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Happy Hour #150: Txismas · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Andy and Samantha, and welcome stuff. I've
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  Speaker 1: never told you a production to buy Heart Radio, and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to what I think is the last half hour
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  Speaker 1: of the year. What I think. So, if you are
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  Speaker 1: choosing to drink or whatever you're choosing to do, please
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  Speaker 1: drink responsibly. Samantha, are you sipping on anything.
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  Speaker 2: My bubble water? Because we got a lot to do today.
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  Speaker 2: I can't be sleep here. We do well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still continuing my coquito from our book club episode
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  Speaker 1: you know where we are? And yes, as this comes out,
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  Speaker 1: it is the day after Christmas, So Merry Christmas to
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  Speaker 1: anyone who celebrates. And the interesting A couple of things
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about. This will probably be a
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  Speaker 1: pretty short one because once again I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: think of something. Everyone's stressed. I don't want to do
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  Speaker 1: an unhappy hour. Where's the happy hour? Where is it?
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  Speaker 1: Where are you Christmas? Why can't I find you? I
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  Speaker 1: say that every year the Grich, But yeah, I just
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  Speaker 1: feel like this year, I recently, I feel like there's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot of endings the like, for example, my
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  Speaker 1: beach house that I've grown up with, my grandparents beach
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  Speaker 1: house got sold so that's kind of an ending. That's
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  Speaker 1: an ending. I've been pretty sad about it. I was
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  Speaker 1: very lucky to have it, very privileged to have it.
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  Speaker 1: I could recognize that, but I'm very sad it's gone.
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  Speaker 1: And then I never got to go to the Air's tour.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm sad it's over because I didn't get to go.
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  Speaker 1: And then what we do in the Shadows just ended,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sad about that's all. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there's just been a lot of like endings, and then
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  Speaker 1: not even to talk about twenty five, pretend that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: exist for now. And then I was thinking about, like
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  Speaker 1: for me, even if it's a relief when Christmas is over,
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  Speaker 1: there's still like all of this build up and then
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  Speaker 1: it's just done. And I remember, like, especially when I
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  Speaker 1: got older, I would look around and be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: now I got to go take up all these decorations,
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  Speaker 1: Like it just feels like a real pressure, and I
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  Speaker 1: to be clear and transparent, I don't do that anymore
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  Speaker 1: because I don't go home for New Year's anymore. So
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  Speaker 1: my mom does it. But I still think about my
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  Speaker 1: mom doing it, and now I'm not gonna help. I
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  Speaker 1: also almost did this episode about how there's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of talk lately where people, young people are realizing
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  Speaker 1: that their moms buy their own gifts and wrap their
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  Speaker 1: own gifts and my mom always did that growing up,
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  Speaker 1: and people being so surprised and then other people being like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just assumed that's not great. Great. And then I
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  Speaker 1: found an article I really connected with about it was
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  Speaker 1: called like post Christmas stress, but it was about how
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're hanging out with people, you're going to parties,
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  Speaker 1: you're having a good time, but you just get so
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  Speaker 1: tired and you're outlaid. You're doing your drinking more and
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  Speaker 1: you're eating more, and you're doing all this stuff more
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  Speaker 1: than you normally would. And I have to say, I've
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  Speaker 1: had a week. I'm continuing to have a week, and
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  Speaker 1: it's great because I have friends, it's wonderful, But my goodness,
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  Speaker 1: am I tired?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? But I also found something that I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, and it's called It's called a lot of things,
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  Speaker 1: but most people call it twixtmis and this is the
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  Speaker 1: period between Christmas and New Year's. So here's a quote
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  Speaker 1: from Helena Fitzgerald at the Atlantic. But for many of us,
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  Speaker 1: whether still celebrating holidays, are having just finished Christmas festivities,
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  Speaker 1: this week is like a long hangover. To some degree.
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  Speaker 1: I think all of society feels a little aimless during
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  Speaker 1: these days. We're waiting for the new year, with all
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  Speaker 1: its resolutions and hopes for starting over, but we're not
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  Speaker 1: quite done with the old one. I call it dead week,
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  Speaker 1: a time when nothing counts and when nothing is quite real.
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  Speaker 1: The British call this boxing week. I would love if
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  Speaker 1: listeners Shortian about this. Oh yeah, yes. While in Norway
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  Speaker 1: it is called raw mule, which translates to time and
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  Speaker 1: space to celebrate Yule Tide, it also harkens back to
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  Speaker 1: an old Norse word meaning something along the lines of
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  Speaker 1: not adhering to any particular holiday, but others call it Tricksmas.
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  Speaker 1: And while it isn't officially recognized in the dictionary, that
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  Speaker 1: hasn't stopped companies from capitalizing on it and making it
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  Speaker 1: a week like Black Friday, shopping and deal. So when
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  Speaker 1: I was looking this up, that's what I was mostly getting.
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  Speaker 1: Urban Dictionary suggest it may come from the slogan twigs
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  Speaker 1: take a break from the very popular candy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought you were going to say.
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  Speaker 2: Something about the candy. I'm interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Nope, but maybe maybe. I also learned about Women's Christmas,
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  Speaker 1: which is celebrated in Ireland on January sixth, which is
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  Speaker 1: twelve days after Christmas. Men would give women the day
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  Speaker 1: off by taking on their traditional roles and goose is
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  Speaker 1: the typical meat that is served. Meanwhile, the women would
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  Speaker 1: get together and celebrate with each other, which could be
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  Speaker 1: like having tea or going to the bar, because prior
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  Speaker 1: to nineteen fifty eight, this was the only day women
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  Speaker 1: were allowed in pubs without a chaperone, a male chaperone.
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  Speaker 3: What a low bar?
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  Speaker 2: I know, I just like it, Like I can't really
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  Speaker 2: yeap one day you get one day, you.
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  Speaker 1: Get one day after doing as for Christmas, and.
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  Speaker 3: That day you can get a drink. You what the hell?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's both like good. At least someone's doing
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  Speaker 2: it and it's recognized. This is that whole little like
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  Speaker 2: but this is a bare minimum.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's yes, yes, and it's faded away from a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Ireland, but it is still celebrated in some places.
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  Speaker 1: So again I would love if listeners right in about it.
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  Speaker 1: It was also the day Christmas decorations were taken down
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  Speaker 1: because it was viewed as bad luck to lead them
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  Speaker 1: up any longer. So one would hope the men would
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  Speaker 1: be doing the taken down of decorations.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 1: I think when I think about this time, it does
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  Speaker 1: feel like a bizarre You're not really off of work,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of people are. It just it has
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  Speaker 1: a strange end of the school year vibe, but not
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  Speaker 1: in the not in the like, oh, here's the last day,
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  Speaker 1: but more in the I think it's over, but I
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  Speaker 1: have to still be around in case it's not over, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's bizarre. Time does feel strange in the
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  Speaker 1: last week of the year, And for me it has
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  Speaker 1: become We've talked about this before, but for me it
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  Speaker 1: has become an exercise in the value of doing nothing
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  Speaker 1: or just doing what you want to do before you
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  Speaker 1: get to the new year. And so I try to
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  Speaker 1: play my favorite games and watch my favorite movies, and
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  Speaker 1: write fan fiction and read fan fiction, which unfortunately I'm
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  Speaker 1: way way way behind on. And again, if they knew, Samantha,
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  Speaker 1: they would blame you and some other people. But you days.
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  Speaker 3: Plenty of time.
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  Speaker 1: No no, no, no no, because then you're tired and
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  Speaker 1: you have to recover and my fan fiction is intricate.
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  Speaker 1: I need to be firing on all cylinders. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think of this time of year? Do you have
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  Speaker 1: any plans?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of gotten different because of the
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  Speaker 2: merging of family visits when it becomes a couple things.
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  Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this yesterday. I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is such a weird place for me, because for
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  Speaker 2: the first thirty eight years, thirty nine years, this was
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  Speaker 2: not a thing where I visited other people's families because
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  Speaker 2: we had like we were that intertwined, like getting into
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  Speaker 2: a relationship. So doing this has really kind of and
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  Speaker 2: I think other couples will know, like made it.
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  Speaker 3: More hectic, so because I.
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  Speaker 2: Want to blend time with people and making sure that
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  Speaker 2: we have time with people. Because his family is from
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  Speaker 2: out of town, so we have to travel a good
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  Speaker 2: six hours away to get to them. We spend after
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  Speaker 2: Christmas with them, so spending Christmas at my parents for
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  Speaker 2: the day. But because they are closer to me, I
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  Speaker 2: get to see them more. So they're only an hour
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  Speaker 2: and a half away versus his family being like five
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  Speaker 2: to six seven hours away. According to how many times
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  Speaker 2: we have to stop for him or for Peaches, because
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  Speaker 2: I'm bad about that. I'm all about driving straight there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no breaks until we have to dig gas.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the only one who thinks this way.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, so it's interesting because it becomes elongated family times,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't mind at all, especially with his family,
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  Speaker 2: Like I really do enjoy seeing them and hanging out
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  Speaker 2: with them, and like we do game nights and we
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  Speaker 2: do like hangouts and we go to do different things.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a lovely time. And it's also kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Like for me feeling like I'm fulfilling some childhood stuff
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  Speaker 2: where I didn't get to play games with my family.
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  Speaker 2: We did not do that. My parents were too busy.
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  Speaker 2: My parents were too tired, rightly, so, like there's so
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  Speaker 2: many things that they had to do in order to
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  Speaker 2: make sure we were good and were able to eat
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  Speaker 2: and so vibe and have a house and all these
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  Speaker 2: things that oftentimes when they came home that was the
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  Speaker 2: end of it. My brothers and I were not close.
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  Speaker 2: My oldest siblings were five to ten year gap for
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  Speaker 2: my older two siblings and us, so of course they
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to hang out with us. They're, you know,
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  Speaker 2: teenagers and we're little kids. The elementary school kids or
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  Speaker 2: I didn't come into the US so I was seven.
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  Speaker 2: So my brother and I fought for the first five
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  Speaker 2: years of our lives like pretty hardcore who was closer
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  Speaker 2: to my age and with all of that. So I
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  Speaker 2: didn't live like that. So we're going to like his
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  Speaker 2: families who they enjoy playing board games. We played Katan
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  Speaker 2: your favorite game twice. We still talk about your we
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  Speaker 2: talk about your reaction to Katan and his family and circle.
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  Speaker 2: Just so you know, to the point that they know
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  Speaker 2: you so well, they ask about you. They've never met you.
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  Speaker 1: They've asked one time, I'm going to be on this
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  Speaker 1: family trip with you? Oh yeah, I need you to.
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  Speaker 1: They would love it.
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  Speaker 3: I think they would have the best time with you.
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  Speaker 2: But all that to say, you know, like so for
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  Speaker 2: that we have like an extended amount of time where
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  Speaker 2: its visits, so it feels still like the holidays that
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  Speaker 2: in between. And also I've told you that the New
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  Speaker 2: Year's gets kind of hectic in our neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate that it's.
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  Speaker 2: A stereotype about Atlanta, but there's a lot of shootings happening,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think they're actually violent. They're celebratory but
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  Speaker 2: it scares the hell out of me because I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: straight bullets. There's so many. There's so many like semi
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  Speaker 2: automatic weapons that are going off that I'm like, how
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  Speaker 2: did y'all get those? But you know that's not really
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  Speaker 2: the question. But yeah, so that time of the week
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  Speaker 2: is odd. It's it's more holidays, Like it doesn't feel
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  Speaker 2: like an in between. It feels like just the same
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  Speaker 2: where it kind of as like the celebrating the Yule died.
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  Speaker 3: It feels that way. Still, Yeah, very long answer.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, No, I don't know. I mean it was interesting
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  Speaker 1: to read different people's responses because some people were like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I continue it, to keep on doing the holidays, and
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  Speaker 1: other people were like, I'm not leaving my pajamas. I'm
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  Speaker 1: drinking in the day and I'm watching TV. And I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well you do that. We do a family for the holidays.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we do too. I love a pure jama
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  Speaker 1: day all day. Yeah, that's pretty much what I do now.
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  Speaker 1: I used to be more of a I did an
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  Speaker 1: a bunch more stuff, but then probably around pandemic, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, nah, I'm good, that's all right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of where you cemented.
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  Speaker 2: The New Year's Pajama toast special holiday rendition of Sunday
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  Speaker 2: Sunday Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just watching of Star Wars for people who don't
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  Speaker 1: know they rich with trilogy with mac and cheese, with
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  Speaker 1: a lot that I mac and cheese, then I make
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  Speaker 1: my suit. But I do think it's interesting because it
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  Speaker 1: does feel like a whole week that's like we don't
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  Speaker 1: have it off, but we kind of do. It's bizarre,
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  Speaker 1: bizarre week.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we definitely worked those hours, it's just cram
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  Speaker 2: it all into like two weeks instead of the four
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  Speaker 2: or five weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but just like in general, not even just us,
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  Speaker 1: it just it just feels like.
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  Speaker 3: A weird setup to like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, once upon a time when I
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  Speaker 2: worked in government, I only had three days off and
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  Speaker 2: I was right back and came back. The in betweens
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  Speaker 2: were odd because a lot of people would take off
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  Speaker 2: you said, pto to be with their family, especially with
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  Speaker 2: schools out.
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  Speaker 3: So children being home. This was a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some people used to like, no, I can't be
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  Speaker 2: at home, I have to go. Sorry, kids, good luck,
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  Speaker 2: here's some ramen and some TV. I'm just kidding, but
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  Speaker 2: like those It was weird because the office as when
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  Speaker 2: I was a single person, as a single person with
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  Speaker 2: no children, office would be empty, like I'd just be
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  Speaker 2: there by myself because there was no reason for me
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  Speaker 2: to take those days off, and it was. It was
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  Speaker 2: actually slower because people were like doing their own thing.
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  Speaker 2: The aftermath of that, yeah, was a healthscape. But in
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  Speaker 2: between truly working those like nine to five jobs where
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  Speaker 2: you just have to be present, you have to do whatever,
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  Speaker 2: keep going, it was an eerie It felt eerie.
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  Speaker 3: They're also nice to be alone in that office.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've told my story before about how I had
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  Speaker 1: to work the day after Thanksgiving once and then no
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  Speaker 1: one believed I worked it, even though I hadn't proof
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  Speaker 1: I did. But I was watching horror movies while I
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  Speaker 1: was just waiting step to encode, which was like my job.
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  Speaker 1: I just had to wait for the incode. But I
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  Speaker 1: got spooped because I was the only person in there.
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  Speaker 1: Guys looking around, well, listeners, I would love to hear
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  Speaker 1: from any of you, if you have thoughts on this,
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  Speaker 1: if you have any traditions that you do, and during
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  Speaker 1: this this final week of the year, especially listeners around
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  Speaker 1: the world, I would love to hear if any of
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  Speaker 1: this is true. Oh, I hope it is, but you
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  Speaker 1: never know unless you live in the place, honestly, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: please write in I hope you're doing well. I hope
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  Speaker 1: you do get to relax. We are planning some relaxation
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