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Closed Doors, Redacted Files, and the Bondi Testimony (5/30/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. On Friday, May twenty ninth, Pam Bondy made
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an appearance before Congress, and the point of the hearing
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obviously was to answer for the way the DOJ has
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handled the Epstein situation, and according to reports, Pam Bondy
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refused to answer questions about what role the Trump administration
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played when it comes to giving directives and being in
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charge of this obvious cover up. Now, what I will say,
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like usual, is that until we see the transcripts for ourselves,
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I'm not going to throw Pam Bondy directly under the bus.
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And look, I have no doubts that she was not helpful,
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but I just want to see the transcripts for myself
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because I don't trust anybody involved. Both sides have turned
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this into an absolute circus, and because of that, we're
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never going to get any real answers. We're never going
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to get any real justice because now there's a big
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portion of the country that believes this is a hoax.
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And when you have people out here running around making
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all kinds of allegations that there's no evidence backing up,
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you're giving these people a built in excuse. You're giving
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these people built in armor. And that's why I've always
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said that we don't have to chase all the salacious stories.
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And the vast majority of these silatious stories that have
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come out recently, in my opinion, are not true. And
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the amount of people turning this into a circus is unbelievable,
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and honestly, it's disheartening. And it's my guess that some
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of these people that are out here talking this nonsense
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are part of the opposition, are part of the syop
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And unfortunately a lot of people don't care about the
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truth here. They just want whatever political ammunition they can
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find to go after their enemies. And it's both sides
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doing it. And that's why I never believe what they
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tell us on the back end of one of these hearings. Right,
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we got to see it for ourselves. I don't trust
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anybody involved, so I'm going to need to see that
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work all Right. Today we have an article from Politico
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and the headline Bondie Ship's responsibility for Epstein fi release
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to Todd Blanche, making him democrats next target. Well, isn't
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that nice supper? Good old Todd? Baby Billy Blanche was
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in charge, not me. I was just the boss. I
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delegated that. Next time you're the project lead at work
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and something goes wrong, just tell your boss that you
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delegated it. I'm sure that'll be fine. This article was
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authored by Haley Fuchs. In closed door remarks Friday to
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members of Congress, former Attorney General Pam Bondi punted a
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responsibility for the administration's handling of the release of the
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Epstein files to Acting Attorney General Todd baby Billy Blanche.
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So is that going to be the scapegoat? Is it
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gonna be Todd baby Billy Blanche who ends up holding
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that hot potato? When all said and done, somebody's gonna
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have to take the fall. They're gonna need a fall guy,
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and it's not Bondi. Bondi's out of dodge. She's already
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moving on to the next grift. So it's gonna be
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Todd baby Billy Blanche. Huh, Well, okay, but somebody going
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to have to answer for this at some point. Now.
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Democrats on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee say
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they want to hear from Blanche, and they're prepared to
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force a vote to subpoena him if necessary, Well, good luck.
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I doubt the Republicans are going to want anything to
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do with that. It's just a big ass hoax after all, right,
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And with Massy losing in Kentucky, they're feeling themselves. They
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think that the Epstein issue is over and done with now,
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they think that they have some tenable ground to stand upon,
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And the truth is they're not wrong. And due to
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people over politicizing this who have no idea what they're
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talking about, it's caused a lot of people to retreat
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to their bunkers. And I'm telling you right now, this
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has to be a group effort. It's not just the
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Republicans or the Democrats or the independents that can make
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something happen here. We have to work together, and that's
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just not in the cards. Everybody is way too busy
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scrambling and fighting with each other instead of focusing on
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the people that we should be focusing on, the people
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that really ruin our lives, the people that were palin
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around with Epstein, and the people that are telling you
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that this is a hoax. But sure, just keep fighting
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with each other, because that's a great idea. The request
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is going in today to Chairman James Comer to have
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Todd Blanche come in. Representative Robert Garcia of California, the
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top Democrat on the Oversight Committee, to all reporters. If
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he doesn't do it, we're going to force a subpoena
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and try to get votes. But he's got to come in. Look,
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I don't know if he's gonna be able to do that,
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if they're going to be able to force it, if
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Trump will allow it, and if Billy Blanche will comply,
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I mean, why would he? The problem is there's no teeth,
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so Congress can demand whatever they want. But the truth is,
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how do they enforce it? How do they force people
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to do what they have to do? Well, they can't
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because there's no real oversight in this country anymore. And
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any time a judge steps in to make a decision
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or a ruling, it gets blasted as being politically driven,
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and on and on it goes. And you know who
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benefits from that. The people that were with Epstein, the
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people that supported them, and the people who were covering
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it up. Garcia added that Cash Battel, the FBI director,
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is number two on the list. Crash out Patel huh
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maybe he'll think that Congress is Valhalla. Bondi was on
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Capitol Hill for a transcribed interview with the Oversight Panel
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Friday as part of its ongoing investigation into the federal
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government's handling of the Epstein Files. Bondy, who President Donald
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Trump fired in April, has faced a torrent of criticism
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over botched redactions in the millions of pages that were
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made public during her tenure when Blanche was then serving
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as her deputy. They were both in on it. You're
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gonna blame Blanche. Let's stop the nonsense. Okay. This was
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all directed by Donald Trump, not Todd Blanche, not Pam Bondy.
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They were doing as they were told. Imagine trying to
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act like that wasn't the case, Like Pambondi and Todd
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Blanche were making the decisions. Yeah, because that's exactly the
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kind of guy that Donald Trump is. Let me have
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my subordinates make these big decisions for me, sure, okay.
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In our prepared opening statement obtained by Politico, Bondi defended
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her agency's efforts to follow the Epstein Files Transparency Act
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legislation passed by Congress in November that compel the government
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to release documents and material in the federal government's possession
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related to the Epstein case, which they didn't do. They're
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still not compliant with the law, and there's no repercussions.
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Nobody's in trouble. Nobody is, you know, getting called before
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Congress facing serious jeopardy for ignoring the law. That's only
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for you, that's not for them. There were redaction Errs
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Bondie acknowledged, according to a prepared opening statement. But since
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day one of this process, this department has been committed
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to accountability and transparency. No it hasn't. That's a lie.
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Transparency means transparency. Now you guys choosing and gatekeeping what
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we get to see, She continued. Our stance has always
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been that the Department stands ready to review any potential
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evidence of criminal activity related to Ebstein and disassociates, and
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will pursue appropriate investigative or a prosecutorial action wherever the
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facts in law warrant, unless it has to do with money,
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unless it has to do with immigration fraud, unless it
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has to do with human trafficking. This is more than
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just girls getting abused, and I think people seem to
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miss that, or they're doing it purposely. Because that's much
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harder to approve. Right, we have people who are dead,
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people forget things, people don't want to come forward. I
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get it. Now, does that discount it? Of course not.
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It's the most vile part of the whole story. But
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if we want to get these people, as I've told
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you many times, focus on the money, focus on the
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paper trail, focus on the immigration fraud, and focus on
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the cover up. But that's not good enough, is it?
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Not salacious enough, not shiny enough, not a big enough
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political hammer. But she also noted, as the head of
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a large department with broader responsibilities, I did not lead
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every aspect of the effort or conduct that document review myself.
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I delegated oversight of the process to Deputy Attorney General
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Todd Blanche And look, that's how it works in a
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big department, no doubt about it. But when you delegate something,
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you're still responsible for the final outcome. And anyone who's
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a manager or has been a manager and has had,
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you know, team projects that had to get done. You
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delegate something to a supervisor or whatever, and they're in
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charge of that portion of the project. But at the
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end of the day, the buck stops with you right,
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you're the boss, you're the project manager. But I guess
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that only matters in the private sector. When you work
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in government. Well, you can just blame whoever you want.
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It would be an embarrassing and political glee fraud exercise
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for either Blanche or Ptel to be forced to testify
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as part of the Oversight Panel's ongoing investigation into the
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late convicted sex offender. Blanche, Bondie's former deputy, has not
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yet been nominated to serve in the attorney general role permanently,
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given him career uncertainty. Patel, meanwhile, is already under some
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public pressure to resign or be terminated for erratic behavior
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an alleged misuse of taxpayer dollars. Well, how about the
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fact that he already lied about the Epstein situation. Should
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we just forget about that there was nobody else involved,
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We have no more evidence. Oh okay, cool, I guess
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what we've seen in those emails and with those documents
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is just a figment of all of our imagination, just
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a nationwide hallucinogenic episode. A DOJ spokesperson referred comment to
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a post on x from Bondie on Friday afternoon in
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which she said, she praised Acting ag Blanche's management of
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this herculean task. The FBI did not immediately respond to
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request for comment. Of course not they're not going to respond.
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Why would they, And if they do, like usual, it'll
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be canned. That's how it always works, isn't it. A
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spokesperson for Comer also did not immediately provide information about
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whether he would call him Blanche or Patel or risk
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enough Republicans joining Democrats to hijack a committee meeting to
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compel a vote on a motion to subpoena either which
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Republicans exactly? I mean, let's be real, the vast majority
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of Republicans have retreated from this, especially after the message
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has been sent with Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor Green, Nancy Mace,
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and Lauren Bobert. The message is loud and clear. Epstein
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is off limits. Do not, for one single second think
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about doing anything Epstein related if you're in the GOP,
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unless you want Donald Trump to turn on you and
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unleash the hound. Bondi yourself has been under scrutiny since
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early last year, when she said in a Fox News
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interview that she had the soul called Epstein client list
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on her desk. The FBI and DJ later released a
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memo saying it did not have such a list, nor
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did it intend to release further information in the Epstein case.
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So why would they do that? Right after saying they
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were going to release everything, they just stop in their
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tracks and they're like, hold up, we're not releasing anything
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that doesn't come off as suspicious to you. That doesn't
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leave you wondering what they were so scared of and
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spook by. After they were so serious and so sure
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that they were going to release the files throughout the
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whole campaign, they get a look at them and all
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of a sudden that changes. Yeah, tell me it's not
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a cover up. The events sparked outrage among Democrats and
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Republicans alike, leading up to passage in November of the
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Epstein Files Transparency Act, but bipartisan criticism was reignited once
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again as the files were rolled out in a haphazard
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and incomplete fashion, where information about Epstein's victims were inadvertently
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revealed while details about potential perpetrators were kept hidden. Inadvertently. Huh,
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I have another problem with that. I don't believe that
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it was inadvertent. I think it was on purpose, and
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it was just another way to intimidate people, because that's
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what this is all about now, intimidation. Trump has removed
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the carrot and he's using the stick. In March, the
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Oversight Committee voted to subpoena Bondi for her testimony, in
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a surprise move initiated by Representative Nancy Mace and backed
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by four other House Republicans. It was a stunning rebuke
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of the administration's handling of the Epstein matter. Rarely, if ever,
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does the party in the majority subpoena a sitting cabinet
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member of their own party. And that's definitely true. The
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last thing you want to do is open the door.
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But Bondi was ousted about a month later. In Comer,
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a Kentucky Republican downgraded the terms of her appearance to
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a transcribed interview rather than a formal deposition, meaning that
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she would not have to answer questions under oath and
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the proceeding will not be video recorded. Waste the time.
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Look we're doing something here, guys. Look I want everyone
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to think that we're going to talk to Bondie. What
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an absolute joke. And if anyone should be primaried, it
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should be James Comer, all these Republicans that carried water
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for Trump, do they understand that Trump is not forever
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and that once Trump is gone from the White House,
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it's going to be a whole different ballgame, especially when
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people aren't intimidated by Trump anymore, because that's the big problem.
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People are scared, and when you're scared, you're not going
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to say shit. One of the victims, Charlene Rochard, confronted
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Comer Friday morning as he addressed reporters before joining for
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the start of Bondie's interview, asking him to promise that
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individuals brought in as part of the congressional Epstein investigation
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testify under oath. If you lie to Congress, it's a felony.
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Comer said, in defense of his own panels process. We're
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bringing in people that have never been brought in before.
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And here's my prediction. When all said and done, they're
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going to point the systemic failures. They're going to say
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that Epstein died by suicide and everything was just the
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perfect storm coming together at the right time, and there's
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nobody to hold accountable. It just you know what happened.
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That's my prediction, and that's what Comer is going to do?
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Liz Stein, another victim, asked Comer to commit to getting
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answers from former Attorney General about the redaction process, specifically
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why details about victims were exposed while information about potential
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perpetrators was withheld. Those are questions we're going to ask,
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and we're doing this. We want justice for the survivors,
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Comer said, adding that if Epstein victims were not satisfied
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by Bondie's responses, the committee would work to get them answers.
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Oh yeah, sure, did you ask Donald Trump first? You
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might want to run it by him. James Comer Garcia
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told reporters he and his colleagues were incredibly disappointed by
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the majority's decision not to force Bondi to testify under
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the parameters of a subpoena. Bondy was joined by Justice
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Department staff during the transcribed interview, and Democrats accused do
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Ojay of playing interference. Representative Melanie Stansbury said that when
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Bondie was asked about a conversation she might have had
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with Trump, one of her lawyers interjected to say that
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Bondi was not required to answer because the event was
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a voluntary interview. Oh, well, isn't that cute? But sure
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it wasn't voluntary for any reason whatsoever. Yo, James Comer
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thinks you're stupid as hell. The United States Department of
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Justice is intervening on behalf of Pam Bondi to stop
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her from answering questions about what happened in the cover
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up of this case and her conversations with Donald Trump,
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and his asserting that she does not have to answer
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questions because she's not required too because she's not being
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deposed under oath Stansbury Toll reporters. The DOJ has been
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accused of withholding portions of the Epstein files linking Trump
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and Epstein, though Trump is maintained that he broke off
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his relationship with Epstein years ago. The President has denied
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any wrongdoing and has not been charged with any crimes
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in relation to the late disgraced financier. All right, so,
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like usual, we're gonna have to wait and see for
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the transcripts right to get a full accounting of what
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went down. But I have no doubt that Pam Bondi
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didn't answer any questions and that she was evasive, because
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that's just the way it goes. It doesn't matter if
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it's Pam Bondi or anyone else. So when those transcripts
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do come out, we'll get right on them and we'll
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make sure we get them added to the catalog. But
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until then, that's going to do it for this one.
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