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Yoreh De’ah 264:3. Bris Milah: How and What To Cut, Probe, Hemostat, Both Milah and Priah In One Cut, Sucking With Mouth Vs Glass Tube, Rinsing, Dressings · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning. We are continuing Helcos Amila
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  Raish Summit. Dalid today.
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  We are going to continue in Saif Gimel.
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  Just a real quick shout out to. Rub Oliver Friedman just to Just
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  to. Clarify if.
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  It's been confusing regarding the. 8 days of a.
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  Children for counting this we're just going to do a couple things
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  real quick is when we count again, it's. 8 days based.
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  On the baby's. Life so obviously if he's.
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  Travelling in those first eight days, it doesn't matter if he
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  crosses a date line or not. Basically the baby.
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  Himself has to see. 7 or 8 sunrises depends if he was born
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  before or after sunrise. But a full 8th day of the baby.
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  'S personal life. As far as?
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  Sunrise and sunset on the day. Of that's so again.
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  The baby's own life, wherever he is in the world, he counts onto
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  the 8th day. It's the.
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  Same thing when you have to count 7 * 24 for the baby.
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  To be healed. But when it comes to OK right
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  now it has to be Biome. You have to do the burst during
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  the. Day, so that's based.
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  On where the baby is physically on the first day and physically
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  on the 8th day. Sunrise and sunset based on
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  where he is right now at the time, hopefully that was clear.
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  And no one holds, as far as I know, of urbane mutam whatsoever
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  for helkos Tamila. So even if you're keeping say
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  it's urbane mutam of let's say 72 minutes.
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  So then let's say it's mote say Shabbos.
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  Even though you keep for helkos Shabbos, mote say Shabbos and
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  you do have dalla and everything, after 72 minutes it
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  doesn't matter once. The baby is born after what we.
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  Consider it's safe. Again, that's anywhere from,
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  let's say usually between 13 and 50 minutes, depending on where
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  you are on the globe and your latitude and where you are.
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  Whatever it is. Ask your local.
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  Orthodox rabbi, what your taste is, but that's.
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  Not relevant to Rabin utam. Also when we mentioned about a
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  toughest dam Breit. So.
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  Yeah, Hasidium as well for a toughest dam bris.
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  Then we mentioned what's also common people.
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  Use like that little. Prick The Little Lancet for
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  Diabetes and people check for. Diabetes, you can.
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  Use anything that makes. A drop of blood.
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  And regarding Mitsitza bapeh, so I did see in one state where he
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  mentions there's a Mahlocas, but as far as I know, as far as I've
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  seen as far as whichever mole I've asked, there is no such
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  thing as Mitsitza bapeh when on Hatafas dam breathe we're.
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  About to get to. We're going to explain that
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  momentarily, but there is no stocking right, whether you're.
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  And let's. Continue inside when and just to
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  clarify, just to show when we're talking about the anatomy.
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  Of the burstabula, the foreskin. So again.
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  We're going to. We know that there's.
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  Basically 2 layers of. Skin, but it's not.
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  Two separate layers. Or membranes that we're removing
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  the foreskin. It's essentially all one.
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  In other words, let's. Say you have a.
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  Piece of paper, for example, and you.
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  Fold it over so the top. Is completely connected, so this
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  is kind of like. What you would call?
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  The Orpria and the OR of Mila, it's all the way around.
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  That's your foreskin. Obviously it'd be connected over
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  here, so. It looks like this.
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  And in. Here this is where.
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  The foreskin is around. This is where the.
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  Foreskin is around the Tara the glands and if you're going to
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  use. A probe to separate the 2.
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  You're going to put in that. Probe.
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  That probe is like. That metal stick that's.
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  Got a little ball. At the end or just round at the
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  end so that it's blunt so you don't cut any.
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  Tissue and you just. Stick it inside and we're going
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  to get to that. But when you separate it, you
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  obviously can't go around in a circle because.
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  There is. A a GHEED, there's some kind of
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  a ligament or a blood vessel, I'm actually not sure on the
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  bottom of right, the GHEED and you don't want to sever it.
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  So that's also why. Everyone knows it's cut at an
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  angle, right? The anatomy is a little bit of
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  an at an angle from the side of you, but I know it's not.
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  It's not an anatomy class, but that's.
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  So you, you, basically you, you. Probe one way and then the.
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  Other way so that. This way you don't cause any
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  damage that's between when you're doing.
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  The the probe which? We're going to explain or we're
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  going to see that is done between the orpria and the
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  glands, because here it's completely.
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  Sealed. It's folded over.
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  It's but obviously when. You cut when you cut this off.
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  Then you're going to be left. With two layers, so obviously
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  the outer layer the goal is to have.
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  It completely removed and the inner.
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  Layer so that. We're going to talk about as we
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  go on, do you want to cut the complete inner layer at the same
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  time as the outer layer? And that's what people call
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  Milan. Priya bivas ahas.
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  All at once. Very.
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  Helpful. OK.
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  By the way, we spoke about. Hattafas Dambris.
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  If it's Mehakiv, well, I. Think we all?
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  Assume or agree it's not Mehakiv, but the question is if
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  there's no bleeding. Whatsoever do we do a?
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  Tafas Dambris afterwards, so I did find an egress Moshe where
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  he says ulait sari Khattafa Dambrit Ramoshe has the the Tal.
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  Has it as a. Sarah Ion I'm just going to
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  start reading again from inside, but we're going to mostly
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  explain from the middle. Gilmore, Kate said.
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  Molly Coat. So how do we do this?
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  We coat train into Orla. We cut.
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  The Orla Cola Orla. The entire foreskin, and right
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  now we're assuming the outer layer of foreskin because
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  normally the way it was done, as far as I know for hundreds of
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  years is there was no. Probe to separate.
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  It again, no one knows for sure what was done, but as far as we
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  know, probably they never did any kind of a separation.
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  Maybe there is, there's discussion.
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  But anyways, so let's assume we there was never any probe or
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  separation of the. Orpria before you start, so all
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  you do is you pull. Forward on the foreskin, right?
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  You pull the foreskin, you slide in your shield, your McGann
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  again McGann. Was created this shield.
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  To make it virtually impossible to cut any part of the glands or
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  the atara as long as it's we learned yesterday, maybe. 1 to
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  2mm. Thick, you're never going to, he
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  said. 2mm it's never going. To fit through if you start
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  making a little. Bit wider then part of the
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  glands of the attire can sneak in and that's a problem.
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  So. Then you can always cut them
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  again. Was created, maybe, I don't
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  know, maybe 3-4 hundred years ago as far as I know, but
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  anyways. They would just pull forward.
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  The only thing that would come forward is the outer.
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  Layer because the pria. The OR pria?
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  The inner layer kind of stuck a little bit.
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  Now, it wasn't completely stuck, but it was kind of stuck.
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  So. It stuck to it, in other words.
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  It wasn't like one, obviously. It's a separate layer that you.
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  Can peel apart. But it's basically it was
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  attached to it, sort of. Some kind of adhesion or
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  whatever it is if. You use the probe.
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  Then it. Exactly.
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  So they didn't use a probe, so they pull.
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  On with the foreskin only the outer layer.
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  Lifts up, you cut that and then you are left with a full layer
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  of the orapria. On the inside.
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  So that's again and. Every every aver is.
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  Different everyone's anatomy. Is slightly.
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  Different, not so different, but anyways.
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  But that's. Basically the idea.
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  Right. Just like we all look
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  differently and our fingerprints are differently, every part's a
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  little bit different. Fine, so now we're.
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  Left with the Orpriya Cola Orajofe attara so you.
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  Removed. All of that layer.
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  Ajatik Galea Attara. You want the complete attara all
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  the way down to the. Kharitz that grew the.
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  Sulcus to be removed completely of the attara we're going to
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  learn. Shortly in the next.
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  Couple simani and what are sitsin Hama aquin?
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  Sitsin Hama aquin is just left over, foreskin right.
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  It's There's no difference on looks, but there's no difference
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  between citine hemakrine and the.
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  Orola, it's exactly. The same thing.
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  It's just an expression. For leftover.
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  Citine relation like it. Sticks out or it sticks up, so
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  leftover pieces. Of any.
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  Tissue tags or pieces of the. Orola that's, that's protruding,
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  that's been left behind. That means the with the orpria
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  on it. Yeah.
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  The orpria is still on there, right?
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  Unless you removed it with a probe and cut it all at once.
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  We are Kharkov. Pouring it Akrum harak shalamata
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  Maya orbitsi pouring. And then we mentioned already
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  that you're going to cut it. You're going to.
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  Whatever is left. You RIP it down and you either
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  remove. It or just fold.
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  It down, Umak 0 Lakan Ulakan and you just fold it down and push
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  it all the way down. Below the sulcus this.
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  Way and that way. So now it's on the gate, it's on
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  the shaft. Atchira Basara attara.
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  Until now, you. Actually see the actual.
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  The straight, the glands. The Atara itself looks a little.
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  Bit differently. OK, now this is Omoticine
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  Hamila. Just means you.
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  Put your mouth over the entire thing, all the way down to where
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  you cut right. You put the mouth over, so you
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  pass where the incision is where the.
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  Bleeding is. And you suck in a little bit,
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  so. That all the blood.
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  Moves a little bit forward, it has to be a little suck in
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  motion, and then that's how we accomplish Mitsitza BET PET with
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  the mouth. And this has always been Kade,
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  actually. Chalfenar himself writes.
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  Kade Shiloya voli de. Sakana again, most told.
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  This is a lot of. Discussion and ink and on the
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  topic Metsita. The pen Metsita.
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  Bishwa Ferret with the 2. We're going to mention that
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  pretty much everyone agrees that Metsita is not an integrable
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  part of the Mila Hala Hala Moshe Mesena It is not.
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  That's what most assume it is only because of Sakana.
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  It is unclear. When did it start?
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  Was this from Moshe Rabinu? Was it from later on?
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  But it's not an integral part of the mitzvah of Mila, not most of
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  green, not There is an Indian of peak Kabbalah.
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  So maybe it is somewhat about it's more effective to use the
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  mouth to matech, to sweeten the denium and to remove the.
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  Clipos, but as far as. Halacha safer is concerned
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  halacha Mila generally we assume there is no halacha of metsitza
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  of sucking, It's only. Because it was.
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  Assumed if you leave the all the original blood there it would be
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  more dangerous. For the baby, it's safer to
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  have. Some of it removed sucked out
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  and it would help with right to remove to lessen the sukana for
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  the child and. It bleeds out, right?
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  It's actually interesting medically.
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  Sometimes it's not necessarily better, like a person gets a
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  wound or they're afraid they're get infected.
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  Sometimes it was medicine. I don't know, maybe it's a
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  debatable. Some say it's not better to.
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  Squeeze out blood so. I don't know.
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  Let's let's let's just. Read on.
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  So then Ricola mohel, sheno mozate sama aviri noto.
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  And the clear halakha is any mohel who does not do metsitza.
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  We remove him. It's Usser not to do Metsitza.
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  It's. Part of our masura for Sakana
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  and it's a very, it's an integral, integral.
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  Part of the of. The Bristol Mila it's not.
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  Necessarily halachically part of.
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  The mitzvah, the rights of doing a Bersmila.
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  But it's certainly part. Of.
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  Our masora and part of our masaras we anything that we
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  khazal say is mishum sakana. We are very mahmer to to keep to
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  it and not change our masora. OK, Vihar, we're going to
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  explain again a bit more. So.
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  The kola moel Sheena motetsum Avira notovia Harshim Matsat
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  after he sucks no teen alea asplanit then we put this
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  bandage. Gauze, whatever.
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  Or Attiya. Oh avak samim ha oatsriim ha dam
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  and then what? This.
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  Does is? You put on some powder and then
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  you. Close up shop you.
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  Put the bandage on and you put on the diaper.
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  So this is what's what's always. Done now, first of all, when it
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  comes to Mitsitza, normally Moline nowadays as far as I
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  know. They all rinse before.
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  They're told to rinse before. Usually they will do.
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  Either some kind of a Listerine rinse or something with
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  Chlorhexidine. Rinse for 30 seconds and spit it
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  out. Some write about having some
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  wine in your mouth. Dry better than sweet?
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  I don't know, ask your mole, but he does.
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  Some they have a little bit of wine in there, but obviously you
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  can't have much or you can't really suck.
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  Or some they have a drop of wine that spills out on the ever.
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  Before they they suck. And then, then they, then they
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  suck. It's hard to suck when you have.
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  Liquid in your mouth, so different mole in do different
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  stuff. But.
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  Certainly they should rinse out or brush their teeth, do
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  something along that floss, make sure their mouth is clean and
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  then they should do it. They don't have AIDS, make sure
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  they don't have any diseases. We're going to talk about that
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  in just a moment. Then many Marlene, they just put
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  on some powder. It's either an either for
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  anticoagulant, maybe for anti infection usually.
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  It's for to help. To stop the bleeding, as we see
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  over here, they can also It also helps or some, some put some
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  kind of iodine or some or a Neosporin, some kind of an
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  antibacterial cream. I know it's different.
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  Do they put it on the bandage and they put it on different
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  volume, do different things now usually?
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  They just use a. Regular bandage, but sometimes
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  if. There's a worry about.
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  Too much bleeding, you know, some babies are more of a
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  bleeder than others. Sometimes.
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  It depends on the cut sometimes, and whatever the situation is,
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  sometimes they'll put on some kind of a surgical.
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  Cell. That's basically.
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  It's like a little bandage, but it's A to stop bleeding.
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  It's used for by by physicians or dentists and that helps to
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  stop the bleeding. So basically it's an
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  anticoagulant bandage and whatever's needed and anticoag.
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  It's not an antic. You want it to coagulate.
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  Oh, I did say anti anti bleeding, whatever you want it
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  to coagulate. Sorry.
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  Anyway, so that's what's used and in general with all
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  bandages, any time you put a dry bandage on a wound that's
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  bleeding, that's and you want to leave.
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  It there to stop the bleeding. That's usually a bad idea if you
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  do it just. Like that because then when you
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  come to remove it, it'll bleed on you.
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  It'll RIP it so. What's recommended is if you're
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  going to use a bandage to stop the bleeding, make it moist,
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  make it a little bit wet. Squeeze it all out.
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  I mean, that's just me talking as a dentist and so that it
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  doesn't stick. To it you put.
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  It where you want it to bleed and then this way you want to
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  remove it, it's not going to stick and cause problems.
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  Here the the powder. Can help for that.
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  The Neosporin can help for that. Often Moline will tell their.
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  Baby their. The child, the parents, the
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  child. Is to pour baby oil.
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  And that also is healthy and it keeps it so it's moist.
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  So this way when you remove the bandage, let's say they say.
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  After. After. 24 hours or whatever the
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  mole tells you. One or two days.
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  You remove the bandage, you change it.
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  I think they usually are 24 hours then you'd.
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  Make sure there's baby oil there.
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  So this way it's. Wet and so this way it won't
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  stick, but you want it wet really from the beginning.
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  At the very end it doesn't help as much as if it's wet from the
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  beginning, so they don't put the oil on right away.
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  For the first for the. 1st when the mole is there, he doesn't
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  put on oil right away. That's for later on every time
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  you're changing the bandage so it doesn't stick.
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  OK, right. OK, so we.
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  Discussed, that's what. They do now.
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  We mentioned the probe, the Mafri.
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  That's what separates it. And often, sometimes the
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  moweleum will use a mosquito or a hemostat.
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  Mosquito is just a very fine hemostat.
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  That's to take a clamp it. Looks like a scissor, but at the
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  edge it doesn't cut. It's just a clamp, so they use
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  that if they want to grab it. So usually some use it, some
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  don't use it, most will. Many will use it if there's only
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  like tissue tags that they need to hold onto, so it's more
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  difficult. But OK, so let's.
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  Talk about Milo. Priya Bevasahas SO1.
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  So do you want to have do you want to remove both levels of
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  skin at the same time, both the layers of skin at the same time,
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  the OR Mila and the orpriya? Or do you want to do it in two
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  different times with the same slice With the same slice?
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  So right. So the way we write in the show
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  Kanara, it's two separate actions and that's generally
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  been the custom for, you know, for it's generally been the
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  custom how it's always been done and therefore.
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  So. I'll tell you emotia on the
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  minority most if you read most, I'm not sure what most moelling
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  do. I think most moelling do it in
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  two steps. Most of the post scheme, they
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  say you should do it in two steps because that's the Mina
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  Gestrel. That's the only reason, MENA,
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  you saw. We see there's two steps and
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  there's an engine to use your nail, a pea.
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  Kabala, whatever. So that's.
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  It's brought down for example, in You Be a Omer, Your Idea,
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  Helix, Zion, Kafbet and Shevat Halevi.
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  Just two random sources. But again, many speak about it
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  and in most circles that's generally the most post skim.
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  That's generally what's recommended.
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  However, there are some who do recommend to do it all at once
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  and for example in Egress Moshe Iridea hey and in Gilmouth
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  Sadiqat he double downs and he says it again.
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  That he holds it's. It's 100% la Catrilla.
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  To do it bevas akhas. How do you do bevas?
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  Akhas, you make sure you use that probe and you separate the
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  entire oramila from the very from all the way down to the
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  sulcus completely, all the way down, and then you'll be able to
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  pull the whole thing together. Because if the prea is
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  separated. From the glands, from the atara.
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  Then you'll be able just to pull the whole thing all at once, and
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  then it helps to use that hemostat.
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  So you grab it all. The way down and then you pull.
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  Right to where the sulcus is. And then you know.
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  Exactly where you are. You can also use a pen mark.
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  But this is. This is the.
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  Best way to hold it and to get it all the way down if you want
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  to do 1 cut and be done without any tissue tags to remove.
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  I mean, there's often a. Little bit of tissue.
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  Tags to remove. You want it to look better
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  depending on the case, sometimes I don't know, but so anyways,
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  you grab the whole thing and then you do one slice.
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  So that's egress. Moshe writes It's Mucho la
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  Chakila and there the now some even some even point out there's
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  a Chuva of Rav Haigon. That says this was the.
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  Custom in bavel and bavel that everyone used to do.
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  But it. Was the custom again sometimes
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  when you see. The word the.
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  Custom is emotion. I had a little anyways, many
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  times when people write the custom, it means that's one of
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  the customs. It is a custom, it's done.
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  Maybe the minority of the time doesn't matter.
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  But it is. Such a custom and people
• 19:43
  sometimes write. This is a custom.
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  OK. But if I go and say this is a
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  custom, I would assume usually most yeah, to do the whole thing
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  with Vasahas and some want to say maybe it's not.
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  Really, it's a zealf. It's not really his and Ramosha,
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  and Ramosha writes in there. I'm sure it's the real thing.
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  It's the ruler of Haigon, and he wrote it.
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  Why? Because I found, according to
• 20:04
  Ramosha, that Rushalmi says that was the Minogue.
• 20:07
  To do with Bhavasakhas. So Diego's Moshe says there's no
• 20:10
  reason not to. It's clearly mutter la khatila
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  and that is the custom. That that that used.
• 20:16
  To be the custom among the Jews, and according to the Rushalmi
• 20:19
  and Rav Haigon and. When you see the.
• 20:22
  Postgame, who discussed that it's a new manhunt to do it all
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  at once. It's never been done before.
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  They they. The postgame don't discuss this
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  Rafaigaon and this Yuri Shalmi. So that's just an interesting
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  note. OK, but most molem will make
• 20:35
  sure they even if they do the they do a probe to remove.
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  I don't say most many molem. Also, a lot of this depends a
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  little bit if you're in the more.
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  The Shivash Khareti circles. Or the more modern orthodox.
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  Or certainly if you're doing Bristol for non from our
• 20:51
  families. So the you know, how can change
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  a little bit. But anyways, the if you want to
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  make sure you leave some Priya behind, either you don't do a.
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  Probe at all or you do it, let's say halfway or partial way.
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  So this way you remove some of it helps and then you have less.
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  To to. Remove.
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  Secondarily with the with. Your nail afterwards.
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  Can you use this? Probe on Shabbos we're going to
• 21:13
  get to. Shabbos later, but.
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  Can you use this probe on Shabbos?
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  So some say it's it's on the level of a hexter mitzvah, it's
• 21:21
  not necessary and and the ister is it might.
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  Cause bleeding because. Depending on how carefully you
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  put it in and how how much it's stuck so it might cause
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  bleeding. So some post schemes say it's
• 21:35
  better not to. I think most.
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  Say. A lot say that it's mutter la
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  khatila as long as you're careful and do it gently because
• 21:44
  then it's no longer a secretia. Again, it depends on your hands
• 21:48
  if it's obsok ratia or not. But hopefully it's not obsok
• 21:50
  ratia and therefore it's OK. And I even saw as pointed out by
• 21:56
  I think it's Rabba Bhagya. That he quotes.
• 21:59
  Toastfels right and interesting sheeta we don't usually.
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  Follow it, Lahallah Khalis. Not by.
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  Itself is that ibsek? Ratia Dolani Khalil, it's Sarah.
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  Mitzvah is mutter. Usually we say 1 to tipsic
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  Ratia. It's 100% user, maybe only the
• 22:13
  Rabanan but we say not to do it. But anyways.
• 22:17
  Here it's he just. That was just.
• 22:19
  As an added sniff. But really you do it carefully
• 22:22
  and usually it's not going to be obscene ratio.
• 22:24
  Even if it were obscene ratio. If it's obscene ratio, we will
• 22:29
  hold. Some would say it's ASER and
• 22:33
  because we don't follow that toast.
• 22:34
  That's usually like. As a as A1 dayer, it's a It's
• 22:37
  not. The halacha by itself.
• 22:39
  And so then it might be a problem unless you consider it.
• 22:43
  Part of the Mila. Process so we know that Mila is.
• 22:46
  Doca Chavez. So that's.
• 22:47
  We're talking about the probes. I wanted just to mention right
• 22:49
  now, even during the. Week, you should be careful not
• 22:52
  to. Process the right.
• 22:54
  Let me finish the haggah and then the one last topic I might
• 22:57
  say today is Mitsita. But we learned you have to do is
• 23:00
  sucking with Mitsita. Bepeh, that was to.
• 23:03
  Suck, try to suck some blood out.
• 23:05
  The question is, can you do it not with a Peck.
• 23:08
  Can you use a sponge or can you use a glass tube?
• 23:11
  So let me just finish the Haggah and we'll see if I mention that
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  quickly today. Hagar via nitar inyesh laspanit
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  Safa shahanu lahoots veloli fenim Shiloh dabira macavia
• 23:22
  volli de sakana. So he's just saying they had
• 23:25
  this bandage. With its if it's folded.
• 23:27
  Over you have like maybe a little bit of esteem.
• 23:30
  What's what's it called a hem or something like that.
• 23:33
  You want to just make sure that's on the outside, not the
• 23:34
  inside because then it can get stuck, it can cause damage or
• 23:37
  make a bleed, it can cause infection.
• 23:39
  So we don't really usually have that, but also when you fold
• 23:43
  over your bandage, whatever, I don't know.
• 23:45
  OK, so that's the Rama. Let me just mention it.
• 23:47
  Real Bikitzer, Mitsitza. Bishwa ferret.
• 23:50
  That's a big. Topic in the post game and a
• 23:53
  lot's been written on it. I'll just.
• 23:55
  Say like this. Again, most hold Metsitza is
• 23:59
  only because of Sakana and the. First, who wrote?
• 24:03
  About it the most I think famous to and to say that it's mutter
• 24:08
  not to use Metsitza. The pet.
• 24:11
  The concept of Mesita is brought down that I'm not even.
• 24:15
  Sure, where the pet? Actually with the mouth first
• 24:18
  starts, I mean that's how it was done.
• 24:20
  I'm not sure where that's first mentioned.
• 24:22
  Certainly Mesita having some kind of a second motion has
• 24:26
  always been is the icar and that's what's always been
• 24:28
  mentioned and it's just. To draw out blood.
• 24:31
  So the custom sofa. Is the first to.
• 24:34
  Write that it's similar not to do it with your mouth.
• 24:37
  You can even just use a sponge and so.
• 24:41
  OK, so who? Else holds like that, so the
• 24:46
  the. So the custom sulfur?
• 24:48
  They asked. There was a.
• 24:49
  Disease at the time and they asked the custom sulfur.
• 24:51
  What should we do? And he said don't use your
• 24:53
  mouth, use a sponge. So his there's he has 2 tone
• 24:57
  medium. Now this, this Chuva, I'm not
• 25:01
  sure. Who?
• 25:02
  Why it's also a? Question.
• 25:03
  It wasn't in his main. Chuvas It was kept outside, but
• 25:07
  his. Children they all testify that
• 25:09
  it's an accurate chuva from the Qasim Sulfur's talmedium he has
• 25:12
  two main two of his main talmedium were was the Maram
• 25:15
  Sheikh and he says that qasim sulfur was only harat sha to
• 25:19
  never be used again and because the MENA gets to use the mouth
• 25:23
  and the. Yad al Azhar.
• 25:26
  It says no, no, that's. Lakhakila to use a.
• 25:28
  Sponge and it's brought down in the beer.
• 25:31
  Halakha that it. Seems to it seems and I and I
• 25:35
  even saw some. Quote like the this.
• 25:37
  Talmeter, the son-in-law quote. That he did.
• 25:41
  Say that it was much to. Do it with a.
• 25:44
  Sponge and it doesn't have to be with your mouth.
• 25:46
  So beer lakh in the beginning of Shin Lama.
• 25:48
  Olive he quotes 2. Opinions, but it's Mashma.
• 25:51
  It's a it's Lakhakila. You can do whatever you want.
• 25:54
  Either way it works. And so who?
• 25:58
  Allows it so the. Point is right, who so some of
• 26:02
  the ones who are. I will say it's most post
• 26:04
  scheme, at least the written post scheme and certainly in the
• 26:08
  more. Yeshivish circles.
• 26:09
  Haredi circles. Are going to say.
• 26:11
  It's. It's against the minhub and it
• 26:13
  should not be done unless the mohel himself knows he's not so
• 26:19
  safe. He might have herpes.
• 26:20
  He might have a. Disease or you're afraid the
• 26:22
  baby has a disease. And that also depends on, you
• 26:26
  know, you don't know who you know, depends maybe on the
• 26:28
  families. So generally speaking, they will
• 26:31
  usually say you should only. Use you should you.
• 26:34
  Should not use a tube. Or a gauze.
• 26:37
  What most do that are that don't use their mouth.
• 26:41
  Directly. They'll use a tube, not a
• 26:42
  sponge, or they'll use a tube with a sponge inside.
• 26:46
  But you see blood comes out, there's suck in motion.
• 26:48
  You put it all the way over and the blood comes out.
• 26:51
  You see that but anyways. But at some point now you have
• 26:55
  to make sure you put it on all the way.
• 26:56
  Whatever. So that you're actually.
• 26:58
  You're not just getting blood by touching it, you want there to
• 27:00
  be some slack in lotion, but generally so so Most written
• 27:04
  post game will say it's better to do Mitsita the pen, not with.
• 27:08
  A tube, but. Whenever there's a Kashash
• 27:12
  sakana so then they say it's mutter and again it depends
• 27:16
  which. Every tube was a little bit
• 27:18
  different. You see their.
• 27:18
  Wording. Some are more vehement against
• 27:21
  only using their mouth and not a tube and some are like well it's
• 27:24
  better that's our minhug, but that is more the the majority of
• 27:28
  the opinion. For example, we mentioned the
• 27:31
  Maram Sheikh Alva Nazer Binioncia and Khazani Cheva de.
• 27:34
  Levi al Kutiosi Reviliashi. Vashama Zamanara Bachli.
• 27:37
  I'll say it's better not to use a glass.
• 27:40
  Tube who says? It's much rather Katila to use a
• 27:42
  glass tube. So the RCA Rabbinical Council of
• 27:46
  America, that's Ravshahter and Nafeshkheim and Nafeshkrav.
• 27:50
  I mean, and he writes that also the shame the Rav and the Rav's
• 27:55
  family, the Brisker Rav, Rav Haim Salivacic or Moshe
• 27:58
  Salivacic, they were all known to only use a tube, not they
• 28:02
  wouldn't let them to use the PE. You mentioned the Adel Lazar,
• 28:07
  you mentioned the Burelaka, Ravel Khan, Inspector SVI, Pesta
• 28:12
  Krunk and Hart SVI a couple. Other sources less.
• 28:16
  Not so much postgame, but still. Korbarak de Pharisisrel.
• 28:20
  They're the ones who say it's Sumatra la Kakila for a Moshe.
• 28:25
  I did not find out. I did not see and I couldn't.
• 28:29
  I didn't find out in time. I asked her of Meiselman.
• 28:33
  I asked her of Meiselman. He said the minnag by all the
• 28:36
  Briskers nowadays in salvage is to use Metis to prepare for the
• 28:41
  ones who live in Israel because Mashauna Malcolm, this is the
• 28:45
  menage of Malcolm And so that's. What they do?
• 28:48
  He didn't want to get into the history, his family history or
• 28:51
  going back to Europe or America, but that's that's the custom.