Latest / Movie Meltdown / 139: Culture is Not for Everybody
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Do you like to suck poles or not? I said that.
- 0:03Speaker 1: Were you recording that for the show? Do you want
- 0:05Speaker 1: me to work that in somewhere? I'm not sure how
- 0:07Speaker 1: to tie that in. Oh, God.
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- 0:44Speaker 1: It's showtime, folks.
- 0:45Speaker 4: Enjoy the show.
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- 1:29Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Marlena. Oh,
- 1:59Speaker 1: I'm Fred. I'm Greg. And we're back with another episode
- 2:03Speaker 1: of the Caffeinated Movie Geek. Cappuccino, my butt. I still
- 2:06Speaker 1: drink coffee. The last fucking thing you need is another
- 2:10Speaker 1: cup of coffee. It's time for the Caffeinated Movie Geek. Yes,
- 2:16Speaker 1: we're quite fond of the coffee. This is several weeks
- 2:18Speaker 1: in a row, including our road trip episode, which I
- 2:21Speaker 1: thought was kind of fun. Occasionally, I thought that was
- 2:24Speaker 1: a good idea. So if we can find some other
- 2:27Speaker 1: willing and or.
- 2:29Speaker 6: Unknowing coffee shop out there.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Preferably the Knicks cakes and pies. Hey, cake balls is awesome.
- 2:37Speaker 1: To reference... Never mind. Do you like them or not?
- 2:43Speaker 1: Cake balls are awesome. I'm just saying that now.
- 2:46Speaker 2: How about donut balls?
- 2:49Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't go down that road. I'm
- 2:50Speaker 1: still undecided. That pisses me off. Oh, shit. We're being
- 3:01Speaker 1: rude to our guests. Right, guess what? You're right in
- 3:04Speaker 1: the middle of an inside joke. This makes no sense
- 3:07Speaker 1: to anybody, including us. Do you like it or not?
- 3:11Speaker 1: I love those cake balls. So anyway, yeah, that was
- 3:18Speaker 1: a fun little trip out into the world.
- 3:20Speaker 6: So yeah, if we can find some other unsuspecting coffee shop,
- 3:24Speaker 6: we'll bring it on them somewhere.
- 3:25Speaker 1: But now we're back at home base.
- 3:27Speaker 6: We're back coming to you live via digital recording from
- 3:29Speaker 6: Nancy's Bake-O-Ground. So, we're doing our usual coffee shop thing.
- 3:33Speaker 6: And with that, I ask you, Marlena, what blend of
- 3:37Speaker 6: coffee are we.
- 3:37Speaker 1: Drinking this week?
- 3:38Speaker 2: Thundermark!
- 3:41Speaker 1: Is that like your Braveheart delivery?
- 3:43Speaker 2: I was really imagining, you know, like in video games,
- 3:46Speaker 2: like Mortal Kombat or something like that.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Wait, I have to get to going... Now you have
- 3:52Speaker 1: to scream it.
- 3:53Speaker 2: It sounds like lightning and thunder in the background.
- 3:55Speaker 5: And she just ripped out someone's spine and laughed about it.
- 4:01Speaker 2: I need sound effects to that.
- 4:03Speaker 1: FYI. Okay, well, which ones do you want to put
- 4:06Speaker 1: in now? Lightning? Thunder?
- 4:08Speaker 2: Lightning.
- 4:09Speaker 1: All of it. The sound of lightning? All of it.
- 4:13Speaker 1: The sound of lightning.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Thunder, lightning, a herd of cattle, and the sound of
- 4:19Speaker 2: me ripping out someone's spine.
- 4:20Speaker 1: All right. All those. Go for it right now.
- 4:23Speaker 2: No, you have to find them and put them in.
- 4:24Speaker 1: No, I'm saying. You get the audio delivery then.
- 4:26Speaker 2: I already did.
- 4:28Speaker 4: Thunder!
- 4:31Speaker 1: Like that. All right. There we go.
- 4:33Speaker 6: I hope you at home are just overjoyed with that. Alright,
- 4:38Speaker 6: so we're obviously quite hopped up on coffee already, so
- 4:42Speaker 6: this should be an interesting episode. Alright, so we can
- 4:44Speaker 6: head on into this week's geek activities. As we stated
- 4:48Speaker 6: last week, we're sort of breaking them up this time out,
- 4:51Speaker 6: so Greg and Fred already did theirs last week, so
- 4:55Speaker 6: we're going to move into mine and Marlena's this time around.
- 4:59Speaker 1: Mine, it's been a while.
- 5:01Speaker 6: Again, I didn't even have anything on the road trip episode,
- 5:04Speaker 6: so it's good that I've at least watched some things
- 5:06Speaker 6: since then, thankfully.
- 5:08Speaker 1: One of which is actually new.
- 5:10Speaker 6: We went out into the world and saw Final Destination 5,
- 5:14Speaker 6: or as I like to call it, Five Null Destination.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Five Null. Or possibly Five Null Goes West. But, yeah,
- 5:23Speaker 1: did you guys see Final Destination 4?
- 5:26Speaker 2: No, I stopped after the first one.
- 5:28Speaker 1: I stopped after 2. You're probably fine then.
- 5:32Speaker 6: But I was going to say, I mean, we went
- 5:33Speaker 6: out and saw, we did the whole episode around Final Destination,
- 5:36Speaker 6: or THE Final Destination, which they then decided wasn't the
- 5:40Speaker 6: last in the series, which is pretty funny. So, yeah,
- 5:46Speaker 6: we built the whole thing around that one, so we
- 5:48Speaker 6: had our take on that. Basically, Final Destination 5, kind
- 5:53Speaker 6: of like that.
- 5:55Speaker 1: I mean, really... Can you expect anything else?
- 5:58Speaker 2: It's really just new ways for people to accidentally die.
- 6:01Speaker 6: That's what, I mean, that's what it is. And I've
- 6:03Speaker 6: said that, like, with the fourth one. I was like,
- 6:06Speaker 6: is it ridiculous?
- 6:07Speaker 1: Yes. Is it a lot of fun? Yeah, it is actually.
- 6:11Speaker 6: I'm like, especially now that they've totally, like, embraced the
- 6:14Speaker 6: 3D nonsense. I mean, it's just like, although this one,
- 6:17Speaker 6: 3D wasn't as impressive, I have to say. Like, the
- 6:19Speaker 6: opening scene where they do the big.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Crazy thing, the 3D on that was pretty good. The
- 6:23Speaker 1: rest of the movie, eh. I could have not noticed
- 6:26Speaker 1: half the time.
- 6:27Speaker 6: At least in my take on it, I didn't see
- 6:32Speaker 6: it being that big a deal. Where the fourth one,
- 6:34Speaker 6: it was really kind of noticeable. I don't know if
- 6:37Speaker 6: I go completely as to say impressive, but it was
- 6:40Speaker 6: definitely worth it, the fourth one being in 3D. Whereas
- 6:43Speaker 6: this one, it really could have been 2D, and I
- 6:46Speaker 6: don't think you would have lost anything, really.
- 6:47Speaker 1: 2 was the log truck, right? Two was, the opening
- 6:52Speaker 1: scene of two is awesome.
- 6:54Speaker 5: I remember that being just, I was kind of, and
- 6:57Speaker 5: you know, when thinking back on that, that scene, because
- 7:00Speaker 5: that scene really.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Kind of burned into me. Yeah.
- 7:04Speaker 5: I was impressed by it. That probably would have really
- 7:06Speaker 5: worked in 3D, that part of it.
- 7:09Speaker 6: Again, that's possibly the best sequence out of the entire
- 7:13Speaker 6: run of five movies. I mean, there's some fun stuff
- 7:16Speaker 6: in the first one, and they get really ridiculous in
- 7:18Speaker 6: the last few, but yeah, I mean, that first, again,
- 7:22Speaker 6: to be the silly movie that it is. That first
- 7:24Speaker 6: opening segment in the second Final Destination is really well
- 7:28Speaker 6: put together. Like, it is tense and gut-wrenching and gory
- 7:33Speaker 6: and just, yeah, it's really well put together.
- 7:35Speaker 1: That's probably my favorite scene out of all of them.
- 7:39Speaker 1: I did like the barbed wire. The barbed wire is fun.
- 7:44Speaker 1: That might have been the first one. I can't remember.
- 7:46Speaker 1: I thought it.
- 7:47Speaker 5: Was that crazy sequence where they have to rescue somebody
- 7:50Speaker 5: from the water and.
- 7:53Speaker 7: I don't remember.
- 7:53Speaker 1: There's too many. I remember the glass. Jason comes along.
- 7:56Speaker 1: The glass was in the second one, I think. I
- 7:58Speaker 1: don't know. The glass pane was pretty awesome. That was
- 8:02Speaker 1: pretty good.
- 8:03Speaker 6: So, yeah, five, it was fun. I mean, it was
- 8:07Speaker 6: almost worth what I paid. You know, 3D prices is
- 8:10Speaker 6: kind of ridiculous anyways. But it was a fun time.
- 8:13Speaker 6: I enjoyed it.
- 8:14Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was... They do... pull.
- 8:18Speaker 6: Something somewhere along the way that makes it interesting and
- 8:21Speaker 6: I will say that so it is if you're a
- 8:23Speaker 6: fan of the series it's worth seeing almost to see
- 8:27Speaker 6: how they make this one work because it does something
- 8:30Speaker 6: kind of interesting and I wouldn't say I don't know
- 8:33Speaker 6: I'll leave it at that because I don't want to
- 8:34Speaker 6: ruin it because I think it's really interesting the way
- 8:37Speaker 6: that they kind of work it in but it's yeah
- 8:40Speaker 6: it's worth seeing if you like that series if you
- 8:43Speaker 6: don't care about it I don't think this one's going
- 8:45Speaker 6: to win you over. It's not any more impressive than
- 8:49Speaker 6: 4 or any of the.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Rest of them. Again, I think the first one was
- 8:52Speaker 1: more interesting. It was new then. It was a new concept.
- 8:55Speaker 1: It was kind of.
- 8:56Speaker 6: Taking this cool, like, making death a character almost and
- 9:00Speaker 6: working it into something kind of cool, but by the
- 9:03Speaker 6: second one, you already sort of worn out the conventions
- 9:06Speaker 6: of it, so it just seems ridiculous now, which, that's okay,
- 9:10Speaker 6: as long as you know what you're going into. Other
- 9:12Speaker 6: than that, let's see. Last week, I ended up re-watching
- 9:17Speaker 6: some stuff, basically, and stuff that I knew very well,
- 9:20Speaker 6: but probably hadn't sat down and watched in quite a while.
- 9:24Speaker 1: And I'm glad I did.
- 9:26Speaker 6: I guess the big ones, the ones I realized by
- 9:28Speaker 6: the end of the night that I'm really glad I watched,
- 9:30Speaker 6: ended up watching Kill Bill Part 1 and Scream, the original.
- 9:36Speaker 1: And I was just... By the end of the night,
- 9:38Speaker 1: I was like, this is why I love movies. Like,
- 9:41Speaker 1: I'm watching.
- 9:42Speaker 6: both of these and i'm just like these are just
- 9:45Speaker 6: some of the best examples of why i'm a movie
- 9:47Speaker 6: geek midway into kill bill i was just.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Like holy shit like i forgot how awesome so.
- 9:53Speaker 6: Much of that is like there's just as for as
- 9:56Speaker 6: lengthy a movie as it is i'm like there's still
- 9:58Speaker 6: not a moment i don't want to be watching.
- 10:00Speaker 1: You know? I mean, it's still just, it's, oh man,
- 10:03Speaker 1: it's so good. Even the downtime when she goes to
- 10:08Speaker 1: get the sword forged. Yeah. That's one of maybe the
- 10:10Speaker 1: best parts of the movie.
- 10:12Speaker 6: I mean, there's several points where it slows down.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:15Speaker 1: But it's never not interesting. And Tarantino doesn't always have that.
- 10:20Speaker 6: There's been a few times when I will fault him
- 10:22Speaker 6: for things getting slow and not being.
- 10:24Speaker 1: But that's not one of them. Like, that movie is
- 10:27Speaker 1: just so damned hypnotic. Like, you just... Oh, man. And
- 10:33Speaker 1: that last fight, that.
- 10:34Speaker 6: Huge, that last half of the movie fight, it's just amazing.
- 10:39Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. God, it is so much fun. So, yeah,
- 10:42Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there watching that going, this is why
- 10:44Speaker 1: I'm a movie geek.
- 10:45Speaker 6: This movie is exactly why. It's just so much fun
- 10:49Speaker 6: and so entertaining and so well put together. And then
- 10:53Speaker 6: I put in Scream.
- 10:54Speaker 1: And I'm just like, as much as we talked about
- 10:56Speaker 1: the whole series when we watched four, Greg.
- 10:58Speaker 5: Yep.
- 10:59Speaker 6: We ended up talking about how impressive we thought it was.
- 11:01Speaker 6: But again, I hadn't gone back and watched the first
- 11:03Speaker 6: one when I went. I watched, I think, three, or
- 11:06Speaker 6: I watched a couple of the ones before that, right
- 11:08Speaker 6: before I watched four. But I hadn't watched the first
- 11:10Speaker 6: one in years. And everything we said, like, holds true. Like,
- 11:14Speaker 6: it is so well-structured as a movie, as a horror film.
- 11:19Speaker 6: And I forgot just how, again, to use the term
- 11:22Speaker 6: they used a lot in the.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Fourth one, how meta it was. Because.
- 11:27Speaker 6: On the one hand, it's making fun of him, which
- 11:29Speaker 6: I knew that. I remembered it's like, it is a
- 11:31Speaker 6: horror movie, but it's making fun of.
- 11:32Speaker 1: A horror movie.
- 11:32Speaker 6: But at the same time, I forgot how many inside
- 11:36Speaker 6: jokes there are. I mean, like, really cheesy inside jokes. Like,
- 11:41Speaker 6: the janitor's wearing a Freddy sweater and hat, and.
- 11:44Speaker 1: He calls him Fred.
- 11:45Speaker 6: I mean, it's like, or like when she references, like,
- 11:51Speaker 6: the Nightmare on Elm Street movies in the Drew call.
- 11:55Speaker 6: I was just like, there's so many self-referential horror movie jokes.
- 12:00Speaker 6: You know, I'm just like, I forgot just how cheesy
- 12:02Speaker 6: some of that was.
- 12:04Speaker 1: But it is, like I mentioned. And yet it works.
- 12:06Speaker 1: It's not just, to me, one of the best horror movies.
- 12:11Speaker 5: Not because it's It doesn't even need to pay homage
- 12:14Speaker 5: to other horror movies.
- 12:16Speaker 1: It's just that good of a movie. Yeah, it really is.
- 12:18Speaker 1: If you took all of that out, all the references,
- 12:21Speaker 1: it's still that good of a movie.
- 12:22Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not, it doesn't seem like it's depending on
- 12:27Speaker 7: inside jokes or anything in any way. It's just tossing
- 12:31Speaker 7: them off as it goes.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Right. And it is like, again, that first scene is
- 12:36Speaker 1: so amazing. Like, I forgot. I mean, I knew that
- 12:38Speaker 1: part was good.
- 12:39Speaker 6: We even talked about how good that part, but watching
- 12:41Speaker 6: it again, I'm like, it's like its own mini movie.
- 12:44Speaker 1: You can just watch that scene and it's so well done.
- 12:47Speaker 5: And they, you know, when they marketed that, because I
- 12:51Speaker 5: remember seeing that in the theater and they marketed that
- 12:54Speaker 5: Drew Barrymore.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Was in all of the.
- 12:56Speaker 5: The build-up to it, and the press, you know, the
- 13:00Speaker 5: press junket was going around, and she was doing the interviews,
- 13:03Speaker 5: and then.
- 13:06Speaker 1: She's killed in the first scene. And you're like, they
- 13:08Speaker 1: can't do that. She's the star of this movie. Well,
- 13:10Speaker 1: you don't know that she gets killed in that first scene.
- 13:13Speaker 1: You shouldn't be listening to this show. Yeah. And it
- 13:17Speaker 1: doesn't ruin the movie. No. Not really. But she comes
- 13:19Speaker 1: back later. Right. But it just... As a zombie.
- 13:23Speaker 6: Right.
- 13:24Speaker 1: As a zombie. She's the killer. In Stab, in part two. Right.
- 13:28Speaker 5: But it just, I mean, you know, I just remember
- 13:31Speaker 5: sitting there in the theater thinking, what did they just do?
- 13:34Speaker 1: They can't do that.
- 13:35Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.
- 13:36Speaker 1: That's clever. That takes balls.
- 13:38Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 13:38Speaker 2: The worst part after watching that movie is being afraid
- 13:40Speaker 2: to use the restroom in the movie theater.
- 13:44Speaker 3: Right.
- 13:45Speaker 1: That's two. That's two.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Oh, is it two?
- 13:47Speaker 1: And be like through the door or through the wall. Yeah,
- 13:49Speaker 1: that's two. That's a beginning issue.
- 13:51Speaker 7: I think I made this before, but I went to
- 13:52Speaker 7: college with Earl.
- 13:54Speaker 8: Yeah yeah i think you're saying oh yeah oh that
- 13:57Speaker 8: for him like in that phase of his career he
- 13:59Speaker 8: was like in there's something about mary and scream and he's.
- 14:04Speaker 7: Like and i thought you know because to me hearing
- 14:06Speaker 7: about it it's wow he's doing great everything's going great
- 14:10Speaker 7: for him but then i hear him tell his side
- 14:12Speaker 7: of it and it's like you can't get any traction Because,
- 14:16Speaker 7: you know, his name doesn't stick to him. He was
- 14:21Speaker 7: in these great things, and he was happy to be
- 14:23Speaker 7: in them, but it didn't raise his profile, because he's
- 14:27Speaker 7: sort of invisible in everything.
- 14:29Speaker 1: He's just the character.
- 14:31Speaker 7: So, yeah, what sounded to me like everything's just rolling
- 14:34Speaker 7: along great for real, it's like for him it's.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Just a constant high-wire act trying to... I think that's
- 14:41Speaker 1: any character actor at this point.
- 14:43Speaker 6: If you don't have a project to attach to you,
- 14:46Speaker 6: if people don't put you with something, yeah, you just
- 14:49Speaker 6: fall into that. You probably get work, but yeah, you're
- 14:52Speaker 6: not going to be a star.
- 14:54Speaker 1: So that's probably it. So yeah, that was probably the
- 14:59Speaker 1: movie run there. Those three were the big ones I watched.
- 15:02Speaker 6: But I waited to finish out with this segment because
- 15:06Speaker 6: it will tie into yours, Marlena. Because this past weekend,
- 15:10Speaker 6: I went to the state fair in this fair state
- 15:14Speaker 6: of ours.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Commonwealth.
- 15:17Speaker 9: It's still a state.
- 15:20Speaker 1: There's 50 states. If it wasn't a state, there's only people.
- 15:22Speaker 2: But they get mad.
- 15:23Speaker 1: It's not a state.
- 15:24Speaker 5: It's a commonwealth.
- 15:25Speaker 1: That's stupid. Anyway. But they call it the state fair. Yeah,
- 15:29Speaker 1: it's a state fair. So, screw those guys. So, yeah.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Let's see. What, what. What did you eat that was fried?
- 15:37Speaker 6: Oh, that is one of the main reasons I had
- 15:40Speaker 6: to go. This year, definitely tying into the location, this
- 15:45Speaker 6: year they have decided to take it upon themselves to
- 15:48Speaker 6: deep fry derby pie.
- 15:50Speaker 2: I don't know why they haven't always done this.
- 15:52Speaker 1: I don't either. Because, yeah, it's a very specific tie-in and.
- 15:57Speaker 6: It probably seems like it's going to kill you, so
- 16:00Speaker 6: it seems like the perfect thing for the fair.
- 16:02Speaker 2: I just thought of something that's going to make me
- 16:03Speaker 2: a million dollars.
- 16:05Speaker 1: All right, go ahead.
- 16:05Speaker 2: Deep-fried bourbon balls.
- 16:07Speaker 1: They would sign up for that. Do you like the
- 16:09Speaker 1: deep-fried bourbon balls?
- 16:11Speaker 2: I'm undecided.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Damn it. I question that, too. Just say that you
- 16:16Speaker 1: like them and move on. Right.
- 16:19Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a lot of people would line up
- 16:21Speaker 6: for that. I was also, and somebody will steal this now,
- 16:23Speaker 6: but I don't care as long as I get one.
- 16:24Speaker 6: I was like, they started working, like even there, even
- 16:27Speaker 6: at the damn fair, they had a bacon sundae.
- 16:30Speaker 1: I was like, really? Come on. Bacon's everywhere.
- 16:32Speaker 2: It's like the thing.
- 16:33Speaker 6: But it made me think, like, in a not novelty way,
- 16:36Speaker 6: but I was like, why have they not wrapped a
- 16:38Speaker 6: hot dog in bacon, dipped it in batter, and made
- 16:40Speaker 6: a corn dog?
- 16:41Speaker 2: I think they have, actually.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Why am I not eating it? That's my question. Why
- 16:45Speaker 1: is it not in my mouth?
- 16:45Speaker 7: How are you?
- 16:47Speaker 1: Are you undecided on that, Brian? No, I am all
- 16:50Speaker 1: about that corn dog, let me tell you.
- 16:52Speaker 7: Kid I know ate one of the, like the... Donut burgers.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Yeah, they had those this year too.
- 16:57Speaker 6: If you guys at home aren't familiar, yeah, they've taken a,
- 17:00Speaker 6: I think we talked about it last year, they've taken
- 17:01Speaker 6: a hamburger and put it between two, not just donuts,
- 17:05Speaker 6: Krispy Kreme donuts as buns.
- 17:09Speaker 1: I did see at.
- 17:10Speaker 5: One point they had, and they've had it at other fairs,
- 17:12Speaker 5: but they've had deep fried butter.
- 17:14Speaker 2: They had that there.
- 17:16Speaker 1: That's just, that makes me want to gag.
- 17:18Speaker 6: Well, they also, at the same one where I got
- 17:21Speaker 6: the derby pie, they had deep fried Kool-Aid.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Yeah, that confuses me.
- 17:26Speaker 5: I don't, yeah, I was just, I don't know if
- 17:27Speaker 5: they deep fry the powder.
- 17:29Speaker 6: They use that, you know, funnel cake batter, I think,
- 17:33Speaker 6: don't they? See, my idea, and I really hope they
- 17:36Speaker 6: did this, it didn't look like they were, but I
- 17:38Speaker 6: was really hoping they just took the packet... The envelope
- 17:41Speaker 6: and dipped it in batter and then fried it.
- 17:45Speaker 1: And just handed it to you.
- 17:46Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry. I feel like deep fried Kool-Aid
- 17:50Speaker 2: is very racist. Is it just me? Is that racist?
- 17:54Speaker 1: I think that's just you. You think it's like deep
- 17:56Speaker 1: fried watermelon or something?
- 17:57Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, that's extremely racist.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Hey, everybody can be unhealthy. Not just one race.
- 18:03Speaker 2: That's true.
- 18:04Speaker 1: We can all die early. Great Kool-Aid if it was racist. Yeah,
- 18:07Speaker 1: that's true. Great drink. Let's get that shit straight.
- 18:10Speaker 2: It probably was.
- 18:11Speaker 9: I don't know.
- 18:12Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed like a weird idea. I stayed away
- 18:15Speaker 1: from the Kool-Aid. Yeah, the derby pie was just confusing.
- 18:19Speaker 6: It wasn't good? Well, it was confusing. That was my
- 18:22Speaker 6: take on it. I took a bite, and the whole
- 18:24Speaker 6: time I was just like, I'm.
- 18:27Speaker 2: Eating it.
- 18:29Speaker 6: I mean, because they also drizzle some sort of raspberry
- 18:32Speaker 6: topping on it. Well, that's the thing. The batter and
- 18:36Speaker 6: the raspberry kind of work together. So you get that
- 18:38Speaker 6: first layer of it that kind of works. And then
- 18:41Speaker 6: you get to the derby pie, and it just kind
- 18:43Speaker 6: of tastes like derby pie. So it's like you're almost
- 18:45Speaker 6: breaking it down each time trying to process these way
- 18:48Speaker 6: too many flavors crammed into one thing.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like they don't have very adequate shifts.
- 18:54Speaker 2: I mean, like, if... If you're making something, like, for instance,
- 18:58Speaker 2: yesterday I was making jambalaya, and it's like, well, we
- 19:01Speaker 2: need a side dish to go with this. So my
- 19:03Speaker 2: boyfriend made, like, collard greens or greens of some sort.
- 19:07Speaker 2: You know, that kind of makes sense. You know, like,
- 19:10Speaker 2: southern food with southern food, that makes sense. If we served, like,
- 19:14Speaker 2: mashed potatoes, that would have been weird.
- 19:16Speaker 1: No, I would totally eat some mashed potatoes. I can
- 19:19Speaker 1: eat mashed potatoes anytime.
- 19:21Speaker 7: What do mashed potatoes not go with?
- 19:24Speaker 2: Maybe that's a bad example.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Can we deep fry mashed potatoes?
- 19:27Speaker 6: Holy shit, where is that?
- 19:30Speaker 1: That's a tater tot. Damn it.
- 19:34Speaker 6: It's a different kind of batter, though.
- 19:36Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Actually, a french fry is
- 19:40Speaker 2: more like a mashed potato. It's mushy on the inside.
- 19:43Speaker 7: It's like when I make New Orleans-style dirty rice, and
- 19:47Speaker 7: my wife eats it with corn chips.
- 19:49Speaker 1: It's like you're not respecting the culture. Exactly. You're mixing
- 19:54Speaker 1: up cultures here. Wait a minute.
- 19:55Speaker 2: You don't serve curry with a burrito?
- 19:57Speaker 1: Yeah. You can. A curry burrito would be awesome. It's groundbreaking.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I'd do fried curry burrito and sense the genre.
- 20:07Speaker 2: The point is, certain flavors do not mix together. You
- 20:11Speaker 2: don't want to eat chocolate pudding and corn in one bite.
- 20:15Speaker 1: Can you deep fry them?
- 20:16Speaker 2: Yes, yes you can.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Deep fried pudding! Holy shit, we're onto something.
- 20:21Speaker 7: Deep fried toothpaste and deep fried orange juice.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Oh, that's trouble. That's the two flavors that don't go together. Yeah,
- 20:29Speaker 1: you don't mess with that.
- 20:31Speaker 7: But then some flavors have that reciprocity agreement, like they
- 20:34Speaker 7: make each flavor more Well, like orange and chocolate. You know,
- 20:41Speaker 7: they bounce off each other. But another one that does
- 20:44Speaker 7: that really nice is like almonds and bananas have some
- 20:51Speaker 7: sort of weird... No, wait, it's pistachios and bananas.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, you take a bite of banana, it.
- 20:59Speaker 7: Tastes like a banana. The next bite, it forgets it's
- 21:02Speaker 7: a banana. You don't even notice. By the time you're
- 21:04Speaker 7: at the end of the banana, you don't know what
- 21:06Speaker 7: you're doing. You've forgotten what you're... But, you eat a
- 21:11Speaker 7: couple of pistachios, it tastes like a banana again.
- 21:14Speaker 1: It cleans your palate. It does something, yeah. You need
- 21:19Speaker 1: to test this theory out at home and see how
- 21:21Speaker 1: that goes. Let us know.
- 21:23Speaker 7: Yeah, that one, I discovered that in my lab. The
- 21:29Speaker 7: chocolate orange thing, everybody knows about that. That's in the literature.
- 21:33Speaker 7: But the banana passaccio.
- 21:35Speaker 1: That's a newfound discovery. Yeah. We're on the forefront of
- 21:38Speaker 1: food technology.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Amazing.
- 21:40Speaker 6: So let's see other than that yeah just wandered around
- 21:44Speaker 6: looked at the twinkling lights which was pretty entertaining.
- 21:46Speaker 2: By the way i went during the day that was
- 21:48Speaker 2: one thing that i did regret that we didn't stay
- 21:51Speaker 2: there till night time we went there around noon.
- 21:53Speaker 6: Well we went and it was the last day of
- 21:56Speaker 6: well it was the last weekend it was going on
- 21:58Speaker 6: and i guess everyone in the world decided they needed
- 22:01Speaker 6: to go that night i don't know but it was
- 22:03Speaker 6: like an hour of sitting in traffic not moving to
- 22:07Speaker 6: get in and then still didn't get in because it
- 22:10Speaker 6: wasn't moving gave up and went and like parked a
- 22:12Speaker 6: half a mile away and walked trying to get in
- 22:15Speaker 6: and still stood.
- 22:15Speaker 1: In line in the walk-in line I've never seen it
- 22:18Speaker 1: like that.
- 22:19Speaker 9: That was ridiculous.
- 22:20Speaker 1: I would have gone home. Yeah, but I wanted deep
- 22:22Speaker 1: fried derby pie. I was already there. I'm like, screw it, whatever.
- 22:26Speaker 5: I would have bought a fry daddy and a derby
- 22:28Speaker 5: pie and said we're going to do this show.
- 22:30Speaker 6: But then I would have missed out because I had
- 22:31Speaker 6: also heard tale that somewhere along the midway there was
- 22:35Speaker 6: a sideshow.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Oh, So this will be our... We can hand off
- 22:39Speaker 1: here in the middle here.
- 22:40Speaker 6: But we did get to go to the sideshow, and
- 22:42Speaker 6: I decided to wait and work that into this episode
- 22:45Speaker 6: because we saw a lot of two-headed things, which we'll
- 22:49Speaker 6: come back around later. So, yeah, what was your take
- 22:53Speaker 6: on the sideshow, Marlena?
- 22:55Speaker 2: Well, you know... Previous, they didn't have it last year
- 22:57Speaker 2: or the year before, but a few years ago, you know,
- 22:59Speaker 2: they had the supermodel with her head cut off, but
- 23:02Speaker 2: still living. And it was like a guy in scrubs.
- 23:04Speaker 1: That was awesome.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Not doing anything.
- 23:07Speaker 1: That was the best scam.
- 23:09Speaker 6: That was like an old school sideshow because you got
- 23:12Speaker 6: scammed and it was awesome.
- 23:14Speaker 2: And it was $ 2.
- 23:17Speaker 1: It was worth getting scammed.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:19Speaker 1: So it wasn't anything?
- 23:21Speaker 6: It was a guy. Yeah, it was. First of all,
- 23:24Speaker 6: it was supposed to be a girl.
- 23:26Speaker 1: It was a guy. He had hairy arms. It was
- 23:28Speaker 1: a guy. Do you want a new sign?
- 23:30Speaker 6: And then it was some sort of mirrored thing where
- 23:33Speaker 6: you couldn't see his head. And it was very obvious
- 23:36Speaker 6: what it was. But I was just like, this is
- 23:38Speaker 6: an old school version of, you know, scamming you out
- 23:41Speaker 6: of two bucks. Which is, to me, equally as impressive.
- 23:44Speaker 6: If you can find a good way to scam people,
- 23:46Speaker 6: that's what the sideshow is built around.
- 23:48Speaker 1: And I love that stuff.
- 23:49Speaker 2: I expected that for this one.
- 23:51Speaker 1: Yeah, the PT Bonham. Yeah, I mean, that is what
- 23:54Speaker 1: he did. That is the way that he operated.
- 23:56Speaker 2: I appreciate a clever circus dupe. As much as I do.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Like a real sideshow.
- 24:02Speaker 1: It's like a magic show.
- 24:03Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 24:04Speaker 6: Like the gorilla. You saw the gorilla one that year,
- 24:06Speaker 6: didn't you? The one where the gorilla escapes and goes crazy.
- 24:09Speaker 6: And it's like a robot. And it plays the same
- 24:13Speaker 6: recorded message over and over. And the gorilla is loose.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Get out.
- 24:18Speaker 6: It's just like a mechanical thing in a gorilla suit.
- 24:21Speaker 6: coming at you it looks terrible it looks like it
- 24:24Speaker 6: was made in the 50s at best and is barely
- 24:27Speaker 6: functioning now and that kind of makes it even more awesome.
- 24:30Speaker 2: That's funny you expect that I was really surprised with
- 24:34Speaker 2: this one it was Legit, for the most part. There
- 24:37Speaker 2: was some taxidermy, which is to be expected, but.
- 24:39Speaker 6: But again, most of that was still... A lot of
- 24:42Speaker 6: the stuff... Well, there was also a lot of formaldehyde items.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Formaldehyde. Pickled things in jars.
- 24:47Speaker 1: But those were all real, too. Yeah.
- 24:48Speaker 6: Like, just about all those looked... Every once in a while,
- 24:50Speaker 6: there would be, like, a normal thing. Yeah.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Like, a cobra. Okay, that's just a snake. There's nothing
- 24:56Speaker 1: wrong with that one.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Those exist in the world.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure. It's not a big deal.
- 24:59Speaker 6: But there were ones that were, like, they were malformed
- 25:03Speaker 6: along the way. There was an elephant with one eye and, like,
- 25:06Speaker 6: a pig with two heads.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Well, actually, it wasn't an elephant with one eye. It
- 25:09Speaker 2: was a pig with an elongated snout.
- 25:12Speaker 6: But there was one that also had the, like, the
- 25:14Speaker 6: eye had, like, separated. And then there were several two-headed pigs.
- 25:18Speaker 2: My favorite was the.
- 25:21Speaker 2: The miniature horse. It was just a horse fetus. Of
- 25:24Speaker 2: course it's a miniature horse. It hasn't been born yet.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I do like the way they build these
- 25:29Speaker 1: things sometimes.
- 25:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Or, like, how about the... What was the dwarf? The
- 25:34Speaker 1: remains of the dwarf? It was just like a... It
- 25:36Speaker 1: was a skeleton.
- 25:37Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 25:37Speaker 1: It was a normal-sized skeleton.
- 25:39Speaker 2: No, it was like skull, wasn't it?
- 25:40Speaker 1: It didn't even... That skull looked normal-sized. I was just like...
- 25:43Speaker 1: And the rest wasn't even put together. It was just
- 25:45Speaker 1: bones and, like, a normal-sized human skull. I was just like,
- 25:48Speaker 1: where is the... dwarf. This looks like a regular skull
- 25:52Speaker 1: you bought at the medical supply store.
- 25:55Speaker 6: So, again, some of the bad angle almost makes it
- 25:58Speaker 6: more awesome for me, but then they had real stuff,
- 26:01Speaker 6: like the living animals.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:03Speaker 2: They had a living cow that had like a malformed, like,
- 26:07Speaker 2: undeveloped fetus, like, legs and stuff coming.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Out of its side. The back half of it was
- 26:13Speaker 1: coming out of its back, basically.
- 26:15Speaker 6: And it was alive and walking around and was behaving
- 26:18Speaker 6: like a normal cow.
- 26:19Speaker 1: It was kind of cool.
- 26:20Speaker 2: And then there was the four or five six-legged sheep.
- 26:23Speaker 2: I mean, was it four?
- 26:24Speaker 1: He was laying down. I couldn't see his extra leg.
- 26:26Speaker 1: He didn't want to get up.
- 26:27Speaker 2: He had like five or six legs.
- 26:29Speaker 1: He wouldn't get up. He's just tired. He has an
- 26:31Speaker 1: extra leg.
- 26:32Speaker 7: Hilarious.
- 26:32Speaker 6: But the guy taking care of them was actually really cool.
- 26:35Speaker 6: He went over and was petting them, and he was
- 26:36Speaker 6: talking about how long they'd been in the show. They
- 26:39Speaker 6: actually seemed like they took good care of them, which
- 26:41Speaker 6: was also really cool. They talked about the fact that
- 26:43Speaker 6: they don't normally go on this run. They actually have
- 26:46Speaker 6: a farm somewhere. Maybe this is all bullshit story, but...
- 26:50Speaker 6: It also seems like the guys sort of cared about
- 26:52Speaker 6: the animals.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Which was nice. Fine, we're taking your puppy to the farm!
- 26:55Speaker 10: The farm!
- 26:56Speaker 1: To run and play and romp and be free! So, yeah,
- 26:59Speaker 1: maybe it's that same farm, but... Yeah, I don't know.
- 27:03Speaker 1: I was thoroughly entertained with it.
- 27:05Speaker 2: I was very impressed. The chupacabra, it was just a
- 27:09Speaker 2: deer butt with googly eyes.
- 27:11Speaker 10: Nice.
- 27:12Speaker 1: I pointed that out as we were up there. I
- 27:13Speaker 1: was like, do you notice anything about the chupacabra over there?
- 27:17Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 27:18Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, I saw it. Shut up.
- 27:22Speaker 7: I saw a story somewhere where they found some sort
- 27:25Speaker 7: of chupacabra-like animal and it turned out to be like
- 27:29Speaker 7: A regular furry animal that had a disease.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Where all the fur was gone. So it looked... And
- 27:34Speaker 1: nobody could recognize it. It was just this freaky looking... Yeah,
- 27:36Speaker 1: it was like a fox or something like that that
- 27:38Speaker 1: had lost all its hair. With some sort of disease
- 27:41Speaker 1: or mange or something. Yeah, so that... I don't know.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Was there any other crazy stuff?
- 27:47Speaker 2: There was a two-headed turtle. There was a two-headed turtle.
- 27:49Speaker 1: That was cool. And it was alive.
- 27:52Speaker 2: It was swimming.
- 27:53Speaker 6: And that was the one I actually said this last night.
- 27:55Speaker 6: I was sitting there, and I was watching it swim,
- 27:57Speaker 6: and I was just like, yeah, there's your sibling for you.
- 28:00Speaker 6: How much would it suck to be joined at the
- 28:02Speaker 6: hip with your sibling? Everywhere this one tried to swim,
- 28:05Speaker 6: the other one would swim in the opposite fucking direction.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And they were just fighting back and forth
- 28:10Speaker 1: every moment of the day.
- 28:11Speaker 2: When I saw the turtle, one of the turtle's heads
- 28:13Speaker 2: was underwater, and it was, like, fighting.
- 28:15Speaker 1: It was holding him down. The one underwater, it.
- 28:17Speaker 2: Wanted the other one to be underwater.
- 28:18Speaker 1: And then he started going, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there was the turtle, it was, like,
- 28:24Speaker 2: conjoined shells. It was, like, a Siamese turtle.
- 28:26Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that was the one that was swimming
- 28:28Speaker 6: that was, like, trying to go opposite directions at the
- 28:30Speaker 6: same time.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Yeah. It was funny.
- 28:32Speaker 6: It just made me, yeah, I was like, yep, there's
- 28:34Speaker 6: your sibling. Always causing you trouble.
- 28:36Speaker 7: My mom claims that we're related to the Siamese twins
- 28:42Speaker 7: for whom Siamese twins are named, that they were actually Siamese.
- 28:47Speaker 7: The name comes from this one set of twins. And
- 28:50Speaker 7: this is why I had to investigate the John Carpenter story.
- 28:54Speaker 1: Another one of these stories. My mom tells these stories.
- 28:57Speaker 7: And that's one of them. Or related to the original
- 29:00Speaker 7: Siamese twins and Daniel Boone.
- 29:03Speaker 1: I am related to Pocahontas. Yeah? If you want to
- 29:07Speaker 1: believe what your family tells you growing up. Yeah. I'm
- 29:11Speaker 1: related to shit.
- 29:13Speaker 7: Oh, this is a movie one. I'm related to the
- 29:16Speaker 7: Miller brothers that rode with Jesse James. And I know
- 29:20Speaker 7: that one's true because I looked up pictures of them.
- 29:22Speaker 7: And Cleo Miller looks exactly like my uncle. Just exactly
- 29:27Speaker 7: like him.
- 29:28Speaker 1: That's weird.
- 29:29Speaker 7: Yeah, but in movies, they're portrayed as like the biggest douchebags.
- 29:35Speaker 1: They're like cowardly idiots. Like, one of them.
- 29:40Speaker 7: Was shot by Jesse James and the other was shot
- 29:42Speaker 7: by the Pinkertons. Nobody liked these guys.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Something to be proud of.
- 29:46Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Oh, Lord. So, I don't know. I think that was
- 29:51Speaker 1: most of mine. Yeah, watching The Freaks.
- 29:54Speaker 6: Actually, the sad part is I just looked at the
- 29:57Speaker 6: fixtures around there, and I was so thrilled. They had
- 30:00Speaker 6: that whole cart where all the formaldehyde jars were on
- 30:03Speaker 6: that was painted up and said, like, Sideshow and Circus Freaks.
- 30:06Speaker 1: I was just like, I need the.
- 30:09Speaker 6: Decor of this place.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Did it look like your dining room? That's what I
- 30:14Speaker 1: was going to say.
- 30:14Speaker 6: I mean, the interior of my house is now decorated
- 30:17Speaker 6: in a light version of that, mostly because I can't
- 30:20Speaker 6: afford the super high-end stuff. But, yeah, I'm sitting there
- 30:22Speaker 6: looking around like I'm shopping for furniture, basically. I'm like, ooh,
- 30:27Speaker 6: I need that table to put my two-headed turtle on.
- 30:30Speaker 2: You know, you should actually, as part of the decor,
- 30:33Speaker 2: get jars and fill it with, like, You know those
- 30:35Speaker 2: grow animals?
- 30:37Speaker 1: No, I want to be legit. Sea monkeys.
- 30:42Speaker 6: I've got a Fiji mermaid dam and I want the
- 30:44Speaker 6: real stuff. I'm looking to invest in new sideshow attractions.
- 30:51Speaker 6: I just don't have the money at this point, but
- 30:53Speaker 6: I'm working on it.
- 30:53Speaker 1: You need to get an egress. I've got the sign.
- 30:57Speaker 1: I've got a sign.
- 30:58Speaker 6: And if you give me $ 10, I'll show you the egress.
- 31:01Speaker 6: I'll tell you all about the egress. You can make
- 31:03Speaker 6: use of the egress. But I have a sign pointing
- 31:07Speaker 6: you to my egress.
- 31:08Speaker 2: Funny story. I think this is why I initially... liked
- 31:13Speaker 2: him in the first place but my boyfriend the first
- 31:14Speaker 2: night we met he was like i'm really into doing
- 31:17Speaker 2: like old-time circus strongman stuff like bending nails and just
- 31:20Speaker 2: bending shit in general he's really obsessed with bending.
- 31:23Speaker 6: Stuff and i mean he must be so proud you
- 31:31Speaker 6: told that like you know he likes to butt things
- 31:33Speaker 6: with his head he must be so proud.
- 31:36Speaker 2: I mean i really am proud like He's going to
- 31:39Speaker 2: be on America's Got Talent.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:41Speaker 1: I like to bend things.
- 31:43Speaker 2: He likes to bend things. And, I mean, I just
- 31:46Speaker 2: love that so much. I know that's just, like, a
- 31:48Speaker 2: silly thing, but.
- 31:49Speaker 1: The most endearing part. Yeah.
- 31:51Speaker 2: And he, like, he has these Indian clubs. You know, like,
- 31:54Speaker 2: he orders his equipment from this website. It's actually called oldtimestrongman.com.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Nice. They should sponsor us now.
- 32:03Speaker 2: And he has, like, Indian clubs and all this weird
- 32:06Speaker 2: stuff that no one has worked out with since, like, 1949.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Does he have a medicine ball?
- 32:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:12Speaker 1: That's so wrong.
- 32:17Speaker 2: I talked to Jay about this, and he said it
- 32:18Speaker 2: would need to be cast, but for Christmas, I want
- 32:20Speaker 2: to get him one of those globe weights. I think
- 32:22Speaker 2: that would be so cool.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Wow. That would be awesome.
- 32:25Speaker 5: Do we need to get him one of the old
- 32:27Speaker 5: Strongman one-piece leotards?
- 32:31Speaker 1: One strap.
- 32:32Speaker 2: We are actually talking about that today, and that's going
- 32:34Speaker 2: to be our Halloween costume. I'm going to be like
- 32:36Speaker 2: the elephant costume. Rider lady, you know, like with the
- 32:39Speaker 2: little feathers.
- 32:40Speaker 1: Like Reese Witherspoon? Like Reese Witherspoon.
- 32:43Speaker 2: It had my name in that movie, which is why
- 32:44Speaker 2: I was so passionate.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Well, there you go.
- 32:46Speaker 2: That was actually the movie we went and saw on
- 32:49Speaker 2: our first date. It may not have been that wonderful,
- 32:52Speaker 2: but it's very important and special to me.
- 32:57Speaker 1: I can get on board with that.
- 32:58Speaker 6: Yeah. So I guess we can parlay that into the
- 33:02Speaker 6: rest of your geek week. So what else have you
- 33:04Speaker 6: got going aside from the fair? Or if you have
- 33:06Speaker 6: other non-freak show related fair stories.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Probably, but I've watched a ton of movies. I'm not
- 33:13Speaker 2: going to talk about all of them, but I will
- 33:15Speaker 2: touch base on most of them at least. The first
- 33:19Speaker 2: movie I probably watched was Johnny Suede. I'd never seen it.
- 33:23Speaker 1: You just like his hair.
- 33:25Speaker 2: His hair was amazing. Um, But my friend Jessica and I,
- 33:29Speaker 2: we watched it, and it was just like the two
- 33:32Speaker 2: of us watching girl movies. I don't know. It could
- 33:35Speaker 2: have been like He's Just Not That Into You or something,
- 33:37Speaker 2: but we chose Johnny Suede and said, actually, we wanted
- 33:40Speaker 2: to watch He's Just Not That Into You, but it
- 33:41Speaker 2: wasn't on Netflix Instant Watch.
- 33:43Speaker 6: No lie.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Okay, it's not that good. That's all you. No, it's not.
- 33:47Speaker 2: But I feel ashamed for admitting that on air, but whatever.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Actually, I have a little respect now for the guy
- 33:55Speaker 1: who wrote the book.
- 33:56Speaker 6: Yeah. He's actually, he's like a comic and he wrote
- 34:00Speaker 6: that with like his friends. And again, it was just
- 34:02Speaker 6: sort of like a thing that they did. They were
- 34:03Speaker 6: just like, oh, okay, this might, you know, make some money.
- 34:05Speaker 6: I mean, he did it for very practical reasons. And
- 34:08Speaker 6: then they sold the script and he was just like,
- 34:11Speaker 6: I really don't care what you do. He's the first
- 34:13Speaker 6: one to go, God, this looks terrible.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:16Speaker 6: I just, once I heard his take on how much
- 34:17Speaker 6: the movie looks like a normal watered down, cheesy, romantic comedy.
- 34:21Speaker 1: And he was like, I don't really care. They paid me.
- 34:24Speaker 1: I was like, that's kind of awesome.
- 34:26Speaker 2: I mean, it was a, it was a romantic comedy,
- 34:28Speaker 2: but it's, it's funny. I love the girl in it
- 34:30Speaker 2: that plays Gigi. I can't remember her name, but she
- 34:33Speaker 2: was in like Mona Lisa smile. And she was Johnny
- 34:36Speaker 2: Cash's wife.
- 34:37Speaker 5: And yeah, I kind of know who's a button, but
- 34:41Speaker 5: I can't remember her name.
- 34:42Speaker 2: And she's just, her character is hilarious. She's like a
- 34:45Speaker 2: psycho in that movie and it's adorable. But, um, anyway,
- 34:48Speaker 2: back to Johnny's weight. Um, It's strange, honestly. It reminds me,
- 34:53Speaker 2: there was like a Generation X type movies. I think
- 34:58Speaker 2: they were just trying to get a feel for like
- 35:01Speaker 2: independent movies.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:02Speaker 2: They never made any fucking sense.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Not really, no.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Like the Doom Generation.
- 35:06Speaker 1: They're just trying to be cool. It's just like, they're just.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Trying to be weird and out there and you're just like,
- 35:10Speaker 2: this may not be cool.
- 35:11Speaker 6: Fucking sense we're different because we're indie yeah we don't
- 35:15Speaker 6: have to make sense.
- 35:16Speaker 2: That's that's what i felt it wasn't it had its
- 35:18Speaker 2: hilarious moments that we could relate to but i mean
- 35:21Speaker 2: overall the movie it just made no sense but brad
- 35:23Speaker 2: pitt was in his underwear most of the time yeah so.
- 35:25Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what sold it at the
- 35:27Speaker 1: time his crazy hair and underwear.
- 35:29Speaker 2: Yeah and nick cave was in.
- 35:31Speaker 6: It i barely yeah i i kind of remember being
- 35:34Speaker 6: on cable like in the 90s and sort of seeing
- 35:37Speaker 6: it but not even enough to make sense of it
- 35:39Speaker 6: either so i.
- 35:40Speaker 1: Don't even remember what plot they were trying to go for.
- 35:44Speaker 2: It was just one of those weird Generation X movies
- 35:46Speaker 2: that really have no plot.
- 35:47Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 35:48Speaker 2: Like, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
- 35:51Speaker 2: It's almost like, I never bothered to look it up,
- 35:54Speaker 2: but I wonder if the person who directed Doom Generation
- 35:56Speaker 2: is the same person that directed Johnny Suede, because they
- 35:59Speaker 2: feel very similar in their fucking nonsensical bullshit way.
- 36:03Speaker 6: While you continue on, I'll double check. Okay.
- 36:07Speaker 2: I also watched Bunny and the Bull. It was directed
- 36:12Speaker 2: by the same people that directed Mighty Boosh. And it was,
- 36:17Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious and awesome. It was interesting.
- 36:22Speaker 2: It's like this guy who had gone crazy. He's kind
- 36:25Speaker 2: of reliving a road trip that he and his best
- 36:28Speaker 2: friend had taken like a year before. And it's like surreal.
- 36:32Speaker 2: And I mean, he's like imagining it. So the scenery
- 36:35Speaker 2: isn't real scenery. It's like paper cut you know like
- 36:38Speaker 2: made out of paper and.
- 36:39Speaker 6: Like it can be cool if you can find the
- 36:41Speaker 6: right way to work with that it.
- 36:43Speaker 2: Worked really well and i thought it was a great
- 36:44Speaker 2: movie i mean it ended very sadly i mean it
- 36:47Speaker 2: had a happy ending but i mean the point of
- 36:49Speaker 2: the movie was very sad once you get to the
- 36:51Speaker 2: end of it but it was funny and like engaging
- 36:53Speaker 2: and i really enjoyed it um i also watched i
- 36:56Speaker 2: have a list because i watched so many damn things
- 36:59Speaker 2: i watched young frankenstein last weekend awesome i've never seen
- 37:02Speaker 2: it before somehow i mean i started watching it and
- 37:06Speaker 2: falling asleep Not that it was bad, I was just
- 37:08Speaker 2: really tired. But it was hilarious. Like you were saying
- 37:13Speaker 2: once before in a previous episode... Mel Brooks really was
- 37:19Speaker 2: a comical genius.
- 37:21Speaker 1: In that era, he's phenomenal.
- 37:24Speaker 2: It's so subtle, too. You almost have to watch the
- 37:26Speaker 2: movie over and over to really get everything.
- 37:29Speaker 1: If you're not paying attention, it almost plays like an
- 37:32Speaker 1: old horror movie. He really knew.
- 37:34Speaker 6: Again, you look at all of his stuff at that era.
- 37:37Speaker 6: He knew his old horror movies when he did that.
- 37:39Speaker 6: You look at High Anxiety. He knew those Hitchcock movies.
- 37:42Speaker 6: He wasn't just half-assed throwing together some skits. He knew
- 37:47Speaker 6: those movies and he was so subtle about the humor,
- 37:50Speaker 6: especially like Blazing Saddles.
- 37:51Speaker 1: It's like you watch that and the jokes aren't jokes.
- 37:55Speaker 6: They're just sort of references to the genre and like
- 37:59Speaker 6: playing on the conventions of Westerns.
- 38:01Speaker 1: And he's just so well versed in film, especially at
- 38:04Speaker 1: that point. He got kind of off his, you know.
- 38:07Speaker 1: Half later on, but at that point, he was, yeah, genius.
- 38:11Speaker 2: I think the difference between those movies and the difference between, like,
- 38:14Speaker 2: what we have, I mean, it's not even equivalent because
- 38:17Speaker 2: it doesn't compare, but, you know, like, what they try
- 38:19Speaker 2: to do with scary movies, the humor of that is
- 38:22Speaker 2: only based on your knowledge of pop culture. You know,
- 38:26Speaker 2: it's like scenes where they're ripping off other movies. If
- 38:28Speaker 2: you've never seen that movie, it's not funny to you,
- 38:30Speaker 2: and it doesn't make any sense. This was, like, if
- 38:33Speaker 2: you've never seen... Bride of Frankenstein, if you've never seen
- 38:36Speaker 2: an old horror movie, it's funny independently of anything else.
- 38:40Speaker 1: It's original in the way that it's funny.
- 38:42Speaker 6: It's still playing on the genre, but it's not ripping
- 38:47Speaker 6: off individual scenes.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Even if you've never seen Frankenstein, it still plays.
- 38:52Speaker 5: Plus the characters in it, the actors that they use
- 38:56Speaker 5: in it, are all great actors.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Gene Wilder is amazing. Gilda Radner is amazing.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Marty... Feldman.
- 39:04Speaker 6: Feldman.
- 39:05Speaker 1: Peter Boyle. Peter Boyle.
- 39:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they're all just like.
- 39:08Speaker 1: What a cat. Terry Garr. Terry Garr. She's not really...
- 39:11Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny. She got more boring as her
- 39:13Speaker 1: career went on, but you go back and watch her
- 39:15Speaker 1: in that, she's really good.
- 39:16Speaker 2: She was so funny.
- 39:17Speaker 1: She's really good. She really had something to her. Yeah.
- 39:21Speaker 2: It was awesome. I enjoyed it. I feel very guilty
- 39:25Speaker 2: for falling asleep the first time I watched it.
- 39:27Speaker 1: A couple.
- 39:30Speaker 2: I probably should admit this. A couple of days ago,
- 39:33Speaker 2: my best friend Jessica and I, we watched Rest Stop.
- 39:38Speaker 2: First few minutes of it, we realized this was bad.
- 39:40Speaker 2: So we conjured, we, okay, you know, it's Sunday. There's
- 39:45Speaker 2: like a discount movie theater there's like a group of
- 39:48Speaker 2: teenagers you know that get hauled in on a bus
- 39:52Speaker 2: they're very loud and boisterous about the event taking place
- 39:55Speaker 2: in the movie we decided to act like those teenagers
- 39:59Speaker 2: so every five seconds we're like oh hell bitch hell
- 40:02Speaker 2: but you're gonna die you best get out of there
- 40:04Speaker 2: you're being stupid when you're in a theater no we're
- 40:08Speaker 2: in her um.
- 40:10Speaker 6: I'm not sure which is worse, actually, but at least
- 40:12Speaker 6: in her living room, you're not annoying anyone else.
- 40:14Speaker 2: It made the movie so fucking funny.
- 40:18Speaker 1: It's like obnoxious mysteries. Yeah, you made a Misty 3K-ed
- 40:22Speaker 1: your own movie.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. And Joey Lawrence was in the movie,
- 40:26Speaker 2: and we're like, oh, hey, that's Joey Lawrence.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Whoa. All bets are off now.
- 40:33Speaker 6: Joey Lawrence is in this movie.
- 40:37Speaker 2: It was a horrible movie. But, I mean, we made
- 40:40Speaker 2: it fun. I also watched the movie Peacock.
- 40:45Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm familiar with this.
- 40:46Speaker 3: You are.
- 40:47Speaker 2: It has Cillian Murphy in it.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Oh, is that the one where he.
- 40:52Speaker 6: That trailer looked awesome.
- 40:54Speaker 1: Was it good? It was a good movie. Spoiler alert.
- 40:56Speaker 2: Here's my problem with the movie. And actually, it's not
- 40:59Speaker 2: like you have to figure it out. It's the premise
- 41:01Speaker 2: of the movie.
- 41:01Speaker 1: If you watch the trailer, it shows you what's going on.
- 41:04Speaker 2: He has split personality disorder and he is his own wife.
- 41:09Speaker 1: And is in drag.
- 41:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 41:10Speaker 1: In a small town in, what, the 50s? 60s.
- 41:13Speaker 6: 60s, when, you know, even now it wouldn't be taken
- 41:18Speaker 6: well by most people, but.
- 41:19Speaker 1: In the 60s, yeah.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Cillian Murphy has played a woman in a lot of roles,
- 41:23Speaker 2: or a cross-dresser, or what have you. He's a very
- 41:28Speaker 2: beautiful man, and he makes an equally beautiful woman. But
- 41:31Speaker 2: Cillian Murphy as a man, Cillian Murphy as a woman,
- 41:34Speaker 2: are not that different looking. Why can't these fucking people
- 41:39Speaker 2: figure it out?
- 41:39Speaker 1: The neighbors are stupid, is what you're saying?
- 41:41Speaker 2: Yes, yes. I guess, honestly, people just, maybe it was
- 41:45Speaker 2: the time. And, I mean, he does look a little
- 41:48Speaker 2: bit different. I mean, he made a beautiful woman in
- 41:50Speaker 2: that movie. And he was kind of, like, rough and
- 41:52Speaker 2: greasy and, like, nervous all the time. So, but I
- 41:56Speaker 2: guess people just, it was never even... Maybe people noticed
- 41:59Speaker 2: that they favored each other, but they never put those
- 42:02Speaker 2: two things together.
- 42:03Speaker 6: I mean, if they were supposed to be family, you know,
- 42:05Speaker 6: if it was his sister he lived with.
- 42:07Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying.
- 42:08Speaker 6: If it was his sister, it would make sense. But
- 42:10Speaker 6: the fact that, why would you marry a girl who
- 42:12Speaker 6: looks just like you? That's creepy.
- 42:14Speaker 1: They say people start to look like parents. They do,
- 42:16Speaker 1: but he's still pretty young.
- 42:18Speaker 2: And here's the thing, especially for the time period. People
- 42:21Speaker 2: tend to ignore details about things that they can't process
- 42:25Speaker 2: or understand. So that's the only thing I can think of.
- 42:27Speaker 2: But I'm watching this movie thinking, like, why can't these
- 42:30Speaker 2: people figure out that they look exactly the same?
- 42:32Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
- 42:33Speaker 7: I had a neighbor who was, like, transgendered, and I
- 42:36Speaker 7: thought it was two.
- 42:37Speaker 1: People living there.
- 42:38Speaker 7: Well, actually, there were three people living there, but I
- 42:40Speaker 7: thought Robbie was, like, a young woman and maybe her mom. Because, like,
- 42:48Speaker 7: on days when he, she was, like, done up and, like,
- 42:53Speaker 7: shaved and.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Stuff, Robbie looked good. He was, like, really kind of cute.
- 43:01Speaker 7: And then other days, I would see, like, this platinum
- 43:06Speaker 7: blonde haggard looking woman sitting out there, and I thought
- 43:09Speaker 7: it was the mom. They look alike, but something's different.
- 43:15Speaker 7: And then, you know, I come to find out that, well,
- 43:17Speaker 7: and then there were two guys living there. One looked
- 43:20Speaker 7: a lot like the kid in hair. What was his name?
- 43:23Speaker 1: Savage.
- 43:24Speaker 7: John Savage.
- 43:25Speaker 1: It's been so long, yeah. Yeah.
- 43:27Speaker 7: He was like the kid in hair. He looked almost
- 43:30Speaker 7: exactly like him except for the nipple rings he had.
- 43:34Speaker 7: He was always out gardening, and he had the nipple rings.
- 43:36Speaker 7: And the other one was like a cop.
- 43:38Speaker 10: Hmm.
- 43:40Speaker 7: And had sort of an old-fashioned mustache. So he's the
- 43:44Speaker 7: cop from The Village People?
- 43:45Speaker 1: Sort of.
- 43:47Speaker 2: Sort of.
- 43:48Speaker 1: It was all the same person.
- 43:49Speaker 7: And then somebody told me he was in home incarceration.
- 43:52Speaker 7: He was the head of home incarceration. But then I
- 43:54Speaker 7: swear I saw him sometimes working in a Kroger deli, too.
- 43:58Speaker 7: But they were really sweet people. When my daughter was born,
- 44:03Speaker 7: and I always felt bad because they took such pride
- 44:06Speaker 7: in their yard, their little garden out front. Because, you know,
- 44:10Speaker 7: the kid from Hair was always out there with his
- 44:13Speaker 7: nipple rings doing the gardening. But then my daughter was born,
- 44:18Speaker 7: and I didn't even mow or weed or anything.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Because we were just trying to take care of a baby.
- 44:25Speaker 1: It's like, holy crap, we have a baby. And sleep
- 44:29Speaker 1: when we could.
- 44:30Speaker 7: And we'd try to trade off, but both of.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Us would get up. And they came over and did
- 44:36Speaker 1: our yard for us.
- 44:37Speaker 2: Oh, shit.
- 44:38Speaker 7: And Robbie left, like, this little stuffed gorilla and a
- 44:42Speaker 7: note on her doorstep.
- 44:43Speaker 1: And Robbie was so sweet. And I heard this back story.
- 44:46Speaker 7: Robbie was, like, this local kid, a runaway, when he
- 44:50Speaker 7: was 14, that this family adopted. And he was being
- 44:53Speaker 7: transgendered and had just, like, awesome tits.
- 44:58Speaker 10: Really.
- 44:59Speaker 2: Nice.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Because, you know, she would.
- 45:01Speaker 7: Wear, like, this, like, thin halter.
- 45:04Speaker 1: We'd all show it off at that point.
- 45:06Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 45:07Speaker 7: And they still let Robbie perform in, like, the drag shows,
- 45:10Speaker 7: which usually, by the time you're transgender, no, you can't compete.
- 45:14Speaker 6: There's rules to this show.
- 45:16Speaker 1: You're cheating.
- 45:17Speaker 7: You're a woman at that point. You can't imitate a woman.
- 45:20Speaker 7: But everybody loved Robbie, and so Robbie, and.
- 45:23Speaker 1: This was like a local person. That's the name of
- 45:25Speaker 1: the movie. Everybody loved Robbie. Everybody loved Robbie. On Lifetime
- 45:28Speaker 1: this weekend.
- 45:30Speaker 7: But so in a way, that experience, I can kind
- 45:32Speaker 7: of understand, like, You know, it's ridiculous how Superman, you know,
- 45:36Speaker 7: he has the hair flocked and the glasses and people
- 45:40Speaker 7: don't know. But in a way, there's kind of a
- 45:42Speaker 7: lot of truth in that. I'm not sure exactly what
- 45:45Speaker 7: it is.
- 45:46Speaker 5: It's that people are so self-absorbed that they don't pay attention.
- 45:49Speaker 7: Yeah, people don't see things in a way.
- 45:54Speaker 1: And I wish I knew how to.
- 45:55Speaker 7: Exploit that for material gain, but it's true. I guess
- 45:59Speaker 7: the sideshow, you know.
- 46:00Speaker 1: There you go. There's the tie. There's somebody without a head.
- 46:04Speaker 7: Wait, I think I see a head now.
- 46:06Speaker 1: No, there's no head there. Just give me $ 2. Yeah,
- 46:09Speaker 1: they paid anyway. He's got hair on his arms. Maybe
- 46:12Speaker 1: that was Robbie sitting there. Could be. I didn't say
- 46:16Speaker 1: she looked bad.
- 46:16Speaker 7: Yeah, yesterday it was a headless woman, and today... I'm
- 46:20Speaker 7: not sure about that. It looked like Robin Williams' arms.
- 46:25Speaker 2: It did.
- 46:26Speaker 1: It did. Maybe it was Robin Williams.
- 46:29Speaker 2: It was. What else is it?
- 46:30Speaker 1: Maybe that's right. Special guest appearance by Robin Williams. You know,
- 46:34Speaker 1: Robin was really sweet. Those people were like awesome neighbors.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Very cool.
- 46:40Speaker 7: But you know how bad you feel when your neighbors
- 46:42Speaker 7: come over and do your yard?
- 46:44Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 46:45Speaker 1: Just make them feel like a slack ass.
- 46:47Speaker 6: Oh.
- 46:48Speaker 1: It's awful.
- 46:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:49Speaker 6: Oh, my.
- 46:51Speaker 2: I also watched Tangled, which I don't know why.
- 46:54Speaker 6: I almost wanted to. I saw it and just went
- 46:57Speaker 6: to the interview. I kind of want to just because
- 46:59Speaker 6: I've heard.
- 46:59Speaker 1: It's all right. It is.
- 47:01Speaker 2: It is very good. The reason I wanted to watch
- 47:03Speaker 2: it is because a few months ago, I saw a
- 47:05Speaker 2: few minutes of it at the gym, and it was, like,
- 47:09Speaker 2: it seemed really good. And I watched the whole thing,
- 47:11Speaker 2: and it was. You know, it's like when I was little, like,
- 47:14Speaker 2: I was... Kids tend to, like, attach themselves to one
- 47:17Speaker 2: movie that they have to watch over and over and over.
- 47:20Speaker 2: My movie was Beauty and the Beast. You know, like,
- 47:23Speaker 2: I still love that movie, but I was obsessed. I
- 47:26Speaker 2: had to watch it before I went to school and
- 47:28Speaker 2: when I came home and before I.
- 47:29Speaker 1: Went to bed.
- 47:31Speaker 2: For, like, three or four months I was like this. But,
- 47:35Speaker 2: you know, Disney movies since, like, Aladdin have kind of,
- 47:39Speaker 2: you know, they got out of the whole fairytale cartoon thing.
- 47:43Speaker 2: They've started, like, different branches. Pocahontas isn't really a fairy tale.
- 47:48Speaker 1: It's just kind of like a historical.
- 47:51Speaker 2: And inaccurate historical story.
- 47:54Speaker 1: Yeah, wait until you see Pocahontas 2. Not Disney. Flit
- 47:59Speaker 1: was a real character. Shut up.
- 48:02Speaker 2: You know, this, this is back to the fairytale thing,
- 48:04Speaker 2: which I was really happy about. You know, I missed
- 48:06Speaker 2: that about Disney. That was what Disney was about for me.
- 48:09Speaker 2: You know, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, even The
- 48:12Speaker 2: Little Mermaid, you know, all these things are fairytales.
- 48:14Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 48:14Speaker 2: And I was like, I really enjoyed it and I'm
- 48:17Speaker 2: glad that they did another fairytale movie.
- 48:19Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure, is that John Lasseter that did Tangled
- 48:22Speaker 5: as well? From Pixar? I, I, I thought they brought
- 48:27Speaker 5: somebody from Pixar in to help. I think that's the
- 48:30Speaker 5: X factor. I mean, everything that they do is solid.
- 48:35Speaker 5: I'd have to look that up.
- 48:36Speaker 1: No, I want to see that.
- 48:39Speaker 5: Yeah, it's on Instant View, or actually we have it. Yeah,
- 48:43Speaker 5: my kids, the music's good in it. It's not Steal
- 48:47Speaker 5: Your Thunder, but the bar scene... with all.
- 48:49Speaker 1: Of the crooks.
- 48:50Speaker 2: It reminded me of the scene in Beauty and the Beast,
- 48:52Speaker 2: you know, where they're all singing in the bar. Not
- 48:54Speaker 2: that it copied off of it by any means, but like.
- 48:57Speaker 1: Just reminiscent at that point.
- 48:59Speaker 5: And these are all despicable characters, but they turn out,
- 49:03Speaker 5: you see all of their soft side of who they
- 49:05Speaker 5: really are.
- 49:06Speaker 1: It was a.
- 49:07Speaker 2: Really cute movie. It was definitely above and beyond what
- 49:10Speaker 2: most children's movies are nowadays.
- 49:12Speaker 1: I love a good children's movie.
- 49:14Speaker 7: I do like some When my kids, you know, I
- 49:17Speaker 7: used to see them a lot because my kids would watch.
- 49:20Speaker 1: And then I'd talk to other people and say, oh, yeah,
- 49:23Speaker 1: it's like that. They're just like, I don't really watch
- 49:25Speaker 1: kid movies. I'm like, why not? I don't have kids.
- 49:28Speaker 1: So what? That's all I watch. What are you talking about?
- 49:31Speaker 7: Like, for, you know, some years, like, the kids' movies
- 49:33Speaker 7: were the best movies out.
- 49:35Speaker 1: Well, once Pixar came around, it's true. Yeah. It's... They
- 49:39Speaker 1: are better than most movies out there.
- 49:42Speaker 2: Last Thursday, I went to see Cowboys and Aliens. That
- 49:47Speaker 2: got really bad reviews. I heard really bad, yeah. But, like,
- 49:51Speaker 2: I thought it was enjoyable. It wasn't amazing. It didn't
- 49:53Speaker 2: change my life.
- 49:54Speaker 1: Or my views on it. I mean, it is called
- 49:56Speaker 1: Cowboys and Aliens. I know.
- 49:58Speaker 2: But, you know, it's like it wasn't even as cheesy
- 50:00Speaker 2: as the title lended it to me.
- 50:02Speaker 1: And it's based on a comic series. So, I mean,
- 50:04Speaker 1: you should. I kind of know what you're getting yourself into.
- 50:06Speaker 2: I love Daniel Craig in it.
- 50:08Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.
- 50:09Speaker 7: Well, I just, I like him in almost everything he does.
- 50:12Speaker 2: He's awesome.
- 50:13Speaker 7: Best Bond ever.
- 50:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 50:16Speaker 1: He's the only Bond I can rely on. I totally
- 50:18Speaker 1: believe him as that guy. Right, right.
- 50:21Speaker 5: It's beyond just shtick. It's extremely cool, and yeah, he
- 50:26Speaker 5: could be this, you know.
- 50:27Speaker 2: I mean, this could really be what he does.
- 50:29Speaker 6: They've taken a different approach, though, to his benefit, I think,
- 50:34Speaker 6: because it his Bond came along post-Bourne. You know, the
- 50:38Speaker 6: Bourne series totally, like, killed the old cheesy James Bond.
- 50:43Speaker 6: You can't have that anymore.
- 50:44Speaker 1: There are better Bonds than Bond ever was.
- 50:46Speaker 6: Once you've seen, yeah, once Jason Bourne came around, you're
- 50:48Speaker 6: just like, what the fuck are we watching this old
- 50:50Speaker 6: weirdo in a tuxedo, you know? There's... throwing out one
- 50:54Speaker 6: liners you know and and do using goofy gadgets and
- 50:57Speaker 6: i mean it it seemed as stupid as it probably
- 51:00Speaker 6: really is and i just went back and watched one
- 51:02Speaker 6: recently and it really is cheesy i mean the old
- 51:05Speaker 6: ones are oh yeah and i loved them but i
- 51:08Speaker 6: loved them for that as a kid and they worked
- 51:10Speaker 6: as a kid but when i watch them now i'm
- 51:12Speaker 6: just like this is like a joke yeah So, yeah,
- 51:15Speaker 6: when the new one came around, they took that serious approach,
- 51:19Speaker 6: and it's trying to do it more like a real
- 51:21Speaker 6: action movie, yeah.
- 51:22Speaker 2: It's like Dragnet and James Bond. It's like, what's the difference?
- 51:25Speaker 2: So both equally, it's, like, ridiculous.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Pretty much, yeah.
- 51:28Speaker 2: But, I mean, I thought Cowboys and Aliens, it wasn't,
- 51:31Speaker 2: like I said, it didn't, like, move me spiritually or anything. But,
- 51:36Speaker 2: I mean, it was enjoyable. It was an enjoyable hour
- 51:38Speaker 2: and a half or whatever, however long it was.
- 51:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 51:42Speaker 5: I think the problem with it, and I've not seen it,
- 51:44Speaker 5: but I've heard a lot of people pen it, is
- 51:46Speaker 5: that everybody who you think should be a major player
- 51:51Speaker 5: in Hollywood produced it or wrote on it or directed
- 51:54Speaker 5: on it or did something was connected to it.
- 51:56Speaker 1: And it wasn't like, you know, Ron Howard.
- 51:59Speaker 5: Was involved and Spielberg was involved and when you've got
- 52:04Speaker 5: maybe it's too many cooks.
- 52:05Speaker 1: Involved or something like that but you think well if.
- 52:08Speaker 5: Everybody's putting their name on this it's got to be
- 52:10Speaker 5: good and it's got cowboys and it's got aliens.
- 52:12Speaker 6: Jon Favreau it should have well I mean Iron Man's
- 52:17Speaker 6: a great movie so it's like don't look at Iron
- 52:19Speaker 6: Man 2 but when you look at Iron Man he
- 52:21Speaker 6: knew how to structure an action movie and a fun
- 52:24Speaker 6: movie and yeah maybe everybody was expecting too much out
- 52:28Speaker 6: of it yeah.
- 52:29Speaker 1: Right I'm expecting too much out of it.
- 52:32Speaker 6: Right.
- 52:33Speaker 5: Well, then you will have a good, we'll just tell
- 52:35Speaker 5: you it sucks, and then it'll be great.
- 52:38Speaker 1: It'll balance it out, and then you'll like it for
- 52:39Speaker 1: what it is.
- 52:41Speaker 2: Sam Rockwell was in it, too, and he wasn't like,
- 52:43Speaker 2: he wasn't like the typical Sam Rockwell. He was like
- 52:45Speaker 2: this passive bartender, you know, it was kind of interesting.
- 52:50Speaker 2: He played it really well, I thought.
- 52:51Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 52:52Speaker 2: Um, I also watched Hobo with a Shotgun. Oh, Lord.
- 52:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that, too. We've heard not so good
- 52:57Speaker 1: reviews on this show. What was your take?
- 53:00Speaker 2: Um, I'm with Misty in the loving Rutger Hauer thing.
- 53:05Speaker 1: She did not love him in that movie because she
- 53:07Speaker 1: was not thrilled with that movie. He was the bright
- 53:09Speaker 1: spot in it. Yeah, he was. That was damn sure.
- 53:11Speaker 6: He's the bright spot in just about anything.
- 53:13Speaker 2: I enjoyed it because it was so absurd and so campy.
- 53:17Speaker 2: It was depressing. I don't like violence towards children even
- 53:23Speaker 2: in movies. There was a lot of that. It was
- 53:25Speaker 2: just like.
- 53:27Speaker 2: Ostentatious displays of, like, gore and stuff like that, which
- 53:31Speaker 2: is what they were going for. So I think it
- 53:33Speaker 2: was exactly what they wanted it to be. It was, like,
- 53:36Speaker 2: entertaining and it was good. It's definitely a cult movie.
- 53:39Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 53:39Speaker 1: I thought it tried so hard. But they were trying more. Yeah.
- 53:43Speaker 1: You know, it, you know, it's like, hey, let's make
- 53:45Speaker 1: this bad and I'm going to compare it to Black Dynamite.
- 53:50Speaker 9: Okay.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Black Dynamite was perfectly well created.
- 53:55Speaker 5: You could, you know, it, funny, it was smart, it
- 53:58Speaker 5: knew what it was doing, it knew what it was
- 53:59Speaker 5: talking about, it had violence in the right place, it
- 54:01Speaker 5: had absurdities that, when they said it, it was funny
- 54:05Speaker 5: as hell.
- 54:05Speaker 1: Black Dynamite's amazing.
- 54:07Speaker 5: And I think that's, I mean, that's what they were
- 54:09Speaker 5: going for.
- 54:10Speaker 1: They were going like, ha ha, look.
- 54:12Speaker 5: How good we are, but it just fell short over
- 54:16Speaker 5: and over and over, and it tried to really push
- 54:18Speaker 5: that grotesque violence thing, and.
- 54:21Speaker 1: It just seems, to me, it seems stupid.
- 54:24Speaker 5: And I was, I was, I was, I was probably
- 54:27Speaker 5: expecting way too much out of it. And I was like,
- 54:30Speaker 5: all right, I'm going to sit down and watch it tonight.
- 54:32Speaker 5: And almost from the first scene, I was mad.
- 54:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 54:36Speaker 2: I mean, I liked it. I didn't love it. It
- 54:39Speaker 2: was definitely gratuitous. But, you know, honestly, like, the bad guy,
- 54:44Speaker 2: I think I would have loved this movie, and it's
- 54:47Speaker 2: past Dennis Hopper's time, but I feel like the bad
- 54:50Speaker 2: guy was a role that was written for Dennis Hopper.
- 54:52Speaker 1: It might have been. Hopper was the Drake that.
- 54:55Speaker 2: It would have made it a good movie. I just
- 54:59Speaker 2: didn't buy that guy.
- 55:00Speaker 7: I remember somebody saying years ago there was a period
- 55:02Speaker 7: of time when all the bad guys were Europeans or
- 55:05Speaker 7: Dennis Hopper.
- 55:07Speaker 1: That was a really good observation. That's the 90s action
- 55:12Speaker 1: movie through line.
- 55:15Speaker 7: Europeans or Dennis Hopper.
- 55:17Speaker 6: Speed.
- 55:17Speaker 5: Speed.
- 55:22Speaker 10: I don't know.
- 55:23Speaker 2: It was gratuitous, and, like, it made me feel a
- 55:25Speaker 2: little sick to my stomach and not so, like, it, yeah,
- 55:30Speaker 2: made me feel, like, sad about the world. But, I mean,
- 55:34Speaker 2: I thought it was, I thought it was, like, a cheesy,
- 55:36Speaker 2: campy movie. It was fun, you know?
- 55:38Speaker 1: Yeah, it might have just been my, I don't know.
- 55:41Speaker 1: And I've never, I've never.
- 55:42Speaker 2: Seen Black Dynamite, so I can't, like.
- 55:45Speaker 7: It depends on which one you see. There are a
- 55:47Speaker 7: lot of cats going around with that name.
- 55:50Speaker 1: Oh, black down, mate.
- 55:57Speaker 5: He goes, I told you suckers not to call me
- 56:01Speaker 5: when I'm doing my kung fu.
- 56:02Speaker 1: God damn, that movie's awesome. I mean, I've never seen it,
- 56:06Speaker 1: so I can't compare it to the... Again, you would
- 56:08Speaker 1: probably really like it, because it's... I mean, I'm sure
- 56:11Speaker 1: seeing that... If you like Hobo with a Shotgun, it
- 56:14Speaker 1: will be your favorite movie. Again, it goes right back
- 56:15Speaker 1: to the Mel Brooks thing I said earlier.
- 56:17Speaker 6: The reason that movie works, the reason Black Dynamite works
- 56:20Speaker 6: so well.
- 56:20Speaker 1: They know their material. They're not.
- 56:23Speaker 6: ripping off specific scenes from other blaxploitation they know blaxploitation
- 56:28Speaker 6: genre and they're so good at making fun of it
- 56:32Speaker 6: but doing it like knowingly like tastefully almost they're not
- 56:36Speaker 6: making fun of it like look how stupid this stuff
- 56:39Speaker 6: is they're looking you know they're doing it they're still
- 56:41Speaker 6: making a movie they're like lovingly you know it's like
- 56:44Speaker 6: we kind of like this whole genre so we're not
- 56:47Speaker 6: going to go that far we're not going to talk
- 56:49Speaker 6: about how terrible it is because we grew up loving
- 56:51Speaker 6: these movies so There's still, like, a love that they
- 56:54Speaker 6: had for those type of movies that comes through in
- 56:56Speaker 6: Black Dynamite, and yet they still are hilarious about making
- 56:59Speaker 6: fun of it. Right.
- 57:01Speaker 2: I think if I had seen Black Dynamite, it might
- 57:03Speaker 2: have altered my view on that a little bit.
- 57:06Speaker 1: It sets a bar.
- 57:07Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 57:08Speaker 1: It sets a standard that... Because it's bad, but it's
- 57:11Speaker 1: genius bad. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
- 57:14Speaker 2: And I saved the best for last. I've never watched
- 57:17Speaker 2: this before, and no one has directed me to watch it, because...
- 57:21Speaker 2: I mean, I guess no one just went on about
- 57:22Speaker 2: the awesomeness of this movie. I watched Harold and Maude
- 57:24Speaker 2: for the first time.
- 57:25Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
- 57:26Speaker 2: The title doesn't sound like something you must watch. Like,
- 57:30Speaker 2: fucking watch Harold and Maude if you haven't watched it. But, like,
- 57:33Speaker 2: I mean, the title Harold and Maude, like, I just...
- 57:36Speaker 2: When I think Maude, I think, like, Bea Arthur. So
- 57:39Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not that excited.
- 57:40Speaker 1: When I think Harold, I think Bea Arthur. It's like
- 57:42Speaker 1: all roads lead to Bea Arthur.
- 57:44Speaker 2: I just think of Bea Arthur.
- 57:46Speaker 1: It's an awkward old name. It's like, what is Bea
- 57:49Speaker 1: Arthur versus Bea Arthur? What is this movie? Battle of
- 57:53Speaker 1: the Bea Arthur. If Bea Arthur were still around, we
- 57:55Speaker 1: could remake Harold and Maude with two Bea Arthurs. It's
- 57:58Speaker 1: the thing with two heads of Bea Arthur. I don't
- 58:01Speaker 1: know what to expect here. Old lady death match. Yay!
- 58:06Speaker 2: Bea Arthur versus Betty White.
- 58:07Speaker 1: Ooh, Betty White would kick her ass.
- 58:09Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 58:09Speaker 2: Bea Arthur's just fucking stout.
- 58:10Speaker 6: She did seem like, yeah, she was old school.
- 58:12Speaker 5: I think Bea Arthur would be good at bending things.
- 58:17Speaker 6: She used to work out with that giant dumbbell. She
- 58:20Speaker 6: has one of those leopard leotards. She juggles medicine balls.
- 58:24Speaker 1: She is. And she likes it. She likes it. She
- 58:29Speaker 1: is hardcore. In the movie Meltdown, we make fun of
- 58:32Speaker 1: dead people. Sorry, Bea Arthur. Jay thought you were hot,
- 58:36Speaker 1: if that helps. Ew.
- 58:37Speaker 2: Are you joking?
- 58:39Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
- 58:40Speaker 6: No.
- 58:41Speaker 1: Anyway.
- 58:41Speaker 2: Are you ever confused with, like, Rue McClanahan?
- 58:43Speaker 1: We won't know.
- 58:44Speaker 5: McClanahan had it going on back in the 80s.
- 58:48Speaker 1: That's all you.
- 58:49Speaker 2: I mean, honestly.
- 58:50Speaker 1: Well, it's about that willingness. I guess. Oh, she was willing.
- 58:55Speaker 1: I guess.
- 58:56Speaker 2: I don't remember what we were watching the other day,
- 58:58Speaker 2: but Bobby argued with me that this person, this old
- 59:01Speaker 2: lady in a show, was on Golden Girls. And I
- 59:03Speaker 2: was like, no, she fucking was it. Estelle Getty, Rue McClanahan,
- 59:08Speaker 2: Bea Arthur, and Betty White.
- 59:09Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 59:10Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my God, I just named
- 59:12Speaker 2: the Golden Girls by their actual names.
- 59:15Speaker 1: Go hang your head in shame. I don't think any
- 59:17Speaker 1: of us could have. Yeah, I could have.
- 59:19Speaker 5: Can I trump you all? In high school, there was
- 59:23Speaker 5: a two-part episode. Of the Golden Girls when I was
- 59:26Speaker 5: in high school. I think it was my sophomore year.
- 59:28Speaker 5: It might have been towards the end of Golden Girls.
- 59:31Speaker 9: Oh, God.
- 59:32Speaker 5: A buddy of mine said, hey, you want to go
- 59:34Speaker 5: out and see a movie? I forget what movie was
- 59:35Speaker 5: coming out. And he goes, I was like, you know,
- 59:37Speaker 5: I think I'm going to stay home with my parents
- 59:39Speaker 5: and watch Golden Girls.
- 59:41Speaker 7: You know, Golden Girls is a good show, though.
- 59:43Speaker 1: It was a good show, but, you.
- 59:45Speaker 5: Know, a high school, 16-year-old high school kid should not.
- 59:49Speaker 1: Stay home with his parents. 16-year-old high school boy.
- 59:52Speaker 5: Yeah, eat into the casserole and watch the fucking Golden Girls.
- 59:56Speaker 1: Did you knit an afghan? Hey, it worked out for you.
- 59:59Speaker 2: You got married and had kids and stuff.
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: You're not all right.
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: If my wife knew about that, she probably would not
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: have married me.
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: I can't blame her.
- 1:00:14Speaker 7: I remember one night back when Louisville Mocho was a thing.
- 1:00:18Speaker 7: The biggest internet badass on there was this girl named
- 1:00:21Speaker 7: Akasha who lived out of town. But one night she
- 1:00:25Speaker 7: admitted she watched the Golden Girls every day.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Every day.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: I think my friend Ben dated her.
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: Oh, really? Yeah.
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: What was her name on there? Akasha. I wonder if
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: her real name was Natasha.
- 1:00:35Speaker 7: She did these, like, wicked photo shops, and she could
- 1:00:39Speaker 7: do them in minutes. In minutes, she could get into
- 1:00:43Speaker 7: somebody's profile on there, get their photos, and put them
- 1:00:47Speaker 7: somewhere doing something credibly.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: Wow. I guess one of her own was kind of nice.
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: It was Bob Ross painting her.
- 1:00:56Speaker 7: That was really cute. The world of the internet. Yeah,
- 1:01:01Speaker 7: that was a good show. And, you know, little kids
- 1:01:04Speaker 7: like it, everybody.
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: I could never get into it. I hate to ruin
- 1:01:08Speaker 6: your high school fun days, but I don't know. Then
- 1:01:11Speaker 6: and now, I just, I like Betty White, but I just, yeah,
- 1:01:14Speaker 6: everybody loves it. It was just old ladies. I think
- 1:01:17Speaker 6: that was just what turned it off for me. As
- 1:01:19Speaker 6: much as I'm into hot old ladies, I just, something
- 1:01:22Speaker 6: about that just.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: Did not click.
- 1:01:23Speaker 7: It wasn't even on when I was in high school.
- 1:01:25Speaker 7: That song was around then.
- 1:01:27Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: That song was always been around. I remember that.
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: I remember when I was little singing a song, but
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: I had no idea what a confet on was.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: And most people still don't know. A confet.
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: Where they say confedon. And I'm like, grandma, what's a confedon?
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: She was like, I don't know.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: Leave me alone, kid. Trying to make my tuna casserole.
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: That was my mom. No one in my family were confedon.
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: Are you joking?
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: I'm trying to order my pizza.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Get out of my face.
- 1:01:57Speaker 5: You went to Saturday evening last, had tuna casserole, and
- 1:02:01Speaker 5: watched the Golden Girls.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: You know how to party. I went to bed by 10.30. Voluntarily.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: I've got to get up early tomorrow.
- 1:02:12Speaker 7: You know, but the truth of like no matter how
- 1:02:14Speaker 7: wild you were in high school, and I was, still
- 1:02:19Speaker 7: 90% of your time.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: Was like stupid little crap like that or waiting.
- 1:02:24Speaker 10: Right.
- 1:02:24Speaker 7: Just, you know, because you're horrible at making plans with friends,
- 1:02:28Speaker 7: so you spend like half your life just standing around waiting.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: And then, you know... Those are the teenage years.
- 1:02:36Speaker 7: And then 12 minutes of something wild that you'll talk
- 1:02:39Speaker 7: about for the.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: Rest of your life. That's true.
- 1:02:41Speaker 7: But then, the rest of it, then you're back to
- 1:02:43Speaker 7: watching the Golden Girls.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: Party all the time.
- 1:02:49Speaker 7: And you've got to do a report on the agriculture
- 1:02:53Speaker 7: of Botswana or something, and you're up all night.
- 1:03:00Speaker 6: To follow up on your first entry... The director of
- 1:03:03Speaker 6: Johnny Suede is Tom DiCilio. That was his first movie.
- 1:03:08Speaker 6: He is super indie of the 90s. Actually, his second
- 1:03:12Speaker 6: one I really like and sort of have it tentatively
- 1:03:15Speaker 6: thrown out there for one of us to watch because
- 1:03:17Speaker 6: I bought it not that long ago. I don't know
- 1:03:19Speaker 6: if you've ever seen Living in Oblivion. I remember we
- 1:03:22Speaker 6: saw it back in the day at the theater. It's
- 1:03:25Speaker 6: very indie. It's freaking trying to be artsy indie. But
- 1:03:28Speaker 6: there's parts of it I really liked. He followed that
- 1:03:31Speaker 6: up with Box of Moonlight, which I remember the trailer.
- 1:03:34Speaker 6: It's a super, John Turturro, super indie movie. So yeah,
- 1:03:37Speaker 6: this guy was going for indie. And then some, a
- 1:03:40Speaker 6: few years later, does an episode of Law and Order
- 1:03:44Speaker 6: Special Victims.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Everybody does that. He changed, yeah. Then he's doing Monk series.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: So yeah, he's, yeah. I'm going to tell you how
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: much I hate Monk. I hate Monk. All right.
- 1:03:55Speaker 5: Because I watch, I'm addicted to How I Met Your Mother.
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: The only time I can watch it is the 11.30
- 1:04:02Speaker 5: showing on the WB channel here or the UPN channel,
- 1:04:08Speaker 5: whatever it is around here.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: Syndicated channel.
- 1:04:12Speaker 5: And damn it, if something happens with the schedule or
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: if there's been a game on or something, they'll not
- 1:04:18Speaker 5: show How I Met Your Mother and they'll put Monk on.
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: And I won't find out. I'm like, you know, I've
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: got to get up at 6. But I'm like, you know,
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: I really want to watch How I Met Your Mother tonight.
- 1:04:28Speaker 5: And so I stay up, and I'm all the way there,
- 1:04:31Speaker 5: which I don't mind because I'm staying up watching My
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: Name is Earl. And then, bam, 11.30 or whatever, Funkin'
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: Monk comes on, and I get shalooed by that asshole.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: You get shalooed. I get shalooed. So, anyway. All right.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: I hate Monk. Go watch some Monk. It's awesome. Anyway,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: sorry to derail it. That was derailed anyway. I was talking.
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: About Harold and Maude, and then we talked about the
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: Golden Globes.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: Now we need to make Harold and Monk. God help us.
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: Anyway, back to Harold and Maude, though.
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: It was, what, 1971? It was early. He was like.
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: The most goth kid I've ever known.
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: He was so pre-goth. And I brought some pretty goth kids.
- 1:05:14Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: It was amazing.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure.
- 1:05:17Speaker 7: Oh, that series of suicide attempts. I haven't seen that movie, like,
- 1:05:21Speaker 7: in a hundred years.
- 1:05:24Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, and I hope this never happens to me,
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: that I never fall in love with, like, a 19-year-old
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: boy when I'm 80. I'm pretty sure I'm maud when
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: I'm older.
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: Yeah. You've seen your future, and you will be maud.
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: She's living in, like, a boxcar or some type of, like,
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: train of some sort. She doesn't have, she's just weird
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: and eccentric and like, I'm pretty sure that's me when
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: I'm older.
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: You just gotta get your ride. You gotta get that
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: bike going.
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: Well, she would just steal cars.
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: That'd be me.
- 1:05:53Speaker 5: I feel like, I feel like that was even shown
- 1:05:56Speaker 5: to me like, by, In school or something.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: I watched it when I was young.
- 1:06:01Speaker 6: Again, we had cable and I watched whatever the hell
- 1:06:03Speaker 6: I wanted.
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: So I watched it when I was a kid and
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: I thought Harold was kind of cool. He had that
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: souped up hearse. That was fucking awesome. I thought Harold
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: was awesome.
- 1:06:14Speaker 5: That just seems like something like in grade school we
- 1:06:17Speaker 5: watched The Electric Grandma and then the next year we
- 1:06:22Speaker 5: watched Harold and Maude.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: It all fit together. Did you ever see The Electric Grandma?
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: It's on Twilight Zone, isn't it?
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: Isn't it based on asking the body electric?
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking of the episode as Twilight Zone. No,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: this is about an hour. I don't know. I don't
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: know if it is. All I remember was we saw
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: it on Reel to Reel in school about.
- 1:06:40Speaker 5: A kid who their mother dies and they need someone.
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: To care for them.
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's based on asking the body electric.
- 1:06:48Speaker 5: Go to a store to buy an electric grandma. Well,
- 1:06:52Speaker 5: it was never presented to us as a Twilight Zone episode.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: That's for sure. I know we saw it in grade
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: school on Reel to Reel, and I remember we saw it.
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: We couldn't wait for it to show again.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: Yeah, that was based on Ray Bradbury.
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: Which makes sense why they would show it to you.
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: Anyway, I keep getting you off the subject of Harold
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: and Maude.
- 1:07:10Speaker 5: But it just seems like something like a rite of
- 1:07:12Speaker 5: passage as a kid, you have to see this movie.
- 1:07:14Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: To me.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: I feel like it should be. The thing I found
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: interesting about this, it's like a reverse Lolita movie.
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: It's a lot healthier, probably. Yeah, probably.
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: It's more voluntary, I think. But it's like, once I
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: got over the initial creeped out factor of them being
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: in love, it was one of the deepest, most touching
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: love stories.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: It's a great love story. It is. It's very sweet.
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: Like, imagine. I mean, ever been captured on cinema, basically.
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just one of those movies that
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: you watch, and it's a comedy, and it I mean, it's... It's.
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: A dark comedy. I mean, he's very dark.
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: But, I mean, it is. It's a dark comedy. But
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: it's one of those movies that's very touching that, like,
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: changes you. You know, like, you watch a movie and it, like,
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: affected you very deeply and changes you somehow. And that
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: was definitely one of those movies. And it's just weird
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: to me that I'd never watched it before. Like I said,
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: the title didn't really sound that interesting to me, so
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: no one had ever explained to me what goes on
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: in the movie, so... I never felt compelled to watch it.
- 1:08:18Speaker 6: It's definitely built up a cult around it over the years,
- 1:08:20Speaker 6: and people really do.
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: Love that movie.
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: It was amazing.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: It's a really good movie.
- 1:08:25Speaker 7: I think, though, in Lolita, the thing is, she just
- 1:08:28Speaker 7: doesn't really care about him at all.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: She's very detached. Yeah.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: She got to be Jennifer Aniston.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: Oh, I want to tell the story about that.
- 1:08:39Speaker 7: There's a local guy who teaches literature here in town,
- 1:08:42Speaker 7: and some time ago in the Courier-Journal, he wrote this
- 1:08:45Speaker 7: little this little piece about how it was 50 years
- 1:08:48Speaker 7: since the publication of Lolita, and where.
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: Is Lolita now? He wonders, is she.
- 1:08:54Speaker 7: Out in the Midwest somewhere? Blah, blah, blah, 50 years later,
- 1:08:58Speaker 7: where is Lolita?
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude. she's fucking no i was like
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: did you watch did you read the did you read
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: the book did you watch the movie man she died
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: she died yeah it's.
- 1:09:10Speaker 7: In the movie this whole thing in the end of
- 1:09:12Speaker 7: the book i mean if you read the book it's
- 1:09:13Speaker 7: like It was a condition that the book could not
- 1:09:16Speaker 7: be published until, you know, can you imagine publishing something
- 1:09:21Speaker 7: like that when she was still alive? But I was
- 1:09:26Speaker 7: just so glad I wasn't that guy. That I hadn't written.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: This, like, long, meandering.
- 1:09:32Speaker 7: Was he being, like, arty about it?
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Like, the idea of Lolita? No, he was saying... The
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: character in the world of Lolita? He was wondering what
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: happened to her, like... Oh, Jesus. What an idiot. Yeah,
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: I know. But, yeah.
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: Did the baby die?
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: Or was it me? I assumed it did. I don't know.
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: Does that be interesting? I don't remember. It's been a
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: few years since I've read the book.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: Sequel. Lolita 2. Even hotter. Even hotter.
- 1:10:03Speaker 5: The electric grandmother was adapted from Ray Bradbury and was
- 1:10:08Speaker 5: another version adapted from the Twilight Zone episode.
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: So they've done a different version?
- 1:10:15Speaker 5: This is Maureen Stapleton is the grandmother.
- 1:10:18Speaker 6: Because the one on Twilight Zone it's Veronica Cartwright was
- 1:10:21Speaker 6: the little kid.
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: The girl from Alien. Yeah. When she was little like No,
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: this was 82.
- 1:10:26Speaker 5: This certainly wasn't Veronica Carver.
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: No, definitely not. But no, she was, yeah, she was
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: the little girl that doesn't want anything to do with Grandma. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: that's okay. Yeah. So, yeah, this one, yeah, that was
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: just one of those memories that I can't get out.
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: It was just, it's there. It's part of, you know. Again,
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: a lot of those episodes did that for me.
- 1:10:46Speaker 6: When I think back, yeah, I was just, they burned
- 1:10:49Speaker 6: themselves into my memory what the twist of it all was.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: What were they trying to get you to do? think
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: and was this some weird reverse Freudian psychology.
- 1:10:59Speaker 11: Like well it was a Catholic school okay first problem
- 1:11:03Speaker 11: uh I think more than anything is they probably usually
- 1:11:07Speaker 11: they acquired those films for cheap or free free is.
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: What they were looking for and they wanted to um
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: Keep us entertained for a while. I think that's pretty
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: much it. No, I don't think they showed us Harold
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: and Maud.
- 1:11:21Speaker 7: It just feels like they did.
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: They showed me some stuff that was inappropriate.
- 1:11:25Speaker 6: But again, especially as the years went on, they just
- 1:11:27Speaker 6: wanted an hour to be quiet. And for them to
- 1:11:30Speaker 6: do their stuff or to take a nap.
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: And that's what it was.
- 1:11:34Speaker 6: As we got older, as they did that in high school,
- 1:11:38Speaker 6: everybody just went to sleep. Teacher didn't care. They just
- 1:11:40Speaker 6: wanted an hour of peace. And that's all it was.
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: Yeah. So do whatever you want, kids. We don't really care.
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: So that's the teaching motto there.
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: Oh, and I went to a tractor pull last night.
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus.
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: And did you know that, like, I just thought a
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: tractor pull is something and that's all. There's like... A
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: method and a way to score it? It's like a sport.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Wait, does this qualify as a geek activity?
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: Um, no.
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: Redneck. Redneck activity. Chewing tobacco in their mouth?
- 1:12:12Speaker 5: No.
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: Yeah, there's got to.
- 1:12:13Speaker 7: Be some standard of geekiness there.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: From her angle, it's geeky because she doesn't really fit.
- 1:12:18Speaker 6: So it's like a geek commenting on a redneck activity.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: A geek about town. Yeah. We're doing a tie-in segment.
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: Actually, it is kind of geeky, but, um. Because I
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: was sitting next to Bobby and I was like, you're
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: going to have to explain to me the point of
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: this and how it's scored in scientific terms.
- 1:12:37Speaker 5: You know, it gets to a point because I've been,
- 1:12:39Speaker 5: my dad used to work with a guy that did
- 1:12:43Speaker 5: the grading at the National Farm Machinery Show. So he'd
- 1:12:46Speaker 5: go out and he'd regrade it in between rounds. And
- 1:12:51Speaker 5: so we got really good seats right up front.
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: And I was like, I'll go.
- 1:12:56Speaker 13: And it's good up to the point, and then they
- 1:12:59Speaker 13: have the unlimited where they can do whatever they want
- 1:13:02Speaker 13: to the machine, and it's got, like, literally got jet
- 1:13:05Speaker 13: engines on the back of it, and they have to
- 1:13:08Speaker 13: weigh them down so much that it.
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: Just becomes just stupid.
- 1:13:12Speaker 5: But when you see, like, the old traditional tractors and
- 1:13:14Speaker 5: they're pulling stuff, it can be a lot of fun.
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: If you say so. I thought it was fun.
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: It's like the tractors are, like, being really loud and stuff,
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: and it's just, like.
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: Yee-haw, I believe is my comment to that.
- 1:13:27Speaker 7: In my hometown, they had to combine the taffy pole
- 1:13:30Speaker 7: and the tractor pole, and they'd just tie a couple
- 1:13:32Speaker 7: of tractors together with taffy.
- 1:13:35Speaker 1: How did that work out?
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: In my town, they had to combine the tractor pole
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: with public execution.
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: They get four tractors. I'd rather see that. That'd be
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: way more awesome.
- 1:13:46Speaker 2: Oh, if only. If only.
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: All right. On that, I think we should wrap up
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: the Geek Weeks. Is that a full show? It might
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: as well be.
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I haven't been here in like two months.
- 1:13:58Speaker 2: I had a lot of stuff to go through.
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: All right. So with that, we will take a break
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: and be back with this week's movie. We'll get a
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: little bit more coffee.
- 1:14:04Speaker 7: Yeah, me too.
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: Might as well. Well, if you want to sing out,
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: sing out.
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: And if you want to be free, be free.
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: Cause there's a million things to be, you know that
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: there are. And if you want to live high, live high.
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: And if you want to live low, live low.
- 1:14:27Speaker 14: Cause there's a million ways to go.
- 1:14:31Speaker 10: You know that there are.
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- 1:16:28Speaker 1: We've all got quirks. I've got them. You've got them, Dave.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: That's what makes this character so, so compelling.
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: Thumbs up from me. Same here.
- 1:16:39Speaker 2: This is Dean Cameron, also known as Chainsaw, and you're
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: listening to Moving Up Down. I'm Chainsaw.
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: I'm Dave.
- 1:16:51Speaker 7: We'll see you at the movies.
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: It's time for Sofa Theater.
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: The condition is terminal chest cancer. Prognosis, I have two
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: or three weeks to live at the most.
- 1:17:17Speaker 9: Why didn't you tell me this?
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: There's no point.
- 1:17:19Speaker 15: In telling you.
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: You couldn't do anything about it anyway. Well, in your
- 1:17:25Speaker 1: own case, I doubt if you're the best judge. Anything
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: I can do to make it easier? Yes, there is. Donald,
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: show him.
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: That is not the gorilla's original head. He's heavily sedated now,
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: but we have achieved 100% total spinal alignment on the
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: newly transplanted head.
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: It's impossible.
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: Is it?
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: Heart, lungs, kidneys, arms, legs, everything.
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: Is functioning properly.
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: I kept the original body and the transplanted head alive
- 1:18:03Speaker 3: on two separate heart-lung machines. Well, what do you think?
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: Absolutely amazing. Exactly.
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: Total spinal alignment achieved by using matching electric currents attached
- 1:18:16Speaker 3: to the nerve end. I left the two heads together
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: for 28 days until the new one was strong enough
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: to take over.
- 1:18:26Speaker 8: This could revolutionize the whole profession.
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: I'll get a paper on it. No, no, no, no.
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: We've got to go much further. That's why I need
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: your help.
- 1:18:35Speaker 3: What are you talking about? I'm talking about science, about genius.
- 1:18:41Speaker 3: Genius must be prolonged. Philip, I want to transplant my
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: head on a healthy body.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: Two heads are better than one.
- 1:18:53Speaker 16: That's a saying that is oh so true. Two heads
- 1:18:57Speaker 16: are better than one.
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: They're me. They're you. That's true.
- 1:19:03Speaker 16: And between the two of you, you can solve any
- 1:19:07Speaker 16: problem that comes up.
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. It's much better to beat. Yeah,
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: you're gonna be the one!
- 1:19:13Speaker 16: Cause what you don't know or can't figure out, you
- 1:19:16Speaker 16: can try to.
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: Try! Two heads are better than one. The more, the merrier,
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: you bet. You bet!
- 1:19:27Speaker 16: Two heads are better than one. You could use all
- 1:19:31Speaker 16: the help you can get. And when all's said and done,
- 1:19:35Speaker 16: this is where it's at. What I'm simply saying is that.
- 1:19:40Speaker 16: Two heads are better than one. So just put your
- 1:19:44Speaker 16: heads together. Yes, put your heads together. Quick, put your
- 1:19:51Speaker 16: heads together and have fun.
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: Have fun. All right, we're back with this week's Sofa
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: Theater feature. This week's Sofa Theater.
- 1:20:05Speaker 6: Feature is The Thing with Two Heads. That's right, the
- 1:20:09Speaker 6: infamous thing with two heads. The year is 1972.
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: The director is Lee Frost.
- 1:20:16Speaker 6: The plot, if you want to call it that, a
- 1:20:19Speaker 6: rich but racist man is dying and hatches an elaborate
- 1:20:23Speaker 6: scheme for transplanting his head onto another man's body. And
- 1:20:27Speaker 6: without a spoiler alert, I guess, I think that's the
- 1:20:31Speaker 6: whole plot right there.
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: The title is a spoiler alert.
- 1:20:33Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't spoil it much more than that, but
- 1:20:35Speaker 6: I guess we're going to go into it a little more, so.
- 1:20:38Speaker 1: go run out and watch yourself some of the thing
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: with two heads.
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: Or don't.
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: Or don't. Top 50 worst movies of all time. I
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: think they're off. Oh, they're way off. Anyway, that whole
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: list was jacked up.
- 1:20:50Speaker 2: We've watched way worse movies.
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Way worse. So, alright, where would you like
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: to begin with the thing with two heads?
- 1:20:58Speaker 7: Well, in general, I felt it was kind of a
- 1:21:04Speaker 7: Faulknerian exercise because it you know, because of the themes
- 1:21:10Speaker 7: of racial division and the gothic quality, it reminded me
- 1:21:15Speaker 7: a little bit of Light in August, because the character
- 1:21:18Speaker 7: Joe Christmas, who was also kind of half black, and.
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: They say.
- 1:21:26Speaker 7: In that kind of literature, the mulatto character is the loneliest.
- 1:21:31Speaker 7: But it It seemed like they kind of got along
- 1:21:34Speaker 7: during the motocross section. Like they were really starting to bond.
- 1:21:38Speaker 1: They really, yeah. They took a turn, didn't they? Didn't they?
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: Holy shit. I don't know. It seemed like it was...
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: It was probably written in an afternoon. Oh, yeah.
- 1:21:52Speaker 7: You know, you get the idea.
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: And you just sort of push through it. It was
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: 75% motocross scene.
- 1:21:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: Yes, it was.
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: It was like the worst thing to happen since the
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: Harry Potter Quidditch.
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of.
- 1:22:06Speaker 2: Or that scene in Star Wars where they just go.
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: Yeah, the pod racing.
- 1:22:09Speaker 7: I remember at that time like motocross was like a
- 1:22:11Speaker 7: big thing.
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: I was thinking that when they got up to that hill.
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: Everybody was like really excited about it.
- 1:22:15Speaker 7: And then the other thing that was going on back
- 1:22:17Speaker 7: then was CB radios.
- 1:22:18Speaker 6: Yep.
- 1:22:19Speaker 7: And so I noticed that the cops were using CB... Like,
- 1:22:22Speaker 7: I heard one cop say 10-4. I don't think that's
- 1:22:26Speaker 7: cop speak. That's not cop lingo.
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: I don't know. I.
- 1:22:31Speaker 7: I really kind of had a hard time watching it, like,
- 1:22:34Speaker 7: actually watching it.
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: See, in the beginning, I didn't.
- 1:22:37Speaker 6: Like, that first couple of, like, the first 20 minutes
- 1:22:40Speaker 6: or so, I was kind of enjoying it, like, more
- 1:22:43Speaker 6: than I expected to.
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: Like, I went in kind of like, oh, God, this
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: is going to be, like, really terrible. Like, you know,
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: being on the list of 50 worst movies, I was like, oh,
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: this is going to be bad. And I got in.
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: And a few minutes in, I see a two-headed gorilla, and.
- 1:22:56Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, I'm kind of liking this movie.
- 1:22:59Speaker 6: And then he goes into the crazy plan, and you
- 1:23:01Speaker 6: see him working it out, and I'm like... Kind of
- 1:23:03Speaker 6: on board with this.
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: This is kind of fun. And you get a few
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: hot nurses thrown in there. And you get some hot.
- 1:23:06Speaker 6: Nurses, and you get a crazy gorilla escape, and a
- 1:23:09Speaker 6: crazy attack on a.
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: Grocery store scene.
- 1:23:12Speaker 6: And he pushes banana all over his face. And he
- 1:23:14Speaker 6: doesn't know how to eat a banana. And I was like,
- 1:23:17Speaker 6: I'm kind of having fun with this.
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: This is all right. And they don't have a cage
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: on top of it.
- 1:23:21Speaker 6: I was like, why wouldn't that be, like, number one,
- 1:23:23Speaker 6: why wouldn't it just be one big metal cage? And
- 1:23:25Speaker 6: number two, why wouldn't you bolt it down? Why didn't
- 1:23:28Speaker 6: they give him a shot before he gets in?
- 1:23:31Speaker 7: I've seen more high-tech looking labs. It's just like my
- 1:23:37Speaker 7: brother-in-law's garage van looks like it would be a better
- 1:23:41Speaker 7: place to perform an operation.
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: They have a Jacob's ladder, do they?
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: Here's my problem with it. It's this amazing high-tech revolutionary transport,
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: or not transplant.
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: Audio-vibratory transport device.
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: Transplant hospital yeah it looks like a house and a
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: basement doing all the operations in the dirty basement they
- 1:24:03Speaker 2: wash it down at.
- 1:24:03Speaker 5: That one point with mops he's supposed to be super
- 1:24:06Speaker 5: rich he's doing it at his facility at home why
- 1:24:10Speaker 5: not spend the money to finish the basement first.
- 1:24:12Speaker 6: Yeah i mean he's got so many rooms he's keeping
- 1:24:15Speaker 6: everyone in town in his house as like.
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: A hotel right but you wouldn't finish out the basement.
- 1:24:21Speaker 7: It looks like Spider caught a fly.
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. Yeah.
- 1:24:25Speaker 5: And the other thing is, he has a ramp in
- 1:24:29Speaker 5: the operating room just so he can see everything. The
- 1:24:33Speaker 5: dude doesn't build a ramp down into the basement. They
- 1:24:36Speaker 5: have to carry him down. Why have stairs? He's in
- 1:24:39Speaker 5: a wheelchair. That just kicked in in the last year,
- 1:24:42Speaker 5: I think. But still, you've got money. You could put
- 1:24:46Speaker 5: a ramp in in a year. I'm pretty sure.
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: If you're putting heads on a gorilla, you can afford
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: a ramp. You can afford a ramp. What did I
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: recognize the music from? Was it every tone? No, not
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: the beginning. That's what I was going to say.
- 1:25:03Speaker 6: That first, again, that part that I liked had kind
- 1:25:07Speaker 6: of cool music. Like it was very dramatic, almost overly
- 1:25:11Speaker 6: dramatic music. And I was just like, again, I kind
- 1:25:13Speaker 6: of liked it. It was that tone of like the
- 1:25:15Speaker 6: fifties and sixties, like cool TV show of the week
- 1:25:19Speaker 6: kind of music that they stole and used in this.
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: So it, It might have been lifted from something else.
- 1:25:24Speaker 7: And then they had that early 70s guitar riff background.
- 1:25:28Speaker 6: Once they got later into the fun stuff, you've got
- 1:25:30Speaker 6: to work a little.
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: Once they had the crossover.
- 1:25:33Speaker 6: Yeah, then it became, let's work a little.
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: Funk into this now.
- 1:25:36Speaker 7: A lot of it was making me think Columbo. Was
- 1:25:39Speaker 7: that music on Columbo?
- 1:25:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like Columbo, too. It did.
- 1:25:42Speaker 6: Well, the beginning felt even older. It felt like almost
- 1:25:45Speaker 6: 50s mystery TV show kind of... Like it was very heavy-handed,
- 1:25:50Speaker 6: the music. And they were almost working it. It was
- 1:25:54Speaker 6: that kind of explaining the science experiment going on. It
- 1:25:58Speaker 6: was almost like a 50s sci-fi movie gone wrong kind
- 1:26:02Speaker 6: of thing. Only a 70s exploitation version of it.
- 1:26:08Speaker 5: It almost had an overall feeling of it didn't know
- 1:26:13Speaker 5: what kind of movie it was. It's almost, well, it
- 1:26:17Speaker 5: is sci-fi, but it should have gone down that 50s
- 1:26:21Speaker 5: drive-in kind of sci-fi.
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit dirtier, a little bit, you know.
- 1:26:27Speaker 5: But it also had that 70s feel, you know, almost detective,
- 1:26:33Speaker 5: like you said.
- 1:26:34Speaker 7: I was thinking Columbo, it could be Mannix, I don't know.
- 1:26:38Speaker 6: But then it points it also wants to be a blaxploitation.
- 1:26:41Speaker 6: It wants to be an action movie. And almost a
- 1:26:44Speaker 6: horror movie at times.
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: At times. And an episode of the Brady Bunch.
- 1:26:48Speaker 6: Somewhere.
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: I didn't catch that. So that was.
- 1:26:50Speaker 6: My problem was it's not even that it didn't even
- 1:26:52Speaker 6: know what it wanted to be. It just didn't commit
- 1:26:54Speaker 6: to anything.
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:26:56Speaker 6: Anything that it hinted at. Anything that it suggested it
- 1:26:59Speaker 6: didn't follow through with.
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: Well, here's my problem with this movie. I don't like
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: movies of Where there's like sort of a plot, but
- 1:27:07Speaker 2: not really. But either way, you ended up exactly where
- 1:27:11Speaker 2: you were. when the movie started. The guy still needs
- 1:27:15Speaker 2: a body. He still hates black people. Like, the guy's... Okay,
- 1:27:19Speaker 2: maybe he's innocent for that crime, but now he's, like,
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: evaded the cops and, like, shot at them, so now
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: you're going to be arrested anyway.
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: He beat up a bunch of cops, escaping, so, yeah,
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: he's still going to be on the run.
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: So you, like, tried to kill and beat the shit
- 1:27:32Speaker 2: out of cops to prove that you didn't kill a cop?
- 1:27:35Speaker 2: What the fuck is your problem? You deserve to be
- 1:27:37Speaker 2: put to death because you're a fucking moron.
- 1:27:39Speaker 6: Oh, God.
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: And also, in addition... Now the black doctor is just
- 1:27:44Speaker 2: going to go for his woman. Did anyone see that coming?
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: It was all about her. The black doctor was smooth,
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: by the way. He was smooth. I need to figure
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: out who he was. Is he the same actor that
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: was in the.
- 1:27:57Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure he was, whatever you're going to say.
- 1:27:59Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever you're going to say. Oh, please.
- 1:28:02Speaker 7: That seems very familiar. But then everybody did. Even the gorilla,
- 1:28:07Speaker 7: I think, has been in some other shows.
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: That gorilla looked pretty good, though. It did look pretty good.
- 1:28:13Speaker 7: I remember Rosie Greer was going around everywhere back then
- 1:28:16Speaker 7: because he was the football player who did needlepoint or
- 1:28:20Speaker 7: something and wasn't embarrassed.
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: To say it.
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I was going to go into. I
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: don't think I knew the extent.
- 1:28:27Speaker 6: I think we're going to have to go off on
- 1:28:28Speaker 6: a tangent of just Rosie Greer.
- 1:28:30Speaker 7: Rosie Greer, yeah. I remember Rosie Greer. He was on
- 1:28:34Speaker 7: the Brady Bunch once.
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: I'm sure he was.
- 1:28:36Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: But do you know some of the other stuff? Yeah,
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: let me.
- 1:28:39Speaker 6: let me bring up the rosie greer one because i
- 1:28:42Speaker 6: read and it was like okay.
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: Screw this movie we need a movie of rosie greer's.
- 1:28:47Speaker 14: Life because yeah he was all over the place for
- 1:28:51Speaker 14: a while back then i guess i don't know i
- 1:28:53Speaker 14: was a kid But I definitely remember Rosie Greer trying
- 1:28:58Speaker 14: to be like some sort of general celebrity.
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: And he was. He was like O.J. Simpson, you know,
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: kind of. Only gone right. Before he, right. He had
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: so much charisma in that movie, though, didn't he?
- 1:29:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: Which is just the.
- 1:29:12Speaker 7: He's a charming guy.
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: The guy with the two heads?
- 1:29:14Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:29:15Speaker 15: Oh, yeah.
- 1:29:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:29:16Speaker 7: Which one was he?
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: Was he the guy with the two heads? Not every
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: movie can you ask that about. Which one? Was he
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: the one.
- 1:29:25Speaker 6: With the two heads?
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: Can you imagine the police description? Be on the lookout
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: for a.
- 1:29:32Speaker 7: Guy he's described as black and white.
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: He has two heads. He's pretty big.
- 1:29:39Speaker 7: He kind of looks like a football player. The police
- 1:29:42Speaker 7: artist could just do a silhouette. For the sketch.
- 1:29:46Speaker 6: Oh, so yeah, he's, I mean, he's played, he's like
- 1:29:50Speaker 6: a big college football player, played for the New York Giants,
- 1:29:52Speaker 6: played for the LA Rams. That I kind of knew.
- 1:29:54Speaker 6: I assumed, again, not knowing that much about sports. I
- 1:29:57Speaker 6: was like, yeah, I'm pretty sure that guy used to
- 1:29:58Speaker 6: play football. So, okay, aside from that, he gets out
- 1:30:01Speaker 6: of football. He was bodyguard for Robert Kennedy during the
- 1:30:04Speaker 6: 68 presidential campaign. was guarding the senator's wife, Ethel, during
- 1:30:09Speaker 6: the assassination, was unable to prevent the killing, but Greer
- 1:30:13Speaker 6: is the one who took control of the gun and
- 1:30:14Speaker 6: subdued Sirhan Sirhan.
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. I mean, that's way more interesting than this
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: entire movie put together.
- 1:30:21Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:30:22Speaker 6: And then, okay, other ones, he hosts his own talk
- 1:30:24Speaker 6: show in L.A., had about 70 different guests during the
- 1:30:27Speaker 6: 60s and 70s.
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: He's a singer... Yeah.
- 1:30:31Speaker 6: And released several singles during the 60s on all these
- 1:30:35Speaker 6: different labels.
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: Let's see.
- 1:30:38Speaker 6: Then, as you mentioned, in 1973, he published Rosie Greer's
- 1:30:42Speaker 6: Needlepoint for Men. Yes.
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: What? I remember that.
- 1:30:46Speaker 6: Every one of these is way more interesting than anything
- 1:30:48Speaker 6: going on in this movie.
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: I just want a movie about Rosie Greer's life.
- 1:30:52Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: I'm just like, me?
- 1:30:53Speaker 2: I think Rosie, I thought, when I saw Rosie Greer,
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with Rosie Greer. I just assumed it
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: was the chick that played his girlfriend. I mean, I
- 1:31:01Speaker 2: don't think of this gigantic football player dude named Rosie.
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: It's Rosie? Yeah. I don't even use Roosevelt, but, you know.
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: When you're that cool, you get your own nickname.
- 1:31:10Speaker 7: I think it's like a boy named Sue kind of thing.
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: He didn't need a point.
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: When you're fucking eight feet tall and you're a football player,
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: you can be called Bitch Tits.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: That's what I was like, how.
- 1:31:23Speaker 6: As ridiculous as this setup of jamming some guy's head
- 1:31:27Speaker 6: next to your head for a whole movie scenario is,
- 1:31:30Speaker 6: then I looked at him when he walked in and
- 1:31:31Speaker 6: was like, Jesus, look how tall he is. I'm like,
- 1:31:34Speaker 6: what a pain in the ass that must have been, like,
- 1:31:36Speaker 6: putting him on a ladder every time they had to
- 1:31:38Speaker 6: shoot just.
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: To get this guy's head up near his head. Right.
- 1:31:42Speaker 6: Oh man maybe that's why there was a lot of
- 1:31:44Speaker 6: scenes sitting down and.
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: Like I think he just piggybacked I guess.
- 1:31:47Speaker 6: So he could he was in like a Yoda backpack
- 1:31:51Speaker 6: at one point he does a flip in a swamp
- 1:31:55Speaker 6: I don't know it was pretty awesome but oh god.
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: So yoda's a racist i see.
- 1:32:05Speaker 6: You are a racist of course he is he's fine
- 1:32:08Speaker 6: with green people but he don't like black people i.
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: Like i like how somehow the running joke throughout the
- 1:32:14Speaker 2: movie became you black bastard.
- 1:32:16Speaker 6: Right see okay once again they never fully commit to
- 1:32:19Speaker 6: anything like they don't even throw around real racial stuff
- 1:32:23Speaker 6: here it's like it's the most lightweight like The PG
- 1:32:27Speaker 6: version of, what's the, we can't really throw in the
- 1:32:29Speaker 6: big word. We can't really use most of the others,
- 1:32:32Speaker 6: and I don't know why.
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: It's exploitation.
- 1:32:35Speaker 6: You'd think they really would have committed and just made
- 1:32:37Speaker 6: this guy a horrible person and made him throw out
- 1:32:40Speaker 6: everything in the book, but you.
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: Black bastard is about the worst thing.
- 1:32:45Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of you people, but I mean, again,
- 1:32:49Speaker 6: people now use that kind of shit.
- 1:32:50Speaker 1: What's the dessert, watermelon? yeah i was like.
- 1:32:53Speaker 12: But again they start they start making fun of it
- 1:32:56Speaker 12: like more than anybody you know it's like they start
- 1:32:58Speaker 12: like sticking it to him with that yeah okay next
- 1:33:02Speaker 12: we're gonna have some fucking collard greens chitlin.
- 1:33:05Speaker 5: Yeah we're gonna fry up some fry up some yeah
- 1:33:09Speaker 5: yeah chitlin so i was just like so.
- 1:33:11Speaker 6: I mean they were having fun with it really they
- 1:33:13Speaker 6: were making more fun of him as the stupid old
- 1:33:16Speaker 6: white guy So, I mean, once again, it wasn't really
- 1:33:18Speaker 6: done in a way that was insulting because they did
- 1:33:21Speaker 6: way more.
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: I mean, he just looks like an idiot because he's
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: the old stupid white guy.
- 1:33:24Speaker 5: So how about the girlfriend when she comes in and
- 1:33:28Speaker 5: he's got she he's been in prison.
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: He's supposed to be dead. He's got this man's head
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: on him. And what's her comment? She doesn't say anything.
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: She didn't go, oh, my God, or anything.
- 1:33:38Speaker 6: She goes.
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: Something like, you get in the craziest things. You get
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: into some shit. Because you get in crazy things. I
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: thought it was, you get into some shit. Really? That's
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: your response, not, what the fuck?
- 1:33:52Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 1:33:52Speaker 1: That seems like a pretty good response. Yeah. And is
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: that the only thing you have to? Well, we knew
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: that question was coming.
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: I mean, and honestly, this is what I'm thinking for
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: the white doctor guy. I'm like, you know... you're going
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: to be really good at jumping and you're going to
- 1:34:11Speaker 2: have a huge dick. What's the problem here?
- 1:34:13Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, as he got upset, I'm like, okay,
- 1:34:15Speaker 6: by the time you take off that other head, you're
- 1:34:17Speaker 6: getting a win-win on this deal. Let's be honest here.
- 1:34:20Speaker 6: You're a crinkly old white dude. You better be glad
- 1:34:23Speaker 6: you got this dude's body.
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: I don't see the problem.
- 1:34:25Speaker 6: No.
- 1:34:27Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure I saw parts of this when I
- 1:34:30Speaker 7: was a kid, but not enough to have a focused idea.
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: Not enough to know to avoid it.
- 1:34:35Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I did have an idea of it, because,
- 1:34:37Speaker 7: you know, once you hear the title, you have the idea,
- 1:34:41Speaker 7: you know. Well, the title doesn't really reveal the expectation.
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: That and a 45-minute car chase on a dirt bike is.
- 1:34:52Speaker 6: That's what I realized as I got into this. Number one,
- 1:34:55Speaker 6: the title is misleading anyway. It makes it build like
- 1:34:58Speaker 6: it's a monster movie. So, I mean, if you don't
- 1:35:00Speaker 6: see the poster, you don't get the joke of it.
- 1:35:03Speaker 6: Or I guess the trailer obviously makes the joke known.
- 1:35:05Speaker 7: Yeah, once you see the image, then you've got the
- 1:35:08Speaker 7: whole movie because it's a black guy and a white guy.
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: And you're like, wah, wah. But that's what I was
- 1:35:14Speaker 1: thinking as it went on.
- 1:35:15Speaker 6: I was like, this is one of those that was
- 1:35:17Speaker 6: all pitch.
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: It's all premise and no story.
- 1:35:21Speaker 6: It's like they don't even, they get in there, and
- 1:35:23Speaker 6: like you said, they have a script.
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: I don't know that they did.
- 1:35:26Speaker 6: They have a premise, and they got a couple of sets,
- 1:35:29Speaker 6: not good sets, and they went in there and went.
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: What do we do now? It's like, hey, I know
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: a guy that's got a dirt bike track.
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: Let's go over there.
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:35:37Speaker 1: And that's what they did. What are we going to
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: do with the doctor? Put him on the back. So
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: it's two heads and a doctor. And a doctor.
- 1:35:44Speaker 6: So they don't, yeah, it's like they don't have a
- 1:35:45Speaker 6: story going into it. They have a premise. And that's
- 1:35:48Speaker 6: all they do at the beginning and at the end.
- 1:35:50Speaker 6: You've got the premise.
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: You've got the setup.
- 1:35:52Speaker 6: You follow through with that. But it's an hour and
- 1:35:53Speaker 6: a half of, what do we do now? Drive around
- 1:35:57Speaker 6: a little bit.
- 1:36:00Speaker 2: That's what I hated about the movie. It's like at
- 1:36:02Speaker 2: the end of the movie, the guy's still wanted by
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: the police for the same reason. He's probably still going
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: to be condemned to death. The white guy's still racist,
- 1:36:09Speaker 2: and he's still bodiless. I feel like a movie should
- 1:36:14Speaker 2: at least solve or something the problems that are.
- 1:36:19Speaker 7: That's the source of my ambivalent hatred about this movie
- 1:36:23Speaker 7: and any movie.
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: I'm ambivalent because.
- 1:36:25Speaker 7: Part of the reason I hate it is I envy it.
- 1:36:29Speaker 7: Because as somebody who set out to be an artist,
- 1:36:33Speaker 7: you know, for a long time you think what's going
- 1:36:36Speaker 7: on is like intellectual. It's your philosophy. That's what's guiding you.
- 1:36:41Speaker 7: Then you start to realize maybe it's just depression. Maybe
- 1:36:44Speaker 7: it's just depression. Maybe that's why I can't make crap.
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: Like, I don't.
- 1:36:50Speaker 6: Somebody actually made this. You're overthinking your shit. This guy went,
- 1:36:54Speaker 6: two-headed gorilla, fuck it, make it.
- 1:36:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:36:57Speaker 7: It's like, where do you get that kind of exuberance
- 1:37:00Speaker 7: that you're willing to just make something like that and
- 1:37:04Speaker 7: not look back and not, you know, I don't know.
- 1:37:08Speaker 1: And how did these people come together to make this
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: fucking thing? And how do you get Rosie Grover involved?
- 1:37:15Speaker 2: I mean, this is a little bit off subject, but
- 1:37:17Speaker 2: I want to say it was Jason Schwartzman. But I
- 1:37:20Speaker 2: remember there was, like, this, like, faux commercial preview before
- 1:37:24Speaker 2: a movie. And he was, like, a director, and, like,
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: ridiculous shit was going on in the background.
- 1:37:29Speaker 7: Isn't that his new little show?
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: It was, like, it was several years ago.
- 1:37:34Speaker 1: Oh.
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: Several years ago. And it's like, explosions are happening, nothing
- 1:37:38Speaker 2: makes sense. He's like, all right, print it. You know, like,
- 1:37:41Speaker 2: I want to say it was.
- 1:37:42Speaker 6: I thought that was the, no, who's the Royal Tenenbaum guy,
- 1:37:45Speaker 6: the director?
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: Anderson.
- 1:37:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:37:48Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought the American Express Wes Anderson commercial is
- 1:37:52Speaker 6: almost exactly like that.
- 1:37:54Speaker 1: That's it.
- 1:37:54Speaker 6: It's crazy shit going on, and he's just talking, doing
- 1:37:57Speaker 6: his stuff, not even reacting.
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: To all of it.
- 1:37:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:37:59Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:38:00Speaker 2: Makes me think of that.
- 1:38:01Speaker 1: Kind of. This is that movie he's shooting.
- 1:38:04Speaker 2: This happened, print it.
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: Print it, yeah. We'll work it in.
- 1:38:08Speaker 6: And here's what, I mean, here's, I guess, one of
- 1:38:10Speaker 6: the biggest issues I had going in, because, again, I'm
- 1:38:13Speaker 6: having fun those first few minutes with the two-headed gorilla,
- 1:38:16Speaker 6: and then we get to the rest of it.
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: We get to that next stage, and it's.
- 1:38:19Speaker 6: Them, like, setting up the illness and setting up the
- 1:38:22Speaker 6: surgery idea and setting up all this other stuff. And
- 1:38:25Speaker 6: I i realize i'm like we're pretty far in now
- 1:38:29Speaker 6: this thing is really taking itself seriously right and i
- 1:38:32Speaker 6: and i realize.
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: Not and it's but it but it is like that's the.
- 1:38:36Speaker 6: Thing they are taking this really serious tone like in
- 1:38:38Speaker 6: the beginning again the music's overly dramatic so i thought
- 1:38:41Speaker 6: they were going to be kind of fun about it
- 1:38:42Speaker 6: and they were going to like play up the goofiness
- 1:38:44Speaker 6: of this whole thing and by the time the gorilla
- 1:38:46Speaker 6: sort of is taken back and they start doing the
- 1:38:48Speaker 6: explanation of the the the surgery, it just takes on
- 1:38:52Speaker 6: this dead serious tone, and it's almost like they're doing
- 1:38:54Speaker 6: an episode of General Hospital from back in the day.
- 1:38:57Speaker 6: They're explaining the procedure with dead seriousness.
- 1:39:01Speaker 2: One thing I love, sir, I have to interrupt you.
- 1:39:04Speaker 2: The part where they're doing the surgery, and all they're
- 1:39:06Speaker 2: doing is naming every medical instrument that has ever been used. Sponge.
- 1:39:12Speaker 3: Wipe.
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: Paralysis. Bulldog clamp. Scalpel and forceps.
- 1:39:29Speaker 10: Scalpel.
- 1:39:34Speaker 1: Suction.
- 1:39:36Speaker 2: Pads.
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: Ringer solution.
- 1:39:43Speaker 7: Ochsner clamp.
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: 500cc spec sales.
- 1:39:49Speaker 2: Sponge.
- 1:39:51Speaker 6: Sponge.
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: I wrote that down.
- 1:39:53Speaker 10: They had a list.
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: You know, like, forceps. And they just kept reading them off.
- 1:39:57Speaker 6: And after a while, I was like, okay, do you
- 1:40:00Speaker 6: use a bulldog clip in surgery?
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: I don't think so.
- 1:40:03Speaker 6: They got like an odor sheet from a medical supply
- 1:40:05Speaker 6: store and they started reading it. And I was like,
- 1:40:07Speaker 6: is there such a thing as a mosquito clamp?
- 1:40:10Speaker 1: You're making shit up now. I thought, well, there's butterfly bandages.
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: I guess it's a real mosquito clamp. It's a really
- 1:40:17Speaker 1: small clamp. I was like, you're just making up shit now.
- 1:40:20Speaker 1: I was also the explanation that, oh, well, there's no blood.
- 1:40:25Speaker 1: Because we shut off the heart for this. So there's
- 1:40:28Speaker 1: no blood. And there's no blood. It's like everything's perfectly... Basically,
- 1:40:31Speaker 1: we couldn't afford blood.
- 1:40:33Speaker 15: Right.
- 1:40:33Speaker 1: So let's make up a line of dialogue. There's no scars.
- 1:40:37Speaker 1: There's nothing. And again, we're talking about the surgery.
- 1:40:40Speaker 5: Oh, it's just a basic amputation when you take it off.
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: No big deal. Like when you take a head off,
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: like you do. Because that's not connected to nerves or anything.
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: It's normal.
- 1:40:49Speaker 2: It's fine.
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: It's fine. I love that he just, oh, yeah, it's
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: no big deal. Just take it off. What he says,
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: I did it by myself in 35 minutes.
- 1:40:58Speaker 6: Yeah. So, I mean, that whole section is, like, dead serious. Like,
- 1:41:02Speaker 6: there's no joking around at all. Yeah, but then you
- 1:41:05Speaker 6: get to the point where there's, like, the big car chase.
- 1:41:08Speaker 6: And cops are probably dying.
- 1:41:11Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, and the guy's doing like a Keystone Cops.
- 1:41:14Speaker 6: They're jumping up and down on the car and changing
- 1:41:16Speaker 6: the tire.
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. It's like a hazard episode.
- 1:41:21Speaker 7: Everything is weightless because nothing really matters.
- 1:41:24Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:41:25Speaker 1: Nobody cares about anything. It all goes on for too long.
- 1:41:28Speaker 6: So then I started taking notice and I'm like, okay,
- 1:41:30Speaker 6: it's going to get kind of wacky, I guess, when
- 1:41:32Speaker 6: the guy wakes up.
- 1:41:33Speaker 1: When you got two heads stuck on you.
- 1:41:34Speaker 6: Oh, and it's a black guy and I hate black guys. Hey,
- 1:41:37Speaker 6: what you got on my head? Yeah, that's going to
- 1:41:38Speaker 6: get crazy. So then I started, it's 36 minutes before
- 1:41:43Speaker 6: he even wakes up. It's 46 before the escape begins.
- 1:41:46Speaker 6: 46 minutes into this before any wackiness ensues in a
- 1:41:51Speaker 6: premise that's supposed to be nothing but here's the joke
- 1:41:54Speaker 6: here's the so we don't get to the joke of
- 1:41:57Speaker 6: this joke movie for 46 minutes in an hour and
- 1:41:59Speaker 6: a half movie i remember.
- 1:42:01Speaker 5: Because i was watching it streaming it and we'll jump
- 1:42:04Speaker 5: to the chase and i'm like this chase is 20
- 1:42:08Speaker 5: minutes it is like there is 10 minutes left in
- 1:42:11Speaker 5: this movie and they've got to find their girlfriend, get
- 1:42:14Speaker 5: the head off, resolve it somehow.
- 1:42:16Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much that needs to happen and
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: they're just driving around the fucking. I did that.
- 1:42:21Speaker 6: Like when we got to the end, like he's already
- 1:42:23Speaker 6: at the girlfriends and I'm like, aren't we about done
- 1:42:26Speaker 6: with this? Like I'm, I'm looking at it going, we're
- 1:42:27Speaker 6: going to record soon. Am I done with this movie?
- 1:42:30Speaker 6: And at the end of it, yeah, it's got like
- 1:42:31Speaker 6: this little tiny section of, I was like, how are
- 1:42:33Speaker 6: you going.
- 1:42:34Speaker 2: To wrap up?
- 1:42:34Speaker 1: Oh, wait, they don't. No wonder they just stopped. Yeah.
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: It almost has like a Twilight Zone feel at the end, too.
- 1:42:43Speaker 1: I guess. Oh, I can't believe they just left it.
- 1:42:46Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Sorry, I might have spoiled it. Yeah,
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: we're jumping ahead. Sorry.
- 1:42:51Speaker 2: Wow.
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't know.
- 1:42:53Speaker 2: They hooked it up to that machine.
- 1:42:54Speaker 1: It's all good.
- 1:42:55Speaker 2: They didn't kill him.
- 1:42:56Speaker 1: Walt Disney, that shit.
- 1:42:58Speaker 6: With the over-serious tone, it's like they, that middle section, like,
- 1:43:02Speaker 6: they take it so seriously, like, they're talking about the,
- 1:43:06Speaker 6: I mean, they go into how much detail about the
- 1:43:09Speaker 6: secrecy of keeping this operation under wraps, and I'm like,
- 1:43:13Speaker 6: this isn't a place that just had a two-headed gorilla
- 1:43:14Speaker 6: running around. But now they, I mean, they spend, like,
- 1:43:17Speaker 6: that 20 minutes of making sure we know that there's
- 1:43:20Speaker 6: cops on the door, but even the cops don't know
- 1:43:22Speaker 6: what's going on downstairs, and They bring in the other doctor,
- 1:43:24Speaker 6: and they don't tell him what's.
- 1:43:25Speaker 1: Going on downstairs.
- 1:43:26Speaker 6: They had writers for the first time. Do we care
- 1:43:28Speaker 6: about this? Why are we devoting so much time to
- 1:43:31Speaker 6: the secrecy of this opera? And then they're going into, well,
- 1:43:34Speaker 6: we fought off the pneumonia, but we're worried about.
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: Really?
- 1:43:38Speaker 6: Do we care about the medical jargon you're going to
- 1:43:41Speaker 6: throw in for another 15 minutes of this movie? Yeah,
- 1:43:44Speaker 6: it's just everything takes so long to get to, and
- 1:43:48Speaker 6: yet we don't even get to the punchline, really.
- 1:43:50Speaker 1: It's like we don't even get to the joke.
- 1:43:52Speaker 5: What I loved about that whole setup of the medical
- 1:43:55Speaker 5: thing in the house... They had the little desk as
- 1:43:58Speaker 5: you walked in the front door with the nurse sitting
- 1:44:01Speaker 5: behind it, which is like admissions or.
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: Something like that. You have one person to admit, and
- 1:44:05Speaker 1: she's got an in-and-out box that has papers in it.
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: What is going in and what is coming out in
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: this secret procedure? Food orders. Rosie likes to eat, damn it.
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: You want to get him some Arby's. And she's just
- 1:44:19Speaker 1: sitting there, why isn't that shit taken care of?
- 1:44:24Speaker 5: I mean, I know they want to make it look
- 1:44:26Speaker 5: like it's official and something's going on.
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: I think she was busy making breakfast for the cops. Right.
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: The breakfast will be right down. I'm like, is she, like,
- 1:44:34Speaker 1: a maid now?
- 1:44:35Speaker 10: Right.
- 1:44:35Speaker 1: And all of the nurses were done up except for
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: the one redhead. Yeah, she was kind of grumpy.
- 1:44:41Speaker 2: No, there was one with glasses, too, that was kind
- 1:44:43Speaker 2: of like.
- 1:44:44Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I know she wasn't the, you know, the
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: hot one. They all wore different stockings. Yeah. They all...
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: They had their hair different. Yeah. But the one in
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: red just, like, just pulled her off the street and
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: gave her some lines. Here, just put those nurses' costumes on.
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: And I swear you could, like.
- 1:44:59Speaker 5: see the cigarette smoke on her and she was just
- 1:45:01Speaker 5: a little skanky and you know sorry if that was
- 1:45:04Speaker 5: your mother anybody.
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: Who's listening but that was my mother.
- 1:45:07Speaker 5: Well it's funny that the rest of them she was
- 1:45:10Speaker 5: that your babysitter the.
- 1:45:12Speaker 6: Rest of them look like nurses from a 70s porn
- 1:45:15Speaker 6: i mean at any minute it looks like that's gonna
- 1:45:17Speaker 6: break out with the rest of these girls i'll show
- 1:45:19Speaker 6: you a thing with two heads i've seen that one
- 1:45:23Speaker 6: But anyway.
- 1:45:25Speaker 16: John Claude Van Dong.
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: Seriously, go look it up, people. So... Is that double team? No,
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: he doesn't need anybody to double team. He's freak show gifted. So.
- 1:45:42Speaker 6: I guess go ahead.
- 1:45:42Speaker 1: And officially move into the chase scene. Because it's half
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: of the movie. Oh my god.
- 1:45:49Speaker 2: Greg nailed it. Earlier, it felt like you were watching
- 1:45:53Speaker 2: a really boring, long episode of Dukes of Hazzard.
- 1:45:56Speaker 6: Well, okay, we get to the first one when they
- 1:45:58Speaker 6: make the escape, which is quite possibly the least impressive
- 1:46:01Speaker 6: car chase I have ever seen.
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: How do we evade him? I don't know. Turn around. Here, wait.
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: I'll make him swerve into this driveway. Wow, that was crazy.
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: He turned around. What kind of assistance do you need? Well...
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: A tow truck would be nice. And that, you know,
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: if that was the comedy that they were going with,
- 1:46:22Speaker 1: that would have been great. But it was, again, it
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: wasn't even played for comedy, really. It was a comedy
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: or a sci-fi. Yeah.
- 1:46:29Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: To me, it had so much potential.
- 1:46:34Speaker 6: Again, if you would have gotten to the joke pretty
- 1:46:37Speaker 6: early on, I mean, again, the gorilla's fun, but then
- 1:46:39Speaker 6: in the next 15 minutes, you needed to be knee-deep
- 1:46:42Speaker 6: in the middle of this crazy plot, and you needed
- 1:46:45Speaker 6: to play up the camp. I mean, this is the
- 1:46:47Speaker 6: campiest fucking idea for a movie ever. You're sewing another
- 1:46:51Speaker 6: guy's head on another guy's body. Oh, let's one-up it.
- 1:46:53Speaker 6: Let's make it a white guy and a black guy,
- 1:46:55Speaker 6: and the white guy's a complete racist.
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: That's the joke. I mean, that's the gimmick you're working with.
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: It should have been Laurel and Hardy out the ass.
- 1:47:03Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: It should have been.
- 1:47:04Speaker 6: It should have been wacky situations, and then we don't... Like,
- 1:47:09Speaker 6: why don't we tap into the girlfriend scenario?
- 1:47:12Speaker 1: I mean, really.
- 1:47:13Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: You all think that they were going to have sex.
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: I mean, that's the joke scene. That's where you're going
- 1:47:19Speaker 1: with this premise.
- 1:47:21Speaker 16: Right.
- 1:47:21Speaker 1: And they don't. She's like, I'm not going to put
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: a pillowcase on his head. And I'm just like, really?
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: I feel like. That's as far as this is going
- 1:47:28Speaker 1: to go? You people are all the same. Is that
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: all you people think about? No, white people are pretty bad, too. Right.
- 1:47:34Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:47:35Speaker 2: Most movies don't need to be remade, but I feel
- 1:47:37Speaker 2: like this one does.
- 1:47:38Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was... And that's the thing.
- 1:47:40Speaker 6: As bad as the stick-in-his-head thing on there is, like,
- 1:47:42Speaker 6: I hate CGI, but think how much better it would
- 1:47:44Speaker 6: be with CGI.
- 1:47:46Speaker 1: It would still look stupid, but it'd be better. I mean,
- 1:47:49Speaker 1: it'd be funny.
- 1:47:51Speaker 6: Maybe that's what we should have done with this last, like,
- 1:47:53Speaker 6: body-swapping movie.
- 1:47:54Speaker 1: Couldn't we have, like, who was it? Jason Bateman in
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: 17 again. No, the... Bateman and Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds, yeah.
- 1:48:04Speaker 6: What if you took Jason Bateman and Ryan Reynolds and
- 1:48:06Speaker 6: put their heads on the same body?
- 1:48:08Speaker 2: What movie was that?
- 1:48:10Speaker 1: It just came out. Yeah, it was like last week.
- 1:48:12Speaker 6: And it did terrible because people don't want to see
- 1:48:14Speaker 6: a fucking body switching movie.
- 1:48:15Speaker 1: Well, here's the other thing. So Ryan Reynolds is going
- 1:48:18Speaker 1: to switch to Jason Bateman. How disappointing.
- 1:48:20Speaker 17: The difference that's the criticism i heard is like notice
- 1:48:23Speaker 17: they kind of have the same life only one's got
- 1:48:26Speaker 17: kids other than that i'm like what's the wackiness going
- 1:48:28Speaker 17: on oh look i'm a white.
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: Guy I'm a white guy. I know. Right. There's no switching. Hey,
- 1:48:37Speaker 1: I'm going to fuck your wife. Hey, I'm going to
- 1:48:39Speaker 1: fuck your wife. Hey. They're both kind of white chicks.
- 1:48:42Speaker 1: What do you want? They're all boring. Our lives are boring.
- 1:48:44Speaker 1: Who cares if we switch? Right.
- 1:48:45Speaker 12: So.
- 1:48:46Speaker 2: You don't even notice. Hey, because you know what? Your wife,
- 1:48:49Speaker 2: she stopped paying attention to you.
- 1:48:50Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:48:50Speaker 2: Like three months after you left.
- 1:48:52Speaker 1: This will be the most exciting thing that's ever happened
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: to your marriage. So this is a plus.
- 1:48:56Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: So, yeah, at least this has an interesting premise.
- 1:49:00Speaker 6: Like, it's ten times more interesting than that damn movie,
- 1:49:02Speaker 6: and that got what kind of budget?
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: I mean, to pay for Ryan Reynolds' period at this point,
- 1:49:07Speaker 1: completely take out the chase scene. I think Jason Bateman.
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: Jason Bateman, I mean, yeah.
- 1:49:11Speaker 5: They were trying to catch him for, you know, science purposes. Why,
- 1:49:15Speaker 5: when they finally caught up to him with the helicopter,
- 1:49:17Speaker 5: and they could have.
- 1:49:18Speaker 1: You know... Why aren't they shooting at him? They just
- 1:49:20Speaker 1: started shooting at him. That's what I didn't understand.
- 1:49:23Speaker 6: And then I was like, okay, even if you're trying
- 1:49:24Speaker 6: to get this escaped criminal, he's with an innocent doctor hostage. Right.
- 1:49:29Speaker 1: And the white guy's head's innocent as far as we know.
- 1:49:31Speaker 1: They don't know this horrible thing that he did. But
- 1:49:33Speaker 1: I was like, at least the doctor. Right. Like, that
- 1:49:35Speaker 1: guy didn't do anything. You're firing a fucking rifle at him.
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: Unless it was... Pure social commentary. I guess. He's a
- 1:49:42Speaker 1: black guy. Obviously the black guy's in on it. The
- 1:49:43Speaker 1: black doctor's in on it. I guess. And this is now,
- 1:49:46Speaker 1: even though this is a rich white guy, it's a
- 1:49:49Speaker 1: monster and we must kill it. We must kill it.
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: So that's the only... And that black bastard that's with
- 1:49:53Speaker 1: him must die. I don't know. They could have gone
- 1:49:56Speaker 1: that way. They looked like... But they didn't.
- 1:49:58Speaker 6: Again, they never, with the exception of the cop, again
- 1:50:01Speaker 6: saying that black bastard, I'll get him. But they don't... Again,
- 1:50:04Speaker 6: that's one of the main problems I have with this
- 1:50:06Speaker 6: is them just not committing to They don't even commit
- 1:50:09Speaker 6: to the racism angle. They don't resolve anything. Like, at
- 1:50:14Speaker 6: least that's what I expected. Okay, in the beginning, I
- 1:50:17Speaker 6: saw the trailer.
- 1:50:18Speaker 1: I was just like.
- 1:50:18Speaker 6: The white guy's going to be a racist bastard. The
- 1:50:21Speaker 6: black guy's probably going to be kind of cool. And
- 1:50:23Speaker 6: then maybe by the end, again, I'm expecting like buddy
- 1:50:25Speaker 6: cop logic. I'm like, by the end, he's going to
- 1:50:27Speaker 6: come around and be like, you know, you black guys
- 1:50:29Speaker 6: are okay.
- 1:50:30Speaker 1: And I expect him to come around. No, by the end,
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: he's still a fucking racist.
- 1:50:34Speaker 6: And yeah, it's like we, but not even the movie
- 1:50:37Speaker 6: goes anywhere, but it's like, we don't even, we're not
- 1:50:39Speaker 6: even saying anything.
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: Like at least I expect it to have some sort
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: of social commentary.
- 1:50:44Speaker 6: Like as stupid as a lot of the premises, premise
- 1:50:47Speaker 6: side in the, the exploitation movies were in the 70s
- 1:50:51Speaker 6: a lot of them were trying to say something a
- 1:50:52Speaker 6: lot of the black exploitation stuff was trying to make
- 1:50:54Speaker 6: a point a lot of the the exploitation horror was
- 1:50:58Speaker 6: trying to make a point you know and sci-fi was
- 1:51:01Speaker 6: definitely trying to make so with this i expected it
- 1:51:03Speaker 6: to be like an exploitation version of the defiant ones
- 1:51:06Speaker 6: you know you got a black guy and a white
- 1:51:08Speaker 6: guy together they're on the run like the defiant ones
- 1:51:11Speaker 6: tried to make a point It was making a social.
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: Commentary for its day.
- 1:51:15Speaker 6: This could have done a stupid, you know, campy version
- 1:51:18Speaker 6: of that, but it could have said something.
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: It could have made a point at the end, and
- 1:51:22Speaker 1: it doesn't even attempt to do that.
- 1:51:23Speaker 2: Here's another problem I have with the movie. At the
- 1:51:25Speaker 2: beginning of the movie, when the white doctor is interviewing
- 1:51:30Speaker 2: the black doctor, and he flat out tells him, like,
- 1:51:33Speaker 2: I'm not going to hire you because you're black. you're
- 1:51:35Speaker 2: angered and you're upset and you feel a lot of
- 1:51:37Speaker 2: sympathy for that guy. By the end of the movie,
- 1:51:39Speaker 2: he was just like going with the other guy out
- 1:51:41Speaker 2: of spite, you know, which makes.
- 1:51:44Speaker 1: You like, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
- 1:51:47Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:51:47Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and then, and then he would.
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: Have killed him in the first scene. Yeah.
- 1:51:52Speaker 6: And at the same time, it's like in the beginning,
- 1:51:54Speaker 6: he almost does feel like he's siding with him because
- 1:51:56Speaker 6: he's the black guy. And I was like, that's not
- 1:51:58Speaker 6: even making a point here. That's, that's going to get,
- 1:52:00Speaker 6: and that's going with the damn stereotype.
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: That's hurting yourself.
- 1:52:03Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:52:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it was like a negative stereotype.
- 1:52:07Speaker 2: It wasn't, you know, it's like he should have done
- 1:52:09Speaker 2: what he thought and believed to be right as a doctor.
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: Yeah, he would say, you know, I'm going.
- 1:52:15Speaker 2: To side with you, brother, you know.
- 1:52:16Speaker 6: I don't believe in what you're doing. That should be
- 1:52:19Speaker 6: the real thing. It's like, I don't like this white guy,
- 1:52:21Speaker 6: but it's right.
- 1:52:22Speaker 1: To save him.
- 1:52:23Speaker 6: You know, that would have been like the tough call,
- 1:52:26Speaker 6: but he felt like he should have made it.
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: And instead they're just like, well, you're black. I'm just like, really?
- 1:52:31Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: It's like, what is your point you're making here? Because, yeah,
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: it's stupid.
- 1:52:35Speaker 5: During the first chase scene, when he says, get out,
- 1:52:39Speaker 5: move over, I'm going to.
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: Passenger man. Why did he get in the car? Just
- 1:52:43Speaker 1: take off. Just take off. Forget it. I'm going back
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: to Minneapolis or wherever I'm from.
- 1:52:50Speaker 6: Again, like he seemed like he was, like he even said,
- 1:52:53Speaker 6: put the gun away, I'll stick with you.
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: And I'm just like, he just liked being on the run. Like,
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: what are you doing now?
- 1:52:58Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: It's like you were a doctor yesterday. You don't have
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: to be on the run.
- 1:53:01Speaker 7: That's just one of those things in a really crappy
- 1:53:03Speaker 7: movie where the minor characters seem to know that they're
- 1:53:07Speaker 7: minor characters so they don't get in the way of
- 1:53:11Speaker 7: the people who are.
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: If we had a plot. What was that? Moulin Rouge?
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: It's like all the minor characters know they're minor characters.
- 1:53:21Speaker 7: So we'll just stand back and watch y'all. At some
- 1:53:25Speaker 7: point you just it's not even worth trying to parse
- 1:53:29Speaker 7: the logic of something that never never had a vision or.
- 1:53:35Speaker 5: That's my problem with every musical why do they get
- 1:53:39Speaker 5: out of the way and.
- 1:53:40Speaker 1: Assume the chorus area why does the chorus move out
- 1:53:45Speaker 1: of the way Let's let you have your dance scene. No,
- 1:53:47Speaker 1: fuck you. This is my life. Yeah. You know? I
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: don't have to clear out of the way. I'm like, okay,
- 1:53:53Speaker 1: let's clear out of the way so they can do
- 1:53:55Speaker 1: their little hand jive. No, this is my dance. I'm dancing. Yeah.
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: You know, I never understood that.
- 1:54:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:54:00Speaker 7: Well, it's just one of those conventions in a movie
- 1:54:03Speaker 7: that's unlike the thing with two heads because nobody projects
- 1:54:08Speaker 7: themselves into it.
- 1:54:09Speaker 1: As a fantasy. Right.
- 1:54:11Speaker 7: But like in musicals and stuff, The lead people are
- 1:54:14Speaker 7: the people that the audience projects themselves into so they
- 1:54:18Speaker 7: don't object to everybody getting out of the way of
- 1:54:21Speaker 7: their fantasy because in your fantasy, that's what people would do.
- 1:54:25Speaker 7: They would get the fuck out of your way. You'd
- 1:54:29Speaker 7: drive to work every day and the road would just
- 1:54:31Speaker 7: clear in front of you.
- 1:54:33Speaker 1: That would be heaven.
- 1:54:35Speaker 7: But nobody is going to be projecting into the thing with.
- 1:54:41Speaker 7: Because there's nobody in it you want to be, except
- 1:54:43Speaker 7: maybe the gorilla.
- 1:54:45Speaker 1: I like that gorilla, let me tell you.
- 1:54:47Speaker 2: And here's another thing that, I mean, this was in
- 1:54:50Speaker 2: the 70s, and this is still a time when, like,
- 1:54:52Speaker 2: I mean, racism still exists, obviously, and it's always going to, but, like,
- 1:54:56Speaker 2: it wasn't a taboo so much then. I think the
- 1:55:01Speaker 2: people that made this movie didn't see racism as this
- 1:55:04Speaker 2: horrible thing. You know, like, nowadays, like, Racism is funny
- 1:55:08Speaker 2: because collectively we disagree with it so much. But at
- 1:55:13Speaker 2: the time, it was funny because you agreed with it.
- 1:55:16Speaker 2: And that's what I felt like this movie was.
- 1:55:18Speaker 6: This was like the turning point. The 60s sort of
- 1:55:21Speaker 6: was that, and you started to see that. And again,
- 1:55:23Speaker 6: that's why a lot of the blaxploitation stuff works now.
- 1:55:26Speaker 1: Because some of it... Again, it depends on who was
- 1:55:30Speaker 1: in charge.
- 1:55:30Speaker 6: In the beginning, it was like white guys making money
- 1:55:32Speaker 6: off of, you know, haha, we're going to market this
- 1:55:34Speaker 6: to this, you know, crowd of, you know, we know
- 1:55:36Speaker 6: we can take their money and, you know, we're.
- 1:55:38Speaker 1: We're going to make this stupid movie. And then they
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: started being like, okay, here. Here's money.
- 1:55:43Speaker 6: You go make the... You people know what these guys want.
- 1:55:46Speaker 6: So they're giving young black directors money and going, okay.
- 1:55:50Speaker 6: Or like producers or just people who are at least
- 1:55:52Speaker 6: tapped in enough to know, oh, well, we've got money now.
- 1:55:54Speaker 6: I actually kind of want to make a good movie.
- 1:55:56Speaker 6: So you go back and you find good stuff.
- 1:55:58Speaker 1: In there actually because... They just gave them money and went, okay,
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: go make money with it.
- 1:56:03Speaker 6: But you start to see, like, there are ones that
- 1:56:05Speaker 6: are really racist, and you start to see other ones
- 1:56:07Speaker 6: where they start working in, they are playing the social commentary.
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: And they're like, no, the world's changing, and you should
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: be appalled by this.
- 1:56:14Speaker 6: And we kind of are, and we're going to work
- 1:56:16Speaker 6: it into the plot so that, you know, our hero
- 1:56:20Speaker 6: really is a hero. You're not just being duped to
- 1:56:22Speaker 6: go see this movie that's, you know, playing on taking
- 1:56:25Speaker 6: your money.
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: Because you're black.
- 1:56:27Speaker 2: Well, and you have to think, like, there's... At the time,
- 1:56:29Speaker 2: there's two schools of thought. Think about, like, all in
- 1:56:32Speaker 2: the family. There are people who watch Archie Bunker and
- 1:56:35Speaker 2: love Archie Bunker because.
- 1:56:36Speaker 1: They agree with what he's saying. Because they like him.
- 1:56:39Speaker 2: And then there's people that just find it so absurd
- 1:56:42Speaker 2: that he thinks like that. That is why it's funny.
- 1:56:45Speaker 2: It's just, like... Again, it's.
- 1:56:47Speaker 7: That was kind of the genius of that show, is,
- 1:56:50Speaker 7: you know, there are people who cannot express, but they...
- 1:56:57Speaker 7: They feel what they feel. They can't express it, so
- 1:56:59Speaker 7: they don't care that Archie Bunker is generating laughs for
- 1:57:05Speaker 7: people who disagree. That was a good thing.
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: About that show. On the other hand, the more liberal
- 1:57:14Speaker 1: point of view was also this knee-jerk, ridiculous... I don't
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: know where I'm going. It's like people not getting the joke.
- 1:57:25Speaker 6: You know, it's like, I mean, the people writing his
- 1:57:28Speaker 6: character were making a commentary, and were making him an
- 1:57:31Speaker 6: unlikable character, but yet he's our hero.
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: Like, giving him these flaws, knowingly making him a racist.
- 1:57:37Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:57:38Speaker 6: But at the same time, there's people watching it going,
- 1:57:40Speaker 6: that guy's great. They don't get it.
- 1:57:43Speaker 1: It's a joke. They don't realize those are flaws. They
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: think he's a good guy.
- 1:57:46Speaker 2: It's like the reason my mom loves Joy from My
- 1:57:48Speaker 2: Name is Earl.
- 1:57:50Speaker 6: It's not a joke to her. She's awesome. There's no
- 1:57:55Speaker 6: sense of humor involved. She's just a great girl. I
- 1:57:58Speaker 6: don't know what it is about her. I am so
- 1:58:02Speaker 6: proud of her. When I watched My Name is Earl,
- 1:58:05Speaker 6: I'm like... I know there's probably a lot of that
- 1:58:08Speaker 6: in her, Yeah. But at the same time, she just
- 1:58:10Speaker 6: taps into something so good.
- 1:58:12Speaker 1: She's so good. Right. I have no connection to her.
- 1:58:16Speaker 1: I don't have any.
- 1:58:17Speaker 5: Because she could have gone down the skanky actress role.
- 1:58:22Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I mean, she sort of started out that way.
- 1:58:25Speaker 1: She did start out that way.
- 1:58:26Speaker 6: She's doing Poison Ivy straight-to-DVD movies.
- 1:58:29Speaker 5: I don't know, it's kind of like, I'm proud of her.
- 1:58:32Speaker 5: I don't have any attachment to her, but I'm proud
- 1:58:35Speaker 5: of her for how good she is. She's gotten so
- 1:58:39Speaker 5: much better than that stuff that they used to put
- 1:58:41Speaker 5: her in.
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: I want to throw something out there.
- 1:58:44Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:58:46Speaker 5: Because you were talking about blaxploitation and stuff like that,
- 1:58:49Speaker 5: and I was thinking about this. I don't think any
- 1:58:51Speaker 5: of us have really seen a lot of the Tyler
- 1:58:54Speaker 5: Perry films.
- 1:58:56Speaker 1: No, I've kind of avoided them. Right, but I've seen
- 1:58:59Speaker 1: parts and segments.
- 1:59:00Speaker 5: Of them, and there's that African-American theater that over-dramatized traveling
- 1:59:08Speaker 5: theater troops that they.
- 1:59:09Speaker 1: Had, which a lot of his movies are like. Which
- 1:59:11Speaker 1: is ridiculously... Popular. I mean, it's a lot of money.
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: It's why he is who he is today. Exactly. He's
- 1:59:17Speaker 1: the most successful playwright that's ever lived.
- 1:59:19Speaker 6: Right.
- 1:59:19Speaker 1: That's crazy, but that's true.
- 1:59:21Speaker 5: And he does the Madea stuff, and it almost seems
- 1:59:25Speaker 5: like a new, sophisticated blaxploitation.
- 1:59:29Speaker 1: Kind of. I mean, you're putting this out there, it's.
- 1:59:31Speaker 5: Formulaic, we know what it does, and we know they'll
- 1:59:34Speaker 5: come out and buy it.
- 1:59:36Speaker 6: It's playing on an audience, a built-in audience, that he
- 1:59:40Speaker 6: knows he has his fan base, and That's what I
- 1:59:43Speaker 6: don't get with the Medea stuff. I don't know why
- 1:59:46Speaker 6: he dumbs it down like that. Because the other stuff,
- 1:59:49Speaker 6: it's like he's a smart guy. He writes real characters,
- 1:59:54Speaker 6: and these are successful people, and they have jobs and
- 1:59:56Speaker 6: lives and families, and all of that's good. Why don't
- 1:59:58Speaker 6: you just stick with that? Why does he then dumb
- 2:00:01Speaker 6: it down? That just seems downplaying to your audience. I
- 2:00:06Speaker 6: guess it sells, but I'm just like, why not? sell
- 2:00:09Speaker 6: something better to your audience.
- 2:00:11Speaker 1: I don't get that.
- 2:00:11Speaker 5: I almost feel like if I were African American, that
- 2:00:15Speaker 5: I would be insulted like.
- 2:00:16Speaker 1: I'm kind of insulted by it. He knows what he's doing.
- 2:00:19Speaker 1: He knows what he's doing. Yeah.
- 2:00:21Speaker 6: He knows that we'll all go out and buy it.
- 2:00:23Speaker 6: And he's making money off of them. And I'm just like,
- 2:00:25Speaker 6: that seems so wrong.
- 2:00:26Speaker 1: And I know he does great things for the public.
- 2:00:29Speaker 6: He does.
- 2:00:29Speaker 1: And does great things for... I've seen him and I
- 2:00:31Speaker 1: really like When I've seen him in interviews, he's a smart,
- 2:00:35Speaker 1: smart man. He really is. I just feel like there's
- 2:00:38Speaker 1: a certain amount of manipulation. There is. I agree. It
- 2:00:42Speaker 1: really rubs me the wrong way. And I've been manipulated
- 2:00:45Speaker 1: by other things for me as well. Again, there's times
- 2:00:49Speaker 1: when I'm fine with that.
- 2:00:49Speaker 6: Like I said, with the whole sideshow aspect. If he
- 2:00:53Speaker 6: felt like he knew it was a joke and he's
- 2:00:55Speaker 6: playing along with it, but he doesn't. He presents it
- 2:00:57Speaker 6: as though it's serious. And it's sort of duping you
- 2:01:00Speaker 6: in with this Madea slapstick bullshit and taking your money.
- 2:01:04Speaker 6: And I think that is sort of like he's hiding
- 2:01:07Speaker 6: it a little more than he needs.
- 2:01:09Speaker 1: To, I think. I don't know. I think he's.
- 2:01:11Speaker 6: Playing too much on that and bringing people in too
- 2:01:14Speaker 6: much with that when I think he could just as
- 2:01:16Speaker 6: easily write a good screenplay without the slapstick and without
- 2:01:20Speaker 6: the over-the-top bullshit. But, I don't know, I guess that
- 2:01:23Speaker 6: doesn't sell the same, so... Madea goes to jail, makes
- 2:01:27Speaker 6: a million dollars, you know, it's... But he could.
- 2:01:30Speaker 5: Say the same thing of, It's an earnest movie.
- 2:01:33Speaker 1: But those were stupid too. He could say the same thing.
- 2:01:38Speaker 1: Jim Varney, why are you doing this? And I agree.
- 2:01:42Speaker 1: Blue collar comedy. I agree. Nexploitation. Those are dumb. You
- 2:01:48Speaker 1: are a genius. Nexploitation.
- 2:01:51Speaker 6: And I will certainly go on the record and say
- 2:01:53Speaker 6: it's exploiting another audience. And they're dumbing it down and
- 2:01:57Speaker 6: they know those people are going to show up and
- 2:01:58Speaker 6: pay for tickets every damn time.
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: And that's equally as wrong.
- 2:02:03Speaker 6: I think white or black, quit dumbing it down for
- 2:02:06Speaker 6: whatever audience you're going for.
- 2:02:07Speaker 2: It's a lot like the movie Idiocracy.
- 2:02:10Speaker 1: It is. And we're coming to that as a society.
- 2:02:14Speaker 7: You know, you forget when you're around, when you hang
- 2:02:17Speaker 7: out with people who have a sense of humor and
- 2:02:23Speaker 7: some discernment. just how, like, many people there really are
- 2:02:27Speaker 7: who just don't have that.
- 2:02:29Speaker 1: No. And.
- 2:02:30Speaker 6: You have to go with the lowest common denominator for
- 2:02:33Speaker 6: them to get it.
- 2:02:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:02:35Speaker 7: I mean, it surprises me sometimes, like, how many people
- 2:02:38Speaker 7: just don't get jokes. Yeah.
- 2:02:41Speaker 1: Like, really pretty rudimentary jokes.
- 2:02:44Speaker 7: Because, you know, I live in a pretty sheltered world, like,
- 2:02:48Speaker 7: My kids will get jokes. And then, you know, I
- 2:02:53Speaker 7: get out and I'm among people I don't know, and
- 2:02:55Speaker 7: it just surprises me.
- 2:02:57Speaker 1: You know, it's, I guess, culture is not for everybody. Sadly,
- 2:03:04Speaker 1: that's true.
- 2:03:04Speaker 7: There are people in there like really good people, but
- 2:03:08Speaker 7: you can't have anything but the most rudimentary kind of
- 2:03:12Speaker 7: conversation with them. And if you try to say something
- 2:03:15Speaker 7: that's a little bit.
- 2:03:18Speaker 7: Like tongue-in-cheek or facetious, they just get lost.
- 2:03:22Speaker 1: Don't get it or are insulted by it because they
- 2:03:24Speaker 1: got it wrong. Right.
- 2:03:26Speaker 7: I don't know. But, yeah, I mean, a big portion
- 2:03:30Speaker 7: of the population, I guess that's what stuff is dumbed
- 2:03:34Speaker 7: down for is just to keep people on board.
- 2:03:36Speaker 6: And that's why we want a 20-minute motocross race chasing people.
- 2:03:42Speaker 1: Where they work in jumps.
- 2:03:43Speaker 6: And people go, oh, dude, did you see that car jump?
- 2:03:46Speaker 1: That's old, I'm sure.
- 2:03:47Speaker 6: Somewhere in 1972, they thought that was fucking awesome because
- 2:03:51Speaker 6: a police car just wrecked. This was the era when
- 2:03:54Speaker 6: that became the coolest fucking thing in the world.
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: And that's why... The car wrecks in Blue Brothers is funny.
- 2:04:00Speaker 6: Yeah, because, again, it's satire. It's not being serious about it.
- 2:04:05Speaker 6: It knows how stupid it is. That's why it's doing it.
- 2:04:07Speaker 2: That's why, I mean, the term in itself, mainstream, it
- 2:04:11Speaker 2: has such a negative connotation.
- 2:04:12Speaker 1: It should. Those people deserve it.
- 2:04:15Speaker 2: And it's hard to say, but half... And I, as
- 2:04:19Speaker 2: a person who over the weekend, under unfortunate circumstances, had
- 2:04:23Speaker 2: to go to both Walmart and McDonald's.
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: And the tractor pool. And the tractor pool. You kicked
- 2:04:28Speaker 1: off the show. Yeah, this is not making us look good.
- 2:04:31Speaker 2: The majority of the population is... They're fucking morons.
- 2:04:35Speaker 1: Oh, they are. Especially fucking Walmart. Oh, my God.
- 2:04:38Speaker 2: I got approached by this meth addict lady who was like, okay,
- 2:04:42Speaker 2: this is my fault for, A, being in Walmart, being
- 2:04:46Speaker 2: in Walmart after 11 o'clock, and trying to reason with
- 2:04:49Speaker 2: someone who's clearly on drugs. She has a car full
- 2:04:53Speaker 2: of baby stuff, you know? And I'm buying $ 10 worth
- 2:04:58Speaker 2: of stuff. I have a $ 20 bill. She's like, I've
- 2:05:02Speaker 2: got this gift card. My LG and E's about to
- 2:05:04Speaker 2: be cut off. I try to return something. All they
- 2:05:06Speaker 2: gave me is this gift card, and I need the cash.
- 2:05:08Speaker 2: And I was like, I would love to help you out.
- 2:05:11Speaker 2: I have $ 10 worth of things. If you scan your
- 2:05:15Speaker 2: gift card... I only have this $ 20. I cannot give
- 2:05:18Speaker 2: you $ 20 for my $ 10 worth of purchase. That's giving
- 2:05:20Speaker 2: you $ 10. I couldn't explain that to her. She could
- 2:05:24Speaker 2: not understand. I'm like, it's simple fucking mathematics, lady.
- 2:05:29Speaker 1: Okay, that right there is why she doesn't get it.
- 2:05:32Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated. Yeah, but in her defense, earlier tonight,
- 2:05:36Speaker 1: we couldn't buy bagels.
- 2:05:38Speaker 5: Because I didn't have enough change, Brian didn't have the
- 2:05:41Speaker 5: right change, and neither.
- 2:05:42Speaker 1: Did Fred, so we're just like, okay, we'll just owe you.
- 2:05:45Speaker 1: This involves a man. I was going to call my son. Yeah,
- 2:05:49Speaker 1: he was going to call for help. Okay, subtract the
- 2:05:53Speaker 1: bagel holes.
- 2:05:55Speaker 6: Okay, you owe him 13 cents.
- 2:05:59Speaker 1: You're getting pumpernickel.
- 2:06:00Speaker 7: That reminds me of one time I was at a Lowe's,
- 2:06:04Speaker 7: and I was trying to get two pieces of, eight-foot
- 2:06:07Speaker 7: pieces of wood, four-foot pieces of wood, and the four-foot
- 2:06:12Speaker 7: wood didn't have, like, a barcode on it. So the
- 2:06:15Speaker 7: guy there, he'd already been, like, he'd taken a half
- 2:06:18Speaker 7: hour trying to work through the people in front of me.
- 2:06:22Speaker 7: So I was already at the point where I was
- 2:06:23Speaker 7: making a scene and my kids were embarrassed to be
- 2:06:26Speaker 7: seen with me.
- 2:06:27Speaker 1: I was saying stuff like, kids, remember.
- 2:06:32Speaker 7: It was a happier, simpler time before we ever came
- 2:06:35Speaker 7: into this Lowe's.
- 2:06:37Speaker 1: Those were the days.
- 2:06:39Speaker 7: And I get up, and the guy, and he's like, oh,
- 2:06:41Speaker 7: there's not a price on this.
- 2:06:43Speaker 1: We'll have to go.
- 2:06:45Speaker 7: I said, they're four-foot pieces of the same lumber. It's
- 2:06:48Speaker 7: like they add up to the same price as the
- 2:06:51Speaker 7: eight-foot piece. And he looks at me like I'm crazy.
- 2:06:55Speaker 7: I'm like, no, really, I saw the price. It's the
- 2:06:59Speaker 7: same wood.
- 2:07:00Speaker 1: These are four foot. Two of them are the same
- 2:07:02Speaker 1: as an eight foot piece. And he looks at me. Jesus.
- 2:07:06Speaker 1: I ain't got time for this new math. You and
- 2:07:09Speaker 1: your crazy math logic. So he has to like get
- 2:07:12Speaker 1: somebody to go and find. Doesn't matter. You have to
- 2:07:17Speaker 1: have a code. This is the future. You have to
- 2:07:19Speaker 1: have a barcode. Can't do it without a barcode.
- 2:07:23Speaker 6: The system shuts down without the numbers.
- 2:07:25Speaker 2: I looked at Jessica and I was like, I will
- 2:07:27Speaker 2: never let you drag me into Walmart again. I hate
- 2:07:29Speaker 2: you for this.
- 2:07:30Speaker 1: I hate you.
- 2:07:32Speaker 5: Well, that's the other thing you look at and you go,
- 2:07:35Speaker 5: why are you buying baby shit if your power is
- 2:07:36Speaker 5: getting shut off or whatever?
- 2:07:38Speaker 1: Just go home. Save your money.
- 2:07:40Speaker 12: Whatever.
- 2:07:41Speaker 6: Put your money towards keeping the lights on. They don't
- 2:07:44Speaker 6: need new footie pajamas.
- 2:07:46Speaker 2: Well, no, it was like infamil on diapers.
- 2:07:48Speaker 1: All right, I guess you need those.
- 2:07:50Speaker 5: Well, I have no, I'm going to probably get flack
- 2:07:53Speaker 5: for this, but, you know, anybody that is poor that
- 2:07:57Speaker 5: spends money on baby food.
- 2:08:01Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Unless you have a problem, you know.
- 2:08:07Speaker 2: I kind of thought that, too, but then I was
- 2:08:09Speaker 2: just like, this woman is clearly on drugs.
- 2:08:10Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want that in the baby. That would
- 2:08:13Speaker 1: make sense.
- 2:08:13Speaker 7: My daughter and I were wandering around in Cincinnati. She
- 2:08:16Speaker 7: was there for a portfolio review. And this lady came
- 2:08:19Speaker 7: up to us and said she needed money for a
- 2:08:22Speaker 7: grandbaby for formula. It's called Infamil. Okay, I believed you
- 2:08:28Speaker 7: up until you told me the brand name. Because now
- 2:08:31Speaker 7: you're trying to convince me. Yeah, you're working too hard
- 2:08:34Speaker 7: on the story. That's the thing.
- 2:08:37Speaker 1: That's why it's a story.
- 2:08:38Speaker 7: To me, it's like when I'm watching a movie, they're
- 2:08:40Speaker 7: trying to tell you this idea. If they skim wrong,
- 2:08:43Speaker 7: if they tell you the wrong thing, it's like, why
- 2:08:46Speaker 7: are they doing the long list of surgical devices? They're
- 2:08:50Speaker 7: saying it's called infamil... It's like, okay.
- 2:08:53Speaker 1: You're telling me too much. It's a mosquito plant. I
- 2:08:55Speaker 1: don't believe you anymore.
- 2:08:56Speaker 2: Too much information equals a lot.
- 2:08:58Speaker 7: So when she said that, it's like, okay, it's crack,
- 2:09:02Speaker 7: but all I've got is a 20, and I'm not
- 2:09:04Speaker 7: giving you a 20. So then we found some place
- 2:09:07Speaker 7: to get coffee later. You know, I've got wands and stuff.
- 2:09:11Speaker 7: And I see her again. I'm like, here, you can
- 2:09:13Speaker 7: have a couple of wands. Go get your crack.
- 2:09:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I was driving home from somewhere on the weekend once,
- 2:09:21Speaker 2: and it was like 2 in the morning. And this
- 2:09:23Speaker 2: lady tries to stop me at the stop sign and
- 2:09:25Speaker 2: tell me she needs money for her kids. I'm like, lady,
- 2:09:27Speaker 2: it's like 2 in the morning. Your kids need to
- 2:09:30Speaker 2: eat right now?
- 2:09:31Speaker 1: And number two, like.
- 2:09:34Speaker 18: welfare system i mean fuck you you've got it better
- 2:09:38Speaker 18: than me i have to spend twenty thousand dollars a
- 2:09:41Speaker 18: year on college you have to sit in your apartment
- 2:09:44Speaker 18: and let the government feed your kids like all you
- 2:09:47Speaker 18: have to do is like breathe the guy.
- 2:09:50Speaker 7: For money because he's broke he's like you're not broke
- 2:09:57Speaker 7: i've got like $ 17, 000 I owe to Visa.
- 2:10:01Speaker 1: I'm broke. You're even. You're even. You need to take
- 2:10:04Speaker 1: on some responsibility. Work your way up to being broke. Yeah, really.
- 2:10:08Speaker 5: We'll fire you for a credit card and you can
- 2:10:10Speaker 5: give me some money. No, the best, though, was when
- 2:10:12Speaker 5: Brian and I were coming from the Flyover Film Fest.
- 2:10:17Speaker 5: This African-American guy sells out his race. to get a
- 2:10:22Speaker 5: few dollars from me. He gave me this whole story
- 2:10:24Speaker 5: about how he doesn't trust black people in Louisville because
- 2:10:29Speaker 5: they don't care about their own kind and that they
- 2:10:32Speaker 5: won't help him out and that he came to me
- 2:10:34Speaker 5: because he knew he would help.
- 2:10:37Speaker 1: This is an interesting way to look at fiction.
- 2:10:40Speaker 7: It's just what people will make up to tell you
- 2:10:43Speaker 7: to get a few bucks.
- 2:10:44Speaker 1: That is like the purest form of... Of fiction. Right there. Man,
- 2:10:49Speaker 1: I don't... I'm from... Because he found out that I
- 2:10:52Speaker 1: was from Indiana, and he's like, oh, man, I'm from.
- 2:10:56Speaker 5: And he shook my hand, and he's like, I'm glad
- 2:10:58Speaker 5: you're not from Louisville, because I don't trust these black
- 2:11:00Speaker 5: people from Louisville.
- 2:11:00Speaker 1: I'm like, you are selling out your race. First of all,
- 2:11:03Speaker 1: you're selling out your race. Second of all, you know
- 2:11:05Speaker 1: I'm white, right? I'm like, what are you... What?
- 2:11:09Speaker 5: Then he's making up parts of town that he has
- 2:11:11Speaker 5: to get to to catch the bus, and the bus
- 2:11:14Speaker 5: station's like.
- 2:11:15Speaker 1: A block away.
- 2:11:16Speaker 6: And he's trying to get to, yeah, the Greyhound. And
- 2:11:18Speaker 6: he named this little town he's from. I'm like, dude,
- 2:11:20Speaker 6: Greyhound does not go to that town. I can tell
- 2:11:23Speaker 6: you now.
- 2:11:23Speaker 7: One of my favorite local hobos just comes up and
- 2:11:27Speaker 7: says like, Yeah, man, I ain't going to kid you.
- 2:11:30Speaker 7: I just want to get a beer or something to drink.
- 2:11:32Speaker 1: I'm like, all right. I would give that person money
- 2:11:34Speaker 1: for anyone. It's a worthy cause.
- 2:11:37Speaker 6: I understand that one. I'm not on board with it,
- 2:11:40Speaker 6: but at least you're telling the truth.
- 2:11:42Speaker 1: Well, it depends.
- 2:11:43Speaker 7: I mean, it's his tone, too, because I remember once
- 2:11:46Speaker 7: in Milwaukee, like I was stopped there, and I've got
- 2:11:48Speaker 7: about an hour to find something to eat, and I
- 2:11:50Speaker 7: had like a thing that I liked to get back then.
- 2:11:53Speaker 1: So I'm walking around, and this guy says, man, I
- 2:11:56Speaker 1: need a pack of cigarettes.
- 2:11:57Speaker 15: Oh, my God.
- 2:11:58Speaker 1: Yeah, I need a spinach salad. I'm trying to... Can
- 2:12:01Speaker 1: you tell me if I can get a spinach salad?
- 2:12:04Speaker 1: And then we'll talk about your package. That will probably
- 2:12:09Speaker 1: shut every one of them down. No matter what. I've
- 2:12:12Speaker 1: got needs. What about my needs? No matter what they're
- 2:12:16Speaker 1: asking for, that will probably stop it. Fuck, I don't know.
- 2:12:20Speaker 16: Leave me alone.
- 2:12:21Speaker 2: I'm going to do that next time anyone asks me
- 2:12:23Speaker 2: for money. If they're like....
- 2:12:26Speaker 1: Man, I need this.
- 2:12:27Speaker 2: I'm probably like, I have $ 12, 000 worth of medical debt.
- 2:12:30Speaker 2: I have $ 40, 000 worth of student loan debt. And I
- 2:12:34Speaker 2: work 40 hours a week to pay for your children
- 2:12:38Speaker 2: to eat. How about you give me a fucking dollar, asshole?
- 2:12:44Speaker 1: And a spinach salad.
- 2:12:47Speaker 7: Go give me one now it doesn't bother me so
- 2:12:49Speaker 7: much as like if you pull through a mcdonald's and
- 2:12:52Speaker 7: ronald mcdonald is asking me if i want to donate
- 2:12:55Speaker 7: some money what the fuck ronald i think you got
- 2:12:59Speaker 7: a few bags of money.
- 2:13:00Speaker 1: Down there somewhere what are.
- 2:13:02Speaker 6: You asking me for and i like when they ask
- 2:13:05Speaker 6: you now it's not even like one of the other
- 2:13:07Speaker 6: one of the yum brands just kind of went that
- 2:13:09Speaker 6: like it wasn't even like the ronald just has that
- 2:13:11Speaker 6: cup up there on the mountain on the wall but
- 2:13:13Speaker 6: like Yeah, the one while I was still at the
- 2:13:15Speaker 6: drive-thru went, would you like to donate a dollar to it?
- 2:13:18Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'd like to donate a dollar
- 2:13:20Speaker 1: to another taco, bitch. It's like, hook me up with one.
- 2:13:25Speaker 6: I'm scraping together pennies to buy a dollar menu item.
- 2:13:29Speaker 1: Why am I donating money to anybody? I might not
- 2:13:32Speaker 1: eat tomorrow.
- 2:13:33Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:13:33Speaker 6: I'm like, if I had real money, I wouldn't be
- 2:13:35Speaker 6: at the dollar menu, now would I? Yeah.
- 2:13:38Speaker 1: I had to dig for change. Jesus.
- 2:13:40Speaker 2: I don't think I ever fully appreciated the irony of some, like,
- 2:13:45Speaker 2: megalo corporation, like, asking you for money to support a charity.
- 2:13:49Speaker 2: Fuck that shit. I'm going to protest that. I'm protesting.
- 2:13:53Speaker 2: Sorry to protest.
- 2:13:54Speaker 1: Oh, Lord.
- 2:13:55Speaker 6: Right.
- 2:13:56Speaker 1: No, I'll give you the money. That's just the thing.
- 2:13:58Speaker 5: We give them the money, and they use that money,
- 2:14:01Speaker 5: and they write off that money because they donated it
- 2:14:04Speaker 5: for them.
- 2:14:05Speaker 1: I'm going to donate it, and I'm going to write
- 2:14:07Speaker 1: it off.
- 2:14:07Speaker 2: I mean, you know those boxes they have attached to
- 2:14:09Speaker 2: the drive-thru at McDonald's? They probably spent like $ 8, 000 for
- 2:14:11Speaker 2: that box.
- 2:14:13Speaker 1: Right, right. For the research and development to find out
- 2:14:17Speaker 1: if that would work.
- 2:14:18Speaker 2: What cars would appeal to you and your sympathy to
- 2:14:20Speaker 2: make you want.
- 2:14:21Speaker 1: To drive it? Yeah, that's, yeah. Give me that number.
- 2:14:24Speaker 1: All they need to do is send a guy around
- 2:14:26Speaker 1: once a day to pick up the change that gets
- 2:14:28Speaker 1: dropped out that window. Yeah, really. People go, I ain't
- 2:14:32Speaker 1: getting that. That's like 42 cents. Fuck it. I don't know.
- 2:14:36Speaker 2: What's wrong with America?
- 2:14:37Speaker 1: Is it a quarter? Nah, I ain't getting it. Whatever.
- 2:14:40Speaker 1: I didn't drop a dollar. I mean, fuck it.
- 2:14:43Speaker 5: You know, I'm going to start working at a drive-thru
- 2:14:46Speaker 5: and I'm going to intentionally drop everybody's change.
- 2:14:49Speaker 1: I'll make more money than anybody. I was like, no,
- 2:14:51Speaker 1: I don't need to get paid. At the end of
- 2:14:53Speaker 1: my shift, I'm going to go get a broom and
- 2:14:54Speaker 1: sweep up. His car is driving over a pile of change.
- 2:14:58Speaker 1: Because nobody's going to get out of it.
- 2:15:04Speaker 5: If you're too lazy to go inside to get your burger,
- 2:15:06Speaker 5: you're too lazy to get out of your car to
- 2:15:08Speaker 5: get a change.
- 2:15:09Speaker 2: That's a brilliant point. That's way more effective than short-changing people.
- 2:15:13Speaker 1: It's like, sorry about your shit.
- 2:15:20Speaker 5: Don't just drop it, just throw it down.
- 2:15:23Speaker 7: For those of y'all listening, that's a lot funnier with
- 2:15:26Speaker 7: the gesture.
- 2:15:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget that we're a podcast. The gesture really
- 2:15:31Speaker 1: sort of tops that off.
- 2:15:33Speaker 2: We need to be a television show.
- 2:15:35Speaker 1: No, we don't.
- 2:15:36Speaker 2: Or a fucking public access channel.
- 2:15:38Speaker 6: As long as you can fund it, because that takes
- 2:15:40Speaker 6: a hell of a lot more money.
- 2:15:42Speaker 7: Well, what we need is just like somebody who will
- 2:15:44Speaker 7: translate for the visually impaired.
- 2:15:49Speaker 1: Is Garrett Morris out there? Here's a podcast for the
- 2:15:53Speaker 1: hard of hearing.
- 2:15:54Speaker 7: Greg is making a large hand gesture of throwing money
- 2:16:01Speaker 7: very demonstrative.
- 2:16:04Speaker 2: That would actually be quite bad because in addition to
- 2:16:09Speaker 2: Misty and I worrying about how we sound on air,
- 2:16:11Speaker 2: we'd be worried about how we look.
- 2:16:13Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Nobody wants to look at me. Again, there's
- 2:16:15Speaker 1: a reason we're a podcast.
- 2:16:16Speaker 7: And I was worried about how I sound. Like, right
- 2:16:19Speaker 7: before I came over here, I said, I'm going to
- 2:16:21Speaker 7: try to make my voice sound a little more pleasant
- 2:16:23Speaker 7: because there's this, like, lazy drag in my voice. And
- 2:16:28Speaker 7: my wife is like, mm-hmm. I'm like, oh, thanks.
- 2:16:31Speaker 1: Thanks. There's your spouse for you.
- 2:16:36Speaker 2: I mean, this is true for everybody, but I sound
- 2:16:38Speaker 2: completely different on air than I do in my head.
- 2:16:40Speaker 2: So I hear my voice, I'm like, God, that's what
- 2:16:43Speaker 2: I sound like.
- 2:16:44Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, I think I'm about the same.
- 2:16:46Speaker 2: Everyone thinks that. Well, everyone thinks that they sound different
- 2:16:50Speaker 2: other than you.
- 2:16:50Speaker 1: Right, other than me.
- 2:16:52Speaker 7: I can sound like I sound in my head, but
- 2:16:55Speaker 7: I have to make an effort to do it.
- 2:16:57Speaker 6: I think I've just listened to myself so much now
- 2:16:59Speaker 6: that I've started to replace that.
- 2:17:01Speaker 1: With how I actually sound.
- 2:17:02Speaker 5: All I know is I think I'm a lot more
- 2:17:04Speaker 5: intelligent in my head than I am in the real world.
- 2:17:06Speaker 1: You go back and listen to the show and go,
- 2:17:07Speaker 1: who is this dumbass? Oh, wait, that's me.
- 2:17:10Speaker 7: I think I'm a lot funnier in my head than
- 2:17:12Speaker 7: I really am. Although, I think I'm funnier as soon
- 2:17:16Speaker 7: as we stop a segment, and then I get funny
- 2:17:19Speaker 7: for a while, and then we start again.
- 2:17:21Speaker 1: It's a shame you guys are missing out at home.
- 2:17:24Speaker 1: That what I should have said moment is like, oh,
- 2:17:27Speaker 1: I would have been so funny.
- 2:17:29Speaker 6: We'll give that to Garrett, too. So while you were gone,
- 2:17:32Speaker 6: Fred said some really funny shit. Can we get Garrett
- 2:17:37Speaker 6: Morris on the show? I wish we could, because that
- 2:17:39Speaker 6: guy's awesome.
- 2:17:41Speaker 1: Garrett Morris is hilarious. I think when I was.
- 2:17:44Speaker 7: In a hotel somewhere, I saw him on some made-for-kids movie.
- 2:17:48Speaker 1: He still does?
- 2:17:49Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 2:17:50Speaker 1: Up in stuff, yeah.
- 2:17:51Speaker 6: He's still a character actor out there, and I wish
- 2:17:54Speaker 6: he would turn up in more stuff, because he is hilarious.
- 2:17:56Speaker 2: Ain't it? I mean, I have those, like, being dumber
- 2:17:59Speaker 2: speaking than I am in my head. Like, I was in, like,
- 2:18:02Speaker 2: my sociology class the other day, and I'm already self-conscious
- 2:18:05Speaker 2: because I'm the oldest fucking person in the class. Everyone's, like, 18.
- 2:18:09Speaker 2: I'm like, look at you guys going to college right
- 2:18:14Speaker 2: after high school.
- 2:18:15Speaker 1: Stupid. Going right to college. Idiots.
- 2:18:19Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 2:18:20Speaker 1: You don't know nothing about life.
- 2:18:22Speaker 2: I said something, like, that was, like, a intelligent, like,
- 2:18:26Speaker 2: valid thought, and it just, like, fizzled off, like, halfway
- 2:18:30Speaker 2: through my sentence, and I just, like, stopped talking.
- 2:18:33Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't remember what I was going to say.
- 2:18:36Speaker 1: The less you can say, the smarter you sound.
- 2:18:39Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 2:18:39Speaker 1: As we ramble on four hours later.
- 2:18:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:18:43Speaker 1: We don't put on airs. We know who we saw.
- 2:18:46Speaker 6: As our movie discussion has devolved into making fun of
- 2:18:50Speaker 6: Ronald McDonald and The welfare system.
- 2:18:53Speaker 1: Making hand gestures on a podcast, you know.
- 2:18:58Speaker 2: Watch this.
- 2:18:59Speaker 1: It's different than the one we usually make.
- 2:19:01Speaker 2: Who was it that said you're watching Movie Meltdown?
- 2:19:04Speaker 1: Several people.
- 2:19:05Speaker 6: I've got a collection of people saying you're watching Movie Meltdown.
- 2:19:09Speaker 1: Oh, man. So, the thing with two heads. How would
- 2:19:12Speaker 1: you like to wrap that up?
- 2:19:14Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do it.
- 2:19:17Speaker 1: Again, I think there's a great premise there.
- 2:19:19Speaker 6: I think it could have been a great 70s exploitation
- 2:19:23Speaker 6: campy comedy, and they don't play on the comedy. It
- 2:19:27Speaker 6: never becomes the comedy it should have been. It tries
- 2:19:30Speaker 6: to be an action movie. It tries to be a
- 2:19:33Speaker 6: I don't know. It doesn't even try to play up
- 2:19:35Speaker 6: the exploitation, really. It doesn't even address any of the
- 2:19:38Speaker 6: black-white issues that it's banking on in this.
- 2:19:41Speaker 1: So, yeah, I think that's the problem, is it never
- 2:19:43Speaker 1: delivers on any of.
- 2:19:44Speaker 6: These things it throws out there and touches on and
- 2:19:49Speaker 6: never follows through with.
- 2:19:50Speaker 7: It's amazing just how lazy it is.
- 2:19:53Speaker 1: It was lazy.
- 2:19:53Speaker 7: It's just ridiculously lazy. The conception of the story is
- 2:19:57Speaker 7: so lazy. But then, like any movie, it had to
- 2:20:00Speaker 7: be so much time and work and effort to go out.
- 2:20:04Speaker 1: Setting up this fucking chase scene. I mean, doing... Although, did.
- 2:20:07Speaker 5: You notice with the one car wreck that went down
- 2:20:10Speaker 5: the hill and rolled, they showed it from four.
- 2:20:13Speaker 1: Different angles and made it look like it was four
- 2:20:15Speaker 1: different wrecks? I was like, hey, he's hiding in the trees. Oh,
- 2:20:18Speaker 1: because they had to shoot it from that angle.
- 2:20:20Speaker 2: That was kind of a creative use of.
- 2:20:23Speaker 1: I mean, they had a few.
- 2:20:25Speaker 6: At the very beginning, when you get the gorilla run
- 2:20:28Speaker 6: past that crazy swooping around camera angle, again, that was
- 2:20:32Speaker 6: in the beginning where I was like, okay, are we
- 2:20:34Speaker 6: in for something kind.
- 2:20:35Speaker 1: Of visually interesting? Because that one shot was cool, and
- 2:20:39Speaker 1: then it stops.
- 2:20:40Speaker 5: When all the people were running out of the store,
- 2:20:43Speaker 5: it's almost like they're down in a manhole.
- 2:20:45Speaker 1: Shooting that angle, and it just looks so... I mean,
- 2:20:47Speaker 1: it's a really neat shot. And I was like, this is...
- 2:20:50Speaker 1: Well made.
- 2:20:51Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a minute where it had potential and
- 2:20:53Speaker 6: then it all went to hell.
- 2:20:54Speaker 2: The part I think there, it's like when they first
- 2:20:56Speaker 2: get on that motorbike and it's like you're, the camera
- 2:21:00Speaker 2: is like on the bike and, you know, it, what
- 2:21:03Speaker 2: was it? You remember that ride at the River Falls Mall?
- 2:21:05Speaker 2: The simulator?
- 2:21:06Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 2:21:07Speaker 2: That's what it felt like. I'm like, oh, man, it's
- 2:21:09Speaker 2: going to be a fucking simulator movie. But it wasn't,
- 2:21:12Speaker 2: thank God.
- 2:21:13Speaker 1: Another one of those.
- 2:21:14Speaker 6: Instead it was a mannequin strapped to a dirt bike
- 2:21:17Speaker 6: for a half hour.
- 2:21:18Speaker 1: With another person. With another mannequin head strapped onto the side.
- 2:21:23Speaker 5: You would think that that would be the, oh my god,
- 2:21:26Speaker 5: look how bad this.
- 2:21:28Speaker 1: you know, this fake head is on this person. And
- 2:21:30Speaker 1: I liked those scenes. Those parts.
- 2:21:33Speaker 2: It was a very good fake head.
- 2:21:35Speaker 6: And actually, yeah, when they were doing the surgery, that
- 2:21:37Speaker 6: was a good fake head. You could tell it was fake,
- 2:21:40Speaker 6: but I was like, that's where their budget went.
- 2:21:42Speaker 1: Right. Because it was, like, moving at points. Yeah.
- 2:21:44Speaker 6: And then, like, it really did look just like that actor.
- 2:21:47Speaker 6: And then when they put it on, there was a
- 2:21:49Speaker 6: pretty good switch over. Like, that part was well done. Again,
- 2:21:53Speaker 6: it's a shame it's in the rest of this horrible put-together... project,
- 2:21:57Speaker 6: but yeah, that fake head they had in those scenes,
- 2:22:01Speaker 6: they weren't badly done for the budget.
- 2:22:04Speaker 1: They were on.
- 2:22:05Speaker 5: Even when it was the two of them and they
- 2:22:06Speaker 5: were showing it, I mean, you could tell, yes, he
- 2:22:09Speaker 5: was piggybacking on it, but it still looked.
- 2:22:13Speaker 1: I don't know. It still looked alright.
- 2:22:14Speaker 6: Again, that could have been not the problem. If what
- 2:22:18Speaker 6: they were saying was intelligent, if they had decent back
- 2:22:21Speaker 6: and forth, that could have been the least of their problems.
- 2:22:25Speaker 1: Oh, at least the screenplay is good.
- 2:22:27Speaker 6: This head looks stupid, but it's 1972.
- 2:22:30Speaker 1: They can't afford to CGI. And it hasn't been invented yet.
- 2:22:33Speaker 1: I just wish they would have picked a style and
- 2:22:35Speaker 1: just stuck with it. That's the thing. They never commit.
- 2:22:38Speaker 7: The wind-up for me is that It's frustrating because it
- 2:22:43Speaker 7: should be inspiring, but it's depressing.
- 2:22:45Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
- 2:22:46Speaker 7: It should inspire me because people actually bothered.
- 2:22:49Speaker 1: To make this movie. I should be making the movies
- 2:22:52Speaker 1: I want to make. I should be doing something with
- 2:22:54Speaker 1: the movies I want to make. But instead, it just
- 2:22:56Speaker 1: depresses me. Because this got made. It's like, yeah. You're
- 2:22:59Speaker 1: not doing anything. This got made, and.
- 2:23:04Speaker 1: And I'm still, you know, planning to get this one
- 2:23:11Speaker 1: thing done.
- 2:23:14Speaker 2: Here's another thing that pissed me off about this movie.
- 2:23:18Speaker 2: Why is there a fucking, like, full-length mirror in this
- 2:23:21Speaker 2: science lab?
- 2:23:22Speaker 1: Why? In a basement? In a basement.
- 2:23:24Speaker 2: Science lab?
- 2:23:26Speaker 1: Why? So they can have that shot where he looks
- 2:23:29Speaker 1: in the mirror.
- 2:23:29Speaker 6: As I saw it in the beginning, I was like,
- 2:23:32Speaker 6: I guess that mirror's there so he can look at
- 2:23:34Speaker 6: himself when he's got two heads.
- 2:23:35Speaker 1: I saw it coming in the.
- 2:23:36Speaker 6: Setup as they're covering up the mirror.
- 2:23:39Speaker 1: I was like, well, I guess I know when we're
- 2:23:40Speaker 1: going to use that.
- 2:23:41Speaker 5: Why does everybody always buy those cheap shelving that you
- 2:23:44Speaker 5: push over one and they all fall?
- 2:23:46Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Why wouldn't you place them just
- 2:23:47Speaker 1: out of reach of each other?
- 2:23:49Speaker 2: I was going to say it's IKEA.
- 2:23:50Speaker 1: Has nobody played with dominoes? Put them just out of reach.
- 2:23:54Speaker 6: Place them a little further so one falls down and totally, aw,
- 2:23:57Speaker 6: you totally fucked that up.
- 2:23:58Speaker 1: Mount it to the floor, come on.
- 2:24:02Speaker 2: God, even Ikea comes with brackets to attach shit to
- 2:24:05Speaker 2: the wall.
- 2:24:06Speaker 1: We didn't have Ikea back then. Those things you throw
- 2:24:08Speaker 1: on the floor? Yeah, just extra parts.
- 2:24:11Speaker 2: Well, see, I only learned what it is because I
- 2:24:13Speaker 2: actually saved mine, and one day I came home and
- 2:24:15Speaker 2: my bookshelf was tilted at a 45-degree angle, and the
- 2:24:19Speaker 2: bottom was still flat. It was just for some reason tilting,
- 2:24:21Speaker 2: like it was going to fall on me. It would
- 2:24:23Speaker 2: fall right on my bed right where my head is.
- 2:24:26Speaker 2: So I was like, I think this is a bracket
- 2:24:29Speaker 2: to secure it to the wall, and I'm going to
- 2:24:30Speaker 2: make use of that.
- 2:24:31Speaker 1: You would own it. You may have seen your own one.
- 2:24:34Speaker 1: You're your own hero.
- 2:24:36Speaker 7: You owe yourself your life. You're going to have to
- 2:24:39Speaker 7: be your own slave from now on.
- 2:24:41Speaker 2: I know this is running on forever, but I have
- 2:24:43Speaker 2: to include this for Randy. I know you read about
- 2:24:45Speaker 2: it on my Facebook page, but last Wednesday, I'm walking
- 2:24:50Speaker 2: my dog.
- 2:24:50Speaker 1: I hear this sound. I did read about this.
- 2:24:52Speaker 2: I hear this sound.
- 2:24:53Speaker 1: Do we need to officially make this a Marlena? All right.
- 2:24:56Speaker 1: Play the music.
- 2:24:58Speaker 2: I'm walking my dog, and I hear this sound. And
- 2:25:03Speaker 2: it doesn't even... It doesn't sound human. I don't know
- 2:25:05Speaker 2: what the hell it was.
- 2:25:06Speaker 1: It was like.
- 2:25:07Speaker 2: I thought it was like a dying cat. And I
- 2:25:10Speaker 2: was like, no, I already got my cat out of
- 2:25:12Speaker 2: that garage today. So I know it's not the cat.
- 2:25:16Speaker 2: And then I'm like walking my dog. And I see
- 2:25:19Speaker 2: my neighbor, my 80-year-old neighbor, who normally sits outside with
- 2:25:23Speaker 2: a shotgun. He had been... I guess he'd been tending
- 2:25:25Speaker 2: to his garden. And he's got like... The whole yard
- 2:25:27Speaker 2: is full of sheds. There's like 10 sheds. I don't
- 2:25:30Speaker 2: know why, but... He's, like, a shed hoarder. And there's, like,
- 2:25:34Speaker 2: this old camper trailer right next to where he grows his, like,
- 2:25:37Speaker 2: vegetable garden. And his feet are, like, trapped under it.
- 2:25:43Speaker 2: And I'm like.
- 2:25:44Speaker 1: Did you steal his ruby slippers?
- 2:25:47Speaker 2: I'm like, are you okay? He goes, no, honey, I'm
- 2:25:50Speaker 2: not okay. I'm trapped. And I was like, oh, my God.
- 2:25:55Speaker 2: And then I'm, like, standing there. I'm like, what the
- 2:25:58Speaker 2: fuck am I going to do? I don't know. You know,
- 2:26:00Speaker 2: in one of those moments, you're just like, oh, hello.
- 2:26:03Speaker 2: And he's like, knock on the door and get my wife.
- 2:26:06Speaker 2: So I knocked on the door and got his wife.
- 2:26:07Speaker 1: She's not panicked at all. She's not even concerned.
- 2:26:11Speaker 2: She's just like, what did you do this time?
- 2:26:14Speaker 1: You get yourself in some shit. Yeah, exactly. It was
- 2:26:18Speaker 1: rosy green. Yeah. Honey, I'm trapped under the shed again.
- 2:26:24Speaker 2: She's like, she gets her cell phone out and then
- 2:26:27Speaker 2: she's like calling someone who apparently lives like half an
- 2:26:30Speaker 2: hour away to come like get this thing that's like
- 2:26:34Speaker 2: literally crushing his feet. I mean, it crushed his feet. Wow.
- 2:26:40Speaker 2: And she's like, they'll be here in about 20 minutes.
- 2:26:42Speaker 2: And he's like, get the jack, get the jack. And
- 2:26:44Speaker 2: I look everywhere. There's seven fucking sheds. I have to
- 2:26:47Speaker 2: look through these sheds. He's like, I think it's under
- 2:26:49Speaker 2: this table. And this table is like a rickety wooden
- 2:26:54Speaker 2: table covered with like a tarp and like 10,000 tractor tires.
- 2:26:58Speaker 7: And it falls on your feet.
- 2:27:00Speaker 1: Ironically.
- 2:27:02Speaker 2: No, but I have to dig through. I'm wearing a dress.
- 2:27:05Speaker 2: I have to go to class in a couple of minutes.
- 2:27:08Speaker 2: I don't have my dog leashes in my hand, but
- 2:27:10Speaker 2: I'm digging through this table full of, like, tractor tires.
- 2:27:14Speaker 7: Like a dog paddle ingestion.
- 2:27:17Speaker 1: Marlena is making dog paddle ingestions.
- 2:27:19Speaker 2: This is how I dig their tires. And I finally find, after, like,
- 2:27:25Speaker 2: ten minutes, I find the jack, and it's, like, invented
- 2:27:28Speaker 2: before cars were invented.
- 2:27:30Speaker 1: Which is really weird. That's right. He was a jack
- 2:27:35Speaker 1: for carriages.
- 2:27:36Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's a horse and buggy jack.
- 2:27:38Speaker 1: It's an Amish jack.
- 2:27:39Speaker 2: An Amish jack. It weighed like 8,000 pounds. And I
- 2:27:42Speaker 2: had to drag it over to where the trailer is.
- 2:27:45Speaker 2: And then it's like.
- 2:27:46Speaker 7: She's making dragging motions.
- 2:27:47Speaker 2: I'm a very visual person. And then I realized there's
- 2:27:53Speaker 2: no handle for it, so I have to go dig
- 2:27:54Speaker 2: through the tires again and find the handle for the jack.
- 2:27:56Speaker 7: Okay, it's the dog paddling gesture.
- 2:28:01Speaker 2: And then I come back to the neighbor. And I, like,
- 2:28:06Speaker 2: position the jack under, like, the hitch of the trailer.
- 2:28:10Speaker 2: And he's old. He's really hard to understand. So he's
- 2:28:14Speaker 2: trying to explain to me how to use this jack.
- 2:28:16Speaker 2: I've never fucking used a jack. I always make Jessica
- 2:28:18Speaker 2: change my tires.
- 2:28:20Speaker 1: That's what she's there for. It is. Bitch, do my work.
- 2:28:22Speaker 2: Yeah. And so... I have to learn how to use
- 2:28:26Speaker 2: this jack on my own. And it wasn't easy. It was, like,
- 2:28:29Speaker 2: very complicated. And I, like, lift the jack up and
- 2:28:33Speaker 2: finally free him. And his feet are crushed. It was
- 2:28:37Speaker 2: really sad. He's been in the hospital ever since.
- 2:28:40Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 2:28:41Speaker 2: And his wife said he has to get pins in
- 2:28:43Speaker 2: both of his feet and his ankles. It, like, shattered
- 2:28:48Speaker 2: his ankles somehow.
- 2:28:51Speaker 7: My brother was supposed to get a pin in his
- 2:28:53Speaker 7: ankle and he didn't do it. He left the hospital
- 2:28:55Speaker 7: on crutches and I thought he was crazy and an
- 2:28:58Speaker 7: idiot because he is both of those things. But a
- 2:29:01Speaker 7: year later his foot is fine and he asked the
- 2:29:03Speaker 7: doctor should he have got a metal rod put in
- 2:29:06Speaker 7: his ankle.
- 2:29:06Speaker 1: The doctor said only if you want a metal rod
- 2:29:09Speaker 1: in your ankle. Wow.
- 2:29:11Speaker 2: Wow.
- 2:29:12Speaker 1: So you are a hero. Yes, I was a.
- 2:29:15Speaker 2: Hero that day. And like I said, I didn't even
- 2:29:17Speaker 2: get my dress dirty somehow, and it's like I'm using this, like,
- 2:29:22Speaker 2: turn of the century car jack and it's covered in
- 2:29:25Speaker 2: grease and my dogs are like what.
- 2:29:27Speaker 18: The fuck i was going to poop what are we.
- 2:29:31Speaker 2: Doing you know like i was afraid my puppy was
- 2:29:34Speaker 2: gonna pee on him the whole time like please it'd
- 2:29:38Speaker 2: be such a bad time this little man is trapped
- 2:29:41Speaker 2: here don't pee on his leg yeah.
- 2:29:42Speaker 1: But You know, after what you did.
- 2:29:46Speaker 7: If your dog wants to pee on him.
- 2:29:49Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to let that slide. Yeah, let that slide.
- 2:29:53Speaker 1: Can you come out?
- 2:29:53Speaker 5: My dog needs to pee.
- 2:29:59Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was the craziest thing that probably happened
- 2:30:02Speaker 2: to me.
- 2:30:02Speaker 1: What would have been awesome is if you could somehow
- 2:30:04Speaker 1: have had.
- 2:30:05Speaker 13: $ 6 million man sound effects.
- 2:30:09Speaker 1: Like, as you're doing the jack, as you're doing the rubble.
- 2:30:13Speaker 1: That would have been awesome. Let me clarify this.
- 2:30:18Speaker 7: It's kind of like a little dinosaur hand dog paddling gesture.
- 2:30:22Speaker 1: A Tyrannosaurus trying to swim up trees for birds, too.
- 2:30:27Speaker 1: I'm looking for an Amish Jack in a shed. Imagine
- 2:30:30Speaker 1: how many of these guys are.
- 2:30:32Speaker 2: He's like, oh, fuck, this is the person who's going
- 2:30:35Speaker 2: to help me.
- 2:30:36Speaker 1: God, I'm going to die. I'm giving you the thrashing
- 2:30:40Speaker 1: of your life. Oh, shit.
- 2:30:46Speaker 2: The worst part is, I lifted that jack up there,
- 2:30:49Speaker 2: just like, well, okay, and I just walked away.
- 2:30:52Speaker 1: See you later. See you later. Go to class. Peace.
- 2:30:56Speaker 1: I'm out. Have fun with your broken feet.
- 2:31:01Speaker 2: His wife had brought him a wheelchair. But I mean,
- 2:31:03Speaker 2: I decided my assistance was no longer needed and I
- 2:31:07Speaker 2: walked away.
- 2:31:07Speaker 7: That's awkward, but you've got to do what you've got
- 2:31:10Speaker 7: to do. It's awkward to have to exactly, precisely define
- 2:31:14Speaker 7: the boundaries of how much you can afford to care
- 2:31:17Speaker 7: about a situation.
- 2:31:19Speaker 1: But sometimes you have to do that. I mean, or
- 2:31:22Speaker 1: you just can't do anything. It's like, I don't want
- 2:31:25Speaker 1: to get.
- 2:31:25Speaker 7: In here and start helping because then I'm going to
- 2:31:28Speaker 7: have to admit the point where I can't, I just
- 2:31:31Speaker 7: can't do it anymore. That reminds me of a story
- 2:31:33Speaker 7: I heard on a different podcast that I won't name,
- 2:31:37Speaker 7: but it was a amusement park story. It was about
- 2:31:41Speaker 7: a woman who went into, she just called in and
- 2:31:44Speaker 7: told this story of how she went into like one
- 2:31:47Speaker 7: of the haunted house things at an amusement park and
- 2:31:50Speaker 7: she went in and there was a midget standing there
- 2:31:52Speaker 7: and she started screaming and then the midget looked at
- 2:31:55Speaker 7: her and started screaming because she was screaming at him
- 2:31:58Speaker 7: and after a minute or two they realized that Neither
- 2:32:02Speaker 7: of them were part of the show. They were both
- 2:32:05Speaker 7: just waiting to go in. And so they pretended like
- 2:32:10Speaker 7: it hadn't happened.
- 2:32:12Speaker 2: I've had that happen to me.
- 2:32:14Speaker 1: That's your best strategy at that point.
- 2:32:15Speaker 2: It was with children. Children are less likely to disguise
- 2:32:19Speaker 2: their feelings. I had braces, and it was like... Halloween
- 2:32:25Speaker 2: corn maze thing. The moon was shining very brightly and
- 2:32:28Speaker 2: probably reflecting.
- 2:32:29Speaker 1: Off the fabric. A Halloween porn-based thing? A corn maze.
- 2:32:32Speaker 1: A corn maze. She's a kid. She had braces.
- 2:32:36Speaker 6: It's a Halloween kiddie porn. This is a scary scenario already.
- 2:32:42Speaker 7: I didn't hear the words. I misread the gestures.
- 2:32:46Speaker 1: Marlena is making a porn gesture.
- 2:32:50Speaker 2: Every hand gesture I make, I could be doing anything.
- 2:32:54Speaker 2: It's always this.
- 2:32:57Speaker 1: Now she's really making a hand gesture. That's what it is.
- 2:33:01Speaker 2: Anything I'm doing, I could be baking a cake. I
- 2:33:04Speaker 2: could be, like, basketball.
- 2:33:06Speaker 1: I don't know. You could be, like, working an Amish jack.
- 2:33:09Speaker 1: Working an Amish jack.
- 2:33:11Speaker 6: It's that muscle memory thing. That's the new code I'm
- 2:33:14Speaker 6: going to start using. I need somebody to work my Amish.
- 2:33:17Speaker 1: I'm just rescuing an old man. I don't know.
- 2:33:23Speaker 2: I'm not even going to try to... You know what's
- 2:33:28Speaker 2: very ironic about the Amish thing and the broken foot thing?
- 2:33:32Speaker 2: Like the... And Sunday before that, I went to Amishtown
- 2:33:36Speaker 2: and was talking to this Amish girl named Barbara.
- 2:33:38Speaker 1: Amishtown? Is that over by Chinatown? Head down to Amishtown.
- 2:33:43Speaker 1: It's a neighborhood in Louisville. Amishtown? They don't have any
- 2:33:47Speaker 1: street lights. They don't have any street lights.
- 2:33:49Speaker 2: Power lines.
- 2:33:50Speaker 7: No.
- 2:33:51Speaker 1: Cable company can't get in there.
- 2:33:53Speaker 2: It's like an Amishtown past Madison, Indiana. And I was
- 2:33:57Speaker 2: talking to this Amish girl, Barbara, that was selling tomatoes,
- 2:34:01Speaker 2: and her foot had been crushed by a horse. So,
- 2:34:04Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of like a weird.
- 2:34:06Speaker 5: Maybe they had a jack to raise that foot up.
- 2:34:10Speaker 2: That's just weird synchronicity, I guess.
- 2:34:12Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:34:12Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 2:34:13Speaker 7: Her foot had been crushed by a horse.
- 2:34:16Speaker 5: Fred is making the Rescue the Old Man gesture.
- 2:34:19Speaker 1: The Amish butter churn jack action. Jack-tion.
- 2:34:24Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, so.
- 2:34:30Speaker 1: We don't do this for anyone's benefit.
- 2:34:31Speaker 6: Obviously not.
- 2:34:34Speaker 2: That's what happened to me.
- 2:34:35Speaker 7: You know what would be really great is like this
- 2:34:38Speaker 7: being watched through the window here.
- 2:34:40Speaker 6: Right.
- 2:34:41Speaker 1: There's a nice restaurant across the street.
- 2:34:43Speaker 7: The guy sitting in the big big chair is watching this.
- 2:34:46Speaker 1: As they watch us. Is that wasn't there? There's a guy.
- 2:34:50Speaker 7: Sitting out there in a long chair right in front
- 2:34:53Speaker 7: of the shop.
- 2:34:54Speaker 6: All of us watching this make the butter turn action
- 2:34:58Speaker 6: hand gesture.
- 2:34:59Speaker 1: No, he'd probably just be watching it later. Well, you
- 2:35:02Speaker 1: never know. Yeah, fascinating. So I think we've gotten away
- 2:35:08Speaker 1: from the movie, right? We've rounded out the Marlena moment.
- 2:35:11Speaker 1: I think that needs to bring the episode to a close.
- 2:35:13Speaker 2: I think so, because I have to be at school
- 2:35:15Speaker 2: for like four hours.
- 2:35:16Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Once again, we are out of control.
- 2:35:20Speaker 6: So, I don't even know what the hell we're doing
- 2:35:22Speaker 6: in the future, so I'm not even going to throw
- 2:35:24Speaker 6: out there. Secret Circle can hang on until next episode.
- 2:35:27Speaker 6: So with that, I'd say that about does it.
- 2:35:29Speaker 1: We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed.
- 2:35:32Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Thanks for putting up with me. Thanks
- 2:35:35Speaker 1: for hanging in there.
- 2:35:36Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks.
- 2:35:38Speaker 1: Yeah, this was fun. That was one of the most
- 2:35:40Speaker 1: off-the-rails movies we've ever done. That was a blast.
- 2:35:53Speaker 4: I remember the sparks that flew in the summer of 79.
- 2:35:58Speaker 4: My brother went wild for a pretty girl's smile, but
- 2:36:04Speaker 4: he didn't care that she was mine. We fought each
- 2:36:10Speaker 4: other like never before, and beat till we were black
- 2:36:14Speaker 4: and blue. And when we told her it was time,
- 2:36:18Speaker 4: she made.
- 2:36:19Speaker 1: Up her mind.
- 2:36:20Speaker 4: She said, I've had it with the boy and you.
- 2:36:26Speaker 4: That was when.
- 2:36:28Speaker 2: The pact was made.
- 2:36:29Speaker 1: No woman could sever her.
- 2:36:32Speaker 4: We swore it forever for the rest of our lives
- 2:36:40Speaker 4: We would stick together forever Cause two heads are better
- 2:36:45Speaker 4: than one It's double the pleasure, baby, it's triple the
- 2:36:48Speaker 4: fun I said two heads are better than one It'll
- 2:36:52Speaker 4: make you come undone Two heads.
- 2:36:54Speaker 1: Are better than one.
- 2:37:02Speaker 4: When we found ourselves in Vegas, the city of sin
- 2:37:06Speaker 4: We were restless and looking to play When this little
- 2:37:11Speaker 4: black dolly in the hotel lobby Grew.
- 2:37:14Speaker 1: A kiss as she walked out of.
- 2:37:16Speaker 4: The way She said, I'm feeling kind of lonely And
- 2:37:20Speaker 4: gave us a wink, feeling bold We expressed our intentions
- 2:37:24Speaker 4: We said, you're gonna have both She said.
- 2:37:28Speaker 1: That's a joke It takes two just to.
- 2:37:31Speaker 4: Get my attention Hope to share and share alike.
- 2:37:38Speaker 2: That's a part of our lifestyle.
- 2:37:40Speaker 4: So I'm gonna tell you, baby, just where we stand.
- 2:37:45Speaker 4: If you won't let us fall, then we won't fall.
- 2:37:50Speaker 4: Because two heads are better than one. It's double the pleasure,
- 2:37:56Speaker 4: triple the fun. I said two heads. I'm better than
- 2:38:00Speaker 4: one It'll make you come undone Two heads are better
- 2:38:02Speaker 4: than one We've come this far together It's too late
- 2:38:05Speaker 4: for turning back But it's only better when you're But
- 2:38:14Speaker 4: when you rock with the boys You never go back
- 2:38:18Speaker 4: I'm better.
- 2:38:19Speaker 2: Than one.
- 2:38:26Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 2:39:00Speaker 1: Two heads are better than one. It's double the pleasure,
- 2:39:03Speaker 1: triple the fun.
- 2:39:04Speaker 4: I tell you, two heads are better than one. They'll
- 2:39:09Speaker 4: make you come undone. Nothing's better than two heads are.
- 2:39:17Speaker 1: Better than one.
- 2:39:18Speaker 4: It's double the pleasure, triple the fun. Two heads are
- 2:39:23Speaker 4: better than one.
- 2:39:31Speaker 1: Two heads are better than one.
- 2:39:33Speaker 4: Two heads are better than one Whoa, whoa, whoa, baby
- 2:39:44Speaker 4: Two heads are better than one Two heads are better
- 2:39:48Speaker 4: than one.
- 2:39:58Speaker 1: Why don't you shut up? Hey, that's telling him, man.
- 2:40:00Speaker 3: I should have known you all kinds stick together.
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