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Defying Limits: Tyler Brey's Tale of Transformation from BJJ Black Belt to Bodybuilding Pro · Your Thoughts Your Reality

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to your Thoughts, your Reality with Michael Cole, the podcast that shines a compassionate light on the journey of veterans battling through life's challenges.
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  Speaker 1: Michael is a dual elite certified neuro encoding specialist in coaching and keynote training presentations dedicated to guiding military veterans as they navigate the intricate pathways of post-deployment life.
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  Speaker 1: Join him as we delve into the profound realm of neuro-encoding science, empowering these brave individuals to conquer universal battles, procrastination, self-doubt, fear and more.
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  Speaker 1: Together, let's uncover the strength within you to re-engage with families and society, forging a new path forward.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, hello, hello everybody, family and friends.
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  Speaker 2: Today we have Coach Tyler Bray.
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  Speaker 2: Known Tyler for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you, man.
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  Speaker 2: We've known each other.
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  Speaker 2: He used to train wrestlers with my son and he did strength and conditioning with him for a little while and that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to call him Coach.
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  Speaker 2: I can't call him Tyler Brave, because that's just not the way I know him.
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  Speaker 2: So, coach, welcome man.
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  Speaker 2: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely so.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a little while.
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  Speaker 2: We've known each other.
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  Speaker 2: For what?
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  Speaker 2: 10, 15 years now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to say that when did Michael graduate?
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  Speaker 3: Like 2012-ish.
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  Speaker 2: You know what you need to ask Susan that I'm horrible about years brother I think something like 2011, 12.
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  Speaker 3: It was somewhere in that range, when that time period was when I was coaching that group of wrestlers Something like that when I was coaching that group of wrestlers, something like that yeah, it was, it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was good to get great, to get to know you at the time and, of course, keep up with you and all the amazing things you were doing.
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  Speaker 2: So so, coach, you know a lot of people don't don't know you, but they're about to right.
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  Speaker 2: So coach Bray has was born with spina bifida and this is one of the baddest men that I know was born with spina bifida and this is one of the baddest men that I know.
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  Speaker 2: He is a Brazilian jujitsu black belt to a degree.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't even keep track anymore.
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  Speaker 2: He's just enjoying the journey.
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  Speaker 2: We were just catching up everybody.
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  Speaker 2: So you know coach Bray does that, he does training, professional bodybuilding, and does it himself.
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  Speaker 2: So, coach, why don't you catch us up a little bit on the uh, the bodybuilding and what you've been up to?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, um, the the gist of that.
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  Speaker 3: I was born with spina bifida.
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  Speaker 3: Um, when it comes to bodybuilding, and especially like um, ifbb, professional bodybuilding, that um, that organization, ifbb, that's kind of like the NBA or the NFL, like that's like the highest organization in the bodybuilding world and it's taken quite a long time for the wheelchair division to kind of build their place there.
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  Speaker 3: Those that follow bodybuilding or loosely have heard of it because of Arnold.
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  Speaker 3: The Olympia is our Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: If you win the Olympia, you're the top bodybuilder in the world.
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  Speaker 3: That's the toper in the world, that's the top show in the world for all the different bodybuilding divisions, and the wheelchair division has been part of the Olympia since 2018.
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  Speaker 3: So really not that long.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody starts off at the amateur level and then, when you do good enough on a national level, you win your pro card Right, and now you go to that IFBB professional level.
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  Speaker 3: I won my pro card in 2018, the same year that the Olympia allowed the wheelchair division to.
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  Speaker 3: You know, join them.
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  Speaker 2: So fantastic, fantastic, so, and you go back each year and just keep focusing on building more and so on.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, and then we have.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's really all about qualifying for the Olympia.
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  Speaker 3: So you have all these shows planned out throughout the year and if you do well enough at the shows, then you've qualified to go to the Super Bowl of our sport, which is the Olympia.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know that's what we're, that's what every body builder is essentially chasing at the pro level.
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  Speaker 3: Can I go back to the Olympia?
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  Speaker 3: Can I win the Olympia?
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  Speaker 3: Can I place higher at the Olympia than last year?
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  Speaker 3: So the other shows I do outside of the Olympia is all about qualifying for the Olympia.
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  Speaker 2: That's fantastic, and I mean I've seen pictures of you and so on.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I think your main picture on your social media and stuff is one of those pictures.
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  Speaker 2: Is that correct?
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  Speaker 3: Yep, that's from the Olympia two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, oh, looks like we may have got cut off.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, tyler, did you hear the question?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that picture.
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  Speaker 3: That's from the Olympia two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and I'll tell you now I've seen pictures.
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  Speaker 2: You're way bigger now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm all fine, amen.
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  Speaker 2: It's all about that.
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  Speaker 2: Growth, right, moving forward in anything in life, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So same thing with your brazilian jiu-jitsu.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you, just you are, I'm just gonna say it, man, you're, you're the, the guy that you look at and say you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any damn excuse, get up and go, go to the gym, go work out out, go eat.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you just embody that all around.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing's going to stop me, guy, yep, thanks.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: You're truly someone I look up to, man, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: So question for you as far as your, you know, teaching, bodybuilding, your training and so on.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing with that?
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  Speaker 2: You have clients and so on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my main job is I'm a personal trainer in Roseville and I'm working with clients of all different goals.
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  Speaker 3: I work with just mainly a lot of kind of regular people just trying to get healthier, get in better shape.
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  Speaker 3: You know so a lot of kind of regular people just trying to get healthier, get in better shape.
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  Speaker 3: You know a lot of just like lifestyle clients.
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  Speaker 3: And then I got a couple of competitors trying to get on the bodybuilding stage, do a bikini show, stuff like that, and then I got a handful of wrestling and jujitsu clients too that are trying to get stronger for that and work around injuries and stuff too.
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  Speaker 3: So I do work with a good handful of different types of clients.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent.
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  Speaker 2: So for people to get a hold of you, how do they reach out to?
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  Speaker 3: you Mainly through social media, so Facebook or Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: On my Instagram it's Black Belt Bodybuilding, and then on Facebook it's just my name, Tyler Bray.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, excellent.
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  Speaker 2: So with the professional bodybuilding you started.
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  Speaker 2: How many years ago, would you say?
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  Speaker 3: Well, so I did my first amateur show in 2015.
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  Speaker 3: And then I did pretty good at that but didn't win my pro card.
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  Speaker 3: And then I kept training and training and then I did nationals again in 2018.
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  Speaker 3: That's when I won my pro card.
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  Speaker 3: And then, coincidentally, that was the same year that the wheelchair division became part of the Olympia.
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  Speaker 3: So then it kind of stumbled into that and I was part of the first wheelchair Olympia.
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  Speaker 3: And now here I am, all these years later, and it's just been kind of a wild ride, one thing leading to the next.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been fantastic to watch you.
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  Speaker 2: It truly has.
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  Speaker 2: So let me ask you something um, you know, I know you're you're training people and you you train for brazilian jiu-jitsu.
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  Speaker 2: You train for um, competitions and just life, right?
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  Speaker 2: So what do you think some of the best benefits, especially for our veterans out there, that really mentally and emotionally, um, the benefits of good exercise, working out and that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Give us a couple of those.
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  Speaker 3: I rant on that for hours, but that's the foundation of everything about this machine.
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  Speaker 3: That's your body, right.
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  Speaker 3: When you clean your car, you change the oil, all the things you do to keep your car running.
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  Speaker 3: That's what diet and exercise is, you know, and it's been linked to absolutely everything.
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  Speaker 3: I could tell story after story, but improper diet, unhealthy diet and lack of exercise 100% has been linked to depression.
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  Speaker 3: It's been like chemically linked to it.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and just about every issue that you have in your body.
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  Speaker 3: You can fix almost everything through proper diet and exercise.
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  Speaker 3: And now different diets and different training programs.
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  Speaker 3: They're tools.
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  Speaker 3: So people will ask like what do you think of keto?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think of carnivore?
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  Speaker 3: What do you think of intermittent fasting?
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  Speaker 3: Well, those are all tools.
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  Speaker 3: What am I trying to do?
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  Speaker 3: There's no right diet.
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  Speaker 3: It's what's the right diet for the right goal.
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  Speaker 3: None of them are good or bad.
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  Speaker 3: What's the goal?
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  Speaker 3: What am I trying to do right now?
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  Speaker 2: it for the right goal.
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  Speaker 2: None of them are good or bad.
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  Speaker 2: What's the goal?
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  Speaker 2: What am I trying to do right now?
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  Speaker 2: Right, and question for you, if I can, really quick, so when you have these, if you will, I'm going to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to call them fad diets Cause, like you said, they're tools, right, like for me, for instance.
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  Speaker 2: Um, you know, I've been 250 pounds, I'm running about 200 now and I've changed my relationship with food.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's not, it's not about just eating for pleasure, it's about eating for fueling my body, you know getting away from processed sugars and all of those different things and it's sustainable.
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  Speaker 2: Where I did keto, I kind of before keto was a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I just did some research and did my own diet, right, but it wasn't sustainable.
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  Speaker 2: You know, back then then and keep in mind this was a while ago you didn't eat vegetables, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It was like that's a carb.
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  Speaker 2: Don't eat that, but eat, eat all this cheese, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So would you call them fad diets or would you just say they're tools but you just have to be smart about how you do them?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're tools.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean every client I get.
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  Speaker 3: I have that conversation with them of what are we trying to solve?
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  Speaker 3: You know, what problem are we trying to fix?
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  Speaker 3: How are we trying to improve you?
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  Speaker 3: And then I get to know the personality type and I have people doing so many different types of things.
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  Speaker 3: I have people that for them they do keto all the time, all year long, and for their personality type it's sustainable.
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  Speaker 3: But then you know it's everyone's different and I will say like, okay, is keto good for this goal?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, is it good for that goal?
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  Speaker 3: No, is intermittent fasting good for this goal?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, is it good for that goal?
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  Speaker 3: No, right, so what's our goal we're trying to accomplish with your diet and can we keep those results, whatever those results are?
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  Speaker 3: That's the sustainability part and that's like personality dependent.
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  Speaker 3: And what do you do for work?
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  Speaker 3: How busy is your life?
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  Speaker 3: So there's so many variables.
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  Speaker 3: But they say, like compliance, is the science right?
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  Speaker 3: What can you be compliant about?
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  Speaker 3: So one of the first things I say to all my clients, as I'm getting to know them, is like, ok, so we could do, you know, three big meals a day or six small meals a day, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: Which one are you going to follow, that's the one we're going to do.
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  Speaker 3: It does not matter, you're overthinking it.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And coach.
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  Speaker 2: That's such a great point honestly.
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  Speaker 2: And and you know my training with the neuron coding science is assassinate complexity, because if you make it too difficult for people guess what, they aren't going to follow it and they're going to be off it in a minute.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't care if that's a coaching for your mental state or just your physiology or your physical being.
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  Speaker 2: You know it's all connected in that sense, so it's a great great point that you bring up there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's all connected in that sense, so it's a great great point that you bring up there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So please, please, continue.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm huge on that and I get to know my clients.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I do personal training.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not big on like group stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not against it if I was really asked to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But I love personal training because I want to get to know every single one of my clients and figure out what's the right tool for them.
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  Speaker 3: And even if I meet three women with exactly the same weight loss goals and whatever, it doesn't mean they're going to have the same playbook, right, because what is sustainable for one isn't sustainable for another.
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  Speaker 3: So I really try to figure out what's the right tool and how do I make that tool sustainable for this unique individual with their life and their personality, and I love figuring that out.
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  Speaker 2: So it's really figuring out what and I know I use this all the time with my coaching it's really figuring out what they want.
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  Speaker 2: What they really want Is it I just want to be healthier?
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  Speaker 2: Do I just want to be able to get out of my chair and not go?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, is it is.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go do a bodybuilding competition and then creating those smart goals right With timelines and measurable goals, I think is also super important for what you're doing as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I've seen this over time and I was just talking to a client a couple hours ago about this.
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  Speaker 3: I see this with personal training, working with my fitness clients.
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  Speaker 3: I see it when I'm coaching wrestlers.
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  Speaker 3: I see it when I'm coaching jujitsu people.
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  Speaker 3: We have a problem and you're not really like getting specific with the problem or getting specific with what results you want.
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  Speaker 3: Someone will come in and say, well, I want to get more fit.
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  Speaker 3: Like what does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: You're?
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  Speaker 3: You're not 5,000 pounds.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean to some people you are fit.
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  Speaker 2: And that's it it.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean to them?
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: It's their model of the world, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's where I help people get really specific with everything.
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  Speaker 3: I probably annoy half my clients and half my jiu-jitsu athletes that I coach because I'm always asking really specific questions, because I'm like you're not phrasing the question to yourself specific enough, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: I want to lose weight, like well, how much weight and like?
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  Speaker 3: Are we going like?
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  Speaker 3: I'll ask my clients are we mostly going for aesthetic goals you want to transform yourself through progress pictures and you physically look better or are you more motivated by strength goals, like I want to be able to do 10 pull-ups or you know which one gets you excited, cause that does change the plan I'm going to create for you.
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  Speaker 2: You know Absolutely, absolutely, and when you have those goals and they can see that actually happening.
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  Speaker 2: And what I've done with my coaching practices is I have five, five areas of life that we coach with.
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  Speaker 2: And then I started off with them filling the paperwork out and kind of going through the basics.
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  Speaker 2: But then it's when they don't realize how much progress they've made.
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  Speaker 2: But you've seen it and I'm sure you see this as well, whether it be strength or they're not panting on the treadmill or whatever the case may be.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you all of a sudden say hey, but look, two weeks ago you were here.
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  Speaker 2: Look where you are now.
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  Speaker 2: Celebrate the hell out of that, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, I track all data.
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  Speaker 3: There's so much data I track and like.
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  Speaker 3: So, using fitness as the example, I've had people not change that much on the scale but in their progress pictures they're massively different.
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  Speaker 3: Right, absolutely the scale.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to check it because it's data Progress pictures.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to do that because it's data.
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  Speaker 3: Strength is data.
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  Speaker 3: Blood work improvement is data.
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  Speaker 3: All these different things are just data.
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  Speaker 3: So we're going to look at all of them.
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  Speaker 3: And whenever I have a discouraged client like why didn't I get more results by now?
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  Speaker 3: Like yeah, you did, you're underestimating.
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  Speaker 3: I've done that so many times where I've sent clients back their own progress pictures from six months ago versus today in a side by side and they had no idea how much they changed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really and it's amazing when they do see it and they have that aha moment or that oh shit, you're right, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And you know it's really important, obviously, that they're the oh shit, you're right, yep.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 2: And you know it's really important, obviously, that they're the hero and you're just the guide right to get them there so that they know they can do it on their own at some point and and move forward with that and other things in life.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: So it's really, it's really neat and I'm sure you see it as well, like you were saying, when they have that aha or oh shit moment, if you will, yes, yep.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then, like you just said too, is like I like another way.
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  Speaker 3: I like to think of what I'm doing for my clients, especially my lifestyle clients, just trying to get a little more fit, a little more healthy, trying to empower them with the weapons to control the ship.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I'm in the direction that the ship is going at all points.
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  Speaker 3: So the example I give is like if I have a client who I've trained for a long time I've taught him a lot of skills and everything.
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  Speaker 3: I've taught him how to control the ship and let's say they're going on a cruise for a week, I'll tell the client hey, it's your choice.
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  Speaker 3: While you're on that cruise for a week, you could eat and drink everything under the sun.
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  Speaker 3: You can get drunk every night.
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  Speaker 3: You could go crazy.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to come back 10 pounds heavy.
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  Speaker 3: You know that, but we'll clean up the mess when you get back.
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  Speaker 3: We know how to clean up the mess.
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  Speaker 3: We've already done it.
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  Speaker 3: I've taught you the skills.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead and have fun on your vacation.
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  Speaker 3: We'll clean up the mess when you get back.
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  Speaker 3: Or, if you don't want to backtrack on any of the progress we've made, stay on the plan the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: You're on the cruise, but you're in control of that.
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  Speaker 3: I've taught you how to do either one of those, so you get to choose, you know choices, choices.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Life is about that, right it's choices.
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  Speaker 3: And knowing, because I have the tools, I can choose either path.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: You know Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: You can get up in the morning and get up there and go do your workout, or you can go and hit the bar and eat breakfast and so on.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Right, absolutely.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: So, um, for military, this is a fantastic, by the way, coach.
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  Speaker 2: Really appreciate you taking the time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm honored, you know.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I, as as you everybody hears me say over and over again.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: You know, time is our most precious resources, humans, and I'm so honored and appreciate you taking this time Truly am so thank you.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: So let's kind of move a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Are there any newer?
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  Speaker 2: Again, I don't like calling them fad diets.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with tools.
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  Speaker 2: I really like the way you said that, because they serve a purpose, like a hammer or a screwdriver.
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  Speaker 2: Are there any newer tools that are out in the tool belt?
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  Speaker 3: How would I phrase this?
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  Speaker 3: I know what I want to say in my head.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out how to put it into words.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: But basically a new diet comes out or something, and people think it's an easy button right.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: There's certain rules you have to obey, no matter what diet you're doing.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: So let's use fat loss as the easy example, right, so we could do keto, we could do carnivore, we could do vegan, we could do all these different diets and achieve fat loss.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: What is fat loss?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Burn more calories than you put in right.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: So well, I'm gonna do intermittent fasting to get some fat off my body, like, well, okay, you're eating within a six hour window, but if you eat 10 000 calories in the six hour window, you're still not going to lose weight.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: You're not.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: You're breaking the, the foundational rule.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: The rule is earn more calories than you put in.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: So intermittent fasting isn't an easy button, you know, to give you, you know, freedom to eat whatever you want and have 10,000 calories in your six hour window.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: You're still not going to wait Right, absolutely so with intermittent fasting, since you bring that up, great tool, I do it.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I have a six hour window ish that I do and it's helped with inflammation and all kinds of other things.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Um, any, any feedback or any tips you want to give on intermittent fasting?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: So what you just said is like, okay, I'm doing this tool because I'm trying to fight inflammation.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like cool, we identified the problem.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Here's a couple of tools we could use.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Are we going with a screwdriver or a wrench Like what are we doing?
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: So, as long as we're picking the right tool for the right job, go for it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: So like I don't tell my clients like you must do this.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I'm like what problem are we trying to solve?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I have some clients that do intermittent fasting.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Are we trying to solve?
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I have some clients that do intermittent fasting.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: I have some clients do carnivore.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I have some clients do carb cycling.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I have some clients that the type of diet they're doing is just a balanced diet and it doesn't have a name.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just a balance.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: All of them have seen success in whatever they were trying to solve Right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: So it's like they're all just tools, you know, and and if your body, if your particular body, your particular genetics loved it, your inflammation went down.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Awesome, you've, you've found the right tool for the right job for you.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, thank you, and I appreciate that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, and for for me and actually Susan as well and I'm pretty sure she's on here listening it really did a lot of good for us, you know, and we're I don't know if it's an age thing or whatever or, like you said, genetic makeup or whatever the case may be, but I've done other things that didn't work at all, you know, and it was miserable.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Where, again, we've changed our relationship with food to you know, get away from the processed sugars, don't eat out of a box.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there she is, she's on, she just chimed in there.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: We got away from, you know, all of those things and just got to natural and weight drops off with just some movement.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: So my question, I guess, to you, from based on that, is what do you find the relationship from exercise to nutrition when people want to lose weight?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me rephrase that lose fat, because there's all kinds of.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I lose weight, but I've built muscle, you know.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: So it offsets each other and I mean there's a lot of misconceptions with you know my BMI, right, it needs to be this.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Well, what if you're 90% muscle, right?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I've always shaken my head.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: It's like this doesn't make any sense, because each body type is going to be different.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: So I'll use myself as the example when I do my bodybuilding shows.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I do two to three bodybuilding shows a year.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: So okay, tyler, what's your body fat when you step on stage?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I have no idea, I don't care.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Like I'm looking in the mirror, do I look good?
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: If I still have some fat that I want to get rid of, I get rid of it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I don't care about what exactly my body fat is.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: You know so that you should like.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: The only time that your weight matters is if you are a wrestler or a jujitsu person and you have to make a weight class.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Right, you got to get down to a certain weight class.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Only time matters, right?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Other than that, I tell every one of my clients our goal isn't a weight.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Our goal is get you good looking and strong.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: That's it, and whatever weight happens to be is totally irrelevant.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree 100%.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So like.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: For me, as I've, you know, gotten older, it's more about feeling good and strength.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: It's not about my abs, right you know, because that's just not important to me.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: It's about strength, because in 30 years I don't want to fall down and break a hip.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I want to be strong enough to support myself, and that's what I've seen.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming you have seen, or at least my hypothesis that that's why a lot of older people have these injuries and so on is because they're not taking care of themselves.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: They stop exercising, they stop strength training and then they end up with these kinds of issues.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Does that sound correct to you?
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll try not to go on too big of a rant about that.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Please do, man, please do.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: For that one.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I guess that's one of them.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: That irritates me is age is massively overly blamed, right?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: So you and I are going to buy a car today with zero miles on it and in 100,000 miles from now, both of our cars are equally messed up.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: No, which one of us took care of the car better?
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Right, if you totally took care of your car for a hundred thousand miles?
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I drove the car like a stupid teenager and, you know, was speeding down the highway every day.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Never changed the oil Never, I'm like right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: So I never changed the oil never, I'm like right.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: So I love that 100 000 miles, or is it about how do you take care of your car?
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that analogy, so that one drives me nuts.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I'll brag about one of my clients, deb.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: She is 62 or 63, outrageously stronger than when she came in.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: She started working with me at 60, so in two, two to three years she is doing like up toward 10 pull-ups.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: She can do a good six or seven dips full body weight.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: She can deadlift her body weight 15 to 20 times Like.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: She's gotten way stronger in two to three years, right, way, way, way stronger than she walked in the door.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: But what does, like?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: The media say Well, once you're this age, you can't build muscle anymore.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Like, nope wrong, yeah, not an age thing.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: And you see that more and more.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: You see that more and more.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I mean you're seeing Gene Titus.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: You know Titus Unlimited.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: He's I don't, I'm not sure, but he's 50 plus and looks amazing.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I mean the dude is cut more than a 20 year old, you know.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: So I I've been looking at that as well and just seeing that age, in fact would you say that building more muscle and working out and exercising actually helps you age better.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing, is the media message that's out there is, once you're over 45 years old, you can't build muscle.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: I'm like that is very scientifically proven to not be true.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: You're straight lying.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Or like what are you talking about?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Right, and I've helped so many, and like my client, deb, deb is just a fantastic example, because like it's crazy how strong she's gotten in two or three years when she's 62, 63, you know, and so just I hate hearing that one and like, like another example is okay, I'm a guy and I'm 47 years old and I felt a little down, so I went and got blood work and my testosterone is really low.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: It's because I'm 47.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Like no, it's because you sleep like shit and Arby's for lunch and that's the only meal you had today.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: You're deficient in everything.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: You're deficient in all the vitamins.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: You haven't had a fruit or a veggie in 10 years.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Your sleep is terrible, right, because here's the thing though.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: So your sleep and then all your vitamins and minerals and stuff, that's what makes your body work correctly.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: That's what makes the testosterone produce.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: That's what makes your body work correctly.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: You're deficient in all those things.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: So, of course, your testosterone is low.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: It's not your age.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: It's your lack of taking care of the car.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and put down the beer and pick up the water.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, because I know water is so important.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about that a little bit and how that helps the body?
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Everything, it's everything.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: It's all the vitamins and minerals, it's your water, it's your salt, it's your sleep.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: So it's no stone left unturned, there's no question.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not asking my clients as we get going how much water are you drinking every day and what's the right amount for you?
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: That can be kind of negotiable, depends on a lot of variables.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: And how much do you sweat?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I think about the wrestlers, some of them.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: They were just dripping in sweat in five minutes of the warm up.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Right, ok, you probably need more water.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: You lose a lot of water really quick.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: But so it's very case by case.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: But you have to have your water, you have to have your salt, you have to have all the different electrolytes, vitamins and minerals.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: You have to nail your sleep.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: You know there's so many things that you got to nail.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And now if you're nailing all those things and your testosterone is still low or whatever, then you could say you legitimately have a problem and something's going on, right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Odds are it's going to be more of a hormone thing than an age thing, yes, yeah, right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: So that's what I mean is like if you're crossing all the T's and dotting all the I's with the water and the food and the sleep and blah, blah, blah, most of the time that's going to fix whatever your hormonal issue is Right.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: If it doesn't, okay, then I'll shut up and you got to go do something else.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: You know you have a different issue, but there's so many people that don't realize they could fix those things in that way, right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And then I'll give you a extreme example A good friend of mine, javier Vasquez.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: He was a WEC and UFC fighter, so legendary fighter, really like world-class black belt, amazing black belt in jujitsu.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: He cured his cancer in less than a year, fully with diet.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, All the scans to prove it I have.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I have heard heard more stories about that kind of thing happening, man.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: And it's they go, they do it naturally and they're not going through and doing all.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm not hey, everybody this, I'm not a medical doctor.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying go do this just saying that now, but I've seen more and more with the right mindset and the right nutrition and so on, and beating cancer without doing some of the horrific things that people do to their bodies for it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yep, less than a year his cancer was gone.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: It was nothing but diet.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: It was a extreme diet that you wouldn't do unless you were in an extreme situation like that, but less than a year his cancer is gone.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: He's got all the scans to prove it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's fantastic.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Hey, I just want to celebrate him.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I just want to celebrate him for doing it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: You him, I just want to celebrate him for doing it.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: You know not, you know just getting his mind in the right place and doing it, man, yep, hey, coach, this has been amazing.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: We're getting towards the end of our time and literally, man, I could spend three more hours talking to you about all this stuff.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: It's a huge passion of mine, you know, and I just know how much it helps people emotionally and so on.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: So I'd like to kind of wrap this back up in a nice little bow with back to the vets.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Give us three tips for veterans and or veterans families to start a workout, to obviously make the choice and get up in the morning and go out and do it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: What are your three tips for veterans or family members to start?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Just start Number one.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say it okay, take action, make a plan and do it today, because there is no tomorrow, right?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Because you keep saying tomorrow and this is where you are.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: So let me just go back to you.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: So what are the three tips that you would say, just to get them started?
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: are the three tips that you would say, just to get them started.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get started with what's going to be convenient, you know.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: So, okay, let's do a home workout.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: You don't have to go to the gym.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: If it's too convenient, fine, workout at home, whatever.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: So, like compliance, is the science, what's going?
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: What are you going to be compliant to Get some workout equipment in your garage, right, if you're not going to go to the gym.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Or, for me, I like the gym because just the lights and everything, it kind of gets me excited.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I like the social atmosphere.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: So, if you need that, go to the gym because it just gets you excited, whatever you know, but that'd be a major thing.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: And the other thing that I want to make sure I mentioned it is the first thing I talk about with all my clients and it's just, it's something that everybody needs to know about fitness get the most results with the least effort.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, so, especially guys, we are going to watch, you know, a Rocky movie and then we're going to try to go run a hundred miles and, right, I want my chest to look like Arnold.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to go couch potato to the 3000 set chest workout.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Like, don't do that.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: No, go in and like how can I do just one or two chest exercises?
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: That is it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Just like two or three sets on two chest exercises, that is it.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I want to get the most growth from that as possible for as long as possible before I go to three exercises.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Right, same with cardio, same with everything.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Don't start off with craziness with anything.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Try to get the most results in your muscle gains and your fat loss with the laziest, easiest program.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Then, when you plateau, then you can start upping it to break the plateau.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, so and also, if you go in and you go, you know rocky style and I, I have a line from rocky that I love, I I use it all the time, in fact I think somebody just brought it up that's funny.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Um, we're rocky balboa, um, and apollo creed, and I'm going way over time, but it's my show so I can right.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: So, uh, there it's.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's rocky's Rocky three, where Apollo is training Rocky and he's Rocky's tired, he's fighting with his wife and he's Adrian.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: He's just like tomorrow, apollo, tomorrow.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: And what does he say?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: There is no tomorrow, rock, there is no tomorrow, there is no tomorrow.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: So I always think of that line and someone just pulled it up.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Awesome tips.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Do you have one more before we go?
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: So make it something you can follow with your diet and your training, whether it's home training, whatever.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Make it something you can follow.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Most results, least effort, and nail the basics right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: So nail your sleep, take your sleep seriously, that is your hormone health, right there.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: And now follow the type of diet again that you can follow.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Am I getting a wide range of nutrients?
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Am I getting fiber?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Am I just crossing all the T's and dotting all the I's within my knowledge level?
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Right, you know.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: And then, if you don't have much knowledge on the topic, go work with a coach.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: But like master, master, master the basics.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Don't get caught up in the fancy stuff you see online.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: I hate when I see A high school boy.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Typically he's in the gym and he's a small, skinny little guy and he's doing this fancy shoulder press thing.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: And I'm thinking like you can't do a regular shoulder press with heavier than the 15s.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Why are you doing a fancy, crazy movement, right?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm thinking like you can't do a regular shoulder press with heavier than the 15s.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Why are you doing a fancy, crazy movement, right?
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Do a shoulder press and work up to the 60s.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Get strong at the basics, you know.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Absolutely Fantastic advice, hey coach, once again, if you can please, and I want to circle back real quick.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Kind of like Joseph McLennan III, he always says lastly, but it's not.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: So what, what?
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: How do people reach you again?
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Give us that one more time.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: So my Facebook just type in my name, tyler Bray, or on Instagram Black Belt Bodybuilding.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: So I just want I just want to wrap up veterans, you know we're here, reach out to us.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: We're here to give tips.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Please go to the little barcode over there on the top right-hand side, scan our QR code.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: We are here to help to give resources and there's lots of resources, free books, all kinds of stuff there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: So, Tyler, I just want to again thank you.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I'm honored.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: You were here with us and gave us some fantastic, fantastic advice and information, so really appreciate the time.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Sir, Absolutely.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: We will talk to you soon.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: We're out.
• 34:22
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• 34:29
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• 34:32
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• 34:39
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• 34:44
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• 34:49
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