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Hawk Talk - Recapping Week 10: Seahawks at Rams · Hawk Talk

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Hawk Talk with former Seahawks wide receiver
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Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus after ten yard lives. Second to day three
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Speaker 1: wide receivers now in motion, has Pumpas left or right,
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Speaker 1: Julius Jones a single setback Matt Pumpfe's looking at the
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Speaker 1: goal line. He throws it into the end zone. Touchdown Seahawks.
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Speaker 1: It's Michael Bumpas with a diving catching the end zone.
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Speaker 1: Our ten yard touchdown reception for Pampas and the kid
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Speaker 1: out of Washington State has found himself a place on
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Speaker 1: this team. Powered by Seahawks dot Com. One of twelve.
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Speaker 1: This is Michael Bumps and this is Hawk Talk Recab edition.
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Speaker 1: The Seahawks fall to the Rams twenty three to six,
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Speaker 1: being not the result that we won a NASA chobe.
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Speaker 1: But before we get into everything, we're gonna start it
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Speaker 1: off like we usually do on a recab edition, going
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Speaker 1: into trenches with Ray Roberts. It's time to go inside
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Speaker 1: the trenches with former Seahawk Ray Roberts. Big Ray, what's
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Speaker 1: going on there? I'm just killing man, trying to uh
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Speaker 1: recover from that from that loss yesterday. Comfort laws. Aren't
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Speaker 1: we all first impressions when you think about this Seahawks
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Speaker 1: versus the Rams game, what's the first thing that comes
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Speaker 1: to mind? The first thing that comes to mind for me,
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Speaker 1: it's just just joint it. It just it just really
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Speaker 1: felt like there was no connectivity between the run game
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Speaker 1: and the pass game and the defense with the pass
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Speaker 1: rush and the past detection or descending the run, like
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Speaker 1: every nothing just seemed to mess well. Even though I
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Speaker 1: think the defense made some improvements, it just felt like,
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Speaker 1: uh like, I felt like I left the game with
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Speaker 1: a bunch of lego pieces on the ground and they
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Speaker 1: and they used to be like a ship or something,
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Speaker 1: and now there it's just all falling apart. They're just
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Speaker 1: different pieces on the ground. I'm trying not to step on.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I felt like last night when
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Speaker 1: I got home. I feel I feel you. Well, let's
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Speaker 1: let's talk about the matchup that I guess we were
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Speaker 1: looking at Kyle Philli versus Aaron Donald, the most dangerous
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Speaker 1: man in the NFL. How do you think he did
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Speaker 1: against that guy? You know, I think just in general,
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Speaker 1: the offensive line, uh did okay? If you look at
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Speaker 1: his stat line, Uh, he only had two quarterback hits
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Speaker 1: that was his That was his stat for the entire game,
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Speaker 1: although there were times where he got pressure, but he
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Speaker 1: wasn't getting pressure in a way that that he was
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Speaker 1: dominating the game. And I went back last night and
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Speaker 1: watched like the first quarter and a half or so
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Speaker 1: of the game, just ought to see where he was.
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Speaker 1: And they actually moved him around between over the center
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Speaker 1: and over both guards, and so I think they were
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Speaker 1: trying to work the rookie a little bit. They were
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Speaker 1: trying to work Kyle Fuller a little bit and isolate
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Speaker 1: him with Aaron Donald. And then they were also, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, trying to go at uh your potty because
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Speaker 1: of you know, just probably athletically, I think Prince Sprinth wise,
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Speaker 1: your potty matched up well, but athletically Aaron Donald had
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Speaker 1: to advantage. And from what I saw just in that
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Speaker 1: quarter and a half, so I mean, obviously you're not
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Speaker 1: gonna be perfect when you're blocking that dude, But but
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Speaker 1: they were doing a good enough job against him that
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Speaker 1: that you didn't feel like he was taken over and
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Speaker 1: dominate the whole game. All right. Now, the last three games,
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Speaker 1: four games have been a struggle when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the run game. Are we finally to a point where
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Speaker 1: people are going are starting to realize it's the importance
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Speaker 1: of having a guy like Chris Carson in the backfield. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: I think some of the decisions that are made are
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Speaker 1: not made in the run game has a lot to
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Speaker 1: do with Chris Carson. I think also they're missing the
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Speaker 1: passing elements of Chris Carson in the office because he
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Speaker 1: was you know, I think going into the season they
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Speaker 1: wanted to have like fifty targets to solder Chris Carson,
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Speaker 1: and they started out really well with using mixing him
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Speaker 1: up in the run game and screen game and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, getting him out into some routes and things
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Speaker 1: like that. There's other talents and gifts that he brings
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Speaker 1: to the table, but he also just brings like the
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Speaker 1: attitude and the confidence in the of the coaching staff that,
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Speaker 1: uh that they can do some different things in the
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Speaker 1: run game. And so as much as we'd like to
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Speaker 1: see uh this offense be aggressive with the ball and
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Speaker 1: scoring a bunch of points and things like that, I
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Speaker 1: think it has been to the detriment of the defense
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Speaker 1: for a struggling defense. On top of that, so I
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Speaker 1: think that there has to be if they can get
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Speaker 1: Chris Carson. As soon as they can get either Chris
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Speaker 1: Carson or Carlos hide back, I think it'll start to
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Speaker 1: stabilize the offense again. And then and then I think
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Speaker 1: they'll they'll either rely not rely on it, but mixed
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Speaker 1: in the running game and the passing game and blend
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Speaker 1: them together, versus saying, hey, we're a passing football team,
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Speaker 1: and then every now and again, we're gonna, you know,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball. I think Denny O'Neill did
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Speaker 1: a good job last night, you know, and his explanation
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Speaker 1: of it of back in the day us most of
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Speaker 1: the running team and then when you threw the ball,
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Speaker 1: you had to do damage when you're throwing the ball,
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Speaker 1: and now it's the reverse where uh, we're a throwing
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Speaker 1: team and and those opportunities when you run the ball,
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Speaker 1: you have to be able to do damage. And I
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Speaker 1: think the best chance to do that is with Chris Carson.
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Speaker 1: Now you talk about throwing the football, Obviously the Hawks
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Speaker 1: aren't throwing the football a lot more, and because of that,
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Speaker 1: Russell has been turning the ball over a lot more.
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Speaker 1: The last two or three weeks has been rough on him.
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Speaker 1: What are you seeing out of him? Are the corrections
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Speaker 1: that need to be made. I'm talking about Russells. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so when when I look at Russell Lakes, it's weird
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Speaker 1: because sometimes you just want him to take the yard. Issh,
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Speaker 1: that's there. So that may be the dump down to
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Speaker 1: the tight end and maybe the swing route to the
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Speaker 1: to the to the running back or maybe hey, like
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Speaker 1: everyone's we're trying to push the ball down the field
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Speaker 1: and that's a lot of space between me and the
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Speaker 1: next defender. Let me just go get those eight or
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Speaker 1: nine or ten yards and just keep the change moving. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And it's and it's really hard to ask Russell to
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Speaker 1: do that because he's so gifted it making place down
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Speaker 1: the field. But I think at this point, just to
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Speaker 1: stabilize the offense, not that you're saying not to be
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Speaker 1: aggressive with the ball and all that, but you have
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Speaker 1: to start taking what's there to keep the offense, you know,
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Speaker 1: ahead of the change, but then also give your defense
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to not be able to field so much,
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Speaker 1: keep the other offense off the field like those types
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Speaker 1: of things. And so I, you know, I have faith
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Speaker 1: and trust and rust that when he says that he's
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Speaker 1: going to make the right corrections, and he trust in
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Speaker 1: his process. His process has proven to be a very
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Speaker 1: good one and to be able to get him to
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Speaker 1: where he is in his life and in his career.
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Speaker 1: So I trust that he's going to make the necessary things,
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Speaker 1: the necessary changes to get the offense back on track
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Speaker 1: for from his perspective. And then I think to help that,
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's to lean on that offensive line in
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Speaker 1: the run game more. All right, big game coming up
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Speaker 1: on Thursday, Ray Arizona beats the Buffalo Bills in a
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Speaker 1: miracle play. To sell it, the last time the Hawks played,
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Speaker 1: Arizona got the best of them. One is how important
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Speaker 1: is this game? And two what do the Hawks need
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Speaker 1: to do to make sure they do not go on
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Speaker 1: three in their last three? Well, you know, we're having
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Speaker 1: this discussion last night on the on the post game show,
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Speaker 1: and uh, Paul Moyer was saying like, hey, you know,
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Speaker 1: like we're going into this game injured. They are not
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Speaker 1: as injured. Um, they're coming off a big, you know win,
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Speaker 1: and this may just have to do a loss that
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Speaker 1: we take, but we still have a chance to win.
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Speaker 1: You know, twelve of you know, twelve games, twelve of
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Speaker 1: thirteen games going down to stretch. And so the only thing,
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Speaker 1: the only problem I would have what that methodology is that, Um,
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Speaker 1: then that would mean that you're gonna you're you're willing
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Speaker 1: to lose three games in the row. And to me,
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Speaker 1: that says something that that says something else to the
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Speaker 1: team if they can't come out of here with a win, uh,
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Speaker 1: and then they're looking at a three game losing streak
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Speaker 1: when they started the season with a six games winning streaks,
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Speaker 1: I think that says something. I think that would have
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Speaker 1: something to do with the team, just from a mental perspective,
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Speaker 1: from a confidence perspective, from a even a confidence into
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Speaker 1: who we are and what we're doing. So it may
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Speaker 1: force people to then start trying to do things outside
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Speaker 1: of their abilities and capabilities and make the thing worse.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's important, just from a mental approach
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Speaker 1: and from a psychological approach with the team that they
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Speaker 1: find a way to win this game. It doesn't have
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Speaker 1: to be you know, Russell throwing the ball fifty times
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Speaker 1: or the defense shutting everything down. Just win the football game.
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Speaker 1: I think they just they just need to win a
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Speaker 1: football game. And it doesn't have to look pretty, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to have the best stats in the world.
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Speaker 1: The only stat they need to have is one more
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Speaker 1: point in Arizona when when the clock hits the triple zeros. Well,
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Speaker 1: I see the big Ray. The plus side is the
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Speaker 1: Hawks are undefeated at home, so let's make sure they
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Speaker 1: keep that going. Like always, Big Homing, I appreciate your time, Man,
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Man. And you know, I feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know, some people are kind of panicking it a
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Speaker 1: little bit around the program, but I don't think there's
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Speaker 1: any program panic. And Russell or Pete. Obviously there's concerned,
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Speaker 1: but there's not panic. Those are two different things, and
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Speaker 1: so I think they'll have a I think they'll start
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Speaker 1: to figure it out. It may not look like they're
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Speaker 1: figuring it out on Thursday, but I think they'll get
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Speaker 1: to figured out and finish the season. Stroll all you
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Speaker 1: hear from Big Raid folks, don't pat it. It's all
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Speaker 1: good things. Ray, All right, big dope, All right, NASA,
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Speaker 1: let's break this thing down. What happened? See what had happened?
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Speaker 1: At first? What had happened was unhard. What had happened
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Speaker 1: was oh my goodness. Well, the Seahawks lost their second
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Speaker 1: consecutive game in a Row dropping a game to the
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Speaker 1: Rams twenty three to sixteen. This is just a ninth
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Speaker 1: time in Russell Wilson's career the Seahawks have lost consecutive games.
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Speaker 1: Bump and man. I'll just start with this, man, The
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Speaker 1: Seahawks defense has taken a lot of heat this year,
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Speaker 1: a ton. We're talking about them every single week, and
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Speaker 1: sometimes it was deserved. But last night or yesterday when
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Speaker 1: Seahawks played the Rams, they absolutely did not lose because
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Speaker 1: of this defense. That was not the reason why the
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Speaker 1: losses football game. I mean, you look at the game
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Speaker 1: started this defense. Yes, they allowed two hundred fourteen yards
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Speaker 1: in the first half, and it took them while to
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Speaker 1: get going golf, and the Rams kind of went up
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Speaker 1: and down the field in the first couple of drives
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Speaker 1: and pretty much all those yards you're on two drives.
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Speaker 1: And after that second half the seas defense allow one
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards rest of the game and most
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Speaker 1: importantly just six just six points, one touchdown drive and
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Speaker 1: four three straight punts. So I'm gonna try to spin
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Speaker 1: it positive to start as we look back at this game,
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Speaker 1: because while the defense wasn't perfect, it was one of
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Speaker 1: their better games. Holding the Ramps, so only twenty three points,
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Speaker 1: and if old the team twenty two points, you're assuming
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks were score a lot more than that. And
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Speaker 1: when the football games out, it was really tough to
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Speaker 1: see that. Yesterday Now to me, it was the best
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Speaker 1: game of the year for this defense. You held the
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Speaker 1: teams to twenty three points under four hundred yards for
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Speaker 1: the first time all season. I want to believe the
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Speaker 1: only touchdown they got in the second half was off
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Speaker 1: of a bogus pass an appearance called DJ Reid. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how else he's supposed to play that football.
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Speaker 1: But the defense got better. The story is when they
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Speaker 1: don't win the turnover battle. This team doesn't win football games,
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Speaker 1: and they didn't win the turnover battle. Russell throws a
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Speaker 1: couple of picks, there's a fumble. It's reminiscent of last week.
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Speaker 1: We sat here and say, there's no way Russell's gonna
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Speaker 1: have a game like he had last week. Wasn't as bad,
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Speaker 1: but didn't take care of the football. It all has
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Speaker 1: to come together at the same time. And I'm being
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Speaker 1: optimistic and I think it's getting closer. You still have
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Speaker 1: three sacks against the Rams, the Rams had allowed ten
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Speaker 1: texts coming into this game. Jamal Adams had two and
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Speaker 1: I believe Puna or someone else had half the other one,
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Speaker 1: So there's a positive there. Offensively, we saw something we
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Speaker 1: haven't seen all this year. This is the first time
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Speaker 1: the Hawks were held under twenty seven points, the first time.
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Speaker 1: If the Hawks just play a regular game, and regular
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Speaker 1: Seahawks game, nothing spectacled, just what they've been doing. They
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Speaker 1: win this football game. After scoring a TV on the
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Speaker 1: opening drive. The rest of the seall drives were punt,
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Speaker 1: field goal, interception, field goal, pump pump, fumble, interception, field goal.
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Speaker 1: That don't look like se'all football. No, it's not good enough,
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Speaker 1: and it's it's really weird to see because this offense
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Speaker 1: is coming into the game was the number one scoring
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Speaker 1: office the NFL, averaging thirty four points a game, and
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Speaker 1: even games where they did turn the ball over, they'll
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Speaker 1: put up big numbers on offense. Um and like you said,
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Speaker 1: it's it's eternal battle um Pete. Carroll preaches it's all
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Speaker 1: about the football, and unfortunately this team has not looked
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Speaker 1: like themselves. Uncharacteristic seven turnovers on offense the past two weeks.
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Speaker 1: That's it's not a recipe for winning football games. Yep,
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Speaker 1: not the recipe and not great in the red zone.
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Speaker 1: That's something else that the Hawks are good at. They're
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Speaker 1: typically one of the best teams in the red zone.
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Speaker 1: I believe they were one for three in the red
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Speaker 1: zone in this game. You get down there, you gotta
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Speaker 1: get yourself some points. I now the offense in rack
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Speaker 1: up over three hundred yards and told offense seven for
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Speaker 1: fourteen on third down fifty percent. You kind of want
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Speaker 1: to be around sixty percent. But that's better than than
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Speaker 1: what we've seen. Um Now, let's talk about that fourth down. Goodness,
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Speaker 1: it's tearing Pete up and I'm I'm gonna go to
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Speaker 1: bat for Pete. I've seen this. Okay for the nitch,
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Speaker 1: say hey, just do a quarterback sneak. Last week Russell
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Speaker 1: got a quarterback sneak first time for a toun show.
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Speaker 1: Let's not forget you have Kyle Fuller, who's agreeing center
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Speaker 1: got Aaron don't know who's gonna be lining up in
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Speaker 1: one of the A gaps. They're gonna walk a linebacker
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Speaker 1: down and he's sinking ahead. Let's pump the ball, make
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Speaker 1: them go eighty yards to get this touchdown. If they don't,
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Speaker 1: if they go for they don't get it, they essentially
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Speaker 1: gave them the ball on the forty. Like Pete Carroll said,
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Speaker 1: that's a turnover. I would have went for it, But
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Speaker 1: I understand why Pete didn't go for Oh, no question
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Speaker 1: about it. And honestly, I have no idea why this
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Speaker 1: became such a huge talking point as if it costs
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks a football game. When we were listening to
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Speaker 1: his press conference yesterday, there's about four or five questions
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Speaker 1: in a row trying to essentially asking the same question,
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Speaker 1: just twisting their words differently. Here's the deal. Let's look
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Speaker 1: at the situation. Okay, the score was thirteen to seventeen Rams. Okay,
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Speaker 1: there's thirteen minutes in fourteen seconds remaining in the third quarter.
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Speaker 1: Now this was three minutes. If there's three minutes left
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Speaker 1: in the game, I can see maybe. Okay, the defense,
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Speaker 1: despite how they've played this year, had forced a fumble
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Speaker 1: in a punt on the previous two Rams possessions. The
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Speaker 1: ball was on the seahawks own four to two yard line,
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Speaker 1: and like Pete said this morning, if you don't get
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Speaker 1: it there, that is a turnover. Let's turnover and okay,
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Speaker 1: and then people will be doing the opposite thing and
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Speaker 1: they would be crushing Pete. If they went and scored
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Speaker 1: two plays later, they'd be like, what are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Why would you do that? Blah blah blah. So it's
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Speaker 1: just I don't understand it. And the rams that was
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Speaker 1: they score a touchdown on that drive, like we mentioned earlier,
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Speaker 1: aided by a nonsense past interference penalty, and that was
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Speaker 1: the only score they got in the entire second half.
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Speaker 1: I just don't understand. It was a one score game
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Speaker 1: literally thirteen minutes in the third quarter. It makes no sense.
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Speaker 1: And the fact that yes, so he challenged the spot, right,
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Speaker 1: people don't know all the other things going around, Like
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, we know where Aaron Donald's gonna line up.
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Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller played with a high ankle sprain. He was
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Speaker 1: just gutting his way through the game. So maybe Pete
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Speaker 1: Carroll said, took that into account and saying, hmm, maybe
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Speaker 1: our starting center who's gutting it through with a high
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Speaker 1: ankle sprain is not gonna move Aaron Donald off the
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Speaker 1: spot and we might not get this first down. There's
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Speaker 1: one and then the other thing too, is like teams
14:57
Speaker 1: do this all the time. You come back out on
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Speaker 1: the field, say hey, we're not going to run the play,
15:01
Speaker 1: but let's just see if they jump. Maybe they give
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Speaker 1: us a bone, right, And now people are like, why
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Speaker 1: would they do that, Like, there's just go for you
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Speaker 1: already lost your time. I just I can't. Honestly, I bump.
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Speaker 1: I can't. I'm okay with people thinking like, hey, man,
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Speaker 1: go for it, like you wanting Pete to be aggressive there.
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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. But people are around here are acting,
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Speaker 1: like Danny said this perfectly on the postgame show last night,
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Speaker 1: that Pete Carroll committed some coaching malpractice by not going
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Speaker 1: for it there. I mean, it's unbelievable. No, definitely not
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Speaker 1: the reason they lost the game. I know some twelves
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Speaker 1: are gonna disagree with me on that, but that's that's facts,
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Speaker 1: and you're never gonna convince me otherwise. The Seahawks lost
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Speaker 1: the game for a lot of reasons, and that decision
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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. Na I had nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with it. This is this is football. I've
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Speaker 1: seen this scenario a thousand times in my fifteen twenty
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Speaker 1: years of covering them playing football. Fourth and inches, you're
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Speaker 1: in your own territory, make them work, get the whole field,
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Speaker 1: You bring your offense out, you try to get them
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Speaker 1: to jump. Maybe they do. You get three yards. It's
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Speaker 1: almost like a dance that I've seen before. I know
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Speaker 1: this routine. I've seen this routine before. It's a standard
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Speaker 1: coaching right here. So people who are who are going
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Speaker 1: after Pete one, I don't really think you understand football.
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Speaker 1: I just don't think like this is this is like
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Speaker 1: you said, like Danny said, he didn't do any mouth practice.
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Speaker 1: This is a standard procedure when it comes to coaching. Now,
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Speaker 1: rolling the dice would be going for it and quarterback
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Speaker 1: sneaking it, and then, like you said, if he doesn't
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Speaker 1: get it, everyone's mad Pete what he's doing. He'll never
16:29
Speaker 1: be right to everyone in that situation. But guys who
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Speaker 1: will play the game and coach the game, they understand
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Speaker 1: what went down. Too much time on the clock, make
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Speaker 1: these guys march down the field, and if they didn't
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Speaker 1: get a PI call, they probably would have stopped him.
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Speaker 1: And Pete curls of genius. So hush the mouth. Let's
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Speaker 1: move on to playmakers. Playmakers, all right, First playmaker Alex Collins,
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Speaker 1: the new guy on the block, had eleven carros for
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Speaker 1: four y three yards and one touchdown, one reception for
17:06
Speaker 1: four yards. You look at the eleven carress for forty
17:08
Speaker 1: three and you don't think it's much, but it felt
17:11
Speaker 1: like when the ball was in his hands there was
17:14
Speaker 1: potential for a big run and he brought a feeling
17:18
Speaker 1: to that run game that I haven't felt since Chris
17:21
Speaker 1: Carson hasn't been back there. It wasn't spectacled, but it
17:24
Speaker 1: did sport touchdown. He did get that game going that
17:26
Speaker 1: first series. Alice Collins was one of the guys who
17:29
Speaker 1: set the tone for this football team. Yeah, no question
17:31
Speaker 1: about it. And it's good to see Alice Collins come back.
17:33
Speaker 1: You know, we drafted him in twenty sixteen and he
17:35
Speaker 1: went off to Baltimore had a thousand yards season, and
17:38
Speaker 1: good to see him come back and kind of get
17:40
Speaker 1: his footweet feet weet and helped his football team. None
17:44
Speaker 1: of the running backs that are currently healthy right now
17:46
Speaker 1: are played the game the way Chris Carson plays the game.
17:49
Speaker 1: Those are all good football players, and it was good
17:52
Speaker 1: to see what I saw from Alex Collins was a
17:54
Speaker 1: little bit more I don't know, physicality, is the right word.
17:57
Speaker 1: It just a little more downhill north south, and I
17:59
Speaker 1: like where he's running his feet. So it's really good
18:01
Speaker 1: to see Alice get out there and really helped this
18:02
Speaker 1: football team. He looked good, and I love seeing that
18:04
Speaker 1: toss play. Shout out on that touchdown. Shout out to
18:07
Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown. Brown took their miclinebacker and put him in
18:12
Speaker 1: the end zone as Ac scored. So I love that
18:15
Speaker 1: toss action. I love to see those big boys getting
18:17
Speaker 1: up front and getting physical. So it was good to
18:19
Speaker 1: see Alex Collins get after it. It was it looks
18:22
Speaker 1: confident when Alice Collins was running, he looked confident. He
18:25
Speaker 1: wasn't secon against himself. Right. Another playmaker, DJ read ten
18:29
Speaker 1: tackles one tackle for loss, one fumble recovery, a kick
18:32
Speaker 1: off preturner for four to three yards, nine third down
18:35
Speaker 1: stop on the screen. We list all these things. I
18:38
Speaker 1: heard him talk with Q thirteen post game and he
18:42
Speaker 1: was just pointing out all the negatives. I could have
18:45
Speaker 1: had a pick, I could have done this, I could
18:46
Speaker 1: have done that. That's the mentality you want from a
18:49
Speaker 1: young guy or anybody who's taken an help. But we
18:52
Speaker 1: can't ignore the young man had a decent game. Yeah,
18:55
Speaker 1: you know. I mean sometimes sometimes people look at tackles
18:57
Speaker 1: from defensive backs and say, well that maybe that's not
19:00
Speaker 1: did well. The thing was, he was active in the
19:02
Speaker 1: run game. He was where he was supposed to be.
19:04
Speaker 1: Number one. I think I think when you look at
19:08
Speaker 1: our how our defensive backs have played over the last
19:11
Speaker 1: few months or so, I think I think dj Read
19:13
Speaker 1: has really helped this football team. Um, a lot of
19:15
Speaker 1: twelves didn't know anything about him till two weeks ago,
19:17
Speaker 1: and he stepped in and done a nice job. He's
19:19
Speaker 1: going to be in the right spot. Um, he stepped in,
19:21
Speaker 1: did a really nice job at nicol and then just
19:23
Speaker 1: shows his versatility to jump back outside. So love to
19:25
Speaker 1: see it. And one thing I didn't know is that
19:27
Speaker 1: had no idea his pump or kickoff return ability. That
19:31
Speaker 1: was the best kickoff return all season and he saw
19:33
Speaker 1: that birth. So it's good to have another weapon back
19:36
Speaker 1: there because Travis Hillmer kind of got daged with a
19:38
Speaker 1: hand injury. So it's good to see that the Seahawks
19:40
Speaker 1: have more weapons. And dj Read is just continuing to
19:42
Speaker 1: prove that he's a value member of this football team.
19:45
Speaker 1: Dj Read, keep acting value to this team, young man,
19:48
Speaker 1: next playmaker. Jamal Adam seven tackles to two sacks, a
19:52
Speaker 1: force fumble, two tackles for laws, one QB hit um
19:57
Speaker 1: and he played on the bad shoulder. Yep. It was
19:59
Speaker 1: early two. Was that first series we saw him walk
20:01
Speaker 1: into the locker room and we're like, oh man, what
20:03
Speaker 1: is it. I thought maybe he reactivated as growing wasn't
20:06
Speaker 1: that bum shoulder comes back, has two sacks, a strip sack.
20:11
Speaker 1: He's doing what we're paying him to do. He's not
20:14
Speaker 1: gonna be an interceptions guy. These causing havoc. His defense
20:18
Speaker 1: had the best performance I think they've had all year,
20:20
Speaker 1: even with their seven sacks last year, and a lot
20:23
Speaker 1: of it is because he's getting after the quarterback. Yeah. No,
20:25
Speaker 1: that's what Jamal Adams does. He's one of the best
20:27
Speaker 1: boozing football players in the National Football League. And I
20:30
Speaker 1: love him down in the box. I love him like
20:31
Speaker 1: an extra linebacker. Man. That's I think that's his strength
20:34
Speaker 1: and I think he does that really well. And the
20:35
Speaker 1: other thing about it, too, was he talked about it
20:38
Speaker 1: when he spoke to you guys on Danny and Gallant
20:40
Speaker 1: this morning. Was not only is he playing with the
20:42
Speaker 1: bum shoulder. When he creates that strip sack. He had
20:44
Speaker 1: to go at it with the wrong arm because he
20:46
Speaker 1: couldn't lift his other arm up high enough, and he
20:48
Speaker 1: still got it done, still got another sack after that.
20:50
Speaker 1: So I just love to see the toughness out of
20:52
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. You know, he's a gamer. He will do
20:54
Speaker 1: anything for this football team. So I love his mentality.
20:58
Speaker 1: Even if he talked after the game saying we're going
20:59
Speaker 1: to be fine, you know, we screwed up. He owns anything,
21:03
Speaker 1: he takes responsibility for it. So he's just a leader
21:05
Speaker 1: on this football team. And I think with him in
21:07
Speaker 1: that rold, things are going to get better. And I
21:09
Speaker 1: think we started to see that in the second half.
21:11
Speaker 1: Signo Jamal Adams. His post game fits are so West
21:15
Speaker 1: Coast hey Man is always looking fresh for show. The
21:21
Speaker 1: last playmaker. Kyle Fuller Man Kyle Fuller Aaron Donald, which
21:26
Speaker 1: I shouted to the mountaintops to anyone that will listened
21:29
Speaker 1: to me, is the best defensive player in the National
21:32
Speaker 1: Football League, the best, potentially one of the best defensive
21:35
Speaker 1: players of this generation. Let me read you a stat
21:37
Speaker 1: line once again. Zero tackles, zero sacks, zero tackles for loss,
21:44
Speaker 1: two QB hits and if you look at the numbers
21:46
Speaker 1: in pure impact, that's the worst game he's ever played
21:48
Speaker 1: against Seattle. So big upsa Kyl Fuller, Aaron Donald wasn't
21:52
Speaker 1: over the center one hundred percent. Of course, he moved around.
21:55
Speaker 1: He was lined up over the guards, over you, Potty
21:57
Speaker 1: and Lewis at different times. But when he was on
21:59
Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller, Tyle Forward did a great job. Again, he
22:02
Speaker 1: stepped in, was playing on a high ankle sprain, calling them,
22:06
Speaker 1: calling the protections and whatnot, and it's just it's just
22:09
Speaker 1: amazing to see a guy that step in against a
22:11
Speaker 1: caliber of that defensive line and ball out. And what
22:15
Speaker 1: people don't understand is that center is the second quarterback.
22:19
Speaker 1: He's calling the box, he's communicating with five guys out there,
22:22
Speaker 1: he's relaying calls from Russell Wilson. He has to be
22:25
Speaker 1: on point at all times. And then you have one
22:27
Speaker 1: of the best defenders of all the time lining up
22:30
Speaker 1: over you maybe fifty to sixty percent of the time.
22:32
Speaker 1: And big ups of those guards too, they're gonna help them.
22:35
Speaker 1: The double teams. It's it's a It takes a village
22:39
Speaker 1: to block Aaron Donald, and that's what we saw. Yes
22:41
Speaker 1: the Hawks loss. It didn't pan out the way that
22:44
Speaker 1: you wanted to, but there were some bright spots, and
22:46
Speaker 1: this offensive line, specifically Kyle Fuller was a bright spot.
22:50
Speaker 1: Big up, young man. I assume he's gonna be out
22:52
Speaker 1: for a few weeks because of the high ankle sprain.
22:54
Speaker 1: You came in, you filled in, you dig your thing.
22:56
Speaker 1: Good for you, all right, wide receiver round. Not much
23:00
Speaker 1: to see here this week? Nos, Yeah, lock it catch
23:03
Speaker 1: at sixty six. Freddie looks explosive. Yeah, three for thirty
23:06
Speaker 1: seven along to twenty one. If Freddie was active for
23:10
Speaker 1: a few weeks and then kind of faded a little bit,
23:12
Speaker 1: now he's back. I like seeing Freddie gets him love yea.
23:15
Speaker 1: If Freddie looks good, man, I think. I think, especially
23:18
Speaker 1: with all the attention to DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett,
23:23
Speaker 1: David Moore has obviously played super well this year. But
23:25
Speaker 1: Freddie looked good yesterday. I love to see him, like
23:27
Speaker 1: to see him improving every week. And when you're in
23:29
Speaker 1: there and Russ decided to throw you the ball, make
23:31
Speaker 1: it happen, because that's just building that chemistry in that
23:34
Speaker 1: trust and don't give RUSS a reason not to go
23:36
Speaker 1: your way. So I'd love to see Freddie Freddie football
23:38
Speaker 1: getting after it. I'd like to see it. Greg Golson
23:42
Speaker 1: had two for thirty three DK two for twenty eight,
23:44
Speaker 1: wasn't targeted in the first half. Pete Carroll said, they
23:47
Speaker 1: called his number. They called his number. The players that
23:49
Speaker 1: are meant to go for him, But Reeds take you
23:52
Speaker 1: off of it. If Jayla Ramsey's playing it perfectly, you
23:55
Speaker 1: go off it. If the defense takes away a certain route,
23:57
Speaker 1: you go off it. I don't think they said, oh
23:59
Speaker 1: my gosh, Danylon Ramsey as owner, we're not going throwing
24:01
Speaker 1: the football. It was like, look, they played the perfect
24:04
Speaker 1: defense for this call. So sometimes you just have to
24:06
Speaker 1: move on to your reas. Yeah, you have guys underneath.
24:09
Speaker 1: And honestly, I haven't had a chance to go through
24:10
Speaker 1: a coach's film yet. It's not up yet, but I'm
24:12
Speaker 1: really interested to see how they played him because I
24:14
Speaker 1: think a lot of times when they weren't in man,
24:16
Speaker 1: you had a safety of the top or you had
24:18
Speaker 1: a linebacker buzzing underneath. So there's different ways to take
24:21
Speaker 1: him away and that hopefully we were hoping that would
24:23
Speaker 1: open up some other guys. But and there's another one
24:25
Speaker 1: on the sideline that would have been a huge catch
24:27
Speaker 1: that was just out of his fingertips. And that was
24:30
Speaker 1: one that you normally see Russell and DK hook up on.
24:32
Speaker 1: So he makes that catch to his statalone. Looks a
24:35
Speaker 1: lot different, but it's just one of those days. Man.
24:37
Speaker 1: We'll see the rams again and I think we'll be
24:39
Speaker 1: better prepared most definitely. DJ Dallas running back, had two
24:43
Speaker 1: for twenty three. Two big plays. Was kind of scrambled
24:45
Speaker 1: plays too. Russell flicks the ball to him on one.
24:48
Speaker 1: He does this Stefan Digg's imitation getting his knees up
24:51
Speaker 1: trying to shake dudes. Nice to see him get the rock.
24:53
Speaker 1: Homer had three for nineteen, Disley one for sixteen, Demo
24:57
Speaker 1: two for sixteen, Hollister one for six, and then Alex
25:00
Speaker 1: Collins one for four. Lots of names on this statue,
25:03
Speaker 1: but not a lot of yards and no touchdowns. I
25:06
Speaker 1: expect this to look different this Thursday against Arizona Cardinals.
25:10
Speaker 1: But now let's break down a play in the coach's corner.
25:14
Speaker 1: All right, this first play, we are gonna look to
25:16
Speaker 1: the only player we're gonna look at is Alan's Collins
25:18
Speaker 1: thirteen yard touchdown on a run on the opening drive,
25:22
Speaker 1: setting the tone at the Rams thirteen Collins stays in
25:25
Speaker 1: the backfield, quick tossing him, he goes left side, hitside
25:28
Speaker 1: to ten, hit side to five. Touchdown. Seahawks around the
25:34
Speaker 1: left hand with a good block by Disley, and Alex
25:37
Speaker 1: Collins has returned to Seattle to score six with their
25:41
Speaker 1: first opportunity. The Seahawks are on the board and they
25:44
Speaker 1: lead six to three. Man, I really liked this play design,
25:49
Speaker 1: all right. They motioned it Tighten over to the right
25:51
Speaker 1: side of the formation. Well, they bring him back to
25:54
Speaker 1: be the lead on the toss for Alex Collins. He
25:56
Speaker 1: gets out. D K goes flat down the line of
25:59
Speaker 1: scrimmage and seals the edge. Boom who's the receiver? Demo
26:03
Speaker 1: gets to the second level, makes a block the tight end.
26:06
Speaker 1: I believe that's Hollister makes another block, but it's all
26:09
Speaker 1: about seven to six. Seventy boy, big boy triple og.
26:14
Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown leaves the charge and drives a grown man
26:18
Speaker 1: twelve yards into the end zone. This is the type
26:22
Speaker 1: of football we missed not having thirty two back there, Oh,
26:25
Speaker 1: no question about it. And you look at Dwayne He's
26:27
Speaker 1: he climbs the second level, he makes contact with that
26:29
Speaker 1: with that linebacker at the ten yard line and takes
26:32
Speaker 1: him for a ride onto his back two yards deep
26:34
Speaker 1: in the end zone. And that's the physical stuff you
26:36
Speaker 1: love seeing. Like Ray Roberts talked about a ton of
26:38
Speaker 1: the pregame show, Drayn Brown has those big arms meant
26:43
Speaker 1: for smashing people. Get this man out on the perimeter
26:45
Speaker 1: and do work. And it's everybody making their block. It's
26:48
Speaker 1: it's Louis sealing a guy. It's Kyle Fuller getting a
26:52
Speaker 1: little double team from Fuller and Will Distly getting a
26:55
Speaker 1: linebacker taking him out of the play. It's uh Jacob
26:58
Speaker 1: Holiso running out trying to cut the fensive back out there.
27:00
Speaker 1: So it's just great to see them getting downhill north
27:03
Speaker 1: and south. And that's what this football team, that's what
27:05
Speaker 1: we've been used to seeing for the past five years
27:08
Speaker 1: or so. That's this is what we do. So no
27:10
Speaker 1: matter who's back there, I like this kind of action.
27:12
Speaker 1: Anytime Duayne Brown can get out on the edge and
27:14
Speaker 1: get a full head of team and he's going to
27:16
Speaker 1: block linebackers and dbs, it's gonna be a long day,
27:19
Speaker 1: long day, and this happened on the opening drive. The
27:22
Speaker 1: Rams only gave up seven points on opening drives prior
27:24
Speaker 1: to this. The Hawks set the tone and say, look,
27:26
Speaker 1: we're going down the field. We're gonna get it done.
27:28
Speaker 1: Didn't work out in the long run, but it's nice
27:31
Speaker 1: to see them come out fast. The last two weeks,
27:34
Speaker 1: this offense come out slow. I asked Pete carr Ago,
27:36
Speaker 1: is there something you guys are doing different? Pregaming goes Nah,
27:39
Speaker 1: it's just focus and execution. That's what it comes down to.
27:42
Speaker 1: These are grown men, these are professionals. So nas we're
27:46
Speaker 1: not in the greatest formation of football. This week the
27:49
Speaker 1: clock just ran out on us an taken by Huntley.
27:55
Speaker 1: They're just gonna let the clock wind down, but it's
27:57
Speaker 1: not even gonna bother taking that last time out, the
28:03
Speaker 1: clock ran out again for the second week in a row.
28:07
Speaker 1: Bump Man, It's it's it's tough. I never this formation.
28:11
Speaker 1: It just feels uncomfortable because we're just not used to
28:13
Speaker 1: We're so spoiled to start the year five and oh
28:16
Speaker 1: and then you lost Arizona and then we got to
28:17
Speaker 1: figure it out and just just feel this two weeks
28:20
Speaker 1: in a row. It's just weird. I don't like it.
28:21
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all, but you know, it
28:24
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's all about the football. And
28:26
Speaker 1: once again, turnovers we're the main difference in the game.
28:28
Speaker 1: Seahawks had three, the Rams had one. Lose turnover battle,
28:32
Speaker 1: you lose the game. Yep. If you don't want to
28:36
Speaker 1: turn off about it, you're probably gonna lose the game.
28:39
Speaker 1: On the bright side of the defense played better in
28:40
Speaker 1: the second half. They play better. Only allowed six points.
28:44
Speaker 1: We haven't done that in a very long time. That's
28:46
Speaker 1: a trophy, So there's a positive. I only allowed six points.
28:49
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams was a factor again. Two sacks. He's gonna
28:53
Speaker 1: lead this team in sacks end of the year. I'm
28:55
Speaker 1: gonna call it right now. He's got eight to ten sacks.
28:58
Speaker 1: He's gonna lead this team and we need more of that. No,
29:01
Speaker 1: I love it, and hey if he if he leaves
29:02
Speaker 1: the team with ten eleven sacks, I'll be more than happy.
29:07
Speaker 1: And yeah, you mentioned I love the defense. Only allowing
29:09
Speaker 1: six points and zero in the fourth quarter, which has
29:14
Speaker 1: been a point where we've struggled all year long. Giving
29:16
Speaker 1: up a twenty yards of the fourth quarter, So you'd
29:18
Speaker 1: like to see that, So that that's the positive side.
29:20
Speaker 1: And we've been talking about a kind of periodic throughout
29:23
Speaker 1: the show. It's the Seahawks need to find that running
29:24
Speaker 1: game again. And if Carson and Hide aren't back on
29:27
Speaker 1: Thursday night, we still have to figure out a way
29:30
Speaker 1: between Collins, Homer and Dallas. We have to get the
29:32
Speaker 1: running game going because right now it's not working without
29:37
Speaker 1: some kind of bounce, and that's what we need. Yeah,
29:41
Speaker 1: here's the here's the bad news. Hawks of loss two
29:45
Speaker 1: in a row. That's true. Here's a good news. There's
29:48
Speaker 1: still top first place in the division. Baby, you had
29:50
Speaker 1: a game coming up on Thursday. Gets a team that
29:52
Speaker 1: beat you and beat the Bills on a hell Mary
29:55
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players I've seen in a while.
29:57
Speaker 1: But it's time to get revenge. You are at home,
30:00
Speaker 1: We're undefeated at home. Protect your house, Contain Murray. Hopson's
30:04
Speaker 1: gonna do what he does. Balls are gonna ball. But
30:07
Speaker 1: I think that if this team can get healthy, I'm optimistic.
30:11
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be tough. I know it can
30:13
Speaker 1: go either way. But this is a big game. This
30:16
Speaker 1: team usually rises to the challenge. Why not this week
30:19
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30:36
Speaker 1: Everything the Seahawks want to complish this year is still
30:38
Speaker 1: in front. They could still win the NFC West. It's
30:41
Speaker 1: time to get back and talk about all the time
30:43
Speaker 1: on the NCUS huge game on Thursday. Will be back
30:47
Speaker 1: one of the next two days with a preview bump.
30:49
Speaker 1: Let's get it done. Hey, let's get it done. Bounce
30:51
Speaker 1: back baby. The Hawks look to games revenge on Thursday
30:56
Speaker 1: they lost to the Rams. They'll see them again as well. Hey,
31:00
Speaker 1: payback is a you know what and me and Nashville
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