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G'day, humans.
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Welcome to the same space for dangerous ideas.
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And wow, wanna walk down memory lane,
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not memory actually, lane,
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but completely new thing lane for most of you.
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And indeed, for me, nostalgia lane,
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haven't heard this in seven years lane.
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One of the greatest experiences of my life
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to have done this lane.
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And I can't believe that I haven't had access
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to listening to this up until now.
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Lane, I hope you're sitting down,
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hold on to your hats, lane.
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Back in the day, I had a show called We The People Live,
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which was basically, I was living in New York City
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and I was thinking to myself, you know what?
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I wanna do like a weekly panel chat show about the news.
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So what I always do it, live at a bar in Brooklyn
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and we'll record it and release it as a podcast.
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Now We The People Live subsequently ended up becoming
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a place for all kinds of interesting things to happen.
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And you know, I was just sort of,
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it became my playground where I could do one on one interviews.
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But the original DNA of the show
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was get people drunk in a bar and laugh about things.
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And that version of the show became really popular.
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It was great.
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And today you get a glimpse into a dingy,
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CD, smelly Brooklyn bar in 2016, cast your mind back.
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Barack Obama is the president of the United States.
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They're gearing up for presidential election,
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Hillary Clinton, the Donald Trump.
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And Addy Lang, one of the most iconic
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and brilliant comedy performers in American radio.
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So Addy started on the Howard Stern show
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and became a complete icon because of that.
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He's a big fat, boisterous, hilarious, high powered,
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high energy guy who I met by inviting him on We The People Live.
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And he, the God bless him.
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He was nice enough to come on multiple times.
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He would get a car all the way in from his place in New Jersey.
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He was living in this beautiful apartment with panoramic views.
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I went there, overlooking Manhattan
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because I did his podcast.
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When I arrived there and culture was there,
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she was a previous guest on his podcast.
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He literally watched, he told me what the twin towers
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fall from these panoramic terrorists
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overlooking the skyline of Manhattan.
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Anyway, enough about that.
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So Addy Lang became kind of a buddy of mine.
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He would show up and I hope I'm not betraying
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a confidence here, Addy.
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But like he would show up with his off,
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he had a sidekick, like off-sider,
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I don't know, a bodyguard, a helper, assistant.
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And he would show up and he would occasionally just
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be bleeding from his nose.
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And he would complain to me and say,
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oh, I've got this, oh, my doctor said I got this health thing.
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And I was so naive, I thought,
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well, it couldn't be cocaine or snorting heroin, surely.
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I mean, it's probably got some kind of, of course,
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the guy was, yeah.
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He subsequently encountered a lot of problems.
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Drug-wise, Addy, I love you and I hope you're okay
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and I hope you don't mind me telling that.
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I don't think it's breaking any news to say that
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he's been struggling with substance use issues.
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So anyway, at the time, he would show up.
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He would, absolutely, you will hear.
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You will hear just how good the drugs made him
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in this very show.
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And then there were the girls from Guys We Farx,
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which is their podcast.
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I'm not even, you know, just Google that
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if you don't know what guys we fucked are.
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And then John Ronson, the brilliant Brit
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who Louis Theroux sort of based his persona on,
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John Ronson is an inquiring and curious journalist
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and performer who is so insightful about things.
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This is the four of us talking about Trump staff,
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talking about psychopathy, which is John Ronson's
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Mario Specialty wrote a book about it.
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A bit about Hillary and Bernie and the types of people
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who vote for such candidates.
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A bit about performative social justice
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and how leftist can't talk about problems with Islam
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and the privacy questions of Apple being forced
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to unlock the iPhone of a shooter.
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It's just, anyway, I hope you enjoy this.
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Again, it's not a blast from the past
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because it has been unavailable.
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All of this stuff is unavailable.
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All it does is sit on a hard drive in my basement.
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And I'm so glad to be able to bring it to you
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as just an interesting curiosity.
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From 2016, an old live episode of Where The People Live.
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We enjoy people.
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We're going to Where The People Live,
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the interactive discussion show for planet Earth,
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this week, Trump, abortion, race and the politics of anger,
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terrorism, Brussels, Muslims, what do we do?
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Do we profile or is there nothing to see here, ma'am?
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And Apple and the FBI, the feds can hack your phone,
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is privacy dead.
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Joining me are Corinne Fisher and Christina Hutchinson
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of Sorry About Last Night and the podcast Guys We Fucked.
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John Ronson, the acclaimed journalist,
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humorist and documentary maker, author of best sellers
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like the men who stare at goats, the psychopath test
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and most recently, so you've been publicly shamed,
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which is out in paperback this week.
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Fantastic book.
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And the great Arty Lang is here, former star
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of the House Turn Show and Mad TV
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and now host of the Arty Quitter podcast.
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Let's start.
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That was very nice.
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We've got a little woo from onstage
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and almost nothing from the crowd.
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Let's start with the most important story of the week.
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A United Airlines flight to Tokyo had to be diverted
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because a passenger insisted on doing yoga.
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John Tay Bay was doing yoga and meditating
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up the back of the plane.
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And that's not racist to say it that way.
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That's probably how his name's pronounced.
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Probably.
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So don't stop laughing at me.
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You just look like you're having a way of face or gas.
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You know, it's a horrible thing about the times
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you're living without the yoga.
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That's a regular story.
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What in the flag got diverted?
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Yeah, I mean, everything.
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There's the disaster every day.
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You know, it's like a very old millennial flight diversion.
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So it had yoga and it'll be a story.
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But this guy was a South Korean gentleman.
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And he was up.
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Of course.
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They always are South Koreans and they yoga on planes.
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He was up the back of the plane.
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He refused to go back to his seat
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and when the flight attendants insisted,
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he flew into a rage.
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There were a couple of US Marines who were on the flight,
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who tried to help the flight attendants out.
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And the passenger headbutted them and bit them.
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And they put his mat out and did his mantra.
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She's so the opposite of yoga.
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Yeah, I know.
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How do you snap it out of meditation
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and straight into a headbutt?
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So I just want to go around the horn very quickly
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about the most interesting or frustrating thing
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that you've ever encountered on a plane.
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John, do you want to kick us off?
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Yeah, I have a bit nervous that this plane story
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is going to take a little while to tell.
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The whole show is about 35 minutes.
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So you've got about 34 and a half minutes.
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I'll tell it as fast as I can.
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OK, so I got out.
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I went on Concord once.
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And when I took my seat, I wasn't paying for it.
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When I took my seat, I was sitting next to Keith Richards.
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What?
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And I was in the seat next to Keith Richards.
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And I thought, I'm going to have to look straight ahead
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for the next four and a half hours and not acknowledge
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that I'm sitting next to Keith Richards.
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But within about 20 seconds, Keith Richards poked me
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and said, I've done everything, man.
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So the plane took off and it kind of got to Mach 2.
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By the way, they gave me a little certificate
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that said, I've been on Concord.
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But they didn't give one to Keith Richards.
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Yeah, and so it got to Mach 2 and like everyone clapped.
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And then it started to slow down and judder alarmingly.
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And the pilot, I swear to God, the story is true.
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So the pilot came over the Tanoi and said,
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you may have noticed that the plane is slow,
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God, be alarmed.
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And so the guy in front of me who was the head of a radio station
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turned around and said, the last time this happened,
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they gave everybody free, vowed food vouchers
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for Marx and Spence's, which is like a British food thing.
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But it's a chain, right?
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It's not even a very classy thing.
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Yeah, but I'm thinking about just to go to a Michelin star restaurant.
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Well, I mean, I'm thinking, fucking hell,
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the plane is like juddering alarmingly and slowing down.
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And there's the guy talking about vouchers.
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So the captain comes out of the cockpit
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because the Tanoi's not working.
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And he's like going up the aisle, like four by four.
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And it gets to us.
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And he looks directly at me.
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I guess he needs to look at somebody.
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And he looks directly at me and says,
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you may have noticed that the plane has slowed down
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dramatically.
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We're going to turn back and head back to London.
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We may or may not make it.
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My hand to God.
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We may or may not make it, but what just a joy, you know, just a...
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And the guy in front turns around and goes,
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it's the vouchers.
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That mentioned the vouchers.
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And Keith Richards said, I don't care.
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But I tell you, he's got to be really pissed off.
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And I said, who?
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And he said, Mick, he's down in the front.
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Mick Jacket, who was like, down in the front,
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I need to saw Keith and went, yeah, very good.
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Can you beat that?
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Well, I'm trying to say the last year
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that Mick Jacket has rigid food commercial.
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What year was that?
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Oh, it's before Concord.
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It must have been.
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I tell you where we were going.
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We just about to say it was before the Concord crash.
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It stopped working.
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We just before the Concord crash.
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You can date it because we were going to Minneapolis
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to the launch of Prince's triple album.
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So it was forever that happened.
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Oh, definitely. That was 1983.
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By the way, we got there and somebody from a tabloid
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was there like the sun and said to me, is it true?
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You know, there was this kind of Concord incident.
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And I said, yeah.
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And he said, how did you feel?
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And I said, well, I was a bit shaken up.
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And they said, how did Keith Richards feel?
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And I said, he seemed fine.
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And then I saw the paper the next day.
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And it said, I was terrified, said passenger,
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ronson, but not Keith.
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He just, he just not back another whiskey and coke.
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And it just takes you thing.
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I think it was Charlie Watts on a train.
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How did they have to go?
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It is kind of lucky then when you think about the fact
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that that Concord blew up, that it was a charter
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where there were just a lot of tourists on it.
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Because ordinarily, you're reminding me
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that the Concord was full of celebrities.
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Well, it's a lot of it.
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So it could have been really bad.
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I think it was just regular people.
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That's right.
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And that's obviously what was happening
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like in my mind that night, I was thinking
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for the rest of eternity, it's going to be Keith Richards,
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Mick Jagger, Liam Neeson, and 97 others.
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Yeah, that's right, that's right.
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I was on a plane with Robert De Niro once.
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And as we went through Turbulence,
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I did think to myself, if this goes down,
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then every single person who knows me
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when they find out that I died.
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And I'm like, how the fuck did Josh Dineson say,
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you know that plane that De Niro was on?
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Who's on the fucking De Niro plane?
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You don't think he looked around if the plane goes down
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or how far down the article you're going to be?
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Yeah, I wouldn't even make it.
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I wouldn't even make it.
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I mean, if one direction gets on the plane, I'm fine.
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You'll be sick.
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Can we cancel this topic?
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He beat everyone.
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I mean, maybe already.
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Maybe already.
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Yeah, okay.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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I made out with a chick who thought I was an victor.
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Yeah, I was going to play a couple of Xanies in Chicago.
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And that's right.
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And I get talking to a big shot.
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And this chick was really drunk next to me.
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And I had done Conan a couple of times.
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I guess she put two and two together
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and she saw a fat guy of Conan.
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And she said, you're Andy Richter.
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And I said, you know, she wouldn't stop saying it.
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And I finally just said, fuck it.
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Yeah, you know, I'm Andy Richter.
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I just wanted to shout out.
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And she was like, yeah, she's introducing me to people.
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And you know, she called me to, she was going to call
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on the fucking plane phone.
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Let me talk to her mother and as Andy Richter,
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but she couldn't work it.
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Thank God.
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She must have been really into Conan
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because she started hitting on me, like, you know,
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sort of like kiss her my neck.
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And I said, fuck it, I mean, I'm not John Stamos.
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I'll tell you when I can get it.
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I was thinking of the pussy of Xanies.
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Yeah, the bar of Xanies.
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It's just amazing to me that Andy Richter
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goes around America, being hit on by beautiful women.
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Well, this would happen.
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Like I told Andy this, he goes, what?
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That doesn't happen.
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I said to him, I said, well, maybe you're a little more charming.
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No, she started, and I started making that with her.
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And I moved.
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In your seats or in the bathroom?
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In our seats, yeah.
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And I said, let's take this to the bathroom, you know.
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And both of us in the bathroom, we couldn't fucking,
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we couldn't do anything.
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I couldn't reach her mouth.
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The Maya Wide Club.
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And we were too, both of us were too fat to make out in the bathroom.
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And I guess that's why she was a heavy drinker.
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I didn't mean to, I didn't mean to that pun.
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Well, that was a heavy drinker.
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But the heavy and drinker.
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And we went back to the gang.
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It was kind of sad, you know.
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And I landed and I told him, come to Xanies, you know.
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I kept trying to, well, we got to try the fucker
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as Andy Richter, that kind of googling Andy Richter
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for references.
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And I made out with her in front of a bunch of people,
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first class played the Chicago from New York.
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And at the end, I never told her I wasn't Andy Richter.
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So he's married with children, like, you could get around.
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And the next time I did cone, and I was sitting there,
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I told the story, and I said, I apologize to your wife,
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if she heard anything, that wasn't it.
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That was me.
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But in the bathroom, it was so, you know,
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that was the most pathetic thing.
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I was like, crying at the, like, winter in, mate.
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Oh, the winter is.
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Yeah, but I killed Xanies.
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All right, well, I'm glad to hear it.
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Let's move on to, can we move on to some less important
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subject of the week?
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Like, sorry.
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The GOP.
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You got another yoga club?
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Sorry.
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The GOP, they've gone from confused to simply terrified
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by the inexorable sense of Donald Trump.
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Last week, Trump threatened to spill the beans
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on Ted Cruz's wife.
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What the hell is that?
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What are the beans?
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What are the beans?
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I don't know what the beans are.
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What does it mean?
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Like, she's a dude or something?
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What the fuck is that mean?
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This week, Trump proudly defended his campaign manager
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for physically assaulting a female reporter.
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I can't assault that.
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Yeah, did you see the video?
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Come on.
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Are you going to defend that guy?
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She had bruises, Adi.
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Yeah, but the bruises don't line up.
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They aren't me, listen.
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I fucking hate Trump.
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I can't even believe that we're still talking about.
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Every time we talk about him bad or good,
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it's just giving him publicity.
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It's like the Spice Girls say, any publicity
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is good publicity, OK?
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And what about the stages of our time?
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I mean, giant linebackers have gotten closer
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to people this year.
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She did.
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And then I'm defending them.
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Yeah, OK.
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I don't give a shit about the physical assault.
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We can move on from neck.
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There was now there's a blunder that made
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even very conservative Republicans win.
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I just want to take a listen to Trump
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and MSNBC Town Hall debate this week with Chris Matthews.
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Do you believe in punishment for abortion?
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Yes or no?
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It's a principle.
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The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment.
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For the woman?
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Yeah, there has to be some form.
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10 years?
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10 years.
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I don't know.
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That I don't know.
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That I don't know.
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I don't know.
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You take positions and everything else?
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I do take positions and everything else.
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It's a very complicated position.
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What the...
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Oh!
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So he laid a backtrack to the correct anti-Orbarshan
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orthodoxy, which is that the woman is a victim
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and you should only...
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It's a victim.
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..prosecute the physician rather than the woman.
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So the doctor is giving her abortion
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and she's the whole time, she's like, don't do it.
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That's right, that's basically it.
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No, because women are incapable of making decisions for them.
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Well, yeah.
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Although the outrage over this has taken me a little bit
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by a surprise, but I'm a man.
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You're a non-man.
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So what's your opinion?
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Thank you, that's so sweet.
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Trump's a fucking idiot.
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I've actually heard him say, and it made me also mad.
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One of the debates he said that,
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Planned Parenthood does a lot of great things
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for women not just to give abortions.
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And I was like, yeah, you're fucking absolutely dead
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all with that, you piece of shit.
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Punishing women and then victims of an abort...
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Like, don't, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
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Well, he used to be pro abortions.
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So, you know, it's...
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Because that's what he used to act like.
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Yeah, that's what he got his side of.
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He's not pro abortions.
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Well, he's probably won't be pro abortions as well.
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Trump would be pro abortions for everybody.
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I was on the fence about this.
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I tweeted out today, Eric Trump doesn't interview sometimes
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and he's such a really...
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Eric Trump?
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Eric Trump is also about hard work, the Trump sons.
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About how hard it was to get a job at the Trump power.
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And he's so nervous to say something wrong.
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He says the word amazing, like 50 times in a second.
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He's an amazing dad, he's amazing dad, he's amazing.
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And he's embarrassing.
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So, I tweeted out today a picture of him
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and it's said that sometimes women are punished
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for not having it aboard.
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That's a go on, aren't you?
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I went up two followers.
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All right.
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Good for you.
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John, what do you make of it as a foreigner who resides here?
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Do you...
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Are you clear on whether or not Trump actually believes anything?
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Because when in that clip, when he's being asked about it,
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it actually looks like he's just thinking,
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oh fuck, what are the evangelicals going to want me to say
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and how do I say it?
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People keep asking me, I wrote a book about psychopaths.
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So, people keep asking me if Donald Trump is a psychopath.
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But I took a kind of vow of abstinence
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when I finished my psychopath book about diagnosing psychopaths
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and with that.
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But, you know, it's kind of interesting,
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as one of the big traits is pathological lying
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and not being embarrassed if you're caught in a lie.
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That's like a big psychopathic trait.
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So, every politician, then, like...
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Yeah, but...
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Well, yeah.
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But, you know, pathological.
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Pathological.
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And then there's the grandiose sense of self-worth.
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But on the other hand, I'm sort of disappointingly thinking
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that maybe Donald Trump isn't a psychopath
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because one of the other items,
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one of the other big items.
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Oh, I tell you, another big item on the checklist is like,
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juvenile delinquency and early behavior problems.
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So, this is like when they're so young that they're not doing like PR,
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they're just like torturing animals
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thinking about the consequences.
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And something did happen with Trump, right?
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When he was like 10, 12, 14, he got sent to some kind of lie...
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Oh, really?
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...special school or something, because he was like...
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Oh, not a lot, really.
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...for boys.
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...for kind of some kind of extreme behavior.
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That's not one thing.
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However, I've come to the conclusion maybe he's not a psychopath
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because one of the items on the checklist is...
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...is need for stimulation, pronus to boredom.
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And then when you think about the amount of time
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that you listen to build those big fucking buildings
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and like all the like, the 15 years of like, you know, payola and stuff,
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I kind of think that's not the kind of thing a psychopath would do.
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I think he's clearly got narcissistic personality disorder.
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Well, I heard that on the radio.
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I heard that on Trumpcast, on Trumpcast,
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a psychologist was saying that he definitely has
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narcissistic personality disorder.
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And of course, I never loved that.
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I never loved somebody sort of diagnosing somebody from a file in that way,
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because you know, psychologists could suffer from narcissistic personality disorder as well.
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That's complicated.
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That's complicated.
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Well, he reached weed in somebody's tweet,
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which was a Mussolini quote,
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not that he knew that it was.
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Yeah, but I think he's a psychopath,
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but he's actually a productive one, you know.
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Yeah, he gets shit done.
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He just says he's just, he can't,
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in the beginning, he was great because he was showing human emotions
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with people like Bush politicians.
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They don't know how to deal with a human emotion.
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The robots are like, we have to defeat ISIS.
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And he's going, oh, fucking bomb the shit out of us.
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And but that gets you so far.
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He's got to learn something about the issues.
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Like, he said that with a book and that plane is.
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Yeah, well, you know, when they asked him what,
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who is trusted foreign policy advisors are.
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Melania.
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He said, he said, well, first off,
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my number one foreign policy advisor is me,
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because I have an incredible brain.
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That's not good enough, buddy.
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He said he has the best words.
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God.
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Has there ever been a candidate that's this close to being president
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that's this much of an asshole?
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Oh, yeah.
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Have we, sir?
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I mean, George Wallace in the 60s ran on the fact that he was a racist.
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Like, that was a slogan.
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Did he get close?
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I am a racist.
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Yeah.
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In his party to get it being the nominee.
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Very, what was he fighting for?
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I think he wasn't the only one.
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He wasn't the only one.
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Yeah, he wasn't the only one.
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Yeah, he wasn't the goal.
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No goal water being amount for them.
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All right.
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But anyway, you're going back a little ways in time before you find someone
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that's the last one I could take.
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No, I was just getting ready.
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Oh, OK.
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Yeah.
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I'm ready.
21:55
Speaking of race and Trump, the divisiveness of the pro-Trump versus anti-Trump movements
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is sort of reaching a fever pitch.
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There was a Trump rally in Wisconsin,
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at which a 15-year-old female protester got into an altercation
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with a middle-aged Trump supporter who sprayed her in the eyes with pepper spray.
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I...
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She pushed.
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I know that it doesn't fucking matter.
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No, I agreed with you.
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She pushed him.
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Yeah.
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And then he was...
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And she was like, oh.
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But that's the thing that we want feminism.
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If we want feminism, if we push someone I expect to get pushed back,
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that's what feminism would be because it would be a quality.
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I'm very true.
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I'm serious.
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If I hit you, you can hit me back.
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No.
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You have to...
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If you want a quality in the good stuff, you have to have a quality in the bad stuff, too.
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I respect that.
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That's a great...
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That's a bold thing to say.
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If I punch you, you can punch me back.
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Sorry.
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But I mean, at some point you got to be a gentleman at some point,
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and the guy was pulling punches in the face, again, punch her in the face.
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Well, violence is stupid across the board for any gender.
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Right.
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It's dumb.
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I mean, the thing is...
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That's a guy who's going to rat on you.
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There are a couple of things that I took away from watching that video.
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One was, like, Trump supporters do have a right to gather and cheer
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without other people...
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Without other people obstructing them, right?
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Like, she has come to their rally to shout at them and to push them
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and to infringe on their freedom of assembly and freedom of speech.
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It's not like they're going into onto her turf.
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And secondly, around America, people get punched and sprayed in the eyes
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and shot in the head every single part of that.
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Oh, I do like my commute to work.
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Yeah, it's like...
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The moment it happens in a Trump rally,
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all of a sudden it takes on all of this ominous kind of macabre media hysteria.
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I wonder why that isn't whether that's valid.
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It's that tumbleweed of Trump of like everyone obsessing over him and talking about him all the time.
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I mean, it's...
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He's getting the spotlight more than Hillary and Bernie more than any of the candidates.
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I just think people are obsessed with what he says,
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because it's one of those things where what's he going to say next.
23:50
Yeah, he's entertaining.
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We value entertainment in this country more than anything else.
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And Trump is more entertaining than Bernie or Hillary.
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I'm a huge Hillary fan.
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She's a little boring sometimes.
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Maybe she's just by things up.
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I think this proves that no music sucks.
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I mean, you know, in the 80s, we'd have a concert to go to for a Trump rally.
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And Bernie Sanders is 114 years old.
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And an assassination plot against Bernie Sanders, you just have to wait.
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Like right now, we're killing Bernie Sanders.
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Oh no.
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You know, it's like these teenagers are going to a political rally.
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It just seems like the people who support Trump a lot of times when they interview him.
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They support Trump because it pisses everybody else off.
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Like, that's what it's become.
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I think that's part of it.
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And it really, and it's either like some woman going,
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Oh no, Trump's bad, but not well.
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Or it's some dude who's never voted in his fucking life,
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and he's 50, and he's like, I'm going to register to vote.
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Because this piece of shit should be president because that's hilarious.
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It's like in his head.