Latest / Scam Goddess / Fraud Friday: The Airbnb Bamboozler w/ Lamar Woods
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's poppin Congregation? Ishu Girl, Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess,
- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
- 0:09Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Baalt. That's right, Fraud
- 0:13Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
- 0:16Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and as always, stay scheming, scaled.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Ah, rub.
- 0:29Speaker 3: And run, scam, come.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Rob and froll Scam Goddess. What is up? Congregation is
- 0:44Speaker 1: sugarl Lacey Mosley and we're back for another installment of
- 0:49Speaker 1: Scam Goddess. Uh, I don't say my name. It's Lacey Mosley.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't say my name, so I just had
- 0:56Speaker 1: to check. Ah, Guys, I'm so so stoked for this
- 1:00Speaker 1: guest today. You have seen his work everywhere you see.
- 1:05Speaker 1: He has a movie called this It's a Party. It's
- 1:07Speaker 1: a Party, the film which is on Showtime right yes,
- 1:10Speaker 1: which is super cool. He's a writer. He's been for
- 1:13Speaker 1: a New Girl for Single Parents like he's been for
- 1:15Speaker 1: so many amazing TV shows and he's so hilarious. He's
- 1:18Speaker 1: a part of an amazing comedy team called White Women
- 1:21Speaker 1: in prov Lamar Woods.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Yeah, what up?
- 1:27Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was popping. It's so good to
- 1:29Speaker 3: have you.
- 1:29Speaker 2: I know. I couldn't wait. As soon as I saw
- 1:31Speaker 2: the poster for this podcast, I was like, I gotta
- 1:33Speaker 2: do this show because that shit looked tight.
- 1:36Speaker 1: An organized religion as a scam. My mama said, I
- 1:38Speaker 1: got to stop saying that on air, oh, on air
- 1:41Speaker 1: or on their podcast in general. She was like, please
- 1:43Speaker 1: do not say this anymore where a Christian family. I'm
- 1:47Speaker 1: embarrassing her, like because her church friends been trying to
- 1:49Speaker 1: listen to my podcast.
- 1:49Speaker 3: I'm like, Mama, this is.
- 1:50Speaker 4: Not for you know, christ there's a lot of scams.
- 1:55Speaker 3: You're talking this ship on here.
- 1:56Speaker 4: Yeah, Gary, I like, I like religions.
- 1:59Speaker 2: I study really legion in college, so I'm all about, oh, wow,
- 2:02Speaker 2: you go to I went to Georgia State.
- 2:04Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's a very black school.
- 2:06Speaker 4: Yeah it is. How did you know that a lot
- 2:09Speaker 4: of people don't.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Know that because my cousin was a more house.
- 2:12Speaker 1: So all the Georgia schools I was very familiar with
- 2:14Speaker 1: because I will go down there. That's where I would
- 2:16Speaker 1: get my HBCU experience. Because I went to a predominantly
- 2:19Speaker 1: white institution we call them p wis, But I would
- 2:23Speaker 1: go to like Atlanta home Coming. I was working on
- 2:27Speaker 1: stage Gucci. Man, this is before he went to prison, unfortunately,
- 2:31Speaker 1: so not yet.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Sometimes that tork down count. If it's pret Gucci prison,
- 2:36Speaker 2: he will.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Still making good music. Then No, he did not. His
- 2:39Speaker 1: glow up had not happened yet.
- 2:41Speaker 4: He was I know what you mean.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Well, I always wanted to go to the HBC, like
- 2:44Speaker 2: the you know, morehousing down there. But then I was like, uh,
- 2:48Speaker 2: you know, I only got intercepted to Georgia State, so
- 2:51Speaker 2: I was kind of bumped out. But then I got there.
- 2:52Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this hell of black people down there.
- 2:55Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.
- 2:56Speaker 1: We try to get as many black people in this
- 2:58Speaker 1: podcast as possible. Apparently we start to get some reviews
- 3:00Speaker 1: that the podcast is too urban, so yes, man, I
- 3:06Speaker 1: would love to get that right. I was like, we
- 3:08Speaker 1: made it guys.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:10Speaker 1: I was like.
- 3:10Speaker 3: We started with Paul Tompkins and it was touch and go.
- 3:13Speaker 1: I love Paul, but everybody's like, what is the show?
- 3:18Speaker 2: It was like everybody was like, oh, Shore, that's my
- 3:20Speaker 2: boy Paul up. It just got real black. Yeah.
- 3:24Speaker 3: They were like wait a minute, bros.
- 3:27Speaker 2: That's what that's how I see Paul. He's kind of
- 3:30Speaker 2: a good fish for you know. It's like you put
- 3:32Speaker 2: Paul out there and then and then you get.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Right right exactly what Paul is. Nappers held too, and
- 3:37Speaker 1: the Blacks love Paul. The Black's loving shout they do
- 3:45Speaker 1: shout out to a king for Lamar. What's your relationship
- 3:48Speaker 1: with scams?
- 3:49Speaker 4: My relationship with scams.
- 3:51Speaker 2: I think mostly it's like pyramid schemes because I feel
- 3:54Speaker 2: like that has a choice, no that I just I
- 3:58Speaker 2: feel like I kept getting involved in him when I
- 4:00Speaker 2: was at younger because I used to work in the mall.
- 4:02Speaker 3: When I was a kid, right place for scams, Yeah yeah.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And then I would wear nice clothes because I worked
- 4:08Speaker 2: at JAYC Pennies. And then I was sitting in the
- 4:10Speaker 2: mall at lunch, you know, eating the uh there at
- 4:14Speaker 2: the food court is so what that's called? And then
- 4:17Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know, I feel like I
- 4:19Speaker 2: just looked like this helpless young black man.
- 4:21Speaker 3: You know, so you wear like a suit, yeah yeah, yeah,
- 4:24Speaker 3: all right.
- 4:24Speaker 2: So they would come up to me be like, hey man,
- 4:26Speaker 2: let me sit down, talk to your brother, and then
- 4:28Speaker 2: start asking me questions, and you know, I'm trying to
- 4:30Speaker 2: be nice and then they start, you know, they say,
- 4:32Speaker 2: you know, do you want more out of life? Because
- 4:33Speaker 2: they know I ain't making no money at jac Pennies.
- 4:35Speaker 2: And then they would, you know, get me to come
- 4:37Speaker 2: to this house. I went to this house at night
- 4:39Speaker 2: and it was like all these people there and then
- 4:42Speaker 2: I'm like, this ain't no real company, and it was
- 4:44Speaker 2: like we were selling credit cards, but it was like
- 4:46Speaker 2: not no major credit cards.
- 4:48Speaker 3: It was weird credit card company being run out of
- 4:50Speaker 3: a house.
- 4:51Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a customer service. But that was my first
- 4:56Speaker 2: introduction to scams and it never really left. Felt like
- 5:00Speaker 2: I kept getting approached and then for some reason, I.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Was you're pretty far along with it if you made
- 5:05Speaker 1: it to the house where they were they doing the
- 5:07Speaker 1: credit card.
- 5:08Speaker 2: I was actually scared because the come on his podcast.
- 5:10Speaker 2: I'm probably the person who's the most I don't know
- 5:13Speaker 2: if you have like scammers come on, but I'm definitely
- 5:16Speaker 2: like the victim, Like, yeah, I'm a mark.
- 5:18Speaker 4: Is that what they call?
- 5:19Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 5:19Speaker 2: Because I'm so I believe in the good and all people,
- 5:23Speaker 2: so like you'm always giving people the benefit of doubt.
- 5:25Speaker 2: So the guy's like, you know, we're gonna get you
- 5:27Speaker 2: some work and get you a better opportunity. I'm just
- 5:29Speaker 2: assuming that to do that for me.
- 5:31Speaker 3: You don't know how excited.
- 5:34Speaker 2: What's gonna happen?
- 5:35Speaker 1: We haven't listened. I got a credit card company and
- 5:38Speaker 1: it is run out of my house.
- 5:40Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Work in the garage. People got great benefits.
- 5:47Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 5:48Speaker 3: We haven't had a mark yet.
- 5:49Speaker 1: We've had a lot of scammers and a lot of
- 5:51Speaker 1: people who say that they aren't scammers, and then by
- 5:54Speaker 1: the end they're like, oh my god, I I you know,
- 5:56Speaker 1: I'm a charlatan. I haven't had a genuine mark yet.
- 5:59Speaker 1: You have this beautiful glow in your eyes.
- 6:01Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm too trusted like I got.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I was doing one where we're selling like car wax
- 6:06Speaker 2: at the gas station. You ever see those people they
- 6:08Speaker 2: sell car wax at the gas station and it's like,
- 6:10Speaker 2: you're like, what is this? It's like, first of all,
- 6:14Speaker 2: why are we selling why are we independently selling this
- 6:18Speaker 2: like item? And then at a place that sells it
- 6:20Speaker 2: inside the gas station, and then we have to go
- 6:22Speaker 2: up to the strangers in the car and then do test.
- 6:24Speaker 4: You have to like test it. Have you ever seen this?
- 6:26Speaker 3: You're I'm talking about so y'all was selling it for cheaper.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Yeah, but then we had to do the demonstration in
- 6:32Speaker 2: front of them, and then we would keep how many
- 6:34Speaker 2: depending on how much we sold, we would keep. You know,
- 6:37Speaker 2: how much.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Would you demonstrate?
- 6:38Speaker 1: Like could I get my whole car waxed as a demonstration?
- 6:43Speaker 2: See, that would be See how scammy you are? You
- 6:45Speaker 2: just flipped it on on those guys.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you get involved in that job? Is
- 6:50Speaker 1: it in the Craigslist ad?
- 6:51Speaker 4: Is it a newspaper?
- 6:53Speaker 2: Well, basically when that was when I moved to LA
- 6:55Speaker 2: when basically like you know, when you come out here,
- 6:58Speaker 2: you need a job. Yeah, I would go on Craigslist
- 7:00Speaker 2: and they would say marketing because I had a business degree.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Well actually I had an associates degree in business. And
- 7:06Speaker 2: then I would go on the you know on the
- 7:09Speaker 2: Craigslist and it would say marketing and I'm like, that's
- 7:12Speaker 2: what I want to do, you know what I mean?
- 7:14Speaker 2: Or like, you know, something specific to business. So then
- 7:17Speaker 2: I would call them and then they would everything was
- 7:19Speaker 2: seeming legit and set up like a.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Real right, and then you would get to the house
- 7:22Speaker 3: and then that.
- 7:23Speaker 4: Yeah, whose house is this?
- 7:26Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 7:26Speaker 4: And if you're like where you're going La Warre.
- 7:27Speaker 2: It's like I got to go to this this residential
- 7:30Speaker 2: area for work.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Look, that's just what we work is.
- 7:32Speaker 1: We work is just like one house where everybody get
- 7:34Speaker 1: a bedroom and do whatever.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Cons that they work.
- 7:37Speaker 4: Yeah, we work a scam.
- 7:39Speaker 1: We work as a scam. They just got bought out
- 7:41Speaker 1: because that shit wasn't working.
- 7:42Speaker 3: No more, we work.
- 7:45Speaker 1: We don't work actually scam yeas name too. It was
- 7:48Speaker 1: like we work that'll make people.
- 7:50Speaker 4: Yeah, because we were to make you feel like you're
- 7:52Speaker 4: a part of it.
- 7:52Speaker 2: You know. I went to we work, and I'm like, wait,
- 7:54Speaker 2: this s don't make I can do this at home.
- 7:57Speaker 1: You can't, but we work it.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Okay, that's why it holmes you.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, so I'm a I'm pretty like subceptible
- 8:06Speaker 2: to scams, but I probably shouldn't put that out there
- 8:08Speaker 2: like that.
- 8:11Speaker 3: And my congregation, there's a lot of scammers. They will
- 8:14Speaker 3: hit you up.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Oh no, is it a real Like yes, they will
- 8:18Speaker 1: hit you up and they will try to run scams
- 8:20Speaker 1: like you just be careful if anybody hit you up
- 8:22Speaker 1: talking about they need some milk for their baby or
- 8:25Speaker 1: you know anything, sus.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Don't they won't I will I'm gonna call you. How
- 8:31Speaker 2: about you be my scam? Like like GIRLU like I'll
- 8:35Speaker 2: call you and like you let me know all right,
- 8:36Speaker 2: this is a scam.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Yeah, because I don't want you getting scammed.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I just want you getting involved in my scams, all right.
- 8:42Speaker 1: So which actually brings us to the first segment, Hot
- 8:45Speaker 1: and Fraud, which is where we warn our listeners about
- 8:48Speaker 1: hot new scams on the street and then we see
- 8:50Speaker 1: if we want to get them involved in ours. So
- 8:53Speaker 1: this is actually a scam that Okay, guys on the internet,
- 8:58Speaker 1: you know, we all see like a juicy guy story,
- 9:00Speaker 1: it goes viral on Reddit, we're all talking about it.
- 9:05Speaker 3: I have recently learned that these is scams.
- 9:09Speaker 1: So sometimes people will make up viral content, like especially
- 9:13Speaker 1: on Facebook, and then get it on Reddit, get it everywhere,
- 9:16Speaker 1: and put it in a private group so nobody can
- 9:18Speaker 1: actually tell the origin of where it all came from
- 9:20Speaker 1: for real, just to drive traffic to like a new website,
- 9:24Speaker 1: a new business, a page or anything like that. And
- 9:28Speaker 1: one of the most recent was that everybody's really talking
- 9:30Speaker 1: about and kept tagging me in is the wedding scam. Okay, okay,
- 9:35Speaker 1: but the story is still fun, so I'm still going.
- 9:37Speaker 3: To read into you guys, but it is so.
- 9:41Speaker 1: This is the first message that comes from the bread.
- 9:43Speaker 1: HI invite teats to this wedding. This is the bread,
- 9:47Speaker 1: and then it has like the pertinent information blocked out.
- 9:49Speaker 1: After much reflection and tear filled conversation with our closest
- 9:52Speaker 1: family members, we've decided to cancel our upcoming winter wedding.
- 9:55Speaker 1: We will further notify the group when we are in
- 9:57Speaker 1: a better place to reschedule. We thank each every one
- 10:00Speaker 1: of you for your generous donations to our money fund.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Can you believe we have raised over thirty thousand dollars unbelievable.
- 10:06Speaker 3: Don't worry. The money you've donated will not be spent
- 10:08Speaker 3: in vain, but rather used towards a honeymoon in the
- 10:11Speaker 3: coming months, after we regain financial stability and hold calm
- 10:14Speaker 3: in our hearts. After our honeymoon, we will announce a
- 10:18Speaker 3: new wedding date and reopen our money fund for any
- 10:21Speaker 3: further gifts. Weddings are expensive, we are blessed to have
- 10:25Speaker 3: generous family members with these large donations. Please stay tuned
- 10:29Speaker 3: and in the meantime, we'll be updating our gift registry
- 10:31Speaker 3: on Amazon. If anyone would like to give us something
- 10:34Speaker 3: to take on our honeymoon. If you have any ideas
- 10:35Speaker 3: where we should go, please dm me and Edward Wow.
- 10:40Speaker 3: As mentioned, We'll keep you updated with the new money
- 10:43Speaker 3: fund and the new wedding in the works. Don't be
- 10:45Speaker 3: too sad.
- 10:45Speaker 1: New wedding is going to be a hit.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Love you, Sham pam A new fan wasn't gonna get
- 10:51Speaker 2: married bad?
- 10:53Speaker 4: Did it say weddings are expensive?
- 10:56Speaker 3: Way?
- 11:00Speaker 4: What that was written?
- 11:01Speaker 2: Really believable? Right?
- 11:02Speaker 1: Yeah? And but here's the crazy thing though, that like
- 11:05Speaker 1: there are crowd funds happening for weddings, This is not
- 11:08Speaker 1: actually that bizarre. And if the wedding just did it happen,
- 11:11Speaker 1: I would probably be pissed if I gave you my
- 11:13Speaker 1: fucking coins. And I'm expected to get a chicken or
- 11:16Speaker 1: a fish plate, right, and I'm gonna dance, you know,
- 11:20Speaker 1: and hopefully find like a bachelor there, I'm gonna find
- 11:23Speaker 1: a man like you're fucking up all my bags. I
- 11:25Speaker 1: was supposed to come, get a meal, get drunk, find
- 11:28Speaker 1: a new love interest who's like all full of whimsy
- 11:31Speaker 1: because he just watched two niggas getting married then we
- 11:33Speaker 1: was gonna at least make out. He was probably gonna
- 11:36Speaker 1: touch my boob. Now I'm not gonna have none of that.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a real shame.
- 11:40Speaker 3: I would be mad.
- 11:41Speaker 2: So uh so I don't understand. So it's basically like
- 11:45Speaker 2: we're all you were. Is it sent to people that
- 11:47Speaker 2: were invited? Yeah? People?
- 11:49Speaker 3: And this is a private Facebook girl.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Okay.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Now I'm telling y' all that I think.
- 11:53Speaker 1: This whole thing is a scam in itself, But I
- 11:55Speaker 1: just thought the concept was so fascinating and I get
- 11:58Speaker 1: why these are so like we are so interest in
- 12:00Speaker 1: them because like these do happen and people use gofunding
- 12:03Speaker 1: money for the wrong reason all the time. It's like
- 12:06Speaker 1: no one can actually tell you what to do with
- 12:08Speaker 1: the money.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy that gofummy is being corrupted like that,
- 12:13Speaker 2: I mean, is it? I don't know. I feel like
- 12:17Speaker 2: you're right though. It's like like people be just texting
- 12:20Speaker 2: you now like hey man, I'm hurting, like you know,
- 12:23Speaker 2: I gotta go fund me. I'm like, wait, like are
- 12:26Speaker 2: you asking me for money just through this.
- 12:28Speaker 1: But asking through a website link so that it is
- 12:31Speaker 1: personal Yeah, and more professional.
- 12:34Speaker 3: And you also feel badly right now, I.
- 12:36Speaker 4: Feel like I'm doing some good by sending you to.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Right And also it's crazy because it's like a mass
- 12:42Speaker 1: text for just hitting niggas up.
- 12:43Speaker 3: Like I remember when you had to like really garrabble.
- 12:47Speaker 1: You have to garble for some coins. You'd have to
- 12:50Speaker 1: text people or you have to call them. You have
- 12:51Speaker 1: to call them when they're vulnerable, like at eight PM
- 12:53Speaker 1: right after supper.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I am vulnerable right there. Every time at APM.
- 12:58Speaker 2: I was like, I hope don't want to ask me
- 12:59Speaker 2: for I think because I will give it.
- 13:01Speaker 1: To cause you're a little tired your chest dates, so
- 13:03Speaker 1: you probably got the itist and I know that you
- 13:05Speaker 1: probably have a little empathy in your heart for me,
- 13:07Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I call you up
- 13:09Speaker 1: and be like, oh, you know, I gotta tell you
- 13:11Speaker 1: the long ass story. I gotta tell everybody the SOB story.
- 13:14Speaker 1: How many times you have to tell? I know, But
- 13:16Speaker 1: I felt I sound like a baby boomer right now.
- 13:17Speaker 1: But I know baby boomers are mad about go for.
- 13:19Speaker 3: Me because now everybody can look at your SOB story.
- 13:21Speaker 3: They can't look at the news.
- 13:23Speaker 1: If you got some news clippings, ooh, bitch, don't have
- 13:25Speaker 1: a link to like a K T. L A or
- 13:27Speaker 1: ABC or something. Now you got some legitimacy or a video.
- 13:31Speaker 3: People got a video.
- 13:31Speaker 2: I want to go on because it's a wedding and
- 13:33Speaker 2: you feel it tugs on your emotion because you know,
- 13:36Speaker 2: weddings are so emotional. It really kind of like you
- 13:38Speaker 2: feel sad. You know, it's like damn, like the wedding,
- 13:41Speaker 2: they're not gonna be able to have it. Like what
- 13:42Speaker 2: can I do to help? You know? I feel bad
- 13:45Speaker 2: that I just remember it. I didn't get a wedding
- 13:47Speaker 2: gift from my friend because I was in the wedding.
- 13:51Speaker 2: I didn't I was supposed to donate to the honeymoon.
- 13:53Speaker 1: You got undercar lights. How you're gonna not get your
- 13:55Speaker 1: friend to give me ho?
- 13:56Speaker 2: Ain't gonna put that out there like that? Just tell
- 13:59Speaker 2: the world I got under Carl likes this.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Nigga got under car lights.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Ain't over skimping old Nigga's wedding.
- 14:04Speaker 2: No, I forgot, but I will do it today. We'll
- 14:07Speaker 2: do it, even though I think they already came back
- 14:08Speaker 2: from the honeymoon. So I will donate. I will give
- 14:11Speaker 2: them some.
- 14:11Speaker 3: The gift is a gift, goes.
- 14:16Speaker 2: God.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Okay, So this goes on a little bit.
- 14:22Speaker 1: People start to respond to this, and one person says,
- 14:26Speaker 1: I took off a week of work, donated one hundred dollars,
- 14:28Speaker 1: and now you're telling me that you're going to use
- 14:30Speaker 1: thirty thousand fucking dollars for a honeymoon before a wedding.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Are you insane?
- 14:34Speaker 1: You got your lump sum and you say, austill Levisa
- 14:37Speaker 1: to your family and friends, thirty k is a financial
- 14:39Speaker 1: like these are hot, spicy white people, angry words still
- 14:45Speaker 1: a vista.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they pull the big guns out.
- 14:48Speaker 3: Wait till I hear malarkey.
- 14:49Speaker 4: That's how I.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Malarkey. She took a week off, I should get to
- 14:56Speaker 2: take a week off of work for a week.
- 14:58Speaker 1: That's crazy, because she was telling me she was about
- 15:00Speaker 1: to go get her life. She was gonna get her
- 15:02Speaker 1: nails done, her hair, everything did.
- 15:05Speaker 3: She was about to get up.
- 15:06Speaker 1: She was going to the bash, the Red Party, was
- 15:07Speaker 1: going to probably see some sexy men wagon dick around there.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Then she was gonna go. It was gonna be a
- 15:13Speaker 1: horned up week for this woman.
- 15:14Speaker 3: Yeah, she just fucked that all up.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Yea, that's she an't again? No her horn up? Where's
- 15:19Speaker 2: that horny energy.
- 15:21Speaker 3: To this angry message. This is my favorite part of it.
- 15:25Speaker 1: She says, you're gonna need a few months to regain
- 15:28Speaker 1: financial stability. And then the cherry on the cake is
- 15:31Speaker 1: you have the motherfucking Christ on a bike's audacity to
- 15:34Speaker 1: request or gifts.
- 15:38Speaker 4: Christ.
- 15:40Speaker 2: I love that. Oh my god, there's nothing more on that,
- 15:44Speaker 2: she said, Jesus Christ on a bike.
- 15:46Speaker 3: Nothing.
- 15:47Speaker 1: The man can walk up water, yeah, he don't need
- 15:51Speaker 1: no bike.
- 15:52Speaker 4: Yeah if it could turn one in a wine, but
- 15:53Speaker 4: he needs a bike.
- 15:55Speaker 2: Nah.
- 15:56Speaker 1: So this goes on and like people are like threatening
- 15:58Speaker 1: her and are like, send us our money back, run
- 15:59Speaker 1: me my coins, and she's like, somebody put this on
- 16:02Speaker 1: Reddit and.
- 16:02Speaker 3: It blew up, and now I had to go to
- 16:05Speaker 3: the hospital. She goes, I had to go to the hospital.
- 16:07Speaker 4: Wait, who's saying that?
- 16:08Speaker 1: Hood Oh, So after this goes viral, she's saying I
- 16:12Speaker 1: had to go to the hospital because I had a
- 16:14Speaker 1: panic attack and the hospital cost me seven hundred.
- 16:19Speaker 3: And eighty dollars seven hundred.
- 16:23Speaker 1: He says, thank god, you'll be forced to pay for
- 16:26Speaker 1: that with the money fund, and she's like, do not
- 16:27Speaker 1: contact me. Then she goes and you can fuck She
- 16:31Speaker 1: says I can't believe that I've had to draw of
- 16:33Speaker 1: this because of your slander's attacks for my own family
- 16:36Speaker 1: and friends. And now you can put the two thousand
- 16:38Speaker 1: dollars bill. I don't care. The bill went up in
- 16:40Speaker 1: the second paragrapt two thousand. It was seven sixty five in.
- 16:43Speaker 4: The first that was that was crazy.
- 16:46Speaker 1: That was two thousand, and then by the end of
- 16:48Speaker 1: this she's like, in the meantime, please consider donating any
- 16:51Speaker 1: spat personal care items to my home address if you
- 16:54Speaker 1: care about me at all. We've lost close to three
- 16:56Speaker 1: thousand dollars from the money fund due to medical ex business.
- 16:59Speaker 1: The fourth paragraph, it's now three thousand dollars day.
- 17:03Speaker 2: So as you read it, you just see your pocket
- 17:06Speaker 2: strength as you keep going. All right, So let me ask,
- 17:09Speaker 2: because you know, I don't really know that's that's a
- 17:12Speaker 2: pretty good scam. If you know, what do you think?
- 17:15Speaker 2: Is that like a good scam? Or is that would
- 17:17Speaker 2: you see right through that right away?
- 17:19Speaker 1: So it all kind of starts to look a little
- 17:21Speaker 1: fishy when you look at the comments, the timeframe, the
- 17:25Speaker 1: way that things are written. Yeah, and also the fact
- 17:27Speaker 1: that there's like no likes or like angry faces on
- 17:30Speaker 1: anybody's comments. There's no way for us to tell that
- 17:33Speaker 1: there was any real interaction happening between the people, but
- 17:37Speaker 1: it was just slowly being released by someone.
- 17:40Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the whole.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Story was the first story on this website's page. Ever,
- 17:46Speaker 1: so it seems as though they were just trying to
- 17:48Speaker 1: drive traffic with this fake story. But it's a good
- 17:50Speaker 1: one because I was entertained, Like, y'all, I like this scam.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that was it italic. I felt like I
- 17:57Speaker 2: could see the wedding. I was I mean, I was
- 17:59Speaker 2: seeing everything, the relationship and how it fell apart, and
- 18:02Speaker 2: like her in the hospital, I was picturing that panic attack. Right,
- 18:05Speaker 2: is this a heart attack? It's definitely a heart attack.
- 18:07Speaker 2: And then the fiance is like, no.
- 18:09Speaker 4: Baby, this is a panic attack.
- 18:10Speaker 2: And they don't even know what to agree on, and
- 18:12Speaker 2: he's like, look, I'm just going to the hospital because.
- 18:14Speaker 3: I don't take from the money fund, right.
- 18:17Speaker 2: But we can't think about it right there because your
- 18:19Speaker 2: heart rateers have once seven.
- 18:20Speaker 1: It's okay.
- 18:21Speaker 3: When we go to the hospital.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Then we'll tell everyone went to the hospital and that
- 18:23Speaker 1: they need to donate more money or and or spa supplies.
- 18:27Speaker 2: That's a good idea, and that's why I'm going to
- 18:29Speaker 2: marry you.
- 18:29Speaker 4: Yes, I love you, so I love you.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Too, and you're rich.
- 18:32Speaker 3: Uncle.
- 18:32Speaker 1: We thought could never get anything out of there because
- 18:34Speaker 1: there's one guy who's like, I paid for me and
- 18:36Speaker 1: my whole family, and he done it at twelve thousand dollars.
- 18:38Speaker 3: I was like, twelve thousand dollars. What it calls you
- 18:40Speaker 3: your whole family to go to the wedding.
- 18:41Speaker 4: How many motherfucker family members you got?
- 18:43Speaker 2: So crazy? Wow?
- 18:45Speaker 3: But people are like very particular about that.
- 18:46Speaker 1: One of my best friends is about to get married,
- 18:48Speaker 1: and she was saying, like, I'm only giving plus ones
- 18:50Speaker 1: to people who have been in a relationship for five
- 18:53Speaker 1: years or more.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Wow.
- 18:54Speaker 1: I was like, damn, So I'm just having to bring
- 18:56Speaker 1: my lonely ass to your wedding, like buy myself, I bring.
- 18:59Speaker 3: A side day.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Five years is a long time. I mean that's basically
- 19:02Speaker 2: like they should be getting married. I mean on the
- 19:04Speaker 2: verge of that and then.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Like married or you have to be in a relationship
- 19:07Speaker 1: for five years. So I either got to be carry
- 19:09Speaker 1: fucking Bradshaw here big breaking my heart right in my back.
- 19:13Speaker 2: What if it's somebody you dated for five years, but
- 19:16Speaker 2: y'all broke up. But then you looking up and bring
- 19:20Speaker 2: them back.
- 19:21Speaker 3: King right now, Yeah, he's like, no.
- 19:24Speaker 4: Y'all not, y'all not committed.
- 19:26Speaker 2: This, don't worry. But my cousin she got when she
- 19:28Speaker 2: got married, she she said, the rule is they can't
- 19:31Speaker 2: be if you bring a plus one, they just have
- 19:34Speaker 2: had to have met them at one time. So if
- 19:36Speaker 2: you're in their life, if they're in your life enough,
- 19:38Speaker 2: they should have met you. So that means if you
- 19:41Speaker 2: kept be having people, you're keeping the side and you're
- 19:42Speaker 2: not bringing them around. You don't bring them on your
- 19:44Speaker 2: friends the face time in the moment, like after wedding,
- 19:50Speaker 2: you're like, this is him, he's on his way.
- 19:53Speaker 1: You're like, oh, technically you've met. That's how I get
- 19:56Speaker 1: around that scam. I'll be like, but you already here, y'all.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Like I get it, it's wedding. You don't want to feed people.
- 20:01Speaker 1: But also I'm like, can there just be an option?
- 20:03Speaker 1: Why just slide you to fifty five dollars? But they
- 20:04Speaker 1: played this because this is just like.
- 20:06Speaker 2: I know, yeah, just give it that. I'll give you
- 20:07Speaker 2: an extra money for it. Right.
- 20:09Speaker 4: That actually seems like a good idea.
- 20:10Speaker 3: But these are millennial problems. It's time from my favorite
- 20:13Speaker 3: segment of this show. I say that every week Historic Hoodwings.
- 20:17Speaker 1: So this is where I'm gonna regale Lamar the famous scam,
- 20:20Speaker 1: and we're just gonna break it down and talk about
- 20:22Speaker 1: me as much commentary as you want this one, guys. Okay,
- 20:25Speaker 1: y'all all tagged me in this on Twitter. I got
- 20:27Speaker 1: tagged in this scam so many times on Twitter that
- 20:30Speaker 1: I'm doing this episode early and releasing it early.
- 20:33Speaker 3: You guys are killing me. I love you so much.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Also leave us five stars, guys, because angry white men
- 20:38Speaker 1: are ruining my review. Don't let every white man scam
- 20:40Speaker 1: me out of a five star rating.
- 20:42Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
- 20:43Speaker 2: Please don't right.
- 20:44Speaker 1: I'm a black woman. Y'all got to help me. Okay,
- 20:46Speaker 1: Trump is president and my life is too hard.
- 20:48Speaker 2: You know that Trump. That's the biggest scam.
- 20:51Speaker 3: He is and I can't even talk about him America.
- 20:53Speaker 3: He's oh god, Oh.
- 20:55Speaker 1: I could do like a twenty part episode on Trump,
- 20:56Speaker 1: but I just can't praise him for that shit.
- 20:58Speaker 3: Maybe when he's out of office.
- 21:00Speaker 4: Yeah, you should do like the a after he's out,
- 21:03Speaker 4: like a scam.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Got t Lizzie first day out. Yes, okay, so this
- 21:08Speaker 1: is a historic hoodwink and it is about a nationwide
- 21:12Speaker 1: airbnb scam.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Have you ever used an Airbnb?
- 21:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I've used it where What's I've used it in?
- 21:20Speaker 2: Actually Spain actually when I was Airbnb and Barcelona in Barcelona, Blona. Yeah,
- 21:27Speaker 2: it was very nice. It was cool.
- 21:29Speaker 3: I feel like the Airbnbs that I've had abroad have
- 21:31Speaker 3: been pretty nice. Actually.
- 21:32Speaker 1: I think I used one in Paris once and ended
- 21:34Speaker 1: up being a bed and breakfast and like they had
- 21:36Speaker 1: the best croissants, which is like the most American thing
- 21:39Speaker 1: to say.
- 21:39Speaker 2: But it was like, so they had they had some
- 21:43Speaker 2: good croissants in Paris. Listen, believe tell me how Paris
- 21:49Speaker 2: was man the croissants.
- 21:51Speaker 3: So they doing something different to them over there.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Okay, but yeah, I did an AIRBBB there and I
- 21:55Speaker 2: did an Airbnb that was why did I feel like
- 21:57Speaker 2: that was young time? I don't know. I did win
- 21:59Speaker 2: in the York went in Brooklyn too, so that yeah, there.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Was a Okay, Brooklyn feels like that's where it. We're
- 22:04Speaker 1: probably getting a little scammery, you.
- 22:05Speaker 2: Know what I mean? It was. I mean, I don't
- 22:06Speaker 2: want to stop your theme, but.
- 22:08Speaker 3: Oh yeah it did.
- 22:09Speaker 2: Shady Man issue was so whack. It was like so
- 22:13Speaker 2: in the picture it said it was like an artist
- 22:15Speaker 2: laft right, and it was like all white and it
- 22:17Speaker 2: looked beautiful, like you could see the whole city, and
- 22:20Speaker 2: I was like, I want to stay here. So then
- 22:23Speaker 2: when I got there, it was definitely like a homeless man.
- 22:26Speaker 2: It was like that. It was like, first there was
- 22:28Speaker 2: a person, the person was not leaving. I mean, I
- 22:31Speaker 2: think that might be normal to New York airbnbs, but
- 22:33Speaker 2: like she was in there.
- 22:34Speaker 4: It was also it was like.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Completely in the hood and it was like rats everywhere.
- 22:39Speaker 4: I saw like three rats when I walked in.
- 22:41Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the rats neighborhood, like you stepped it today. Home.
- 22:45Speaker 2: It was.
- 22:48Speaker 4: Like they were like, you're not supposed to do that.
- 22:50Speaker 2: That's illegal. So then I get aside and they have
- 22:54Speaker 2: one of those cats. And I don't know if you
- 22:56Speaker 2: know this about me, but I'm terrified at cats. So
- 22:59Speaker 2: I try to say allergic, not terrified, but so but
- 23:03Speaker 2: I can tolerate them. But this was the one that
- 23:05Speaker 2: doesn't have any hair. It was like, yeah, it was
- 23:11Speaker 2: discussing no offense if you like cats.
- 23:13Speaker 3: But we do love cats. I love cats.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Sorry, it's okay, but for just keep in mind, I
- 23:19Speaker 2: was paying to be at this place, so it's like
- 23:21Speaker 2: I had to. It was like I was in a
- 23:23Speaker 2: small room and the cat was all over me, and
- 23:26Speaker 2: then I had to get out of there.
- 23:27Speaker 3: I just was all over you.
- 23:28Speaker 1: They didn't even just like put the cat in the room.
- 23:31Speaker 1: They just let the cat roll.
- 23:32Speaker 2: They just let it like she's she was like, okay,
- 23:34Speaker 2: this is the place, and then left and then left
- 23:36Speaker 2: me with the cat. And I was just sitting in
- 23:37Speaker 2: the house in this in this apartment to watch this
- 23:41Speaker 2: ca yeah, and then cat. But then I left, so
- 23:45Speaker 2: that cat was alone. That cat was alone all night.
- 23:50Speaker 2: So I got out of there. I was like, I'm
- 23:52Speaker 2: out of here. And then I just got a hotel somewhere.
- 23:54Speaker 1: That's so bizarre that no one wants an Airbnb where
- 23:57Speaker 1: there is another person.
- 23:58Speaker 3: I don't want a roommate on air I don't want
- 24:03Speaker 3: I don't want one on vacation.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Is so true, Lacy, That's exactly what I felt. And
- 24:07Speaker 2: also like I don't want to pay to be and
- 24:09Speaker 2: around animals like that. I mean, like even if I
- 24:12Speaker 2: love cats or whatever, I don't want to go into
- 24:15Speaker 2: an airbnb and there'll be animals in there. That seems
- 24:18Speaker 2: like I thought you you.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Should talk about it, So this air you should mention it.
- 24:22Speaker 1: This airbnb very similar, kind of like what we call
- 24:26Speaker 1: a bait and switch in the s game game, the
- 24:29Speaker 1: scam game, I said, scaming game. But we call this
- 24:32Speaker 1: a bait and switch, which basically means like you're offered
- 24:35Speaker 1: one thing and you get something else, which is exactly
- 24:36Speaker 1: like what happened to your story in Brooklyn. Like you
- 24:38Speaker 1: were offered a beautiful loft and what you got was
- 24:40Speaker 1: as a roommate and a cat.
- 24:43Speaker 2: Well, now sounds like a cool deal. It's like I
- 24:45Speaker 2: got you a roommate and a cat. Three yeah.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:49Speaker 1: So basically, these two people decided that they were going
- 24:53Speaker 1: to go to a music festival. And this is a
- 24:57Speaker 1: big story that was in Vice that everybody tagged me
- 24:59Speaker 1: in on Twitter. So the scam came about ten minutes
- 25:02Speaker 1: before we were set to check into this airbnb. This
- 25:05Speaker 1: is in Chicago, he says. I was sitting at a
- 25:07Speaker 1: brewery just around the corner from the rental on north
- 25:10Speaker 1: Wood Street, and the man on the other end of
- 25:12Speaker 1: the line said that our planned visit wouldn't be possible.
- 25:15Speaker 1: A previous guest had flushed something down the toilet, which
- 25:18Speaker 1: had left the unit flooded with water, he explained. Apologetic,
- 25:21Speaker 1: he promised to let us stay in another property he
- 25:23Speaker 1: managed until he could call it plumber. So I think
- 25:26Speaker 1: that this scam is perfect because like, what's the one
- 25:28Speaker 1: thing that could not be functioning at a place that
- 25:31Speaker 1: you would be like, okay, I can't stay there? And
- 25:33Speaker 1: that's like plumbingl or water, Like if you say, yeah,
- 25:36Speaker 1: got water, I'm like okay, but like yeah.
- 25:38Speaker 2: That's like, you know, our biggest fare like with earthquakes,
- 25:40Speaker 2: it's like water, Like not having water in the place. Yeah,
- 25:43Speaker 2: it's like that's like an apopalyptic ruling.
- 25:46Speaker 1: But then it's also one of those things of like
- 25:48Speaker 1: it can be broken and it can be fixed real quick.
- 25:51Speaker 1: It's not like you said the bitch burned down. Like
- 25:52Speaker 1: you can't come back from saying something burned down. You
- 25:54Speaker 1: can be like, okay, are you at this airbnb?
- 25:56Speaker 4: Like this kitchen is charred, but you know, yeah, it.
- 25:59Speaker 1: Actually burnt down. So you can't stay here. You can't
- 26:02Speaker 1: call the next day and be like you know what,
- 26:04Speaker 1: we got everything back up and running.
- 26:06Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, though, It's like plumbers are on deck constantly.
- 26:09Speaker 2: I know plumbers ready to go. Everywhere I go, I
- 26:12Speaker 2: see a plumber with a wrench ready to fix the ship.
- 26:14Speaker 2: But they, you know, it would clearly like yeah.
- 26:17Speaker 1: You know, yeah, like please put the wrench down. I'm
- 26:22Speaker 1: trying to make love. He was like, I never know
- 26:24Speaker 1: what will call me?
- 26:26Speaker 2: Damn lazy? How you fucking plumbers out here?
- 26:28Speaker 3: Plumbers make good money and they loyal.
- 26:33Speaker 2: Plumber because my toilets stay working.
- 26:36Speaker 3: Listen, I ain't never had no problems.
- 26:39Speaker 2: All that makes sense because if you date me, I
- 26:42Speaker 2: probably can never fix your toilet.
- 26:44Speaker 3: You can't fix my toilet.
- 26:46Speaker 2: See, I offer a lot of things, but fixing plumbing
- 26:50Speaker 2: is not one of them.
- 26:51Speaker 3: That's a shame, truly.
- 26:52Speaker 1: So so this is a good excuse, right, So they
- 26:57Speaker 1: basically decide in a wick pinch that like one, we
- 27:01Speaker 1: don't have enough time to get a hotel right now.
- 27:03Speaker 1: There's a lot of people in town. The rates are
- 27:04Speaker 1: very high obviously, Like if it's ten minutes before you're
- 27:06Speaker 1: about to pull up at the joint, like, you really
- 27:09Speaker 1: don't have a lot of options. So the airbnb guy goes,
- 27:13Speaker 1: don't worry. There's an upside here. He goes, I have
- 27:16Speaker 1: another rental place that is available right now, and it's
- 27:20Speaker 1: in the area.
- 27:21Speaker 2: Wow.
- 27:22Speaker 1: And he said that it's right off the blue line.
- 27:26Speaker 1: It's spacious. And he says that this place, you know,
- 27:32Speaker 1: that means something does He says, it's about three times
- 27:34Speaker 1: bigger and that's the good news. Now.
- 27:37Speaker 3: As if she says, as if he could.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Hear me calculating in my head, how much of a
- 27:40Speaker 1: hass would be to you know, find a hotel and whatever,
- 27:43Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I.
- 27:44Speaker 3: Don't have a lot of time.
- 27:45Speaker 1: You have to decide immediately if you want to change
- 27:48Speaker 1: the reservation.
- 27:50Speaker 3: She has to talk in person.
- 27:51Speaker 1: He said, I'm very busy at my job, employment and
- 27:54Speaker 1: my employment, and I cannot.
- 27:56Speaker 3: Speak on the phone.
- 27:56Speaker 1: And you have to hurry up and decide now. So
- 27:58Speaker 1: also he's put a time strain on this line.
- 28:01Speaker 4: That's real scammy.
- 28:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you need dress like because if
- 28:05Speaker 1: you people are in their right mind, their despo meter
- 28:07Speaker 1: is low, Like you're not going to be desperate enough
- 28:09Speaker 1: to fall for the scam.
- 28:10Speaker 3: But if you got them on the brink of homelessness.
- 28:12Speaker 4: Yeah, then it's like you gotta make a choice.
- 28:15Speaker 5: Flavor taste just right, yeah, delicious, season to perfection scam, So.
- 28:28Speaker 3: I love your left okay o bad.
- 28:31Speaker 1: So the bad news went unstated obviously, and that was
- 28:34Speaker 1: that they had unknowingly stumbled into a nationwide web of deception.
- 28:37Speaker 1: This is what she calls it, that appeared to span
- 28:39Speaker 1: eight cities and nearly one hundred property listings, an undetected
- 28:43Speaker 1: scam created by some person or organization that had figured
- 28:47Speaker 1: out just how easy it was to exploit Airbnb's poorly
- 28:49Speaker 1: written rules in order to collect thousands of dollars through
- 28:52Speaker 1: phony listings, fake reviews, and intimidation.
- 28:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:56Speaker 1: So, considering Airbnb's lack enforcement of its own policies, this
- 29:00Speaker 1: is how they started to turn up. Because it's just
- 29:01Speaker 1: like Uber and Lyft. We're like, yes, we are a company,
- 29:05Speaker 1: but we're also a scam because this is just like
- 29:07Speaker 1: niggas in their own cars picking you up, or these
- 29:11Speaker 1: are people's houses that you're staying in.
- 29:13Speaker 3: It's a scam.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah. It's like, wait, are you saying this
- 29:17Speaker 2: is something I can't get on my own? You know what?
- 29:18Speaker 2: It's like they created a business out of something that
- 29:21Speaker 2: you could just do on your own.
- 29:22Speaker 1: Right, because now it's like we look, we put all
- 29:25Speaker 1: the scammers in one place for you.
- 29:28Speaker 3: Now that's now we're hands off. That's all we need.
- 29:30Speaker 3: May the buyer beware?
- 29:32Speaker 2: Tell me this was because one time, so I did
- 29:33Speaker 2: an Airbnb up and uh, it was in for Thanksgiving.
- 29:38Speaker 2: I had rented a house and then I couldn't get in.
- 29:41Speaker 2: I guess I didn't really get scammed, but I was like,
- 29:44Speaker 2: they have like a code to get the key this
- 29:46Speaker 2: and so, but the code, the code is wrong. So
- 29:49Speaker 2: I was out there for like a long time because
- 29:51Speaker 2: I kept calling the person like I'm stuck out here.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I can't get in the house and I have and
- 29:56Speaker 2: he had to come in and break the break the
- 29:58Speaker 2: lock open to get me in there.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Even know so he written out properties that aren't his.
- 30:02Speaker 2: That's because I was like, it took up a long time,
- 30:05Speaker 2: and I'm like, first of all, how come you don't
- 30:06Speaker 2: know the password? You should know the password to this
- 30:09Speaker 2: luck box? And I was out But I was out
- 30:11Speaker 2: there so long, like saying I was under so much dress. Yeah,
- 30:15Speaker 2: it was out there. It was right around eight o'clock too.
- 30:17Speaker 2: That's I was real vulnerable.
- 30:18Speaker 3: Yes, you know what. It was nighttime.
- 30:20Speaker 1: I'm guessing you probably heard Joe calls and was like, Okay,
- 30:22Speaker 1: I got to wait till it's not too hot. I
- 30:23Speaker 1: can't be breaking into my hairbnb.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Yeah, but we did have facegiving in there, so at
- 30:29Speaker 2: the very least, if somebody would have came in, they
- 30:31Speaker 2: would have been, you know, thankful.
- 30:33Speaker 1: That right, I'm so thankful that you stole this apartment.
- 30:38Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, that sounds a little schedule for anybody.
- 30:41Speaker 1: Times somebody got to break you in the day home.
- 30:43Speaker 1: You know, we're looking out. But so basically, they popped
- 30:48Speaker 1: the address into the new Uber and they take off.
- 30:50Speaker 1: But when the driver approached the drop off location, they
- 30:52Speaker 1: noticed something odd. The exact address didn't exist.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Great.
- 30:57Speaker 1: You know when an address doesn't exist, Yeah, fantastic.
- 31:01Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's not on the map, it's like these
- 31:05Speaker 2: numbers don't are.
- 31:06Speaker 1: On the that's an address. See, I'm sending you more
- 31:08Speaker 1: of a vibe of where that happens.
- 31:10Speaker 2: It's like where you type it in the GPS and
- 31:12Speaker 2: then it does this thing where the map just like
- 31:15Speaker 2: turns into like a big ass road. It's like it's like,
- 31:18Speaker 2: I don't know what this is. It just breaks the
- 31:21Speaker 2: map the GPS right.
- 31:22Speaker 1: Like don't drop a pin to the location like towns
- 31:25Speaker 1: like give me an address.
- 31:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, I truly love it.
- 31:28Speaker 1: He's like it's more of an essence, like you'll know
- 31:30Speaker 1: when you get to the house, you'll feel it. You'll
- 31:32Speaker 1: feel it, you'll know like this is where we're staying,
- 31:35Speaker 1: you know exactly.
- 31:36Speaker 3: I can't explain it.
- 31:37Speaker 1: So so after walking up and down North Kenmore Avenue,
- 31:41Speaker 1: they were able to find a guesthouse hidden in a
- 31:44Speaker 1: back alley that had a keypad.
- 31:46Speaker 2: On the front keep.
- 31:48Speaker 1: So that's how you know they're desperate, because then you
- 31:50Speaker 1: just kept walking up and down the street. At this point,
- 31:52Speaker 1: they're like, I don't know the backyards. Yeah yeah, let's
- 31:55Speaker 1: just go in other people's backyard.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Can imagine what that must have been like, just that feeling.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know these are white people, because if
- 32:02Speaker 1: these were black people, the would be shot on site.
- 32:04Speaker 1: You can't be walking around in no neighborhood back and
- 32:06Speaker 1: forth looking lost as a black Yeah it for that.
- 32:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you would get through that,
- 32:12Speaker 2: going through a backyard like that.
- 32:14Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, there were absolutely the cops would be
- 32:16Speaker 1: called immediately.
- 32:19Speaker 2: And they wouldn't believe the story either. They'd be like,
- 32:20Speaker 2: we do understand. They told me this address. What was
- 32:23Speaker 2: the address.
- 32:24Speaker 1: I don't know the address. They told me it was
- 32:26Speaker 1: a vibe. They told you the address was Yes, that's
- 32:29Speaker 1: what he said. We was supposed to be staying here.
- 32:31Speaker 1: We're supposed to be staying in the other place. But
- 32:32Speaker 1: the toilet burnt down, and now we're here, you know
- 32:35Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, it doesn't even eat. They would
- 32:37Speaker 1: be in jail, you know what I mean. And then
- 32:38Speaker 1: you would have a place to stay and bread and water.
- 32:41Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a true airbnb.
- 32:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:47Speaker 1: So they get in the house and the pantry has
- 32:50Speaker 1: I don't know why this is the first detail they
- 32:51Speaker 1: give about the house, but they say the pantry has
- 32:54Speaker 1: a single.
- 32:54Speaker 2: Body of tree. Oh yeah, they are white.
- 32:57Speaker 3: They are white.
- 32:58Speaker 4: The first thing he's like, hey, let's go check out
- 33:00Speaker 4: the pantry right away.
- 33:01Speaker 2: All right?
- 33:02Speaker 3: So not the bedroom. I'm not like any like.
- 33:06Speaker 2: What is it?
- 33:06Speaker 4: What's the first place check where you're going to an airbnb?
- 33:09Speaker 1: The bedroom?
- 33:10Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, where am I going to sit? Yeah?
- 33:11Speaker 1: Where am I going to sleep? Especially if I'm going with
- 33:12Speaker 1: other people? I have to real housewives? It and really
- 33:15Speaker 1: make sure I meani leaks it and get the best room.
- 33:17Speaker 4: I think that pantry is the last person place.
- 33:19Speaker 1: I'm not expecting anything to be in there when they're
- 33:22Speaker 1: looking for like fresh per simmons.
- 33:24Speaker 2: Like, what do you think this is? Bro? We gotta
- 33:26Speaker 2: make sure to write snacks are here before so they.
- 33:28Speaker 3: Go the pantry housed a single bottle of soy sauce.
- 33:31Speaker 2: Okay, oh that is sketchy though. That's weird as fuck,
- 33:37Speaker 2: Like they took everything out.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Why is that the only thing in pantry?
- 33:41Speaker 2: It is weird and they should be looking at the
- 33:43Speaker 2: pantry first because that would have told me right away
- 33:45Speaker 2: to get the hell out of it.
- 33:46Speaker 1: What kind of people are living there? You're right about that,
- 33:50Speaker 1: because if I open up, it's just soy sauce. I'm like,
- 33:52Speaker 1: all these people order this Chinese takeout?
- 33:54Speaker 4: Is it a bottle of soy sauce or like packets?
- 33:56Speaker 4: Because that's packets?
- 33:57Speaker 1: Is even packets?
- 33:57Speaker 3: Is even sketchier?
- 33:58Speaker 2: Yeah, yea?
- 33:59Speaker 3: Why do you keep it them in the pantry?
- 34:01Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I understand why they would be
- 34:03Speaker 2: in a pantry, but I don't stand why they would
- 34:05Speaker 2: be the only thing left in a pantry it.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Was just a bottle of soy sauce and it was
- 34:08Speaker 1: and I guess it just doesn't get old, but it
- 34:09Speaker 1: is a bottle, they said. The couch looked nothing like
- 34:12Speaker 1: the one in the photos. The bedrooms were filled with
- 34:15Speaker 1: a large number of bizarrely arranged beds.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Wow.
- 34:19Speaker 1: Okay.
- 34:20Speaker 3: The whole place felt grimy, and there was a hole
- 34:22Speaker 3: punched in a wall.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Oh wow. The only decor was a giant wooden cross
- 34:28Speaker 1: and a few pieces of generic Chicago themed artwork. And
- 34:33Speaker 1: the dining room was like overstock dot com barstools that
- 34:37Speaker 1: looks like they would turn to dust if you sat
- 34:39Speaker 1: on them.
- 34:39Speaker 2: Wow, this person is a really good writer.
- 34:43Speaker 1: I mean she writes for Vice. Oh yeah, Flynn Ryder,
- 34:46Speaker 1: what's her name? Shout out to a queen Ali Kanti.
- 34:52Speaker 4: Like your descriptive words, but.
- 34:54Speaker 3: It was these hatch of teals come on through.
- 34:58Speaker 2: So this Chicago art artwork is interested, I know, I
- 35:02Speaker 2: think I know what they're referring to. Those paintings that
- 35:05Speaker 2: are like they's just like the skyline of Chicago. Yeah,
- 35:08Speaker 2: that kind of shit.
- 35:09Speaker 1: But what's crazy is is like, why even make an
- 35:12Speaker 1: attempt at decorating if it's already that bad.
- 35:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well they it's not much of a
- 35:17Speaker 2: decoration if that's if they're just putting up skylines.
- 35:20Speaker 1: They were like, let's go to Ross get a couple
- 35:23Speaker 1: of Chicago paintings on.
- 35:24Speaker 2: Sale them Chans is probably like ten dollars. I mean,
- 35:27Speaker 2: I guess you can.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Find Oh yeah, you can't get them at the gas
- 35:30Speaker 1: station you ride about that. See, I don't know them.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Are you might be a scammer?
- 35:33Speaker 3: Wait?
- 35:33Speaker 2: I feel like I've become more scam like through this podcast.
- 35:36Speaker 3: That's what we want to happen. That's the cool.
- 35:38Speaker 2: We're going to walk out of here and.
- 35:40Speaker 3: Start doing fraud. I love it. I'd love to see it.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Right. So, with the first day of my vacation basically gone,
- 35:50Speaker 1: I decided to let the whole thing slide because like,
- 35:52Speaker 1: what do you do at that point, Like you just
- 35:54Speaker 1: need a roof over your head. You're not going to
- 35:55Speaker 1: be there a long term.
- 35:56Speaker 2: Yeah, and they have been walking so wait, so the
- 36:00Speaker 2: they didn't even call the guy, call the person or
- 36:02Speaker 2: they don't have it.
- 36:03Speaker 3: I said, he couldn't be talking on the phone, and
- 36:04Speaker 3: they he was at work.
- 36:05Speaker 1: He was at his employment, you know, the house that
- 36:09Speaker 1: he works at, making credit cards.
- 36:12Speaker 2: I'm at my employment right now.
- 36:13Speaker 3: I'm at my employment. Okay, I can't talk. I'm at
- 36:16Speaker 3: my employment.
- 36:17Speaker 2: God damn it.
- 36:18Speaker 3: I was like a joke from a Florida girl.
- 36:21Speaker 1: I'm currently at my employment right there. Yeah, oh god,
- 36:25Speaker 1: that is how high my voice is on that show.
- 36:27Speaker 3: Whoa God? Bless y'all?
- 36:29Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, So they got a text from the
- 36:32Speaker 1: man the next day who said that the plumbing at
- 36:35Speaker 1: the original how rental hadn't been fixed, but that new
- 36:39Speaker 1: tenants were moving into our flophouse the next day. So
- 36:44Speaker 1: they weren't quite sure what to do, so they booked
- 36:45Speaker 1: a hotel and decided to deal with getting a refund later.
- 36:48Speaker 1: So Jesus, you know what I think this man is
- 36:52Speaker 1: doing now that I'm thinking about it.
- 36:54Speaker 3: This is a tight rotation.
- 36:56Speaker 1: So you sign up to go to this nice place
- 36:59Speaker 1: with all these picture and ship right. Either he's double
- 37:02Speaker 1: booking in and he really owns this property and he's
- 37:05Speaker 1: just having like the first wave coming and he'll be
- 37:07Speaker 1: like the toilet is fucked up, but still secure the
- 37:09Speaker 1: bag and then put them in this like flophouse right right.
- 37:12Speaker 1: Or he just keeps saying the rentals available and then
- 37:16Speaker 1: ten minutes before people try to go, he says the
- 37:19Speaker 1: toilet is broken, and then he rotates them to the
- 37:21Speaker 1: flophouse is the only house that he got, and then
- 37:26Speaker 1: he's just getting people in there for one night a piece,
- 37:28Speaker 1: but they booking whole weeknd and that's smart. Oh, I'm
- 37:35Speaker 1: like moaning, good, that's crazy. That's what he's doing, because
- 37:40Speaker 1: that's how you got to bounce out the next couple.
- 37:42Speaker 2: Right, He's like, look, you know, because nobody's gonna say
- 37:45Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm gonna stay here if the plumb is
- 37:47Speaker 2: not working, So everybody at everything, he's almost guarantee that
- 37:50Speaker 2: they're going to go.
- 37:50Speaker 1: To the see if he was fucking with me, I'm like,
- 37:52Speaker 1: that's cool, I'll ship outside.
- 37:56Speaker 3: The keys the lawn.
- 37:58Speaker 4: I'm sure you want to do that.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Y'all got sharman my Heimi's clean, okay, how.
- 38:04Speaker 2: But the flophouse has a toilet?
- 38:06Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I really like the views so much.
- 38:09Speaker 2: Fucking the plumber, so I know.
- 38:12Speaker 3: Right, I tell them, look, I'm with the plumber that
- 38:14Speaker 3: I'm fucking he got it rich.
- 38:15Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you guys are staycationing together. Come on, baby,
- 38:19Speaker 2: let's let's get let's get an air you know what it.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Was to get his brush through airport security. Okay, wasn't
- 38:25Speaker 1: having it.
- 38:26Speaker 2: But I love plumbers that carry their tools everywhere, like
- 38:29Speaker 2: through the airport.
- 38:30Speaker 1: Obviously I've never met a plumber because this is what
- 38:32Speaker 1: I assume that they're doing.
- 38:34Speaker 2: Yeahah, whish I knew more plumbers. We don't know.
- 38:37Speaker 4: I don't know any I don't roll with no plumbers.
- 38:39Speaker 3: You don't roll with no plumber.
- 38:41Speaker 2: I got it. I think back home, maybe back in.
- 38:43Speaker 3: The right, get you some homies with vocational skills.
- 38:45Speaker 4: Yeah, all my homies are creative.
- 38:47Speaker 1: The two we ain't got no skills heartbreak.
- 38:50Speaker 2: Yeah, they know how to recite a poem. But yeah,
- 38:52Speaker 2: not gonna be all change the time. I have to
- 38:55Speaker 2: get somewhere. Yeah, somewhere labor. That's not going to blue
- 38:58Speaker 2: collar homies yet.
- 38:59Speaker 1: Right. So, the last time that they heard from Becky
- 39:03Speaker 1: and Andrew, which is the name of the airbnb hosts,
- 39:07Speaker 1: they sent a strange message on Airbnb asking that I
- 39:10Speaker 1: give them no less than a five star review since
- 39:12Speaker 1: Airbnb had changed its algorithm and communicate all concerns privately.
- 39:18Speaker 1: So now they're like, hey, we know we didn't let
- 39:20Speaker 1: you stay in the place that we told you we
- 39:22Speaker 1: have for you that doesn't exist. Then we sent you
- 39:25Speaker 1: to the hood to search for a place that murderers
- 39:28Speaker 1: live in. Then we kicked you out.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Yeah, but go ahead and get that five stuff.
- 39:33Speaker 2: So they could keep the Sam scam going, right, man,
- 39:36Speaker 2: that's real Christy.
- 39:37Speaker 4: So what did they do?
- 39:38Speaker 2: What happened next?
- 39:39Speaker 1: So on Airbnb, there's this intimidation factor and I recently
- 39:45Speaker 1: dealt with this when after my birthday party, I did
- 39:47Speaker 1: rent an Airbnb out, but I rented went out that
- 39:49Speaker 1: was four parties, like a mansioned four parties that specifically
- 39:52Speaker 1: said that they did parties and music video shoots.
- 39:54Speaker 4: I was trying to go in it.
- 39:58Speaker 1: Oh my god. He started running it like the club.
- 40:00Speaker 1: He had a gate clicker. He was at my party
- 40:02Speaker 1: the entire time. He was drinking my food, he was eating,
- 40:04Speaker 1: he was using the photo booth. It was crazy.
- 40:07Speaker 3: It was it was just.
- 40:10Speaker 1: White man, and he was taking pictures of me the
- 40:12Speaker 1: whole time and all my friends. Obviously we're in an
- 40:14Speaker 1: entertainment industry, so many people were there who are on
- 40:16Speaker 1: TV or working you know, movie and television film.
- 40:18Speaker 3: He's taking unsolicited photos of them. Just a mad at a.
- 40:21Speaker 1: Party, just like a lot of cool Hollywood young people
- 40:23Speaker 1: and this really old white man skulking around. I was
- 40:30Speaker 1: trying to be welcoming because we definitely were over the
- 40:32Speaker 1: guest quota, even though we were quiet and everyone was
- 40:35Speaker 1: really just having a good time. But he was like
- 40:37Speaker 1: really being stingy with how he would let people in
- 40:38Speaker 1: and out of the house. I was just trying to
- 40:40Speaker 1: keep him happy, and he was so creepy and so racist.
- 40:43Speaker 3: We had a food truck.
- 40:44Speaker 1: The neighbors were like, that smells ethnic, Like literally texted
- 40:48Speaker 1: him and said that it smelled ethnic.
- 40:50Speaker 3: They had not cooked anything yet.
- 40:52Speaker 1: It was crazy craziness could because you know, it was
- 40:56Speaker 1: like it's the Hills, so it's like racist, like old
- 40:58Speaker 1: school white people. And I could tell that they didn't
- 41:00Speaker 1: even like that he would do these airbnb functions because
- 41:02Speaker 1: they're all old and just like want the neighborhood to
- 41:04Speaker 1: stay quiet and white, right, And he over here bringing
- 41:06Speaker 1: in you know, negroes every other Thursday, and they're probably
- 41:08Speaker 1: mad about it.
- 41:10Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was crazy.
- 41:11Speaker 1: But he intimidated me basically, being like you had too
- 41:13Speaker 1: many people here. If you give me a negative review,
- 41:16Speaker 1: I'll give you a really negative review and like, I please.
- 41:18Speaker 3: Write a review of like being kind about it.
- 41:21Speaker 1: Like he was like otherwise, I'm gonna charge you more
- 41:23Speaker 1: money for the extra people that you had. And I
- 41:25Speaker 1: had tried to offer to pay him more money because
- 41:27Speaker 1: I knew more people were coming.
- 41:28Speaker 3: He wouldn't even take it.
- 41:29Speaker 2: So it's crazy, like if the premise he you know
- 41:32Speaker 2: he does parties here, Yeah, it's like he, I mean,
- 41:35Speaker 2: he of course he knows it's gonna be more people coming,
- 41:38Speaker 2: Like he probably just was like.
- 41:39Speaker 3: I didn't even know he was gonna be there.
- 41:41Speaker 2: He's probably I'm gonna stay here and see if a
- 41:43Speaker 2: lot of people come in and charge.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Well, he kept acting like he didn't live there, just
- 41:46Speaker 1: Nick lived in the house. That was one of those
- 41:48Speaker 1: situations where you get there you think you're gonna get
- 41:51Speaker 1: the place, and like he lives there and is currently
- 41:53Speaker 1: living there. He had been spoken cigarettes all through the house.
- 41:55Speaker 1: I did walk clean. Then when I came back, it
- 41:59Speaker 1: was like he was like cigarettes.
- 42:00Speaker 2: I he is like a bad roommate. He's like a
- 42:02Speaker 2: bad stepdad. It's like this stepdad living there ruin everything.
- 42:05Speaker 2: Tat he's in the photo booth and.
- 42:10Speaker 3: You know people are in swim Stones for the July.
- 42:12Speaker 1: He taking pictures of my hot friends.
- 42:13Speaker 3: I'm like, they're like, who is this man?
- 42:15Speaker 1: Lacy? Yeah?
- 42:16Speaker 4: Also, how come he guys' amenty fourth July plans either.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Creep on creep.
- 42:20Speaker 1: But yeah, he intimidated me, and I just never even
- 42:23Speaker 1: wrote a review because I was so upset about it.
- 42:24Speaker 1: I couldn't visit it. But he wrote kind of like
- 42:26Speaker 1: a weird review about me. So it is a thing
- 42:28Speaker 1: of like your force. Like basically airbnbs have better reviews
- 42:33Speaker 1: than hotels and trip Advisor just because people are so
- 42:37Speaker 1: afraid that if you tank my rating, I'll tank yours,
- 42:41Speaker 1: vice versa, and then I can't rent at another place.
- 42:44Speaker 1: It's like Uber, I give like every Uber five stars,
- 42:46Speaker 1: even like one time I gave an uber three stars
- 42:48Speaker 1: because he smelled really bad.
- 42:50Speaker 3: He smelled so.
- 42:51Speaker 1: Fucking bad that I was like, I can't give you
- 42:53Speaker 1: five stars. And then I put car smelled. That was
- 42:55Speaker 1: a thing you could put. It was a preset button.
- 42:59Speaker 2: Oh, it was like this is the problem.
- 43:01Speaker 1: It was like, why are you even three stars? And
- 43:03Speaker 1: then it was like is it car smelled? I was
- 43:05Speaker 1: like why, yes.
- 43:06Speaker 2: Wow, So you're right though, it's kind of like it
- 43:09Speaker 2: cancels itself out because it's like I don't want to
- 43:12Speaker 2: get a bad No one's gonna pick me up, right,
- 43:14Speaker 2: you give it, but it's like it's a double and
- 43:16Speaker 2: like no one's being honest, so right.
- 43:18Speaker 1: And I had to learn, like I tipped sometimes like
- 43:20Speaker 1: if they do a really good job, or if they
- 43:22Speaker 1: like break a certain amount of traffic laws. Like I
- 43:24Speaker 1: had an Uber driver recently drive through a parking lot
- 43:26Speaker 1: to avoid going through a light, and I was like,
- 43:29Speaker 1: my nigga, like and so I tipped himsel I was
- 43:31Speaker 1: like I would have did the same thing.
- 43:32Speaker 3: I would have droven this parking lot.
- 43:35Speaker 2: I know. I always wonder when an Uber driver does that,
- 43:37Speaker 2: if they're like thinking in their head, like I wonder
- 43:39Speaker 2: if this person's gonna be cool with this because I'm
- 43:41Speaker 2: gonna do some crazy I love it. Yeah, I'll be
- 43:44Speaker 2: like cool, like hell, yeah, let's do it. But then
- 43:46Speaker 2: you know, the wrong person might be Like I know.
- 43:49Speaker 1: But I moved from New York, so I'm used to
- 43:51Speaker 1: the cabs just being illegal. I had a cab driver once,
- 43:54Speaker 1: like we smoked, we with him in the cab.
- 43:58Speaker 2: That's nice, you know what I was thinking. So so
- 44:02Speaker 2: you're at least they let you do the party. Because
- 44:04Speaker 2: when I try to do a party like that, and
- 44:07Speaker 2: then but I would tell them in the email that
- 44:09Speaker 2: I was trying to do a party at the house
- 44:11Speaker 2: and I would never get a I felt like that
- 44:12Speaker 2: they were being racist, like they wouldn't let me.
- 44:14Speaker 1: That's another big thing about Airbnb is like they have
- 44:17Speaker 1: kind of this installation of racism, especially when it comes
- 44:20Speaker 1: to black gusts. Yeah, a lot of times if I'm
- 44:22Speaker 1: going with a group, I'll have like the white person
- 44:25Speaker 1: book the Airbnb, or I'll like change my profile photo
- 44:28Speaker 1: to like a white woman, or like it's gonna get
- 44:30Speaker 1: harder now the more that I start working entertainment. But
- 44:33Speaker 1: I've really been trying to pretend that I was white
- 44:36Speaker 1: a lot.
- 44:36Speaker 4: You just got to put Paul left Tompkins out there.
- 44:40Speaker 1: Then Paul up talks might be getting too close to
- 44:42Speaker 1: black people. They'll be like, I don't know about Paul
- 44:45Speaker 1: might bring some me.
- 44:47Speaker 2: Just like it put his service out there. It's like,
- 44:49Speaker 2: if you need to get an Airbnb, I'll do it
- 44:51Speaker 2: for you. And then he got in trouble for doing
- 44:53Speaker 2: it so much. They're like, no, that motherfucker always break.
- 44:56Speaker 3: Up black people called white face.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Do you know what to do?
- 45:02Speaker 4: You can represent the black community?
- 45:03Speaker 3: And I did.
- 45:05Speaker 2: Yes.
- 45:07Speaker 1: I love you Paul some of all today. But yeah,
- 45:10Speaker 1: so I understand this. We've completely like diverged off of this, but.
- 45:13Speaker 3: Back to it.
- 45:14Speaker 1: So when I asked about the status of my refund,
- 45:16Speaker 1: they ghost. It makes sense like you're asking for money,
- 45:19Speaker 1: they are not going to give it to you, which
- 45:20Speaker 1: led to me contacting Airbnb. Though I had moved to
- 45:23Speaker 1: the flop house and was told to leave early, Airbnb
- 45:27Speaker 1: only refunded me three hundred and ninety nine dollars of
- 45:30Speaker 1: my twelve hundred and twenty one dollars, and only after
- 45:34Speaker 1: I badgered a number of case managers over the course
- 45:37Speaker 1: of several days, unable to shake the sense that there
- 45:39Speaker 1: was more of a run out of a mill host
- 45:41Speaker 1: kind of incident. I started to look into the red
- 45:43Speaker 1: flags that I might have missed. So when she starts
- 45:46Speaker 1: looking into it.
- 45:46Speaker 3: She's like.
- 45:48Speaker 1: Some of the positive reviews on Becky and Andrew Chicago
- 45:51Speaker 1: Rental seemed odd, especially those left by other pairs of
- 45:54Speaker 1: hosts like Kelsey and jan For example, they said Becky
- 45:58Speaker 1: and Andrew, which Becky just is not anybody's real name.
- 46:01Speaker 1: I mean, your name is Rebecca, but like Becky is fake,
- 46:06Speaker 1: Like I said, what do I say? Guys, Every Matthew
- 46:08Speaker 1: is a scam. Every Becky is also a scam. Ad
- 46:10Speaker 1: Becky to the list of scam names. So Becky and
- 46:15Speaker 1: Andrew were awesome and communicative guests, they say. Gene and
- 46:21Speaker 1: Kelsey say that they stayed with Becky and Andrew, but
- 46:27Speaker 1: Gene and Kelsey owned two properties in Chicago as well,
- 46:33Speaker 1: basically meaning that they went on a staycation up the
- 46:37Speaker 1: street to.
- 46:40Speaker 2: Yeah, why it don't make sense if it was Chicago
- 46:45Speaker 2: art in the flophouse. So maybe maybe things are coming together.
- 46:54Speaker 1: We all live in Chicago, but we write reviews on
- 46:57Speaker 1: other Chicago properties. That's my weird Like, I'm not gonna
- 47:01Speaker 1: do a staycation at an Airbnb in Chicago if I
- 47:04Speaker 1: have Airbnb's in Chicago, unless like it's like la, like
- 47:07Speaker 1: if you have a mansion and I'm doing something special,
- 47:10Speaker 1: but these are just regular houses, right, Yeah, So that's
- 47:13Speaker 1: already kind of weird even stranger. Kelsey and Jean's photo
- 47:17Speaker 1: also had been cribbed from a travel site, and the
- 47:22Speaker 1: language that they used to describe their home West Sloop.
- 47:24Speaker 1: Sixth bed Getaway Walk the City seemed familiar to that
- 47:28Speaker 1: of Becky and Andrew, which was six bed Downtown wicker
- 47:32Speaker 1: Park Walk the City.
- 47:36Speaker 3: Yeah, the language is a little close.
- 47:37Speaker 1: It wasn't long before I found what looked like an
- 47:40Speaker 1: awful lot, like the apartment that I originally had booked
- 47:43Speaker 1: with Becky and Andrew, the one on Northwood Street listed
- 47:47Speaker 1: by Kelsey and Jean as well. There was no mistaking it.
- 47:51Speaker 1: The couch, coffee table, dining room set, even the Chicago
- 47:55Speaker 1: gas station wall all the same. Yeah, so she said,
- 48:00Speaker 1: I started to wonder, Wow, Right, so this is like
- 48:03Speaker 1: a network people who are doing this and they're all
- 48:08Speaker 1: running it from one business account.
- 48:11Speaker 4: So we got to take them down.
- 48:14Speaker 3: Right, So.
- 48:16Speaker 1: Right, look Airbnb taking them down. Airbnb has not said anything.
- 48:22Speaker 1: They're about to go public. They were like time for this.
- 48:24Speaker 1: Were trying to sell these shares, Yeah, Airbnb, We're trying
- 48:28Speaker 1: to sell these shares of other people's homes that we
- 48:31Speaker 1: connect people to.
- 48:33Speaker 4: Yeah, like what is their business? They're just what.
- 48:38Speaker 3: Are they They're just a middleman.
- 48:40Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like they're basically like the like we
- 48:43Speaker 2: were described, like, I don't have a house, but I'm
- 48:46Speaker 2: gonna take you to another house, right the.
- 48:49Speaker 3: Guy who broke into that house to give you the key.
- 48:52Speaker 4: Is literally so I guess I didn't get scammed.
- 48:55Speaker 3: No, that's literally what Airbnb does.
- 48:58Speaker 1: And it's crazy because if you use airb you know
- 49:01Speaker 1: that if you try to contact the seller directly, like
- 49:03Speaker 1: Airbnb don't play that shit. Like if you type in
- 49:05Speaker 1: the email, Airbnb will snatch the it'll like bleep out
- 49:09Speaker 1: the email.
- 49:10Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, you.
- 49:11Speaker 1: Can't type in an email because then like they have
- 49:13Speaker 1: a system that'll that can tell if you've typed in
- 49:16Speaker 1: any kind of contact info and then they bleep that
- 49:18Speaker 1: shit out because they're like, no, you have to communicate
- 49:20Speaker 1: on our website. You have, like because they don't want
- 49:22Speaker 1: you cutting out their fees and everything just because you've
- 49:24Speaker 1: connected with the people, which.
- 49:26Speaker 3: I thought was wild And I was like, is it
- 49:28Speaker 3: a way for me to get around this?
- 49:30Speaker 1: And then put my number in between each word like two,
- 49:34Speaker 1: what's up, y'all?
- 49:35Speaker 3: I really like this place? Five if y'all like.
- 49:39Speaker 1: There has to be a way around. Wow, that's what
- 49:45Speaker 1: That's what my brain goes to. But yeah, so Airbnb
- 49:47Speaker 1: is just a fucking middleman. So it seems as if
- 49:52Speaker 1: like one person or group had created numerous phony accounts
- 49:54Speaker 1: to run a much larger Airbnb operation. If that proved true, admit,
- 49:58Speaker 1: whoever ran the five accounts I'd located was controlling at
- 50:01Speaker 1: least ninety four properties in eight different cities.
- 50:04Speaker 2: Wow, ninety yeah, damn, that's like Dady probably really making
- 50:08Speaker 2: some money then, yeah, by making a lot of money.
- 50:10Speaker 1: Probably very busy when he was like when she was like,
- 50:12Speaker 1: can I talk to you on the phone, and he
- 50:13Speaker 1: was like, I'm at my employment. Like He's like, I'm
- 50:15Speaker 1: scamming other people right now. Okay, I don't have time.
- 50:18Speaker 2: I got Yeah, I have eight ninety properties. Yeah, it's
- 50:21Speaker 2: like I'm scamming. I'm too busy to help with the
- 50:24Speaker 2: scam I'm doing currently because I got so many scams.
- 50:26Speaker 3: Because I'm running so many scams.
- 50:28Speaker 2: This is a business, it's an employment.
- 50:29Speaker 1: He was like, look, I have people about to show
- 50:31Speaker 1: up to the place that I told you ain't working
- 50:34Speaker 1: right now, so I got to go let them down.
- 50:37Speaker 4: Do you so is it better to just go to
- 50:39Speaker 4: the hotel? Is that what I should do?
- 50:42Speaker 3: I think?
- 50:43Speaker 1: So you can actually get discounts and upgrade, don't have
- 50:46Speaker 1: to worry about there being a woman there, a cat,
- 50:49Speaker 1: three rats, someone.
- 50:52Speaker 3: Breaks you into the airbnb.
- 50:54Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. There's no pets in.
- 50:56Speaker 1: There, an elusive bottle of soy sauce, a whole punched.
- 51:00Speaker 2: In a wall. It'll be crazy. If I go to
- 51:02Speaker 2: a hotel going out of town next month and if
- 51:04Speaker 2: there's like a bottle so sitting there, I'm gonna probably
- 51:09Speaker 2: freak out.
- 51:09Speaker 3: That's like that's the new get out.
- 51:11Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I know, but yeah, I'm gonna stick to hotels.
- 51:15Speaker 2: I like hotels.
- 51:16Speaker 3: I do too.
- 51:17Speaker 1: I mean, look, everything's gross, but I feel like a
- 51:20Speaker 1: hotel at least you go someone is like competently cleaning
- 51:23Speaker 1: it and everything. Like you can have cleaning services, but
- 51:26Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel its legitimate. At least, say the hotel.
- 51:28Speaker 1: They have rules, they have a structured way that they
- 51:30Speaker 1: clean things.
- 51:30Speaker 2: There's like a routine, yeah, like someone's check it, like
- 51:33Speaker 2: and they really be trying to clean. Because when I
- 51:34Speaker 2: be in hotels, they be like even when I don't
- 51:37Speaker 2: want them to come in, They're constantly trying to come
- 51:39Speaker 2: in and clean. Oh yeah, they you know day at
- 51:41Speaker 2: least trying to wear The Airbnb is like they'll clean
- 51:44Speaker 2: when you're done.
- 51:45Speaker 1: Yeah. No.
- 51:45Speaker 2: The housekeeping is like yeah, they'll wake your ass up,
- 51:49Speaker 2: like next topic.
- 51:50Speaker 3: Hello, No, we're good. I had one just come in
- 51:53Speaker 3: and we was naked. It's like.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Saying nothing, So we thought if we didn't say nothing,
- 51:59Speaker 1: suits gonna go away.
- 52:02Speaker 2: They're like, well, nobody's in here. Oh my godad.
- 52:06Speaker 1: Girl, I'm not going to do your rounds. But ship
- 52:10Speaker 1: oh man.
- 52:11Speaker 3: So this story continues.
- 52:13Speaker 1: There's so many instances of like creepy like people who
- 52:18Speaker 1: she contacted who were like I had the same situation
- 52:20Speaker 1: happened to me, Like I came to the place. It
- 52:22Speaker 1: wasn't how it was advertised. It was creepy and dirty.
- 52:25Speaker 1: And the French who looked like I had been picked
- 52:26Speaker 1: up off the street. The couches were tattered and burned
- 52:28Speaker 1: by cigarettes.
- 52:30Speaker 3: Oh my god, that killed me.
- 52:32Speaker 2: And it's just killing.
- 52:33Speaker 1: Cigarette on the couch and putting it out on the couch.
- 52:36Speaker 1: You are a wild ship.
- 52:41Speaker 2: My mom would kill me. She won't even let me
- 52:43Speaker 2: eat on the couch, like eat around it.
- 52:46Speaker 1: Around it, not in the vicinity, the general area. And
- 52:48Speaker 1: I can't look at the couch while I'm eating, you
- 52:50Speaker 1: know what I mean? For fear, But that's that's I
- 52:54Speaker 1: just want to know the type of motherfucker who's out
- 52:55Speaker 1: here putting cigarette butts out on the couch, because.
- 52:57Speaker 2: That is it's a certain type of person. I feel
- 52:59Speaker 2: like I know that person. You feel like, yeah, but
- 53:03Speaker 2: you know, I cut that person.
- 53:06Speaker 3: Out of my life, cut off no more.
- 53:10Speaker 1: I'm very glad that you cut this person out of
- 53:11Speaker 1: her life, Lamark, because if I found if I saw
- 53:13Speaker 1: you with a man who was smoking and putting them
- 53:16Speaker 1: out on for her to try to be concerned.
- 53:19Speaker 2: One day, I'm going to run into him. I'm going
- 53:21Speaker 2: to be like, how's it going. He's gonna say I
- 53:23Speaker 2: quit smoking, and then we'll be friends again. Maybe.
- 53:27Speaker 1: So this is just a very long article about how
- 53:34Speaker 1: she continues to find people who have been a part
- 53:36Speaker 1: of this scam. Airbnb is kind of at this like
- 53:40Speaker 1: standstill where they're refusing to do anything about it. She
- 53:43Speaker 1: thinks that the scam is actually coming from a place
- 53:46Speaker 1: called Abbot Pacific, and so she had contacted Abbot Pacific
- 53:52Speaker 1: to see like because it basically it was an upscale
- 53:55Speaker 1: corporate rental company, but then some people were taking tours
- 54:00Speaker 1: and all of the rentals were really like run down properties.
- 54:04Speaker 1: That were at the same address that he had listed
- 54:07Speaker 1: that the upscale properties were at. So she starts to
- 54:11Speaker 1: think that she's onto the guy. Right she goes. I
- 54:13Speaker 1: repeatedly tried to reach out to him on his cell
- 54:15Speaker 1: phone to no avail, so I decided to call Abbot Pacific,
- 54:18Speaker 1: the company he ran. According to LinkedIn, the company's website
- 54:21Speaker 1: only listed a Google number, which I called repeatedly and
- 54:23Speaker 1: on a Wednesday in October before leaving a voicemail explaining
- 54:26Speaker 1: that I needed to speak with Joel. The next day,
- 54:29Speaker 1: I emailed Joel on his personal Gmail. She is listen
- 54:33Speaker 1: the petty levels here. This is peak petty. This is
- 54:37Speaker 1: she has taken on a full time job.
- 54:39Speaker 2: Yes, she got her employment. Now must is she's doing it.
- 54:43Speaker 1: It's drinking twelve cups of coffee a day. She's picked
- 54:47Speaker 1: up a smoking habit. She's like got so many papers
- 54:51Speaker 1: and she's driving around like a chevell. Yeah, just for
- 54:58Speaker 1: some reason. She lives in but in the park, right,
- 55:02Speaker 1: she lives in LA But everywhere she goes it's gray,
- 55:04Speaker 1: cold and rainy. I don't know how just in her car,
- 55:07Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like she's an intense.
- 55:09Speaker 2: He's really doing it. I'm really impressed. I could never
- 55:12Speaker 2: do any I could never go through all that.
- 55:13Speaker 1: So she emails him and she says, the man starts
- 55:16Speaker 1: to pepper me with questions about this piece because so
- 55:19Speaker 1: he goes, I googled you very briefly, and it seems
- 55:22Speaker 1: like you write generally negative things. So I'm trying to
- 55:25Speaker 1: figure out how I can help. So now he's like, girl,
- 55:28Speaker 1: I'll see you out here.
- 55:29Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 55:30Speaker 2: Yeah, is there any chance that the company could someone
- 55:36Speaker 2: could be doing this under the company and the company
- 55:38Speaker 2: and I know it.
- 55:40Speaker 1: You think it goes all the way to the top,
- 55:41Speaker 1: But like a good scammer knows how to figure that out.
- 55:43Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's just him. It says
- 55:45Speaker 1: he runs this company, this LLC. I mean, I have
- 55:48Speaker 1: an LLC. It's very easy to get an LLC, so
- 55:50Speaker 1: he very well could just be running this game.
- 55:52Speaker 2: That's true.
- 55:52Speaker 1: Yeah, So recently, the FBI has reached out to our
- 55:59Speaker 1: girl out that's her name, right, Ali. Yeah, So the
- 56:02Speaker 1: FBI has reached out to her about these scams, but
- 56:05Speaker 1: she has yet to hear anything from Airbnb at this point.
- 56:08Speaker 2: Wow.
- 56:09Speaker 1: So after reaching out to Airbnb several times, I'm really
- 56:11Speaker 1: not getting any help, like she still in contact with
- 56:14Speaker 1: this guy. She offered to email him links to the
- 56:16Speaker 1: Airbnb accounts that he was she was referring to that
- 56:19Speaker 1: she thought were fraudulent, but he never gave her an
- 56:21Speaker 1: email address, saying that he had a pad and pen
- 56:23Speaker 1: to take them down, which would presumably be first in
- 56:27Speaker 1: human history. Like, who has ever written down a website?
- 56:31Speaker 1: He's like, no, I got a pad in paper? Okay,
- 56:33Speaker 1: what's website? W W dot?
- 56:35Speaker 3: Oh wait?
- 56:36Speaker 1: The four was slash two forward slashes, air come slash
- 56:43Speaker 1: q R T one one zero J two bungalow apart
- 56:49Speaker 1: Like what, no one's.
- 56:50Speaker 3: Writing this down?
- 56:52Speaker 1: So then she says, oh, and I should tell you
- 56:54Speaker 1: this happened to me. Several seconds of silence passed before
- 56:59Speaker 1: the man responds, this makes more sense now.
- 57:02Speaker 3: After hanging up.
- 57:03Speaker 1: I messaged Chris and Becky's account, the fake one, and
- 57:06Speaker 1: asked for Joel to call me because I was writing
- 57:08Speaker 1: an article. It was around three pm in New York City. Hi, Ali,
- 57:13Speaker 1: think you might be mistaken, they wrote back four hours later.
- 57:16Speaker 1: Are you looking to book the home? I already ran
- 57:22Speaker 1: the scam on her.
- 57:22Speaker 4: I know that's funny.
- 57:23Speaker 2: That's how you know because it's like they during so
- 57:26Speaker 2: such scambo that they're like it's like almost in the loop,
- 57:28Speaker 2: like they just can't not be scamming.
- 57:30Speaker 1: Also, I feel like that it must be Joel, because
- 57:33Speaker 1: nobody responds to a question that they don't know the
- 57:36Speaker 1: answer to, like I think you might be mistaken. I
- 57:39Speaker 1: mean I would just be like who is Joel?
- 57:41Speaker 2: Like yeah, like, yeah, I think you might be mistaken.
- 57:44Speaker 3: Joel's sent over the type of like what's gonna make
- 57:46Speaker 3: it sound like.
- 57:47Speaker 2: This take twenty minutes, I'm say taken for it might
- 57:53Speaker 2: be mistaken? And then then.
- 58:00Speaker 3: And then I'm gonna say, are you looking to book
- 58:02Speaker 3: the home?
- 58:03Speaker 2: We legitimately are call it home, like anybody legit will
- 58:07Speaker 2: call it at home.
- 58:09Speaker 3: Okay, I'm.
- 58:13Speaker 1: So the man who called himself Patrick never got back
- 58:18Speaker 1: to her. So so Joel was going by so many
- 58:20Speaker 1: different names, right, never got back to me with more
- 58:23Speaker 1: information about the disconnect or put me in touch with
- 58:26Speaker 1: Joel as he said he would, I again email. Basically
- 58:29Speaker 1: this goes on and eventually she goes onto the website,
- 58:33Speaker 1: the Pacific LLC, and it's gone.
- 58:37Speaker 2: Wow, thought so that she's probably scared him, and then
- 58:39Speaker 2: they took it down right right.
- 58:40Speaker 1: They were like, we gotta start to delete our papers.
- 58:43Speaker 1: We are too easily.
- 58:43Speaker 2: First website, get rid of the website. That's the first.
- 58:48Speaker 1: Why do we even have a website for our scalm company?
- 58:51Speaker 1: That was stupid. You told me we needed outreach, said
- 58:54Speaker 1: social media was the future.
- 58:55Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was real, if this was a real company,
- 59:02Speaker 2: then we would need a website.
- 59:03Speaker 1: This is crazy. So I mean, this is still a
- 59:05Speaker 1: developing story. So if there's an update, we'll give you one.
- 59:07Speaker 1: But the FBI is looking into this now. I'm so
- 59:09Speaker 1: fascinated to see.
- 59:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait to see what happens.
- 59:12Speaker 3: But shout out to Ali for being just petty though.
- 59:16Speaker 2: Elly was keeping it real thorough for the truth. Attention
- 59:18Speaker 2: to detail, that's my biggest weakness. Like when I was
- 59:21Speaker 2: I was getting my job and I did a review
- 59:24Speaker 2: on me, they were like, you're good at a lot
- 59:26Speaker 2: of things, but you don't have good attention to detail.
- 59:30Speaker 1: Everything happening, coffee all over this.
- 59:33Speaker 4: I don't detail Alli did.
- 59:36Speaker 1: But all right, guys, that reasons at the end of
- 59:38Speaker 1: this episode where I always ask people where do you
- 59:42Speaker 1: want to be found? Not where can people find you?
- 59:44Speaker 1: Because I don't want people pulling up on you unless
- 59:46Speaker 1: you can send Oh, I.
- 59:47Speaker 2: Just want to be found. You can find me on
- 59:52Speaker 2: on the movie and show I just watched my movie.
- 59:54Speaker 4: It's a party on Showtime. Yeah, and you'll see you'll
- 59:56Speaker 4: see me.
- 59:58Speaker 3: It's a party. Lamar's hilarious, guys.
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