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CJP #79: Karishma Manzur ( US Senate NH ) · Coconut Justice

• Carlos: Here she is, everyone. The second bioengineer I've ever had on the channel. No? Karishma Manzur: Not a bioengineer. No, a biochemist. Carlos: Chemist. Alright. That voice back there, you guys, that's Karishma Manzur Hi. I'm excited to meet you for a couple different reasons. much everyone that I know coming out of New Hampshire, the majority of you guys, I'm not trying to spoil the brew or anything, but you guys are all awesome. New Hampshire people are really cool. Karishma Manzur: Hi. Hi, Carlos. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Are you originally from New Hampshire? Karishma Manzur: I am not. I was born in Bangladesh. I was ⁓ so I moved here when I was an a a child. So I grew up in the United States and so yeah. I'm not even born you know, f ⁓ over fifty percent of the folks in New Hampshire are not born in New Hampshire and I'm one of those people. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. So you're basically saying all the cool people are imported? Karishma Manzur: We have cool regardless of where people are born, they're all cool. There's some non cool but th but most are cool. Carlos: Yeah, we have non cool basically everywhere. ⁓ you guys, ⁓ Karishma is running for US Senate to represent New Hampshire. So I always like to to understand why someone would want to run for Senate over House. Karishma Manzur: Mm-hmm. Carlos: What's your rationale beh behind going for Senate? Karishma Manzur: So for any kind of federal office, why would you run for the federal office? It's because you want to improve people's lives. So I'm a scientist. ⁓ I have a PhD in biochemistry, molecular biology, and I worked in medical research for 20 years. I specialized in neurological diseases, and epilepsy and depression. And I loved being a scientist. And the reason I loved being a scientist was because I kept working on projects to help improve people's lives. ⁓ over the last few years I started to realize that there was a lot of pain and suffering right here in my town of Exeter. For example, there are people who l sleep in their cars. They have full-time jobs, but they just can't even afford to rent an apartment. That's unconscionable. The richest country in the world. And those people, the folks who are sleeping in their cars, are a step above people who sleep in tents, who are a step above the people who have to just sleep on the streets. Carlos: That's yeah. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: So I became very involved in the nonprofit sector here in New Hampshire. I'm involved with three different nonpro profits. One is open democracy action. We're trying to get big money out of politics. The second is New Hampshire ranked choice voting because we need to get bring that wonderful piece of legislation to New Hampshire. And the third is New Hampshire peace action, because this war economy is destroying our communities and hurting people across the world and destroying our planet. So I went into the nonprofit sector to also improve people's lives, but I kept seeing that there was still so much pain and suffering right in my town, right across the state, in the United States and across the world because of failed foreign policies and failed domestic policies. So I'm running to represent the people of New Hampshire and the United States Senate for many reasons. But one is we do not deserve a housing crisis, child care crisis, health care crisis. We can absolutely fix these problems. But we needed bold, honest, progressive. In Congress to represent the people. And it's not going to happen as long as we keep sending people who are answering to their donors. Regardless of party affiliation, we need to send honest people who are going to represent the regular folks. And so I'm not taking a cent from APAC, corporate PAC, Super PACs, any of those sources. I'm not taking a cent from big tech, big oil, crypto, AI. Those are Carlos: Hey, what's good? Karishma Manzur is a medical scientist with a PhD in biochemistry and molecular biology. She's serving on the boards of the New Hampshire Ranked Choice Voting and the New Hampshire Open Democracy Action Nonprofits, and she previously served on the board of the New Hampshire Peace Action Nonprofit. That means that she's passionate about making the world a better place for everyone, especially hardworking U.S. citizens. Nice. Karishma Manzur: corporations and industries that are just buying our lawmakers. So across the country Carlos: And to be clear, and to be clear, if you sign those contracts, they are there's expectations that come with those agreements, right? Karishma Manzur: There are expectations. Carlos: That's why she's now running for U.S. Senate for the great state of New Hampshire. This is my conversation with New Hampshire US Senate candidate Karishma Manzur. Before we get into it, remember to go to coconutjustice.com to get you some clothes that I think would look good on you. Let's go. Karishma Manzur: Absolutely. These are not ⁓ any single candidate or lawmaker that is taking money from all these sources, they're not public servants. They are just contractors for these industries. And so people should not be surprised that by voting for a certain Democrat who answers to the corporations or a certain Republican who answers to the corporations and when they get to Congress they're not serving the people. That is should not be a surprise. That is exactly what is going on. So what we are I'm the face of the campaign, but behind me are hundreds of people from the nonprofit sector, the peace movement, young folks, old folks, we are saying that's enough. We cannot have these establishment corrupt Republicans or corrupt establishment democrats. We cannot have any of those anymore. We need our own candidate and so that's why I'm running. Carlos: That's one of the big things that we keep talking about on this channel. The more I talk to you guys, how establishment Democrats, there's no there's no sunshine between an establishment Democrat and any number of Republicans. Their goals are the same. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: And that is why we are losing. People so ⁓ Donald Trump of course is another level of ⁓ demolition of the federal government. But why did w the Democratic Party lose twice to Donald Trump, both in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty-four? Why? Because the base didn't come out for the Democrats. There are two reasons. One, the base is asking for very simple issues: livable wages, universal health care, stop wars, and protect our planet. Very, very low bar. Now the Democrats are have wonderful policies, but they're not listening to the base. Instead, they're listening to the Carlos: Yeah. Karishma Manzur: Donors. What Donald Trump did both in 2016 as well as in 2024, he lied to the base, he lied to the American people. But he understood what the American people were asking for. Those were outright lies. But I don't blame the voters. I blame, of course, Donald Trump for lying. Everyone should be held to high standards. If Donald Trump is lying, then we should be criticizing Donald Trump. But what about the ⁓ Biden-Harris campaign? Why did they not? understand what the people were asking for. Out there, young folks, older folks, everyone was asking over and over again. We they wanted to reject Donald Trump. They wanted to support Biden Harris. And Biden Harris were so intent they the whole idea was Hey, Donald Trump is so bad, people will just come out to vote for us. Sure. N people like me, we were like, okay, fine, we'll just vote because I definitely don't want Donald Trump. But a lot of folks are like, I'm not coming out for either of you. I know this was a mistake, but it's still, it is the job of the party and the candidate to bring out the base. It is not for the base for a voter, ⁓ we should never shame a voter for how they voted or whether they stayed home. It is the job of the candidate to motivate the voter to come out. Because the and why would they do that? Because the candidate listens to the people and answers to the people and wants to serve the people and that's what we have to do. Carlos: Knowing that we have people on both sides, the powerful, we'll just call it the powerful, the rich and powerful. Because there's again, there's no distinction between the two, there's no sunlight between the two. Karishma Manzur: A little bit of sunlight, but go for it. ⁓ it depends on it it actually because we should not stereotype. Not every Democrat is the same. The reason I'm running is because not every Democrat is the same. There's the establishment Democrats, the corporate Democrats, the Progressive Democrats. So in ⁓ some of the lawmakers are really good from both parties actually. There are some really good people serving in the U Senate as well as the House. Carlos: Mm. Yeah. I'll g I'll give you that. Yeah. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: But ⁓ a lot of the Democrats ⁓ are answering to the same donors as the Republicans. It that doesn't make sense. Are you the opposition party? 'Cause otherwise ⁓ from outside it looks like a uni party. Carlos: Exactly. So with all these bad people, bad is a derogatory term because like we understand there are some people that are technically good people. Anyway, all that to say why yeah, yeah. Folks that folks that are blinded by those big checks, with so many of them, why is it so difficult to get Karishma Manzur: Lawmakers who answer to the donors has that or a special interest. Lawmakers have yeah. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Good people. ⁓ to run. Karishma Manzur: So there's a lot of good reasons. So one is the fear of ⁓ campaigns being multi-millions of dollars. That alone will set stop a lot of folks. So when I was ⁓ planning to r ⁓ getting ready to run, this was in 2025, ⁓ I was talking to several elected officials here in New Hampshire. I was letting them know I'm planning to run, and one of these folks, ⁓ this is a state senator. She very genuinely asked, Kirshima, are you a s millionaire? And I said, No. And she said, Do you have a billionaire donor? And I said, No. And she said, then why are you thinking about running for the US Senate? And I said, just think about what you just said. That is exactly the reason I'm trying to run. I need to run because we have created a system where unless you are personally wealthy or do you have all these billionaires supporting you, you're not gonna even step in. That is, Carlos, something we have to stop. We should not Carlos: Yeah. Karishma Manzur: Reward people when they ⁓ at the end of the quarter they say, ⁓ I raised ten million dollars, I raised a hundred million dollars. Don't just say, ⁓ you're raising money. Where is that money coming from is the question. Follow the money, Carlos. And when you follow the money, you realize those money ⁓ that money's coming from corporations, corporate executives, pro-Israel lobbies, other types of foreign influence in our politics. And then so don't be surprised when these people who are taking these large checks, those checks are attached to certain votes and that's how they were going to vote. So again, yeah a lot of good folks are out there, but the system is making sure they're not going to have the courage or the willpower to to move forward. So in my family, we had to make a very difficult decision. So my husband and I are both scientists. our family was dependent on both our incomes, we had to sit down and say, well, basically I'm going to once just before my launch, about two weeks before my launch, I stopped working full time. So the idea was can we survive on one income? And so we ⁓ my husband, you know, he wrote it down on a spreadsheet and said, okay, this is where we are going to have to cut, these are the adjustments we're gonna make. But if we really cut down on ⁓ a lot of our expenses, which you would consider normal expenses, but we're like, okay, we'll just go become a very ⁓ we'll have to be very careful with our money. And then we were we are surviving on one income. My husband's job also provides us with health insurance, so that was on another factor. So I don't I can completely understand those good people that are out there who want to serve, but they're like, I have to work. Who's gonna feed my family or myself? or their jobs are attached to health insurance, which by itself is a different topic, Carlos. And if I get a chance to talk about healthcare in this country, which is an absolute mess, we can talk about why jobs and health care are related. But I i if you are out there Let's break this system. Let's burn this system down because this system is rigged and it's rigged for millionaires who answer to billionaires. If you want a true people's representative government, then this system cannot remain. Carlos: All you have to do is take a look. Just open your eyes and take a look. It's there is nothing but proof that this way doesn't work. Karishma Manzur: No. All you have to do is take a look. Just open your own. Yep. I mean It doesn't. And so ⁓ the people of New Hampshire have two choices. One, they don't have to do anything and let the billionaires buy it for Pappas or Sununu. Those are the two people running and one is my opponent in the primary Democratic primary, the other one's in the Republican primary. So New Hampshire folks, if they just take a step back, the billionaires will flood the airwaves with ads fill up the mail mailboxes with mailers fill up the state with yard signs and one of those two but if you want to fight the billionaires this is your chance this is really a an election of New Hampshire versus the billionaires but granted staters have to rise up and actually fight which means they have to talk about my campaign with their family and friends and they have if they are able to donate even a five dollar donation goes a long way they have to donate and the other is they have to volunteer. Whether it's phone banking, canvassing. ⁓ of course, that's for my voters. They have to rise up because otherwise I'm a people-powered campaign. If the people don't rise up, then the people-powered campaign doesn't work. So, but I'm looking, I'm seeing a lot of interest, a lot of momentum, but we just need more folks to get invested. Carlos: I wanted to remind everyone back when Trump was running again and he was telling everyone, I'm your last chance to bring back the way that it used to be. And it's funny because the white folks thought that they were talking that he was talking to them, which he probably kind of was. But the subsection of people that he was actually speaking to were the very rich people. Karishma Manzur: Yeah. Carlos: If you wanted to keep living the way that you wanted to keep living, billionaires, hire me so I can break this thing so you can continue to live the way that you're living. He doesn't talk to normal folks. He only talks to normal folks when he wants someone climbing on the on the capital. He only speaks to normal folks when he wants to activate them against more progressive people. And we're just not we're tired of that. We're tired of Yeah. Karishma Manzur: So his speeches, his rally speeches were lies to the regular folks, to the people. But in Mar-a-Lago, he was having these expensive dinners with his billionaire buddies. ⁓ I mean we actually even knew about it. This was not hidden. In twenty twenty four, there were we knew that big oil executives had met with Carlos: Yeah. Telling them the truth. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: Donald Trump and they gave him a billion dollars, I believe, like a l a huge amount of money to f something ridiculous for his campaign. Up of course, we don't know the minutes of that meeting, but if what came out of it was basically that once if he gets in office, he's going to deregulate a lot of the things that are holding them back from making even more money. I mean, these are millionaires. They have sometimes Carlos: Mm-hmm. Look at what he's doing with a gambling Karishma Manzur: They they own so many private jets, they own islands, they own yachts, they have so much money, they can shoot themselves up to the sky, come down in sixty seconds for a joyride, and yet they still don't know how t what to do with the money. So Carlos, I really want to talk just for a second about billionaires, if you don't mind. Carlos: Yeah. Let's do it. Karishma Manzur: We need to tax the billionaires. Absolutely. Not because we are against success. This is not because success. This is exploitation, what's going on. Over the last 50 years, we have seen one of the greatest wealth transfers from our people to the top. While the minimum wage is stuck at 725, we have created 900 billionaires. That is a reality. So, folks, when you go around and you're wondering why you are having to work two, three jobs and you can't make ends meet, that's the system working against us. Carlos: Period. Karishma Manzur: It is not that one person. They are trying their best to survive. They're trying best to keep their family afloat. But the system is rigged for the ultra-wealthy. We're not talking about millionaires. We're not talking about doctors or small business owners or somebody who owns an apartment complex. We're talking about billionaires. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: And to give you an idea, we talk about, of course, Elon Musk and Zuckerberg, who have like a huge amount of money. I mean, Elon Musk, of course, supposedly has over a trillion, Zuckerberg 800 billion or something. But just to give you an idea of a small billionaire, this guy has about 20 billion dollars. He owns 7,000 luxury cars. That's the power of billion dollars. Do not, do not America. Don't be afraid to actually have a fair tax code of ⁓ taxing the billionaires. They're not gonna starve. Do not worry. They will not have to sell their yachts. They will not have to sell sell their private jets. All will happen is that money will go to the US Treasury so that we can actually fund services in this country. It is this is wealth transfer. Yes. America. Carlos: Yeah. Let me a let me ask America before I let you keep going. Let me ask America this. America. America. Everything that Karishma's saying right now. What good is being a trillionaire if the land that you come from is in shambles? What good is being a slumlord? Karishma Manzur: Yes. Carlos: You own the building, but everyone is in is destitute. Like to me, progress, not even progress, but being successful doesn't mean anything if you leave everything scorched earth. Karishma Manzur: ⁓ but if you ask so it's almost like you're personally talking to the billionaires. The billionaires don't care. They are fine with scorched earth because that's what they're doing. What we we cannot expect the billionaires to take a step back and become generous. The whole reason they are at where they are is because of exploitation. What we have to Carlos: Yeah. And it's a game. For them it's a game. Karishma Manzur: It's a game. But another thing, the reason they are able to do this is not just that they're making money from their businesses or exploitation. They are influencing our elections. They are putting their little buddies and their friends and the lackeys in Congress. That is the problem. If they had stayed away and not influenced our elections, well, first of all, they wouldn't be billionaires. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: But that is the problem. So why do we have a housing crisis, a childcare crisis, a health care crisis? Because those lawmakers, too many of them, are answering to their billionaire donors or the corporations or foreign influence. These lawmakers from both parties are not answering to the donors. When you are a corporate Democrat or a corporate Republican, you are not answering to the people. You're answering to your donors. Carlos: Mm-hmm. And not for anything, but if you're just sitting around waiting for some PAC to give you a bill for you to file, then why are we giving you the job you're cheating off of your homework assignment? Karishma Manzur: Yes. Yeah. You're not a a public servant, you are just a contractor. Yeah. You're an agent or a foreign agent. Carlos: Right. Meanwhile, I've spoken I've spoken I've spoken to people on this channel who have single handedly written twelve bills as they're running for Congress and there's they're not running on PAC money, they're not running on APAC money, none of that stuff. They're putting in the work so they're hit so they hit the ground running. Karishma Manzur: Mm-hmm. So let's talk about yeah. So I spent a little bit of time talking about, of course, ⁓ the whole problem with the money in politics, the billionaire class, the wealth transfer to the ultra-rich. And of course, our foreign policy is no longer based on national interest or national security. It's basically being governed by war profiteering and foreign influence. So this is wrong. But let me give you a vision of what it can be if we had really a peep representative government. Carlos: Selfish. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: We would have universal health care and that is a desperate need for the people of the United States. Anyone who needs to see a physician should be able to see a physician. Anyone who needs medicine should be able to have medicine. If you break your arm, you should not think twice before running to the emergency room and having it checked out. When somebody is suffer has cancer, they should not have to think twice or mortgage their homes to afford the treatment. We need a system like Medicare for All that will cover all Americans and will be cheaper than the current system. Imagine wouldn't that be a wonderful way for us to serve the people. So that's number one. Number two Carlos: To people be able to focus on chasing their hopes and dreams and being successful rather than being scared to go outside because they might break their arm? That type of thing? Okay, cool. All right. Point two. Karishma Manzur: My God. My God, yes. Yes. I mean the right. We need livable wages. Yes, we need livable wages. Anyone who works a full-time job should be able to afford food, housing, and health care. You should not need two, three jobs to survive in this country. And I'm talking to folks here in New Hampshire. I mean, the the sadness in their lives. They they don't have leisurely time. They're just worried about the bills, the rent, the electric bills, the water bills, the property taxes. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: Constantly just thinking about money and yet working long hours, multiple jobs, and still struggling to survive. That is wrong. What we need instead are livable wages. Anyone who works a full-time job in the United States, it doesn't matter if you're working in fast food, a police officer, a nurse, a doctor, teacher, it doesn't matter. One full time job should be enough to cover food, housing and health care. That is a vision that I have and we have to strive for that. We need livable wages in this country. Yes. Carlos: Let me ask you ro For some of our we'll say successful people in the country, some of the people that we've been banging on lately, when they say if you make it too easy for people, people are gonna be lazy and they're not gonna work. What do you say to them? Karishma Manzur: Yeah. That's a prop the that's propaganda doing its work. Propaganda. I mean this is amazing. We are subsidizing Mc ⁓ these large corporations. We're subsidizing Walmart. If who's ⁓ actually who's actually ⁓ benefiting from welfare? It's Carlos: Yeah. Tell them that. Remind them all of that. Coca-Cola. Karishma Manzur: The billionaires that own Waltons, yes, ⁓ the Walton family or the ones who own McDonald's, etc. That's who is benefiting. So if you are against handouts, government handouts, that's where you have to look. The biggest handouts are to the billionaire class. All these subsidies, I mean, if you are so successful, why do you need us to give you tax breaks, subsidies, loans, like really? So that's our job? Carlos: Corporations. Where does Elon Musk get most of his money? Exactly. Exactly. If you're so successful, why so many people struggling? Karishma Manzur: Yeah. Yeah. So this is how Carlos: And that's and that's the thing. I don't I think normal folks don't understand that. Like in 2008, when the world economy collapsed, we we our tax dollars, that means us, we saved this country. And then when you have Elon Musk tucking all his dumb stuff, you know who lets him flip rockets? That's your money. That's our money. That's not him being successful. Karishma Manzur: Mm-hmm. Exactly. We had to bail them out. Yeah. Carlos: That's not him anything. Why do you think he and Donald Trump kept getting mad at each other? Because Donald Trump threatened to take away his welfare. It's just that simple, you guys. Karishma Manzur: And then don and he ⁓ thre ⁓ Elon Musk threatened the Epstein files. So it was like, wow, two bastards fighting off each other. Two horrible, two extremely horrible human beings. Carlos: Exactly. Did did you grow up in New Hampshire? Karishma Manzur: I moved around a little bit. So I lived in Massachusetts for my high school. Then I went to New York for ⁓ I got my bachelor's degree from University of Rochester, then I went to my PhD from Mount Sinai School of Medicine, then I went to UC Berkeley for my postdoc, then I moved to Massachusetts back to the East Coast, and then I moved to New Hampshire. So I've been Carlos: Nice, congratulations. Karishma Manzur: So how many states have I lived in? Massachusetts, New York, California, New Hampshire? Carlos: That was a quick six or seven right there. How important do you think it is important for folks to travel to get well rounded? Or do you think they should kind of Karishma Manzur: Right. Right. I mean absolutely. I mean when you are trying to ⁓ if you are running for the mayor of a city, even then you should still know how other cities are functioning. Carlos: Yeah. Karishma Manzur: In your state, across the country, and maybe acr in the world, it will be good for a mayor to know how other cities function to help them understand what other ways a city can function. But that's also to meet other people to get under understanding. A US senator is going to influence domestic policies for the entire country, foreign policies for the entire world. I have I was born in Bangladesh, I was raised in the United States, I have worked in science, I've worked in the nonprofit field, and I've worked in the peace movement, in the dem ⁓ trying to protect democracy. So many ways, so much experience I'm bringing lived experiences, w professional experiences, educational experiences. Because I understand what happens when the d policies fail in this country, when policies fail outside this country. My opponent, Chris Pappas, is proud to say that he has lived his entire life within a like a one mile radius. That's fine. That's fine. You know, good for you. And yet you so how Carlos: Look at you with all that stability. Go look, you go boy. Karishma Manzur: Yes, wonderful. He was born into a millionaire family. He's raised as a he's a multimillionaire himself. I mean ⁓ good for you. Carlos: ⁓ even more. All right, cool. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: And in his eight years in Congress, like let's ask, what has he done? What has he who has he helped? Ha has the homelessness crisis in New Hampshire gotten better? No. Has the health care crisis in New Hampshire gotten better? No. The childcare crisis in New Hampshire gotten better? No. None of this. So why is this person still serving? I don't know what the word serving is ⁓ in quotes. Why? And so anyway, so yes. Carlos: Why do they keep showing up and sitting in that seat? Karishma Manzur: I know what it's what happens when the government is not serving its people. I worked minimum wage jobs. In the 1990s, that was $4.25 an hour. I worked seven days a week to afford food, housing. Healthcare was not even an option. It was none of my jobs gave me health care. None of us in my family had access to health care. My mother and my sister were suffering from chronic illnesses, but they could not access care. Later on, they received care, but those few years without access to health care impacted their lives. Like millions of Americans, they suffered their bodies. Suffered and like thousands of Americans, they died young because of those years without access to health care. I know what it's like to have live in a country that does not offer livable wages, affordable housing, and accessible health care. That is an experience that I can bring to the US Senate. Not a single opponent of mine has that experience. Chris Sunu, I mean sorry, John Sununu and Chris Pappas, both of them are multi-millionaires. Answering to billionaire donors, they will not be they will kn neither have the compassion nor the understanding of what it's like to suffer from failed domestic policies. And they have no solution to offer either, because they're just there to answer to their donors. We need livable wages, me we need affordable housing, and we need universal health care like Medicare for All. And I'm going to deliver that for the in the United States Senate. Carlos: Do both Chris and John do they both come from money? Karishma Manzur: I don't know too much about their lives, but yes, both of them are millionaires. So John Sunulu ⁓ has like twenty million dollars or thirty million dollars and b I mean and ⁓ the other one has several million dollars, so both of them are multimillionaires, yes. Carlos: Okay. Yeah. The my my point is this. Yeah. My point is this. I understand folks that come from money. I understand that you guys might work hard. I understand that you know your forefathers worked really hard and did all the things. I understand. Yeah. Yeah. But like Karishma Manzur: That's the thing. The forefathers worked very hard. Exactly. Carlos: If you do a little bit of research, you find out that right around that third generation, things get a little wily. Right? Right? So we're well in we're well past third generations and stuff like that. The point that I'm trying to make is, and I have no idea, I haven't talked to either one of these guys, but from hanging out with people, affluent people. Karishma Manzur: Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. Carlos: They don't know what it is to have to make those sacrifices, like surviving without health insurance. They don't know what it is to have to walk because they missed the bus. They don't know what it is to live that life. And when they struggle, again, I don't know anything about Chris. I don't know anything about John. I'm talking from what I have seen through my own eyes. If Karishma Manzur: This is. Carlos: Your Karishma Manzur: Mm-hmm. Carlos: problem solution process includes asking your parents for money to get you through this thing. That ain't it. Because that's what we're seeing, right? That's what we're seeing. We're seeing a bunch of rich kids and they say we need money for war and they just keep asking mom and dad for money for war. Karishma Manzur: So that is one right. All right. Yes. So, Carlos, so that is one aspect. But these two people have already served in Congress. John Sununu served six years in the US Senate. How did he help improve people's lives? He didn't. So it's not like he's not a tested person. We know. He we know what he has done in the past. So Carlos: We didn't. He maintained the status quo for rich people. Karishma Manzur: We know we do not want more of this the same. We do not want any more corporate hacks or lackeys in the US Senate. Chris Papas is right now still a Congress member. Four terms, eight years. If you haven't been able to fix it in eight years, God, please go back to go away. This is why we also need Carl. Carlos: Mm-hmm. You gotta go. Your ideas are stale. I'm glad you're saying this. Karishma Manzur: We need term limits, Carlos. We need term limits in this country. We need to get big money out of politics, but we also need term limits. Three terms in the US House, that's enough. Thank you for your services. Go and do whatever else you want. Carlos: Yeah. Go live under the rules that you just made. Karishma Manzur: Well they have yeah, that would be if they were an honest person. They would they're r the system is already rigged in their favor. They do not have to live under the rules that they made. They will r live under the rules of yeah, helping the billionaires. They they've rigged the system so they will live in happiness and money. But it's it these are tested politicians. These the concept of Career politicians is already undemocratic. This is really wrong. The political dynasties is undemocratic. In New Hampshire, we're a tiny state. We're a tiny little state. We have 1.4 million people. Two families have been controlling our politics for over 50 years. Two families. That alone is undemocratic. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. You ever see them struggling? You ever see them out holding a cute little sign that says, Give me five bucks 'cause my kids are hungry? You don't know? That's weird. That's really weird. Karishma Manzur: No. No. No. This no, they don't No. Carlos: So they're fine. They have like, you know, fenced communities and stuff, gated communities that Karishma Manzur: I that I don't know. But it's again not Being poor does not necessarily mean that you will be a good public servant. Being rich does not necessarily mean you're not gonna be a good that is, of course, the experience you bring. So there's that factor. But there's ways to figure out if somebody's gonna be a good public servant or not. First of all, who do you take money from? Follow the money. It's a very simple thing. If your money is coming from corporations, corporate PACs, super PACs, dark money, foreign lobbies, that's who you're going to serve. Carlos: Mm-hmm. The community's not your boss. Karishma Manzur: The second is if you've already served in Congress as in as a senator or as a representative, and we see your record. Carlos: You have a proven track record that your ideas are trash. Karishma Manzur: And then what w this time around? Maybe next time, like ⁓ I mean Carlos: ⁓ you took your shot. Go take a seat, champ. Karishma Manzur: You you had your chance and that's what you did? Wow. I mean, yeah, exactly. and so so the American people have to follow the money, number one. Number two, look at a person's what have they done with their life. Eve like for example, I was a scientist trying to improve people's lives. I was going into the nonprofit sector, completely unpaid, volunteer work. Carlos: Even before you came a scientist, what were you before you came a scientist? You were just a normal kid. You're just a normal kid. Yeah. Did you go did you get to go on like really cool vacations and stuff? And like did you have a boat and and multiple cars when you were growing up? No. ⁓ I'm just saying the point Karishma Manzur: That's true that just a normal person struggling to survive. Yeah. God no, I didn't have a boat. No. We have one house, no vacation homes, one we're ⁓ grateful for one and we have a mortgage on this house. But we are so grateful that we own a house and we do own our cars. So thank God. But because that is a huge thing. ⁓ we are not we we paid off the cars, but we are still ⁓ a mortgage on the house, so Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Right. And I'm not even trying to dog people for having money. I know a lot of really cool people that have money. I know hey, I I will go I will go as far as to say I know I had a conversation with this guy that has Karishma Manzur: ⁓ but we're not talking about the millionaires. We're talking about the yeah. Mm-hmm. Carlos: That has enough money he has his own wine label. Yeah. Cause you know what they say about wine. If you want to make a little money making wine, you have to have a lot of money from somewhere else. Right? So he's got a lot of money from somewhere else. And I was having a conversation with him and I was like, Like, why is the world breaking? And he said, You like normal people need to understand that they need to tax us. Karishma Manzur: Okay. I see. Mm. Okay. Yang. Right. We actually have a a group ⁓ called ⁓ Patriotic Millionaires. Have you heard of them? You should look them up. They're millionaires who want a fair tax code. Carlos: No, but that sounds Karishma Manzur: I don't think we have the patriotic billionaires yet. That's gonna be an interesting Carlos: Do you think patriotic millionaires will ever get a an invitation to places like Mar a Lago or anything? Are they Karishma Manzur: I I'm spiking now. They they're trying to they're they're saying the system is rigged and them Mr. Rigg is sitting in Mar-a-Lago. No. ⁓ but okay, so those are all issues that are of course ⁓ that we need to discuss. But we need livable wages. We need universal health care. We need affordable housing. I want us to ha deliver for the people. We all need well funded public education. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: This is the minimum we have to do in order to care for the next generation. All of us will live on this c planet for a certain number of years, a few decades. That's it. We should leave a planet that is going to be good for our next generation. We need to leave a country that's going to be great for our next generation. And we should make sure that our next generation, our children, Carlos: Yes. Karishma Manzur: have the best education so that whoever they want to be, an artist, a police officer, a musician, doesn't matter, that they have the right tools. Whether they want to ⁓ go to c community college, four year college, or trade schools, apprenticeship, any of these things, we should be able to provide them the support that they need. And not put so much burden on them that they have to change their life's trajectory to fulfill a broken system. That's it, my heartbreaks when I talk to young folks. Because you see, when they ask you, where's my American dream? And it's like so heartbreaking to hear that. Sometimes people in their twenties will say, Carlos: Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: You guys told us to go to high school and do well. We went to trade schools and did well. Now where is that? Why am I still struggling? Why do I have three, four roommates and they're not and my apartment has two bedrooms. Like I've met people sleep in closets. In order to I but this is really a desperate situation. We need to help our children. We need to help our young folks. And we also need to protect our planet. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: ⁓ com so what state do you live in? I actually don't know. Okay. So here in Yes. Climate. Carlos: I live in California right now. But I wanted to before I let you go into the the nature part because I do want to geek out on that. But I ⁓ f for me, the education system is is my that's the one that I that's the the that I yell at the loudest. Because yeah. ⁓ Karishma Manzur: Yes. Go, yes, go loud. Go rant. Carlos: You know, I I talk about coming up through the inner city and you know, ⁓ and then joining the military and going to college and then going to more college and then doing more training and doing all the things that that that society asked me to do. And then technology, you know, I got into technology and all of a sudden technology shifted and I have nothing. I don't I I I don't qualify ⁓ Karishma Manzur: Mm. Carlos: I don't qualify for jobs, but when you take a look at the jobs that I I used to qualify for, you saw, you know, the coffee had a little more cream, if you know what I mean. ⁓ and I would love to go to school, but I've already f I've already fallen for that trick. I went to a school that got busted for predatory yeah, for predatory lending practices and stuff like that. Karishma Manzur: Yeah. ⁓ no. Sorry. Carlos: So it's like every chance you get, you have to, and this is the message for normal young folks. Every chance you get to get ahead, you have to pay attention because it might be the fix is in. Like these folks don't care. And the thing that really pisses me off is that normal folks don't understand this. They are telling you they're they're taking away all the education funding, they're taking away all the board of education and all that stuff. They're doing all that stuff. And then they go and they hire people from different countries who have invested in their education. So it's not just the strawberry and apple picking jobs, you guys. We're talking technology high paying technology jobs that they are exporting. Karishma Manzur: Mm. Carlos: So, in able to combat that, we have to invest in education. And this is the thing that really burns my bacon is these corporations that are going to other countries that are telling you you don't need education and all that stuff, they have no problem giving millions and millions of dollars for something as useless as a ballroom when the high school and the grade school in your area needs. Karishma Manzur: Mm-hmm. Carlos: Kleenex They need dry erase markers. They need desks. They need air conditioning so the kids don't cook when it's a hundred and ten because we continue to ruin the the planet. That alone. The fact that a corporation will give the president almost unlimited amounts of money to do whatever dumb shittery he's doing instead of educating our kids so they qualify for these jobs that you continue to export. But come to find out, that has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with folks that don't live here work for cheaper. Normal people need to realize what is going on. There is a game being played on you. And it's people like Krishma and other other folks that are coming onto this channel to say, Hey, look, I'm a normal person. I know what it feels like. I don't have mom and dad to ask me for money. I put in the work. And again, I don't begrudge people that have money. I don't begrudge people that come from money. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying you talk a lot of shit about how cool you are, but when the inner city kids come to show up and and we come to show out, all of a sudden everyone is nervous. That drives me crazy. It drives me crazy. And people continue to vote against what's good for the nation. Karishma Manzur: Of course. Because that's Absolutely. So but ⁓ where ⁓ do we get the news from? So news channels, who d who owns them now? These are not independent news channels, they are owned by the billionaires. ⁓ Facebook, X Carlos: They're the billionaires. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: Twitter, these are all owned by billionaires and they know the algorithm. They're feeding us whatever we want to hear to control our narrative. They want us to h ⁓ fear each other. You know, they're gonna tell us about immigrants and trans folks and anyone who want they want to throw under the bus that year. But this is an old system. This is not a new practice. In previous years and hundreds of years ago, what they would ⁓ the politicians would tell us to fear ⁓ Carlos: Ha ha ha. Karishma Manzur: ⁓ eastern europeans who are coming in or the Irish Americans or the Italians or the Russians or the Jewish people or the Asians or the Muslims or the Catholics. Always somebody. So now the the vulnerable community of the year is the immigrants and the trans folks. So please stop falling for that. While they are asking us to hate our neighbors and to fear our neighbors we are getting robbed by the Carlos: Are they Russians? Yeah. It's always someone. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: By Donald Trump, his cabinet, and the billionaires. So while we are getting distracted, ⁓ my god, should that kid play in this sport? Should that person use that bathroom? Look who's creating, who's absolutely robbing us. That is so this just his this jet, this bribe from Qatar. Carlos: One hundred percent. Karishma Manzur: That cost, we actually don't know. I mean, how can the US government not be transparent? How can we not know how much it costs to refurbish that plane? Did it cost a billion dollars? Did it cost two billion dollars? We will never know. That alone tells you that the system is wrong. But just to give you an idea, say it's a billion dollars. For a billion dollars, we could have fixed up every single bridge and road in New Hampshire that needs to be fixed up. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. So y'all can get to work safely. Karishma Manzur: That's that's what a power of a billion dollars. That's yes, that for a billion dollars we could have provided universal child care in New Hampshire instead of fixing up a narcissist's plane. Carlos: Dumbass plane. Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: And that plane, now that it flew to NATO, did you hear that Turkey had to spend a hundred and twenty million dollars fixing up an airport because it's such a big plane that the runway needed to be fixed up and they had to it it's insane. This these are is this a United States president or a king? A n and we are we need to stop. If we want to reclaim our power, we have to stop giving power to the lawmakers who are answering to the donors. Politicians who are lying to us, Donald Trump who is robbing us every single day. He's making billions from his presidency and lying on a daily basis. And telling us, by the way, don't look at what where my family's making money. Hate your neighbor. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: F be afraid of your neighbor. This is the this is what's going on. So my friends, America, New Hampshire, everywhere. Folks, please understand we do not have to fear each other. We do not have to hate each other. Every single person out there, all they want is a livable j wage. They just want to wake up in the morning, have food in the fridge, go to a job that they like, come home, have leisurely time, send their kids to public schools that are well funded, own a car. Carlos: Exactly. Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: Or have access to good public ⁓ transportation and just live a happy, peaceful life. This is what we all want, and this is achievable in the greatest in the richest country in the world. But in order to do that, we need a government that's answering to the people, not the billionaire class. Preach. Carlos: Preach. How did you get into biology and and ⁓ biochemistry, yeah. Karishma Manzur: Biochemistry? ⁓ mean the science? I loved science. That was my favorite subject all through grade school. And so I it just always felt that was the way I was headed. I just love learning about how things work. How does the human body work? How does a cell work? How does n how do neurons fire? But Carlos I'm gonna say s ask you a question. Carlos: Ooh, I'm so glad that you said that. 'Cause now we can cut w huh? Okay, go for it. Karishma Manzur: In the history of the United States Senate, how many PhD scientists have we elected to the US Senate in the history? I'm gonna give you the answer. ⁓ I'll give you a hint, but go for it. The ⁓ go try it. Yes. One Carlos: Is that your is that the hint? You're cheating. Everyone is gonna everyone is gonna think that I'm that everyone's gonna think that I'm full of shit. Cause you cheated. It's one. No, I didn't. Karishma Manzur: But what did you think? Did you know that? Did you know? One. No. Think about it. In the history of the US Senate, we've only elected one PhD scientist. That was in the nineteen seventies. So let's help elect the first female PhD scientist in the US Senate. So this is number one. Why? We need somebody who is ⁓ who understands problems, who under wants to look at the root causes and wants to implement solutions. We're very practical people, we're not ideological. Yes, I'm ready. Carlos: Yes, ma'am. Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: Registered Democrat, but I don't care where in the political ideology the solution is coming from. If it's a solution that will help improve people's lives, I will fight to implement it. So this is ⁓ this is something we need, and we need data-driven plans, evidence-driven plans, truth, honesty, intelligence. I mean, we kind of have to have smart people there. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. ⁓ I wanna ask you this. Because you have an engineer's brain, and if you scientist, it's similar. It's similar. A scientist well, okay. Fair. The way that you're the way that you finding solutions, that's the part that I'm trying to get to, right? Like you chip away, chip away, chip away, and then you find the solution. Karishma Manzur: Not engineer, scientist. Yeah. Diff different. ⁓ but you're right, in the same idea. Technical. Very, very technical, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yes. Carlos: I've been chipping away at this problem. Karishma Manzur: Yes. Carlos: Everyone knows it, everyone's heard that California has a crazy amount of homeless people. And we spend so much money that doesn't quite get down to the homeless people, to actually addressing the problem. How, and I think, I think once politicians start talking about this, I think, I think their campaigns will probably be a little easier, a little more palatable, I guess. How are we going to get money from up here down here to where the problem actually exists? What good is fixing a bug in a computer if the bug is never, if the solution never gets to the bug? Right. Doing it the same way, like, okay, well, we're gonna start with here, and then people ask for money, and then it just continues to go down and this trickle down, dumb shit, it never works, it doesn't work, it's only obvious. How are we going to get money from the top to actually service the problems that are constantly happening and that are Constantly there. Karishma Manzur: Are you s talking specifically about homelessness crisis? The home ⁓ the housing crisis? Well, because I mean every one of these problems requires a different sort of idea and a solution. So you have to give me one. Are you talking about the housing crisis? Because then I can talk about the housing crisis. Okay. So let's ask ourselves. So I cannot answer about California, but in general, let's look at why we have folks on the out there. One is there are folks who work full-time jobs. Carlos: I'm talking about everything. I'm talking about everything. Mm-hmm. Okay. Let's do homeless. Let's do homeless. Cause I think that might be hopefully it's easier. Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: They just cannot afford to rent or buy. So that shows that the houses have to be affordable. How do you make a house affordable? First of all, why why are houses expensive is the counter question. Private equity is purchasing up a lot of homes across this country. They're pr ⁓ purchasing these rental properties, they're r purchasing single family homes. Carla, single family homes should be for single families, not Wall Street. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: This has to stop. But they're converting us into a generation of renters and then they jack up the price. They're neighbor Carlos: Ha ha ha. Yeah. And subscribe and subscribers. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: And subscribers, exactly. So what do we need to do? We need to get private equity out of the housing market. They should not be in the housing market. I'm fine with a small landlord who owns ⁓ fifty units or a hundred units. Those are fine. But not these Wall Street owning large ⁓ these corporations coming in, offering cash purchases and then buying it off and then being really bad landlords. They're really bad landlords by the way. They don't fix things and they make promises they don't keep and then they jack up the prices, the rent, etc. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Listen to everything listen to everything that she's saying, you guys. She's she's describing Jared Kushner. Karishma Manzur: So wait. that was that was depressing. ⁓ my god, those two words have so much wow. No, I'm gonna be sad. Okay. Here I was looking at this beautiful I was imagining a world where people are not homeless on the streets of America. And then you said two words that well. Carlos: I'm sorry for I'm sorry for cutting you up. Those two words are your motivation to push through and bring this vision. Karishma Manzur: Somebody okay, so so that's so ⁓ that's one thing. A lot of folks might be on the ground because they actually are unable to care for themselves. They have mental health issues. We as a society cannot keep throwing people who need services out on the streets to fend for themselves. Folks who have schizophrenia or depression, etc., need care. That is Carlos: Mm-hmm. Karishma Manzur: We need to care for each other. We will have physical differences, we will have mental differences, but we as a society need to care for each other. Some people will need a little bit more care than others. But we want a society that would for God forbid if anything happens to say you or I, like we are suddenly not able-bodied people, we want a society where we will be able to care ⁓ the a society that'll care for us. Similarly, we need to care for each other. We a lot of folks with mental health problems. Are out on the streets, and that's because we don't have the services anymore. Federal government is not providing the services, the state governments are not providing the services. A lot of these folks are ending up in the prison system. These prisons are being filled up with folks with mental health problems. And now these prison guards who are supposed to care for people who broke the law, like our, you know, public safety issues, are now dealing with folks who have mental health problems. We are the failures of the federal government. The state government is causing folks right on the streets and also putting pressure on the law enforcement system. The other is, of course, ⁓ maybe folks have ⁓ substance use disorder. That is cons should be considered an actual medical need. Those folks need to care be taken care of by physicians, by therapists, by counselors, and given the resources to basically. come out of their substance use problems and become contributing members of society. So we have to understand why is someone on the streets of America, why. And then a lot of these issues will then need to be addressed. But my friend, that starts with compassion. If you drive on the streets of the United States and you see someone sleeping on the streets of America in the daylight and you don't care and you walk past them, then you that person is not compassionate and they do not deserve to become a lawmaker. They just not deserve to go to the US Senate. That is what is we need people who are compassionate, who actually know Carlos: I agree. Karishma Manzur: Want to c ⁓ look at solutions and are going to be bold enough to fight for those solutions. Not whatever we keep electing. Too many of them are just there for show. They're just contractors for their cl ⁓ industry. They're not there to serve the people. So, yes, we can I want a world where people are not on the streets of the United States. I mean, I want a country, I'm not, I can't address the whole world. I want a country. Where anyone who works a full-time job should be able to afford food, housing and health care. I want a country where people who have special needs, whether it's developmental issue congenital issues or mental health issues or drug use issues, that they are cared for by the by our society. I want a country where the youth are looking forward to growing up. Where somebody where somebody's not afraid to turn twenty six and lose their parents' health insurance. That is sad. I wanna Carlos: And and making Americans proud to be Americans again. What Karishma Manzur: I want people to be proud to be Americans. I want us to invest in our children, invest in science, in education, innovation, medical research. So one is we have to tax the rich, but we also have to have a foreign policy that's not based on war profiteering. Trillions of dollars are going to the rich, trillions of dollars are going to war. And we have to stop those two big problems and invest in our children and our communities, my friend. Carlos: Yes. Now how do we fix the planet? Karishma Manzur: And Richard. That's ⁓ part two. Carlos, you have to have me back and we'll discuss the planet another day. But ⁓ my friend, yes, we we need compassionate, kind, intelligent, bold, honest progressives in the US Senate. Carlos: Yeah. Do you have to go or do you have a couple more minutes? Karishma Manzur: I'll stay for a couple of minutes, but I do have to get ready for a rally, so Yes ma'am. Carlos: Okay. Okay. I wanted to ask you, as someone who wants to be a senator for the United States, and you see someone, this person might be your coworker pretty soon, what do you say? What do you s what do you say to someone like a Chuck Schumer that is up on stage talking about how Israel and Israel's needs are his main focus? Karishma Manzur: Which one? Are you going are you gonna name one? How can that not be considered reason? Carlos: Freezing. Karishma Manzur: I mean you if you take an oath just uphold the Constitution of the United States and serve the American people and all you're doing is talking about a foreign country. It can be any foreign country. If somebody got up and said the ⁓ a US lawmaker said they want to serve Mexico, then go serve Mexico. Why are you in the US Senate? If somebody says I wanna go serve France, go to France. I mean Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Live your best life. Karishma Manzur: W why do we make a distinction? Have fun. Move to that country that you want to serve. You but don't take an oath to uphold the US Constitution and serve the American people and then talk about openly, openly talk about serving a foreign country. Carlos: I don't get it. I don't get I don't Karishma Manzur: I don't get it. I don't you know, I or I don't get how we are not how we are allowing it to happen. It's on us. As the American people. Corruption has always been there in various forms. Treason's behavior has always been there in various forms. It's up to us to say that's enough. We need US lawmakers to serve the United States. We need to send people to the US Senate. Who Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Karishma Manzur: will actually take our national interest and national security into consideration, not the whims of a foreign genocidal government. Yes. It's a low bar. Carlos: Yeah. It's it's it's so crazy to me that we that we that we have conversations like this. Like how Karishma Manzur: So crazy to me too. Yes. Carlos: I've been saying this more often lately. We know universal bas basic income would work because Dubai has it and everyone there is wonderful. Karishma Manzur: I don't know much about Dubai, okay, but I'll take your word for it. Never been there. Carlos: The way yeah, I've been there. I've been there and I've n had conversations with them. The way that they get their money and why they're doing it is beyond my pay grade. I spoke to the normal people Karishma Manzur: That's an author another authoritarian regime. So I'm not sure I wanna look at them but but I okay, I get your gesture. Carlos: Right. Well, there's a d but there's a difference between what's happening now and they're leaving everyone behind and an authoritarian regime that's actually taking care of their people. Karishma Manzur: Of the all the developed nations, the wealth inequality in the United States is the g worst. Carlos: Yeah. We know that we know that universal ⁓ healthcare works, we know that ⁓ really good public schools works, and we know that it's somewhat affordable because all of those things we're paying for already, but in Israel. So we know that all of these programs work. They just refuse to put it into place. And let me talk to the normal folks of New Hampshire. Normal folks of New Hampshire, if you're hearing my voice, listen. Karishma Manzur: I'm one of those normal folks on New Hampshire, so go ahead. We're I'm listening. We're listening, Carlos. Carlos: If you had a really good school available with after school programs and all those things that are building up your students, your your your kids, and then you have a little bit more money in your pocket, so you're not stressing out about what am I gonna get my kid for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And you don't have to stress out about car insurance. And you don't have to stress out about maybe taking a public transportation thing and maybe there's a job that you need to get to and all these wonderful things. The less stress about money that you don't have or the survival that you don't have, it sets the table for wonderful things to happen, for you to be able to stretch a little bit farther. Maybe you want to start your your ⁓ your own small company out of your garage, just like rich kids do. Maybe. Maybe your kid is a brilliant soccer player and you need to drive them around. Maybe you don't, maybe having three jobs is taking away from you raising a really good kid. And we have a lot of people like Krishma and and a bunch of other folks, grassroots level people that are promising you to not take pack money. They're not gonna take money from the corporations. Karishma Manzur: Mm-hmm. Carlos: They want to, they want to leverage all of this potential that we have to make your life better and easier so you can then continue to start your own small business and maybe you want to learn something new and so you have to go to school and all these other things. We have to get all of this friction out from in front of you so you can live an amazing life. Karishma Manzur: Yep. Carlos: And it's not hard. You just have to vote. You have to take to have the courage to vote for some of these grass grassroots people. And a lot of them are saying, if I ever take super PAC money, if I ever take APAC money, if I ever take PAC money, corporate money, all this stuff, they're saying, listen, if I ever do that, you can take my job away. Why would you not vote for something like that? And they're and they're saying I'll do it at cost. At cost, meaning the salary that you're gonna give me. I don't need an extra four million dollars that those knuckleheads over there are gonna send me so they can get their homework assignments through. You know, it's not that it's just not that difficult. We normal folks have to do our job. Karishma Manzur: Yeah. It's not it. Carlos: We have to vote for the country that we want. I know you have to get going, I get wordy and all that stuff, but take a couple of minutes, plead your case to the good people of New Hampshire and let them know where they can find you online. Karishma Manzur: Yes. First of all, Carlos, thank you. I mean, I'm truly appreciated that you gave me this opportunity to talk to you. But also what you just said. What a vision. What a vision. And it's not impossible, right? In the richest country in the world. We have just become so abused by our lawmakers we've forgotten to dream. And that is something we need to s we need to bring back. I have a website. I would like it if folks learned more about me, Karishma for Senate.com. I am also on social media, Facebook, Instagram, all of those platforms. ⁓ please learn about me, contact me. How can you help me? I cannot compete with the millions of dollars pouring in for Papa Sinunu, because that that money is blood money, that money is bad money. So the people in New Hampshire have to help me out by just talking to their friends and family. That's all they have to do. Talk to five, ten, fifty people. Call, email, text, post it on social media. All you have to do is just talk to your own circle. Help spread the word. If you're able, donate. Even a five-dollar donation goes a long way. If you're able to donate more, donate. The maximum is thirty-five hundred. If you're able to donate thirty-five hundred, I would love it. But if you even if a a five-dollar donation goes a long way. Third is if you're able to phone bank, and that is ac actually across the country. Anyone that's able to phone bank, we do Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday phone banks. That would be great if you can join. And of course Folks who can knock on doors, that'll be amazing. So my friends, we can reclaim our power, but I can't do this alone. I have sacrificed my life, I've sacrificed my family life, and I'm going to try to fight the system. But one person cannot fight this corrupt billion dollar system that is sucking the life out of all of us. In order to fight it, people have to rise up in New Hampshire and across the country. So I need your support and ⁓ thank you again. Thank you, Carlos, and thank you to your listeners. Carlos: Thank you so much for coming on and and explaining what's happening in New Hampshire. ⁓ and again, I'm pleading to just normal folks. We know that all these programs that we talked about, we know that they work because the rich kids have them. Karishma Manzur: Yeah. Carlos: Here in this country, the rich kids don't have to worry about a lot of these things that we've talked about. And look at how well they're doing. So you can't tell me investing in in these communities that need investing and it i it's gonna work. It's gonna work. Karishma Manzur: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Thank you again so much. Go have fun at your rally. And with that, everybody, we're out. Karishma Manzur: Thank you, my friend. Thank you. I really appreciate that. Okay. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye.