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Sheep Detective (2026) · Left of the Projector

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  Track 1: Honestly, usually I have, like, handwritten notes or, like, a note on my phone.
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  Track 1: I've got nothing. Nothing.
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  Track 2: Yeah. Well, you see something in theaters and, like, I don't know.
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  Track 2: I would feel like a douchebag sitting there with, like, a little notepad,
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  Track 2: like, in the movie theater.
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  Track 2: I was with my kid and my partner, so, you know.
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  Track 1: Yeah.
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  Track 3: Yeah. Same.
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  Track 2: Yeah.
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  Track 3: And I found out, like, 30 minutes beforehand, my wife was like,
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  Track 3: hey, do you want to go watch this? I'm like, well, I mean, yeah. Like, let's go.
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  Track 3: like of course i want to go to the movies.
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  Track 2: Of course it was fun at my um partner and,
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  Track 2: son and then his mom actually went to see it the next day again but i was like
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  Track 2: i can't really like turn down the opportunity to have the house to myself for
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  Track 2: two hours so i stayed home i could have seen it twice but i just saw it the once.
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  Track 1: Even though it's a good movie i don't know like it needs to be seen like that
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  Track 1: soon after in theaters you know yeah.
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  Track 2: That's that would be a bit much.
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  Track 3: It's like a it's a kid's movie like you know what i mean like if you really
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  Track 3: really liked it i'm not gonna bash you for it i enjoyed it but like it's a kid's
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  Track 3: movie at the end of the day like it's not yeah.
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  Track 1: Are you saying it's not that deep are you saying that we should just end our
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  Track 1: episode right now it's like oh sorry we don't got nothing i.
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  Track 3: Don't know if i go that far.
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  Track 1: Sorry sorry listeners you will you will you will get something i think probably
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  Track 1: more than we're we're letting on to somehow i don't know we'll see sit.
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  Track 5: Back in your seats get something to eat watch this movie don't want to can you
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  Track 5: see it because well then we'll let you hear the video thank you.
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  Track 3: Hello, and welcome to Left of the Projector. I am your host,
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  Track 3: Ward, back at it again with another film discussion from the left.
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  Track 3: of our weekly episodes that drop every Tuesday. Now, on to the show.
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  Track 3: This week on Left of the Projector, no one will pull the wool over your eyes
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  Track 3: as we discuss the recently released film, The Sheep Detectives.
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  Track 3: If you're looking for someone to blame for past and future puns in this episode,
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  Track 3: you'll likely figure it out through sheer luck.
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  Track 3: The Sheep Detectives was directed by Kyle Balda and stars a whole flock of actors,
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  Track 3: some of which include Hugh Jackman, Nicholas Braun,
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  Track 3: Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Bryan Cranston, Emma Thompson, Regina Hall, and Chris O'Dowd.
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  Track 3: Back with us to solve the mystery of who wrote this terrible introduction is
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  Track 3: friend of the show, Ashley, also known as Smirk Gently. How you doing?
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  Track 2: So good.
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  Track 1: See? See?
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  Track 2: Oh, I wonder who could have done that. That was cute. I like that a lot.
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  Track 2: I ran out of puns after that.
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  Track 1: I couldn't think of any more. I was like, oh, I could ram one more. Oh, I got that one.
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  Track 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Track 2: cute sorry.
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  Track 1: Listeners i apologize.
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  Track 2: I mean i i.
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  Track 3: Don't feel so bad anymore because like i was coming up i was trying to come
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  Track 3: up with what few notes that i have and one of them was like uh comparing this
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  Track 3: to like the book that it's based on and i had to put a pun in my notes.
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  Track 2: I
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  Track 3: Was like yeah based on book 2005 uh three bags full supposed to take place in
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  Track 3: ireland because of the troubles of the politics yeah they.
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  Track 2: Had to relocate it yeah yeah have either of you read the book no did you no
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  Track 2: i was going to but then i have i have like five different things in my libby
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  Track 2: account right now and i can't reasonably add another thing that i'm not gonna
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  Track 2: read or listen to just yet um so i i want to though i think it's part of a series
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  Track 2: right it's it's like cozy mystery sort of thing oh.
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  Track 3: I didn't look that much into it i don't know it.
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  Track 2: Might be.
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  Track 1: The i could see it being like a whole series of detective stories.
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  Track 2: Yeah do you think do you think they'll get a sequel a sheep cool see.
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  Track 1: What would be cool would be interesting is if like the detectives in in a in
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  Track 1: or different animals the next time i don't know like a bunch of bunnies or something i.
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  Track 2: Don't know but not the dogs because those dogs sucked.
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  Track 1: Yeah not the.
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  Track 2: Dogs were dicks yeah.
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  Track 1: But it was a German book, it says.
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  Track 3: Yes.
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  Track 1: Glenn Kill and Scheife and Screamy. Sorry for my German listeners that I butchered that.
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  Track 3: Three Bags Full.
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  Track 1: Yes, it was called Three Bags Full. But what did you, well, obviously we all saw this.
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  Track 1: What did you all think of it? I mean, again, kids movie,
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  Track 1: but do you think it's a, you know, I feel like the bar for kids movies nowadays
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  Track 1: to see them as an adult is whether,
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  Track 1: you know they're jokes or it's you know not just like the cheesiest thing you've
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  Track 1: ever seen like paddington is like i feel like the bar for a good kids movie paddington 2.
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  Track 2: Like those like that level maybe it's not that good but what.
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  Track 1: Do you think is like a kids movie for adults.
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  Track 2: I thought it was really good and i i mean we all
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  Track 2: have i think we all have kids here
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  Track 2: or yeah so like there's you end
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  Track 2: up seeing a lot of kids movies so you become sort of
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  Track 2: like accustomed to a certain level of quality and i think this surpassed it
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  Track 2: just a little bit i think it was it was more of a bridge between a kid's movie
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  Track 2: and an introduction to more like adult concepts because you don't typically
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  Track 2: see a murder mystery so plainly stated yeah.
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  Track 3: Especially like a kid's murder mystery and like it's.
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  Track 2: Yeah i.
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  Track 3: Liked it because it's like it's a solid-ish murder mystery i mean it's not like
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  Track 3: knives out level oh all these reveals and twists and stuff like that but i mean
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  Track 3: it's pretty solid for a like kids intro to murder mysteries yeah.
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  Track 2: And it was fun to talk about it with my son afterwards like asking him like
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  Track 2: who did you think it was gonna be were you surprised when you found out who
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  Track 2: it was like introducing that kind of deductive reasoning is it's pretty cool um in a,
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  Track 2: appropriate as much as something like that possibly.
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  Track 1: Could be i can't even think of like another decent kids sort of murder mystery
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  Track 1: type of movie i'm trying to think of what.
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  Track 3: Are you talking about evan you know the perfect kids murder mystery movie for kids.
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  Track 1: Which one who.
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  Track 3: Framed roger rabbit.
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  Track 1: Oh that's right well he.
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  Track 3: Insists it's a children's movie.
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  Track 1: I mean i saw it as a child and that's why i'm where i am so me.
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  Track 2: Too actually i watched that movie like 50 times yeah.
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  Track 1: I had it on vhs actually you know what movie was like a kid's movie what about
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  Track 1: um what was the witches a kid's movie yeah i guess it was it was.
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  Track 2: But in in the way that rolled all like writes children's books but that are
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  Track 2: way beyond like the level of what disney would consider usually to be like appropriate
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  Track 2: for like a children's story.
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  Track 1: That's the only one i can really think of maybe i can't think of like another
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  Track 1: good like this is the first one in a long you know especially like a murder
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  Track 1: mystery where it's not scary in
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  Track 1: any way like it's actually funny but like usually like if an animal dies a.
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  Track 3: Couple dark turns.
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  Track 1: Yeah like when you know the when the the older sheep dies sebastian.
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  Track 3: Dies but like more so his like flashback on his his background.
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  Track 1: Yeah he.
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  Track 3: Was at the carnival i was like whoa i did not expect this in this movie at all yeah.
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  Track 2: The the what was they had him fighting dogs.
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  Track 3: Yeah that.
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  Track 2: Was very dark really intense um yeah did not see that.
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  Track 3: Coming the way like sebastian describes it like i was like oh there's rides
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  Track 3: and this but then at night i'm like oh shit.
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  Track 1: Yeah i didn't i didn't expect that at all but yeah the for for yeah for anyone
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  Track 1: who hasn't seen this i probably will be out and streaming probably not,
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  Track 1: far in the future given it's probably they come out so quickly now especially
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  Track 1: since it's like it's an amazon movie so they'll be on amazon but like probably
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  Track 1: by the time you hear this episode it'll probably be streaming but it you probably
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  Track 1: if you've seen the trailer for it you know that hugh jackman lives in this english
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  Track 1: village and he's a shepherd of a you know a group of sheep,
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  Track 1: and he reads them murder mysteries to his flock and they sort of hang on every
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  Track 1: word they're like really interested in listening and sort of the sheep played
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  Track 1: by Julia Louise Dreyfus,
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  Track 1: which is Lily sort of like the smart sheep, like the, the one that seems to
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  Track 1: always figure it out is sort of the leader of the group.
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  Track 1: And they have a whole, I mean, we named all the actors who's in it.
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  Track 1: Brian Cranston plays Sebastian, the older black sheep, the Chris O'Dowd plays Mopple.
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  Track 1: And then you have Regina Hall as like the little cloud
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  Track 1: sheep with a Patrick steward plays the
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  Track 1: what is his um of course it has sir sir
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  Track 1: richfield and brett goldstein
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  Track 1: for people who know from uh ted lasso plays like a twin she uh sheep like horn
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  Track 1: sheep so they're just you like you're there it's like a very sweet setup to
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  Track 1: the whole thing like it's very there's nothing dark until later at all.
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  Track 3: It's just a couple scenes honestly that are dark even though it's like a murder mystery.
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  Track 2: Yeah. Although some of like the some of the concepts introduced like the fact that,
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  Track 2: As soon as anything bad happens that they don't want to think about and they
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  Track 2: don't want to have to really contend with, they all make themselves forget.
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  Track 2: And this is just like an accepted part of like sheep culture, apparently.
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  Track 2: They're just like, all right, guys, get ready. We're going to like eternal sunshine
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  Track 2: this out of our minds real quick. And they're like, okay. And they just do it.
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  Track 2: And then it gets into the whole like afterlife of it. And it's very bizarre.
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  Track 1: Yeah, they invented the Men in Black flashy thingy.
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  Track 2: Yeah, but they could do it to themselves.
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  Track 1: Yeah, just like at will.
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  Track 2: Yeah.
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  Track 1: But except the Chris O'Dowd, the...
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  Track 3: Mopple.
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  Track 1: Mopple, played by Chris O'Dowd, the older, like the old sheep,
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  Track 1: he doesn't forget everything.
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  Track 1: And he's saddled with like all of the horrible death and guilt and all the things
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  Track 1: that have happened over however long he's lived.
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  Track 1: And he just has to carry all of this with him. And that actually kind of feels
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  Track 1: like one of those things where you sort of maybe help your kids sort of like,
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  Track 1: you know, they have to accept things that happen that are bad,
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  Track 1: but you sort of try and like get past them with things that are also happy.
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  Track 1: Whereas like the parent has to live with all of these things.
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  Track 1: It kind of feels like the normal, like a reasonable thing that would happen, maybe.
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  Track 1: Although not, and they do in a kind of an unhealthy way where they're just like,
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  Track 1: let's permanently forget this forever.
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  Track 2: It reminded me of The Giver. Do you ever read that?
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  Track 1: Yeah.
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  Track 2: Yeah. It's the one person in their perfect weird society who has memories of
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  Track 2: all the things that have ever happened before.
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  Track 2: Nobody else knows how they got there, what their purpose is and everything,
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  Track 2: but there's the one person who's burdened with that and it gets passed down.
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  Track 2: lois lowry i think um and then their whole concept of death is crazy too like
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  Track 2: they're not really aware of death so much at least not in the way that we are
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  Track 2: um because they always forget yeah they become clouds right like.
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  Track 1: That's the idea that a.
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  Track 2: Sheep becomes.
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  Track 1: A cloud and like that's it no.
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  Track 2: One ever.
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  Track 1: You know questions this it's just like oh yep they became a cloud that's normal.
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  Track 2: Yeah and anytime anytime one of them dies they just sheep thing they magic it
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  Track 2: out of their heads and they just don't remember it anymore.
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  Track 3: See, I was joking with my wife after the movie about the sheep's ability to
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  Track 3: forget and I'm just going to double down on it now and just might as well.
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  Track 3: But yeah, no, that's why this sheep, as intelligent as they are,
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  Track 3: are still stuck in these systems of control, having to deal with the shepherd
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  Track 3: because they don't have any revolutionary history.
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  Track 3: They choose to forget all the time. And it's even in the story that they're
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  Track 3: able to make a change in difference when they chose not to forget and embrace
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  Track 3: the memory and move forward.
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  Track 2: And it only even takes a couple of them. Like, they don't even need all of them
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  Track 2: to reach a sort of sheep consciousness.
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  Track 2: Like, it's just enough of them to affect meaningful change.
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  Track 3: Yeah. What did Fidel say about it if he could do it again?
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  Track 1: What is it what's what's the i can't remember the sort of the
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  Track 1: the adage or the thing where you know if like what person is like one percent
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  Track 1: or the percentage of people like in the united states or in a country sort of
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  Track 1: have the will do you know i'm talking about a border do you know i'm saying
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  Track 1: like there's no there's something that's like they say that you know if one
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  Track 1: percent of the united states you got.
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  Track 3: To give me a more marxist quote and i'll know.
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  Track 1: I mean i don't think it's actually from a marxist specifically ah.
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  Track 3: That's why i don't know it.
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  Track 2: I'm trying to look it up and google's ai overview is like how many people in
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  Track 2: the united states have a will.
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  Track 1: Oh oh
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  Track 1: i know what it is it's the um it's the the
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  Track 1: um so wikipedia calls it is
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  Track 1: i think this is the thing i'm thinking of it's the 3.5 percent
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  Track 1: rule like a political science that when 3.5 percent
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  Track 1: of the population protests non-violently the government
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  Track 1: will likely fall from power which really isn't i mean i will i didn't i'm not
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  Track 1: diving deeply into who wrote this and what their reasoning for it but i don't
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  Track 1: know that i necessarily see that you know given that nothing has ever really
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  Track 1: happened through non-violent means despite whatever yeah i like.
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  Track 3: The fidel quote better i began revolution with 82 men if i had to do it again
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  Track 3: i do it with 10 or 15 and absolute faith it does not matter how small you are
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  Track 3: if you have faith and telling and plan of action.
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  Track 1: That's a That's a better quote than this political science theory that just
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  Track 1: is like, you know, apparently according to the actual, well, forget that.
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  Track 1: But I mean, I guess the idea is that enough of the sheep were able to make a difference.
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  Track 1: and it does seem like the in the end by helping solve the murder it also improved
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  Track 1: their own station and having someone who actually looks after them who cares
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  Track 1: for them as opposed to them being stuck you know in the slaughterhouse with uh,
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  Track 1: I can't think of the actor who's like the the neighbor um what is his name I
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  Track 1: know that the guy Caleb who's like the other shepherd goes into like um oh his
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  Track 1: name is Conleth Hill he plays the butcher he's not exactly like a big name actor the murderer Yeah.
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  Track 3: It's various.
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  Track 1: Yeah.
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  Track 3: Game of Thrones is Varys.
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  Track 1: Wait, what?
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  Track 2: What? Really?
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  Track 3: I'm pretty sure.
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  Track 2: I feel like I never recognize anybody out of that show.
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  Track 1: Oh, he's got hair. Right, it is. He's got hair.
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  Track 2: He's got hair.
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  Track 1: I can't believe I didn't realize that.
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  Track 2: They just all blend into like, they blend into like a mass of like white guys
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  Track 2: with beards most of the time. Unless it's like a few of the main people.
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  Track 3: Yeah.
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  Track 2: Because every fucking British person is in that show.
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  Track 3: Yeah, I looked it up afterwards because I was like, I swear I know that guy
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  Track 3: from somewhere. And then boop.
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  Track 2: Yeah.
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  Track 1: He kind of looks unrecognizable because in that he's bald and sort of has a
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  Track 1: different look than when I see him with hair so it's kind of I plead to my audience
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  Track 1: that that's my reasoning but yeah he won an Emmy for the four Emmys for being
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  Track 1: on Game of Thrones so yeah it's pretty good.
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  Track 3: That's some no name actor.
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  Track 1: Yeah I mean he went for four Emmys that's something I don't have four Emmys,
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  Track 1: I'll.
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  Track 3: Talk shit though I.
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  Track 1: Don't care what's he gonna do he's not listening he won't hear this probably you know what.
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  Track 3: Come on the podcast defend yourself yeah like i challenge so many other people.
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  Track 1: So far no one has taken us somebody will.
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  Track 3: Somebody takes it up come on it's got to work off this bit has to pay off eventually.
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  Track 1: Well i think the thing that i kept thinking about when i thought about the when
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  Track 1: i'm thinking about it you know we're on a podcast talking from a leftist view
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  Track 1: of this and i think the most accurate display of just what it probably is like is Nicholas Braun,
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  Track 1: who people know from Succession, as the,
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  Track 1: police chief or i guess he's the constable what he's.
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  Track 3: The only cop.
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  Track 1: Policeman maybe he's just a policeman he's the only policeman cop.
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  Track 3: He's not a detective.
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  Track 1: Yeah right right but he's always detecting and he's just a complete buffoon
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  Track 1: who doesn't like he's not wearing gloves at the crime scene he's like oh yeah
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  Track 1: we don't need to check inside the the trailer where he lived where the murder
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  Track 1: might have occurred yeah we don't need to do that it's like that's an accurate
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  Track 1: portrayal of probably you know most cops oh.
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  Track 3: Yeah that's probably like the most accurate portrayal of like anything in this
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  Track 3: movie that's indicative of the real world um.
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  Track 1: If they had made him smart that would have been more less accurate than talking sheep.
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  Track 2: It's just and
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  Track 2: it's it's very true to like small town
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  Track 2: and village life too because most places don't have
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  Track 2: i mean depending on where you are in the u.s this might not
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  Track 2: be true because police budgets are overinflated and
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  Track 2: policing is put in a much higher level
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  Track 2: of priority than it should be but there are places where it's like literally
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  Track 2: they just have like they have like a sheriff and maybe like a deputy and that's
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  Track 2: it like they have they don't really have like a whole police department or anything
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  Track 2: and i've always lived in places where there's at least like at least like a dozen like i don't know
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  Track 2: it's just in that movie eddington i don't know if you've seen.
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  Track 1: That we did an episode on that like there's only three there's a sheriff and
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  Track 1: then he has two deputies and that's it for a town of i don't.
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  Track 2: Know exactly.
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  Track 1: What the population like that's it like that's just their what they're working with.
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  Track 2: I think that's part that's why like and honestly because when you're talking
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  Track 2: to people about like the police state and and the issues inherent in policing
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  Track 2: in the united states specifically but also on a grander scale a lot of the people
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  Track 2: you're talking to are living in these places where there's, like,
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  Track 2: a couple of cops and they're not seeing the level of policing.
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  Track 2: Like, I feel like that's just, it's...
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  Track 2: It's something that even if, like, they're seeing, like, a few people with,
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  Track 2: like, a good amount of power, but they're not experiencing it on the same level
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  Track 2: as, like, in places with a larger, more diverse population.
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  Track 2: It's just interesting to think about. those are.
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  Track 1: The same people who are like the biggest diehard anti like mayor mom donnie fans like i live in like.
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  Track 2: Rural idaho.
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  Track 1: With one cop and somehow like i'm an expert and i'm affected by the politics of.
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  Track 2: New york city exactly yeah or
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  Track 2: like i live in in western new york and there
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  Track 2: are people here who have very strong opinions about what
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  Track 2: happens in new york city like our taxes are paying for our taxes
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  Track 2: are not paying for shit for them i promise you they're people in new york their
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  Track 2: taxes are going towards supporting shit up here like it's it there it flows
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  Track 2: in different directions but not in the direction that you're thinking it's just
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  Track 2: it's yeah there's a real lack of perspective my.
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  Track 1: Concern is more that my tax dollars are being used to bomb and uh destroy.
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  Track 2: People around.
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  Track 1: The world than it is that.
• 19:57
  Track 2: Yeah people.
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  Track 1: In new york city or like some other place have, you know, shelter or something
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  Track 1: or, you know, have the library is open on Sundays, which will soon be a thing.
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  Track 2: Or a grocery store. God forbid.
• 20:09
  Track 1: Yeah. So like, so the, so after the, the two Jackman is killed,
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  Track 1: I love like the, the buildup of the sheep sort of collecting around deciding
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  Track 1: whether they're going to, you know, help.
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  Track 1: And Lily's like, yeah, you know, I, you know, we, we, we know these stories,
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  Track 1: you know, it's, it's all very funny to me.
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  Track 1: Like the idea that obviously they're animals and they're sheep.
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  Track 1: And so the fact that they can just do any kind of detective work is very funny,
• 20:35
  Track 1: but just, yeah, like it feels, what's the term where, you know,
• 20:39
  Track 1: you, people pretend to be an expert about things that they don't know, um, Dunning-Kruger.
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  Track 3: Yeah, Dunning-Kruger effect.
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  Track 2: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Track 1: Yeah. Somehow, you know, I don't apply that in this case to a flock of sheep who are.
• 20:52
  Track 3: No, they actually solve the murder as opposed to like police in real life who
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  Track 3: like typically don't do that.
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  Track 1: Yeah, they have a 100% closure rate. What's the cop got?
• 21:04
  Track 3: Like...
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  Track 3: I think it was somewhere around 30% if it's a violent crime.
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  Track 2: He just goes along with it too. That's the funniest thing is that like he sees
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  Track 2: like a sheep looking at him and he's like, I better follow these guys.
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  Track 2: They seem to know what's going on.
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  Track 1: Yeah. That's one of the best parts is when they actually start their sort of
• 21:23
  Track 1: investigation and they're coming into the town to listen to the conversations
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  Track 1: of the, you know, the group.
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  Track 1: i think you both separately in like separate chats like mentioned how this could
• 21:34
  Track 1: be like a knives out mystery oh yeah actually.
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  Track 3: I was joking i was joking that i was like as soon as i was done watching i was
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  Track 3: like all right i can't wait for the uh sheep's detective benoit block knives
• 21:46
  Track 3: out collaboration movie that's gonna come after this could.
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  Track 2: You imagine oh my god.
• 21:51
  Track 3: Dude the oh my god The faces and the things that Daniel Craig could say as Benoit
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  Track 3: Blanc when he figures out that the sheep are actually intelligent.
• 22:03
  Track 2: And it's also funny because everybody else gets to be British,
• 22:07
  Track 2: but he still has to be from New Orleans.
• 22:08
  Track 1: He goes on a trip. He goes on a trip to England, just like on a vacation.
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  Track 1: And he happens upon some small town where there is some crime.
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  Track 1: And he notices the sheep attempting to solve this murder. and in this case he
• 22:22
  Track 1: helps the sheep solve the murder for some reason for some reason.
• 22:27
  Track 3: Yeah, like, they can figure it out. Like, they can hire enough people to figure
• 22:31
  Track 3: it out and write the whole story, but, like, make it happen.
• 22:36
  Track 2: Yeah. Somebody has to be writing that fanfiction right now.
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  Track 3: I hope so.
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  Track 1: I mean, the scene in Wake Up Deadman, the most recent Knives Out,
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  Track 1: where they're sort of all in the,
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  Track 1: you know, all the different potential murderer suspects are all kind of having,
• 22:49
  Track 1: like, a little meeting, is basically the exact same thing that happens in this,
• 22:53
  Track 1: where all the different, you know, potential suspects are in a room.
• 22:56
  Track 1: like it's the the daughter of the the you know the daughter of hugh jackman
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  Track 1: and then there's this reporter who's trying to solve the you know solve the
• 23:05
  Track 1: mystery and you have um who am i missing the um,
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  Track 1: I guess Emma Thompson is like the neighbor. Who else?
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  Track 2: The butcher and the neighbor.
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  Track 1: The butcher, right.
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  Track 2: Yes.
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  Track 1: The butcher and the neighbor. Yes. And the other, right. The other Caleb.
• 23:21
  Track 1: No, and the reverend too, right? Oh, and the priest. Yeah, the priest.
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  Track 2: The woman from the inn too, who was Lane from, wait, no, that's not,
• 23:28
  Track 2: he always says it's Lane from Gilmore's.
• 23:31
  Track 1: Are you talking about Hong Chao, I think is her name?
• 23:33
  Track 2: Shit, I don't remember.
• 23:34
  Track 1: She's doing a lot of stuff, actually. She was in The Menu.
• 23:38
  Track 1: She was one of the waitresses. she's gonna have been about other things too
• 23:41
  Track 1: yeah yeah yeah oh i
• 23:44
  Track 1: mean i'm sure there's other things i'm thinking can't think of at the moment but
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  Track 1: yeah she yeah so they're all and they do
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  Track 1: like a really good job of everyone sort of having some
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  Track 1: apparent reason like she steals
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  Track 1: the letter from the mailman you have the the neighbor who could you know the
• 24:03
  Track 1: the other the other shepherd who might want there is like it was renting the
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  Track 1: land from him which also that's the one the one mark on hugh jackman is he's like a landlord well.
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  Track 2: He he rents out part of his land so that somebody else can use it to tend their flock.
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  Track 1: All right to slaughter.
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  Track 3: Sheep.
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  Track 2: Yeah but he didn't know that and that's why they were.
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  Track 3: Fighting yeah he's mad at that he's a vegan yeah you can knock on hugh gem and
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  Track 3: for being a landlord and then.
• 24:31
  Track 1: Yeah it's it's it's close i'll give him i'll give him the benefit of the doubt
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  Track 1: that he didn't you know he's just giving up some of his land for the sheep to
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  Track 1: eat because he can't you know get only so many sheep i guess you can tend to
• 24:46
  Track 1: i don't know maybe there isn't.
• 24:47
  Track 2: It's a pretty common practice with like even people who keep cattle and stuff like this you know like,
• 24:53
  Track 2: they have tons of land and they're not using it i would say like wouldn't it
• 24:57
  Track 2: make sense to sell it to people but.
• 24:59
  Track 1: Okay yeah.
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  Track 2: They'll they'll rent it out to people to let their animals graze there.
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  Track 1: Yeah they're.
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  Track 2: Not using it.
• 25:06
  Track 1: And they have the reading too which is sort of like the most classic
• 25:09
  Track 1: uh you know murder mystery kind of
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  Track 1: thing they read the will and then they find
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  Track 1: out that he has twins a son and a daughter but you're
• 25:18
  Track 1: led to believe that one is in south africa
• 25:21
  Track 1: right and then by phone and then the other daughter
• 25:24
  Track 1: who's played by uh molly gordon from people probably know
• 25:27
  Track 1: from um the bear she's like
• 25:30
  Track 1: the yeah i feel like that was her big thing that
• 25:33
  Track 1: she did initially i don't can't think of really anything else she's
• 25:36
  Track 1: been in that i know of yeah but yeah they set her up as you know the the daughter
• 25:40
  Track 1: but then they also sort of frame her as well you know they drop one of her they
• 25:46
  Track 1: find her bracelet on the crime scene and you know they find this version of
• 25:51
  Track 1: the will where she would inherit all this money from his, like,
• 25:54
  Track 1: what was it, like, some kind of medicine that he was creating?
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  Track 3: Yeah, he made, like, a medicine for awful or something.
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  Track 2: Orf.
• 26:03
  Track 3: It's like, orf.
• 26:04
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 26:05
  Track 1: Orf.
• 26:05
  Track 3: The, orf. Yeah, it's, like, the...
• 26:08
  Track 3: Yeah, the sheeps get a disease.
• 26:11
  Track 2: Yeah, some weird sheep tongue disease or something. It's like some kind of tongue fungus.
• 26:15
  Track 2: And yeah, he invented this weird blue goop, and that comes up.
• 26:20
  Track 3: Comes back up.
• 26:21
  Track 2: Yeah. He puts it in their mouths, and it cures them.
• 26:27
  Track 2: I love how this is very silly, but it also sticks to the classic formula of
• 26:36
  Track 2: the whodunit, Because setting up all the different possible suspects and,
• 26:41
  Track 2: oh, secretly he's rich and who could have known that?
• 26:44
  Track 2: And they have a couple red herrings and the butcher guy and then the tenant or the neighbor.
• 26:52
  Track 2: They do that really well.
• 26:54
  Track 1: Well, then even the reverend sort of is, you know, admitting that he has,
• 26:58
  Track 1: you know, like you don't know initially if that he, you know,
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  Track 1: he's the one who we find out later had connected Hugh Jackman with his children
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  Track 1: because they had gone up to adoption through the church.
• 27:08
  Track 1: So they really set up everyone as potentially, you know, a suspect.
• 27:12
  Track 1: Well, actually, I'm curious, did you, did you both ask, you said,
• 27:15
  Track 1: Ashley, you had asked your kid afterwards, like who they thought it was?
• 27:18
  Track 1: Who did they think it was? Were they right?
• 27:20
  Track 2: He thought it was probably the butcher. And I said, that makes sense that you
• 27:25
  Track 2: would think that because he did call him a murderer. And like he had motive, you know, and they...
• 27:30
  Track 2: set that up pretty well um what about what about you guys.
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  Track 1: My kids also thought that
• 27:36
  Track 1: it was either the butcher or potentially with
• 27:39
  Track 1: the neighbor caleb like they might have been because like they were in partnership
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  Track 1: together it would make sense they both were had motive they were both impacted
• 27:47
  Track 1: i i mean i'll admit it i've so we'll because we'll be spoiling it here we already
• 27:51
  Track 1: have i thought it was going to be like a total weird thing where it was going
• 27:56
  Track 1: to be emma thompson the lawyer for some reason.
• 27:59
  Track 1: I don't know why. That's what... I think I told you that.
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  Track 2: Yeah, my partner thought that too, actually.
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  Track 1: But I definitely did not think it was the Rebecca Hampstead,
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  Track 1: the daughter. Like, that was...
• 28:09
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 28:09
  Track 1: Whenever they arrest someone, it's never them.
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  Track 2: No. It's just like law and order. It's like they arrest somebody and then it's
• 28:15
  Track 2: like, oh, there's still 40 minutes left. It's not this guy. Yeah.
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  Track 3: I figured it was the neighbor whenever they made the comment about like,
• 28:24
  Track 3: yeah, my lease is up or whatever. And I was like, oh they're gonna demonize
• 28:27
  Track 3: like anti-landlordship okay got it um my kid thought it was the butcher,
• 28:34
  Track 3: Of course.
• 28:35
  Track 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a very reasonable one to pick.
• 28:39
  Track 3: Yeah.
• 28:40
  Track 1: And, like, they do a really good job, too, where they use the tropes of the
• 28:44
  Track 1: books they're reading to help them decide where, like, oh, you know,
• 28:48
  Track 1: someone new randomly will show up in town.
• 28:51
  Track 1: But then, like, three different people show up in town that aren't expected.
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  Track 1: And you're like, fuck, which one is it? I don't know.
• 28:57
  Track 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Track 3: Yeah. Surprise is the son from South Africa.
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  Track 2: Oh, no. A South African.
• 29:04
  Track 3: Get out. Yeah, I've never met a nice South African. Who would have guessed?
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  Track 2: A blonde man? Get out of here.
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  Track 1: Yeah. I mean, when you think about it in retrospect, okay, there's this reporter
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  Track 1: who came to this small town for some reason, and their cultural affair is too tense.
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  Track 1: Even in England, that would be surprising.
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  Track 2: Yeah.
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  Track 1: Like, it wasn't even too cool, you know, things they had.
• 29:30
  Track 1: I don't remember what they were. It was like a so, uh, I don't remember what
• 29:33
  Track 1: the two things were now. It was two things.
• 29:35
  Track 2: It was silly. There were like, there were like one or two stalls. Yeah.
• 29:37
  Track 2: And it was just, there was nobody even manning them. They were just set up there.
• 29:40
  Track 2: It's like, come look at this shit. And then, and then go.
• 29:44
  Track 1: Yeah. The banner they made to display.
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  Track 3: Give me 15 and give me 10 bucks.
• 29:48
  Track 1: Right. Well, the banner they used to display to get people to come probably
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  Track 1: cost more than the, you know, the, whatever they made for the cultural fair.
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  Track 3: Probably.
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  Track 2: Yeah.
• 30:00
  Track 1: I mean, yeah, the trying to think of the other. I mean, there's like also they
• 30:04
  Track 1: also add like the a good amount of I won't call it drama, but the like some,
• 30:10
  Track 1: you know, the the like they have the little wind, the small winter lamb,
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  Track 1: which you also feel like really sad about.
• 30:18
  Track 1: You have like the little winter lamb who's basically isn't allowed to be part of the flock.
• 30:23
  Track 1: And then you later learn that Brian Cranston Sebastian was also a winter lamb
• 30:29
  Track 1: and he was right. He was, um,
• 30:31
  Track 1: abused, too. It's like, dude, you've accepted him, you have to accept everyone.
• 30:36
  Track 2: And that's a real thing, too. Like, she will reject a lamb born out of season,
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  Track 2: like, even the mother, too.
• 30:45
  Track 2: And we never find out who its mother is.
• 30:48
  Track 1: That's true.
• 30:49
  Track 2: Which is crazy.
• 30:50
  Track 2: You're supposed to love your baby. Like, what are you doing?
• 30:53
  Track 1: Well, here's what happened.
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  Track 3: Apparently not if it's a winter lamb.
• 30:55
  Track 2: That's fucked up.
• 30:56
  Track 1: Can I tell you what happened? Is whatever the mother is, did the one,
• 30:59
  Track 1: two, three forget trick and didn't remember that it was their child.
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  Track 2: Yeah. Oh, that's messed up. Oh, that's so sad, Evan.
• 31:06
  Track 1: I mean. Yeah, that's sad.
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  Track 2: Jesus.
• 31:08
  Track 1: Unless, unless the less sad version is that maybe the lamb, like the mother
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  Track 1: died in like childbirth, which also is sad, but less sad than like permanently
• 31:17
  Track 1: forgetting you have a child. What if Lily was the mother?
• 31:19
  Track 2: Oh, I mean, it's possible. And the interesting thing is, too, is like,
• 31:25
  Track 2: I like looking back when you when you find out that Hugh Jackman's character
• 31:31
  Track 2: has these two kids that he didn't end up raising because the woman who gave birth to them,
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  Track 2: his his partner, like died in childbirth and he was too young and he was like, adopt them out.
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  Track 2: I can't take care of them. He ends up breeding to the sheep because that's what
• 31:44
  Track 2: you would do with your kids.
• 31:46
  Track 2: He had to put that love and affection somewhere and that sort of bonding.
• 31:52
  Track 2: He put all of it into his sheep.
• 31:55
  Track 2: And it's really sad and very sweet.
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  Track 1: I mean, you'd think in some ways that his kids, especially his daughter,
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  Track 1: Rebecca, you'd think that she would kind of resent him.
• 32:10
  Track 1: I mean, maybe she still does, but she's getting all these letters about the joys of raising sheep.
• 32:16
  Track 1: And I mean, maybe in that way, it's he's sort of admitting to her.
• 32:20
  Track 1: Yeah, like I raise these sheep like I because I couldn't raise you.
• 32:23
  Track 1: But, you know, I feel bad about that in some way.
• 32:25
  Track 2: This would be a good segue to talk about the fact that adoption trauma is real
• 32:30
  Track 2: and that it's something that people don't talk about, but is very much a real thing.
• 32:36
  Track 2: Family separation is difficult no matter how it happens, but particularly in
• 32:41
  Track 2: the case of adoption, which more often than not is not a fully consensual process because...
• 32:47
  Track 2: When people end up adopting out, it's because they don't have the resources
• 32:51
  Track 2: in our shitty system to care for, you know,
• 32:54
  Track 2: children that they very much might want under different circumstances where
• 32:58
  Track 2: they have the material needs they would need to take care of them.
• 33:03
  Track 2: So, yeah, I'm sure I'm sure from her perspective is really, really difficult.
• 33:08
  Track 2: And then they go in to talk about how she had like a criminal record and like she.
• 33:12
  Track 1: Yeah.
• 33:13
  Track 2: Like that's for adoptees. That's very common.
• 33:17
  Track 2: Also depression and all sorts of mental health issues.
• 33:22
  Track 2: And yeah, there's a lot of risks involved for for adoptees and birth parents,
• 33:27
  Track 2: too. It's really intense.
• 33:28
  Track 1: I wonder, what's I going to say? I mean, I wonder if there's some kind of like,
• 33:35
  Track 1: because you learned that the church was the one who adopted that,
• 33:39
  Track 1: you know, who found, put them up for adoption.
• 33:41
  Track 1: You don't know how they, what role they played. You know, the church isn't always exactly, you know.
• 33:47
  Track 2: Churches used to always facilitate adoptions. They used to have, they still do.
• 33:51
  Track 2: They have like unwed mothers' houses up until like very recently,
• 33:55
  Track 2: and they probably still do in a lot of places.
• 33:57
  Track 1: I wonder if Hugh Jackman lived in this town. I guess they don't ever say.
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  Track 1: Theoretically, if that's where he had lived and had these kids,
• 34:04
  Track 1: you know, this town doesn't exactly have a, you know, a social safety.
• 34:08
  Track 1: Although I guess in England they have at least have health care.
• 34:10
  Track 2: But it seems to be like a pretty, like, well-contained and maintained little economy there.
• 34:17
  Track 1: That's true.
• 34:17
  Track 2: My partner actually pointed out to me how all the buildings and businesses have neon signs.
• 34:23
  Track 2: Like even the police departments.
• 34:28
  Track 2: they have a little neon sign in the window and then it goes over to like the
• 34:30
  Track 2: neon sign place and it's like cheap discounts for locals.
• 34:34
  Track 2: So like everybody in town has a neon sign.
• 34:36
  Track 1: And the inn is pretty nice.
• 34:38
  Track 2: Yeah. I mean, it's beautiful. It's a, it's idyllic. It's like,
• 34:42
  Track 2: it's the countryside. It's gorgeous.
• 34:45
  Track 2: Um, but you know, even in those idyllic circumstances, people might not have what they need.
• 34:53
  Track 1: Yeah. I was, I think I was, I was going to say before, I think my favorite part
• 34:57
  Track 1: of the movie is when the detective is, you know, they drop the book on,
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  Track 1: like, the ways to solve a mystery at his door.
• 35:06
  Track 1: And he ends up, like, actually reading it. And he's going through,
• 35:11
  Track 1: like, his, you know, his crime board of everything.
• 35:13
  Track 1: He's like, oh, man, this is actually pretty smart. You're not an idiot after all.
• 35:19
  Track 1: You know, that's the unrealistic part where the cop actually started to do some real detective.
• 35:24
  Track 2: And reads, yeah.
• 35:25
  Track 1: And can read, yeah.
• 35:26
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 35:28
  Track 1: He like reads this book overnight. Like all of a sudden he's like, oh yeah, I'm an expert.
• 35:32
  Track 2: Yeah. Still a bastard, but an endearing one.
• 35:35
  Track 1: Yeah, I like, I mean, Nicholas Braun, he's funny.
• 35:39
  Track 2: Yeah. No, it's cute. Very charming character. And who are the two,
• 35:45
  Track 2: aren't they the other, like, people they bring in?
• 35:51
  Track 1: The...
• 35:52
  Track 2: The other, like, there were, like, other cops they brought in, right?
• 35:56
  Track 1: Oh, yeah.
• 35:56
  Track 3: Like, later when they're transferring the... Yeah.
• 35:59
  Track 2: Yeah.
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  Track 3: Yeah, the, like, I don't know, the cops from the city, basically.
• 36:03
  Track 2: Yeah, they show up and they're all, like... Like, transfer and take custody.
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  Track 2: Take the prisoner and everything. It's just, like, a serious tone shift. It's so weird.
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  Track 2: It's, like, completely takes you out of the vibe of the place where they are.
• 36:17
  Track 2: It was very jarring. No, no.
• 36:19
  Track 1: Yeah, that felt like, yeah, sort of like, oh, maybe, you know,
• 36:24
  Track 1: this is, oh, so the IMDB calls it the county police officer.
• 36:29
  Track 1: So, yeah, the county that oversees this, you know.
• 36:32
  Track 2: Oh, so, like, state troopers.
• 36:33
  Track 1: Yeah.
• 36:34
  Track 2: Kind of thing. Yeah.
• 36:35
  Track 3: Yeah, basically.
• 36:36
  Track 1: Apparently the name is actually Frank. Frank, the county police officer. He gets a credit.
• 36:42
  Track 1: Oh, apparently he was also in one of the Fast and Furious movies, so good for him.
• 36:46
  Track 2: Oh, while you're thinking about that, another thing about him kind of relocating
• 36:51
  Track 2: his paternal and nurturing instincts onto the sheep that he's raising is that,
• 36:59
  Track 2: You know how like people read like scary stories to kids or like play hide and
• 37:05
  Track 2: seek or like do all these things that are like like innocent feeling,
• 37:10
  Track 2: but it's sort of to impart like a knowledge of self-preservation onto them.
• 37:20
  Track 2: Hansel and Gretel it's like don't talk to random fucking strangers
• 37:23
  Track 2: don't go in some stranger's house or whatever um with the sheep he kind of accidentally
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  Track 2: did that it's like he's reading them all these murder mysteries and he accidentally
• 37:35
  Track 2: taught them how to solve mysteries even though that's not really necessarily
• 37:39
  Track 2: what it's meaning to do he just wanted somebody to talk to you,
• 37:42
  Track 2: um but I was thinking about that I was watching it I was like I was like oh
• 37:47
  Track 2: it's like if you read your kid murder mysteries so that they know to avoid like
• 37:52
  Track 2: people that might want to murder them i don't know so what happens when you let your kids watch.
• 37:58
  Track 1: Who framed roger rabbit and uh silence of the.
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  Track 2: Lambs when they're like nine yeah what is that i actually think i was nine when
• 38:05
  Track 2: i saw silence of the lambs i feel like all of us were too young when we saw
• 38:08
  Track 2: that movie typically i feel Jesus, yeah.
• 38:13
  Track 1: Same thing, I saw The Exorcist at a very young age, around that time,
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  Track 1: like nine or ten, something like that.
• 38:20
  Track 2: Did I ever tell you about how I saw that movie?
• 38:23
  Track 2: My sister, she's seven years older than me, and my brother's three years older.
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  Track 2: And my dad, on a rare occasion, went out to do something and left my sister to watch us both.
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  Track 2: we go to blockbuster r.i.p and we
• 38:36
  Track 2: pick out two movies the birdcage and the
• 38:39
  Track 2: exorcist director's cut we go home we
• 38:43
  Track 2: sit in the living room and first she puts on the birdcage and we watch that
• 38:47
  Track 2: and grand time is had by all and then the exorcist director's cut and then she's
• 38:52
  Track 2: like okay go to bed i did not sleep for three fucking days i swear to you like
• 38:56
  Track 2: i was oh god so i think i was like eight years old,
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  Track 2: maybe nine. I was horrified.
• 39:03
  Track 2: And my mom's like super Christian. So I was like, this is real.
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  Track 2: This can happen. I was so freaked out.
• 39:10
  Track 3: Damn.
• 39:11
  Track 2: Absolutely.
• 39:11
  Track 3: I got my kid into horror pretty early. And so like, she nine now. She can handle it.
• 39:18
  Track 2: She can handle, like.
• 39:19
  Track 3: Some pretty fucked up shit.
• 39:20
  Track 2: I was not eased in.
• 39:22
  Track 1: No, yeah. Going, like, you're giving a nine-year-old that as,
• 39:25
  Track 1: like, your very first taste of a movie is wild.
• 39:30
  Track 3: Yeah.
• 39:31
  Track 2: And I feel like if she was going to show it to me, she should have been like,
• 39:33
  Track 2: okay, watch this and then we'll watch The Birdcage. Because you could have,
• 39:36
  Track 2: like, a palate cleanser with some Robin Williams.
• 39:39
  Track 1: In some ways, like, The Birdcage is also very deeply inappropriate for a nine-year-old,
• 39:43
  Track 1: but, like, for completely different reasons. And although it's sort of like
• 39:46
  Track 1: funny where you just don't really get it.
• 39:49
  Track 2: Yeah. Like so much of what you see when you're nine. Because you don't know
• 39:53
  Track 2: what the hell's going on. But like you just know what's funny.
• 39:56
  Track 2: The adults are laughing and you're having a good time. Who cares?
• 39:58
  Track 1: Yeah. There is lots of movies that I saw in the nine or ten or whatever that
• 40:02
  Track 1: I then saw, you know, 15 years later.
• 40:05
  Track 1: And like, oh, that's what they were talking about in that scene. Like, oh, I had no idea.
• 40:10
  Track 1: This one right over my head as a nine-year-old. I think I remember seeing.
• 40:13
  Track 2: I do think it was.
• 40:14
  Track 1: Look who's talking in the theater i'm like i don't understand oh my god it's
• 40:19
  Track 1: like opens with just the sperm like you know the opening the.
• 40:23
  Track 2: Bruce willis sperm the cloud of them.
• 40:25
  Track 1: When did that come out i was seven years old you.
• 40:30
  Track 2: Saw that in.
• 40:30
  Track 1: Theater i saw that on tv but like a bunch of places no i did not see the first
• 40:34
  Track 1: it was the second one which came out a year later and i was eight i was eight years old that.
• 40:38
  Track 2: Was actually a really good sequel i like that one And the third one was nonsense. It was the dogs.
• 40:42
  Track 1: I've shared this on this, like on here on other times, but I had,
• 40:46
  Track 1: my parents were not into going to the movies. They just didn't like it.
• 40:49
  Track 1: I think I can count on one hand how many movies I've seen with them in the theater.
• 40:52
  Track 1: We had a family friend who had a, their son was the same age as me and they
• 40:56
  Track 1: went to the movies every single weekend. So at some point they're,
• 41:00
  Track 1: just adopted me to come with them to the movies basically every weekend
• 41:03
  Track 1: and we would just see the most wildly inappropriate
• 41:06
  Track 1: movies awesome robocop 3
• 41:09
  Track 1: child's play one of the sequels i saw like cliffhanger when i was nine like
• 41:15
  Track 1: you know yeah hell yeah yeah i guess that's uh yeah i think we i guess i was
• 41:24
  Track 1: 11 when i saw cliffhanger that's a little bit better than being like nine Yeah.
• 41:28
  Track 2: There's a big gap between those two years, I think.
• 41:30
  Track 3: Yeah.
• 41:31
  Track 1: At least Hugh Jackman was not reading them like The Exorcist book,
• 41:36
  Track 1: right? He could have been reading them that.
• 41:37
  Track 2: It's a good book.
• 41:38
  Track 1: It is a good book.
• 41:39
  Track 2: Yeah. So I don't think I was, I was not like super surprised by the ending of this movie.
• 41:45
  Track 2: I thought that the so-called like journalist reporter guy was kind of creepy
• 41:52
  Track 2: and squirrely and I didn't like his hair.
• 41:54
  Track 2: And I just thought it was weird. But when they showed that he had crashed into
• 41:57
  Track 2: a tree in the middle of like a wide open road that nobody else drives down in
• 42:02
  Track 2: the beginning, I was like, this fuckers up to something.
• 42:05
  Track 1: Yeah, that was a very suspect thing to happen.
• 42:08
  Track 2: Yeah. And I listened to a lot of like while I'm working, I listen to a lot of
• 42:12
  Track 2: audio books and a lot of them are domestic thrillers.
• 42:15
  Track 2: So I am aware of the formula and it was highly suspect.
• 42:21
  Track 1: So you would be an expert detective if you were in there in their shoes.
• 42:24
  Track 2: I would be a very good sheep detective, actually. Yeah.
• 42:29
  Track 2: But I do like the way the movie ended. I thought it was really cute that she
• 42:34
  Track 2: ends up just... She's like, well, now I'll be the shepherd and I'll take all the sheep and...
• 42:44
  Track 2: And I can listen to How to Raise Sheep when she reads them. It's very cute.
• 42:48
  Track 2: It was a very satisfying ending. I liked it a lot.
• 42:51
  Track 3: Yeah, no, definitely satisfying. Super cute.
• 42:53
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 42:54
  Track 3: I liked it a lot.
• 42:55
  Track 1: It's sort of like the, like in the, in like that weird way is that so he gives
• 43:00
  Track 1: her up for adoption and then he dies with all of his quote unquote children as sheep.
• 43:05
  Track 1: And then she basically adopts them sort of like this nice little circle of life there where, you know.
• 43:11
  Track 2: Yeah, and she finds out that the mom was named Lily, which is the name of the
• 43:15
  Track 2: Julia Louis-Dreyfus sheep.
• 43:16
  Track 1: Yes, that's right. Like, I don't think she finds it out until the end, right?
• 43:20
  Track 2: Yeah, she doesn't find out until the very end. And then she names the winter lamb George.
• 43:26
  Track 1: Yeah, for Hugh Jackman, her dad.
• 43:28
  Track 2: Yeah, it was really sweet.
• 43:31
  Track 1: I do like that. I also like that they just, well, it would have been cooler
• 43:35
  Track 1: if the Rams had, you know, rammed the cop car.
• 43:38
  Track 1: But this is like a good second place for them to just.
• 43:40
  Track 2: Well, it's not France. I mean, come on. But it was very cute.
• 43:46
  Track 3: Take the win that we got like a absolutely incompetent police officer.
• 43:50
  Track 1: Yeah.
• 43:50
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 43:51
  Track 1: See, I think when I find when you do learn that it's him and he's also had pretended
• 43:57
  Track 1: he was actually the other son.
• 43:59
  Track 1: Initially, I'm like, OK, maybe he did it, but why would he be doing it?
• 44:03
  Track 1: Maybe it's he actually was trying to steal this money. But then you learn,
• 44:06
  Track 1: of course, that it's like a made up will that he made up that there is this, you know, money.
• 44:13
  Track 2: Well, there is some money, though.
• 44:14
  Track 3: Yeah, there is money. George just don't donates it all.
• 44:18
  Track 1: Right. He doesn't. It's not in his will to give to his kid.
• 44:21
  Track 2: Yeah. But she still ends up getting the thing. So that's one thing I'm not entirely
• 44:26
  Track 2: clear on, too, because like she ends up getting the land and the sheep.
• 44:30
  Track 3: Yeah, she gets the farm and the sheep. Well, I mean, she'd been writing to him
• 44:35
  Track 3: about it for a while, so if he was ever going to give it to somebody.
• 44:39
  Track 1: Wait, so did it say who he donated that money to? It doesn't say,
• 44:43
  Track 1: does it? Or maybe you don't know.
• 44:45
  Track 3: That was like.
• 44:46
  Track 3: Some like animal organizations or something. I don't know.
• 44:51
  Track 1: Yeah.
• 44:51
  Track 2: Yeah. I just.
• 44:53
  Track 1: Yeah. Wikipedia just says donated the fortune. I can't remember what he says, but it says.
• 44:58
  Track 2: Yeah. I don't know what it is.
• 45:00
  Track 2: Probably like the sheep association of somewhere. I don't fucking know.
• 45:05
  Track 2: Yeah. And she saves Caleb's sheep too.
• 45:08
  Track 1: Yeah. I like, I love when they just like all the other sheep are just like running
• 45:11
  Track 1: into the, into the meadow with them. It's like, Oh, we're going to have more friends.
• 45:16
  Track 2: Yeah, she has, like, a Jesus moment. She's, like, walking down with all the
• 45:19
  Track 2: sheep behind her to join the rest of the flock, too. It's very cute.
• 45:24
  Track 1: Yeah. I mean, I also like that the sheep also learn that they need to remember
• 45:30
  Track 1: these things, too, is that they all have their own little moral of the story
• 45:35
  Track 1: of, yeah, you know, maybe it's not so good to just forget everything.
• 45:38
  Track 2: Yeah, because when you forget everything, you forget the people that matter
• 45:41
  Track 2: to you and you forget probably who the winter lamb's mom was and,
• 45:46
  Track 2: you know, everything that can keep you from being dumb sheep.
• 45:49
  Track 1: I just noticed that the butcher's first name is Ham.
• 45:52
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 45:53
  Track 1: And the last name of the Caleb is Mero, which kind of sounds like Mero for like,
• 45:59
  Track 1: you know, from an animal.
• 46:01
  Track 2: Like bones.
• 46:02
  Track 1: Lots of. I guess these are just, these are probably just very British names.
• 46:05
  Track 1: Like there's Rebecca Hampstead. I mean, that's a very British.
• 46:08
  Track 1: Beth Pencock, somehow that also, or Pennock, that sounds British or something.
• 46:13
  Track 1: Lydia Harbottle for the lawyer. Like, that sounds, they just sound like,
• 46:16
  Track 1: oh, we'll just pull these names out of, like, the British dictionary.
• 46:20
  Track 2: The big book of British names.
• 46:23
  Track 3: I just found some, like, random British name generator online.
• 46:26
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 46:28
  Track 1: I bet that exists. Hold on.
• 46:30
  Track 3: I bet.
• 46:30
  Track 1: I'm sure that does.
• 46:31
  Track 3: Why are you looking that up? I've been trying to figure out.
• 46:33
  Track 2: Reginald Hampstead.
• 46:34
  Track 1: Oh, here we go.
• 46:35
  Track 2: Would be a good one.
• 46:35
  Track 3: Oh, that would be a good one.
• 46:37
  Track 1: British name generator. You press start and it gives you 10 new names.
• 46:42
  Track 1: Oh, you can even do male names, neutral names, or female names.
• 46:46
  Track 1: I like the neutral names.
• 46:47
  Track 2: Tanner Clark.
• 46:48
  Track 1: Yeah, neutral. Sky Holland. Tanner Rose. There are a lot of Tanners here. Skylar Bradley.
• 46:54
  Track 2: Is it Skylar spelled like S-C-H-U-Y?
• 46:58
  Track 1: No, S-K-Y.
• 47:00
  Track 2: Oh, boo.
• 47:01
  Track 1: It's spelled with the British, like O-U for color.
• 47:05
  Track 1: A lot of these names are funny. A lot of Kits, Riley, Shaw, Butler, Macy.
• 47:11
  Track 1: There's actually, I just did it again, and there's three Rileys,
• 47:13
  Track 1: but twice it's the first name and once it's the last name.
• 47:16
  Track 2: I feel like if you're British, it's rude to name your kid Butler because they're
• 47:19
  Track 2: like the only, I don't know, who else has butlers?
• 47:22
  Track 1: This is their last name, Macy Butler. So maybe their grand relative was a butler,
• 47:27
  Track 1: and they're like, oh, that's his last name because it's Butler.
• 47:30
  Track 2: What's that one's name? I don't know. Jeeves. Roy what? Butler?
• 47:35
  Track 2: He's a butler. I don't know.
• 47:37
  Track 1: At least his name isn't Jeeves or something.
• 47:39
  Track 2: Jeeves. Jeeves' dad. They killed Jeeves.
• 47:43
  Track 1: Do you remember Ask Jeeves?
• 47:45
  Track 2: That's what I'm saying. They killed him. He's dead. He's gone now.
• 47:50
  Track 1: That's sad. Need to resurrect that.
• 47:54
  Track 1: Someone needs to bring back those old sites, but it's not going to happen.
• 47:59
  Track 2: I want Coke Music back and Habbo Hotel and all the weird little simulation chat room things.
• 48:07
  Track 2: A haven for child predators for sure. but i'm an adult and i wouldn't let my
• 48:11
  Track 2: kid on there do you do you remember uh um geo cities oh god yeah you could still
• 48:18
  Track 2: find some if you go to like cloud hiker which is like the nearest equivalent
• 48:23
  Track 2: we have to stumble upon you can find people's geo cities,
• 48:27
  Track 2: a lot of them for dead pets like determined or not those hamsters are long dead um,
• 48:33
  Track 2: People used to make webpages for their pets, and you could still...
• 48:36
  Track 1: I think that's how I learned HTML was using GeoCities.
• 48:40
  Track 2: Yeah, I did on MySpace.
• 48:42
  Track 1: Yeah, MySpace too. Oh, man, I did find... You're right, there is like a website
• 48:46
  Track 1: where you can go to the different cities in GeoCities and then look up different websites. Wow.
• 48:55
  Track 1: These websites are horrible.
• 48:57
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 48:57
  Track 1: There's one for Super Mario Kart.
• 48:59
  Track 2: Oh.
• 49:03
  Track 1: Where it shows time trials for their them and their friends oh.
• 49:08
  Track 2: A lot of blinking rotating graphics i'm sure.
• 49:12
  Track 1: Oh yeah the little the the siren that spins like that was a big one oh.
• 49:17
  Track 2: Yeah they gotta grab your attention somehow there's like 500 of these sites.
• 49:23
  Track 1: See this is the site that i imagine would be like the the the businesses that
• 49:28
  Track 1: are in this town in sheep detectives like this is the kind of website they would
• 49:32
  Track 1: have it would be from like 1993 and they would still somehow be running it.
• 49:37
  Track 2: Yeah it'd be like an altavista or something.
• 49:42
  Track 1: Yeah, like the cop in the town has a website that somehow he doesn't realize
• 49:47
  Track 1: that if you click on the main link, it just takes you into all of their records for some reason.
• 49:52
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 49:53
  Track 3: I've been trying to figure out my uh miserable marxist
• 49:56
  Track 3: take for this movie and um
• 50:00
  Track 3: i'd say it just it's it
• 50:03
  Track 3: feels like liberal optimism where it's
• 50:06
  Track 3: like we lost our good blue shepherd and there's these greedy people running
• 50:14
  Track 3: amok so shit's crazy right now but we'll get somebody who spends money the good
• 50:20
  Track 3: way and we'll be happy and we can forget again and go back to brunch.
• 50:24
  Track 2: I dig it. That's a good one. I have a similar one which is that no matter how
• 50:31
  Track 2: safe you feel you are in your idyllic little town some,
• 50:37
  Track 2: shithead from South Africa can still fuck up your whole life,
• 50:42
  Track 2: kill people who you thought were safe and
• 50:46
  Track 2: the only way you're gonna to get out of it is if there's sheep that
• 50:49
  Track 2: are somehow smart enough to solve a fucking murder and even then it's probably
• 50:53
  Track 2: not going to happen so no matter how safe you think yeah no matter how safe
• 50:57
  Track 2: you think you are shit going on outside there still affects you so i don't want
• 51:05
  Track 2: to say wake up sheeple but i just said i don't think.
• 51:09
  Track 1: I can come up with anything better other than And just somehow this movie couldn't
• 51:14
  Track 1: exist or couldn't occur in any place other than England.
• 51:18
  Track 1: Like, it doesn't fit in any way in an American setting.
• 51:22
  Track 1: Like, you know, in 10 years, no one's gonna remake this in, like,
• 51:25
  Track 1: you know, I don't know, it's some stupid American thing, but...
• 51:30
  Track 1: Yeah, I think those both make sense. It does very much feel like,
• 51:32
  Track 1: oh, like, yeah, the sheep learn their lesson, but then they just sort of go back to their old ways.
• 51:39
  Track 1: Maybe they're not going to do the forgetting thing, but are they really going
• 51:42
  Track 1: to remember the things that happened before? Probably not and actually learn from them.
• 51:47
  Track 1: Eventually, there'll be another winter lamb and they'll probably shun it.
• 51:51
  Track 3: And it's like, oh, yeah, they might not forget ever again, but it's like they've
• 51:55
  Track 3: already forgotten enough.
• 51:56
  Track 2: Well, I hope they make a sequel. And I hope the sequel is not a murder mission.
• 52:03
  Track 1: There's no reason that that shouldn't exist.
• 52:05
  Track 2: It would be so fucking funny. Just for the plot.
• 52:11
  Track 1: I mean, they put Jared Leto in movies all the time. Can't they just give us something?
• 52:17
  Track 2: Yes, they owe us this much. Just make a benoit blonk.
• 52:22
  Track 1: I think it's funny that the guy who wrote this movie is also the person who wrote, I believe,
• 52:30
  Track 1: the Chernobyl series, as well as most of the scary movie sequels and the hangover sequels.
• 52:38
  Track 1: That's this guy's, that's his, he wrote Rocket Man Senseless,
• 52:45
  Track 1: Scary Movie 3 and 4, Superhero Movie, which I don't think I've ever seen.
• 52:49
  Track 1: That's like another spoof, like the same idea.
• 52:51
  Track 1: Hangover Part 2, Hangover Part 3, The Huntman's Winter War, and Chief Detectives.
• 52:57
  Track 2: I mean, you gotta admire the range.
• 53:00
  Track 1: Truly.
• 53:00
  Track 2: To an extent. Like, that's impressive. That's just a whole bunch of random shit.
• 53:04
  Track 2: Like, way to go. I don't know. You're doing something.
• 53:06
  Track 1: And he directed several episodes of The Last of Us and wrote several of them.
• 53:10
  Track 1: That is really a wild set of things to do.
• 53:13
  Track 1: to do. I can make Sheep Detective and I can write a movie about Chernobyl.
• 53:17
  Track 1: A TV show about Chernobyl.
• 53:18
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 53:19
  Track 1: Which is also a fucking great show.
• 53:20
  Track 2: Yeah, like his bathroom is probably the size of my apartment. He's doing really well.
• 53:26
  Track 1: What is his, what did I say his name? Oh, Craig Mazin. Yeah.
• 53:30
  Track 2: He is Mazin. Good for him.
• 53:33
  Track 1: Oh. His roommate during his freshman year was Ted Cruz.
• 53:37
  Track 2: Ew!
• 53:38
  Track 3: Ew.
• 53:38
  Track 1: And then who he has since described as a huge asshole. So at least he doesn't like him.
• 53:45
  Track 3: Okay, like, that's cool. But, like, it'd be a lot cooler if we knew this guy
• 53:49
  Track 3: as, like, the dude who shot his roommate Ted Cruz before he was ever a senator.
• 53:55
  Track 2: And he got off on, like, a technicality or something.
• 53:58
  Track 3: Yeah, like, that'd be cool.
• 54:00
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 54:00
  Track 3: Like, I'll have shown him the gun and it went off. Promise we weren't arguing anymore.
• 54:07
  Track 1: Oh it says he it says under his palette or under his personal life that he supported
• 54:12
  Track 1: hillary clinton in 2016 and he has a tattoo of the switchblade belonging to
• 54:17
  Track 1: the lots of us ellie on his arm that's his entire personal life section oh and
• 54:20
  Track 1: he has a wife and two children,
• 54:22
  Track 1: okay afterthought net worth 35 million according to uh a probably very unrealistic
• 54:28
  Track 1: estimate but which seems high given the movies you know like we're scary movie
• 54:34
  Track 1: three really like a showstopper If.
• 54:36
  Track 2: He's producing on top of writing.
• 54:38
  Track 1: Though, he could be.
• 54:39
  Track 2: That's a good point. He could be, yeah.
• 54:41
  Track 1: Well, he produced the movie School for Scoundrels.
• 54:44
  Track 2: Oh, I've heard of that. Must mean it made some money.
• 54:47
  Track 1: Oh, he also was like a script doctor, it looks like, for Dune Part 2 and Wicked.
• 54:52
  Track 2: Oh, shit.
• 54:52
  Track 3: Oh.
• 54:53
  Track 2: Okay.
• 54:53
  Track 1: So that's where you make the money.
• 54:55
  Track 3: Yeah. He's making some money.
• 54:57
  Track 2: Okay.
• 54:57
  Track 3: Still would have been really cool if you shot Ted Cruz.
• 55:00
  Track 1: Though.
• 55:00
  Track 2: There's still time.
• 55:02
  Track 3: That would have been a lot cooler. Yeah, no, there's definitely still a time.
• 55:06
  Track 3: Hey, man, come on the podcast. I got some ideas.
• 55:09
  Track 1: Wait, and he's from New Jersey.
• 55:12
  Track 2: Oh, we're in New Jersey.
• 55:14
  Track 3: Bill's got ideas, too.
• 55:15
  Track 1: I'm going to guess. He's from Marlboro Township.
• 55:18
  Track 2: I was going to say, no, really? That's so funny.
• 55:21
  Track 1: He said he went to Freehold High School.
• 55:24
  Track 2: Yes. Okay. Yeah, no. So he was born on, well, I wouldn't say third base,
• 55:31
  Track 2: but he's pretty close. Okay.
• 55:32
  Track 1: This is also how I learned that Ty Cruz went to Princeton. I guess they have really low standards.
• 55:37
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 55:38
  Track 3: This just sounds fancy.
• 55:40
  Track 2: It's like a step above Cornell as far as the Ivy League is concerned.
• 55:44
  Track 1: Yeah, I was trying to see if he has anything coming out.
• 55:48
  Track 1: He's running the television show Baldur's Gate.
• 55:51
  Track 2: They're making a show?
• 55:52
  Track 1: Yep.
• 55:53
  Track 2: Okay.
• 55:53
  Track 1: It'll be after Baldur's Gate 3.
• 55:56
  Track 3: The game's been out.
• 55:57
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 55:58
  Track 1: For the Craig Mazin fans out there.
• 56:00
  Track 2: I know. I don't want to spend $45 on fucking...
• 56:04
  Track 1: I've never played any of those games. I have no idea even what they're about.
• 56:07
  Track 3: It's a good chunk of change. I heard Baldur Gate 3 is really good.
• 56:10
  Track 2: Yeah, people, like, I like stuff like, I like RuneScape.
• 56:15
  Track 2: Like, I like, like, those sort of, like, MMORPG games, but I want to pay the
• 56:21
  Track 2: amount of money they want for those fucking games.
• 56:23
  Track 3: Damn, yeah.
• 56:24
  Track 1: It is pricey. That game has sold over 20 million copies. That seems like a lot.
• 56:28
  Track 3: Yeah.
• 56:28
  Track 2: It's a big deal.
• 56:29
  Track 3: It is.
• 56:30
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 56:30
  Track 3: Yeah.
• 56:32
  Track 1: Any final Sheep Detective, uh, what will the sequel be called?
• 56:36
  Track 2: Let's see. I don't know, it's tough because you want to do a pun,
• 56:40
  Track 2: but the plural of sheep is sheep.
• 56:43
  Track 2: Aside from the Knives Out crossover.
• 56:45
  Track 3: Yeah, it would be like a Knives Out presents da-da-da-da-da.
• 56:50
  Track 1: What about, it also could just be like something lame like Sheep Detective 2, A New Flock.
• 56:56
  Track 2: Yes.
• 56:56
  Track 1: The New Flock or something. But yeah, if we get a Knives Out movie,
• 57:01
  Track 1: it will definitely come out before Grand Theft Auto 6.
• 57:03
  Track 1: A Knives Out Sheep Detective movie, that is. I Googled it, but I was not, um, wait a minute.
• 57:09
  Track 1: The star Nicholas Braun says he wants there to be a sequel.
• 57:14
  Track 1: Yeah.
• 57:14
  Track 3: Awesome. Cool. Let's get... Someone reach out to Daniel Craig.
• 57:20
  Track 1: The problem is, though, that Daniel Craig got paid $30 million for the last...
• 57:25
  Track 2: Amazon can handle that. They can do that. It's fine.
• 57:29
  Track 3: Yeah, that's fine.
• 57:29
  Track 1: Make a deal.
• 57:30
  Track 2: This one made $16 million their first weekend.
• 57:32
  Track 1: If you kill Ted Cruz, I'll make the movie for free.
• 57:35
  Track 2: There you go. Yeah.
• 57:36
  Track 1: There's always a way.
• 57:38
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 57:38
  Track 3: Yeah.
• 57:39
  Track 2: Patrick Stewart fucking...
• 57:41
  Track 1: Yeah, I mean, I was thinking about this.
• 57:43
  Track 2: There's a lot of people in this movie who could.
• 57:46
  Track 1: I bet they all weren't getting paid like big bucks either.
• 57:49
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 57:50
  Track 1: All the special effects budget went to those sheep.
• 57:52
  Track 2: Right.
• 57:53
  Track 1: Which actually they literally didn't happen.
• 57:55
  Track 2: Which I am glad they're doing. And I'm glad they're doing that now.
• 57:58
  Track 2: When I saw the trailer for this, and I think I talked to you about it immediately,
• 58:05
  Track 2: like months ago, I was like, oh my God.
• 58:08
  Track 2: It's been so long since we've had a talking animal movie, like Babe style.
• 58:13
  Track 2: And I fucking love that shit. It's so silly.
• 58:16
  Track 2: And it's so much fun, but they haven't been doing them for a while.
• 58:20
  Track 2: And the fact that they're doing them all in CG now is good.
• 58:24
  Track 2: Like, it feels a little, it felt a little silly, like, the few times they did it.
• 58:29
  Track 2: But now the tech has caught up to, like, the concept a little bit,
• 58:33
  Track 2: where it doesn't take you out of it completely when you're watching it.
• 58:37
  Track 3: Yeah, it wasn't done, like, terribly bad. Yeah. It's pretty well done.
• 58:43
  Track 2: Yeah. You can watch it on a giant screen and not be like, that looks like shit. And it's good enough.
• 58:50
  Track 1: Like, for example, the new Animal Farm movie, which looks like absolute fucking dog shit.
• 58:56
  Track 2: It looks like garbage. And I keep getting messages from Regal Cinemas that are
• 59:01
  Track 2: like, if you get tickets, we promise you, you can get all these perks for other
• 59:06
  Track 2: things. I'm like, I don't want to watch that piece of shit.
• 59:09
  Track 2: Tell Andy Serkis he can blow me.
• 59:11
  Track 1: We were saying though that we we kind of well i'm not gonna pay for it obviously
• 59:15
  Track 1: i would never pay the penny it looks terrible but i think it would be interesting
• 59:19
  Track 1: to just to discuss it and just i'm sure that it's everyone has said it's been
• 59:23
  Track 1: it's horrible like it's just i'll.
• 59:24
  Track 2: Talk shit about orwell's nonsense thing all day,
• 59:32
  Track 2: i have opinions.
• 59:33
  Track 1: Yeah the picture for it is it's only made six million on a 35 million dollar
• 59:38
  Track 1: of budget so i can't believe the people who are in this too like steve buscemi
• 59:43
  Track 1: and seth rogan it's like really don't you have any self-respect i.
• 59:46
  Track 2: Feel like they have nothing else going on like what else are they doing is it
• 59:49
  Track 2: really that bad for them right now seth rogan i don't know what his thing is
• 59:52
  Track 2: i thought he was just doing ceramics now.
• 59:54
  Track 1: Jim parsons was one of the voices he made a fuck ton of money from uh how i
• 59:59
  Track 1: met your i mean how i met your brother fucking uh the whatever the fuck show
• 1:00:03
  Track 1: he was in. Big Bang Theory.
• 1:00:05
  Track 2: Who knows? There you go. That's the one.
• 1:00:07
  Track 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:09
  Track 2: Well, clearly not the most discriminating taste, but. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:00:13
  Track 2: it's a mess. Yeah, I will watch that pirated movie.
• 1:00:16
  Track 1: After I watch it, though, after I pirate, I'm going to delete it so that I can
• 1:00:21
  Track 1: just – someone recently was saying how they're like, oh, you know,
• 1:00:26
  Track 1: I'll only watch the new Harry Potter show on HBO if I pirate it.
• 1:00:30
  Track 1: I'm like, well, I'm going to download it and then just delete it immediately
• 1:00:33
  Track 1: and not watch it because that's how much I care about.
• 1:00:36
  Track 1: I'm going to steal it from you and then I'm going to delete it. Anyway.
• 1:00:39
  Track 3: Be better off.
• 1:00:40
  Track 1: We all would be better off. I can't even imagine how much money they're spending on that one.
• 1:00:45
  Track 1: They could actually make a good show not written by a fucking horrible person.
• 1:00:49
  Track 2: It's been almost 40 years since the books came out.
• 1:00:52
  Track 1: Really?
• 1:00:53
  Track 2: The first one, right?
• 1:00:55
  Track 1: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:00:57
  Track 2: 97 or something? 98? The first one, I think, came out in the 90s.
• 1:01:02
  Track 1: You're right. 1997. Holy shit.
• 1:01:05
  Track 2: Yeah. Move on. Read a new book. There's so many other ones out there.
• 1:01:10
  Track 1: It's been 20 years since the most recent one of those books came out.
• 1:01:13
  Track 3: There's so many better books out there.
• 1:01:16
  Track 2: I would be on board for a whole new Hitchhiker's Guide thing.
• 1:01:20
  Track 2: They can do as many of those as they want. That would be awesome.
• 1:01:22
  Track 1: You know what's funny? I literally just read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy yesterday.
• 1:01:27
  Track 2: Really? I have a couple of them in my queue on Libby right now to read again.
• 1:01:32
  Track 1: Well, it's the audiobook, I should say. I listened to it, which is actually
• 1:01:33
  Track 1: really funny because the British guy who did the voices was pretty good.
• 1:01:37
  Track 3: I've listened to all of the books and read them a few times.
• 1:01:42
  Track 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  Track 3: They're hilarious and fantastic.
• 1:01:45
  Track 2: There's one of the versions of the audiobook is Martin Friedman reading them.
• 1:01:52
  Track 1: Oh, I wonder who read the one I did.
• 1:01:55
  Track 1: They've never, like, been able to do, like, a good film adaptation,
• 1:01:58
  Track 1: right? Like, they just can't do it.
• 1:02:00
  Track 2: I honestly, I kind of like the one
• 1:02:02
  Track 2: they did with Martin Freeman and What's-His-Face. I thought it was fun.
• 1:02:07
  Track 2: They kind of breezed through it pretty quick.
• 1:02:10
  Track 3: It goes through a really, really
• 1:02:11
  Track 3: quick and change a lot of things for the sake of movie storytelling.
• 1:02:17
  Track 2: Yeah, but the tone was right.
• 1:02:18
  Track 3: It wasn't the worst thing.
• 1:02:19
  Track 2: Yeah, the tone was right. Yeah, like, the goofy Serge Douglas Adams irreverent.
• 1:02:24
  Track 2: reverend style was there.
• 1:02:27
  Track 1: I don't know if I've actually seen that one now that I think about it.
• 1:02:29
  Track 1: The one you're talking about.
• 1:02:31
  Track 2: It's fun.
• 1:02:31
  Track 1: The early 2000s.
• 1:02:33
  Track 2: It's fun.
• 1:02:34
  Track 3: Give it a watch.
• 1:02:35
  Track 2: It's fun. And Martin Freeman plays Arthur Dunn.
• 1:02:38
  Track 1: No. Of course he does.
• 1:02:40
  Track 2: He's a huge fan of it.
• 1:02:41
  Track 1: Oh, man. Sam Rockwell, Most Def, Zooey Deschanel, Bill Nye.
• 1:02:45
  Track 2: Yeah, Most Def.
• 1:02:46
  Track 1: I kind of can't believe I haven't seen this movie.
• 1:02:49
  Track 2: It's good. I like it. it's not like my dream version of it but it's it's it's fine.
• 1:02:57
  Track 3: Yeah that's how.
• 1:02:59
  Track 2: It's what we have that's how.
• 1:03:01
  Track 3: I've always felt about is.
• 1:03:02
  Track 2: It's fine it's fun it's fine yeah hbo at some point will make it into a series well.
• 1:03:09
  Track 1: That would have been a lot better if they did that than making harry potter.
• 1:03:12
  Track 2: Yeah oh.
• 1:03:13
  Track 3: God that'd be good.
• 1:03:15
  Track 1: The answer is 42.
• 1:03:18
  Track 2: Tune in next time for the question.
• 1:03:21
  Track 1: The deep thought question. But I guess that concludes our left to the projector,
• 1:03:29
  Track 1: Sheep's Out. Sheep's Out.
• 1:03:32
  Track 2: Sheep Detective.
• 1:03:34
  Track 1: I was thinking of Knives Out at the same time, and I said Sheep's Out. That's what it could be.
• 1:03:38
  Track 3: You figured out the name of the sequel.
• 1:03:39
  Track 1: Sheep's Out.
• 1:03:40
  Track 3: You figured it out.
• 1:03:41
  Track 1: Yes.
• 1:03:42
  Track 3: It came to you in a vision.
• 1:03:44
  Track 2: Yes.
• 1:03:45
  Track 1: Uh but ashley thank you uh for uh we we've been we were uh talking about this
• 1:03:51
  Track 1: when they first dropped the trailer so finally happened thank.
• 1:03:54
  Track 2: You thank you very much.
• 1:03:57
  Track 1: And uh for ward and i we will catch you next time.