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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.30.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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[SPEAKER_00]: The buzz is all around, the orange clowns are coming into town.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They say the team is good, but they're ill and annoyed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're obviously dubious, who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The IU report is here with wisdom to impart time to forego some of these basketball traditions That you Martha and never ever ever had in line behind Brett B. Lemma at a porta potty It's a small space
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the IU report with Grant Shows and Mike Hutssel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Every Tuesday afternoon on the Central Indiana Sports Report, please come back for our official IU Illinois Preview Thursday evening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here they are, Greg, Grant and Mike.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome, these are fans of the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's IU Report with Grant Shows and my Cutsl, Big Week Grant Take It Away.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like we've been talking about this forever now, since the season began, we've been thinking
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's time to start really diving in Illinois and digesting them and knowing what they can do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they're a good team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is, this is no slouts for either team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Gotta be able to play, gotta be able to move the ball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Gotta be able to do the intangibles.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You gotta do to win the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm confident that Indiana could come out there on Saturday night with a win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we talked, we've talked all season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like the first three games were simply the on ramp to this to this one and we've picked up Steam and speed since game one game one was a little slow game two looked a lot better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Game three was just a debacle for Indian estate and now you've got a game against the team that thinks that you're rival, but it's not the the the whining a lie and I
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[SPEAKER_02]: led by the man that you least want to see the big tin coach you least want to see walking out of the porta pot when you're walking in brought belemma.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's always been Wisconsin's coach and belemma just took it anywhere, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean he was Wisconsin's coach for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's always been coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You took the crown with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He takes that title anywhere he goes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he's the one dude that I feel like, you know, he might be one of the only ones I think I could lose in eating challenge against.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Biggest rivalry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Biggest.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Buff the lilies before the game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He'd be definitely out of eat me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I say, but Brett's biggest rival isn't any big 10 program.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Golden Correl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the things that stood out to me is usually with Brett, who I was like to call him Burke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His teams are so physical and so good on the offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't get the sense that this Illinois team is particularly great on the offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And with Indiana's defense of line,
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[SPEAKER_02]: being what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Illinois is the 17th graded offensive line in the big tin, Indiana's got one of the top graded defensive lines in the big tin, they lead the conference, I think, and have it plays in Illinois leads and have it plays allowed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not normal in these type of games where Indiana is playing a team that's ranked in the top 10, one of these big
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[SPEAKER_02]: where they could potentially be the more physical team on the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that might well be the case coming into this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Indiana can control the line of scrimmage on defense, the way they have, I don't think you're going to see them keep this team out of the end zone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be a lofty goal like they've done the last two opponents.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if they can limit the running game, make this a one-dimensional with Luke Altmire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that bows well for Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_03]: When you, I want to remind everybody real fast that this is not the IU Illinois Preview, but we promised that we would do an IU Illinois Preview like five-strike podcasts.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, this is the Illinois Preview part four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's right, and we'll support five on front.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So my thing is here is if you really think about it and you think about how Indiana's only allowed canisaw to hit three field goals against them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Shut out Indiana State when you really think about it and the grand scheme of things through three weeks, Indiana's only given up two plays.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You really think, now they had the chunk plays where canisaw was able to move the ball down the field, but again, we've talked about it on here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Who really cares what they allowed between the 20s?
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[SPEAKER_04]: From 20 yard line to 20 yard line,
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't have to point out, Bill, that we're talking about Kinesa on NVIDIA, so it's a little different.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I understand, but it's just thought that Kavya was important.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, but when you go back to the old Dominion game and this is how that team end up doing this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Probably better than an active.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, they beat Virginia Tech over the weekend and like you call it, they actually got Virginia Tech to fire its coach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that that old the minion team was good and if again, you really think about it, Indiana only gave up two plays, two long rounds for a touchdown and who cares it happens between the two 20s.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Mike, just stop in the red team, I you won 85 to 90% of the plays in that game and then it's all you can ask for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Indiana, you know, going back to the line play, and he has now three straight games with 300 yards rushing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so the physicality isn't just limited to the D line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's clear that both adds, you know, pushing a little bit more on the O line as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Still think there's some issues at right tackle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a big Cleal Bints and Orz in the House key fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But going into this game, I wanted to see what the line would look like and what
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[SPEAKER_02]: the line would do once it opened and it opened at three and a half it moved to four and a half and it hasn't moved from four and a half and a lot of the money's coming in on Illinois.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that tells me Vegas thinks they've got this thing right and they are just cleaning up on sucker bets for Illinois.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That could be wrong that's an an exact science but there's awfully nice casinos out in Vegas that they've built with the money from
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh uh uh that's that's a pretty good indicator to me of what the mindset and what the people see when they put these two teams side by side.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And Vegas is never wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're sometimes rarely wrong.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good sign.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I watched that game Ellen only met Western Michigan the other night and the first half I'll give Western Michigan a lot of credit um they hung in there could put it in the
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[SPEAKER_04]: They played well, they held it on the way to 10 points on the first half.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a real giveaway credit in the second half, they came out fired at it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They wrote a move to the ball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They got a good quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They got guys that can move the ball up and down the field.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's pretty impressive to see the way that offense can go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it's just not better than Indiana's offense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Indiana's offense is just a
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[SPEAKER_04]: as more explosive at times than Illinois's and they just they think they push the ball better up the field than Illinois can Illinois think it's almost too methodical with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How they do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Indiana's way more explosive I seriously don't want to jinx things, but I'm saying this is this is gonna be no contest Really really
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like your level of optimism.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really ready to go there just yet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I cannot take no-one oyster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just cannot take no-one oyster, and I do take Kurt Signetti very seriously.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, my thing is, is that I think it's rather just games where if Indiana wins, it'll be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: by three or four scores.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it fell on the way wins.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's by a slim margin.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think there's any in between.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think Illinois wins in a blowout and I don't think I even wins a close one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There is zero in between.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If we do, I think it's one of those games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If they do win by three touchdowns, they come out of the weekend on the top 10.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Indiana.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, it should, but they won.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: McMurphy may consider possibly putting them in his others receiving votes at that point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the, the clown show that is the AP ball is, is continuing to expose itself collectively, you know, we could go on and on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know exactly who in the group chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just made my point to just dismantle this weekend, but who you play matters, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell that to South Florida,
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[SPEAKER_02]: lost to the number 14 in the country, and they mysteriously were removed from the top 25.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Notre Dame, who you play matters, you don't have to beat him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's at the play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Notre Dame who loses and then gets a buy week every time they lose because they did it after week one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this week they had Purdue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_04]: to say there's strength to schedule is not what people have made it out to me it's pretty good not this week that's there one kept cake as I said on this week's pretty report that they might not be as bad as we thought but they still might they are better I'll give them that they looked if they did better things at better points in the game than previous in the previous season.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't I wouldn't say that they're not good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's I think you could probably factor in the three-hour delay to live them in the Washington UCLA Rutgers produce.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about UCLA UCLA basically a big sky team at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just those teams that are in the bottom not named Northwestern.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're all at training for the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, USC better be good because that's Notre Dame's tough as game remaining.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's their one chance at a win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, I mean, they're going to, they're going to talk all last year about Indian and not playing anybody and you know, only losing to the good teams they played.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Notre Dame could be sitting here at 10 and two at the end of the year with no ranked wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same argument that they made against Indian last year, but they started the year in the top 10 and they have yet to fall out of the ranking.
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[SPEAKER_04]: comparing the Duke game to the old Dominion game and this is where the point in the podcast where people are going to be like, oh wow, like these guys are dumb.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I really think I'm right here in that old Dominion is probably 14 to 21 points better than Duke and I think would beat Duke
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[SPEAKER_02]: might not win a head to head Duke.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw a little bit more about how good they were because they came back at the end of the game, but they were absolutely manhandled by two lane for three and a half quarters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And two lanes, a good group of five team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is a really good team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And, close to the main group wave is really cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is really cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thus, best uniforms and colors football.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mother Earth.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But don't ever disrespect the city of New Orleans.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And close to New Orleans is a pretty cool city.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would mind next to any of them, you know what I said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And don't forget Duke took two lane starting quarterback out of the portal and gave him just a stupid some of the money and then two lanes still ran them so That was a pretty fun sub lot to that game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mike, I'm curious on Saturday where where your seats, where are you sitting?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in section 102, I believe, of the visitor section.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it seems to be where you get the cheapest seats on the secondary market.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was also where I was for the old Dominion game, the five old Dominion fans that were at the game were quite friendly, I mean, fun to talk to, but yeah, that I'll be over in the winding a lionized section.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's just, there's not a whole lot you can really take away from the first three conference games.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we knew that coming in, I feel like there is a lot, but it still doesn't, those teams aren't out on the way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But what I think we can take away from the first three
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty bold.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, because they're good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But they're still a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But we're gonna find out a lot about Indiana and Illinois this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But when are lose they have to go back to Illinois?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That champagne or banner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you gotten your rehearsed line yet out yet?
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[SPEAKER_02]: When Indiana does win this game?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Illinois was never that good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They shouldn't have ever been in the top 10.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They weren't that good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: curious what your guys' thoughts are on and I guess we kind of knew this coming in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We talked about Saturday in the reaction, but Kirsten, what your guys' thoughts are on, a big time pre-game show, not coming to Bloomington on Saturday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And more, whether it's a big new kickoff or game day, or even the pathetic big thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a match before we get to that, and I want to get right back to, Grant said that we don't really know much about IU through three games and he's right, we don't know
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's what I gather from watching the three games, and that is, I, you, is really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they are really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think they are top 10 team in the cup.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Here's how I look at it with that is that I would rather I'd weigh rather than fly under the radar.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm good with them flying under the radar until if they win this week then I think the respect then needs to be added and think it's still my not come.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It probably won't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You still complain your way right into it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I still think it takes out on the way in the eye of a game to get your respect because you're not going to beat Oregon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Still won't happen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It will happen till you play Oregon.
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[SPEAKER_03]: competitively.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you can and I'm not sure that's that's a tall test for any team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean Doing up there damn lady has no problem putting a number on you and that's one like
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you guys agree or how much you've seen Oregon, but Dan Landing is maybe one of the more likable coaches in the country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've just those colors in that field.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Nike and the whole thing makes me not like Oregon so cool.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I really like landing and I like the way coaches football.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're the best student in the country from what I've seen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, probably.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, now let me ask you guys this question here curious on your thoughts and we kind of knew this coming in that this probably wasn't going to happen, but I was surprised by what they did select is that there will be no big pre game show on Saturday more no big new kickoff, no college game day and no pathetic big tin tailgate.
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[SPEAKER_04]: as far as I know, coming to Bloomington Saturday, curious on your thoughts and I understand big new kickoffs, stance going to Texas Tech Utah, it's a big 12 game.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They have the right to the big 12 and the big 10, but Colin, they'll play a game of new.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, and Colin's game day going to one and two Florida versus Miami, what are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh absolutely, it would make a lot of sense, but you've got a team in Florida, they're quarterback through more interceptions on Saturday, then they'll get wins in the entire season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the real fact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Five interceptions, if Florida gets to five wins, it'll be a small miracle with their schedule.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It only drives home the fact that this network is going to do whatever
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[SPEAKER_02]: and put it back on the SECNACC because that's what their rights are with and I understand that from a business decision and they're going to inevitably have to go to big 10 games Oregon and Penn State coming up I think Ohio State Oregon still on the schedule but you could want to you could went to Miami in two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My any Florida state's coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You could have went there in two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is just like a slap in the face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would have been fun now, South Carolina losing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Took the shine off that whatever fake Columbia bullshit we talked about last week, rivalry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Columbia Bull.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but they've never gone to a one and two team in like 25 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I read and this team hasn't beaten a power five, power four, power three and a half, whatever we're calling it these days, team this year and who knows when they will.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got Mississippi State.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They already beat Arizona State Kentucky.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's coming a ways down the road.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Florida's terrible guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we saw it again Saturday night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They could not do anything against LSU in lagway who's supposed to be this Heisman level top of the NFL draft guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was completely lost.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, five picks and a prime time game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they get rewarded with this game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is,
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a debacle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it says everything you need to know about ESPN and their business relationship with that conference.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But to be fair, it's a national prime time game and that's more important than these shows coming, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sure, but they have, they've shown they have no problem with flying one of their analysts on a private jet from the show, from the show location, to the game location in another part of the country.
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[SPEAKER_04]: with herb street.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My thing is with college game days, it's one of my favorite shows ever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a part of the tradition if you're a college football.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And for people who are kind of casual college football fans, they don't care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And college game days, you know,
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[SPEAKER_04]: when they make the picks at the end of the show that's like all right now the day can start when you get on with the games and the other day man that show was taken forever felt like they were dragging it out and it was not it's not very good it did not have the aura that it had like I like when they go to schools like Indiana or like when they went to Cal last year there's those were good shows because they're you know they're
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're new.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you're going to Georgia, Tennessee, like, like they're all the top.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're in the SEC all the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're in Columbus, Ohio all the time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And they have no problem going there for a big 10 game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like when Indiana's playing Ohio State there, yeah, they have no problem going there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's just it's one of those things where it's like it doesn't make sense, but then at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to give these guys too much crap because I really liked them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'd rather have a prime time night game on a prime slot on national television than some stupid three-hour show where they really don't interact with the off of camera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the IE basketball team has decided that they will have their red and white
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[SPEAKER_04]: not really a surprise.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I brought it up in our thread just to kind of make mention of it like years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing really to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're having a scrimmage on Friday, October the third is free to the public, which is awesome, you know, be a good night and I take the family out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: See the guys get some autographs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with grand on this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's it's a it's cool that they're going to do the Thursday night on Kirkwood again, not I'm not the target demographic for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I'll be in attendance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sounds like a ton of fun though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I was grand sage, I would be there camped out at three in the afternoon and I'm for everything ahead.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to try and be there because I'm probably missed Thursday night to do I got volleyball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got to do volleyball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and stomach volleyball.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know when I'll get my schedule here in a couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So if October the second's open, I'll be there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it is cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that is cool.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do the Thursday night and Friday night have your scrimmage and then really the season doesn't open for another month after that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're not playing another regular, you're not playing a regular season game.
21:09
[SPEAKER_04]: But you have your exhibition preseason with.
21:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Marian.
21:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
21:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.
21:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't go to it on forum so mad about it.
21:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't go to it.
21:19
[SPEAKER_04]: It's on Friday.
21:20
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Christmas.
21:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
21:21
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, tastic to the schedule.
21:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's cool if you're, it's cool if you're classic IE fan.
21:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
21:27
[SPEAKER_04]: It's cool.
21:28
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, paths back.
21:29
[SPEAKER_04]: It was really cool to go to that last year and they played Marian and Pat came back and everything and
21:36
[SPEAKER_04]: that that was really cool and then the real thing and I think I'm going to try and go to this and hopefully we can have a good reaction from it is on October 26th the Sunday they're going to be playing Baylor at Deanbridge Field House in an exhibition and that'll be very crucial to see how they look against a big time the opponent and I know that's found a regular season game but we can kind of we can use that as a huge measuring stick to preview the season
22:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get too excited.
22:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, remember Indiana did beat Tennessee in that game last year's That was that's that's it for it.
22:12
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean that that That Tennessee team was so it was a flute for sure.
22:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see one thing and we talked about the Kirkwood event It's something that I really really like to see it was Jeremy Gray the associate athletic director at IU.
22:28
[SPEAKER_02]: He's
22:29
[SPEAKER_02]: been very, very vocal about trying to win back students on the basketball side.
22:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like there's been a divide over the last few years.
22:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Any of you used to have just such a rocket game, you know, game, altering student section at their home games.
22:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And I went to the UCLA game last year on a Friday night expecting, you know, this, they bunch of kids who hadn't been in class all day to stroll
22:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so quiet for, it was clearly just the adult fans.
23:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And they've talked about just having to try to win those students back and maybe changing some of the things in the traditions.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And they talked about, you know, you keep the candy straight pants.
23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got these black scripted Indiana uniforms that the kids all loved.
23:19
[SPEAKER_02]: They brought them out last year, maybe going to those more.
23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the perfect time with nobody having a clue who anybody on the team is to put the damn names on the jerseys.
23:29
[SPEAKER_02]: In the NIL era, it's over, guys.
23:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
23:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you're JV coach, things it's awesome that they don't have the names on.
23:37
[SPEAKER_02]: They play for the front of the jersey.
23:40
[SPEAKER_02]: The under-aid, the William Tell.
23:41
[SPEAKER_04]: The greatest time-out in college basketball.
23:44
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's my thing with the name on the back of the jersey's there is that.
23:47
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a fun one.
23:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you got to.
23:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Got to.
23:50
[SPEAKER_04]: But, um...
23:52
[SPEAKER_04]: with the name on the back of the jerseys.
23:54
[SPEAKER_04]: You bring up, I really never thought about that.
23:56
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good point.
23:57
[SPEAKER_04]: You're in the age of the NILs.
23:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Who cares?
24:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, the younger demographic is not going to care.
24:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Guys, my age don't care.
24:04
[SPEAKER_04]: But man, you're going to have some old, you know what I mean?
24:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanksgiving is going to talk about how he'll never watch another game because they put the jerk name on the jerseys.
24:13
[SPEAKER_02]: The 58 year old thrice divorced uncle that is racist and probably drinks Bud Light for his Thanksgiving dinner.
24:21
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was just, you know, once they put the names in the bag of the jerseys, that's when everybody's going to go, it's going to start being like the cracker, let go, you're just going to boycott they're not going to come to games anymore.
24:34
[SPEAKER_03]: So don't be cracker, bro.
24:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Just, just, just short of cracker, bro.
24:41
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I'm not a, I'm not opposed the names in the bag of the jerseys, change it some of the traditions Indiana.
24:48
[SPEAKER_04]: want so bad to run things especially mainly I think in the basketball department how they did things in the 80s and 90s they want to go back to the Bob night days it wanted to be this tradition of Indiana basketball.
25:05
[SPEAKER_04]: I hate to say it as much as I love coach night just got to move on times of change in college basketball is just it's not the way it used to be anymore
25:15
[SPEAKER_04]: there's just a lot, there's a lot that needs to change that, like you said, the traditions need to change a little bit.
25:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Not opposed to, you know, you still gotta keep Martha, keep the candy stripes, keep the under eight time out.
25:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Just change how the game day experiences brought to you inside of assembly hall.
25:34
[SPEAKER_04]: There's things they can change and there's things that they will change.
25:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's something, here's something we really have to let go.
25:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is a controversial take.
25:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's going to be very popular, but the watch shot doesn't ever need to be played at assembly hall ever again.
25:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
25:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a great, great, great moment in our history.
25:57
[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably the last great moment we've had in our history, but it was a regular season when and again that we lost in the tournament.
26:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time to move on.
26:13
[SPEAKER_02]: a couple years ago where the hysterics like recreated the shot on the court was just embarrassing.
26:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we've got to stop living in the past because 2002 was the last final four.
26:29
[SPEAKER_02]: My son was born in 2011.
26:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't remember the watch on it.
26:33
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't give a shit about Bobby Wilkerson and all these guys we talked about, you know, as great players in the past and this recruit reminds me of the Van Arsdale twins.
26:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody.
26:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody under the age of 30 knows who those people are.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dick Tom, I apologize.
26:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I really appreciate everything.
26:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's what I'll say to things about that.
26:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Number one, I've been saying it here for a few years.
26:59
[SPEAKER_04]: No more watch, shot.
27:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Move on, it's done.
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a great moment.
27:04
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a great moment.
27:05
[SPEAKER_04]: But the only moment, the only thing, the only time I think it's appropriate.
27:11
[SPEAKER_04]: the only time I think it's appropriate to bring it up and celebrate it is on the anniversary of the shot.
27:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Remember, you know, it's always remember, remember the tenth of December is when he hit the shot.
27:22
[SPEAKER_04]: Tires, as ours, think of it.
27:25
[SPEAKER_04]: So December ten, I always post it, post the video, post the picture, relived and on the
27:41
[SPEAKER_04]: That was three basketball coaches again.
27:45
[SPEAKER_04]: That was almost 15 years ago.
27:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Second thing is, is Jake Query.
27:52
[SPEAKER_04]: He's on a show the other day, not the other day.
27:56
[SPEAKER_04]: This was months ago during back last basketball season.
28:00
[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, Mike Woodson, going into talk to these kids from Indiana, saying, oh, son, you know, point that finger and you got to come play for Indiana Bass, you got to come play for Indiana basketball.
28:12
[SPEAKER_04]: These kids, that that was his kind of, I think, downfalls that these kids don't know who he is.
28:18
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't care who Mike Woodson is and I, you guys have been relevant in their lifetime.
28:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, exactly.
28:30
[SPEAKER_04]: to his generation and maybe, I don't know, maybe your guys' generation of an IU player coming to talk to you and saying, you need to come play for Indiana basketball.
28:41
[SPEAKER_04]: How great Indiana basketball is, would be like, don't shunt coming and talk to you guys.
28:46
[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't know, don't shunt be walked through the door here.
28:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the equivalent to Mike Woodson and those guys in the A.E.s.
28:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Mike Woodson, I don't even have memories of Mike Woodson as a player at Indiana.
29:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was alive for the Woodson era, but I don't, I'd ever saw him play.
29:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sure maybe my sister's brought me up in front of the TV.
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because they didn't want to take care of me.
29:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: But it was cool.
29:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like I understood what they were going for when they went to Woodson because they had been lost in the weeds for so far coming out of the Archie era.
29:26
[SPEAKER_02]: They thought, well, we've never gone back to the former player route, even though everybody's talked about
29:39
[SPEAKER_02]: to put yourself in front of these kids.
29:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I live in, you know, the berbuta triangle of sorts of college basketball.
29:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to listen to Kentucky fans, Louisville fans and Indiana fans.
29:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Guess who I don't hear a lot from the down here anymore, Indiana.
29:55
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Indiana and Louisville was awful for two years under Kenny Payne, but they've been nationally relevant a lot more recently than Indiana ever has.
30:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I have a person agree and it's just that Indiana is it's it's hard to say.
30:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a tough pill with swallowing these days.
30:17
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a blue blood anymore.
30:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Just isn't and you know, I think the blue blood that's kind of come in on the scene and taking that away from him is I think you can you go.
30:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, five titles since 99.
30:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
30:36
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Duke, Yukon, Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas.
30:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not even a tree count, you see LA.
30:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're probably, they might be on the out, too.
30:46
[SPEAKER_04]: Those are your five ones.
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels right now like North Carolina is starting to slide it.
30:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, in those rankings, I mean, as crazy as that is to say the school of Michael Jordan, thank you, Paul, not a Hubert.
31:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And they keep these bubble seasons up,
31:05
[SPEAKER_02]: competing for ACC titles and you know playing in the in the first four.
31:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that's kind of we're in the end of started.
31:15
[SPEAKER_04]: And all I want to see from Indiana know we've said it all the time is you just I just want to see them naturally real looking again at least for now.
31:23
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I always said with the football team.
31:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I just want to see them go seven and five every year.
31:29
[SPEAKER_04]: eight and four.
31:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Be consistent.
31:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Just become Iowa.
31:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Be be enjoyable to watch every single game.
31:39
[SPEAKER_04]: That first year, then be an affordable.
31:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I was not expecting 11 to and two year 12 to another playoff.
31:46
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, hell, you'll take it.
31:48
[SPEAKER_04]: You'll tell me, I mean, I want to see that with Indiana basketball and I think that was the decision making when they had to make a change within the program.
31:58
[SPEAKER_04]: They saw what the football team did and they said, we have got to replicate this with basketball.
32:04
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think as of right now, they have the right guy with the breeze we think right now.
32:11
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm willing to go on the record and say,
32:13
[SPEAKER_04]: They have the right guy with devries who is about as normal as a coach as Indiana's had since may be 1973 Bob night before night went nuts I want to be in a basketball to get to a level where it's not this damn difficult just a make in the tournament I mean, I want to go into selection Sunday.
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're gonna be at least a five-seed You know get that dangerous five-12 matchup then possibly you know get a game against
32:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, a Gonzaga in the second round for a chance to go to the final of the sweet 16.
32:45
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want to get to.
32:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And then from there, we can focus on one seeds and, you know, where regional sites and things like that.
32:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just don't, it should not be this hard for Indian basketball with their resources, their NIL, their history, their fan base.
33:04
[SPEAKER_02]: To compete for just a damn tournament spot.
33:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Mike, my top two sports wishes before I die.
33:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Is a Pacers championship and that we get to relive IU and Purdue basketball from 87 and 88 again.
33:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I was still a little young back then Greg.
33:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember the 87 title game, but I just want both teams to be relevant.
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to gain the matter.
33:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was at,
33:32
[SPEAKER_02]: the first two Mike Woods and Purdue games where they won the Finishing shot and then the game where it was the day before the Super Bowl where they knocked off Purdue and they were still number one.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe I want to see a game where they're both in the top 10.
33:50
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the last weekend of the season.
33:51
[SPEAKER_02]: We're playing for the big 10 title.
33:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to see that Greg.
33:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you there.
34:03
[SPEAKER_00]: The buzz is all around, the orange clowns are coming into town.
34:08
[SPEAKER_00]: They say the team is good, but they're ill and annoyed.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're obviously dubious, who's yours by three touchdowns?
34:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The IU report is here with wisdom to impart time to forego some of these basketball traditions Not you, Martha, and never ever, ever yet in line behind Brett B. Lamma at a port of potty It's a small space Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's yours by three touchdowns?
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