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Dexter Fowler on Commish Ambassador Role, Differences between Rockies/Astros/Cubs/Cardinals/Angels · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: We're on baseball, so I understand that.
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  Speaker 2: But there's two sides doing this.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think you have to pick a side.
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  Speaker 1: You don't.
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  Speaker 3: But the sides keep getting farther and farther apart.
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  Speaker 4: They do, and it's up to us to keep bringing
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  Speaker 4: them back. Let's let's help bring him back.
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  Speaker 5: Dexter Ballard is here? What's up?
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  Speaker 2: The first time I feel short in here?
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  Speaker 5: I think a little Probably.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely lowered yours a little bit. That's how
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  Speaker 2: we fit.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're good. That's why they set it up like this.
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  Speaker 6: Actually a j what six four?
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  Speaker 7: I have a long tour, so though I got long legs,
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  Speaker 7: that's why you look short.
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  Speaker 1: Us together would be crazy, Yeah, would be like six eight?
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  Speaker 5: Right? What do you want to do? How's life?
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  Speaker 2: Life is great?
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  Speaker 5: You're busy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm very busy. I'm very busy, juggling three companies and
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  Speaker 4: just you know, staying busy, but also a good busy
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  Speaker 4: because you know, I'm sure we talked about it last night.
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  Speaker 1: But the commissions that answer stuff, so I'm all over
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  Speaker 1: the place.
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  Speaker 5: What are you telling them?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? What are they telling me?
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  Speaker 5: It's a question what are they telling you? And what
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  Speaker 5: do you want.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the changes of the game have
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  Speaker 4: been great coming in. It's good because the commission ambassador stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Rob kind of he kind of bounced the stuff off
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  Speaker 4: of us, which is which is awesome, and we can
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  Speaker 4: kind of give our input and I think it's it's taken.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen I was gonna say, did you talk
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  Speaker 2: to Hi about the comments you made the other day?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you saw him clearly, you saw what he said.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, kind of he kind of just said, Hey,
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  Speaker 7: the players should not listen to Union, they should listen
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  Speaker 7: to me.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I get that. I get that.
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  Speaker 4: Ross smart guy and Rob, you know, he's confident. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's what he says. That's what he That's what he means.
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  Speaker 8: The stuff that you've talked to him about, like we
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  Speaker 8: were talking about last night, how you like he's a good.
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  Speaker 2: Listener, Like he actually listens. What what do you what
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  Speaker 2: do you feel like is.
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  Speaker 8: The biggest change that like he brought something up and
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  Speaker 8: you're like, don't do that in a sense of like
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  Speaker 8: or something moving forward that you feel like he can
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  Speaker 8: institute based on the fact that he has players, he
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  Speaker 8: has guys, other ambassadors in his in you know, in
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  Speaker 8: his pocket that he can help.
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  Speaker 4: Well. The thing about it is is, if you look
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  Speaker 4: at it, it's not just one thing, like the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he has a good group of guys that can
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  Speaker 4: actually know that that know the game well, that have
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  Speaker 4: been in the trenches, and he can bounce stuff off
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  Speaker 4: of good, bad or ugly, but we can have a
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  Speaker 4: conversation about it and there's no ulterior motive.
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  Speaker 8: Do you think do you think that group that needs
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  Speaker 8: to be around him needs to have a good dissection
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  Speaker 8: of representation of X players in a sense of everybody
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  Speaker 8: undred million, one hundred million, hundred million, hut and then
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  Speaker 8: there's but there's only like ten percent of dudes ever
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  Speaker 8: make that kind of money in the game. Do you
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  Speaker 8: think he needs to be able to listen to dudes
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  Speaker 8: that are a year and a half, three years in
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  Speaker 8: the big leagues, full five years, guys that are getting
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  Speaker 8: like minor league deals.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, But at the same time, like the guys that
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  Speaker 4: we do have on cap, they're actually respected by the
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  Speaker 4: younger guys. So it's up to us to go and
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  Speaker 4: actually bounce that off of them. Because if Rob were
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  Speaker 4: to come in and talk to him, then it's something
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  Speaker 4: like it's they're never gonna say anything. It's like when
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  Speaker 4: the GM comes in, you're just like right, But if
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  Speaker 4: if a veteran player comes.
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  Speaker 1: And speaks to you, you're gonna give your opinions. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk to about it.
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  Speaker 4: And we also, it's not one of those things where
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna go tell him exactly what they said.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna dumb it down or make it.
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  Speaker 4: We have tact so we're gonna go and do that
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  Speaker 4: and say what needs to be said and what changes
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  Speaker 4: would help the game, and Rob taking from there.
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  Speaker 3: The My question was a former player, what side are
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  Speaker 3: you on?
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  Speaker 7: Because because you work for the commissioner and then so
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  Speaker 7: Rob's giving you his side, but then Tony and the
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  Speaker 7: Union side, we're.
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  Speaker 1: On baseball side.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that, but but there's two sides to it,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think you have to pick a side, don't.
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  Speaker 3: But the sides keep getting farther and farther apart.
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  Speaker 4: Items they do, and it's up to us to keep
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  Speaker 4: bringing them back. Let's let's help bring him back because
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  Speaker 4: we have, like you said, most work.
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  Speaker 2: For the union and try to get through the other
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  Speaker 2: side to come to you.
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  Speaker 1: We are us going to talk to players? Is working
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  Speaker 1: with the union? Right, Like we're everywhere.
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  Speaker 7: You just said though you're giving, you're you're selling the
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  Speaker 7: commissioner side to the players.
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  Speaker 2: That's your job.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't ever said that. I never said I was
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  Speaker 4: selling them. I said I we're going to get up.
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  Speaker 4: So we're forming basically our own opinions on what is
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  Speaker 4: going on and giving honest feedback to Rock about the
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  Speaker 4: player side, about you know, even the management side. He
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  Speaker 4: comes to us and we're like, hey, that's probably not
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  Speaker 4: gonna work.
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  Speaker 8: Can we do it? Can we get where it's closer?
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  Speaker 8: Because look at the leagues that they're closer.
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  Speaker 6: Players for sure, they're way closer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what it takes, Like you said,
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  Speaker 4: it's in everything, it takes two sides, right, It takes
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  Speaker 4: two sides. It takes whether that's the owners, whether that's Rob,
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  Speaker 4: whether that's the players, to come up with something that
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  Speaker 4: brings us closer. Right, And as always we're always polarized
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  Speaker 4: on each side. It's equated to politics. It's like you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're far left and we're far right, and it's just
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  Speaker 4: like there would be perfect if we could find good
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  Speaker 4: things from both sides.
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  Speaker 1: And let it go. In a perfect world, how often
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  Speaker 1: do you talk to you?
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  Speaker 7: How often does your group talk to Tony clarks group.
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  Speaker 1: Their group or players? Because we talked to players.
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  Speaker 2: Is different because you go in the clubhouses and you talk.
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  Speaker 1: But that's part of that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean players, the player side of things and not
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  Speaker 4: like the players association side of things, like not the
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  Speaker 4: business side of things. But the players are gonna give
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  Speaker 4: you the honest feedback right with no alterior motive. And
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  Speaker 4: I get that, like even we've been I've been on
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  Speaker 4: both sides. I've been a rep and to see that.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, like you gotta
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  Speaker 4: Ceci Sabbathia, you gotta Chris Young, you got Jimmy Rollins,
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  Speaker 4: Like these guys can go in and talk to the
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  Speaker 4: young guys and they respecting the young guys enough to
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  Speaker 4: ask them their opinion. And we and we are the
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  Speaker 4: vehicle that could go tell, but not in not a
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  Speaker 4: sense and like I'm gonna go tell everything that happened.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go tell what the guys want and let's
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  Speaker 4: figure out if we can mesh this all together. It
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  Speaker 4: varies it, I mean, it could go from travel to
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  Speaker 4: draft to I mean you talk we talk about everything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you two.
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  Speaker 4: Little league, like perfect game, like you youth baseball, like
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  Speaker 4: it's it's not just it's all encompassing. It's not just
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  Speaker 4: one thing like we're we're hammering one thing. It's just like,
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  Speaker 4: what do guys want?
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  Speaker 2: Would you tell them?
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  Speaker 7: But then do you tell the players what the what
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  Speaker 7: the commissioner wants?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, we'll see if like, hey, would that work? You think?
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  Speaker 1: Like would you like that? Yes, it's no, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not up to us.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry when you finish, No, but it's not it's not
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  Speaker 4: up to us to go to them and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know what these guys want this like make it happen.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's about like, hey, what do you what do
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  Speaker 4: you think about this? It's a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a demand.
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  Speaker 7: Do you ever think like because you were a player
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  Speaker 7: rep and now you're working for the commissioner, you kind
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  Speaker 7: of switch sides. I don't know because I wasn't a rep,
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  Speaker 7: because I would have been just started screaming, right, negotiations
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  Speaker 7: and I would have just started screaming like you're an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: We don't look at it like that.
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  Speaker 4: We look at it as we're trunning out the game, like,
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  Speaker 4: and I think all of us, the pedigree we have
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  Speaker 4: in the in the cap program, like, we understand that
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  Speaker 4: there's two sides. We understand that this is a business
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  Speaker 4: and we're not trying to get into the mostly the
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  Speaker 4: business aspect of it. We're trying to get into making
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  Speaker 4: the game better for everybody can grow.
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  Speaker 5: An example. Yeah, So one example is coming up.
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  Speaker 6: Why is the MLB Draft Sunday night, in the midst
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  Speaker 6: of All Star Week getting totally overblown by everything else
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  Speaker 6: going on during that time period when it should be
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  Speaker 6: in Omaha? And at one point when I worked at
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  Speaker 6: the league, they were right there, and then I.
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  Speaker 5: Think COVID messed it up. Yes, COVID messed it up.
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  Speaker 5: They had a deal. I'm like, can you call them
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  Speaker 5: again because that would be sick.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't have the answer to that, but tell them, yeah, wow,
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  Speaker 4: what do you.
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  Speaker 6: Think, Like, do you I don't know how locked in
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  Speaker 6: you are in the draft doesn't matter about the players.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think that our draft should be bigger and
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  Speaker 6: in a spot where everyone's looking at the top college
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  Speaker 6: players already?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean you look at all that and
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  Speaker 4: it's timing right, because you got guys now like College
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  Speaker 4: World Series, they want to do this, the draft combine,
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  Speaker 4: they want to do all this stuff. So I remember
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  Speaker 4: when I was when I graduated, I got drafted, it
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  Speaker 4: was June seventh.
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  Speaker 1: Right now we're whole months after that.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I think with media and you got
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  Speaker 4: guys like you can now go in and see on
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  Speaker 4: the technology that we have, Like, so I think there's
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  Speaker 4: more going into the game and analytics wise that they
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  Speaker 4: had to move it back, and it's so close to
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  Speaker 4: the season, like this is the place where kind of
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  Speaker 4: everybody can go and you know, really bring their guys
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  Speaker 4: to draft.
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  Speaker 8: What's the one what's the one thing that you're like,
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  Speaker 8: we got We've gotta be able to do this to
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  Speaker 8: sell the game, make the whole game get better as
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  Speaker 8: a as a marketing thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think our players like they like we
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  Speaker 4: need to be you know, you see the NBA stuff
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  Speaker 4: all over like media wise like and I mean you've
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  Speaker 4: got guys like Mookie Beds, Aaron Judge, I mean, show
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  Speaker 4: Hay is all over the place, but even try when Troty,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Trouty, like having him like to be the
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  Speaker 4: face of the game, Like we need to push that
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  Speaker 4: more so we're more visible.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't hear from them often, aside from like
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  Speaker 6: the two minute post game and the right.
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  Speaker 5: Rookie is in another category.
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  Speaker 6: He's all over, he's super out there, he's doing interviews,
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  Speaker 6: he's hosting shows.
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  Speaker 5: The other guys, I feel like you never hear from them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's tough because I mean even when I
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  Speaker 4: was playing, it's like you're on Instagram, you're on your
• 11:31
  Speaker 4: your your whatever avenue you use, and it's kind of getting.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of gotten, like you get to look down
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  Speaker 4: upon like if you're not playing well, like why are
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  Speaker 4: you on you know what I'm saying, Like there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of that, like and I think, like other sports,
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  Speaker 4: they don't really care, like the owners and all that,
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  Speaker 4: they don't care. And uh, I think we need to
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  Speaker 4: be more open to you know, opening our lives up
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  Speaker 4: for everybody so people can get to know us.
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  Speaker 2: But my thing is is I don't think MLB does
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  Speaker 2: a good job.
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  Speaker 7: They've gotten better, but they don't do a good job
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  Speaker 7: of encouraging guys to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And you're on the commissioner's players side.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's another side of thing, right, Like there needs to.
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  Speaker 7: Be people out there telling players from both sides. Hey,
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  Speaker 7: you need to do more interviews. You need to I
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  Speaker 7: do national games.
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  Speaker 2: Every Saturday. I walk into the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 7: There's not one player in the clubhouse, and they're like,
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  Speaker 7: you get twenty minutes to talk to players and you
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  Speaker 7: stand there and there might be one guy in there.
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  Speaker 7: There needs to be a five minute window where you
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  Speaker 7: have to be in your locker. Other sports do it.
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  Speaker 7: Football does it five minutes. Give me five minutes a day.
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  Speaker 7: And if I get five minutes, and you know what,
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  Speaker 7: if I can only talk to dexter foul or I
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  Speaker 7: miss aircrafts because that five minutes is up, then I
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  Speaker 7: have to wait till tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: But instead, like we did a thing.
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  Speaker 7: That we did a thing in spring training and listen,
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  Speaker 7: I know players are going to complain about that, but
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  Speaker 7: it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Five minutes.
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  Speaker 7: You got to answer question for five minutes the whole day.
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  Speaker 7: It's not a big deal. Now, if you're the starting pitcher,
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  Speaker 7: you get a pass right because you're pitching that dack.
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  Speaker 7: But like we go into places in spring training. I
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  Speaker 7: go into places here and there's reporters are trying to
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  Speaker 7: get to talk to players and they only get a
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  Speaker 7: little bit of time. The player never is in there.
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  Speaker 7: And there was one I'm not gonna use who it was,
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  Speaker 7: but there's a national reporter trying to talk to a
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  Speaker 7: certain player and the team's like, yeah, we're not gonna
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  Speaker 7: help you. We're not gonna help you talking this is
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  Speaker 7: a star player. No, we're not going to help you
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  Speaker 7: talk to this person.
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 7: He doesn't really want to do the interview. Okay, But
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  Speaker 7: we're trying to promote the game. We're trying to help
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  Speaker 7: the player, we're trying to make more people fans.
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  Speaker 2: But then the same time.
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  Speaker 7: The teams and the way it's set up doesn't help
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  Speaker 7: promote anybody because all you gotta do is go hide
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  Speaker 7: in the training room for that thirty minutes with the
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  Speaker 7: reporters there and you never have to talk to him.
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  Speaker 1: But then after the game you leave earlier, you talk out.
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  Speaker 4: But that's a conversation that should be had, right, Like,
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  Speaker 4: this is honest feedback, and there's a conversation that could
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  Speaker 4: be had. And that's I mean, we could do that,
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  Speaker 4: like that's not out there. You know, it's nothing crazy.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I get some people don't like to talk,
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  Speaker 7: but it's also kind of part.
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  Speaker 1: Of your just seem like you use that move.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I was always I always talked.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he knew it. I would yea.
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  Speaker 5: Where you saw people.
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  Speaker 1: That all the time.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, stay in the training room or in the
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  Speaker 7: food room until the reporters have to be out. Like
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  Speaker 7: I'm gonna make dudes wait for like over an hour
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  Speaker 7: and they're guys like hey, he's like, no, I'm not talking.
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  Speaker 2: Then you know, reporters pissed and bad story.
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  Speaker 4: No at the end of the day, Like, I do
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  Speaker 4: feel like there should be that aspect of it, right
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  Speaker 4: And because like I said, I was a big proponent
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  Speaker 4: of I had a bad game, good game, I'm waiting
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  Speaker 4: around like and then I'm leaving when hey, you guys
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  Speaker 4: got anything out. But to mandate that, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: a conversation that could be at for sure, And that's
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  Speaker 4: what that's that's what we were talking about last night.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's conversations like just let's sit down and
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  Speaker 4: have a conversation, sit out across from each other, have
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  Speaker 4: a conversation, not a negotiation conversation.
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: Compare the Rockies to the Cubs, to the Cardinals to
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: the Angels.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Wow, it's a hell of a comparison, right, Rockies, you
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: forgot the Astros.
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: That's a good one too.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: That was a team, you know what.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: The trajectory of my career, I feel like I learned
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: a lot from being because we had good years and
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: we had bad years. With the Rockies, underachieved and we're
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: right where we needed to be. And then I went
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: to the Astros and that was their second year. They'd
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: come off losing one hundred and twenty games, and a
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: bunch of young guys.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Springer just got called up.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, al Tuo Bay was still young like, and
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I was kind of one of the vets there. And
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: so I feel like that kind of both sides kind
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: of helped me when I went to the Cubs, because
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: you know, you go through all these things, right, you
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: go through the ups and downs of baseball, and you see,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: you know, you got teammates like Jason Gionbi, you got
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: teammates like Todd Helton, you know, and then you go
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: to you know, you see the young guys coming up.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: So I was, they said, the glue guy. But like
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: I knew how to talk to both sides because I
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: had been there. I I've been through every situation, good
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: and bad. So going into that clubhouse and you have
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: a good mix, I mean, it was a recipe for success.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: And then leaving there and going to the Cardinals after
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: we've won, they were kind of trying to make their
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: way back, and also, you know, at the same time,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: there was a sense of urgency, so knowing that side
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: of things as well. Like you know, you get in
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: a clubhouse and you got a yadi Ara Molina, you
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: gotta you know Adam Wayne Wright, who like they've come
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: up in this organization and you know, and you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: just trying.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: To not fit in.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: But I mean, this is their environment, so just trying
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: to learn their environment. So it was a learning process
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: from my first two years there, just getting to know guys.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: And I tell people all the time, I would be
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: remissed if I came in and helped just try to
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: change things.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Immediately.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: I had to take a step back and kind of
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: see exactly what was going on in the locker room
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: on the field and try to make an honest assessment
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: to myself and try to plug myself in a where
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: any way I could help. And then going to the
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Angels with the manager that I've had that I respect,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: going there and being able to play alongside show Hey
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: and chay Up and Albert.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I mean we had a squad rendon.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Try to try to of course, but just going in
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: that locker room and seeing all the vets in there,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: it was definitely a change of pace. Only played seven games,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: so I got tore my a cl so, but I
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: mean that was kind of the long answer.
• 17:56
  Speaker 8: But of the comparison, how did you know what you
• 18:00
  Speaker 8: found out when you went to the Cardinals. If the
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: same offer was out there for the same contract somewhere else,
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: would you have gone to an organization that maybe needed
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: because they were kind of like set veteran, We just
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: want you to come in and do exactly what you
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: did with the Cubs, right, which is hard to do.
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: It's hard to have freaking awesome years every year, right.
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: Would you have gone somewhere else that maybe it wasn't
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: as veteran leyden.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: As No, I would say they were close. I mean,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: at once you win, you want to keep winning, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: it's like they had the potential to win and my
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: time there was a cut short a year. But at
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I learned from every experience,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: So I don't regret any experience because that's kind of
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: helped me through life.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Like I was in you know, it's crazy. I mean,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: we talk about it.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I was in when I was in Saint Louis, I
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: went through depression and at the end of the day,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: like I realized something about myself and that maybe if
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I was on another team, I wouldn't have known that,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: and later on in life, I wouldn't have known how
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: to handle it. So I mean, I I don't take
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: anything from from that situation, all.
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: Right, Managers played for hurdle when you first came up,
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: and then there the whole time.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: You're in Colorado.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: No, he got fired my rookie year. And then who
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: followed Jim Tracy, Jim Tracy, okay, and was there the
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: whole time?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: No? Then yeah, then Walt Weis fired.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Then he he Then you left for Houston.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Was a bow the bow he got fired, Reaper, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: then you went to Joe to Joe, Joe was there
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: the whole time.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys won, and then fire Shill Fire, No,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: he was there.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: She was there.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You got fired, Yeah, I got ahem. Was Joe again
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: that year?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: No?
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I was there, you know he was. He was there
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: all year. He was there for two years after.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Joe is your favorite?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what? You know why I love Joe. Joe.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: He let us be us right, He didn't try to.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: He's hey, go be you be comfortable in your own skin.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I don't care if you want to how everyone address everyone,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: and just go play hard and be the player you're.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: There to be.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: And that I mean the confidence in us. I mean,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: you play harder for a guy that like has confidence
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: in you, right because you want to do like I
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: want to.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I want to help. This guy's been. He has my back.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what. I'm gonna run through this wall for.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Him you didn't have.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is you know. I'm not gonna name
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: any names. They know who they are.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: We got one more question, TV crowd going to breaks.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Two and a half two and a half.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I give you two and a half.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I think I think it too.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I give you two and a half.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Both get no, and we're not going to keep he Look, he's.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Gonna try to keep.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Cubs favorite moment besides wait, ask you one more time?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Cubs.
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: It's twenty sixteen favorite moment besides game winning, game winning.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: You know, I would say favorite moments because you know
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: what I loved about the Cubs. I mean, we talk,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: We talk about it all the time. Like when we
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: were like we had a suite, like in every city
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: we went, and all the boys after the game would
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: come to the suite and we would all hang out.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: We were literally brothers. Like we talk about the game,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: we would hang out, we play cards. Just we were
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: together all the time. And that's that's understated in different organizations,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: in different clubhouses, like you see guys like pictures hang
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: out with each other, position players hang out with each
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: other like Latin guys the exactly. But like we were
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: able to have conversations, We were able to sit down
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: every day and hang out, you know, at home obviously
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: we everybody was always invited everywhere, and I kind of
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: made that a point like that, you know, you can't exclude,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: like if we're going to dinner, everybody's going to dinner.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Invite everybody. If they say no, that's fine, but at
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: least they had they got the invite. The invites always
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: open to everybody who roster, the whole roster.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: That's cool.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: So like like stuff like that, and you really know, like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: all right, we're a real team.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Dogs just did that player plan. They said it was
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: huge playoffs, that's what you guys did.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: We did. So we did that. We had a meeting
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and my wife had brought it up to me.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: She goes, you know on the Wives trips, like y'all
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: always like you on family trips, wives trips.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: You're always like you always lose.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I said, yeah, because we're creatures of habit, right, And
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I said, So we had a meeting THEO and Jed
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: and all them brought everybody together, management and all the
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: veteran guys, and they were like, hey, what can we
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: do for the playoffs to set you guys up for success?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Owners were there and I.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Said, you know what, and I brought up that point
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: and I said, it would be nice, like we always
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: have an off day on we have an off day
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: on you know, playoff games before you go, right, And
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I said, why don't we fly as a team and
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: then our families can come in, but we can go
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: go to dinner together, really hang out and do stay
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: on our routine, go to practice, and when practice is there,
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: then the fans, I mean, the families can come in.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't even a second. It was like done.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: We never had a family trip, no, but people were like.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: People were like, but the wives are gonna be mad.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: They're not gonna be mad with when.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: The World Series White never had a fan.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: It'll be just fine. I