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Bonus Episode: Scene Showdown, Partying With Tyson, and Juvenile Stickups · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about the great music cities of all time. Okay, We're also,
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  Speaker 1: of course talking about our disgrace Land full episode on
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Brown and some of the research that went into
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  Speaker 1: making that episode, and of course your voicemails, text and more,
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  Speaker 1: and as always a whole lot of rosie.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Discus, let's get into it, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, disc goes. I don't think the world thinks of
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Brown as a Boston artist, because Bobby Brown transcended
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  Speaker 1: his hometown long ago, became a global superstar. He relocated
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  Speaker 1: to Atlanta to copulate with ghosts. You can listen to
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  Speaker 1: the full episode of Disgrace and to hear what I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about there, and you know, Boston kind of let
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  Speaker 1: go of Bobby Brown a little bit too. I think,
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  Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I'm from Boston, and throughout
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  Speaker 1: the making of this episode, I barely thought of Bobby
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  Speaker 1: Brown as a Boston artists, even though part of it
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  Speaker 1: is set there. But he is, He's Roxbury and he's
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  Speaker 1: eighties combat Zone at his core. I started thinking of
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  Speaker 1: Bobby this morning as a Boston artist. Though Bobby's first band,
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  Speaker 1: New Edition, an incredible boy band before we even called
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  Speaker 1: them boy bands. It was a group that gave way
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  Speaker 1: eventually to Bell Biv Devaux, and a group that, had
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  Speaker 1: they never happened, New Kids in the Bloc likely never
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  Speaker 1: would have happen either. And if that didn't happen, If
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  Speaker 1: New Kids didn't happen, then Marky Mark wouldn't have happened,
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  Speaker 1: and then Boogie Nights probably wouldn't been as awesome. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting off track, but you can start to see
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  Speaker 1: the point that I'm trying to make Boston music. Boston
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  Speaker 1: has an incredible music lineage, an incredible music history, and
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  Speaker 1: is always has been an incredible music scene. I can't
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  Speaker 1: really speak to the current scene. I no longer live
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  Speaker 1: in Massachusetts full time, and even before I left, the
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  Speaker 1: scene just had changed, like most music scenes had changed,
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  Speaker 1: sort of leading up to COVID and then of course
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  Speaker 1: during and after COVID. But you cannot mess with Boston's
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  Speaker 1: place as a music scene in history and how it
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  Speaker 1: stacks up to other cities other than New York City.
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  Speaker 1: Though I can't think of a better music city than Boston.
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  Speaker 1: I'm putting New York City aside because nothing can compare
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  Speaker 1: musically with New York City. It's where jazz, disco, punk, rock,
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  Speaker 1: hip hop were invented. Hell, it's probably even where pop
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  Speaker 1: music was invented. At the very least, it's where pop
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  Speaker 1: was refined and honed to become the cultural juggernaut that
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  Speaker 1: it became in the twenty century. But back to Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put New York City aside and ask the question,
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  Speaker 1: what is the greatest music scene of all time? Okay, Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be what most of you are going to
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  Speaker 1: say for Seattle, Okay, Los Angeles, New Orleans, Memphis, Chicago, Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: I'm quickly running out of options, Philly, Gamble and Huff, Hollinoates,
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  Speaker 1: low Ka, Kannie and k and Dagger. Who else is there?
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  Speaker 1: I'm being a smart ass, but off the top of
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  Speaker 1: my head, I'm finding it hard to come up with
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  Speaker 1: other notable artists from Philly, Frank Stallone, Chicago, The Blues, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you got a point, Chess Records, etc. Muddy Waters all
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  Speaker 1: the way to Steve Albini. I can see the argument
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  Speaker 1: at least, but I'm not buying it. Memphis. Strong argument
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  Speaker 1: here because of course of Sun Records and Elvis Presley.
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  Speaker 1: But after Stax Records and into the eighties and the
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  Speaker 1: nineties into the now, how much hustle and flow can
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  Speaker 1: we actually ride on? New Orleans. I'm sorry, but jazz
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately is not influential enough when it comes to the
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  Speaker 1: zeitgeist when it comes to modern day culture of the
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  Speaker 1: last twenty thirty years. Lil Wayne, no disrespect, He's huge
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  Speaker 1: in all, but I'm not buying New Orleans. Los Angeles though,
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  Speaker 1: super strong argument. You got big bands, West Coast Swing,
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Vampires, punk rock, the most violent hardcore scene ever
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  Speaker 1: probably hair metal, Guns n' roses alone, NWA, all the
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  Speaker 1: gangs to Wrap, to say nothing of Los Lobos, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure a bunch of different musical genres that have
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  Speaker 1: had influence on popular culture and very significant ways. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking of at the moment, but overall,
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  Speaker 1: h kind of spotty. La is the closest, though. I
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  Speaker 1: think the Gibs Boston a run for its hard earned
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  Speaker 1: working class money. Seattle, I'm sorry, but no fucking way.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle was a blip okay, like like a tweet storm,
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  Speaker 1: very loud, very powerful and impactful, but ultimately not a
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  Speaker 1: lot behind it and not for a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: But let's run it down, okay, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you want to call him a Seattle band,
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  Speaker 1: mud Honey, the greatest Seattle band of all time, The Melvins,
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  Speaker 1: Alison Chains, Temple of the Mother, Love Bone Dog, the Gets,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I'm done. Actually no, not Kenny g Sir,
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  Speaker 1: mix a Lot, Macamore. Who's who am I missing? I
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  Speaker 1: know I left off my list some subpop bands that
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  Speaker 1: I should be mentioning, some good ones. They're just I
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  Speaker 1: can't think of off the top of my head right now.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Seattle's impact is very much excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: Seattle's impact is very much one time, really one era,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, and I know, I know, it's kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of a big era.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of a very super important era and impactful era.
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  Speaker 1: I've acknowledged that, but over the course of time, it
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  Speaker 1: does not compare to Boston. With Boston, we're starting in
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  Speaker 1: and around the sixties, early sixties, and we're going all
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  Speaker 1: the way up into the oats okay of just producing
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  Speaker 1: wildly influential, great bands, so in no particular order of awesomeness.
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  Speaker 1: Just you know, before as I list these right, just
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  Speaker 1: to put a little little shine on what I just said,
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  Speaker 1: there just one more thing when I list these bands,
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  Speaker 1: ask yourself, which other city can boast such an impressive
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  Speaker 1: list of bands that weren't just subjectively great, like from
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, but that actually had an effect on culture.
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  Speaker 1: Again that they affected culture, They affected the Zeikeist, they
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  Speaker 1: were on the charts, they were featured in films, television,
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  Speaker 1: had mega influence over our artists from other cities. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about the fact that Nirvana wouldn't exist without the Pixies.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, here's the list. Let's start there with the Pixies. Okay, Pixies,
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  Speaker 1: Dinosaur Junior, Modern Lovers, Jonathan Richmond, The Cars, Boston, Aerosmith, Lemonheads,
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  Speaker 1: Blake Babies, Juliana Halfield, Dropkick, Murphy's Mighty Mighty, Bostones, Morphine
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  Speaker 1: Till Tuesday In Amy Man, Mission of Burma, Slapshot, Bane, Buffalo,
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  Speaker 1: Tom The Remains, Looked Them Up, The Real Kids, That
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  Speaker 1: Jay Fucking Giles Band, Del Fuego's Donna Summer, James Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: Come Gangstar, New Kids on the Mother Humping Block, Converge,
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  Speaker 1: and of course New Edition In the subject of this
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  Speaker 1: week's episode, Bobby Brown. So, I want to ask the question,
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  Speaker 1: which city, historically speaking, has the greatest music scene? That's
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  Speaker 1: question I want to ask. But it feels like LA
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  Speaker 1: might be the only city that comes close. Someone from
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles give me a call. Let me know why
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  Speaker 1: La is a better scene than Boston. I can almost
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  Speaker 1: make the argument myself, but I'm not quite getting there.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone else that thinks the Boston list is whay, Hit
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  Speaker 1: me up. Tell me why you know whatever Omaha's music
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  Speaker 1: scene or Portland or wherever else is better than Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Old head Boston music scenesirs. I know you hate me.
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  Speaker 1: Call in let me know what an uneducated poser I
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  Speaker 1: am for not including the Nets, Big Dipper, the neighborhoods.
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  Speaker 1: I see you fuckers. Okay, it was an accident. There's
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  Speaker 1: just too many great bands and I just mentioned him anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So get in touch all of you. I want to
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  Speaker 1: know greatest music scenes in history, or why your scene
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  Speaker 1: is better than Boston and why Boston scene sucks, whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is, Hit me up and let me know. Six
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  Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight. I'll
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  Speaker 1: on Bobby Brown. Our primary source is a book that
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  Speaker 1: came out in twenty sixteen, and it's a whopper. It's
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  Speaker 1: called Every Little Step My Story, and of course is
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  Speaker 1: written by Bobby Brown himself, along with Nick Chilla's Chili's
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  Speaker 1: Child's I don't know how to pronounce it. Nick, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're an award winning journalist and I know
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  Speaker 1: I should know. But anyways, Bobby Lay's it all out,
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  Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and believe it or not, probably
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  Speaker 1: the most batshit crazy story that we've ever uncovered in
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  Speaker 1: any episode of Disgraceland. Um more than one, actually, okay,
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't even know what is. What is the
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  Speaker 1: craziest the sex with the ghosts are making chicken with cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: having sexual intercourse with the ghosts in is Haunted Atlanta Mansion,
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  Speaker 1: of course, partying in Japan with Mike Tyson the night
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  Speaker 1: before the heavyweight champ lost that fight the Buster Douglas,
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much. Bobby Brown hooking up with his
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  Speaker 1: sister's friend in jail so much, it's just it's just nuts,
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  Speaker 1: it's just crazy. To give you an idea, here's a
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  Speaker 1: direct quote from the book, all right, quote one memorable night,
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  Speaker 1: one of the ghosts descended from the ceiling and had
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  Speaker 1: sex with me. After you stop laughing, I need you
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  Speaker 1: to hear what I'm saying, because I'm not making this up.
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  Speaker 1: And let me add this. This was before I ever
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  Speaker 1: touched any drug besides weed and alcohol. That, of course,
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  Speaker 1: is Bobby Brown talking, not me. Bobby then goes on
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  Speaker 1: to describe in the book the sex that he had
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  Speaker 1: with the ghost in great detail. I swear I'm not
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  Speaker 1: making this up. All right now, seeing as this book
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  Speaker 1: was written by Bobby Brown and it's one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: Bobby's pov throughout, you won't be surprised to find out
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  Speaker 1: that a big part of the narrative is trying to
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  Speaker 1: prove that Bobby wasn't the bad boy that he was
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  Speaker 1: made out to be the bad boy by the press,
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  Speaker 1: by the media, by other people, that his bad boy
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  Speaker 1: image was, in his own words, a label that feels
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  Speaker 1: two one dimensional. Now, of course, there is sufficient evidence
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  Speaker 1: out there, a lot of which happened out loud in
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  Speaker 1: the public eye, that would prove otherwise that Bobby Brown
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  Speaker 1: was indeed a bad boy. So, of course, in our
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  Speaker 1: research we balanced out Bobby's book with other points of view,
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  Speaker 1: profiles written on him during his reign on the pop charts,
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  Speaker 1: video interviews, including the explosive one that we documented in
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  Speaker 1: this episode where he blows up when an interviewer calls
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  Speaker 1: his mom a riot. You can find that online, that's
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  Speaker 1: easy to search out. And most importantly, the perspective of
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  Speaker 1: his former wife, Whitney Houston, who gave a powerful interview
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  Speaker 1: to Oprah Winfrey in two thousand and nine, just a
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  Speaker 1: few years before she died. In that interview, that perspective
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  Speaker 1: of Whitney's was crucial for the conclusion of our narrative.
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  Speaker 1: If you heard the episode, you're going to know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. Go check that out, all right, Let me
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  Speaker 1: know what you think. Let me know what you think
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  Speaker 1: of our take on Bobby Brown. This balancing this one
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  Speaker 1: was important to us. You know, when I did the
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  Speaker 1: Whitney Houston episode back in gosh, when was that two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and twenty one or something like that. Twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: might even be twenty nineteen, it doesn't matter. But when
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  Speaker 1: I was researching Whitney Houston, I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: there's a Bobby Brown episode here as well. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of the research that I did on Whitney Houston, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fingers being pointed at Bobby Brown. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: is that binary to me. However, we tried to balance
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  Speaker 1: it out here, but still it was. It was tough,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, as someone who actually really uh W,
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  Speaker 1: how do I put this, appreciates Bobby Brown as a
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  Speaker 1: pop star? You know, I don't know. It's like, you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to just do this completely one sided depiction
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  Speaker 1: of the person. But this one was hurt not too
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, let us know how you think we landed
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  Speaker 1: the plane six one seven nine oh six six six
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  Speaker 1: three eight. And while you're at it, get in touch,
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  Speaker 1: send us a voicemail, leave us text. I want to
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  Speaker 1: know if Bobby Brown's hometown of Boston is the greatest
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  Speaker 1: music scene of all time. It's to a voicemail here,
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  Speaker 1: this one from the two to oh six on Bobby Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Jake, what's up? It's Tony from the two oh six.
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  Speaker 3: Just listen to the Bobby Brown album My Prerogative is
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  Speaker 3: one of the greatest R and B new jet swing
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  Speaker 3: albums of all time. But there was something in there
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  Speaker 3: that I wanted to pick your brain at. When you
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  Speaker 3: talked about Mike Tyson losing because he was partying with
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  Speaker 3: Bobby Brown the night before. There's always been this conspiracy
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  Speaker 3: that the referee essentially allowed Buster Douglas to have more
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  Speaker 3: time to get up, because if you look at that
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  Speaker 3: fight when Tyson locked him down, you know the referee
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  Speaker 3: gave him more great time to get up, Like when
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  Speaker 3: the rest counts, he's like one, two, back up, Mike, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: I need you to back up, three four, Mike, I said,
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  Speaker 3: back up, I really need you to back up five six.
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  Speaker 3: So where you see Tyson gett knocked out. Tyson's trying
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  Speaker 3: to get up and he's trying to grab his mouth
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  Speaker 3: piece and everything. So there's always been this conspiracy. Even
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  Speaker 3: Mike talked about this himself and his One band show
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  Speaker 3: just curious to know your thoughts on that. I know
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  Speaker 3: you did a Mike Tyson episode a few a while back.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully you'll release that as a rewind episode in the future.
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  Speaker 3: Much love and hope you some's going good.
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  Speaker 1: Peace, Hey Tony from the two oh six interesting take,
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  Speaker 1: and to be perfectly honest with you, I've never really
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about this. I don't know about the
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  Speaker 1: ref throwing it here from Mike. I wouldn't be surprised. However,
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  Speaker 1: nothing would shock me when it comes to Mike Tyson,
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  Speaker 1: and nothing would shock me when it comes to boxing,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the eighties or early nineties, whenever this was,
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  Speaker 1: things were a little how do you say, looser? So
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna check that out. I'm on probably YouTube that
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  Speaker 1: tonight and try to come to my own conclusion. Appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the call, Thank you. Let's do some text here. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see what we got here on the old message box
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  Speaker 1: eight one eight right, say hey, Jake Mickey here the
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Brown episode was ace. I'm a big Bobby fan
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  Speaker 1: and a huge New Edition fan, so I knew my
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  Speaker 1: fair share about him. But then I listened to this
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  Speaker 1: episode and got educated even more. Good stuff, My man,
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  Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. Thank you, Mickey, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: I love your you of the word ace in the
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  Speaker 1: text five to four to oh rights And Okay, So
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: here's an episode idea, the Adventures of Burt Reynolds. You
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about icons, well, at least for you
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  Speaker 1: and me, he is one of the biggest. Just a thought.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good thought. The history of Burt Reynolds. I
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  Speaker 1: kind of know a little bit about it. I know
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about it. I'm not going to tell
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  Speaker 1: you why because I'm saving that for when I actually
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  Speaker 1: do an episode on Burt Reynolds. But I have a
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  Speaker 1: very personal connection to Burt Reynolds and Bert in his life.
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  Speaker 1: And again I'm gonna save that one, so that will
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  Speaker 1: be coming up at some point. Two of seven rights
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  Speaker 1: in Tiger Woods, Anthony Bourdain not a disgraced an athlete,
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  Speaker 1: but still I think he'd be a great golf buddy.
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  Speaker 1: And Lawrence Taylor. I haven't heard you do an episode
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  Speaker 1: on him, but if you haven't done one of you should.
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  Speaker 1: episode this month is on Waylon Jennings and here's a clip.
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  Speaker 1: Check it out. August twenty fourth, nineteen seventy seven, American
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  Speaker 1: Sound Recording Studio, Nashville, little over a week since the
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  Speaker 1: King himself, Elvis Presley, took his last seat on a
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  Speaker 1: porcelain throne. Whalan was eager to finish Lane down this
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  Speaker 1: harmony track on his wife Jesse's new song, equally eager
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  Speaker 1: to then dip into the stash of cocaine sitting at
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  Speaker 1: through the mail drugs via the United States Postal System,
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  Speaker 1: just the sort of brass ball's outlaw move that only
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  Speaker 1: Waylon Jennings could pull off. Or so the thinking went.
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  Speaker 1: On the other side of the double glass wall in
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  Speaker 1: the control room, where Waylan's drummer Richie Albright, was running
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  Speaker 1: the recording session, the outside door flew open. Two men
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  Speaker 1: stepped inside, dagents who had been tracking Willeland's package of cocaine.
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  Speaker 1: Richie was fast, he thought, fast, acted fast. He leaned
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  Speaker 1: back against the recording console and pressed his hand down
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  Speaker 1: on the talkback button. Now this is an important detail.
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  Speaker 1: The American Sound Recording studio was equipped with a Harrison
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  Speaker 1: mixing console, which, unlike most mixing consoles at the time,
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  Speaker 1: had a talkback button that, when pressed, allowed both the
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  Speaker 1: Whalen was to simultaneously talk to and hear each other.
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  Speaker 1: Other consoles only allowed for one way communication, so Richie Albright,
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  Speaker 1: without the dea agent's knowing was allowing Whalen through the
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  Speaker 1: entire conversation with the FEDS as it unfolded. So Richie says,
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  Speaker 1: can I help you? Boys? This is a closed session.
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  Speaker 1: Agent number one goes, what happened to that package that
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  Speaker 1: was just delivered? Richie goes, do y'all have a warrant?
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  Speaker 1: Agent number one says, we have a warrant for Whalon
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  Speaker 1: Jennings's arrest. Richie, listen, boys, I'd love to help you,
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  Speaker 1: This place is like two hundred bucks an hour. Caho
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  Speaker 1: just finished the take, and then Whaleen is all yours.
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  Speaker 1: Agent number two looked at Agent number one and gave
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  Speaker 1: the top and Whalen began to sing again. Halfway through
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  Speaker 1: the chorus, Richie stopped the tape and pressed on the
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  Speaker 1: Harrison talkback button again. Whalen, I'm sorry, but there's something
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  Speaker 1: wrong with your microphone. Let me come in there real
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  Speaker 1: quick and swap it out for another. The agents waited impatiently,
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  Speaker 1: Whichie slipped into the studio room, replaced the mic, and
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  Speaker 1: then very carefully, without anyone noticing, remove the bags of
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  Speaker 1: cocaine from the box at Whalan's feet and slid them
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  Speaker 1: while the DEA agents grilled Whalan where I come from?
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  Speaker 1: Whalan said, possession means got it, and you boys ain't
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: That was a clip from our brand new episode on
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  Speaker 1: honor of this week's episode on Bobby Brown, me reading
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  Speaker 1: Buying Them Link Elliott House, Cambridge five four seven eight
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