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- 0:15Welcome to Barbara Cuts, Beats and Bars.
- 0:17We're a father and daughter music podcast that slices into
- 0:19some of the greatest albums, one cut at a time.
- 0:22With no industry ties or formal training, just a shared love of
- 0:25music, we explore albums across genres, rating favorites and
- 0:29skips while digging into what makes each one iconic.
- 0:33I bring the beats. And I bring the bars and
- 0:36together we deliver real talk and fresh takes from both sides
- 0:39of the sound. Hey, I'm Riley.
- 0:41And I'm Todd and welcome to this week's episode of Barber Cuts.
- 0:45And this week we're talking about a soul classic.
- 0:49What's going on by Marvin Gaye from 1971.
- 0:55Not just really a soul classic, as we will learn, an all time
- 1:00classic apparently. So we will see what we think of
- 1:03it as we go. So let's kick it off.
- 1:07Rally What are your least favorite from the album?
- 1:12All right, so my least favorite are back-to-back.
- 1:18It's right on and Holy Holy Holy Holy is just a lot slower than
- 1:25the others and that's OK. It just felt off in this mix of
- 1:32songs. I liked the song.
- 1:35I think I would like it if it was separate from this album,
- 1:38but with the rest of this album, it just kind of fell short
- 1:42compared to the other ones. And then right on.
- 1:48I really hope you as a beat person know what I'm talking
- 1:50about. Do you know the part where it
- 1:52sounds like he's twisting a gear or something and it repeats
- 1:55throughout the entire song? Yeah, that got on my nerves.
- 2:01I don't like that sound. That sound bothers me.
- 2:04I don't like how it sounds anytime so like the construct
- 2:08clock, clock clock, it like was happening throughout the song
- 2:12was like, Oh my gosh, it was like nails on a chalkboard to
- 2:14me. And so I couldn't even really
- 2:16appreciate the song for what it was because I happened to not
- 2:19like how that particular noise sounds.
- 2:22So very unfair. Least favorite, but it was my
- 2:25least favorite nonetheless. Sometimes.
- 2:27It is what it is. So my, one of my least favorites
- 2:33was right on. And you know, wasn't wasn't
- 2:38necessarily a fan of I guess how it started it it, it seemed like
- 2:43maybe the seemed like he was standing far away from the
- 2:47microphone and started walking closer as the song went on.
- 2:52And again, maybe obviously meant to be that way, but just caught
- 2:57me off guard. And then overall, you know, it,
- 3:02it seemed like it was 2 songs. And you know, since again, this
- 3:09is we'll, we'll talk about this later and maybe more in depth,
- 3:13but this album is a concept album and really just one long
- 3:18song, you know, as it just flows in and out.
- 3:22And so, you know, and I didn't know that going in, but very
- 3:26quickly figure that out. And I honestly thought that I
- 3:31listen to two songs and but it wasn't so just, you know, for
- 3:39for those reasons. Again, it's it's some of these
- 3:42are split in hairs and my least favorite and unfortunately,
- 3:45because like the lyrics send out a good message.
- 3:49So unfortunate, but Save the Children the the spoken word and
- 3:56then singing the same words as the spoken word just threw me
- 4:02off. Much like you talking about the
- 4:04the noise from right on got you that got me.
- 4:08And I'm like, that's, that's just weird to me.
- 4:12And again, personal so, but those are my 2 least favorites.
- 4:18So Riley, what were your favorite too?
- 4:23So my second top favorite was Save the Children and I really
- 4:31like the circuit word and music. I like the call and response
- 4:35feel of it. I I think it fit the lyrics of
- 4:41the song well. Like if he were to do that on
- 4:44any song, it would have had to be that one because it's it's
- 4:47kind of asking this question and calling out to people.
- 4:54I understand. Like that's not many people's
- 4:56like trope. I just happen to like it or be
- 4:59OK with it enough. And I liked the lyrics.
- 5:03Just I think what's special, and we can get in this later too,
- 5:07but what's really special about Marvin Gaye and why he's like a
- 5:13household name for many reasons, but one of them is his lyrics
- 5:18are very timeless yet of the times.
- 5:23Yes. And so a lot of the songs that I
- 5:27was listening to that both of my top favorites were like, these
- 5:32are things I hear today. And it's kind of this nice
- 5:35reminder that like, it's this nice reminder, but also sad that
- 5:41it's not a new thing. What we're experiencing like
- 5:45this, this pain and this hurt, is not like apocalyptic.
- 5:48And we're all gonna die like it's been happening, you know,
- 5:51since before you were born. Before I've been born like it.
- 5:54It's happened forever. Yes, and let the record reflect.
- 5:58This album is from before I was born.
- 6:03Yay. We got, we got, we got one.
- 6:07But the he was also so like ahead of his time.
- 6:11I know the 70s was like a big time for like awareness and
- 6:16acting on certain things, but for him to start talking about
- 6:20like, I mean, the lyrics that I I'm thinking of are The Who
- 6:25really cares? Who's willing to try to save a
- 6:27world, save our sweet world, to save the world that's destined
- 6:30to die. And like that I I nerd alert
- 6:34took him religion and ethics and nature class.
- 6:39And that's like the biggest environmental question is like,
- 6:45should we save the world? Should we work to make the world
- 6:48a better place for our kids? Or should we care if it's going
- 6:50to die anyway? Like what's what's the point to
- 6:53do anything about it if it's just going to die anyway?
- 6:55Do we have the right to impact that at all?
- 7:00And so like that is such a big. You're supposed to save your
- 7:04philosophical question for the end, like we did last week with
- 7:08Do Hills have Edges? So now this is 2 weeks where
- 7:12we've got a very. Well, Marvin Gaye is a very
- 7:16philosophical singer. Like his lyrics are just very
- 7:20philosophical. So like, that's just for him to
- 7:24have this whole song about like, who's going to step up and do
- 7:27this and just like save people? But it's got anyway and really
- 7:35interesting to me as someone who had like literally just spent a
- 7:38whole semester studying that question and asking that
- 7:41question. My other favorite song was
- 7:46what's happening, brother, which I just said very white, but I I
- 7:52gave him my best. It's another case of like the
- 7:58same things are happening. It's can't find no work, can't
- 8:01find no job. My money is tighter than it's
- 8:02ever been. I just don't understand what's
- 8:04going on across this land talking.
- 8:08It talks about like anger and war and like like home, like it.
- 8:14It just covers all of the things that are big topics now and I
- 8:21found like especially like the job and money, like those are
- 8:24big things now, maybe more for me just because I'm having to
- 8:28think about all of that and all my friends are but like that's
- 8:33something I've heard. And then also in that song, it's
- 8:38a tell me what's out. I want to know what's in what's
- 8:42the deal? And then it kind of talks about
- 8:44how he's just a little behind. And it almost feels like the
- 8:48you're always going to be behind the times.
- 8:51Like it was in the media. Something that's in a minute ago
- 8:55can be out in the next minute. Like you're never going to fully
- 8:58catch up to what's happening in the world.
- 9:02It's you just don't have enough time in the day to have a life
- 9:05and also do that. And I also really liked that
- 9:10song past just the lyrics kind of like how it it is like it
- 9:15sounds like he's talking to a friend.
- 9:19It sounds like he's trying to have a conversation that's
- 9:23friendly and amicable. It doesn't sound like it kind of
- 9:27feels like you're part of that conversation, not just listening
- 9:31to a song. And that's really interesting.
- 9:35What about you? So my 2 favorites, you know, I I
- 9:40really like Mercy MercyMe and that's one of his more popular
- 9:45ones. And again in the end though, I
- 9:48went with Inner City Blues. I hadn't, at least that I
- 9:54remember really heard it before listening through this, but
- 9:59really seemed to be a good finishing song for this album
- 10:04because there were lyrics in this one about many of the other
- 10:10songs throughout. And so that was that was really
- 10:15neat to see. You know, and, and you might
- 10:20agree or very wholeheartedly disagree with some of the
- 10:25political statements he was making at the time or even now,
- 10:28but the lyric from this song, it makes me want to holler and
- 10:34throw up both my hands. That's something we can, you
- 10:38know, all relate to and in one way or the other because we all
- 10:42get frustrated about something. And so the nature of, OK, I may
- 10:47not disagree with the guy or I may disagree with the guy.
- 10:50Whatever way you fall when you can find commonality and lyrics,
- 10:57like that's the powerful nature of what music and songs can do,
- 11:02you know. And so so I really like that one
- 11:06And my favorite was, you know, I'm I'm going to be a Homer and
- 11:11just say what's going on? Like that's a really good song
- 11:17and found myself going back to it.
- 11:19Like I that's one of the ones that I'd, you know, heard
- 11:22before, knew it going in, But and I'm going to copy some of
- 11:29the things you did. It opens with a party going on
- 11:34with voices that almost helps establish that conversational
- 11:38nature of the album that you just mentioned in what's
- 11:41happening, brother. So it like kick starts right at
- 11:44the beginning, like you're at a party about to just sit down and
- 11:48talk with friends and family and about what's going on.
- 11:53And it's literally the name of the album, the first song.
- 11:57And it seems like the entire album is them trying to figure
- 12:01that out of what's going on. But the saxophone intro was a,
- 12:07you know, brief solo like that. That's that's nice.
- 12:12And it's almost like a call to the party to quiet down and
- 12:16listen to the message, Like, here's what we're about to say,
- 12:19which was neat to me. Overall, it's it's catchy.
- 12:23It's silky smooth, bluesy, soulful jazz like all mixed in
- 12:28there, you know? And then there's a lyric in
- 12:32there that's just holds true then holds true now for Only
- 12:37Love can conquer hate. Like such a good line and so
- 12:42true. And then I also liked the
- 12:48scatting the in the middle of the song toward the end.
- 12:52It just kind of fit with what everything was going on.
- 12:56And like, again, he's just chilling and hanging out with
- 13:00friends and having a conversation and like, hey,
- 13:04watch this, you know? So those were my favorite too.
- 13:14So why? And we've started hitting on it,
- 13:19but we can delve in a little bit deeper.
- 13:22Why is this album on our list, do you think?
- 13:27I'll let you go first 'cause you started some of it already.
- 13:31Yeah, I think, I think the nature of like kind of like what
- 13:37you said, no matter which side you fall on, on a lot of the
- 13:41stuff he sings about, like there's a common ground in his
- 13:45songs. There's like a a hopeful
- 13:50frustration, like a mix of that. There's just trying to figure
- 13:54out what's going on. And as I mentioned earlier, it's
- 13:59very like of the times, like of like the the time that he was
- 14:04writing, this was a very progressive time.
- 14:08They were trying to figure out a lot about science, about the
- 14:11world, about politics, about all of that.
- 14:14Yet the way he writes it, it's it's very timeless.
- 14:18He writes about it just general enough for it to still apply to
- 14:24today and to whatever time you listen to it.
- 14:27I mean, we live in a society that like no matter how much
- 14:32money is in the world, we're will relate to, the money is
- 14:36tighter than it's ever been before.
- 14:37Like that's just the nature of how we feel towards that.
- 14:41And like his his broad philosophies like love conquers
- 14:48hate and like who's going to save the world if it's destined
- 14:52to die? And like his Christian values or
- 14:56like the God type values with the Goddess love where he like
- 15:01starts saying like God Bible, stuff like that.
- 15:03Like it's, it's very, I don't know, it's very, it's a lot more
- 15:11I, I don't know how to word this.
- 15:12It's a lot more like education, like filled with education than
- 15:18a lot of other songs. Like it's very philosophical,
- 15:22very ethical, ask a lot of questions about that and seems
- 15:26to like constantly be looking for those answers and pulling
- 15:29some back together. And like with the conversation
- 15:33type, it feels like they're like what's going on and listing like
- 15:36all these things that are happening.
- 15:37And then someone's responding with like, well, the Bible says
- 15:40this and this philosophy says this.
- 15:42And it's like answering that question and then it adds in a
- 15:45new question and like, OK, where do we go from here then?
- 15:48Yeah. And it just brings you on this
- 15:51journey with them in a way that's very neat.
- 15:55And he's inviting that conversation at the very end of
- 15:58what's going on, which is the first song when he says, like,
- 16:01come on and talk to me so you can see what's going on.
- 16:05Like, I want to have a conversation, you know?
- 16:09And it may not have been this way in real life, but in the
- 16:13song, the persona is almost like we, we can have a chat.
- 16:17We may not agree, but let's let's have a talk because
- 16:22there's some things that are going on in my life and in this
- 16:25persona that he created for this album that you may not realize
- 16:30or understand. Yeah, and he, I mean, that's the
- 16:33whole purpose of the song. What's happening, brother, is
- 16:38like asking him, like, what's been going on with you?
- 16:42What are your takes on this like with the what's going on?
- 16:45It's like this open question. And then very specifically it
- 16:48kind of talks about like, like, what have you been doing?
- 16:52What's going on with you? What do you feel about like all
- 16:55of this? And so he kind of puts it back
- 16:56into someone's specific court. Yeah, so the whole the whole
- 17:00concept album is, you know, and we have covered Pink Floyd Dark
- 17:07Side of the Moon. That's a concept album kind of
- 17:10goes through the ironically, the concept album that most people
- 17:15would say is the best concept album also about Pink Floyd as
- 17:19the Wall. But this is a concept album in
- 17:23that sense in that it's told from the perspective of a
- 17:26Vietnam War veteran that's returning home and then deals
- 17:31with all these issues that he finds.
- 17:33And so you can you can see first couple lines of the what's
- 17:37happening, brother, I'm just getting back.
- 17:39And you know, if you knew I would war as hell.
- 17:42When will it end? Like we see that persona taking
- 17:46place. But then you see all these other
- 17:48songs war, you know, hatred, suffering, poverty, drug abuse,
- 17:53environment, you know, and one of the things that's neat about
- 17:57this album that does make it great and where they ever
- 18:01listen. The first reported concept album
- 18:04from the soul genre. So he's he's breaking ground in
- 18:09in that sense. And you know not only does does
- 18:12it hit on all these social issues we talked about is also
- 18:16deeply personal to gay. And so the what's going on the
- 18:22title track came first and began as a reaction to police
- 18:27brutality. So somebody from, you know, need
- 18:31to go into all the names or what not.
- 18:32But but somebody from The Four Tops super popular group saw TV
- 18:36coverage of of police, you know, using clubs and violence to
- 18:41break up a protest in Berkeley. The rest of The Four Tops didn't
- 18:45want to record it. So gay took it on.
- 18:47But during that time, he was in a dark point in his life,
- 18:51depression. His marriage was failing at IRS
- 18:55troubles. His duet partner was, you know,
- 19:00had a brain tumor in and died, had cocaine problems and at one
- 19:05point even attempted suicide. But this single released by
- 19:12itself with no album and blew up like January of 71, just blew
- 19:19up, became Motown's fastest selling single at the time.
- 19:22So they were like, OK, we need an album because we don't have
- 19:26an album to go with the song. So they're like, hey, do
- 19:30whatever you want to with the album as long as you finish it
- 19:33by the end of March. And which was equated to about
- 19:3730 days, started on March 1st, was done by March 10th.
- 19:41So yeah, what many people consider to be one of the
- 19:46greatest albums of all time basically took about 10 days.
- 19:50But I, I. Crazy.
- 19:53I think that that's, I don't think that that's I think that's
- 19:58very cool, but I don't think that's unique to the best albums
- 20:01of all times. Like when?
- 20:02You. I get it, Yeah.
- 20:03And and I think that's that's so true to like the art of it all
- 20:11is the the Best Song that I've heard.
- 20:13The best albums that I've heard were all written and like crazy
- 20:17amount of times because it's just so built up in them that it
- 20:21it they're not forcing anything and that's why it's so
- 20:23beautiful. It's because nothing feels
- 20:25forced. It all flows and like that's
- 20:31it's not played with like when albums are are like years in the
- 20:35process, they get played with and then like hearts get messed
- 20:39up or missed or not focused on enough.
- 20:41And so I think that that. Becomes post production heavy
- 20:45like all these various things that, you know, artists often
- 20:48times go back well, I wish the producer or or bixer engineer,
- 20:53whatever wouldn't have done this one thing, you know, whatever it
- 20:56may be, the these time constrained ones like you don't
- 20:59have the time to experiment on all those things.
- 21:01So it's like that first gut response and and that, like you
- 21:05said for for gay and and this album, a lot of this was pent up
- 21:12stuff that, you know, is what made it personal, which is
- 21:16really also what made it so good.
- 21:19Yeah, and I think like there's a there's a skill to being
- 21:25personal without being too personal.
- 21:28Like like we talked about last week, like last week's album,
- 21:32Original Pirate Material by the Streets was like so personal
- 21:36that only like a few thousand to like 10s of thousands of people
- 21:42can really understand what he's talking about.
- 21:45I guess it's very personal and you get a little less personal
- 21:50with things like I'm trying to think of ones that we've talked
- 21:53about. It's like 10 Pearl Jam.
- 21:56There are songs in there. That nobody can.
- 21:58Necessarily that nobody can necessarily relate to, but it
- 22:01sounds nice. Same with some songs on Funeral
- 22:07to me is like some of these songs on Marvin Gaye.
- 22:10They seem deeply personal and to flow like directly from what
- 22:14they're feeling. But they make it just general
- 22:17enough of like war is bad, like money is tight, things are
- 22:21crappy or with funeral sake. It's like, I love this girl and
- 22:25she left me and I don't know who I am.
- 22:27Like there are these overarching things that make it so relatable
- 22:32for every person who listens to it.
- 22:35And that's what's so timeless about this album in particular,
- 22:40is it sounds good, and it does that.
- 22:43Yeah. And so just piggybacking on the
- 22:47IT sounds good. Some of the accolades that that
- 22:50have that have happened with it. So the single hit #2 on the
- 22:54Billboard Hot 100, so just a a pop chart, not not soul.
- 23:00And then it also hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 soul singles
- 23:06and stayed there for five weeks. So then Mercy MercyMe, another
- 23:10song on the album, and Inner City Blues, another song on the
- 23:14album, also reached the top ten of that same soul chart as they
- 23:18were released. And that made Gay the first male
- 23:22solo artist to place three top 10 singles on any Hot 100 chart
- 23:29from one album. So yeah, three top ten from the
- 23:34same album, which is crazy. The album itself inducted
- 23:39another Grammy Hall of Fame in 1998.
- 23:41And again, we've already talked about it.
- 23:44Album is ranked on Rolling Stones 500 greatest albums of
- 23:47all time. They've done, you know, several
- 23:50releases over the years. In number six, it was 20000,
- 23:53Sorry. In number six in 2003, it was #6
- 23:58in 20/20 it was #1 and they changed who voted.
- 24:03It was more musicians instead of music critics.
- 24:06Their latest one that they've got is from 2023 and it's still
- 24:10#1 and you're voting. Population includes artists,
- 24:14producers, music critics and music industry figures from
- 24:18think radio programmers to label heads.
- 24:21So best album of all time is what that population of people
- 24:26consider this to be like. Yeah, I.
- 24:29Mean, think of the albums, even some of the ones that we talked
- 24:32about, like that's, that's crazy.
- 24:35Yeah. And I think, and I don't mean
- 24:38this as like a less than or like making that feat any less than
- 24:42because obviously it still has an impact today, but it I think
- 24:47it really benefited from the times that it was released.
- 24:52Yeah, I can see that. Because soul, soul music was
- 24:56being introduced to like it was, it's it's population that was
- 25:02listening to soul music was widely expanding during like the
- 25:0560s and 70s and you were seeing more people kind of feeling what
- 25:11gay was feeling on all sides of politics.
- 25:15Like it was a pretty dividing and unifying time, all things
- 25:19considered. Like I, I also think about if
- 25:23this album was released today, I don't think it would have been
- 25:26given. I don't think people would have
- 25:28taken it the way that they needed to.
- 25:31I think the space that America and the world was in in like the
- 25:3760s. And I keep saying 60s because it
- 25:40was released early 70s. So like usually the 60s is
- 25:44what's impacting the song. Whenever it's early 70s.
- 25:49Everything that was happening there was like directly what
- 25:53this song was written about. So it skyrocketed because of
- 25:56that. Everyone was feeling that soul
- 25:58was like this new, exciting or not new, but exciting genre that
- 26:02was being brought. Its scope was broadening and all
- 26:06of that. And like that really benefited
- 26:09it or behooved it to like go to the hypes that it did.
- 26:13And I'm, I'm so happy that it did.
- 26:16And it's, we've been able to like still listen to it and love
- 26:21it and learn from it. But I I just, I just always
- 26:26think about like, OK, if this album was released like today
- 26:30and a lot of the best albums of all time will not fare well
- 26:34today. And that's just the nature of
- 26:36how wide music is. I can find, like I, I can find
- 26:41an artist, as we talked about last week, that has 20 something
- 26:44monthly listeners and listen to them and like them.
- 26:47There's so many more albums that you'll never get to listen to
- 26:50today. Yes.
- 26:51And on the flip side of that, to say it the same thing but in a
- 26:55different way, is there's so much music you can listen to
- 27:00today. Yeah.
- 27:03With all the streaming, like music delivery has changed, you
- 27:08know, and, and your artist may say, oh, it's changed for the
- 27:11worse. And that may be true for them,
- 27:15but for the consumer, it's changed for the better because
- 27:19I, I, I, I have so much more access to music that I never did
- 27:24before and it's always at my fingertips.
- 27:28Any any other thoughts about the songs?
- 27:31The one thing that I was gonna say is something else that like
- 27:35it sounds nice going off of that is this is very similar to Isles
- 27:43Davis Kind of Blue, which we haven't talked about yet on
- 27:45here, but you and I have talked about it.
- 27:49I could have this album playing low throughout the entire house
- 27:53all the time and be so happy because it sounds nice and like
- 28:00it's one that you can tune in and out of.
- 28:03I highly recommend tuning in at least a few times.
- 28:06You'll learn a lot. However, it it sounds so nice on
- 28:10top of that that if I just had it on low and was just kind of
- 28:14like listening it, it's it's nice enough that I could do
- 28:17that. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
- 28:20I bet, I bet Mama Pod was having a good, good week this week.
- 28:27It's, you know, it's always, it's always nice to get, you
- 28:30know, at least for me, you know, part, part of my personalities.
- 28:33I'd love to learn new things. And that's essentially what what
- 28:38this album does. If you, if you listen to the
- 28:41music and, and listen to the lyrics all combined together,
- 28:44you get a, you get a window into somebody else's life and
- 28:49somebody else's situation that, you know, let's admit it, I
- 28:53can't, I can't do that. I mean, I know my life, but I, I
- 28:57can't pick in into any other race, ethnicity, socioeconomic.
- 29:03I can't poke into any of those because you know, I'm, I'm not
- 29:08there to live it. And you, you almost feel like
- 29:11because of the lyrics and the easy listening that that he gave
- 29:16you that opportunity to poke in on on somebody else's situation,
- 29:20which is again, very difficult to do.
- 29:24But I think he did it, did it well.
- 29:26Anything else before we hop into ratings?
- 29:31So I will say my last like philosophical thing is, if you
- 29:38like, if you like this album from like a philosophical
- 29:44standpoint, I recommend reading any of Dubois.
- 29:52DUBOIS, he had he. Talked about shaking my head
- 29:58for. He has a philosophical concept
- 30:04or like an ethical theory of double consciousness and that
- 30:07the possibility of double consciousness.
- 30:09And he is writing from a very unique perspective from I think
- 30:141800s or early 1900s. He was a black man, but from a
- 30:20wealthy family. And so he grew up tireless, rich
- 30:26white people, but as a black man.
- 30:30And so he has this whole book about this idea of him living a
- 30:33double life. He wasn't fully there or fully
- 30:36here, but he had to be somewhere in between and it Marvin Gaye is
- 30:43very fully just like I'm this is my life.
- 30:46But what you were just talking about, it's like I can kind of
- 30:49see a window into that life is kind of his, what he's talking
- 30:52about, double consciousness. Very interesting topic, but if
- 30:55you're into philosophy, he's liked this album and what it
- 30:59gave you. I recommend reading Dubois.
- 31:02OK. Ratings.
- 31:05So ratings what you got, Riley? So from a personal standpoint, I
- 31:12would give it an 8. I I really liked it.
- 31:16Like I said, I could have it on in the house all the time, but I
- 31:18don't know if I could like listen to it all the time.
- 31:21But I keep saying this, I I don't, it's not meant to be
- 31:25listening to all the time. The lyrics are not meant to just
- 31:28have in the background. Like it's not the point.
- 31:31The point of this album is to appreciate it, and that's not me
- 31:35saying like the albums that I'm like, oh, I could listen to this
- 31:37all the time is me appreciating it less.
- 31:40It just means it's a different type of music.
- 31:42It's meant for different things. This.
- 31:44This album, This album was meant to make a statement.
- 31:48Right. So you don't always have to
- 31:50listen to it for the statement to still exist.
- 31:53Right. And then from a technical
- 31:56standpoint, I mean, it's going to be hard to argue anything
- 32:00less than a 10. And I mean, that's what I'm
- 32:02giving it from everything we've said, from all of the ratings,
- 32:09from every accolade that it's been given.
- 32:14I mean, I, I challenge someone to try to argue that it's less
- 32:17than a 10 or 9.9. You know, if you're under the
- 32:23nothing is ever perfect. Like I mean, it'd be really hard
- 32:27to give anything less. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
- 32:30My objective rating was a 10 just because of what the album
- 32:36was and still is. And I guess that's, you know,
- 32:43some of the albums maybe that that we have a little bit lower,
- 32:47you know, this one is stood the test of time from 71 to now.
- 32:53You know, some of those others may have fallen a little bit
- 32:55shorter and in different places, but this this one has has not,
- 33:01you know, personal rating just a notch below your So my personal
- 33:07rating is a 7.5 and it and again, not it, it's strange,
- 33:14like I enjoyed it while I listen to it, but again, it wouldn't be
- 33:19something that I just listen to and and that's.
- 33:24Why I gave it to? Me, yeah.
- 33:25I mean, it's, it's, it's not necessarily my genre, but yet
- 33:29I've heard it can listen to it, you know, so it's not that I
- 33:34dislike, you know, the soul, R&B, jazz, you'll love it.
- 33:40I enjoyed that. So but so 7.5 and 10 for me.
- 33:48So song of the week, what is your song of the week?
- 33:56If it's like last week, your song of the Week, 2 songs of the
- 33:59week, album of the week, bands of the week, you just throw them
- 34:03all in there. No, it's not like last week.
- 34:09No, this week is one of my favorite songs and one of Mama
- 34:16Pod's favorite songs. It's.
- 34:18Where were you by Ghost Ship? OK.
- 34:23Great song. It's a great song if you love
- 34:26the message. It's a great song if you don't.
- 34:28I mean, I love the message. It gives me chills.
- 34:32It makes mom and pod cry. It's a good song.
- 34:37It builds throughout the entire song and draw like it just
- 34:41gives. It brings you on like this
- 34:44emotional journey with it, and it's just a really beautiful
- 34:47song. You like it too, but I do.
- 34:49For for for context, just tell people like what the theme of
- 34:54the song is. Oh, it follows the book of Job
- 34:58or it's kind of the last few chapters of the book of Job.
- 35:02And in the book of Job, Job pretty much had the worst life.
- 35:08You, you, you could have. He lost his family, he lost his
- 35:13wealth, he lost his health, he lost everything.
- 35:16And the book of Job is same like struggling with that and talking
- 35:19with friends and talking with God about like why all of this
- 35:23is frustrating. And then the last few chapters
- 35:27is God responding to Job's concerns.
- 35:31And that's kind of where the song falls as the where were you
- 35:37is God being like, where were you?
- 35:39As I did all these things. And you can hear that lyrics,
- 35:41but it's based off the book of Job.
- 35:43Also my favorite book of the Bible.
- 35:45Yeah, so really good. I know that one.
- 35:48So I do like that one. So my song of the week is
- 35:52actually thanks to the Instagram post.
- 35:59So it was awfully strange to be sitting here.
- 36:03And again, we just started this and all of a sudden your phone
- 36:08comes up and says, Hey, Blues Traveler just mentioned you were
- 36:13like, that's like, what? That's got to be fake.
- 36:17And no, it was not. So that was pretty cool.
- 36:21And, you know, Blues Traveler was still is, But, you know, in
- 36:25college, I, I went and saw them quite a few many times.
- 36:32You know, one of my favorite shows was 94 at Lafayette's down
- 36:37in Oxford. You know, again, it's on the
- 36:41ticket stub picture there. And Sheryl Crow was supposed to
- 36:45open, but she didn't. So Blue Shiver played super long
- 36:47set. You know anything about them?
- 36:50He had just come off of an injury and so he was sitting for
- 36:56a lot of the show. But I remember this song and
- 37:02it's one of my favorite songs. It's alone and I'm going to
- 37:06throw in the song right after it.
- 37:09It's on their first album, Alone, and then just let it roll
- 37:13straight into Sweet Talk and Hippie.
- 37:16So about 14 minutes of total music.
- 37:21And the opening of Alone is the soft guitar and some of the
- 37:28saddest opening lyrics for a song.
- 37:31And you can hear them so clearly, but it says the lyrics
- 37:35are I said I love you. She began to cry.
- 37:39She said she needed a friend. I said I'll try soon.
- 37:43We'd say nothing. Somehow I never wondered why.
- 37:46You see, she left me. She left me.
- 37:49I'm alone. Like, Oh my goodness.
- 37:53Going back to what you were talking about with the Arcade
- 37:56Fire and being left by somebody that it's just so sad but yet so
- 38:03relatable for everybody. Song builds in a nice way.
- 38:08The lyrics stay sad, has a nice electric guitar solo in it, Also
- 38:14has a bass solo in it, but you don't hear all all that often.
- 38:18And then also an acoustic guitar solo right after the bass solo.
- 38:25Yeah, the the song gets soft again has another great lyric to
- 38:31me at the end that says hope can always go up, tears can only
- 38:35come down. Like that's really good.
- 38:39Then it builds back up and has a harmonica solo in it at the end.
- 38:43So 4 solos of different musical instruments, you know, and then
- 38:48it goes straight in a sweet talking hippie.
- 38:50And, you know, I listen to both of them usually when I listen to
- 38:54it. But if you like harmonica and
- 38:57the way it sounds, definitely listen to Sweet Talking Hippie
- 39:01because so much of the song is just John Popper, the lead
- 39:05vocalist and harmonicist. Not sure what the right word is
- 39:10there, just wailing on the harmonic and so good so.
- 39:14Yeah, but yeah. Blues Traveler alone and then
- 39:18bonus sweet talking hippie. Yeah, well again, go follow
- 39:23Blues Traveler and listen to Blues Traveler.
- 39:25We're their biggest fans now. They liked, commented and
- 39:29reposted. Shout out Blues Traveler.
- 39:33But I can attest that I have heard the story of the Sheryl
- 39:37Crow not showing up to open story concert whatever millions
- 39:43of times. So he loves that show.
- 39:45That's one. Of his product, I I don't know
- 39:48how often he does it, if it was every show or if it was, you
- 39:52know, if he still does it because they may be playing
- 39:54bigger arenas. Was, yeah, that was a smaller,
- 39:57small venue. And you know, he wears like a
- 40:01fishing jacket, but it's got all these pockets in it.
- 40:05And each one's got different harmonicas could based on the, I
- 40:09guess the keys and whatnot. Again, shows you how much I know
- 40:12about the musical side of it. But at the end, he just started
- 40:16opening his pockets and just started tossing the harmonicas
- 40:19out in the audience. I unfortunately did not get one
- 40:23of those, but I was like, that's pretty cool.
- 40:26That is pretty cool. So shout out Blue Chandler.
- 40:31Yeah. All right.
- 40:32Are you ready for this next album?
- 40:37So I'm moving. I'm moving this week.
- 40:40You're helping me move, in case you forgot.
- 40:43Yeah. Yeah.
- 40:45So we're about to have a banging time because our album of the
- 40:48week is Never Mind by Nirvana. Yeah.
- 40:53Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about a good album for
- 40:57moving. That is a good album for moving.
- 40:59And this is, you know, Pearl Jam just moved around.
- 41:06It's on our on our poster. I just moved it around because
- 41:10it was my birthday pic that this one just happened to be next.
- 41:13So this is actually nice for me because these are not the I mean
- 41:19like, like anybody needs to know.
- 41:21Like these are two of my most favorite albums.
- 41:24Yeah, so and. Then never mind.
- 41:27Go give, never mind to listen. All the kids my age, they're
- 41:31wearing the little Nirvana smiley faces but never actually
- 41:34listen. I'm kidding.
- 41:36Go listen. To listen to it their songs,
- 41:40other than Smells Like Teen Spirit on the album, not sure.
- 41:44Not sure if everybody's wearing that.
- 41:46Yes, there is one that I'm. Wearing really good songs on
- 41:50there other than Smells like Teen Spirit.
- 41:53Yes, I there is one that I'm warning everyone I'm going to
- 41:57have to fight for my life on it. I'm not going to say which way
- 42:00I'm going to have to, but there there is one that I'm about to
- 42:03have to fight for my life. Cliffhanger, Cliffhanger.
- 42:08So tune back in next week, next week.
- 42:10But yeah, follow us on socials at Barbara Cuts Odd all the
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- 42:26comment like all of them, including on Spotify.
- 42:31Give us a comment. Like to follow Spotify playlist
- 42:35where we're adding our favorites in and so shortly after.
- 42:40I will be adding. We'll be adding adding these
- 42:43songs in, SO as that list grows, you'll get quite the eclectic
- 42:49mix of music. So always never know what you
- 42:53may get on the next song if you shuffle it.
- 42:56So until next time, I am Todd and.
- 43:00I'm Riley and this is another episode of Firework.