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Disturbing Revelations in Fauci's Private Diary · 3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
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Speaker 2: Grab a stool next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
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Speaker 2: and Jim Garritty of National Review.
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Speaker 1: Free martinis coming up.
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Speaker 3: So glad you're with us for the Monday edition of
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Speaker 3: the Three mar Tiny Lunch. So many stories to get to,
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Speaker 3: some recent, some follow ups to big stories that happened
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Speaker 3: a few years ago, and one that hearkens all the
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Speaker 3: way back to the Great Greek Empire. Maybe that's a
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Speaker 3: bit of an exaggeration, but we're still going to celebrate
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Speaker 3: it in the chaser Today, Jim, let's start with socialism again.
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Speaker 3: Socialism making the rounds on the Sunday morning chat shows.
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Speaker 3: Shannon Briham, host of Fox News Sunday, welcoming in Meghan Romer,
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Speaker 3: who is the co chair of the Democratic Socialists of America,
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Speaker 3: and Shannon Briham simply went through the DSA platform and said, Hey,
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Speaker 3: do you agree with this? Do you agree with this?
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Speaker 3: Do you really believe this? And here's how it went.
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Speaker 4: So we're going to put up on the screen a
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Speaker 4: few of the things that are part of your platform,
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Speaker 4: and I want to ask you just give me sort
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Speaker 4: of a true false on these A ball of the Senate. True, okay,
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Speaker 4: replace the Presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 4: Abolish ice, Absolutely, abolish borders, and give amnesty to anyone
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Speaker 4: currently in the US illegally. As a long term plan.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 4: Defund the Pentagon. Absolutely, abolish prisons, at least in large part.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Again, that is part of a long term program. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 4: So no prisons, government or public ownership of most large corporations.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. All right, let's head over to meet the press
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Speaker 3: now where Steve Kornaki was helping Kristen Welker understand some
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Speaker 3: new numbers over there, particularly how Democrats view socialism as
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Speaker 3: opposed to independents.
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Speaker 2: We've been seeing in the primary season socialists winning Democratic primaries,
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Speaker 2: candidates from the far left. And look at this here
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Speaker 2: among Democrats, this is that fox pool, a majority have
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Speaker 2: a favored view of socialism. Step outside the Democratic Party,
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Speaker 2: it's a totally different world. Look at independence. Socialism deeply
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Speaker 2: unpopular there.
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Speaker 3: So the numbers were Democrats favor socialism fifty two to
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Speaker 3: forty three, Independence of posts seventy seven seventeen. Jim, I
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Speaker 3: think the bubonic plague is slightly more popular among independents.
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Speaker 3: But you know, you go over that list that Shannon Briehman,
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Speaker 3: the DSA lady were going over. Some of those are
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Speaker 3: mainstream Democratic positions, abolishing Ice, radically changing the Supreme Court
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Speaker 3: as we know it. They hate the Senate. We've had
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Speaker 3: plenty of op eds on how that's supposedly not fair.
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Speaker 3: Good that it's on the record, and the more the
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Speaker 3: Democrats have to try to run away from this, I
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Speaker 3: guess the better.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: First of all, very good for shnnon Reim for asking
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Speaker 5: these questions, just sitting her dead and like there's nothing,
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Speaker 5: there's no gotcha there, this is all this is in
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Speaker 5: your platform. Do you guys really believe this? Are you serious?
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Speaker 5: And I suppose semi credit to the DSA representative there.
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Speaker 5: I've put out that like it's a long term plan. Okay,
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Speaker 5: so you do support it. You just you know, like
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Speaker 5: nobody's got to stop watch out for you guys, Right,
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Speaker 5: we kind of know this is where you take things
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Speaker 5: to The numbers actually are They don't totally shock me.
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Speaker 5: The numbers on the Meet the Press pool. It's not
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Speaker 5: surprising that a lot of people are upset with the
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Speaker 5: status quo. I would argue the cost of living never
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Speaker 5: really got under control post pandemic. Yeah, the inflation rate
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Speaker 5: is down significantly from the heights of the Biden administration,
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Speaker 5: but people still feel like, you know, cost of living
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Speaker 5: is too expensive. Gas prices are back up again, We're
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Speaker 5: shooting at a ran, all that kind of stuff. So
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Speaker 5: there's this general dissatisfaction with the country, and it probably
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Speaker 5: doesn't help the president. Trump keeps running around saying we're
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Speaker 5: in a golden age. That said upset with the status
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Speaker 5: quo does not automatically mean I want any alternative, including
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Speaker 5: what these Democrats and the Democratic Socialists of America are
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Speaker 5: putting on the table. If I'm a Republican candidate running
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Speaker 5: against even a non DSA candidate, I'm saying too, I'm
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Speaker 5: putting that statement from the DSA saying we want to
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Speaker 5: get rid of police.
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Speaker 1: We get it in the military.
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Speaker 5: We want to get rid of borders, right, we want
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Speaker 5: to get rid of we want to go back to
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Speaker 5: the Treaty of Westphalia and undo.
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Speaker 1: The concept of the nation state.
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Speaker 5: That's how radical these folks are put that out there,
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Speaker 5: And then I'd say to any non DSA Democratic candidate,
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Speaker 5: what have you done to stand up against this.
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Speaker 1: What have you done to oppose this?
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Speaker 5: Because it's one thing to say, oh, I don't agree
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Speaker 5: with it, but we know the next Congress, because of
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Speaker 5: these primaries and these blue districts, they're going to have
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Speaker 5: more DSA members. They're going to be an increasingly vocal
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Speaker 5: voice in the party. So are you really willing to
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Speaker 5: fight against that or are you going to have kind
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Speaker 5: of a goal along to get along?
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Speaker 1: Eh, we'll meet them halfway. We'll have some borders but
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Speaker 1: not others.
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Speaker 5: We'll have some military but not other You really can't
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Speaker 5: go halfway with this vision of society, and so or
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Speaker 5: you are basically on board with the DSA agenda, you
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Speaker 5: just want it to be longer term than they do.
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Speaker 1: This is a good way to repel independence.
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Speaker 5: And I do not think the socialist Democratic base is
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Speaker 5: enough to win the House of Representatives or the US Senate.
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Speaker 5: We'll see how things shake out from here. But I
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Speaker 5: are you upset with the status quo? That's a very
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Speaker 5: winning question for Democrats. Do you want socialism as the alternative?
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Speaker 5: Is a very uh proposition for Republicans.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely right, And the Democrats still don't know how to
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Speaker 3: handle this because you got Rob Emmanuel, and I think
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Speaker 3: it was The Atlantic last week that said we got
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Speaker 3: to purge this whole thing out of the party or
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Speaker 3: it's going to be a disaster. But Tim Kane over
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Speaker 3: the weekend's like, who am I to tell them they
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Speaker 3: can't be part of the big tent? So they still
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Speaker 3: haven't figured out how to address this yet.
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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, by the way, Rom Emanuel's op
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Speaker 5: ed was in the Wall Street Journal, and I think
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Speaker 5: if you're a if you're thinking of running for president,
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Speaker 5: as Rob Emmanual obviously, is the fact that he's pitching
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Speaker 5: himself to the readers of the Wall Street Journal op
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Speaker 5: ed page, a generally right of center audio. I think
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Speaker 5: it's kind of interesting. I don't I don't think it's
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Speaker 5: a great path to to likely victory, but I do
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Speaker 5: think it's kind of interesting that he is kind of
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Speaker 5: he's kind of recognized he doesn't have a chance of
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Speaker 5: appealing to the you know, the Nation or Jacobin or
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Speaker 5: or what are these other, uh, you know, far left audiences,
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Speaker 5: and he's trying to basically say, hey, you know, independence, centrists, Republicans,
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Speaker 5: here's a look at how reasonable I am. I too
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Speaker 5: think that Bernie Sanders is the devil.
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Speaker 3: And even some of the DSA positions that aren't where
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Speaker 3: the Democrats are, they're barely to the left of the Democrats.
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Speaker 3: Like abolishing prisons. I don't think the Democrats want to
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Speaker 3: abolish them, but they think way too many people are
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Speaker 3: in prison. I think way too few people are in
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Speaker 3: prison based on some of the things we're seeing.
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Speaker 5: But I haven't seen a lot of Democrats up in
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Speaker 5: arms about sorros prosecutors. Yes, I mean, they might be
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Speaker 5: few and far between here, you know, the idea of
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Speaker 5: you know, generally, at least historically, Democrats have not big
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Speaker 5: fans of increased defense spending. Democrats have not been big
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Speaker 5: is that like the DSA wants to abolish the Senate,
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Speaker 5: that the states are jerrymandered.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly right, exactly right. So they're not as
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Speaker 1: All right, Jim.
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Speaker 3: In the last couple of days, we have seen a
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Speaker 3: backing off of what we're touted to be major, major
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Speaker 3: escalations in attacks against Iran. Last week, the President used
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Speaker 3: the term massive attack. He said Iran had not received
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Speaker 3: enough pain. He was talking about taking out bridges and
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Speaker 3: power plants and you know, proportion to what the Iranians
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Speaker 3: were targeting elsewhere and that sort of thing. And now
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Speaker 3: for the last three days, there's been nothing. There's no
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Speaker 3: indication that the Iranians have actually agreed to our set
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Speaker 3: of demands, which if what we've done over the past
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Speaker 3: two weeks has really forced them into a crouch position,
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Speaker 3: and it's shuddering in the corner somewhere. It's pretty much
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Speaker 3: needs to be an unconditional surrender. But it seems like
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Speaker 3: we're right back at let's talk. Let's just talk for
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Speaker 3: a while, and we know how that turns out.
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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, why would anyone expect the next
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Speaker 5: round of talks with the Iranians, led once again by
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Speaker 5: Whitkov and Jared Kushner and maybe the Vice President, we'll
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Speaker 5: see to go any different than all the previous ones.
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Speaker 5: We just saw that if you negotiate a memorandum of
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Speaker 5: understanding with the Iranians, they will break every provision and basically,
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Speaker 5: dare you to do something about it? When we talked
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Speaker 5: about Iran frequently, I will get some sort of response.
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Speaker 5: All right, Jim, if you're so smart, what should the
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Speaker 5: president do? Look, first of all, I didn't run for president,
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Speaker 5: so it's not really my decision. But if you really
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Speaker 5: put it to me, I think we have two sub
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Speaker 5: optimal options here at three. I guess if you want
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Speaker 5: to like total surrender and just give up in the
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Speaker 5: Middle East entirely and let a Ran take over the
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Speaker 5: Middle East and let them develop nukes and hope for
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Speaker 5: the best, which would be you know, god awful. The
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Speaker 5: first is, you know, say that's it. We've had enough
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Speaker 5: of this regime. We're in it to win it. We
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Speaker 5: are in for regime change. Tell the Iranian people we're
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Speaker 5: gonna bomb that the hell out of everything.
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Speaker 1: Along the shore.
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Speaker 5: And once it's clear, we're going to start coming over
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Speaker 5: with guns that we're gonna give you guns so that
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Speaker 5: you can shoot back against the Mullas and you can
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Speaker 5: take over. Needless to say, this is a high risk plan.
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Speaker 5: Needless to say, there are all kinds of cases in
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Speaker 5: which regime change, particularly in the Middle East, has either
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Speaker 5: not worked or proven much more complicated, much more bloody,
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Speaker 5: and much more expensive than the United States is expected.
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Speaker 1: I do not full throatdly endorse that, but I reckon.
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Speaker 5: You do think that we've proven over and over again
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Speaker 5: the problem with the Iranian regime is the Iranian regime.
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Speaker 5: There is no more reasonable mula waiting in the curtains
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Speaker 5: to you know, behind the curtain, to take over. There
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Speaker 5: is no reasonable faction. Again, if that's second option, which
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Speaker 5: is also bad, but if you find the first option
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Speaker 5: to bloody and not. You know, this would basically be
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Speaker 5: the project for the remainder of the Trump presidency and
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Speaker 5: unlikely to be resolved by January twenty, twenty twenty nine.
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Speaker 5: Just be in upfront about that. The other option is
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Speaker 5: to declare victory and go home. I means accepting the
10:54
Speaker 5: risk of additional drone strikes or missile strikes against cargo ships,
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Speaker 5: oil tankers, liquid natural gas tankers, and Persian Gulf. It
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Speaker 5: is accepting higher energy prices for the foreseeable future and
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Speaker 5: coming back at some point in the future once you
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Speaker 5: have regrouped and I assume restocks some of our supplies
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Speaker 5: of air defense missiles and things like that, and coming
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Speaker 5: back and trying regime change a year from now, two
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Speaker 5: years from now at some point with that, that's another
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Speaker 5: ugly option, but that is something you could do. They
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Speaker 5: recognize that, like, Okay, we've done everything we can do
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Speaker 5: with this round. The regime has not fallen. Their grip
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Speaker 5: on the public is even stronger, and just keep you know,
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Speaker 5: saying all right, well, we're going to bide our time,
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Speaker 5: We're going to live with the consequences of an incomplete war,
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Speaker 5: and we'll come back in another round. In that time,
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Speaker 5: we'll finish them off. I don't know if that's that.
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Speaker 1: Has no guarantee of success either.
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Speaker 5: So those are your options, though, this is this is
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Speaker 5: what you got to think about before you start the war,
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Speaker 5: not afterwards. And the president's assumption that the you know,
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Speaker 5: Iranians would fold long before they started mining or attacking
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Speaker 5: ships in the in the straight of worm moves, that
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Speaker 5: was that was a bad bet. That did not work out,
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Speaker 5: And that's where we are right now. So those are
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Speaker 5: the two options we here.
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Speaker 1: I don't like.
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Speaker 5: Look, there are time Trump has defied the taco acronym.
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Speaker 5: Trump always chickens out. But this current exchange where it
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Speaker 5: was like, oh, we're gonna hit you, Oh it's gonna
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Speaker 5: be the worst thing you've ever seen, and then nothing
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Speaker 5: happens for three days feels like another example of a
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Speaker 5: taco I.
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Speaker 3: Think in a lot of other countries there would be
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Speaker 3: regime changed by now. But when your enemy has this
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Speaker 3: apocalyptic mindset, you know, fighting to the bitter end and
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Speaker 3: even being killed, that's like a benefit to them. They
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Speaker 3: see that as martyrdom and all sorts of rewards in
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Speaker 3: the afterlife and everything else. But so it's hard to
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Speaker 3: dislodge them when they're willing to fight to the very
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Speaker 3: end like that. How concerned are you about the reports
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Speaker 3: about the dwindling supply of Patriot missiles and others. I
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Speaker 3: remember just sending stuff to Ukraine. We were considered a
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Speaker 3: little bit low if China tried something with Taiwan. So
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Speaker 3: where do we stand on that right now?
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Speaker 5: The President says this is not something he's worried about.
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Speaker 5: Dan Kane has said in the past that we have
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Speaker 5: more than sufficient supply. I do notice we delayed certain
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Speaker 5: shipments to Taiwan and they said that we needed to
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Speaker 5: replenish supplies from Iran. This was from Hung k How,
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Speaker 5: the Secretary of the Navy. But then hag Seth said, no,
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Speaker 5: the that's not the case. We're just fine in terms
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Speaker 5: of our supply levels, I don't know. I do know
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Speaker 5: that we've been going through them at a fairly rapid
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Speaker 5: pace during our combat with a Ran, so it would
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Speaker 5: make sense that they might be lower. But at this point,
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Speaker 3: Now we know the market was not the source. It
15:48
Speaker 3: was the amplifier. I'm sure that's exactly right, but nonetheless
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Speaker 3: proof right there that he didn't believe what he was
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Speaker 3: spouting in the media for months, maybe even years after that. Also, Jim,
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Speaker 3: we are seeing him absolutely obsessed with the media coverage
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Speaker 3: twenty second, twenty twenty, he says, in addition to cases
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Speaker 3: continuing to soar, thirty thousand in the United States with
16:29
Speaker 3: four hundred deaths. Further down, he says, press is going
16:32
Speaker 3: wild with me front page in the Washington Post yesterday
16:35
Speaker 3: and an op ed by Marine Doubt in the New
16:36
Speaker 3: York Times today about me and my relationship with the
16:39
Speaker 3: president or potus as he puts a profile by Peter
16:41
Speaker 3: Nicholas on me in The Atlantic. Then May twenty first,
16:45
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, he starts out with the deaths Global two
16:48
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty four thousand new twenty four thousand paragraph later,
16:52
Speaker 3: big front page article about me appeared in the Washington Post,
16:55
Speaker 3: very flattering. The situation with my national and international fame
16:58
Speaker 3: is explosive and really on a imaginable It's not hyperbole
17:01
Speaker 3: to say that today I am the most famous and
17:04
Speaker 3: talked about person in the country and one of the
17:07
Speaker 3: most recognizable persons in the world. Countless profiles on me
17:12
Speaker 3: in multiple media, and then there's also excerpts of him
17:16
Speaker 3: talking to Jake Tapper about how to trip up other
17:18
Speaker 3: Trump administration officials on network television. So, Jim, we knew
17:22
Speaker 3: this guy was a piece of work, but the more
17:23
Speaker 3: we learn, Wow.
17:25
Speaker 5: First of all, gregs, thank you for your kind words.
17:27
Speaker 5: I should point out that I was one of many
17:29
Speaker 5: who were doing a lot of digging and investigative work
17:33
Speaker 5: in those early months of COVID before it became a
17:36
Speaker 5: much more mainstream opinion. So I don't want to take
17:38
Speaker 5: too much credit there. That's but also, like, while we're
17:41
Speaker 5: giving credit, thank you, Senator Ran Paul for staying on this.
17:44
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there.
17:45
Speaker 5: Are a lot of things about the COVID pandemic that
17:47
Speaker 5: are extraordinarily frustrating. But one of them is a degree
17:50
Speaker 5: to which I think a lot of people just want
17:51
Speaker 5: to forget about it. They either want to forget about
17:53
Speaker 5: it because the memories were so bad and you know,
17:55
Speaker 5: schools being out, and seeing loved one pass away, and
17:58
Speaker 5: not being able to visit elderly relatives in nursing homes
18:01
Speaker 5: that Andrew Komo was probably trying to kill them in, you.
18:04
Speaker 1: Know, things like that.
18:04
Speaker 5: Like there was a lot of like there's a lot
18:06
Speaker 5: of dark man I remember reading about the nineteen eighteen
18:09
Speaker 5: flu pandemic and they mentioned about you compare this to
18:12
Speaker 5: World War One. There are lots of books and diaries
18:16
Speaker 5: people talked about World War One. There was a great
18:17
Speaker 5: legacy to it. There was a very little legacy of
18:20
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighteen pandemic. People wanted to forget about it,
18:23
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, at least we won't be
18:24
Speaker 5: like that with COVID. No, it turns out we kind
18:26
Speaker 5: of were like that with COVID. A lot of people
18:28
Speaker 5: didn't want to forget, and a lot of people didn't
18:29
Speaker 5: want to get down to the bottom of where it
18:32
Speaker 5: came from, or they were very happy to believe this idea. Oh,
18:35
Speaker 5: it came from the huan En seafood wet market in Wuhan,
18:40
Speaker 5: And clearly it was either a bat or a pangolin
18:44
Speaker 5: or one of these animals. I won't do the whole
18:46
Speaker 5: John Stewart stick from that embarrassed Stephen Colbert so much so.
18:50
Speaker 5: From very early on, the data that they were that
18:53
Speaker 5: the Chinese were willing to release indicated that some of
18:56
Speaker 5: the early gazes did have a tie to the wet market.
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Speaker 1: But some did not. That's a pretty big problem.
19:01
Speaker 5: If you want to say that, ah, it started a
19:03
Speaker 5: wet market, then you have to say, Okay, how did
19:04
Speaker 5: these people who have no connection to how did they
19:07
Speaker 5: get it? And the argument from the wet market advocates
19:09
Speaker 5: was always well, they have one, we just haven't able
19:11
Speaker 5: to figure it out yet.
19:12
Speaker 1: There was some silent carrier.
19:14
Speaker 5: Who got it around to them, or maybe they visited
19:17
Speaker 5: the wet market and forgot or something like that. There's
19:19
Speaker 5: always a lot of hand waving in terms of explaining
19:22
Speaker 5: how some of the early cases did not have that connection.
19:25
Speaker 5: So I find it very plausible that it was an
19:27
Speaker 5: area where somebody was infected, went to the wet market
19:30
Speaker 5: spread it to a bunch of other people. But Georgetown
19:33
Speaker 5: University professor and pandemic specialist Daniel Lucy had said fairly
19:36
Speaker 5: early on it said, look, the virus came into that
19:38
Speaker 5: marketplace before it came out of that marketplace, and he
19:40
Speaker 5: met in the terms of a human infection, not in
19:43
Speaker 5: a animal infection. So yeah, so I spent you know,
19:46
Speaker 5: there's nothing else to do in twenty twenty, So yeah,
19:48
Speaker 5: I was sitting behind this desk and you know, taping
19:50
Speaker 5: with you and not going out and doing very much
19:53
Speaker 5: and researching it endlessly. And now we find out late
19:57
Speaker 5: January Fauci's like, yeah, you know, we know it was
20:00
Speaker 5: not we.
20:01
Speaker 1: Know the market was not the source. It was an amplifier.
20:03
Speaker 5: And he's not saying we think he's not saying, we
20:06
Speaker 5: believe he's not saying. A preponderance of the evidence. He's
20:10
Speaker 5: saying it pretty deffinitively. Now, this is an internal kind
20:12
Speaker 5: of diary entry, so maybe he's using kind of a
20:15
Speaker 5: colloquial shorthand, but it basically is interesting to know that
20:18
Speaker 5: Fauci from very early on did not believe that the
20:20
Speaker 5: wet market. Now, I went back and I checked when
20:22
Speaker 5: I was writing about this yesterday, I did not find
20:24
Speaker 5: any case in which Fauci said the virus came from
20:27
Speaker 5: a wet market. He did have a lot of cases
20:29
Speaker 5: over he poo pooed the idea of the lab leak theory,
20:32
Speaker 5: and he basically did not believe the idea that it
20:35
Speaker 5: was caught in the wild, brought it to a lab,
20:37
Speaker 5: and then accidentally escaped. So he was definitely a loud
20:40
Speaker 5: skeptic of that. Well, if it didn't come from the
20:42
Speaker 5: wet market, had to come from somewhere, And I remind
20:45
Speaker 5: people that, yes, the Muhana instead of virology gets most
20:48
Speaker 5: of the attention, and deservedly.
20:49
Speaker 1: So, but also the Wuhan Centers for Disease.
20:51
Speaker 5: Control, another facility even closer to the wet market, was
20:54
Speaker 5: doing research on coronaviruses found in bats. And all it
20:59
Speaker 5: takes is one guy to not wear his personal protective
21:01
Speaker 5: equipment to get bit to get stuck with a needle
21:04
Speaker 5: on for you, Like, one of the things I learned
21:06
Speaker 5: in doing all the research for this is that lab
21:08
Speaker 5: accidents happen. I'm not going to say every day, but
21:10
Speaker 5: like they're not that rare now, thankfully most of them
21:13
Speaker 5: are very minoring. Person doesn't get sick, they get they say,
21:15
Speaker 5: self isolate for a period. Everything turns out okay. In
21:18
Speaker 5: this case, it may well not have. And the Chinese
21:20
Speaker 5: have never cooperated on that, and a lot of people say, oh,
21:23
Speaker 5: it's just the way the Chinese are. Yeah, but also,
21:25
Speaker 5: this is what the Chinese would do if they were guilty, right,
21:27
Speaker 5: this is what they would do if they actually knew
21:29
Speaker 5: this was because of their research. They only let the
21:32
Speaker 5: investigators in lunch, they let them go to a very
21:34
Speaker 5: limited tour. So anyway, Fauci is supposed to testify before
21:38
Speaker 5: the Senate, including Rand Paul, later this week. I expect
21:40
Speaker 5: there will be a lot of fireworks. I find this news,
21:43
Speaker 5: but you know, like it's useful to have this information
21:46
Speaker 5: and yet deeply deeply frustrating in light of the fact
21:49
Speaker 5: that we're only learning about this six years later.
21:52
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's other excerpts where he's focused entirely on
21:55
Speaker 3: making sure he's the face of the response of the
21:58
Speaker 3: administration and downgrade Robert Redfield. He's not as good as
22:02
Speaker 3: I am in that kind of thing. It's obvious that
22:04
Speaker 3: he was not trifled with the American people a lot
22:07
Speaker 3: for a very long time. Well let's talk about.
22:10
Speaker 5: Sorry, that's a loss of life in my eyes. That's
22:12
Speaker 5: the recognition of all that work and the idea the
22:16
Speaker 5: whole time the government knew.
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Speaker 1: Jim.
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Speaker 3: There's a glorious military history in the legacy of Greece.
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Speaker 3: Trojan Horse, Trojan War, Alexander the Great, the Byzantines, the
23:37
Speaker 3: modern Greek Independence War in the eighteen twenties and thirties.
23:41
Speaker 3: They fought the Italian's tough and forced the Nazis to
23:43
Speaker 3: come down and help conquer Greece. Some say that delayed
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Speaker 3: the Nazis march into Russia in the summer of nineteen
23:49
Speaker 3: forty one. Others say it didn't make that big of
23:50
Speaker 3: a deal, but nonetheless the Greeks hang tough, but lately,
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Speaker 3: last eighty years, Greeks don't get involved in the fight
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Speaker 3: too much until recently. US post but many others with
24:01
Speaker 3: this story as well, and an air defense system operated
24:03
Speaker 3: by Greek military personnel in Saudi Arabia intercepted two ballistic
24:08
Speaker 3: missiles launched from Yemen on Saturday, targeting oil refineries in Yanbu.
24:13
Speaker 3: Greek security sources telling Reuters Saudi Civil Defense had issued
24:17
Speaker 3: an emergency alert in Yanbu to warn residents of danger. Quote.
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Speaker 3: The attack was launched with two ballistic missiles and targeted
24:24
Speaker 3: the refineries in Yanbu, and Greece deployed a US made
24:28
Speaker 3: Patriot air defense battery operated by Greek personnel, leading former
24:32
Speaker 3: White House Press Secretary Ari Flesher to point out this
24:35
Speaker 3: is significant. Greece has done more to help the US
24:37
Speaker 3: Center allies than Turkey file that away, and as we know,
24:40
Speaker 3: Turkey has actually had to be talked out of joining
24:42
Speaker 3: the Iranian side of this war. So, Jim, you know,
24:46
Speaker 3: we don't see a lot of Greek military triumphsal take
24:48
Speaker 3: them where I can get.
24:49
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Greg, you know, the country of
24:52
Speaker 5: your heritage does a really long history. When you're referring
24:55
Speaker 5: to something in the eighteen twenties as the modern Independence War, Yes, yes,
25:00
Speaker 5: But secondly, this is the greatest promotional tie in to
25:03
Speaker 5: the Odyssey I've ever seen. You know, Christopher Nolan Man
25:07
Speaker 5: does he does everything live action. He doesn't, he doesn't
25:10
Speaker 5: do anything for CGI. Thirdly, I finally, we were talking
25:13
Speaker 5: about a rain earlier. I figured it out. We build
25:15
Speaker 5: a giant wooden horse or wait, have they seen this
25:19
Speaker 5: one before?
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's right.
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Speaker 5: This is basically three hundreds you know, Greeks versus Persians exactly.
25:25
Speaker 3: Maybe they're looking to chalk one more up. But I
25:29
Speaker 3: didn't even know.
25:29
Speaker 5: We only need three hundred guys, right, that's right.
25:32
Speaker 3: I didn't even know they were in the mix over there.
25:33
Speaker 3: So this is kind of a fun little story to see. Obviously,
25:36
Speaker 3: they're using our weapons and we're the big brother in
25:40
Speaker 3: this whole operation. But good to see there at least
25:42
Speaker 3: willing to stick their nose out a little bit here. Anyway, Jim,
25:45
Speaker 3: have a great day, see tomorrow.
25:47
Speaker 1: See tomorrow, Greg.
25:48
Speaker 3: Jim Garretty, National Review. I'm Greg Corumbus of Radio America.
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