked him about Brandon Graham today. Uh huh, he said,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: he said, he he was okay. He goes, he was okay,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: better than I thought, and he goes. I'm starting to
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: think that he can help us.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Here, you know, you know, just from talking to guys
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: and you know, around locker room, you know, just a
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: little you know, I call him intimate talks, you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: and they're saying that BG, he's going to be able
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: to give us. You know, ten to twelve play ten
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: to twelve reps a game. I'll tell him, shot take
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: me out of retirement too. You know, I can give
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: you five to seven reps like nine on seven. But
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: that you know what now that I said that didn't
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: even sound right coming on my health.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm only asking because Todd Harriman's we
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: had him on the show recently kind of said the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: same thing.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: He said, maybe I could do three to five reps.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: But my question is against who exactly you want three?
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Can you do five against Miles Garrett?
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: No, I was talking about gets you motion, you know
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I'm talking, Yeah, that's what now, But
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: those guys a bigger, stronger fashion. I'm too old, man,
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: I'm a half a century already. Man, So I can
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: do Todd, he probably can do it. You know, he's
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: slimmed up a lot. You know, he's probably still in shape,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: probably running around and stuff.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: He might be abtle too, slimmed up now, right right, kind.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Of looking like Kelsey. Kelsey slimmed up a lot too.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: So yeah, but you know, I just think that you
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: know him coming back and you know the way he
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: finished his career in that Super Bowl. He was lighting
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: people up. Man, he was. He still has it. But
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I think the big thing he's gonna teach these guys
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: how to finish. That's what's the problem. He didn't know
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: how to finish when he first got in the league.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: That's why he kind of struggled. These guys aren't at
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: that level. They're finishing yet. Maybe he can teach them
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: how to finish because Mike tried to teach him them,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: and then they can turn around, they can start finishing
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: the deal, getting sacks and you know, making big plays.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned that, Barret, because I had some
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: really good conversation with Zadarius Smith and he was saying
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: how he was telling a lot of the young edge rushers,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: you know, don't get infatuated with sacks, because then you're
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna get in your head and you're gonna
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: miss the ones that are the players that are in
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: front of you.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And he said he pretty much had he had to
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: establish that with them.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: You're absolutely right, man, because when you're looking to do that,
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: that's when you're not gonna get it. But like when
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: you're when you're out there and you're going through your assignments,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: your technique and doing things the way you're supposed to
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: do it, they fall into a laugh and a lot
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: of times that's what happened. Look at beg He actually
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: won the game, the Rams game against you know when
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: we played the Rams. Yeah, but you know you talk
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: about that jet suite that he caught in the backfield
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: for a tackle for loss. That was a huge play. Yeah,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: so you know that those you know, little things like
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: that and the sack at the end of the game.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Those are the little things, right that you don't really
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: check out and you don't really notice because he's an
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: older guy. But I mean he played well enough that
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: he he saved us a lot.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: That Rams game last year may have been one of
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Brandon Graham's best games year. He was he was domin
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I forget the Adam kappanolways makes fun of the right
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: tackle who how to go in and play that day.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It was a backup goodwin. I think I don't know
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: who it was.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Brandon Graham must have been licking his chops because he
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: did save that game for them.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Oh no, that was his best game of the season
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: by far. Yeah, real quick, before we get to the
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: other side, here. I want to dovetail from what you're
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: talking about not chasing sacks or believing that sacks means
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you're great, because what Vic Fangel said today when asked
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: about getting five sacks was that the rush could have
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: been better. And you know what, you watch the game
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: kind of I feel like Jackson didn't ran himself. He
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: was seeing ghost out there because he had the ball
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a couple of times, four or five sacks and seconds
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: and he ran himself into Jordan davis first sack. He
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: ran himself into somebody else whereas I think Vick is
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: still waiting.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: For the reason I'm glad we're talking about, to really.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Get the pressure that he doesn't have to continue to
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: manufacture with simms and exactly.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm glad you saw that. You said that,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: and you saw that because it's not necessarily getting no sacks.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: You had to play a game in which you had
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: the mush rush rush mush rush meeting. You get the
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: quarterback level. As the defense ends on the outside. You
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: got to make sure he trace stay, keep him inside
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: the pocket. They kept him inside the pocket, which allowed
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: them to make some you know, hay On that if
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: you go out there and just want sacks and things
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: and sacks. That's when you overrun him. That's when he
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: gets the lanes because you're not doing your job. When
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: you do your job and you're getting sacks, that's when
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: it works.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Jlyx could have had another one and
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: josh Usha could have had it easily too. Right on
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: that play where got hurt. He was right there on
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Jackson done.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: So he had a sack but missed two. That's minus one.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: But VIC called him neutral today, so maybe the maybe
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: he's actually all right.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Well, he had one that looked like it was a
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: force fumble and they didn't they didn't count.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: That's true, right right, there's your net neutral.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Aw there you go.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: You got a love a defensive coordinator saying, you.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Know, any a breath of fresh air man because it
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: is sports. Gave us nothing, yes, absolutely nothing, absolutely.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of good baseball analogies from Jim.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Not good Eagles defense once.
• 29:30
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• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Once again.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Here are your hosts from.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds Jeff Mosher and Andrew did check O.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: That's right. And we also are joined by former Eagles
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: offensive lineman Barrett Brooks. You see him on NBC Sports
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: breaking down the Birds NBC Sports Philadelphia, alongside good friend
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: of Inside the Birds Jason Levon. You guys having fun there.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I mean love Jason. You know, it took me a
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: long time to get him on man, and you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: just talking about me and him already have chemistry. We
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: also have a show called Players Only. Yeah, hut, players only?
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: But I mean, I love his aspect. We never we
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: almost never agree, but we agree because we're you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: ex players, But we see things a little different. I
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: see things from a broader aspect.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: He thinks, you know, like AJ's. You know, he knows everything.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Are you saying there's another deep and wide receiver?
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, you know, I mean he is. That's
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: my boy.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: He's a great man. I love his inside. I love
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: how he approaches the game and he sees it from
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: a different way than I do me is you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: three yards and cloud of dust. Run the ball in him.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: He wants to get that ball sailing.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, well let's let's let's let's go to pedigree here.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: He played for Andy Reid. Absolutely, you played for Bill Caller. Yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: so if you played for a guy who wants to
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: just run and pound you in the mouth, and he
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: played for a guy he wants to pass the ball
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: over and we go.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Back and forth with that all the time. He j
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: is the best player on the team. I say, just
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: no question about that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I feel you on that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: But when you look at it, you got to run
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: the ball. You gotta tend to rize him, you gotta
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: beat him down. Then we'll throw the ball.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Plus in college, you're a Kansas State guy, yes, yes, yes,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: And so that's a Bill Snyder operation.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: I was his second second class. He brought in that state.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: So I was part of the biggest turnaround in college
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: football history.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: And he was a run game proponent as well. Loved
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: it love.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, he had you know Michael Bishop, those guys. Yes,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: they did things, you know, running the rock and then
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: you know he turned us around. They had won a
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: game in five years until we got there. And then
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: when we got there, you know, we averaged like ten years,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: I mean ten games my last three years being there,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: So he did change things around.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I do want to ask you because I remember when
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: you first started working for NBC Sports Philadelphia.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I was there.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: We worked together, we dislute together. That was really your
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: first you had called radio, you call college football games.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I know you had done some media, but that was
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: really you coming into your own as an analyst, right
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: someone in front of a camera.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: And we would have a lot of conversations. I was
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: sort of new to that as well.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: But three years in and now I watch you analyzing
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the game very comfortable, like really understanding how to not
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: only analyze the game, but explain it to an audience
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: that may not understand x's and knows really well.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm really I'm really proud of where.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: You come from.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Not from me, no, for real, man, you were there
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: with my start. Man when I first got there, you
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: were already there, you already established. I got there.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I remember you were asking me for tips and I'm like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure I'm the guy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: That's good because I didn't know, you know, I'm I
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: get on there. I remember, you know, had a two
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: hour show breaks on Broad two hour show, and that
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: first week I might have said fifty words the entire show.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: We're talking about two hours for five days, and I
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: might have said fifty words the entire week. Wow, the
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: entire week.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: It took a while for me to really get comfortable.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: And it had a lot to do it, you know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: reading the prompter was I'm like, come on now, I mean,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: I can't read the prompter and this is crazy here
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: I have I have a I have a you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: an NBA in health and her administration, but I can't read.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: And the reason it's different, man, because you got to read,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: like you're not reading number one but number two. You
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: gotta be fluent with it, you know. And it was
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: it took what it took a lot of reading my
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Bible in the bathroom and and hearing it in the
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: bathroom to get really where I needed to be.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And now you and I get to get a chance
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: to talk on the air sometimes when I'm on with doing.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Ricky, I love it, man, love it, I mean, and
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: going a great job also, manant and I try to
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: stay out the way with that you know, you give me,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: you give me the mic and let me go. But
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: then you know, dealing with Ricky Man, it's tough. Man,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: I don't see you.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: The same mind.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Sometimes got close over the last year or so.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Man, we're very close. But he just he is a
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: fireball man and I love his passion. And it's not
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: just he's not just a baseball guy, baseball, football, hockey.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: He does it all.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: You know, he's very good.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: That's proud of him.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, well, we'll get back to the Eagles
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: one sec. But this is an interesting topic because my
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: first actual I think show when I when that when
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I started to do more TV at NBC Sports Philly
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: was with Jamal Jackson and Ray Didninger and Ron Brooke
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: was the host, and it was a tape breakdown show.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: So we would in the morning go to the green
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: room and rewatch the game.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And this is before NFL pro like you literally got
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: to watch the TV copy and do the best you
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: can and break it apart.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: A couple of great producers and then.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: We write the script, were picked the plays that we
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: were going to go through, and then hours later we
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: would shoot the show like six clock live right and yep,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: to remember all the plays that are gonna be, you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: in that sequence and what happened was a real challenge
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: for me, especially if I was spending the rest of
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: their writing stories, Like I wasn't dedicated to that show. Yeah,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: And there were times on TV where I was just
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: it's like a quarterback getting stuck in the pocket. I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: was like, not exactly sure what the next footage that
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: we put out, and I was looking down and and
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: eventually we got it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: But it's just just an experience, Like I love it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: You said you're in the bathroom like with your Bible
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: trying to figure it out.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I got that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Well, if you ask me, man, if you take studio
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: shows you do calling college football games, I think I
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: love college football games the most because it's right there,
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: the actions right there, and I pride myself on being
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: able to break it down so my grandmother could understand
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Sure, So when I sit down, I
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: break it on cover two, I'm like, yeah, you got
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: two high safeties. You got the corners on the outside,
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: and watch them. I could tell his cover too because
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: they squatted, but it was a nine route when it
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: was straight going down the field that he's got a
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: latch up to him. So it looks like man, but
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: it's not. So I try to make sure that they
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: can understand it. And you know, be a guy that
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: you know, I don't talk about I see people to
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Oh you know, they were cover too. You know, when
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: we have the two verticals coming, people don't want to
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: hear that, you know what I'm saying. People want to
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: be able to talk about it at you know, the
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: local watering hole or at the barber shop, or you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: just sitting there when they're you know, at the water
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: coool a work.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've actually learned a lot from watching how you
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: operate because it is broadcasting and I can't just assume
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: that everyone has an idea of what.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: You know, we're talking about twelve personnel.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: I have to explain that.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Yet when I write what I see, you know, I
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: do these films and I write twelve personnel, I'm always
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: in parentheses.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Ready two tight ends too.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: And you know it's like you gotta do it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: You do, absolutely do all right, let's let's so, let's
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: take it back to the Eagles and flip the switch.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: We were talking about Fangio yep, not really thrilled with
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: the past run. I mean, he wasn't upset. He was
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: just saying it wasn't like five sax. We were just
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: beating guys one on one all day long. What is
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: this defense? After he can I want both of your
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: opinions to start with your back.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: What is this defense?
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: I think this defense is a I don't necessarily think
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: it's a bend but not break. I think he has
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: so many talented players in different positions that he's trying
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: to hide certain players. So in the midst of them
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: hiding certain players, he didn't want to call and take
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: out his full gambit of everything that he has to,
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: you know, to to really stop offenses. So because of that,
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: I think he's playing a little bit of cat and
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: mouse trying to get these guys in great positions. Because
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I mean I sat there and watched three teams in
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: a row picked on that corner opposite of Quinnyon. I
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: mean three games in a row I saw. I mean,
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: they broke it down. They they they maximized whoever was
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: out there, and they had you know, very productive, you
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: know game plans to do that. So he's had to
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: find a way to get them and hide them, you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: so I think now if guy start playing a little better,
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: he get a little pass for us, he can then take,
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: you know, take the handcuffs off, start doing what he
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: really wants to do.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Vic Vanjo has had to apply a lot more
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: pressure than he has in the past because they haven't
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: been able to get home with regularity traditionally. So you're
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: seeing his hands tied. To sort of allude to what
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Barrett's saying here, you're having to find different ways to
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: manufacture pressure. And also you have to keep in mind
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: that it's a young defense. Yeah, so there's a lot
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: of players like Drew mccuba for example. There's been some
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: busted coverages. There's been some mistackles, but you can see
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: whether it's Drew mccuba Jahad Campbell. They're getting better every week,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: and I think they're starting to hit their stride. They're
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: starting to find out what they want to do, and
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: he's figuring out how to maximize his personnel going into
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the bye week.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I think watching this year's defense has given me And
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: this is not meant to be disrespectful because I agree
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: with what you guys are saying. There's levels of it
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: that just aren't the same as last year, and that
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: it's gonna happen every single year, Right.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: It gives me a respect that I for.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: The last year's defense, which going into the year, I
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: don't think we knew how much of a killer Milton Williams.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: We knew he was a good player, he.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Was a killera he was the defense at point. And
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: same thing with Josh Sweat. He really started to come
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: on Sweat especially what I mean, and you put those
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: two guys in that four man rush Vic almost never
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: had two blitz no, right, and now you're seeing them
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: blitz at a much higher rate this year against certain teams.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: He didn't do it much against the Giants because he
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like he had to. But second corner, you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I mean Darius slay.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: One of them, you know, he want to slay Rogers
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: one of them to you.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Know, right, right, And even even CJ.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson for all the for all of his year
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: this year that that he has not been able to
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: lay he was about right about.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: I agree with the decision to draft Drew mccoba in
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: the second.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Round and kind of move on from CJ.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: You have to do that.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: You also have to understand that when you draft a
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: young player like that, especially in a pass happy league,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: there's going to be growing paints. And he's been really
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: accountable for that and I think he's starting to grow.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he kind of relied on guys you know
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: that hadn't really proven himself, but they so flashes last year.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean you look at you know Hunt,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, you take a guy who's only played the
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: defensive position three years.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the safety at Cornell not long ago, right.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: So you know, I mean here he is, you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: now rushing the passer, and he finally started you know,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: grow out a little bit in this last game. You
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: look at uh, you know, look at you know, Jahid Campbell.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, the kid is you know, so green, but
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: he's just so talented, so big, and everybody's like, well,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know if he could put rush the passer.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: You know what, he's actually bigger than Nolan Smith, right,
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: and we haven't had Nolan Smith, who he had banking
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: on him being, you know, a guy who's gonna give
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: us a lot of pressure. And then you know, also
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: you know, he's had the kind of hide the fact
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: that Carter just hasn't been as dominant as he's been
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: with years before, and I truely believe he can be.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: He can be the best defensive tackle in the league.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: He just hadn't shown it. Right now He's done it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I mean I thought first thought it was a little
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: bit injury related. He was, you know, but he's been fine.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: He's not on the injury report anymore. He just hasn't
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: been again. The Super Bowl hang, whatever you want to
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: call it.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, vic Vandred did say that he needed a
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: round into better shape earlier in the season, and that
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: was really evident, Barrett, you know, watching him and training camp,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: he clearly didn't look to be in top shape. But
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: also to kind of piggyback off what you were saying,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Moro Jomo is another player they were banking on and
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: have been banking on to take a big step. Four
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: sacks on the season, leads the Eagles. He gives them
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: some juice from the interior. Now, he doesn't stop the
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: run quite like a Milton Williams did, but he's been
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: another player that they were roy bullish on and you're
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: seeing it pay some dividends.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: We have been very surprised that I was very surprised,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: and I'm still looking at him and Jordan. I mean,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: Davis came in and is playing great right now. Jordan
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: playing very very well and a lot better than I
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: thought he was going to play. But he's shown me something,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: you know. So it's kind of highlighted those two Morrow
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: and Davis. But I mean they I just thought they
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: were going to bank a lot on that fact that
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: they were going to have Carter. They're just disrupting everything
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: and then having Smith on the outside, you know, doing
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: his thing.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest different summon it up is that
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: there's still a lot of high end talent on this defense,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: from Dejene to Mitchell to Carter, Bawn, John Campbell will
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: be I firmly believe it.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I just think that there's a little more of the
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: quote unquote middle.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Class than there was last year, where here were just
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: not that many weak decision if it was, you could
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: cover it up. But you know what, we haven't talked
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: about the most important player on the team. You have
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: forty five minutes into this show. We have not talked
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: about a guy who's putting up MVP numbers. So we
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: will talk about that when we get to the other side,
• 43:31
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• 43:38
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  Speaker 2: Guess what, there's no game for the Eagles, all right,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: so we're gonna go to the Keys for the bye week,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: and to me, let's starts with Jalen Hurts. We gotta
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: talk about Jalen Hurts, all right, because this man has
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: thrown seven touchdown passes in his last two games, which
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: gives him fifteen through eight games. That's the most he's
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: ever had through eight games of his career. And he's
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: on pace for thirty two touchdowns this season, which, as
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: we all know, would be by far a career high.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I think twenty three was his highest then. And when
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: you start to get into the thirties, people start to like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: you know, the statmongers, Oh that's pretty good.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: He's he's throwing the football.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: He's he's throwing touchdowns.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Jaalen Hurts is throwing touchdown.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: Passes right now because we haven't leaned on the toush
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: push and we did last year. Yes, we are using
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: our offense, you know what I'm saying. We're using you know,
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: the the weapons that we have, like Goddard is. He's
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: so talented man, and we you know, we've only have
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: him for a selected, you know, a couple of games
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: because you know, injuries have been an issue. But man,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: he's so talented man. Especially run after the catch. He's amazing.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: And I think he asked the tightest symbiotic relationship with
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: him than anybody else.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Definitely.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: You know what's the key for him, Andrew going into
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: the break, You're jailing, Hurts, You're coming, You're six and two.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: You're putting up better numbers.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: His passer rating, by the way, it is one fourteen
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: point one the highest of his career, one of the
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: highest the NFL.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: What's the key now, Yeah, he's really in a rhythm
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: right now. You can see everything slow down for him.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: He seeing the field really well.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I think for Jalen the key would be just getting
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: with Kevin Patulo and trying to really hone in on
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: every aspect of the offense so that when you do
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: emerge from the bye week, you're able to kind of
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: hit the ground running because they have a pretty formidable
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: opponent that they're going to meet in Green Bay on
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: November tenth. I think it's gonna be a lot of
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: self scouting, a lot of getting with the coaches and
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: trying to come up with a game plan and some
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: more creativity to keep the offense flowing.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: What do quarterbacks do during the bye week? Barrett? I
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: mean you played uh for several of them, right, I
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: mean if you played with Big Ben.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Who did you play with when you were the Eagles.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think it from ninety my.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: First year, the first year, the last year the Kelly
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Green Jerseys, Bobby Hoying was it was it Rouse? My
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: last year, I had, I had Randall Conny. I've played
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: with RC. I played with RC my rookie year and
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: then the next couple of years, you know quarterback you
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: know by whoever had their hand raised at the time.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah year, Yeah, we had you know, both of the
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: you know, we had Bobby Hooying my last year there
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: when we went, we had both the Devora both did
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: coy and TI. I had Rodney Pete and uh, you
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: know it was it was it was quarterbacks, you know,
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: with musical chairs. But we had such a talented you
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: know running backs. You know, we had Ricky Waters and
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Charlie Garner. And people don't understand how great Charlie Gardon
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: will not to say good. I said great Charlie.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Gardner very underrated play definitely definitely very under And Ricky
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: too was great too.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: If he hadn't did the who for for who for what?
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: I think he could have been one of the the
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: you know, the pivots stars in this town that you
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: know would bleed green for him anytime.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Hey, we need we need that content. Okay, that's like
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: that's up there with Alan Everson practice.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: We need for what.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but the first game he plays my rookie year,
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: my first game against Tampa Bay Alligators for who for what.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: That's tough.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: It was tough.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. His he had actually a great career with americally,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: and it certainly was better than the way it started.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: But you also played in Detroit and Green Bay. Which
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks did you play with there?
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: I had Charlie Batch.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Charlie Batch.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when I was in Detroit and then I went
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: to Green Bay, I had you know, I called him
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: duck meat, you know, I mean he you like duck
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: me beating. I'm like, yeah, we'll duck down on. Farvard
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: was the funniest. He was just a simple guy man,
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: you know, great guy, simple guy man. And you know,
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: he really made me feel welcome. You know. In fact,
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: I'm just a quel story about bread.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: He drive this F one fifty, you know, old F
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: one fifty.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Here is this guy heat. But you know, the local store,
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: the local car dealership, gave him one of the H
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: two Hummers, the new ones that came out H two Hummers,
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: and he didn't want to drive it, so he didn't
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: drive it. So I was renting the car and he
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: saw I was writting the car and said, hey, why
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: don't you won't you drive this truck around for me?
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: You know, So you have to rent a car, but
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: drive it around for me so that, you know, just
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: keep the windows up. I'm like, all right, so we
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: gave you a truck for the entire season. Incredible, Great guy,
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: great guy. You just happened to be in the right
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: place and there. I mean, it couldn't been anybody else
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: on the team, right, he just happened to notice you
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: were renting the car exactly, yellow man, it was the
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: brightest yellow you can get.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Oh man, that's great.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Well, since the Eagles are playing in Lambeau Barrett, what
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: are your memories of playing there?
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: It was a great place to play because they believe
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: that they pay your salary up there, and because of
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: the community team, they did pay your salary. So the
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: expectations up there is a lot different than even here.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: Their fans are really wholesome fans. Nice. Yeah, you know,
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: like wind loser draw. You know, they'll probably still give
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: you a free meal or whatever. You know what I mean.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: It's not like you're here, you know, you you got
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: to earn it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Here, you know, but here you get like for sale signs.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Out.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Uh so the common bond then for a quarterback entering
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the bye weeks, Jalen hurts just get away from it all,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: or would you like to do you imagine that he
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: digs into the tape.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: And started watching tape yesterday, And that's just the way
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: he is. You know, he's not going to separate some
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: stuff from the game, cause to him, he is the game, right,
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: so he sees you know, he's gonna look in and
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: see the inefficiency that he has. He's gonna fix those
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: and coming too, you know, against Green Bay and and
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: and show everybody, look, I've fixed it. He's always trying
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: to prove how good he is and who he is,
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: because you know, he feels though, you know, he's always
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: getting the short end of the stick. Yeah.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: My key is just because I feel like I feel
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: like lately, last few games, we have seen Jalen really
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: improve in the element of being decisive on certain throws
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: that he in the past has not loved to.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: Make it right.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I brought up the one that he threw to Aja
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: against the Vikings, Okay, but even in this last game
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: before that, there are a couple of throws where you
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: really see him comfortable sticking that foot in the ground
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: and ripping it. And there are times where he'll go
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: through maybe a game or two or throw where you'll
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: see that that throw not made. I would love for
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: him to see it and just remind himself, I make
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: that throw, and I make it really well. He's always teraccurate.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: He's always had a good enough arm to do it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if he can just do that, it's already happening.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: His touchdown numbers is pascer rating. Everything about his passing
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: numbers are up was from what they usually are.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: I think he's a little too conscious at times on
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: you know, his numbers. You know, so a lot of
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: times he wouldn't throw those passes. But just look, you
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: know how he's opened up. Even the last touchdown of
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: the game gains to Dotson, thrown up to Dotson, Dotson, No,
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: we've got Dotson. No, it wouldn't have been a we've
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: got Dotson. He'd have just you know, he'd be all right,
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna throw that throw. But he threw it
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: up and allowed him to, you know, go up and
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: make a play on it. So, to me, that's heart
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: the maturation of him trusting a guy, but trusting his
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: arm that he can get up there and his guy
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: will go ahead and fight for him.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Dotson Moss that defensive back. But I think
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: you're seeing him not be so overly reliant on throwing
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: outside the numbers. It's the intermediate throws and he's just
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: seeing the field really well right now.
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Smitty's given an opportunity to Smitty is always he
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: creates separation with his route runner. He's just one of
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: those smooth, seamless guys that you can trust.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Look, the other thing would be on defense now right
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the key to defense, you know, Vic Fangio is gonna
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of They're gonna get guys back.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Vic Fangio is gonna look see what they've done done well.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: The trade deadlines coming up, to trade.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Deadlines coming up.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: What is the biggest key for the defense, Barret?
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: Those guys in the trenches, you know, Carter, once he
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: makes his mind up that he wants to be the
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: best defensive line in the league, this defense will be unstoppable.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: They won't you won't be able to do anything with him.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: But until he makes that you know decision, they'll be
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: an okay defense.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Baron. I think the key to everything
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: is Jaylen Carter get healthy. He's had he had the heel,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: he has the shoulder. You know, they're they're relying on
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: you to be that centerpiece for the defense, and you
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: know they go as you go. So I'm looking to
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: see him really emerge from the bye week and be
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: that force.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, you know. I mean you saw you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Nikobe Dean kind of solidified that run game stop. Oh yeah,
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: so he's playing well, you know, so they have the keys,
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: they have what they need. It's just them going out
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: and if he can he can turn the corner, this
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: could be an unstoppable defense.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: If I'm not an thinking Howie Roseman did not make
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: a trade last year at the deadline for the first
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: time in quite a while.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: No, he didn't.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: No, I wonder if that's going to be a trend
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: or if he's itching to try to bring somebody in.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: We all talk about it, and it's the dominant storyline,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: but I always say, well, who's available and for what
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: price exactly?
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they don't make a move
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: because of the reinforcements that are on the way, and
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: you look at the cornerback situation they have three you
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: have to figure you'll land on one of them, whether
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: it's Jacoryan Bennett who only played twenty four snaps this season,
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Kiey Ringo, or Dorry Jackson r You can make a
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: case for all three. A. Dory's coming off a concussion,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: kiey Ringo game, yeah, hasn't really been tested. And then
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Jacorey and Bennett, they don't really know what they have
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: in him. In fact, vic Veanjo said incomplete when asked
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: to evaluate what he's how he's looked in that defense.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Always overflowing with compliments, isn't it? If you could pick
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: well Endon on this, if you could pick one position, Barrett,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: where you'd like to see how we make a move
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: for a starting I don't know if he's gonna be
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: able to bring in a Pro Bowl caliber player because they're.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Not too many are available.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna let any starting caliber player.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Where are you putting that? What position they got up there?
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: It would have to be Russian rush in a complete
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: If I can get a complete guy the rest of
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: passer set the edge on the run, I would get that,
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: but I don't think that they need it right now.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be okay with they have.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: The Eagles go into the by. They have passed some
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: major tests, but they've got two right out of the by,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: which the gauntlet with the two games is not a
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: golf Okay, he just went through a gauntlet, right, But
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: I will say Packers Lions, that is quite the test.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Packers at Lambeau Lions here the following weekend on Sunday night,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: and I know we'll.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: Be breaking it down, but guess what, you guys just
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: passed the test for tonight. Barrett Brooks, thank you very.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Much, appreciate showing up and giving your expertise. Andrew to
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