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- Lucas: So Nintendo reported another quarter of solid numbers, but the real story isn't the Switch selling another few million units. It's what Shuntaro Furukawa has done since taking over as president in 2018 — he's quietly transformed Nintendo from a console maker into something much broader. Luna: You mean the theme parks and the movie? Because that felt like a genuine shift. Lucas: Exactly. And you have to remember, Furukawa inherited a company that had just recovered from the Wii U disaster. The Switch was a hit, but the old playbook was still 'make a box, sell a box, and hope the games follow.' Furukawa essentially said: the box is not the business. The characters and the worlds are. Luna: That's a big bet though. Nintendo had dabbled in movies before, and it didn't go well. Lucas: Right, the 1993 Super Mario Bros. movie was a disaster. But Furukawa's approach was different. Instead of licensing out to a studio and walking away, he co-produced the animated Super Mario movie with Illumination. That gave Nintendo creative control and a direct stake in the upside. And the result was over a billion dollars at the box office. Luna: Which is more than the entire operating profit of many gaming companies. Did that change the calculus internally? Lucas: It validated the strategy. But here's the interesting part — Furukawa didn't suddenly pivot to becoming a media conglomerate. He kept the core business humming. The Switch has now sold over 140 million units, which puts it among the best-selling consoles ever. He just expanded the definition of what Nintendo is. Luna: So it's not a pivot away from gaming, it's an expansion of the brand. Lucas: That's exactly right. And this is where his leadership style comes in. Furukawa is not a flashy, Steve Jobs type. He's a quiet Kyoto executive who came up through finance and HR. His strength is in patient capital allocation and knowing when not to act. Luna: What do you mean by knowing when not to act? Give me a concrete example. Lucas: Well, look at the next console. The Switch is aging, and everyone is asking, when is the Switch 2 coming? Furukawa has been remarkably disciplined about not rushing it out. He's said multiple times that they don't want to just replace the hardware — they want to continue the platform's momentum. That's a very different mindset from, say, the smartphone industry where you get a new model every year. Luna: But isn't there a risk of waiting too long? The market could move on. Lucas: There's a risk, sure. But Furukawa is betting that a delayed, polished next console — with a strong software lineup and continued support for the existing Switch — is better than a rushed one that fragments the user base. He's also been upfront that the Switch's lifecycle is longer than typical. That's a strategic patience that not many CEOs have, especially in tech. Luna: And that patience extends to their IP strategy, too. They didn't flood the market with Mario merchandise after the movie. They were selective. Lucas: Selective is the right word. In the theme park deals with Universal, they're not just slapping Mario on a ride. They built an entire themed land with interactive elements, and they'll expand it gradually. The opening of the Donkey Kong area in Japan later this year is another step, not a big bang. They're thinking in terms of decades, not quarters. Luna: It's like they're applying a luxury brand strategy to entertainment IP. Scarcity and control. Lucas: That's a great way to put it. And it's fascinating because Furukawa isn't the typical gaming executive who started as a game designer. He's a numbers guy. He spent years in Nintendo's finance department, and he worked in HR. So he looks at the business from a holistic perspective, not just from the launch pipeline. Luna: So how does that shape his decision-making? Can you give me a specific example from the last few years? Lucas: Take the mobile gaming push. When Mario Run and Animal Crossing Pocket Camp came out, they were hits — but Furukawa openly said they weren't looking to maximize mobile revenue. They saw mobile as a way to introduce people to Nintendo's IP, not as a core revenue stream. So they didn't chase whales with pay to win mechanics. That's a very deliberate choice, and it goes against the industry trend. Luna: It's refreshing, honestly. But it's also a bet that the brand's long-term value exceeds the short-term revenue they could have gotten. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the leadership lesson. Furukawa is willing to forgo short-term profits to protect the brand's integrity. That's a tough call for any CEO, especially when the company is a publicly traded one with shareholders looking at quarterly results. Luna: And this goes back to what you were saying about the Kyoto mindset. It's not just about being conservative; it's about having a very long time horizon. Lucas: Right. And it's worked so far. Nintendo's stock has done well, but more importantly, they've avoided the boom and bust cycles that have hit other game companies. They've maintained high profitability, and they have a cash pile of over ten billion dollars. That gives them the freedom to say no. Luna: That's a nice position to be in. But what about the next generation? How do you think Furukawa is approaching that? Lucas: He's been cryptic, but I think he's thinking of it as a platform transition, not a hardware refresh. The Switch was a hybrid console and it changed the game. The next one might not be a single device at all. Furukawa has hinted that Nintendo's 'integrated hardware-software entertainment' won't necessarily mean a box under the TV. That's a profound statement. Luna: So he's preparing the company for a world where Nintendo might not be defined by a console at all. That's a big vision. Lucas: It is. And it's risky, but it's the kind of forward-looking that a seasoned CFO would bring. He's not nostalgic about the hardware. He's nostalgic about the characters and the experiences. Luna: And that's why the theme parks and movies make so much sense. They're not just diversifications; they're reinforcing the IP ecosystem. Lucas: Absolutely. And this is where the leadership lesson gets really interesting. Furukawa is doing what many leaders talk about but few actually do — he's defining a clear north star and then making every decision against it. If the question is 'does this strengthen the IP?' then a lot of tempting offers get rejected. Luna: Like turning down a streaming series that might be mediocre. Or not doing a Zelda movie just because Mario worked. Lucas: Exactly. They're not in a rush to cash in. And that kind of discipline is rare. Look at how other entertainment companies have diluted their brands by greenlighting everything. Nintendo is doing the opposite. Luna: It feels like there's a lesson here for any leader, not just in gaming. You need to know what you're optimizing for. Lucas: That's the heart of it. And if this conversation has given you a new way to think about your own strategy, or just a few useful ideas about brand and patience, that's what we're here for. These episodes stay ad-free because of listener support — if today was useful, you can keep it going by buying me a coffee at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Luna: Yeah, and it's genuinely a small way to say thanks and keep us going. Lucas: So back to Nintendo — the next big test for Furukawa is how he manages the transition when the Switch finally winds down. The launch of the next hardware, whenever it comes, will define his legacy. But watching how he's built this ip focused foundation, I have a feeling he's prepared. Luna: And maybe the lesson is that sometimes the strongest move is to not make a move. Lucas: That's a perfect ending. For The CEO Diary, I'm Lucas. Luna: And I'm Luna. See you next time.