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Homer's The Odyssey: A Discussion of the World's First Travel Book with Phil Cousineau · The Frommer's Travel Show

• 0:11
  Foreign.
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  And
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  welcome
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  to
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  the
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  Fromer
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  Travel
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  Show.
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  I'm
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  your
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  host,
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  Pauline
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  Fromer.
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  So
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  glad
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  you
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  could
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  join
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  me
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  today.
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  And
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  you're
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  going
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  to
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  be
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  happy
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  you
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  did
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  because
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  I
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  have
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  a
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  legend
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  in
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  many
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  fields
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  as
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  my
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  guest
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  today.
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  He
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  is
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  an
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  iconic
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  travel
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  writer.
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  You
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  may
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  know
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  him
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  as
• 0:39
  the
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  author
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  of
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  the
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  Art
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  of
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  Pilgrimage,
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  but
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  that's
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  just
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  one
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  of
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  40
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  books
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  that
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  he's
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  written.
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  He
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  also
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  has
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  written
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  35
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  screenplays.
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  He
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  was
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  the
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  host
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  on
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  PBS
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  for
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  many
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  years
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  of
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  the
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  Global
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  Spirit
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  Show.
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  He
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  is
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  a
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  mythologist
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  who
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  started
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  his
• 0:58
  work
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  with
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  the
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  late,
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  great
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  Joseph
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  Campbell.
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  And
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  he
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  was
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  a
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  steelworker.
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  He's
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  done,
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  done
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  gardening.
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  He's
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  done
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  so
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  many
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  things
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  in
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  his
• 1:08
  life.
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  He
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  leads
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  tours.
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  So
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  if
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  you
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  like
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  what
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  you
• 1:10
  hear
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  today,
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  you
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  could
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  actually
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  be
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  in
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  his
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  presence.
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  I'm
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  honored
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  to
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  be
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  in
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  his
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  presence
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  today.
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  Hey,
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  Phil,
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  always
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  such
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  a
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  pleasure
• 1:18
  seeing
• 1:19
  you.
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  What
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  a
• 1:20
  joy.
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  What
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  a
• 1:21
  joy.
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  Why
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  would
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  we
• 1:23
  do
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  this
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  otherwise
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  unless
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  we
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  could
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  have
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  some
• 1:25
  joy
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  and
• 1:25
  pleasure
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  from
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  this,
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  Right?
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  That's
• 1:27
  very
• 1:28
  true.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  I
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  gotta
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  say,
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  you
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  are
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  totally
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  on
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  trend
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  because
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  this
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  summer,
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  probably
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  the
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  biggest
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  film
• 1:35
  opening
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  of
• 1:36
  the
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  summer
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  is
• 1:38
  going
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  to
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  be
• 1:38
  Matt
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  Damon
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  and
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  Zendaya
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  in
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  a
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  new
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  version
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  of
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  the
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  Odyssey.
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  And
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  you
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  had
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  the
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  smart
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  idea
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  of
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  trying
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  to
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  unpack
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  the
• 1:51
  Odyssey
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  further
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  in
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  a
• 1:53
  book
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  so
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  that
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  people
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  really
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  could
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  get
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  all
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  they
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  could
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  out
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  of
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  that
• 1:57
  film.
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  It
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  is
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  a
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  wonderful
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  book.
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  It
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  is
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  called
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  the
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  wisdom
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  of
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  the
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  24
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  life
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  lessons
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  from
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  Homer's
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  Epic.
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  So
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  many
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  congratulations
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  on
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  the
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  book,
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  Phil.
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  Well,
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  thank
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  you.
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  Timing
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  is
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  everything,
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  isn't
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  it?
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  Yeah.
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  Did
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  you
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  know
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  that
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  this
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  movie
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  was
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  coming
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  out
• 2:17
  when
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  you
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  decided
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  to
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  do
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  the
• 2:18
  book?
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  Well,
• 2:19
  it
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  felt
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  inevitable.
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  I've
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  been
• 2:23
  going
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  to
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  Greece
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  for
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  over
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  50
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  years,
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  leading
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  tours
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  there
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  for
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  at
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  least
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  30
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  years.
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  Half
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  a
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  dozen
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  years
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  ago
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  or
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  so,
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  I
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  found
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  myself
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  finally
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  on
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  Ithaca
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  itself,
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  which
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  is
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  as
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  it
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  should
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  be
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  difficult
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  to
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  get
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  to.
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  It's
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  actually
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  a
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  four
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  hour
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  ferry
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  ride
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  off
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  the
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  west
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  coast
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  of
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  Greece.
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  So
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  it
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  takes
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  a
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  while.
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  It's
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  an
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  effort
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  to
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  get
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  there.
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  Wonderful.
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  For
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  all
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  of
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  us.
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  It's
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  little
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  visited,
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  it's
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  still
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  unexploited.
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  So
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  if
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  any
• 2:48
  of
• 2:48
  you
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  are
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  looking
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  for
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  unusual
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  sites
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  to
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  go
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  to,
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  Homer's
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  Ithaca
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  is
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  one
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  of
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  those.
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  So
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  I
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  was
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  there
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  a
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  number
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  of
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  years
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  ago
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  and
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  walking
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  up
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  to
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  the
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  steps
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  leading
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  to
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  the
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  reputed
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  palace
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  of
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  Odysseus
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  and
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  Penelope.
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  And
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  since
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  I
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  had
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  been
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  reading
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  this
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  since
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  I
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  was
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  a
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  boy
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  reading
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  the
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  Odyssey
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  out
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  loud
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  with
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  my
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  father,
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  I
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  remembered
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  this
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  scene
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  about
• 3:11
  Odysseus
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  having
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  been
• 3:12
  gone
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  for
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  20
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  years.
• 3:13
  He
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  arrives
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  at
• 3:14
  the
• 3:14
  stone
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  steps
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  and
• 3:16
  there
• 3:16
  is
• 3:16
  his
• 3:17
  dog
• 3:17
  Argus,
• 3:18
  waiting
• 3:19
  for
• 3:19
  him
• 3:19
  after
• 3:20
  20
• 3:20
  years.
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  And
• 3:22
  it
• 3:22
  was
• 3:22
  at
• 3:22
  that
• 3:22
  moment
• 3:23
  I
• 3:23
  re.
• 3:23
  I
• 3:24
  have
• 3:24
  long
• 3:25
  trained
• 3:25
  myself,
• 3:26
  as
• 3:26
  you
• 3:26
  probably
• 3:27
  do
• 3:27
  as
• 3:27
  a
• 3:27
  writer,
• 3:28
  to
• 3:28
  trust
• 3:28
  that
• 3:29
  frison
• 3:30
  up
• 3:30
  the
• 3:30
  spine.
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  When
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  you
• 3:31
  get
• 3:31
  that
• 3:32
  shiver,
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  that
• 3:33
  shiver
• 3:33
  of
• 3:33
  truth,
• 3:34
  you
• 3:34
  better
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  stop
• 3:35
  and
• 3:35
  you
• 3:35
  better
• 3:36
  take
• 3:36
  a
• 3:36
  breath
• 3:36
  and
• 3:36
  listen
• 3:37
  to
• 3:37
  it.
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  And
• 3:38
  I
• 3:38
  thought,
• 3:38
  oh,
• 3:38
  my
• 3:38
  gosh,
• 3:39
  this
• 3:40
  story
• 3:40
  has
• 3:40
  never
• 3:40
  left
• 3:40
  me.
• 3:41
  I
• 3:42
  should
• 3:42
  write
• 3:42
  about
• 3:43
  this.
• 3:44
  Shortly
• 3:44
  after,
• 3:45
  I
• 3:45
  read
• 3:46
  this
• 3:46
  little
• 3:46
  tidbit
• 3:47
  that
• 3:47
  Christopher
• 3:48
  Nolan
• 3:48
  had
• 3:49
  actually
• 3:49
  been
• 3:49
  commissioned
• 3:50
  by
• 3:50
  to
• 3:51
  direct
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  movie
• 3:52
  Troy
• 3:52
  with
• 3:53
  Brad
• 3:53
  Pitt
• 3:53
  a
• 3:54
  few
• 3:54
  years
• 3:54
  ago,
• 3:54
  but
• 3:55
  he
• 3:55
  had
• 3:55
  a
• 3:55
  conflict
• 3:56
  in
• 3:56
  schedule
• 3:56
  and
• 3:57
  ended
• 3:57
  up
• 3:57
  being
• 3:57
  directed
• 3:58
  by
• 3:58
  Wolfgang
• 3:59
  Peterson.
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  So
• 4:00
  I
• 4:00
  knew
• 4:00
  he
• 4:01
  was
• 4:01
  fascinated
• 4:02
  by
• 4:02
  this
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  then
• 4:03
  discovered
• 4:04
  that
• 4:05
  he
• 4:05
  was
• 4:05
  coming
• 4:05
  out
• 4:06
  with
• 4:06
  this
• 4:06
  movie
• 4:07
  in
• 4:07
  super
• 4:07
  imax.
• 4:08
  This
• 4:09
  the
• 4:09
  first
• 4:09
  time
• 4:09
  in
• 4:09
  history
• 4:10
  an
• 4:10
  entire
• 4:11
  movie
• 4:11
  has
• 4:11
  been
• 4:11
  shot
• 4:12
  in
• 4:12
  imax.
• 4:13
  Oh,
• 4:13
  wow.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:14
  that
• 4:14
  was
• 4:14
  a
• 4:15
  signal
• 4:15
  to
• 4:15
  me
• 4:15
  he
• 4:16
  was
• 4:16
  going
• 4:16
  for
• 4:16
  it.
• 4:17
  In
• 4:17
  other
• 4:17
  words,
• 4:17
  this
• 4:18
  is.
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  like
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  think
• 4:19
  of
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  Odyssey
• 4:20
  as
• 4:20
  the
• 4:21
  centaur
• 4:21
  of
• 4:22
  literature,
• 4:23
  like
• 4:24
  the
• 4:24
  animal
• 4:24
  made
• 4:24
  up
• 4:25
  of
• 4:25
  many
• 4:25
  parts
• 4:25
  in
• 4:26
  Greek
• 4:26
  myth.
• 4:27
  This
• 4:27
  is
• 4:27
  a
• 4:27
  movie
• 4:27
  that's
• 4:28
  part
• 4:28
  history,
• 4:29
  part
• 4:29
  allegory,
• 4:30
  part
• 4:30
  psychodynamics.
• 4:32
  In
• 4:32
  all
• 4:33
  poetry,
• 4:33
  it's
• 4:34
  many,
• 4:34
  many
• 4:35
  things.
• 4:35
  And
• 4:36
  yet
• 4:36
  it
• 4:36
  takes
• 4:36
  a
• 4:36
  tremendous
• 4:37
  effort
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  focus
• 4:38
  on
• 4:38
  this
• 4:39
  as
• 4:39
  a
• 4:39
  film.
• 4:39
  What
• 4:40
  scenes
• 4:40
  do
• 4:40
  you
• 4:41
  shoot?
• 4:41
  Which
• 4:41
  characters
• 4:42
  do
• 4:42
  you
• 4:42
  keep
• 4:43
  being
• 4:43
  excited
• 4:44
  by
• 4:44
  this?
• 4:45
  Another
• 4:45
  thought
• 4:45
  came
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  me,
• 4:46
  and
• 4:47
  that
• 4:47
  is,
• 4:47
  you
• 4:48
  know,
• 4:48
  there's
• 4:48
  a
• 4:49
  kind
• 4:49
  of
• 4:49
  trivia
• 4:50
  in
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  publishing
• 4:50
  business.
• 4:51
  What
• 4:52
  is
• 4:52
  the
• 4:53
  most
• 4:54
  popular
• 4:54
  book
• 4:55
  that
• 4:56
  relatively
• 4:57
  went
• 4:57
  unread?
• 4:58
  9
• 4:58
  million
• 4:59
  copies
• 4:59
  of
• 4:59
  Stephen
• 5:00
  Hawking's
• 5:00
  A
• 5:00
  Brief
• 5:01
  History
• 5:01
  of
• 5:01
  Time
• 5:01
  were
• 5:02
  sold,
• 5:02
  and
• 5:02
  I'm
• 5:02
  guessing
• 5:03
  30
• 5:03
  or
• 5:03
  40
• 5:04
  were
• 5:04
  actually
• 5:04
  read.
• 5:05
  Right?
• 5:05
  It's
• 5:06
  one
• 5:06
  of
• 5:06
  those
• 5:06
  little
• 5:06
  trivia
• 5:07
  questions.
• 5:07
  But
• 5:08
  having
• 5:08
  been
• 5:08
  there
• 5:09
  so
• 5:09
  often
• 5:09
  in
• 5:09
  Greece
• 5:10
  and
• 5:10
  taught
• 5:11
  and
• 5:11
  teaching
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  Odyssey
• 5:12
  for
• 5:12
  years,
• 5:13
  I
• 5:13
  have
• 5:13
  discovered,
• 5:13
  to
• 5:14
  my
• 5:14
  dismay,
• 5:14
  that
• 5:15
  most
• 5:15
  people
• 5:15
  put
• 5:15
  it
• 5:16
  down
• 5:17
  after
• 5:17
  a
• 5:17
  few
• 5:18
  quotes.
• 5:18
  It's
• 5:19
  difficult
• 5:19
  poetry.
• 5:20
  The
• 5:21
  names
• 5:21
  are
• 5:21
  exotic,
• 5:22
  often
• 5:22
  very
• 5:23
  difficult
• 5:23
  to
• 5:24
  pronounce.
• 5:24
  And
• 5:25
  yet
• 5:25
  more,
• 5:25
  there's
• 5:26
  something
• 5:26
  else
• 5:26
  other
• 5:27
  than
• 5:27
  the
• 5:27
  reading
• 5:27
  of
• 5:28
  it
• 5:28
  because
• 5:28
  you
• 5:28
  had
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  in
• 5:29
  high
• 5:29
  school,
• 5:30
  or
• 5:30
  maybe
• 5:31
  you
• 5:31
  picked
• 5:31
  it
• 5:31
  up
• 5:32
  in
• 5:32
  a
• 5:32
  little
• 5:32
  taverna
• 5:34
  in
• 5:34
  Paros
• 5:35
  in
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  Greek
• 5:35
  islands.
• 5:36
  Most
• 5:37
  people
• 5:37
  don't
• 5:37
  get
• 5:37
  through
• 5:37
  it
• 5:38
  or
• 5:38
  they
• 5:39
  get
• 5:39
  something
• 5:39
  different
• 5:39
  out
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  it.
• 5:40
  So
• 5:40
  my
• 5:40
  idea
• 5:41
  was,
• 5:42
  let's
• 5:42
  go
• 5:42
  through,
• 5:43
  and
• 5:43
  ask,
• 5:44
  as
• 5:44
  we
• 5:44
  do,
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  all
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  classics,
• 5:45
  really,
• 5:46
  why
• 5:46
  did
• 5:47
  it.
• 5:47
  Why
• 5:47
  was
• 5:47
  it
• 5:47
  written?
• 5:48
  Why
• 5:48
  did
• 5:49
  it
• 5:49
  last?
• 5:49
  And
• 5:50
  as
• 5:50
  my
• 5:50
  teacher,
• 5:51
  Joe
• 5:51
  Campbell
• 5:52
  once
• 5:52
  told
• 5:52
  me,
• 5:53
  that
• 5:53
  the
• 5:53
  reason
• 5:54
  he
• 5:54
  thought
• 5:54
  his
• 5:55
  form
• 5:55
  of
• 5:55
  teaching,
• 5:56
  not
• 5:56
  just
• 5:56
  his
• 5:56
  writing,
• 5:57
  but
• 5:57
  his
• 5:57
  form
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  teaching,
• 5:58
  became
• 5:58
  popular
• 5:58
  was
• 5:59
  because
• 5:59
  of
• 6:00
  his
• 6:00
  female
• 6:01
  students
• 6:01
  at
• 6:01
  Sarah
• 6:02
  Lawrence,
• 6:02
  where
• 6:03
  He
• 6:03
  taught
• 6:03
  for
• 6:03
  38
• 6:04
  years.
• 6:04
  And
• 6:05
  they
• 6:05
  Would
• 6:05
  ask
• 6:05
  him
• 6:06
  about
• 6:06
  a
• 6:06
  month
• 6:06
  into
• 6:07
  the
• 6:07
  classes
• 6:07
  on
• 6:07
  mythology.
• 6:09
  Oh,
• 6:09
  Professor
• 6:09
  Campbell,
• 6:10
  you
• 6:10
  are
• 6:10
  so
• 6:10
  brilliant,
• 6:11
  you're
• 6:11
  so
• 6:11
  smart.
• 6:11
  But
• 6:13
  what
• 6:13
  does
• 6:13
  it
• 6:13
  mean
• 6:13
  to
• 6:14
  me?
• 6:15
  What
• 6:15
  does
• 6:15
  Babel
• 6:16
  mean
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  me
• 6:17
  today?
• 6:18
  What
• 6:18
  do
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  King
• 6:19
  Arthur
• 6:19
  legends
• 6:19
  mean?
• 6:19
  The
• 6:20
  Inanna
• 6:20
  stories
• 6:21
  from
• 6:21
  Babylon?
• 6:22
  So
• 6:22
  I
• 6:23
  suddenly,
• 6:23
  when
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  heard
• 6:24
  that
• 6:25
  Christopher
• 6:25
  Nolan
• 6:25
  was
• 6:26
  making
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  movie,
• 6:26
  boom,
• 6:27
  boom,
• 6:27
  boom,
• 6:27
  it
• 6:27
  came
• 6:28
  to
• 6:28
  me.
• 6:28
  Let's
• 6:29
  write
• 6:29
  a
• 6:29
  book
• 6:29
  that's
• 6:29
  a
• 6:29
  commentary,
• 6:30
  not
• 6:30
  just
• 6:31
  on
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  action,
• 6:32
  but
• 6:32
  what
• 6:32
  does
• 6:33
  it
• 6:33
  mean
• 6:33
  to
• 6:34
  people
• 6:34
  then?
• 6:35
  What
• 6:35
  does
• 6:35
  it
• 6:35
  mean
• 6:35
  to
• 6:36
  us
• 6:36
  now?
• 6:38
  Yeah,
• 6:38
  absolutely.
• 6:39
  And
• 6:39
  I
• 6:39
  felt
• 6:40
  you
• 6:40
  brought
• 6:41
  that
• 6:41
  really
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  life
• 6:42
  in
• 6:43
  your
• 6:43
  first
• 6:43
  chapter.
• 6:44
  When
• 6:44
  you're
• 6:44
  on
• 6:45
  those
• 6:45
  steps
• 6:46
  in
• 6:46
  Ithaca
• 6:47
  and
• 6:47
  thinking
• 6:48
  about
• 6:48
  that
• 6:49
  dog,
• 6:49
  I
• 6:50
  would
• 6:50
  love
• 6:50
  it
• 6:50
  if
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  would
• 6:51
  tell
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  story
• 6:52
  about
• 6:53
  what
• 6:53
  Odysseus
• 6:54
  has
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  do
• 6:55
  when
• 6:55
  he
• 6:56
  sees
• 6:56
  his
• 6:56
  dog,
• 6:57
  because
• 6:57
  it's
• 6:57
  actually
• 6:57
  quite
• 6:58
  moving.
• 6:59
  So
• 6:59
  this
• 6:59
  is
• 6:59
  what
• 6:59
  happens.
• 7:00
  Odysseus
• 7:01
  goes
• 7:01
  off
• 7:01
  to
• 7:01
  war,
• 7:02
  reluctantly,
• 7:02
  along
• 7:03
  with
• 7:03
  roughly
• 7:04
  150,000
• 7:05
  Greeks
• 7:07
  because
• 7:07
  their
• 7:07
  pride
• 7:07
  was
• 7:08
  besmirched.
• 7:08
  Helen
• 7:09
  was
• 7:09
  stolen,
• 7:10
  abducted,
• 7:10
  or
• 7:11
  in
• 7:11
  some
• 7:11
  versions
• 7:12
  that
• 7:12
  I
• 7:12
  like,
• 7:12
  she
• 7:13
  actually
• 7:13
  went
• 7:13
  away
• 7:14
  for
• 7:14
  love.
• 7:16
  But
• 7:16
  that
• 7:17
  war
• 7:17
  was
• 7:17
  savage.
• 7:18
  It
• 7:18
  was
• 7:18
  absolute
• 7:19
  savagery.
• 7:20
  10
• 7:21
  years,
• 7:21
  not
• 7:22
  2
• 7:22
  months,
• 7:22
  4
• 7:23
  months,
• 7:23
  a
• 7:24
  6
• 7:24
  month
• 7:24
  stint.
• 7:24
  10
• 7:25
  years.
• 7:26
  And
• 7:26
  because
• 7:26
  of
• 7:26
  that,
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  think
• 7:28
  it's
• 7:28
  also
• 7:28
  our
• 7:29
  first
• 7:29
  tale
• 7:30
  of
• 7:30
  ptsd.
• 7:32
  This
• 7:32
  is
• 7:32
  a
• 7:33
  wounded
• 7:34
  warrior.
• 7:35
  Yes,
• 7:35
  fascinating
• 7:36
  insight.
• 7:37
  He
• 7:38
  is
• 7:38
  deeply
• 7:39
  scarred.
• 7:40
  You
• 7:40
  know
• 7:40
  his
• 7:40
  name
• 7:40
  in
• 7:41
  Latin.
• 7:41
  When
• 7:42
  Virgil
• 7:42
  translated
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  Odyssey
• 7:44
  into
• 7:44
  Latin,
• 7:45
  he
• 7:45
  used
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  word
• 7:46
  Ulysses,
• 7:46
  which
• 7:47
  in
• 7:47
  Italian
• 7:47
  means
• 7:48
  healed
• 7:49
  scar.
• 7:50
  So
• 7:50
  what
• 7:50
  that
• 7:51
  signals
• 7:52
  is
• 7:52
  that
• 7:52
  Odysseus
• 7:53
  is
• 7:53
  the
• 7:53
  first
• 7:53
  and
• 7:54
  still
• 7:55
  one
• 7:55
  of
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  few
• 7:56
  heroes
• 7:57
  in
• 7:57
  all
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  literature
• 7:58
  who
• 7:59
  heals
• 7:59
  himself.
• 8:00
  He
• 8:01
  doesn't
• 8:01
  wait
• 8:01
  for
• 8:01
  a
• 8:02
  miracle.
• 8:02
  He
• 8:02
  doesn't
• 8:03
  wait
• 8:03
  for
• 8:03
  a
• 8:03
  million
• 8:04
  dollars
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  be
• 8:04
  dumped
• 8:04
  into
• 8:05
  his
• 8:05
  bank
• 8:05
  account.
• 8:06
  He
• 8:06
  doesn't
• 8:06
  wait
• 8:07
  for
• 8:07
  friends.
• 8:08
  He
• 8:08
  heals
• 8:08
  himself.
• 8:09
  For
• 8:09
  me,
• 8:10
  that
• 8:10
  is
• 8:10
  one
• 8:10
  of
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  entry
• 8:11
  points.
• 8:12
  And
• 8:12
  this
• 8:12
  is
• 8:13
  doubly
• 8:13
  revealed
• 8:14
  when
• 8:14
  he
• 8:14
  finally
• 8:15
  gets
• 8:15
  home
• 8:15
  after
• 8:16
  20
• 8:16
  years.
• 8:17
  He
• 8:17
  has
• 8:17
  to
• 8:17
  go
• 8:18
  into
• 8:18
  disguise.
• 8:18
  The
• 8:19
  goddess
• 8:19
  Athena
• 8:19
  knows
• 8:20
  he
• 8:20
  will
• 8:20
  be
• 8:20
  killed
• 8:21
  if
• 8:21
  he
• 8:21
  is
• 8:21
  recognized
• 8:22
  too
• 8:22
  quickly
• 8:23
  at
• 8:24
  his
• 8:24
  home
• 8:24
  in
• 8:24
  Ithaca.
• 8:25
  So.
• 8:25
  So
• 8:25
  the
• 8:26
  beautiful
• 8:26
  phrase
• 8:26
  is
• 8:27
  Athena
• 8:27
  drifts
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  mist
• 8:29
  upon
• 8:30
  him.
• 8:31
  The
• 8:31
  language
• 8:32
  is
• 8:32
  so
• 8:32
  glorious,
• 8:33
  Drifts
• 8:34
  amiss.
• 8:35
  So
• 8:35
  he
• 8:36
  walks.
• 8:36
  Odysseus
• 8:37
  and
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  shepherd
• 8:38
  walk
• 8:38
  up
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  citadel,
• 8:40
  to
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  palace
• 8:41
  in
• 8:41
  a
• 8:41
  disguise.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:42
  there,
• 8:43
  at
• 8:43
  the
• 8:43
  steps
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  staircase
• 8:45
  where
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  was
• 8:46
  several
• 8:46
  years
• 8:46
  ago,
• 8:47
  he
• 8:47
  finds
• 8:48
  his
• 8:48
  dog,
• 8:48
  Argus,
• 8:49
  his
• 8:49
  hunting
• 8:50
  dog,
• 8:50
  which
• 8:51
  he.
• 8:51
  He
• 8:51
  was
• 8:52
  given
• 8:52
  as
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  boy.
• 8:53
  So
• 8:54
  the
• 8:54
  tenderness
• 8:54
  here
• 8:55
  is
• 8:55
  extraordinary
• 8:56
  for
• 8:56
  a
• 8:56
  heroic
• 8:57
  story.
• 8:58
  And
• 8:58
  the
• 8:58
  dog
• 8:59
  has
• 8:59
  been
• 8:59
  waiting
• 9:00
  for
• 9:00
  him
• 9:00
  out
• 9:00
  of
• 9:01
  sheer
• 9:01
  devotion.
• 9:02
  So
• 9:02
  this
• 9:02
  is
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  double,
• 9:03
  triple
• 9:04
  symbol
• 9:04
  of
• 9:04
  the
• 9:05
  devotion
• 9:05
  that
• 9:06
  draws
• 9:07
  him
• 9:07
  home
• 9:08
  again.
• 9:08
  Remember
• 9:09
  the
• 9:09
  original
• 9:10
  title
• 9:10
  for
• 9:10
  the
• 9:10
  Odyssey
• 9:11
  was
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  return.
• 9:12
  Because
• 9:13
  in
• 9:13
  antiquity,
• 9:14
  travelers,
• 9:14
  philosophers,
• 9:15
  warriors,
• 9:16
  sailors
• 9:17
  would
• 9:17
  go
• 9:17
  and
• 9:17
  most
• 9:18
  of
• 9:18
  them
• 9:18
  never
• 9:19
  came
• 9:19
  home
• 9:19
  again.
• 9:20
  Listeners
• 9:20
  have
• 9:20
  to
• 9:21
  keep
• 9:21
  this
• 9:21
  in
• 9:21
  mind.
• 9:22
  Until
• 9:22
  the
• 9:22
  19th
• 9:23
  century,
• 9:23
  roughly
• 9:24
  half
• 9:24
  of
• 9:24
  the
• 9:25
  people
• 9:25
  who
• 9:25
  left
• 9:25
  home,
• 9:25
  Pauline.
• 9:26
  Never
• 9:26
  returned.
• 9:30
  Those
• 9:30
  that
• 9:31
  did
• 9:31
  were
• 9:31
  asked,
• 9:32
  so
• 9:32
  what
• 9:32
  did
• 9:32
  you
• 9:32
  see
• 9:32
  out
• 9:33
  there,
• 9:33
  Pauline?
• 9:33
  What
• 9:33
  was
• 9:34
  it
• 9:34
  like
• 9:34
  in
• 9:34
  Africa?
• 9:34
  Hey,
• 9:35
  Phil.
• 9:35
  What
• 9:35
  was
• 9:35
  it
• 9:35
  like
• 9:35
  in
• 9:36
  Asia?
• 9:36
  And
• 9:36
  the
• 9:37
  return
• 9:37
  stories
• 9:38
  are
• 9:39
  at
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  core
• 9:40
  of
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  Odyssey.
• 9:42
  So
• 9:42
  this
• 9:42
  warrior
• 9:43
  has
• 9:43
  been
• 9:43
  gone
• 9:43
  for
• 9:44
  20
• 9:44
  years
• 9:45
  in
• 9:45
  disguise.
• 9:46
  And
• 9:47
  here's
• 9:47
  now
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  beauty.
• 9:48
  But
• 9:48
  the
• 9:48
  dog,
• 9:49
  in
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  sense,
• 9:50
  symbolizing
• 9:51
  our
• 9:51
  instinctual
• 9:52
  self,
• 9:53
  I
• 9:53
  think
• 9:54
  smells
• 9:54
  him,
• 9:55
  sniffs
• 9:56
  him,
• 9:56
  sees
• 9:57
  who
• 9:57
  Odysseus
• 9:58
  is
• 9:59
  through
• 9:59
  the
• 9:59
  disguise,
• 10:00
  through
• 10:00
  the
• 10:01
  dirt
• 10:01
  accumulated
• 10:02
  over
• 10:03
  20
• 10:03
  years,
• 10:04
  right?
• 10:04
  And
• 10:05
  now
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  deep,
• 10:06
  deep
• 10:06
  test,
• 10:07
  which
• 10:07
  I
• 10:07
  think
• 10:07
  we
• 10:08
  all
• 10:08
  have
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  go
• 10:08
  through.
• 10:09
  When
• 10:09
  we've
• 10:09
  been
• 10:09
  on
• 10:09
  a
• 10:10
  long
• 10:10
  trip,
• 10:10
  we
• 10:10
  come
• 10:10
  home.
• 10:11
  Does
• 10:11
  our
• 10:11
  husband
• 10:12
  recognize
• 10:12
  us?
• 10:13
  Does
• 10:13
  our
• 10:13
  wife
• 10:14
  life?
• 10:14
  How
• 10:14
  have
• 10:15
  we
• 10:15
  changed?
• 10:15
  We
• 10:16
  often
• 10:16
  feel
• 10:17
  completely
• 10:17
  different
• 10:18
  after
• 10:18
  a
• 10:18
  wonderful
• 10:19
  journey,
• 10:19
  right?
• 10:20
  My
• 10:20
  definition
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  Odyssey,
• 10:21
  by
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  way.
• 10:22
  The
• 10:22
  journey
• 10:23
  that
• 10:23
  changes
• 10:24
  everything.
• 10:25
  Very
• 10:26
  different
• 10:26
  from
• 10:26
  an
• 10:27
  ordinary
• 10:27
  trip
• 10:28
  or
• 10:28
  a
• 10:28
  journey.
• 10:29
  So
• 10:29
  Odysseus
• 10:30
  is
• 10:30
  nearing,
• 10:31
  he's
• 10:31
  only
• 10:31
  a
• 10:31
  few
• 10:32
  yards
• 10:32
  away
• 10:33
  from
• 10:33
  the
• 10:33
  palace.
• 10:34
  But
• 10:34
  if
• 10:34
  he
• 10:35
  bends
• 10:35
  down
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  embraces
• 10:37
  this
• 10:37
  dog
• 10:38
  that
• 10:38
  he
• 10:38
  loves,
• 10:39
  this,
• 10:39
  that.
• 10:39
  Is
• 10:40
  on
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  verge
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  death,
• 10:41
  right?
• 10:41
  The
• 10:42
  dog
• 10:42
  is
• 10:42
  clearly
• 10:43
  dying.
• 10:44
  It's
• 10:44
  been
• 10:45
  kicked
• 10:45
  out
• 10:45
  of
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  palace,
• 10:46
  which
• 10:46
  again
• 10:47
  is
• 10:47
  a
• 10:47
  symbol
• 10:47
  of
• 10:48
  the
• 10:48
  horror
• 10:48
  of
• 10:48
  the
• 10:49
  occupation
• 10:49
  of
• 10:49
  the
• 10:50
  palace.
• 10:50
  If
• 10:51
  Odysseus
• 10:52
  bends
• 10:52
  down
• 10:52
  and
• 10:53
  embraces
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  dog,
• 10:54
  he
• 10:54
  will
• 10:54
  immediately
• 10:55
  be
• 10:55
  recognized
• 10:56
  and
• 10:56
  killed.
• 10:57
  So
• 10:57
  he
• 10:58
  has
• 10:58
  to
• 10:58
  think
• 10:58
  about
• 10:58
  his
• 10:59
  wife
• 10:59
  Penelope,
• 11:00
  his
• 11:00
  son
• 11:00
  Telemachus,
• 11:01
  those
• 11:02
  who
• 11:02
  have
• 11:02
  been
• 11:02
  loyal
• 11:03
  to
• 11:03
  him.
• 11:03
  And
• 11:04
  now
• 11:04
  here's
• 11:05
  a
• 11:05
  beautiful
• 11:05
  thing.
• 11:06
  It's
• 11:06
  a
• 11:06
  great
• 11:06
  Greek
• 11:07
  word,
• 11:07
  we
• 11:07
  should
• 11:07
  bring
• 11:08
  it
• 11:08
  back.
• 11:08
  I
• 11:09
  think
• 11:09
  it's
• 11:09
  at
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  heart
• 11:09
  of
• 11:10
  great
• 11:10
  reporting,
• 11:11
  great
• 11:12
  filmmaking,
• 11:13
  great
• 11:13
  traveling.
• 11:14
  It's
• 11:14
  called
• 11:15
  sophrosyne.
• 11:16
  It's
• 11:17
  a
• 11:17
  beautiful
• 11:17
  word.
• 11:18
  And
• 11:18
  what
• 11:18
  it
• 11:19
  means
• 11:19
  is
• 11:19
  it
• 11:20
  refers
• 11:20
  to
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  capacity
• 11:21
  to
• 11:22
  stay
• 11:23
  calm,
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  really
• 11:26
  observe
• 11:26
  with
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  eyes
• 11:27
  and
• 11:28
  with
• 11:28
  the
• 11:28
  heart.
• 11:29
  And
• 11:29
  that
• 11:29
  is
• 11:29
  the
• 11:30
  quality
• 11:30
  that
• 11:31
  Odysseus
• 11:32
  was
• 11:32
  prized
• 11:32
  for
• 11:33
  throughout
• 11:34
  antiquity,
• 11:34
  roughly
• 11:35
  for
• 11:35
  3,000
• 11:36
  years.
• 11:36
  I
• 11:37
  think
• 11:37
  we
• 11:37
  prize
• 11:38
  that
• 11:38
  today
• 11:38
  with
• 11:38
  actors
• 11:39
  and
• 11:39
  actresses,
• 11:40
  with
• 11:40
  athletes,
• 11:41
  with
• 11:41
  politicians.
• 11:42
  Can
• 11:42
  you
• 11:43
  stay
• 11:43
  cool
• 11:44
  headed
• 11:44
  in
• 11:44
  a
• 11:44
  world
• 11:45
  that's
• 11:45
  hot
• 11:46
  headed?
• 11:47
  So
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  begin
• 11:48
  my
• 11:48
  book
• 11:48
  with
• 11:49
  the
• 11:49
  wisdom
• 11:50
  right
• 11:50
  there.
• 11:50
  There's
• 11:51
  one
• 11:51
  of
• 11:51
  life's
• 11:51
  lessons.
• 11:52
  Don't
• 11:52
  be
• 11:52
  a
• 11:52
  hothead,
• 11:54
  be
• 11:54
  a
• 11:54
  cool
• 11:55
  head
• 11:55
  and
• 11:55
  watch
• 11:56
  and
• 11:57
  smell.
• 11:58
  But
• 11:58
  I
• 11:58
  like
• 11:59
  to
• 11:59
  think
• 11:59
  of
• 11:59
  writing
• 11:59
  as
• 12:00
  using
• 12:00
  all
• 12:00
  five
• 12:00
  senses
• 12:02
  in
• 12:02
  every
• 12:03
  chapter,
• 12:03
  in
• 12:04
  every
• 12:04
  book.
• 12:05
  And
• 12:05
  Homer
• 12:06
  does
• 12:06
  this
• 12:06
  in
• 12:07
  every
• 12:07
  scene,
• 12:08
  all
• 12:08
  five
• 12:08
  senses
• 12:09
  are
• 12:09
  addressed,
• 12:10
  which
• 12:10
  makes
• 12:10
  it
• 12:11
  for
• 12:11
  me,
• 12:11
  arguably
• 12:12
  the
• 12:12
  world's
• 12:13
  first
• 12:14
  travel
• 12:14
  book.
• 12:15
  Well,
• 12:16
  yes,
• 12:16
  I
• 12:16
  mean,
• 12:16
  it's
• 12:17
  all
• 12:17
  about
• 12:17
  a
• 12:17
  journey.
• 12:17
  But
• 12:18
  just
• 12:18
  back
• 12:18
  to
• 12:18
  the
• 12:18
  dog
• 12:19
  briefly.
• 12:20
  He
• 12:20
  passes
• 12:21
  the
• 12:21
  dog
• 12:21
  by.
• 12:22
  He
• 12:22
  does
• 12:23
  not
• 12:23
  acknowledge
• 12:24
  the
• 12:24
  poor
• 12:24
  dog.
• 12:24
  It's
• 12:25
  just
• 12:25
  heartbreaking
• 12:26
  because
• 12:27
  he
• 12:27
  knows
• 12:27
  he
• 12:28
  has
• 12:28
  to.
• 12:29
  He
• 12:29
  has
• 12:29
  to
• 12:29
  steel
• 12:30
  himself,
• 12:30
  he
• 12:30
  has
• 12:31
  to
• 12:31
  be
• 12:31
  calm
• 12:31
  and
• 12:32
  walk
• 12:32
  by.
• 12:33
  Right.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  for
• 12:34
  those
• 12:35
  of
• 12:35
  us
• 12:35
  who
• 12:35
  love
• 12:35
  dogs,
• 12:36
  including
• 12:36
  mine,
• 12:37
  I
• 12:37
  thank
• 12:37
  my
• 12:38
  dog,
• 12:38
  which
• 12:38
  was
• 12:38
  at
• 12:38
  my
• 12:39
  side
• 12:39
  writing
• 12:39
  this
• 12:40
  entire
• 12:40
  book.
• 12:40
  Thank
• 12:41
  you,
• 12:41
  Stella.
• 12:42
  The
• 12:42
  dogs
• 12:43
  have
• 12:43
  this
• 12:44
  preternatural
• 12:45
  instinct
• 12:46
  about
• 12:47
  our
• 12:47
  deeper
• 12:48
  self,
• 12:48
  our
• 12:48
  deeper
• 12:48
  senses.
• 12:49
  They
• 12:49
  know
• 12:50
  when
• 12:51
  we're
• 12:51
  sad,
• 12:51
  they
• 12:52
  know
• 12:52
  when
• 12:52
  we're
• 12:52
  exultant,
• 12:53
  they
• 12:53
  know
• 12:54
  when
• 12:54
  they're
• 12:54
  in
• 12:54
  pain.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  think
• 12:55
  they
• 12:56
  know
• 12:56
  when
• 12:57
  how
• 12:57
  to
• 12:57
  forgive
• 12:58
  their
• 12:58
  masters,
• 12:59
  the
• 13:00
  people
• 13:00
  all
• 13:00
  around
• 13:01
  them.
• 13:01
  Homer
• 13:02
  is
• 13:02
  signaling
• 13:03
  this.
• 13:03
  This
• 13:03
  is
• 13:04
  a
• 13:04
  dog
• 13:04
  who
• 13:04
  knows
• 13:05
  what's
• 13:05
  at
• 13:06
  stake.
• 13:06
  Argus
• 13:07
  stands
• 13:08
  in
• 13:08
  for,
• 13:09
  I
• 13:09
  think,
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  greater
• 13:11
  wisdom
• 13:11
  of
• 13:11
  the
• 13:12
  Odyssey.
• 13:12
  What's
• 13:13
  the
• 13:13
  greater
• 13:13
  picture?
• 13:14
  Remember,
• 13:15
  there's
• 13:15
  a
• 13:15
  tremendous
• 13:16
  amount
• 13:16
  of
• 13:16
  pressure
• 13:17
  on
• 13:17
  Odysseus
• 13:18
  and
• 13:18
  the
• 13:19
  character
• 13:19
  Zen,
• 13:19
  because
• 13:20
  if
• 13:20
  you
• 13:20
  remember
• 13:20
  in
• 13:20
  the
• 13:20
  Iliad,
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  main
• 13:22
  quality
• 13:22
  that
• 13:23
  Achilles
• 13:23
  embodies
• 13:25
  is
• 13:25
  this
• 13:25
  desire,
• 13:27
  and
• 13:27
  this
• 13:27
  has
• 13:27
  not
• 13:27
  gone
• 13:27
  away.
• 13:28
  It's
• 13:28
  the
• 13:29
  desire
• 13:29
  for
• 13:29
  what
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  Greece
• 13:30
  called
• 13:30
  Cleos
• 13:31
  K
• 13:31
  L
• 13:31
  E
• 13:32
  O
• 13:32
  S
• 13:32
  glory
• 13:33
  or
• 13:33
  fame.
• 13:35
  You
• 13:35
  will
• 13:35
  do
• 13:35
  anything
• 13:36
  to
• 13:36
  achieve
• 13:36
  glory
• 13:37
  or
• 13:37
  fame.
• 13:38
  Sounds
• 13:38
  familiar,
• 13:38
  doesn't
• 13:39
  it?
• 13:39
  But
• 13:40
  with
• 13:40
  the
• 13:40
  Odyssey,
• 13:41
  what
• 13:41
  I
• 13:42
  see
• 13:42
  is
• 13:43
  Homer
• 13:44
  probably,
• 13:45
  probably
• 13:45
  writing
• 13:45
  this
• 13:46
  one,
• 13:46
  or
• 13:46
  the
• 13:46
  poet
• 13:47
  known
• 13:47
  as
• 13:47
  Homer
• 13:48
  writing
• 13:49
  this.
• 13:49
  In
• 13:49
  late
• 13:49
  life,
• 13:50
  when
• 13:50
  you
• 13:51
  have
• 13:51
  to
• 13:51
  let
• 13:51
  go
• 13:52
  of
• 13:52
  this
• 13:53
  adolescent
• 13:54
  desire
• 13:54
  to
• 13:55
  constantly
• 13:56
  be
• 13:56
  heroic,
• 13:58
  to
• 13:58
  constantly
• 13:59
  seek
• 14:00
  fame,
• 14:00
  glory,
• 14:02
  recognition,
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  approval
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  everybody
• 14:05
  around.
• 14:05
  Odysseus
• 14:06
  returns
• 14:07
  home
• 14:08
  sobered
• 14:08
  by
• 14:09
  life
• 14:10
  itself.
• 14:11
  And
• 14:11
  I'm
• 14:11
  arguing,
• 14:12
  and
• 14:12
  this
• 14:12
  to
• 14:12
  me
• 14:12
  is
• 14:13
  so
• 14:13
  gorgeous,
• 14:14
  if
• 14:14
  anybody
• 14:15
  has
• 14:15
  a
• 14:15
  romantic
• 14:16
  bone
• 14:16
  in
• 14:17
  their
• 14:17
  body.
• 14:18
  What
• 14:18
  I
• 14:18
  think
• 14:18
  is
• 14:19
  happening
• 14:19
  is
• 14:19
  he's
• 14:20
  returning.
• 14:21
  Odysseus
• 14:22
  is
• 14:22
  pulled
• 14:23
  back,
• 14:24
  not
• 14:24
  out
• 14:24
  of
• 14:24
  pride,
• 14:25
  desire
• 14:25
  for
• 14:26
  fame
• 14:26
  and
• 14:26
  glory,
• 14:26
  but
• 14:27
  by
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  love
• 14:28
  of
• 14:28
  Penelope,
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  love
• 14:29
  of
• 14:30
  his
• 14:30
  unmet
• 14:31
  son,
• 14:31
  and
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  love
• 14:32
  of
• 14:32
  land
• 14:33
  in
• 14:33
  some
• 14:34
  ways.
• 14:34
  And
• 14:34
  I
• 14:34
  know
• 14:34
  Thoreau
• 14:35
  loved
• 14:35
  the
• 14:36
  Odyssey,
• 14:36
  he
• 14:36
  loved
• 14:36
  Homer.
• 14:37
  I
• 14:37
  think
• 14:37
  there
• 14:38
  is
• 14:38
  a
• 14:38
  Waldian
• 14:39
  theme
• 14:40
  in
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  Odyssey
• 14:41
  because
• 14:41
  in
• 14:42
  every
• 14:42
  one
• 14:42
  of
• 14:42
  the
• 14:43
  24
• 14:43
  books,
• 14:44
  Homer
• 14:44
  will
• 14:44
  cut
• 14:44
  away.
• 14:45
  And
• 14:45
  he
• 14:45
  described
• 14:46
  landscape,
• 14:47
  the
• 14:48
  smell
• 14:48
  of
• 14:48
  the
• 14:48
  orchards,
• 14:49
  the
• 14:50
  smell
• 14:50
  of
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  sea
• 14:51
  so
• 14:51
  beautifully.
• 14:52
  Now
• 14:53
  he
• 14:53
  doesn't
• 14:53
  have
• 14:53
  to,
• 14:54
  because
• 14:54
  it's
• 14:54
  kind
• 14:54
  of
• 14:54
  an
• 14:55
  action
• 14:55
  book.
• 14:56
  This
• 14:56
  is
• 14:56
  a
• 14:56
  great
• 14:57
  book
• 14:57
  to
• 14:57
  read
• 14:58
  if
• 14:58
  you
• 14:58
  are
• 14:58
  aspiring
• 14:59
  to
• 14:59
  be
• 14:59
  a
• 14:59
  travel
• 14:59
  writer.
• 15:00
  Absolutely
• 15:01
  emotional,
• 15:02
  it's
• 15:02
  spiritual,
• 15:03
  it's
• 15:03
  psychological,
• 15:05
  and
• 15:05
  it
• 15:05
  pays
• 15:06
  attention
• 15:06
  to
• 15:07
  landscape
• 15:08
  and
• 15:08
  it.
• 15:08
  Also
• 15:08
  speaks
• 15:09
  to
• 15:09
  the
• 15:09
  importance
• 15:10
  of
• 15:11
  travel.
• 15:11
  There's
• 15:11
  a
• 15:12
  part
• 15:12
  in
• 15:12
  your
• 15:12
  book
• 15:12
  where
• 15:13
  you
• 15:13
  talk
• 15:13
  about
• 15:14
  it's
• 15:14
  not
• 15:14
  just
• 15:14
  Odysseus
• 15:15
  journey.
• 15:16
  His
• 15:16
  son
• 15:16
  Telemachus
• 15:17
  is
• 15:18
  making
• 15:18
  a
• 15:18
  parallel
• 15:19
  journey.
• 15:21
  And
• 15:21
  you
• 15:21
  write,
• 15:22
  ostensibly,
• 15:24
  he,
• 15:25
  Telemachus
• 15:26
  leaves
• 15:27
  in
• 15:27
  search
• 15:27
  of
• 15:27
  validation
• 15:28
  of
• 15:28
  himself
• 15:29
  as
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  son
• 15:29
  of
• 15:30
  a
• 15:30
  hero,
• 15:30
  but
• 15:31
  also
• 15:31
  for
• 15:32
  proof
• 15:32
  of
• 15:32
  the
• 15:33
  sacred
• 15:33
  side
• 15:35
  of
• 15:35
  existence.
• 15:36
  And
• 15:37
  so
• 15:37
  to
• 15:37
  me,
• 15:38
  that's
• 15:38
  why
• 15:38
  we
• 15:39
  travel,
• 15:39
  is
• 15:40
  to
• 15:40
  see
• 15:40
  the
• 15:41
  sacred
• 15:41
  side
• 15:42
  of
• 15:42
  existence,
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  see
• 15:43
  that
• 15:44
  there
• 15:44
  are
• 15:44
  places
• 15:44
  that
• 15:45
  are
• 15:45
  different
• 15:46
  and
• 15:46
  yet
• 15:46
  wonderfully
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  same
• 15:48
  as
• 15:48
  where
• 15:48
  we
• 15:49
  came
• 15:49
  from,
• 15:49
  and
• 15:49
  that
• 15:50
  there
• 15:50
  are
• 15:50
  people
• 15:51
  who
• 15:51
  have
• 15:51
  different
• 15:52
  languages
• 15:52
  and
• 15:52
  different
• 15:53
  dress
• 15:53
  and
• 15:54
  different
• 15:54
  foods,
• 15:55
  and
• 15:55
  yet
• 15:55
  they
• 15:55
  are
• 15:56
  our
• 15:56
  brothers
• 15:56
  and
• 15:56
  sisters.
• 15:58
  There's
• 15:58
  something
• 15:59
  very
• 15:59
  profound
• 16:00
  about
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  Odyssey,
• 16:01
  which,
• 16:01
  because
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  my
• 16:02
  education,
• 16:02
  I
• 16:02
  was
• 16:03
  forced
• 16:03
  to
• 16:03
  read
• 16:03
  it
• 16:03
  three
• 16:04
  times.
• 16:04
  And
• 16:04
  I
• 16:05
  grew
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  love
• 16:05
  it,
• 16:05
  I
• 16:06
  gotta
• 16:06
  say.
• 16:07
  Whoa,
• 16:07
  that's
• 16:08
  so
• 16:08
  beautifully
• 16:09
  rendered.
• 16:09
  Thank
• 16:09
  you.
• 16:10
  Thank
• 16:10
  you
• 16:10
  for
• 16:10
  that.
• 16:11
  Again,
• 16:12
  the
• 16:12
  image
• 16:12
  of
• 16:12
  the
• 16:13
  centaur
• 16:13
  aspect
• 16:14
  of
• 16:14
  this.
• 16:14
  So
• 16:14
  we
• 16:15
  know
• 16:16
  that
• 16:16
  people
• 16:16
  have
• 16:17
  been
• 16:17
  walking
• 16:17
  or
• 16:18
  sailing
• 16:18
  or
• 16:19
  riding
• 16:19
  in
• 16:19
  the
• 16:20
  back
• 16:20
  of
• 16:20
  watermelon
• 16:21
  carts,
• 16:21
  riding
• 16:22
  on
• 16:22
  horses
• 16:23
  for.
• 16:24
  Since
• 16:24
  Homer,
• 16:25
  in
• 16:25
  roughly
• 16:25
  the
• 16:26
  8th
• 16:26
  century.
• 16:27
  And
• 16:27
  it's
• 16:27
  half
• 16:27
  because
• 16:29
  half
• 16:29
  of
• 16:29
  the
• 16:30
  book
• 16:30
  is
• 16:31
  recognizable.
• 16:32
  There
• 16:32
  was
• 16:33
  and
• 16:33
  is
• 16:33
  a
• 16:34
  Mycenae,
• 16:34
  which
• 16:35
  we
• 16:35
  can
• 16:35
  still
• 16:35
  visit
• 16:36
  today
• 16:36
  and
• 16:37
  learn
• 16:37
  part
• 16:37
  of
• 16:38
  the
• 16:38
  story
• 16:38
  of
• 16:38
  Agamemnon
• 16:39
  and
• 16:39
  Clytemnestor.
• 16:40
  It's
• 16:40
  a
• 16:40
  gorgeous
• 16:41
  citadel
• 16:42
  high
• 16:42
  above
• 16:43
  the
• 16:43
  fields.
• 16:44
  Sparta
• 16:44
  is
• 16:44
  still
• 16:45
  there.
• 16:46
  One
• 16:46
  of
• 16:46
  my
• 16:46
  favorite
• 16:47
  sites,
• 16:47
  for
• 16:47
  those
• 16:47
  of
• 16:48
  you
• 16:48
  who
• 16:48
  would
• 16:48
  like
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  go
• 16:49
  someplace
• 16:49
  unusual,
• 16:50
  is
• 16:50
  it's
• 16:51
  called
• 16:51
  the
• 16:51
  Necromantion.
• 16:52
  It's
• 16:52
  the
• 16:52
  Temple
• 16:53
  of
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  Dead.
• 16:53
  Why?
• 16:54
  Because
• 16:54
  one
• 16:55
  of
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  most
• 16:55
  important
• 16:55
  issues
• 16:56
  here
• 16:56
  is
• 16:56
  when
• 16:57
  Circe,
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  great
• 16:58
  sorceress,
• 16:59
  after
• 17:00
  spending
• 17:00
  a
• 17:00
  year
• 17:01
  loving
• 17:01
  up
• 17:01
  to
• 17:02
  Odysseus,
• 17:03
  says,
• 17:03
  you've
• 17:04
  got
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  get
• 17:04
  back,
• 17:04
  but
• 17:05
  you
• 17:05
  can't
• 17:06
  do
• 17:06
  this
• 17:06
  alone.
• 17:07
  A
• 17:07
  good
• 17:08
  message
• 17:08
  for
• 17:09
  travelers,
• 17:10
  right?
• 17:10
  He
• 17:11
  said,
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  have
• 17:11
  to
• 17:11
  go
• 17:12
  to
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  underworld.
• 17:13
  There
• 17:13
  is
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  character
• 17:14
  there,
• 17:14
  a
• 17:14
  seer
• 17:15
  named
• 17:15
  Tiresias,
• 17:16
  who
• 17:16
  will
• 17:17
  send
• 17:17
  you
• 17:18
  home.
• 17:18
  He
• 17:18
  will
• 17:19
  finally
• 17:19
  show
• 17:19
  you
• 17:19
  the
• 17:20
  way
• 17:20
  home.
• 17:20
  So
• 17:20
  Odysseus,
• 17:21
  and
• 17:21
  this
• 17:21
  is
• 17:22
  early
• 17:22
  depth
• 17:23
  psychology,
• 17:24
  is
• 17:24
  saying
• 17:24
  he's
• 17:25
  still
• 17:25
  in
• 17:25
  his
• 17:25
  ego.
• 17:26
  He's
• 17:26
  still
• 17:26
  a
• 17:27
  man
• 17:27
  of
• 17:27
  vanity,
• 17:28
  like
• 17:28
  most
• 17:29
  soldiers
• 17:29
  would
• 17:29
  be
• 17:30
  after
• 17:30
  a
• 17:30
  tremendous
• 17:31
  war.
• 17:31
  So
• 17:31
  he
• 17:31
  has
• 17:32
  to
• 17:32
  descend
• 17:32
  into
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  underworld
• 17:33
  to
• 17:34
  have
• 17:34
  a
• 17:34
  discussion
• 17:35
  with
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  seer,
• 17:36
  who
• 17:36
  will
• 17:36
  help
• 17:37
  him
• 17:37
  finally
• 17:37
  get
• 17:37
  back
• 17:37
  to
• 17:37
  Ithaca.
• 17:39
  That
• 17:39
  site
• 17:40
  is
• 17:40
  on
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  river
• 17:41
  Acheron.
• 17:42
  And
• 17:42
  around
• 17:43
  it
• 17:44
  accumulated
• 17:45
  this
• 17:46
  almost
• 17:46
  incomprehensibly
• 17:48
  mysterious
• 17:49
  site
• 17:49
  called
• 17:49
  the
• 17:50
  Necromantion,
• 17:51
  where
• 17:51
  people
• 17:51
  went.
• 17:52
  The
• 17:52
  Greeks
• 17:53
  went
• 17:53
  there.
• 17:54
  So
• 17:54
  this
• 17:54
  is
• 17:55
  a
• 17:55
  real
• 17:55
  site.
• 17:56
  A
• 17:56
  real
• 17:56
  site
• 17:56
  that
• 17:57
  I.
• 17:57
  It's
• 17:57
  on
• 17:57
  the
• 17:57
  west
• 17:58
  coast
• 17:58
  of.
• 17:59
  Of
• 17:59
  Greece,
• 18:00
  on
• 18:00
  the
• 18:00
  river
• 18:01
  Acheron.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:02
  it
• 18:02
  was
• 18:02
  used,
• 18:03
  you
• 18:03
  know,
• 18:03
  the
• 18:03
  great
• 18:03
  phrase.
• 18:04
  You
• 18:04
  were
• 18:04
  in
• 18:04
  theater.
• 18:04
  You
• 18:05
  know
• 18:05
  this
• 18:05
  phrase,
• 18:05
  the
• 18:05
  Deus
• 18:06
  ex
• 18:06
  machina.
• 18:07
  It's
• 18:08
  when
• 18:08
  the
• 18:08
  God
• 18:09
  of
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  goddess
• 18:10
  usually
• 18:10
  comes
• 18:10
  down
• 18:11
  from
• 18:11
  the
• 18:11
  sky
• 18:12
  and
• 18:12
  saves
• 18:12
  the
• 18:13
  day.
• 18:13
  Right.
• 18:14
  Well,
• 18:14
  these
• 18:15
  were
• 18:15
  also
• 18:15
  mechanisms
• 18:16
  in
• 18:16
  Greek
• 18:17
  theater.
• 18:17
  So
• 18:17
  if
• 18:17
  you
• 18:18
  go
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  theater,
• 18:19
  let's
• 18:19
  say
• 18:19
  the
• 18:20
  Herod
• 18:20
  Atticus
• 18:21
  in
• 18:21
  Athens,
• 18:21
  you
• 18:22
  can
• 18:22
  see
• 18:22
  where
• 18:22
  they
• 18:22
  had
• 18:23
  the
• 18:23
  machinery
• 18:23
  that
• 18:24
  dropped
• 18:24
  gods
• 18:24
  and
• 18:25
  goddesses
• 18:25
  from
• 18:25
  the
• 18:25
  sky.
• 18:26
  There
• 18:26
  was
• 18:26
  one
• 18:27
  at
• 18:27
  the
• 18:27
  necromantion
• 18:28
  and
• 18:28
  what
• 18:28
  it
• 18:29
  did.
• 18:29
  This
• 18:29
  is
• 18:30
  flabbergasting
• 18:31
  to
• 18:31
  me.
• 18:31
  Let's
• 18:32
  say
• 18:32
  you
• 18:32
  lost
• 18:33
  a
• 18:34
  wife
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  the
• 18:34
  plague,
• 18:35
  or
• 18:35
  you
• 18:35
  lost
• 18:35
  your
• 18:36
  husband
• 18:36
  at
• 18:36
  war
• 18:37
  against
• 18:37
  Sparta,
• 18:38
  which
• 18:38
  means
• 18:38
  you
• 18:38
  didn't
• 18:39
  get
• 18:39
  to
• 18:39
  say
• 18:39
  goodbye.
• 18:40
  You
• 18:41
  would
• 18:41
  travel,
• 18:41
  often
• 18:42
  thousands
• 18:43
  of
• 18:43
  people
• 18:43
  would
• 18:44
  travel
• 18:44
  to
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  Necromantion,
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  symbolic
• 18:47
  place
• 18:47
  where
• 18:47
  Odysseus
• 18:48
  went
• 18:48
  down
• 18:48
  into
• 18:49
  the
• 18:49
  underworld.
• 18:49
  And
• 18:50
  you
• 18:50
  would
• 18:50
  pay
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  oracle
• 18:51
  there
• 18:51
  a
• 18:51
  little
• 18:52
  bit
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  money
• 18:52
  and
• 18:52
  you
• 18:53
  would
• 18:53
  say,
• 18:53
  I
• 18:54
  need
• 18:54
  closure
• 18:55
  with
• 18:55
  my
• 18:55
  wife.
• 18:55
  I
• 18:56
  need
• 18:56
  closure
• 18:56
  with
• 18:56
  my
• 18:57
  three
• 18:57
  brothers
• 18:57
  who
• 18:58
  died
• 18:58
  in
• 18:58
  the
• 18:58
  Peloponnesian
• 18:59
  Wars.
• 19:00
  She
• 19:00
  would
• 19:00
  create
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  equivalent
• 19:01
  of
• 19:01
  a
• 19:01
  paper
• 19:02
  mache
• 19:02
  model
• 19:03
  of
• 19:03
  your
• 19:03
  loved
• 19:04
  one.
• 19:04
  Your
• 19:05
  parents,
• 19:05
  your
• 19:06
  spouse,
• 19:06
  your
• 19:07
  best
• 19:07
  friend
• 19:07
  who
• 19:08
  died
• 19:08
  in
• 19:08
  war
• 19:08
  you
• 19:08
  didn't
• 19:09
  get
• 19:09
  to
• 19:09
  say
• 19:09
  goodbye
• 19:09
  to,
• 19:10
  and
• 19:10
  you
• 19:10
  would
• 19:11
  be
• 19:11
  able
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  enact
• 19:13
  a
• 19:13
  farewell
• 19:14
  to
• 19:14
  those
• 19:15
  who
• 19:15
  have
• 19:15
  passed
• 19:15
  on.
• 19:17
  What
• 19:17
  do
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  get
• 19:17
  out
• 19:17
  of
• 19:18
  this?
• 19:18
  Why
• 19:18
  is
• 19:18
  this
• 19:18
  important,
• 19:19
  what
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  Greeks
• 19:20
  are
• 19:20
  saying?
• 19:21
  I
• 19:21
  think
• 19:22
  in
• 19:22
  retrospect,
• 19:22
  all
• 19:23
  these
• 19:23
  centuries
• 19:24
  later,
• 19:24
  death
• 19:25
  was
• 19:25
  omnipresent.
• 19:26
  The
• 19:26
  ordinary
• 19:27
  Greek
• 19:27
  in
• 19:27
  these
• 19:27
  years,
• 19:28
  in
• 19:28
  classical
• 19:28
  years,
• 19:29
  only
• 19:29
  had
• 19:30
  a
• 19:30
  lifespan
• 19:30
  of
• 19:30
  about
• 19:31
  35.
• 19:33
  Wow.
• 19:33
  Constant
• 19:34
  warfare,
• 19:35
  constant
• 19:35
  disease
• 19:36
  and
• 19:36
  plague.
• 19:37
  People
• 19:37
  rarely
• 19:38
  got
• 19:38
  a
• 19:38
  chance
• 19:39
  to
• 19:39
  say
• 19:39
  goodbye.
• 19:40
  So
• 19:41
  in
• 19:41
  theater,
• 19:42
  Aeschylus,
• 19:43
  Aristophanes,
• 19:44
  all
• 19:45
  these
• 19:45
  great
• 19:45
  playwrights
• 19:46
  gave
• 19:46
  us
• 19:46
  stories,
• 19:47
  poems
• 19:48
  and
• 19:48
  actual
• 19:48
  rituals
• 19:49
  and
• 19:49
  ceremonies
• 19:50
  in
• 19:50
  order
• 19:51
  to
• 19:51
  deal
• 19:51
  with
• 19:52
  death.
• 19:54
  And
• 19:54
  this
• 19:54
  is
• 19:55
  one
• 19:55
  of
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  big
• 19:56
  parts
• 19:56
  of
• 19:56
  Odysseus.
• 19:57
  When
• 19:57
  he
• 19:57
  returns,
• 19:58
  he's
• 19:58
  last
• 19:59
  man
• 20:00
  standing
• 20:01
  and
• 20:01
  what,
• 20:02
  what
• 20:02
  brings
• 20:03
  him
• 20:03
  home?
• 20:03
  It's
• 20:04
  love.
• 20:04
  The
• 20:05
  Iliad
• 20:05
  and
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  Odyssey,
• 20:07
  I
• 20:07
  believe,
• 20:07
  are
• 20:07
  the
• 20:08
  ancient
• 20:08
  Greek
• 20:08
  way
• 20:08
  of
• 20:09
  saying
• 20:09
  love
• 20:10
  and
• 20:10
  war
• 20:11
  are
• 20:11
  inextricably
• 20:12
  connected.
• 20:13
  We
• 20:14
  have
• 20:14
  to
• 20:14
  recognize
• 20:15
  the
• 20:16
  beauty
• 20:16
  of
• 20:17
  both.
• 20:17
  And
• 20:17
  because
• 20:18
  of
• 20:18
  this,
• 20:19
  I
• 20:19
  think,
• 20:20
  arose
• 20:21
  this
• 20:21
  theory
• 20:22
  of
• 20:22
  catharsis.
• 20:24
  Aristotle's
• 20:25
  Bible,
• 20:25
  so
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  speak,
• 20:27
  was
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  Iliad
• 20:28
  and
• 20:28
  the
• 20:28
  Odyssey.
• 20:29
  And
• 20:29
  when
• 20:29
  you
• 20:29
  read
• 20:30
  or
• 20:30
  saw
• 20:30
  them
• 20:30
  performed,
• 20:31
  it
• 20:31
  would
• 20:31
  take
• 20:31
  about
• 20:32
  three
• 20:32
  days
• 20:32
  to
• 20:33
  perform
• 20:33
  both
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  Iliad
• 20:34
  and
• 20:34
  then
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  Odyssey,
• 20:35
  or
• 20:36
  each
• 20:36
  one
• 20:37
  would
• 20:37
  take.
• 20:37
  Because
• 20:37
  let's
• 20:38
  just
• 20:38
  explain
• 20:38
  that,
• 20:39
  let's
• 20:39
  unpack
• 20:39
  that.
• 20:39
  Because
• 20:40
  the
• 20:40
  books
• 20:41
  that
• 20:41
  we
• 20:41
  read
• 20:41
  today
• 20:42
  as
• 20:42
  poetry
• 20:43
  were
• 20:43
  originally
• 20:45
  spoken
• 20:45
  word
• 20:46
  by
• 20:46
  a
• 20:47
  bard
• 20:47
  named
• 20:48
  Homer,
• 20:48
  who
• 20:48
  was
• 20:49
  apparently
• 20:49
  blind.
• 20:51
  And
• 20:51
  eventually
• 20:52
  this
• 20:52
  was
• 20:53
  all
• 20:53
  written
• 20:53
  down.
• 20:54
  Well,
• 20:54
  that's
• 20:55
  a
• 20:55
  magical
• 20:55
  sequence
• 20:56
  to
• 20:56
  me.
• 20:56
  Yes.
• 20:57
  This
• 20:57
  emerges
• 20:58
  from
• 21:00
  several
• 21:00
  centuries
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  people
• 21:02
  telling
• 21:02
  these
• 21:03
  stories.
• 21:03
  So
• 21:03
  roughly
• 21:04
  the
• 21:05
  Trojan
• 21:05
  War
• 21:06
  either
• 21:06
  existed
• 21:07
  or
• 21:07
  something
• 21:08
  like
• 21:08
  it
• 21:08
  happened
• 21:09
  in
• 21:09
  the
• 21:09
  12th
• 21:09
  century
• 21:10
  in
• 21:10
  Greece
• 21:10
  on
• 21:10
  the
• 21:11
  west
• 21:11
  coast
• 21:11
  of
• 21:11
  Turkey,
• 21:12
  in
• 21:12
  a
• 21:12
  place
• 21:12
  you
• 21:13
  can
• 21:13
  still
• 21:13
  go
• 21:13
  to,
• 21:13
  Troy.
• 21:14
  And
• 21:15
  it
• 21:15
  would
• 21:15
  have
• 21:15
  been
• 21:15
  told
• 21:15
  orally
• 21:17
  for
• 21:17
  centuries
• 21:18
  by
• 21:18
  bards,
• 21:19
  traveling
• 21:19
  storytellers,
• 21:20
  going
• 21:21
  palace
• 21:21
  to
• 21:21
  palace,
• 21:22
  village
• 21:23
  to
• 21:23
  village.
• 21:23
  Now,
• 21:24
  this
• 21:24
  is
• 21:24
  a
• 21:24
  miraculous
• 21:25
  sequence.
• 21:25
  Then,
• 21:26
  around
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  time
• 21:27
  of
• 21:27
  Homer,
• 21:28
  the
• 21:29
  Phoenician
• 21:29
  traders
• 21:30
  brought
• 21:31
  the
• 21:31
  first
• 21:32
  Alphabet
• 21:34
  from
• 21:34
  what
• 21:35
  is
• 21:35
  now
• 21:35
  Lebanon.
• 21:36
  Right.
• 21:37
  But
• 21:37
  let
• 21:37
  me
• 21:37
  ask
• 21:37
  you.
• 21:38
  So
• 21:38
  you
• 21:38
  had
• 21:39
  these
• 21:39
  traveling
• 21:40
  bards
• 21:41
  who
• 21:41
  went
• 21:41
  all
• 21:41
  over
• 21:42
  the
• 21:42
  Mediterranean.
• 21:44
  So
• 21:44
  in
• 21:45
  placing
• 21:46
  parts
• 21:46
  of
• 21:46
  Homer's
• 21:47
  journey
• 21:48
  in
• 21:48
  different
• 21:49
  places,
• 21:49
  this
• 21:50
  was
• 21:50
  probably
• 21:50
  based
• 21:51
  on
• 21:51
  their
• 21:52
  own
• 21:52
  experiences
• 21:53
  of
• 21:54
  being
• 21:54
  in
• 21:54
  those
• 21:54
  places.
• 21:55
  Right.
• 21:55
  So
• 21:56
  they
• 21:56
  had
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  historic
• 21:57
  knowledge,
• 21:58
  somewhat
• 21:59
  of
• 21:59
  where
• 22:00
  he
• 22:00
  might
• 22:01
  have
• 22:01
  gone
• 22:01
  if
• 22:02
  he
• 22:02
  was
• 22:03
  an
• 22:03
  actual
• 22:04
  being,
• 22:05
  but
• 22:05
  they
• 22:06
  also
• 22:06
  probably
• 22:07
  filled
• 22:07
  in
• 22:07
  some
• 22:07
  of
• 22:08
  the
• 22:08
  blanks.
• 22:08
  So
• 22:08
  when
• 22:09
  you
• 22:09
  go
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  those
• 22:09
  places
• 22:10
  today,
• 22:11
  how
• 22:11
  do
• 22:11
  you
• 22:11
  know
• 22:12
  you're
• 22:12
  in
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  right
• 22:12
  place?
• 22:15
  That's
• 22:15
  a
• 22:15
  great,
• 22:15
  great
• 22:16
  question.
• 22:17
  Homer
• 22:17
  grew
• 22:17
  up
• 22:17
  on
• 22:17
  the
• 22:18
  west
• 22:18
  coast
• 22:18
  of
• 22:18
  what's
• 22:18
  now
• 22:19
  Turkey
• 22:19
  within
• 22:20
  about
• 22:21
  a
• 22:21
  day's
• 22:21
  horse
• 22:22
  ride
• 22:22
  of
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  ruins
• 22:23
  of
• 22:23
  Troy.
• 22:24
  So
• 22:24
  I'm
• 22:24
  guessing
• 22:25
  that,
• 22:25
  like
• 22:26
  me
• 22:26
  in
• 22:27
  Detroit
• 22:27
  listening
• 22:28
  to
• 22:28
  stories
• 22:28
  about
• 22:29
  Henry
• 22:29
  Ford,
• 22:29
  or
• 22:30
  now
• 22:30
  living
• 22:30
  in
• 22:31
  San
• 22:31
  Francisco,
• 22:31
  stories
• 22:32
  about
• 22:32
  Jack
• 22:32
  Kerouac
• 22:33
  all
• 22:33
  around
• 22:34
  me.
• 22:34
  So
• 22:34
  you're
• 22:35
  listening
• 22:35
  to
• 22:35
  these
• 22:35
  stories,
• 22:35
  and
• 22:36
  at
• 22:36
  some
• 22:36
  point,
• 22:37
  the
• 22:37
  writer,
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  traveler
• 22:39
  in
• 22:39
  us
• 22:40
  says,
• 22:40
  I
• 22:40
  need
• 22:40
  to
• 22:41
  see
• 22:41
  it
• 22:41
  with
• 22:41
  my
• 22:41
  own
• 22:41
  eyes.
• 22:43
  So
• 22:43
  the
• 22:43
  young
• 22:43
  Homer
• 22:44
  would
• 22:44
  have
• 22:44
  gone
• 22:44
  up
• 22:45
  to
• 22:45
  Troy
• 22:45
  and
• 22:46
  visited
• 22:46
  the
• 22:47
  ruins,
• 22:47
  like
• 22:48
  Alexander
• 22:48
  the
• 22:49
  Great
• 22:49
  did,
• 22:49
  by
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  way,
• 22:50
  when
• 22:50
  he
• 22:50
  left
• 22:50
  and
• 22:50
  he
• 22:51
  went
• 22:51
  to
• 22:51
  conquer
• 22:51
  the
• 22:52
  known
• 22:52
  world,
• 22:53
  his
• 22:53
  first
• 22:53
  stop
• 22:54
  was
• 22:54
  Troy
• 22:55
  to
• 22:55
  go
• 22:56
  to
• 22:56
  the
• 22:56
  shrine
• 22:56
  of
• 22:57
  Achilles.
• 22:57
  He
• 22:58
  wanted
• 22:58
  the
• 22:58
  approval
• 22:59
  of
• 22:59
  people
• 23:00
  who
• 23:00
  then
• 23:00
  knew
• 23:01
  he
• 23:01
  respected
• 23:02
  Homer
• 23:02
  and
• 23:03
  respected
• 23:03
  the
• 23:03
  history.
• 23:04
  My
• 23:04
  guess
• 23:04
  is
• 23:05
  from
• 23:05
  there,
• 23:05
  Homer
• 23:06
  then
• 23:06
  crossed
• 23:06
  the
• 23:07
  sea,
• 23:07
  went
• 23:07
  to
• 23:07
  Greece,
• 23:08
  and
• 23:08
  began
• 23:08
  to
• 23:08
  go
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  some
• 23:10
  of
• 23:10
  the
• 23:10
  place
• 23:10
  names
• 23:11
  that
• 23:12
  he
• 23:12
  would
• 23:12
  have
• 23:12
  gone
• 23:12
  to,
• 23:13
  which
• 23:13
  Pauline
• 23:14
  we
• 23:14
  still
• 23:14
  go
• 23:15
  to
• 23:15
  today.
• 23:15
  We're
• 23:16
  still
• 23:16
  going
• 23:16
  to
• 23:16
  Mycenae,
• 23:17
  Sparta,
• 23:18
  Epidaurus,
• 23:19
  all
• 23:19
  these
• 23:20
  Delphi,
• 23:20
  the
• 23:21
  great
• 23:21
  oracular
• 23:22
  sites.
• 23:22
  He
• 23:22
  would
• 23:23
  have
• 23:23
  heard
• 23:23
  these
• 23:23
  different
• 23:24
  versions.
• 23:24
  And
• 23:24
  I
• 23:24
  think
• 23:25
  the
• 23:25
  opening
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  then
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  closing
• 23:26
  of
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  book
• 23:26
  is
• 23:27
  anchored
• 23:27
  in
• 23:28
  historical
• 23:28
  sites.
• 23:29
  Now,
• 23:30
  this
• 23:30
  is
• 23:30
  what
• 23:30
  I
• 23:30
  wrestled
• 23:31
  with
• 23:31
  for
• 23:31
  so
• 23:31
  long,
• 23:31
  and
• 23:32
  Homeric
• 23:32
  scholars
• 23:33
  have
• 23:33
  forever.
• 23:34
  It's
• 23:34
  the
• 23:34
  middle
• 23:34
  portions
• 23:35
  of
• 23:35
  the
• 23:35
  book
• 23:36
  9
• 23:36
  through
• 23:36
  12.
• 23:37
  It's
• 23:37
  complete
• 23:38
  wonderland.
• 23:39
  This
• 23:39
  is
• 23:40
  Odysseus
• 23:40
  in
• 23:41
  Wonderland.
• 23:41
  Like
• 23:41
  Alice
• 23:41
  in
• 23:42
  Wonderland.
• 23:42
  It's
• 23:43
  hallucinogenic.
• 23:44
  This
• 23:45
  is
• 23:45
  where
• 23:45
  he
• 23:45
  meets
• 23:45
  the
• 23:46
  Cyclops,
• 23:46
  Circe,
• 23:47
  the
• 23:48
  Sirens,
• 23:48
  Calypso,
• 23:49
  Psylla,
• 23:50
  and
• 23:50
  Kribidus.
• 23:50
  All
• 23:51
  this.
• 23:51
  Why?
• 23:52
  Why
• 23:53
  would
• 23:53
  he
• 23:53
  meet
• 23:54
  all
• 23:54
  of
• 23:54
  these,
• 23:54
  have
• 23:55
  these
• 23:55
  hallucinogenic
• 23:56
  adventures,
• 23:56
  I
• 23:57
  think,
• 23:57
  and
• 23:58
  dealing
• 23:58
  with
• 23:58
  people
• 23:59
  like
• 23:59
  Dr.
• 23:59
  Ed
• 23:59
  Tick,
• 24:00
  who
• 24:00
  deals
• 24:00
  with
• 24:00
  PTSD
• 24:01
  and
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  trauma
• 24:02
  of
• 24:03
  returning
• 24:04
  soldiers
• 24:04
  from
• 24:05
  war,
• 24:05
  that
• 24:06
  on
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  way
• 24:06
  home,
• 24:07
  and
• 24:07
  even
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  first,
• 24:08
  maybe
• 24:09
  several
• 24:09
  years
• 24:09
  upon
• 24:10
  returning
• 24:10
  home,
• 24:11
  warriors
• 24:12
  go
• 24:12
  through
• 24:13
  hell.
• 24:14
  They
• 24:14
  have
• 24:14
  returning
• 24:15
  visions,
• 24:16
  they
• 24:16
  have
• 24:18
  nightmares.
• 24:19
  And
• 24:19
  so
• 24:20
  for
• 24:20
  me,
• 24:20
  what
• 24:20
  is
• 24:20
  happening
• 24:21
  when
• 24:21
  Odysseus
• 24:22
  begins
• 24:22
  to
• 24:22
  tell
• 24:22
  the
• 24:23
  people
• 24:23
  on
• 24:23
  Fascia,
• 24:24
  which
• 24:24
  is
• 24:24
  modern
• 24:24
  Corfu,
• 24:26
  what
• 24:26
  happened?
• 24:27
  He's
• 24:28
  beginning
• 24:28
  to
• 24:28
  tell
• 24:28
  of
• 24:29
  what?
• 24:29
  About
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  inner
• 24:30
  workings,
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  inner
• 24:31
  trauma
• 24:32
  of
• 24:32
  a
• 24:33
  soldier
• 24:34
  with
• 24:34
  what
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  like
• 24:34
  to
• 24:35
  think
• 24:35
  of
• 24:35
  as
• 24:35
  soul
• 24:35
  rust.
• 24:36
  If
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  haven't
• 24:37
  found
• 24:38
  a
• 24:38
  way
• 24:38
  to
• 24:38
  heal
• 24:39
  from
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  trauma
• 24:39
  of
• 24:40
  war,
• 24:41
  it
• 24:41
  begins
• 24:42
  to
• 24:42
  eat
• 24:42
  you
• 24:42
  out
• 24:42
  from
• 24:42
  the
• 24:43
  inside.
• 24:43
  All
• 24:44
  of
• 24:44
  these
• 24:44
  encounters
• 24:45
  with
• 24:45
  monsters
• 24:46
  and
• 24:46
  seductresses
• 24:48
  are
• 24:48
  projections
• 24:49
  of
• 24:49
  what
• 24:49
  happens
• 24:50
  to
• 24:50
  a
• 24:51
  severely
• 24:51
  wounded
• 24:52
  warrior.
• 24:52
  Which
• 24:53
  means
• 24:53
  you
• 24:53
  can't
• 24:53
  talk
• 24:54
  about
• 24:54
  this
• 24:54
  in
• 24:54
  logical
• 24:55
  language.
• 24:56
  You
• 24:56
  can't
• 24:56
  say,
• 24:56
  well,
• 24:57
  now
• 24:57
  he
• 24:57
  went
• 24:58
  to
• 24:58
  Athens
• 24:58
  and
• 24:58
  he
• 24:58
  sat
• 24:59
  down
• 24:59
  with
• 25:00
  a
• 25:00
  doctor
• 25:00
  there,
• 25:00
  and
• 25:00
  they
• 25:01
  talk
• 25:01
  this
• 25:01
  thing
• 25:01
  out.
• 25:02
  No.
• 25:04
  And
• 25:04
  that's
• 25:05
  why
• 25:05
  it's
• 25:05
  so
• 25:05
  hard
• 25:06
  to
• 25:06
  trace
• 25:07
  these
• 25:07
  places
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  historical
• 25:09
  sites.
• 25:10
  However,
• 25:10
  these
• 25:11
  sites
• 25:12
  have
• 25:12
  been
• 25:12
  argued
• 25:13
  for
• 25:14
  since
• 25:14
  antiquity.
• 25:15
  Within
• 25:15
  probably
• 25:16
  a
• 25:16
  hundred
• 25:16
  years
• 25:17
  of
• 25:17
  Homer's
• 25:17
  death,
• 25:18
  there
• 25:18
  were
• 25:18
  writers
• 25:18
  like
• 25:19
  Herodotus,
• 25:20
  later
• 25:20
  Thucydides,
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  great
• 25:22
  playwrights,
• 25:23
  Euripides,
• 25:24
  Aeschylus,
• 25:25
  and
• 25:25
  all
• 25:25
  these
• 25:25
  right
• 25:26
  up
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  modern
• 25:26
  world.
• 25:26
  Virgil
• 25:27
  Dante.
• 25:29
  Modern
• 25:29
  poets
• 25:29
  and
• 25:30
  filmmakers
• 25:31
  have
• 25:31
  been
• 25:31
  trying
• 25:31
  to
• 25:32
  say,
• 25:33
  where
• 25:34
  did
• 25:34
  they
• 25:34
  encounter
• 25:34
  the
• 25:35
  Sirens?
• 25:35
  If
• 25:36
  you
• 25:36
  travel
• 25:36
  to
• 25:37
  Sicily,
• 25:38
  the
• 25:38
  locals
• 25:39
  will
• 25:39
  say,
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  Sirens
• 25:40
  were
• 25:41
  here
• 25:41
  in
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  Straits
• 25:42
  of
• 25:42
  Messina.
• 25:43
  Right?
• 25:43
  They
• 25:44
  have
• 25:44
  taken
• 25:44
  great,
• 25:45
  great
• 25:45
  pride
• 25:46
  in
• 25:46
  this
• 25:47
  for
• 25:47
  years.
• 25:48
  Mount
• 25:48
  Etna,
• 25:49
  the
• 25:50
  volcano,
• 25:51
  is
• 25:51
  argued
• 25:52
  to
• 25:52
  be
• 25:52
  the
• 25:53
  site
• 25:53
  of
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  Cyclops.
• 25:54
  But
• 25:54
  the
• 25:55
  people
• 25:55
  on
• 25:55
  Crete,
• 25:55
  the
• 25:56
  southern
• 25:56
  coast
• 25:56
  of
• 25:56
  Crete,
• 25:57
  they'll
• 25:57
  say,
• 25:57
  no,
• 25:57
  we
• 25:58
  have
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  cave
• 25:58
  here.
• 25:58
  And
• 25:58
  we.
• 25:59
  Our
• 25:59
  tradition
• 26:00
  for
• 26:00
  2,500
• 26:01
  years
• 26:01
  has
• 26:02
  been
• 26:02
  here.
• 26:02
  Now,
• 26:03
  why?
• 26:05
  I
• 26:05
  live
• 26:06
  in
• 26:06
  north
• 26:06
  beach,
• 26:06
  in
• 26:07
  San
• 26:07
  Francisco,
• 26:08
  and
• 26:08
  we
• 26:08
  have
• 26:09
  visitors
• 26:10
  today
• 26:10
  who
• 26:10
  are
• 26:10
  coming
• 26:11
  from
• 26:11
  all
• 26:11
  around
• 26:11
  the
• 26:11
  world
• 26:12
  to
• 26:12
  see
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  historical
• 26:13
  sites,
• 26:14
  but
• 26:14
  they're
• 26:14
  also
• 26:15
  coming
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  see
• 26:15
  the
• 26:16
  places
• 26:16
  where
• 26:16
  famous
• 26:17
  movies
• 26:17
  were
• 26:17
  filmed.
• 26:18
  And
• 26:18
  I
• 26:19
  think
• 26:19
  that's
• 26:20
  equivalent
• 26:21
  to
• 26:21
  what
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  ancient
• 26:22
  travelers
• 26:23
  were
• 26:23
  doing.
• 26:23
  They
• 26:24
  knew
• 26:24
  that
• 26:24
  Odysseus
• 26:25
  wasn't
• 26:26
  a
• 26:26
  literal
• 26:27
  hero,
• 26:27
  probably
• 26:28
  based
• 26:28
  on
• 26:28
  a
• 26:28
  great
• 26:28
  warrior,
• 26:29
  but
• 26:29
  the
• 26:30
  story
• 26:31
  was
• 26:31
  bigger
• 26:31
  than
• 26:31
  life.
• 26:33
  In
• 26:33
  the
• 26:33
  same
• 26:33
  way
• 26:33
  that
• 26:34
  I
• 26:34
  am
• 26:34
  only
• 26:34
  about
• 26:35
  50
• 26:35
  yards
• 26:36
  away
• 26:36
  from
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  house
• 26:36
  where
• 26:37
  Invasion
• 26:37
  of
• 26:37
  the
• 26:37
  Body
• 26:38
  Snatchers
• 26:38
  was
• 26:39
  filmed.
• 26:40
  And
• 26:40
  there
• 26:41
  are
• 26:41
  tourists
• 26:41
  who
• 26:41
  come
• 26:42
  there
• 26:42
  and
• 26:42
  say,
• 26:42
  oh,
• 26:42
  this
• 26:42
  is
• 26:43
  where
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  pods
• 26:43
  were.
• 26:44
  It
• 26:44
  was
• 26:44
  in
• 26:44
  a
• 26:44
  movie.
• 26:45
  So
• 26:45
  does
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  make
• 26:46
  it
• 26:46
  real?
• 26:47
  Sure.
• 26:48
  Right.
• 26:49
  What
• 26:49
  is
• 26:49
  this
• 26:49
  impulse?
• 26:50
  The
• 26:50
  impulse
• 26:51
  is
• 26:51
  to
• 26:51
  see
• 26:51
  a
• 26:51
  place,
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  think,
• 26:53
  where
• 26:53
  your
• 26:53
  imagination
• 26:54
  is
• 26:54
  ignited
• 26:56
  and
• 26:56
  you
• 26:56
  begin
• 26:57
  to
• 26:57
  think,
• 26:57
  what
• 26:58
  if?
• 26:58
  What
• 26:59
  if
• 26:59
  is
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  great
• 27:00
  question
• 27:00
  in
• 27:01
  Drama
• 27:01
  throughout
• 27:01
  history.
• 27:02
  So
• 27:02
  I
• 27:02
  encourage
• 27:03
  people
• 27:03
  who
• 27:04
  are
• 27:04
  thinking
• 27:04
  about
• 27:04
  going
• 27:05
  to
• 27:05
  Greece
• 27:05
  to
• 27:06
  take
• 27:06
  a
• 27:06
  copy
• 27:06
  book,
• 27:07
  the
• 27:07
  Ulysses
• 27:08
  expedition,
• 27:08
  where
• 27:09
  the
• 27:09
  great
• 27:09
  sailor
• 27:10
  Tim
• 27:10
  Severin
• 27:12
  goes
• 27:12
  to
• 27:12
  many
• 27:13
  of
• 27:13
  these
• 27:13
  different
• 27:13
  sites.
• 27:14
  Not
• 27:14
  just
• 27:14
  to
• 27:15
  say
• 27:15
  this
• 27:16
  actually
• 27:16
  happened
• 27:17
  historically,
• 27:17
  but
• 27:18
  he's
• 27:18
  saying
• 27:18
  this
• 27:18
  is
• 27:19
  where
• 27:19
  people
• 27:19
  have
• 27:19
  gone
• 27:19
  for
• 27:20
  2,500
• 27:21
  years
• 27:21
  and
• 27:21
  their
• 27:22
  minds
• 27:22
  were
• 27:22
  set
• 27:23
  on
• 27:23
  fire.
• 27:24
  Right.
• 27:24
  Yeah,
• 27:25
  that's
• 27:25
  a
• 27:25
  beautiful
• 27:26
  way.
• 27:26
  Yeah,
• 27:27
  that's
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  beautiful
• 27:28
  way
• 27:28
  to
• 27:28
  look
• 27:28
  at
• 27:28
  it.
• 27:29
  Thank
• 27:29
  you.
• 27:30
  One
• 27:30
  thing
• 27:30
  to
• 27:30
  add
• 27:31
  to
• 27:31
  that,
• 27:31
  I.
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  would
• 27:33
  suggest
• 27:33
  wherever
• 27:34
  you
• 27:34
  go,
• 27:35
  take
• 27:35
  something
• 27:35
  modern,
• 27:36
  a
• 27:36
  modern
• 27:36
  history,
• 27:36
  but
• 27:37
  also
• 27:37
  take
• 27:37
  some
• 27:38
  folklore.
• 27:38
  Take
• 27:38
  there
• 27:38
  was
• 27:39
  something
• 27:39
  about
• 27:39
  Irish
• 27:40
  folklore
• 27:40
  that
• 27:40
  will
• 27:41
  reveal
• 27:41
  the
• 27:41
  Irish
• 27:42
  soul
• 27:42
  in
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  way
• 27:42
  that
• 27:43
  the
• 27:43
  modern
• 27:43
  newspaper
• 27:44
  can't.
• 27:44
  Or
• 27:44
  a
• 27:44
  modern
• 27:45
  historical
• 27:45
  book.
• 27:46
  You
• 27:46
  go
• 27:46
  to
• 27:46
  Greece,
• 27:47
  take
• 27:47
  some
• 27:48
  version
• 27:48
  of
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  Iliad
• 27:49
  and.
• 27:49
  Or
• 27:49
  the
• 27:49
  Odyssey.
• 27:50
  Because
• 27:50
  it's
• 27:51
  a
• 27:51
  through
• 27:51
  line.
• 27:52
  It's
• 27:52
  a
• 27:52
  through
• 27:53
  line
• 27:53
  and
• 27:53
  it
• 27:53
  will
• 27:54
  set
• 27:54
  your
• 27:54
  mind
• 27:55
  on
• 27:55
  fire.
• 27:56
  Well,
• 27:57
  on
• 27:57
  that
• 27:57
  happy
• 27:57
  note,
• 27:58
  I'm
• 27:59
  going
• 27:59
  to
• 27:59
  say
• 27:59
  thank
• 27:59
  you
• 28:00
  so
• 28:00
  much,
• 28:00
  Phil.
• 28:01
  It's
• 28:01
  always
• 28:01
  an
• 28:02
  education
• 28:02
  to
• 28:03
  read
• 28:03
  you,
• 28:03
  to
• 28:03
  speak
• 28:04
  with
• 28:04
  you,
• 28:04
  to
• 28:05
  get
• 28:05
  to
• 28:05
  be
• 28:06
  in
• 28:06
  your
• 28:07
  presence.
• 28:08
  So
• 28:08
  thank
• 28:08
  you
• 28:08
  again.
• 28:09
  Well,
• 28:10
  thank
• 28:10
  you
• 28:10
  and
• 28:10
  thank
• 28:10
  you
• 28:11
  for
• 28:11
  keeping
• 28:12
  the
• 28:12
  radio
• 28:12
  waves
• 28:13
  waving
• 28:13
  to
• 28:13
  the
• 28:14
  rest
• 28:14
  of
• 28:14
  us.
• 28:16
  And
• 28:16
  that
• 28:16
  is
• 28:16
  it
• 28:17
  for
• 28:17
  this
• 28:17
  week's
• 28:18
  podcast.
• 28:18
  I
• 28:18
  thank
• 28:19
  you
• 28:19
  so
• 28:19
  much
• 28:19
  for
• 28:19
  listening.
• 28:20
  And
• 28:20
  to
• 28:20
  those
• 28:21
  who
• 28:21
  are
• 28:21
  traveling,
• 28:22
  may
• 28:22
  I
• 28:22
  wish
• 28:22
  you
• 28:22
  a
• 28:23
  hearty
• 28:23
  bon
• 28:24
  voyage.
• 28:37
  Sour
• 28:37
  candy
• 28:38
  on
• 28:39
  the
• 28:39
  table
• 28:41
  Lazy
• 28:42
  afternoons
• 28:43
  in
• 28:44
  your
• 28:44
  sweatpants
• 28:45
  Watching
• 28:45
  cable
• 28:48
  well,
• 28:48
  it
• 28:48
  feels
• 28:49
  so
• 28:49
  far
• 28:50
  away
• 28:53
  all
• 28:53
  the
• 28:53
  channels
• 28:55
  seem
• 28:55
  the
• 28:55
  same
• 28:58
  Trying
• 28:58
  to
• 28:59
  remember
• 29:00
  all
• 29:00
  the
• 29:00
  songs
• 29:01
  we
• 29:01
  like
• 29:01
  to
• 29:02
  play?
• 29:03
  Cause
• 29:03
  those
• 29:03
  lazy
• 29:04
  afternoons
• 29:05
  don't
• 29:05
  come
• 29:06
  so
• 29:06
  frequently
• 29:07
  these
• 29:07
  days
• 29:09
  oh,
• 29:10
  it's
• 29:10
  been
• 29:11
  so
• 29:12
  long
• 29:13
  and
• 29:13
  I
• 29:14
  cannot
• 29:14
  help
• 29:15
  but
• 29:15
  wonder
• 29:16
  Are
• 29:16
  you
• 29:16
  ever
• 29:17
  coming
• 29:18
  home?
• 29:18
  I
• 29:19
  like
• 29:19
  you
• 29:19
  with
• 29:20
  your
• 29:20
  sour
• 29:20
  candy
• 29:21
  in
• 29:21
  the
• 29:22
  boat
• 29:22
  house
• 29:22
  on
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  late
• 29:24
  oh,
• 29:24
  but
• 29:24
  I
• 29:25
  hate,
• 29:25
  I
• 29:25
  hate,
• 29:26
  I
• 29:26
  hate,
• 29:26
  I
• 29:26
  hate,
• 29:27
  I
• 29:27
  hate,
• 29:28
  I
• 29:29
  hate
• 29:29
  the
• 29:29
  way
• 29:29
  it
• 29:30
  takes.
• 29:41
  I
• 29:42
  can't
• 29:42
  get
• 29:42
  you
• 29:43
  off
• 29:43
  of
• 29:43
  my
• 29:44
  mind
• 29:46
  Looking
• 29:47
  out
• 29:47
  the
• 29:48
  window
• 29:48
  where
• 29:49
  we
• 29:49
  spend
• 29:49
  so
• 29:49
  much
• 29:50
  of
• 29:50
  our
• 29:50
  time
• 29:52
  Cuz
• 29:53
  I
• 29:53
  miss
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  way
• 29:54
  it
• 29:54
  felt
• 29:56
  But
• 29:57
  I
• 29:57
  guess
• 29:57
  you
• 29:57
  can't
• 29:58
  control
• 29:59
  those
• 29:59
  damn
• 29:59
  cards
• 30:00
  with
• 30:03
  babe
• 30:03
  I
• 30:03
  know
• 30:03
  the
• 30:04
  both
• 30:04
  of
• 30:04
  us
• 30:05
  are
• 30:05
  ask
• 30:05
  me
• 30:06
  when
• 30:06
  we're
• 30:06
  free
• 30:07
  but
• 30:08
  would
• 30:08
  it
• 30:08
  be
• 30:09
  so
• 30:09
  hard
• 30:10
  to
• 30:10
  find
• 30:10
  your
• 30:11
  freedom
• 30:11
  here
• 30:12
  with
• 30:12
  me?
• 30:14
  Wow,
• 30:15
  it's
• 30:15
  been
• 30:16
  so
• 30:16
  long
• 30:18
  and
• 30:18
  I
• 30:18
  cannot
• 30:19
  help
• 30:19
  but
• 30:20
  wonder
• 30:21
  Are
• 30:21
  you
• 30:21
  ever
• 30:22
  coming
• 30:22
  home?
• 30:23
  I
• 30:23
  like
• 30:24
  you
• 30:24
  with
• 30:24
  your
• 30:25
  sour
• 30:25
  candy
• 30:26
  in
• 30:26
  the
• 30:26
  boat
• 30:27
  house
• 30:27
  on
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  lake
• 30:29
  But
• 30:29
  I
• 30:29
  hate,
• 30:30
  I
• 30:30
  hate,
• 30:31
  I
• 30:31
  hate,
• 30:31
  I
• 30:31
  hate,
• 30:32
  I
• 30:32
  hate,
• 30:33
  I
• 30:33
  hate
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  way
• 30:34
  it.
• 30:40
  Sam.