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Getting Awkward with Alexe Godin and Andrew Spencer · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Before I get two carried away, I do want to
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  Speaker 1: give a shout out to the hotel. We're staying at,
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  Speaker 1: our complimentary bikes out for a spin along the coast
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  Speaker 1: and back to the hotel. Unwine in the living room
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  Speaker 1: the Porto Fino, pours self served tap wall and soak
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  Speaker 1: in a breathtaking coastal sunset the por Fino Hotel and
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  Speaker 1: Marina where coastal charm meets endless discovery. Now let's get
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  Speaker 1: back to our interview.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 2: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, it's Almost Famous podcast. Been here. We're at the
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  Speaker 1: reunion special with the Bachelor in Paradise cast. I have
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  Speaker 1: the honor edge the pleasure of sitting down with some
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  Speaker 1: of the winners from this season. Andrew and Alex you
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: have been here forever. You are tired, So I hope
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  Speaker 1: you say all the things that we want to hear. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and with.
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  Speaker 3: And tired, we'll just wear you out, wear you out.
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  Speaker 1: Tom. We did sit through the reunion today. Ye I
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  Speaker 1: am going to touch on a few things where there
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  Speaker 1: was some controversy surrounding you two. I didn't even know
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  Speaker 1: that was going to be a part of today. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know that was even a thing. Really it was
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  Speaker 1: so I need a lot of education on it, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to start. It was something that well said.
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  Speaker 1: And we love to quote Wells here. We respect Wells
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  Speaker 1: and love Wells here at the Almost FAM's podcast he said,
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  Speaker 1: and and this is no knock on any other couple here,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be clear on that, but he said
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  Speaker 1: that you two were the cutest couple to see born
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  Speaker 1: from Paradise. How does that make you feel?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we did pay him, but out of a
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  Speaker 4: pit check that we won.
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  Speaker 5: But no, I think you know, he Wells was there
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  Speaker 5: the whole time and he was able to observe all
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  Speaker 5: of us, And I feel like coming from him meant
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  Speaker 5: a lot. And I feel like a lot of a
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  Speaker 5: lot of our conversations, a lot of our interactions weren't
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  Speaker 5: shown on the screen unfortunately, and I wish we both
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  Speaker 5: wish that that, I would say.
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  Speaker 3: I would say the biggest thing though, is we hung
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  Speaker 3: out with like the community. Yeah, so it was never
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  Speaker 3: like one on one time with me and Alex. We
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  Speaker 3: were together like next to each other, but we were
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  Speaker 3: always with vaulved with everyone's conversation always like just like
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  Speaker 3: a listening ear to whoever needs to be listening to you.
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  Speaker 3: So like we were. We were just being good cast
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  Speaker 3: mates at the same time. And also just like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, we just we're byd like you know when
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  Speaker 3: you you're dating someone and you guys hang out in
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  Speaker 3: the kitchen with the family. Yeah, that's that's literally what
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, you know, yes, that's strategic and intentional
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  Speaker 1: because I just.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of talking to you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just such a social butterfly. I say, I love
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  Speaker 5: to like talk to people.
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  Speaker 3: It just felt good to just bounce off of everyone
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  Speaker 3: and then also talk things. It's just like you get
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  Speaker 3: it gets weird to the point where you have to like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: here's a camera, Canna, you guys sit down, have your
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  Speaker 3: one one talk. Talk about something structure. It's not her
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  Speaker 3: environment like to be in. So I'm just like, why
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  Speaker 3: put her in a situation where it's gonna make her
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  Speaker 3: feel weird. Let's just stay around everyone and if we
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  Speaker 3: have conversations that we want to bring up, you just
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  Speaker 3: tell it to me right now. And that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: how it was. It was just like we would just
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  Speaker 3: bounce off of everyone's at like the whole atmosphere. That's
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  Speaker 3: just kind of how we would imagine.
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  Speaker 1: That actually helped you too when it came to the
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  Speaker 1: end because people were like, no, I know who they
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  Speaker 1: are as a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, because we were literally two people will be
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  Speaker 3: us to you. We'll talk to this group and we'll
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  Speaker 3: It was just strategic.
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  Speaker 4: But when you think about it, I think it did
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  Speaker 4: help us.
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  Speaker 5: Like with Keith and Kathy, like I owe it to
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  Speaker 5: them that we I think the last's backstabbing challenge that
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  Speaker 5: we want because we got so close to them that
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  Speaker 5: they were like, we couldn't vote for you for anything,
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, if it wasn't for that, I
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  Speaker 5: don't think we would have won. So I owe them
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  Speaker 5: my life. But I think I just planted, not planted
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  Speaker 5: seat that's not a good word, but we.
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  Speaker 3: Were we were just friendly and I don't think like
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  Speaker 3: we never got outside of ourselves. We never changed up,
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  Speaker 3: we never switched up who we were. I think like
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  Speaker 3: throughout the whole show, we just stayed consistent regardless of
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  Speaker 3: the money. Before the money, we were the same. After
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  Speaker 3: the morning, we were the exact same. And if we
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  Speaker 3: would have went set at home, we got set home.
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  Speaker 3: But like, we won the money, so everybody else I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Skidding, but yeah, but yeah, we're gonna get the money
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  Speaker 1: and what it's going towards. We saw a little clip
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the episode. I wonder, and forgive me,
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  Speaker 1: you haven't been on Paradise before. This is your first time,
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  Speaker 1: this is your second, Yeah, the second time on Paradise. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: did you feel like Andrew, this was like your ability
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  Speaker 1: to kind of do this was different because of this
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  Speaker 1: new environment, structure, kind of the new paradise.
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  Speaker 3: I find it extremely funny when people are like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this isn't. This isn't the paradise I know and love, Like,
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  Speaker 3: this isn't They're not. They're they're doing these challenges and
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  Speaker 3: like we're doing something like if you're on those old beaches,
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  Speaker 3: you're you're sitting around waiting for a date card or
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  Speaker 3: someone to come down, Like you don't you don't really
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  Speaker 3: do anything, and the majority of the date or the
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  Speaker 3: show or the episode is someone on a date, so
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  Speaker 3: it's like, instead of like that, you just put a
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  Speaker 3: challenge in there, so everyone's on the date basically. And
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was more fun, like for me, like
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  Speaker 3: being able to interact with Alex and like everyone else
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  Speaker 3: in a competitive way and a fun way. After every
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  Speaker 3: challenge you come back and talk about it, talk about
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  Speaker 3: something that you did. I thought it was I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was massive, you know, it did so much for everyone.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just way better than my first experience
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  Speaker 3: in Paradise. It was hotter there obviously, and I was
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  Speaker 3: just more comfortable, but also it was just it was
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  Speaker 3: easier to talk to people, easier to you know, just
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  Speaker 3: live there and be understand, like understand where you're at
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  Speaker 3: in the environment. So I'm a massive fan. Obviously, the
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  Speaker 3: voting out things kind of tough with you know, you
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  Speaker 3: not knowing exactly everyone's how far along they are in
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  Speaker 3: their couples. But other than that, like keep the challenges like.
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  Speaker 1: You loved it. Oh my god, I haven't asked anybody
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  Speaker 1: that yet. I mean, and I don't know, challenge many
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  Speaker 1: people who have been there before. Kat obviously Hm Sean,
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  Speaker 1: I think was in Paradise before. But you're the first
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  Speaker 1: person I thought about asking that too. Yeah, did you
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  Speaker 1: enjoy it? Outside of this beautiful thing?
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  Speaker 3: It was just fun, Like we enjoyed. We had things
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  Speaker 3: like we didn't get any of the keys really when
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  Speaker 3: we were locked in.
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  Speaker 4: The box, but it was still so much fun.
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  Speaker 3: We had a great time, Like we were cracking up
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  Speaker 3: the tent. One was amazing, Like I thought that was
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  Speaker 3: one of the that was my favorite thing of that
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  Speaker 3: was the best. Yeah, and it was the most, like
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  Speaker 3: I get, I was the most tested in that relationship test.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, dude, I over promised.
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  Speaker 5: No, I over promised, And I said, oh I am
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  Speaker 5: a good I'm like a camper.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a camper. I know how to pitch a tent
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  Speaker 4: and up there, I didn't know how.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't do anything. I didn't do anything. And then like
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  Speaker 3: she's like she's like, she's like you need to have
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  Speaker 3: more patience. I'm like looking at I'm dripping. We just
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  Speaker 3: like break down laughing, which was like one of my
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  Speaker 3: favorite parts as well. Like we just like I'm just
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  Speaker 3: like I'm pissed off, but I like we just start
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  Speaker 3: busting out laughing, and I was like, wow, okay, like
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  Speaker 3: it's really not that big of a deal, Like I
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  Speaker 3: can relax, Like I know I'm getting like heightened by
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  Speaker 3: this challenge, but at the end of the day, you're
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  Speaker 3: just like kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of gives like a not an insight, but like into what.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe future hurdles working together.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, you know, you were pissed off, but at
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  Speaker 5: the end of like it's not that serious and laughing.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it helped in that sense to like
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  Speaker 4: work as a team.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, And then we kept saying that like being
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  Speaker 3: the best team, like we just need to keep you
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  Speaker 3: just need to be a good team. And you were like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be a good teammate then, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and it is one of the like most
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  Speaker 1: endearing things about your relationship. And I when Will said
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  Speaker 1: it earlier, I sat back and I was like, it's true.
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  Speaker 1: You guys laugh a lot. Yeah, and you do. And
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  Speaker 1: and I think there was a moment this season that
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  Speaker 1: I actually got protective watching it because people were kind
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  Speaker 1: of criticizing you guys or your childlike behavior. Yeah, is
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  Speaker 1: that Okay, So with that being said, is that something
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  Speaker 1: you want to keep in your relationship?
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  Speaker 5: I will up this morning, That's the first thing I said.
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  Speaker 5: I said, and my favorite thing about our relationship is
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  Speaker 5: our childlike banter. I wouldn't like this, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 4: It's we have so much fun, like yeah, why?
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  Speaker 3: And then also like we come from really tough backgrounds
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  Speaker 3: like life, like growing up. And I think one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that she told me it was like there
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  Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of like love or happiness in the house,
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  Speaker 3: like and I was total opposite, like same situation, but
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  Speaker 3: my situation was just absolute love, absolute happiness because of
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  Speaker 3: like our family, so like my family structure, even though
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: we were struggling, everything was like not perfect. We just
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  Speaker 3: loved to laugh and love to be around each other.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't care when people say it's like, oh
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  Speaker 3: they're childish. That is what I will always have in
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  Speaker 3: my household is a Canty'll be like, okay, hey, we
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: can laugh about it. It's not that serious. And I
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: always tell her, I was like, never panic, it's never like,
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  Speaker 3: don't make a bad situation worse. So I'm just like,
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: what am I gonna do? Like being super serious about things.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't change how we're going to approach it everything.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna do things the best our ability, and we're
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: gonna have fun doing it. So that's kind of like how.
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  Speaker 4: I almost lost my passport coming here and I didn't panics.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just I was just like, I was like, Okay, relax,
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  Speaker 3: and then she's like, oh, found it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, look at that. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: the only reason you could criticize it would be if
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  Speaker 1: it isn't progressing your relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So as you sit here today, it's been a few
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  Speaker 1: months since Paradise ended, you're still arm in arm. Yeah.
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: Oh no, we have our battles, Like we're not like
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  Speaker 3: laughing through all times.
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  Speaker 5: Has your relationship I'm upset and then we'll be laughing.
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  Speaker 5: You'll say you're joking. I'd yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: A very serious person. People don't understand this.
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  Speaker 4: I will say.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not like just giggles all the time, Like I
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: have a I lock in, Like when I need to
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: be locked in, I'm like, I just don't take every
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: situation too seriously, Like you can't be taking everything too
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: seriously in life. Like everyone's like he's thirty making tiktoks
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  Speaker 3: with Greg. Yeah, because we're having a great fucking time living.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: But like it's just like it's just a lifestyle thing,
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  Speaker 3: Like I don't wanna, I don't wanna like that is
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: my favorite part of my life is being light and
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: being able to share laughter with people. And I think
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: laughing with Alex on the beach was like the match
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  Speaker 3: made in heaven for me.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm like, if you know, it's gonna sound so corny,
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  Speaker 5: but I always say I want to be eighty years
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  Speaker 5: old on a porch with my person and old and wrinkly,
• 10:38
  Speaker 5: and if I can just have a good time or
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: just be, you know, laughing on that porch with you,
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  Speaker 5: that's all that matters.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: Your nervous with your hands out though, because we do
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: need Andrew to walk out of here today, I will not.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: We needed him to stand up at some point, and
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  Speaker 1: we're good this season. I'm not even like a I'm kidding,
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: you know, how do you feel watching that? I do
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  Speaker 1: want to know that scene.
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  Speaker 3: It's like that's like us though, Like if you watch
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: a couple episodes before, she was like, oh my god,
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: my coochie sweaty or something like that, and I'm like Yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Just like I have no filter.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: It's sound like a gross thing either. We're not like
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: we don't have like we have manners. It's your mic,
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So like people can hear
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: cloud loudly because it's on a mic. It's like screaming
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: from the rafters at a time and place. And No,
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: we're just very comfortable with each other. She's got that
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: like international vibe to you, where like they're overly comfortable
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  Speaker 3: with like sections.
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  Speaker 5: Some international I'm from Canada and it's.
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  Speaker 4: So comfortable talking about my friends.
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  Speaker 3: And he was like, I'm sitting there and they're They're
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: like they're just way too close. I'm like, I'm like
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: waiting for some video or me or something like the
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  Speaker 1: in this. I just think it's fun and I think
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  Speaker 1: was is right. It's cute. I think it's something that
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: not every couple can have, but when it does exist,
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. This is nothing, but hey, I
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: loved watching it. I loved your dynamic. I think it
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: was so fun and I do think it is one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why you two made it to the end,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: and I was so happy you did. One of the cutest,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: most emotional moments for me this whole season was at
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  Speaker 1: the very end when you get up and you meet
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  Speaker 1: Andrew on the plateau and you said, I'm not good
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  Speaker 1: at giving speeches, and he goes, I know, I know,
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  Speaker 1: And it just felt like he knew you in that
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  Speaker 1: moment so much more than I would expect him to
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  Speaker 1: for the time being. I want to also add into this,
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  Speaker 1: you said during the reunion that you're awkward. I think
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: these two things go together. Tell us about what that
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: means to you to be awkward, to know that you're
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: not going to be good at it, and for him
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: just to look at you and smile so I.
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  Speaker 5: Think it's almost like that moment where I'm just backing
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  Speaker 5: up a little bit when we expressed or feelings to
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  Speaker 5: each other and I was nervous to say I love
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  Speaker 5: you and you said, you know, he held my hand
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: and he said it first.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: It was at first I didn't know where you're going.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, right, but you took my hand
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  Speaker 5: because you knew how much I struggled with that word,
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: of course, and you stepped up. And I feel like
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: again when I walked to the plateau and he said,
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm not good with speech, it just felt
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  Speaker 5: like such a safe space and like you knew me
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: exactly and you understand where I was coming from, and
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  Speaker 5: you didn't care if the speech was oscar worthy.
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  Speaker 4: It just came from the heart.
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  Speaker 5: And I felt like, for anything my awkwardness, you just
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: don't see me.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: You don't see it as a negative.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Really moments I don't think that like and.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I just want to.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Not almost with my friends. That's the thing. A lot
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: of it is the language bearer.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be honest, Like, I know I don't
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: have an accent, but that's because I'm a speech therapist
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: and I learned not how to not have to have
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: an screen, not to have an accent.
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: But with my friends, I'm not that awkward. I'm like, no,
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: I think with cameras, I get it happens. It happens, right.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: But to answer your.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Question, and the crazy part is like she's been in
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: like series for acting, like in like Canada and everything.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, how, like how do you do this?
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: And it's.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Like I've seen her reels. I'm like, you you memorize
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: all and you did all this.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: You memorize.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: You can't. You can't. You can't.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: You can't say words what love does.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes you just exactly. But it just made me.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: And then I saw these clips of Zindia and I
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, you guys are the exact
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: same person.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Right, and she's not getting crucified for it now.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: She's like super socially awkward like in interviews, and I
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: was just like, this looks like like like Alex and
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: sounds like Alex.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll do a finger snaps anyway.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it felt really nice to just feel safe enough.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: It feel safe watching it. It did. It felt as
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a viewer. It was a good moment for you and me.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: At home being like this is feels really healthy and happy,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Think you hadn't seen that throughout the season, right, And
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: it was the first time that we saw how like
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: we can.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I also people were like, this is so random, how
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: did they even get to here? It's just you know,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: we like and that's why I like we used the
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: level thing as well. It's like it was just like
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: we just kept building, you know what I mean, just
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: kept going, just keep stacking each day and just like
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: trying to find each other that way instead of like
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: trying to create this grand like love story. I don't
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: think that was in my head this this time around.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I wasn't looking for, you know, a rom com situation.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: It just actually just happened, and like that was like
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: the best part about it. And I didn't want to
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: like mess that up by trying to like curate a
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: way to make this look a certain way.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: It just and one more thing I wanted to add
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: is one thing that Andrew did that really made it
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: for me real And I was like, this is the
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: kind of guy I want to be with. Is you know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: I'm an open book and I will tell Selmer story
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: to tell a lot of people. I think that's the
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: way I cope. But did you you know I told
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: my story in my background how I grew up and you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: But one time, one night, we had to make a
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: really tough decision and I was really in my head
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: and I was and he looked at me and he said,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: do you think that you're it's hard for you right
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: now because you don't like to let people down. And
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: it was like there right there, And then I was like, wow,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: didn't he didn't only listen to my store, but he's
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: kind of like trying to understand why I act.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: The way I act. That was like, I just felt
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: very hard. So that was kind of like the AHA
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: moment for me.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, you're just solidifying it's the cutest
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: couple in Paradise. I'm gonna ask you some tough questions. Okay, good.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: We are going to talk about some of the not
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: so pretty parts of Paradise. But before I do that,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to transition into keeping on relationship topics. Okay,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: have you talked about getting engaged?
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, we flirt around with it. We just, like
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I said, one step at a time. I think moving
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: in is the next step. We're doing long distance right now,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: which is you know, pretty good since I don't like
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: work like a nine to five, so I'm able to
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: travel like I'll be here for the next like six
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: days and then I fly out somewhere and then yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: we just we just keep navigating. We have a really
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: healthy like phone to FaceTime ratio. I feel like we
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: just breathe on FaceTime nowadays. We don't even say words,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: but it just feels like you're next to them.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: So we do.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Like I'll in the future when this happens or when
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: I'm in Italy in my white gown.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we talk about it.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: But what we're going to do, we like to do.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Serious like right now or just yeah, we like scrapped
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: everything and just started dating, Like we took everything from
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: bachelorin Paradise and just like okay, reset right here, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: we just did this outside.
• 19:40
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• 20:28
  Speaker 1: My wife and I dated long distance for three years.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: That's crazy different parts of you. But yeah, she We're
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: writing letters and hoping she got it the week later.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: We had one rule in our relationship long distance, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: it was never leave each other without having the next
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: visit planned. So it could be a month from now,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: it could be two months from now, but we knew
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: when we were going to see each other again. Yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: it just got excited. It helped just keep us like
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: in a rhythm.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: And what do you want to do when we for
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: this day? Yeah, you could just start planning.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: So my one piece of advice would be to leave
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: each other without at least some meeting on the books.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I love that, you know. Obviously a huge moment during
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the reunion and paradise was this tweet social media conversation
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and lack of support that felt like wasn't given to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the right people at the right time. I just want
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to give you to the really because I could ask
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: the questions. It felt like I would just make it
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: more confusing. I want to give you to the opportunity
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to speak into that situation and as much transparency as
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you can on why you made the decisions you did,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: what your intentions were behind it, and where you think
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you went wrong or where maybe the communication wasn't clear.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I'll start.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I, as I've mentioned before, you know, going
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: into Paradise, I was really close with Jeremy and we
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: would FaceTime pretty much every day as friends, and he
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: had told me that he was friends with he was
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: really interested in Bailey, So going in I knew that,
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: and so I would say I had a stronger relationship
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: with Jeremy at the time, and then I was rooming
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: with Bailey, and you know, I wasn't close with her before,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: but I've learned to really, really, you know, like her.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: So when the whole Susie thing happened, knowing Jeremy, I
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: just thought that it was a moment of I think
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: of weakness where you know, his ego was bruised.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: I think it was.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Do I think it was an idiot move, absolutely, but
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: I think it was on a spur of the moment,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: like oh, you told me you wanted me, and then
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: you want to go let me call Susie.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Still not okay. Had I known.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: What I know now, and regardless, I should have just
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: told her. I regret that and I've owned up to it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: And then the next day, you know, he told me
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: that they had talked, not necessarily about that phone call,
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: but they had talked and they were good with the
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: with with the date and everything. So I saw the
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: potential and the relationship, and I knew how much he
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: liked her because he told me on the side, he
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: was like, I really like Bailey, and especially that Susie
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: was in the picture, and that he said that he
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: was interested in Susie two For him to pick Bailey,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: I was like, he must really like her. So I
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: didn't see me telling Bailey beneficial to her and their relationship.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: And that is the only reason I didn't tell her,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: was kind of to you know, support Jeremy and me,
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: like you acted like a fool.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: You have to tell her, and you will. I thought
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: he was going to do it, but yeah, that was basically.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment that you felt like I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: should tell her?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: No?
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Because I didn't know the extent I really didn't think
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: the phone call was a big deal. We never that
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: was a moment in time where did you tell her
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: we should tell her okay, move on? And I locked
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: in on Andrew and we never thought about it again.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I didn't even think it was going to be a
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: conversation in the whole season.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Never thought about it. I was like, Oh, it's done, perfect,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: be acting like a fool, you know, never until you know.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Of course, when producers come in and they're like, it's
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: gonna look bad, and you're like, I was so confused.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I was like, it's gonna look bad? What do you
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: mean everyone? No, I didn't know. Everyone knew. Yeah, I
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: thought he had come to me and Andrew, but yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: you know, so it's always twenty twenty and tough, but
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: and then anything bad.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a different point of view of it,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Like if people like been watching me for a while,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I don't like every single season I've been on, I've
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: had the exact same thing happen. Literally, first season was
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: a bachelorette. I got mad at a couple of people
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: for telling on Thomas. I'm like, like, why are you
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: wasting time trying to talk about someone else's relationship? Other
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: than yours. And then it happened in Paradise with me
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: when I was dating Brittany Casey had like was trying
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: to talk about how Pizza Pete called her a cloud
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: chaser while I was with her, I was just like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: what is your angle? Like what do you what do
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: you stand in the game for this, Like I don't
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: understand when people try to intervene themselves in someone else's relationship.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I just felt like it's like a I want to
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: be a hero type of thing. So that's just for me.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: For the Brian situation is completely different. I believe that
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: it was just not my business. I right off the
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: jump when Jeremy told me, I was like, bro, you
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: should tell her, like you're omitting information, Like that's worse
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: than like min it's lying. And he's like, oh, it
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: is that a big deal? I mean like it's whatever.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Like it literally was not an apparent conversation that happened
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: throughout weeks, like I didn't even think about it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Like and to me too, I was like, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: I told him, so you know they're gonna air this
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: and he was like no, like we're good, it's not
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: a big deal.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: So I thought in my head. I was like, Okay,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: must really not be a big deal if you're so
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: confident that they're not area.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: And then like and then we're watching Bailey and John
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: or Jeremy grow and we're just like, oh wow, this
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: is a really good solid couple. Like I'm why would
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: anyone even like think of like trying to ruin that
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: unless it's for personal game, So like that's my thing,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And then like going into the whole bro code thing,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: like here's my thing. I'm gonna tell you I still
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: stand on it, like I think, I think the way
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: it was edited, it was turned like my conversation with
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: what's his name Brian a different way my thing was
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: is like you're you're seeing with him running on the beach,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: like I'm with these guys, I'm seeing him. I'm like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: oh dang. Jeremy and Brian are app up at it early,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: eat eating lunch together, even eating breakfast together. Brian is
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: in Jeremy's room NonStop. Him, Jeremy and in Dale three
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: peas in a pod, Like you would have known that
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Jonathan was Brian's roommate because he was always in Jeremy's room.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm just like that is so odd to me
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: that my friend wouldn't come tell me and be like, hey, man,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I think you're being an asshole and you need to
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: go tell her. If you don't, I'm gonna go tell her.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Then I'm like, that is not a good friend. I
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: bro code probably should be word to use. Obviously it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: gotten tarnished and like from some, but that's not the
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: bro code I live by. The brokeode I live by
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: is like, if my friend is doing something, I'm gonna
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: check him and hold him accountable for it. Okay, but
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: it's not my job to do it for him, you
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's not my responsibility. It is
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Jeremy's responsibility only to tell her, you know what I mean?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: And then when you when and when he did, like
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: she still like took him back. So it's like, what
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: was the whole point of tell is saying anything? You
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? So it was never my business
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: to begin with because people are gonna do whatever they
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: want to do. So that's why I was like, I
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: always stay out of it. Obviously you're in a whole
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: different situation being a roommate. And I feel for Bailey
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: for that, like, but for me and for a lot
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: of the people who who like besides like Brian, Brian
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: had every right to tell her not I was never
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: mad at him for telling It's just it was sleazy.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: You knew you could tell it wasn't because that he
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: felt like Bailey should know. If that was the case,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: he would have said it as soon as Jeremy said
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: something he should have told, But he waited until, like
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Jeremy dangled, like letting him go over his head one
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: episode doing the Godfather thing and he's like, I won't
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: take being and talk to you lightly, Like I'm just like,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: the evidence is there, But nothing wrong with him telling.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I just I just knew in that moment's intentions were
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: not pure and it's just and we didn't know the
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: full conversation and the full damage of what was going on,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: so like in my eyes, I was just like, oh,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: it's just a phone call, Like why are you going
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: behind his back to talk about a phone call? Like
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: there's a moment of lapse, Like that's something he should
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: have said. Looking back on it, it was pretty bad,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Just obviously seeing that and
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: watching that back, I feel for Bailey, like that sucks
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: in that situation. And I see Bryant's point, But my
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: thing is, Brian did it at an opportune time for himself.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: He did not do it when it first happened, then
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: he should he waited for Like, I didn't even know
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: that secret rendezvous was gonna happen. So what happens the
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: rendezvous challenge never happened? Do you not say anything? You
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, that's the that's what I'm well.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And it's aired. No, you're right, and it's aired, and
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the two of them are to together and that's what's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: important today. Celebrate that. Yea is I just sat with
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: him with Bailey and Jeremy, and they're as strong as
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I could have ever expected.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: And this saw that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was a small little blimp on your guys.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Beautiful story. Final question for you, Right, you got a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: lot of money. I don't how much you money did
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you get from this? Where's that money going?
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Well, we signed, so it's we're both getting split like
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: sixty two something. I offered to give her my half,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: but she said no. But the sixty is still on
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the table if she wants to take it. But we'll
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: just figure out if you want to do something together that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Said no, by courtesy, baby, don't bet. Don't bet for me.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I think financially the smartest move. I mean, I mean,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: the conversion rate Canadian to U West is pretty good,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to try to pay as much as
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: my student loan as I can. I think that's the
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: smartest move. I wish I had I could use that
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: money to save up for a house, but it's going
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: to go to the student loans, unfortunately.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: It's nice Andrew to offer that to you. Yeah, and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: we're so happy as a Bachelor nation that you're going
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: to be able to help pay off some of those
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: student loans. That's so exciting, a whole new chapter in life,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: not only financially but also romantically. Yeah, we're celebrating you here.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Congratulations again to the cutest couple to come from Bachelor
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in Paradise this season, Andrew and Alex. Thank you for
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: joining the Almost Famous podcast.
• 30:09
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• 30:12
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