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Brian Thomas: Refuting Lies About Slavery, America & Christianity · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Hey, friends. Welcome to World View Matters. Very important topic today with one of my good brothers Brian Thomas from blessings to Israel.com
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But we're going to be talking about lies about slavery and I just want to read a
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Brief quote here that slavery continues all around the world. In fact, Ethiopia had slavery until 1942
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Saudi Arabia had slavery until 1962 Peru
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1964 India until 1976
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slavery is still in South Africa in Sudan and
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My goodness, let's just talk about politically correct media and school textbooks because that's what we're going to do today
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We're going to try to refute some of the lies because they give the impression that slavery has primarily been a sin committed by white people who enslaved blacks
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Well, the fact is only about 25% of Americans in the South had slaves before the civil
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War it's commonly not mentioned right and even some black Americans over 400 black Americans in Charleston, South Carolina alone
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Had slaves at the time so we're going to talk about this and the fact that America's wealth was not
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Built on the backs of slaves because that's the story you hear coming up on World View Matters
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Welcome to World View Matters
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No topic off limits and now here's your host David Firazzo
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Friends, thank you. I was telling Brian before we got on the podcast that this is not one of my favorite topics, but since the lies
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They've been believed the deception goes deep here in America, especially since the BLM
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Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation has made so much
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Impact and that's based on Marxism and deception and
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Antichristian rhetoric is really astounding how many people even in the church have fallen for this
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But how do we know if we're not going to get the truth from the church the media Hollywood
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You know the Democrats where are you going to get the truth? So Brian, thank you so much brother
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I want to bring you in right now, and then we'll give you your website. It's good to see you
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Always a blessing to be with you David glad to be here. Yes
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So blessings to israel.com also over on YouTube discerning the times on
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YouTube and
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The Facebook you can get look them up on Facebook friends blessings to Israel on Facebook
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So Brian, just your overall thoughts. This is not one of the top one of those topics that I'd like to
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Address but unfortunately I believe we need to because of the ignorance and the lies the deception the miss
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Education your thoughts before we dive in
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Yeah, you're right David is unfortunate a lot of lies misconceptions out there people believing buy it into a lot of things that the the left is media
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tries to
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You know, they're just they're just out there to convince people of things that are not true because they have these agendas and
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You know as you were saying in your opening. It is true that there are a lot of people that view
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Slavery is only having been where it was whites that enslaved blacks and I was talking to a pastor some years ago and
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He was telling me no people group has ever been treated as bad as blacks have been through slavery
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And I said well have you not read the Bible in which if you go back to the book of Exodus it speaks of how
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Atrocious things were done against the Jews as you know in our ministry
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We we focus a lot on Israel and Jewish people but what happened there in in Egypt
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To the the Hebrew slaves nothing compares to that and that's not to minimize what has happened to black slaves
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I'm not doing that at all
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But the blacks haven't been enslaved by white
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So certainly not the only people group to have been enslaved and well David that pastor told me he said well
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What happened to the Jews was not worse as bad as what has happened to blacks?
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And I was just floored by that because yes, there have been atrocious things done to blacks
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But if you look at the Nazi Holocaust, you know the Jews placed in gas chambers
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Babies being thrown alive into graves that type of thing did not happen to blacks in our nation
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So so yeah, you're right. There are a lot of misconceptions a lot of lies that people are buying into
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So before we jump into there's a really fascinating article
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I believe I don't remember if it was and I think it was on sub-stack
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By Rod Martin about June 10th
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We've heard a lot about June 13th recently. There it is and he says no
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America's wealth wasn't built by slaves
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Slavery is actually held us back from prospering
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So we'll get to that in a minute Brian over on your Facebook page
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Want to give you an opportunity to plug one of your recent programs?
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I love some of the things you you dove into here
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You did a part three on what does it all mean discerning the times you talked about the rush towards globalism
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also the disintegration of morality in the West the rapid advancement in technology and of course you talked about an
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Increasing religious deception in the church tells a little bit about that
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Program and whatever else you like to highlight before we move on
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Yeah, thank you, David. So yeah, that's so that was a three-part series in which we went through those five main points in which we
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Discuss and we be at my co-host Dr. Bruce Logan and we talked about things that are happening in the world because there is no shortage of things happening right now
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I see even
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People that are not believers in Jesus Christ
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They're even saying what is happening? Why why are these things going on? It just feels like
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Something majors about to take place and I really think David that major thing that we're building towards is the return of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
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So we go through and and we're trying to to wake people up as Jesus told the Pharisees and Sadducees that is first coming
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He said you can discern the weather you look at the sky and you you see the sky is red and you can tell whether it's going to rain or not
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But he said you can't discern the signs of the times because there he was right in front of them and they were not
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Discerning and I see a repeat happening today concerning the second coming of Jesus Christ
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So I want to encourage your audience if they will go out and take a listen to that three-part series as we walk through the different things that are happening and
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And what the Bible says to that and we're cautious David not to be
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Sensationless we don't look at every single thing that happens in the headlines and try to say it's a fulfillment of prophecy
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But when you look at it in the grand scheme of things
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We see a lot of what the Bible says would take place leading up to the return of Jesus Christ
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Those things are happening today artificial intelligence
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Globalism cover all of that and I I think it'll be a blessing to those who take a listen
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Yes, thank you so much brother
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We appreciate you covering some of those things that things aren't happening fast and very prophetic some of these signs, but I want to go back
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And read another quote you know Satan has been successfully deceiving people into thinking
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In America for example, Christianity is to blame for many of the world's problems Brian before I read another excerpt another quote
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How do you respond to someone who might say well Christians or our founders all owned slaves?
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Yeah, that that is a great deception that you you often see out there and and David
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I you know
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I don't know if every single one of them was a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ
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Of course, but I do think when you look at our Constitution God's hand was on it the way they wrote it
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It is so unique and the fact that our nation has has lived under that Constitution now for over 200 years
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I mean, we've long outlasted what the average
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Lifespan is for a kingdom and we've prospered for a long period of time and if you look around in Washington DC
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They're Bible verses all over the place in the structures
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Unfortunately, our nation has has turned away from that
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But I certainly believe that our nation's fathers had the word of God in their hearts and in their mind when they
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wrote the Constitution because they wrote it in a way so that that was a balance of power so that nobody could
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No, no one human being or or even a an entity a body could
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Lord over the people they did it so that there was a balance of power and I think you see the biblical concepts throughout
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Yes, and we're not going to talk a lot about the influence of Christianity on America
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Hopefully our audience knows that our viewers and our listeners
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But we always have new people tuning in and checking it out
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Maybe they haven't heard these things before we are going to talk about slavery, but I want to go back
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I actually wrote a chapter in one of my books
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Canceling Christianity. I wrote a chapter on the historic impact of Christianity because people don't know people
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tend to blame the church or America or Christians for problems all around the world and I'm going
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wow
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Hospitals charities, you know humanitarian enough. I'm to figure all these things are from
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Because of the church so I want to go back to something in the book here
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It says throughout history when human beings were treated harshly throughout history and without dignity
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It was Christians who spearheaded reforms
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Jesus himself
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He said he offered himself to all individuals classes nations tribes. He was all
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Any whoever would come to him. He said but no people nation organization or religion has done more
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Regarding the freedom
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Social reform and education of minorities than the Christian church and then I want to read one more
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quote here and this is from
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This is about slavery
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Even after slavery was outlawed in the US in 1865 the practice continued in other countries
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for over a hundred years
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And people still point their fingers to America bad America bad America is your fault
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One more thing and I'll let you respond Brian
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According to the human rights organization you can free us
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Over 45 million people are enslaved in the world today. What
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Women and children make up 95% of modern-day slaves
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And 80% are used in sexual exploitation
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By the way, Houston is one of the busiest hubs
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That maybe there are other cities now that are close to that
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But human trafficking has surged. It's over and this was like five years maybe four five years ago
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Human trafficking is over 150 billion dollar a year industry
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So we're blaming America for the world's problems and slavery go ahead and respond Brian
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Yeah, and as you said david if people really know the history look back and do your study do your research
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When we look at Ivy League schools like Harvard those schools were
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They came about for the sake of Christianity
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When they began more than 50% I believe it was at Harvard of the graduates were pastors
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If you just look around at hospitals today a large majority of hospitals have in their name
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Something that is founded in Christianity and we get natural disasters in our nation today
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The first ones on the scene are organizations like Samaritan's purse
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Led by Franklin Graham the Christians are there
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And so for all the people out there that want to say Christianity is doing bad things or is unloving and this holding things back
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There are people that are being influenced by Satan unfortunately
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And it is really heartbreak and as you said when you look at slavery today in terms of sex slavery
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And what is happening at our nation's southern border and I see people that are saying things like how unloving it is to to send
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These illegals back and to keep them out
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But if you really understand what is taking place the number of children
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I mean there are tens of thousands of children right now that are missing
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They don't know where these children are
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And the unfortunate thing David is the majority of them probably are in the sex trafficking trade
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And it's just really heartbreaking it is truly heartbreak and the way Satan
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Has deceived so many people into going along with what is evil
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Okay, so now let's get a little political Brian
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And we need to do that because of the lies of the media and the rewritten or edited
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text book publishers and what children are taught
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And that is let's just take for example the Democrat Party
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And it is astounding to me that we have to do this it really is
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But the Democrat Party wanted to keep black Americans enslaved they fought a war the civil war
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So share a little bit about that Brian because a lot of people
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They still hear the media today
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And it's astounding they say well the Democrats are for blacks and I'm going
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People don't know their history do they no no they don't they don't because you're exactly right David
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It was the Democrats that were leading the way in trying to keep slavery in place
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The civil war that fact of the matter is it was the Republican Party that came about to
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Deliver the slaves to to get them to freedom
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Under the leadership of Abraham Lincoln who again sadly
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I've spoken even with pastors on this over the years and I've shared with them
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Abraham Lincoln was a white man
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He was leading the Republican Party
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He's the one that signed the emancipation declaration
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So
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How is it that you come up with this idea that is the whites who are keeping blacks in slave
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And also if you look at history it was the Democratic Party out of which the KKK was born David
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And the thing is I have shared this with with other blacks who are just all pro-democrat pro-black
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I've shared this with them
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But David is like they have a willful ignorance even though you share it with them
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They won't receive it. They they're just anti-Republican and and the sad thing about it
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I think David is just they have so much hatred within their hearts
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So much hardness within their hearts that they're not willing to see the truth
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They're not willing to receive the truth and what we've seen I think in our nation is once the
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Civil War took place and slavery was abolished well the Democrats came up with another way
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Of keeping blacks enslaved and that's through government handouts. Yes, and that's the other way in which today when you look at people
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You know the the Democrats they they literally push for slavery prior to
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slavery being abolished and today they are figuratively
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Pushing for slavery by keeping people dependent on the government
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And David the thing is we're not anti-government the Bible speaks of government in the book is chapter 13
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God says that the governing authorities are his ministers so they are ordained by God
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But what happens is sinful man comes in and does things out of the order of what God ordained it for and they tried to make people be
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Dependent upon the government to provide their knees as opposed to looking to God
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And that is what we see in his great deception because the Republican Party tries to limit government so that people can
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Learn how to fish David
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So that you can be innovative and and create and and invent
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But instead the Democrat Party limits that because they just want to give a handout and that keeps people dependent on the Democrat Party
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Amen, brother so much more to come with Brian Thomas and by the way when we come back
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So
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Friends, I'm not going to make you guess but the original platform of the Republican Party when it was founded was
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Free soil free labor free men
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Um, and by the way
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The this is interesting the Republican Party never had a member who owned a slave never had its own terror wing like the KKK
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Like Brian mentioned the weather underground black lives matter global network foundation or antifa
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Nothing like that came out of the Republican Party not that they're all angels
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But we're just doing a stark contrast to comparison here one more thing we'll get to we'll get Brian's response by the time Abraham Lincoln
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One the presidency the north
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Had pulled ahead of the slave south by virtually every measure including economically
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But certainly in terms of factories railroads shipping everything needed to create a modern
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Economy this is very interesting. So Brian I'll bring you in and just go back to that either talk about the platform
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And how the Republican Party started out or you can just talk about what was going on at the time of the Civil War
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and the development and maybe not quite the industrial age but the development in the north
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And as opposed to the south they weren't fairing as well
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Go ahead your thoughts
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Yeah, it's a great point that article highlights the fact that when there is freedom
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people have a spirit of innovation people have ambition when you have people in slave David there there is no
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Motivation to innovate to invent things and all you have to do is look around the world today look at Korea
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I saw satellite image at night of north and south Korea and you see the the start contrast because in North Korea
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Where there's a totalitarianism
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It's completely dark
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But in South Korea where there's freedom you see the lights are on and it's just a totally different climate in which the people live in those places
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And when you look around the world
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You know, well if you look at the United States going back to that period that you were speaking of yes
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The north was by far more advanced than the south because there were free people that were innovators
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And I've had even in my family. I have great aunts and uncles
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Who many of them moved from the south and moved to the north because there were more opportunities
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There was more prosperity and the thing about it David is slavery is not of God
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So anytime you do things your implement systems that are not of God
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They're not going to prosper and you see that throughout the world
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And some people will make a mistake. I've heard people who try to discredit the Bible and they'll say well the Bible condones
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slavery
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No, the Bible is not condoned slavery not slavery that we're speaking of where you are taking away a person's freedom
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There is something called a bond servant where people literally with willingly
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Work for someone but they were not enslaved against their will
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And then you have to make a distinction between descriptive and prescriptive
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Just because the Bible speaks of someone being in slavery doesn't mean that God was condoning it
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But there is something called a bond servant and David we as believers in Christ the Bible says we are to be bond servants of Christ
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We willingly
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Serve him and so that's a good thing
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But when you're enslaving someone against their will against their freedom
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It is not going to prosper
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We saw it happen in our nation back in the south
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200 years ago
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You see it happening throughout the world today in places like North Korea and many other places where slavery still exists
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So let's talk about what we were just referencing and that's in this article by the way friends
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More slavery means less prosperity which Brian was just saying even
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Hundreds of years later. There's a chart here that talks about the more dependent
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On slavery a nation was for example in the year 1750
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the poorer
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That nation was in the year 2000 and it's got this lion going down
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It's very fascinating. So again friends the more
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dependent on slavery a nation was there it is
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In 1750 the poorer that nation was in the year 2000. So now
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Let's talk about another lie Brian we
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I'm just kind of just see what's coming up here to so I can make sure we're going to get through what we need to get through
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We we heard the lie about
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cotton production where was that here we go
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um
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A lot of Marxists and and Democrats and historians on that side claim
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That slave-based crops like cotton and those the goods that came from them created American wealth
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And economic historians for example, I'm going to refute this say that US cotton played no role
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In kickstarting the industrial revolution and it says although cotton exports
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comprised a large share of total exports prior to the civil war
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They accounted for only five percent
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Five of the nation's GDP care to comment on that Brian because we've heard those lies as well
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Yeah, yeah, it's quite interesting David and what I really think those lies are thrown out there is to stoke division
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That is the the playbook of the Marxists the leftist is to constantly keep a division there keep people worked up keep people angry about the past
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Christianity says no you you forgive you you move forward you don't hold on to things
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But there are people that are trying to hold on to things that were done 200 years ago
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That is not of God and so what it does is it creates this thing within people of saying
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If well our ancestors were put in slavery and
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Against their will so they were brought here and they did all this for this country to build it up
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And and what do we get out of it?
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And now you have left this the Democrats are trying to come up with all of these reparation plans trying to
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say that
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Blacks deserve to be paid all of this money
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For something that David I had nothing to do with you had nothing to do with none of us alive today had
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Anything to do with that, but yet they're trying to say we deserve reparations
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The reality of it David is there the money does not exist to even pay these families what they're
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Trying to propose, but
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All it's doing is it's stoking the flames it's keeping people worked up in a frenzy to be against one another
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It's the again right out of the Marxist playbook, which is a
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Satan
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Yes class warfare victimization and that's the left is also stoking
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This victimhood this victim mentality like like they are victims
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So the world or America whoever owes them something, but so four and a half minutes left Brian
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Why does this all matter so because the lies are prevalent and I think most institutions in America most most
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For example education Hollywood I got to put education in air quotes
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The public schools Hollywood the Democrat Party of course the media the Democrat media
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Universities so where do you get the truth if your pastor friends if your pastor when he's teaching through the Bible
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If they don't get in depth on this they can talk about Israel
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In the Old Testament they can talk about the New Testament and Romans and Philemon who was a former slave by the way
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And Paul says once he got saved you treat him like a brother
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Anyway, where do you get that if your pastor is not going to preach or teach on this
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People are not going to get the truth anywhere
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So that's why we've got to do programs like this
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but so the Democrats have based that kind of like their
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gaining people gaining converts on lies
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And they've been very successful and this is it's really deceptive and it is demonic Brian any other thoughts
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Yeah, David you're right. It's really deceptive is demonic and so many people fall for it hookline and sinker
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One of the things that we saw it was very common back during the George Floyd time where
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What would you see in the headlines in the news? It was a constant thing
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Of the headlines we would read white cop shoots unarmed black man
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David that's nothing but to bring about division is nothing but to paint a narrative that was not true
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Because they get very easily just say well that was a cop that shot an unarmed man
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But they put the ethnicity in there because they're trying to again stoke the flames
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But what we would often find is in a lot of those cases once the facts came out
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The truth of the matter is that well the the so-called victim oftentimes was in the process of committing a crime
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Not complying with the police officer resisting arrest
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But that's not put out there in the beginning and so the damage has already been done in terms of public opinion at that point
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But that's the narrative and people have to be discerning you get discernment from the Holy Spirit
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And unfortunately many pool pits today. You're not are not giving people the truth
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And so David that's why programs like yours is so important
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And I point people to programs like yours all the time because if you really want to know the truth
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We have to stop following the media because they're not in it for for God's agenda. They're in it for Satan's agenda
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Thanks Brian. So let's bring this again back to the Christian perspective
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I want to go Galatians chapter three. This is one of those verses I love to share
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Verse 26 now this is once you are saved and become a child of God through faith in Jesus Christ
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It says you are all
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sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus for you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ get this
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There is neither Jew nor Greek. There is neither slave nor free man
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There is neither male nor female you are all one
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In Christ Jesus and if you belong to Christ then your Abraham's descendants
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Ares according to promise. It's the end of Galatians chapter three Brian wrap it up your final thoughts in about a minute
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Yeah, well, that's a great verse to end on and David
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I encourage people to please take to heart what you just read and said and to to get this division out of their hearts
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If you want to be in the kingdom of God
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You have to love in the way that God loves and as that verse so rightly says God does not make a distinction. There's no favoritism
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There's no racism the Bible says in the revelation that when John looked in Saul heaven
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He saw there was a representative from every tribe tongue and nation and so we have to love everyone the way Jesus loves
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And again stop falling for the leftist media and I encourage people
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If you are always looking at things through the eyes of skin color
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There's something in your heart. That's not right and I encourage you to take it to the Lord and seek repentance
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So that you can see a love in the way that he loves
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Amen brother and by the way friends you can go to the a blessings to Israel website or the Facebook page and you
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There's an opportunity to sign up for the discerning the times newsletter on there. Thank you for all you do
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Brian give her best to denieta and
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Landon your son friends pray for him God's protection over his health and his heart and Lord willing will do this again
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Thanks for your time today
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Absolutely. Thank you David. Glad to be with you once again and it is a blessing. Thank you praise God friends
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Thank you for sharing the podcast God bless you and as always keep speaking the truth about things that matter