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ROOT REACTION w/ Wayne Allyn Root 04-08-25 Hour 1 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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  Speaker 1: Warning, The Root, The Root, The Roots on fire. You're
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  Speaker 1: This is Wayne Alan Root, America's favorite conservative rock star,
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  Speaker 1: direct from the entertainment capital of the world, Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: What time is it?
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  Speaker 2: It's time war war.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, one hundred percent raw truth, one hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent American made the Warrior, Wayne Alan Roots.
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  Speaker 3: All right, they tell me I'm live Roots the Root Reactions.
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  Speaker 2: Roots Roots is here and it's a great day. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of good things happening, except for the stock market.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, there's a lot of enemies of America who trying
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  Speaker 3: to bomb the stock market. Obviously Wall Street, the Deep State, China,
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  Speaker 3: the George Soros is the world again. It's an opinion show,
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  Speaker 3: just my opinion. Those are the enemies of the United
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  Speaker 3: States of America. Barack Obomb has taken orders from those
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  Speaker 3: enemies and they're trying to destroy the stock market to
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  Speaker 3: try and destroy Trump right now before his term barely
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  Speaker 3: has begun. This is their moment to try and destroy him.
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  Speaker 3: But guess what the voters are for the tariffs again
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  Speaker 3: and again and again.
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  Speaker 2: Here's is this the ras use one Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Latest rass must reports national telephone and online survey finds
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  Speaker 3: that forty five percent of likely US voters say the
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  Speaker 3: government doesn't do enough to protect US manufacturers.
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  Speaker 2: And businesses from foreign competition.
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  Speaker 3: Just seventeen percent think the government protects American business too much.
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  Speaker 3: So people are on the side of the tariffs. And then,
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  Speaker 3: if I can find it real quick, here it is.
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  Speaker 3: CNN's data expert Harry Inton shares the latest poll on
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  Speaker 3: President Trump. He's not a lame duck, he says, he's
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  Speaker 3: a soaring eagle. CNN Senior data reporter Harry Inton delivered
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  Speaker 3: unwelcome news to Democrats who rage against President Trump and
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  Speaker 3: call him a king. According to a recent poll, a
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  Speaker 3: majority of American voters disagree. Harry Enton, I think there's
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  Speaker 3: concern among some folks that Donald Trump would come in
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  Speaker 3: for a second term.
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  Speaker 2: And be a lame duck. That sure wasn't me.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, I told you, I know him, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like the like the back of my hand. Here, nobody
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  Speaker 3: knows Trump better than me. Trump rules in my book,
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  Speaker 3: and I understand everything about this guy, and I identified
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  Speaker 3: all the rules and make them the greatest guy that's
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  Speaker 3: ever walked the face of the earth.
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  Speaker 2: Human. You know, he's not Jesus Christ, but he's a human,
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  Speaker 2: and no U human.
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  Speaker 3: Has ever been as flawless in everything, real estate, branding, business, celebrity,
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  Speaker 3: you name it. How about politics, I mean, how about television,
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  Speaker 3: Apprentice and celebrity Apprentice.
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  Speaker 2: He's been incredible at everything, And so I knew that.
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  Speaker 3: He would not be a lame duck. He'd come in
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  Speaker 3: and be the most active president in history. But Harry
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  Speaker 3: Enten says, what am I talking about here? Let's talk
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  Speaker 3: about Trump's executive orders. He has already signed one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and eleven. That's the most at this point in a
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  Speaker 3: presidency in at least one hundred years. In fact, it's
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  Speaker 3: the most in any in a presidency in the whole
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  Speaker 3: four years. It's the most in a single year ever.
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  Speaker 3: We're only in April. In April, the bottom line is,
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  Speaker 3: whether you like Trump you don't like him, you can't
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  Speaker 3: say he's coming and not try to deliver on what
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  Speaker 3: he at least believes was his promises on the campaign
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  Speaker 3: trail and doing so in historic fashion. So then the
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  Speaker 3: gall On TVs at CNN, how are people acting and
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  Speaker 3: how do they feel about Trump's approach? So Trump's approach here,
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  Speaker 3: Harryeten says, Trump's approach to presidential power. I think the
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  Speaker 3: American people recognize what he's doing here is completely different.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking get this, eighty six percent of the.
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  Speaker 3: American public believes that Trump's approach to presidential power is
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  Speaker 3: completely different from past presidents, compared to only fourteen percent
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  Speaker 3: who believe it's in line. So again, you can agree
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  Speaker 3: or you can disagree with Donald Trump. What you can't
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  Speaker 3: agree with, what you can't disagree with is that he's
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  Speaker 3: doing things very uniquely differently. I've used the Frank Sinatra
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  Speaker 3: quote before, He's doing it my way, and that is
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  Speaker 3: what Donald Trump has done throughout both his presidential terms.
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  Speaker 3: And then the gall On TV for CNN, Karen Boldwin says,
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  Speaker 3: do people think he is doing too much? Has he
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  Speaker 3: taken too much power? Harry Entten says, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 3: this is the real question. Forty seven percent say too much,
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  Speaker 3: but then you get thirty six percent who say the
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  Speaker 3: right amount and seventeen percent who say too little. So
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  Speaker 3: you're essentially dealing with a majority of the American people
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  Speaker 3: fifty three percent, who say that he's either doing the
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  Speaker 3: right amount or not even enough.
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  Speaker 2: He should do more so. The argument that Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 3: Is a king, I don't think holds with the American people.
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  Speaker 3: The executive orders he signed certainly suggests he's no lame duck.
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  Speaker 3: Harrie Enton says he is a soaring eagle. Trump's going
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  Speaker 3: for history and redefining the presidency.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, record number of executive orders.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, eighty six percent say his approach completely different
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  Speaker 3: from others.
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  Speaker 2: And number three, this isn't seen as a power grab.
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  Speaker 2: A majority fifty three percent says.
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  Speaker 3: Power is just right or even too little, that he
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  Speaker 3: should do more so, so far.
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  Speaker 2: So good. They got it all wrong.
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  Speaker 3: And I mentioned yesterday the Daily Mail, who has really
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  Speaker 3: good pollsters. I mean, I've really used the Daily Mail
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  Speaker 3: a lot during the Trump Kamala campaign, and they were
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  Speaker 3: right on everything. And the Daily Mail said that Trump
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  Speaker 3: has gained so much support since the tariffs that it's
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  Speaker 3: shocking seventeen percent points up among black people and dramatically
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  Speaker 3: up above everyone.
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  Speaker 2: More good news.
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  Speaker 3: Supreme Court grants Trump's ability at least temporarily to fire
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  Speaker 3: thousands of federal employees. So that's good, that's good news.
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  Speaker 3: You know, as of yesterday, the Supreme Court sided with
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  Speaker 3: Trump over Venezuelan deportations.
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  Speaker 2: But again that wasn't quite as good as we thought
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  Speaker 2: it was.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they sided with him, he has a right to
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  Speaker 3: send them to El Salvador. But the Supreme Court required
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  Speaker 3: due process for each and every case. You have to
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  Speaker 3: prove each case individually should be sent to El Salvador.
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  Speaker 2: So it was a good ruling, it was not a great.
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  Speaker 3: Ruling as usual from the Supreme Court, and the other
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  Speaker 3: thing that came out of it, which was shocking. And
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  Speaker 3: I think I said this on the show yesterday. I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember her name now, the Supreme Court lady. I
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  Speaker 3: can't even remember her name. I've gone totally blank. Whatever
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  Speaker 3: her name is.
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  Speaker 2: She's the one appointed by Trump.
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  Speaker 3: She's Catholic, and she's been a disaster, and she voted
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  Speaker 3: against Trump in that ruling. She voted for the Al
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  Speaker 3: Salvadoran you know, gangbangers from Trend de Arragua.
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  Speaker 2: She voted they have a right to stay in the
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  Speaker 2: United States.
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  Speaker 3: Shocking, Amy Barrett, Right, Amy Coney Barrett, There we go.
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  Speaker 2: It came to me it took a second. The files
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  Speaker 2: that opened up in my brain.
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  Speaker 3: Amy Coney Barrett is a disaster and an embarrassment. She
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  Speaker 3: is just either a fraud, or she's blackmailed, or she's
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  Speaker 3: playing for the other team.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows what it is.
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  Speaker 3: She's a fraud in that she was always a liberal
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  Speaker 3: and she played conservative to get nominated to the Supreme
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  Speaker 3: Court and then the real person came out.
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  Speaker 2: Or she's being bribed or blackmail.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know, it's amazing to me
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  Speaker 3: because I've always said that about Justice Roberts, and he
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  Speaker 3: ruled in favor of Trump on that one.
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  Speaker 2: She ruled against him.
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  Speaker 3: Amy Coney Barrett glad the name finally came to me.
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  Speaker 3: I've got one hundred thousand names in my brain. It's
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  Speaker 3: hard to get them all out quickly. On TV, President
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  Speaker 3: Trump to sign unleashing American energy executive orders during a
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  Speaker 3: ceremony with energy executives. And one of the things he's
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  Speaker 3: unleashing is to revitalize the coal industry. Look, if you
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  Speaker 3: want us to be the richest nation in the world,
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  Speaker 3: if you want good paying, middle class jobs, if you
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  Speaker 3: want middle class people with a high quality of life,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta get the electric bills down, and the natural
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  Speaker 3: gas build down, and the fuel you put in your
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  Speaker 3: car that build down.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta use coal.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta use every facet of dirty fossil flee you
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  Speaker 3: really have to. So Trump is unleashing American energy with
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  Speaker 3: new executive orders, and he's hosting mining company executives in
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  Speaker 3: the East room of the White Houses he signs the order.
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  Speaker 2: Executives from Peabody Energy Company.
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  Speaker 3: Core Natural Resources, and Ramaco Resources are in attendance.
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  Speaker 2: The executive order will unleash the might of our.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful clean coal industry in this country, which is a
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  Speaker 3: reliable energy source for AI. You know, for all you
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  Speaker 3: people that think, oh, climate change, climate change.
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  Speaker 2: I've argued this for twenty five years.
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  Speaker 3: Since the year twenty twenty five years, I've been arguing
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  Speaker 3: this that if the United States tomorrow ended all dirty
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  Speaker 3: fossil fuel and went just with green energy, we would
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  Speaker 3: be destroyed and China would be the most dominant nation
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  Speaker 3: in the world. But China would keep belching pollution in
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  Speaker 3: the air because they build not clean coal, but coal
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  Speaker 3: plants dirty call all over their country, and they use
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  Speaker 3: every form of dirty fossil fuel, and they would keep
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  Speaker 3: pumping it in the air, and the world would be
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  Speaker 3: exactly the same, and we'd all sacrifice our lives, our careers,
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  Speaker 3: our children's futures, and we'd all be broke losers like
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  Speaker 3: we'd be living in Cuba, and we'd have constant energy
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  Speaker 3: blackouts and our lives would be misery, and your electric
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  Speaker 3: bills would be three thousand a month for a small apartment,
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  Speaker 3: And we wouldn't do a thing about climate change. We
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't do a thing about polluting the air because.
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  Speaker 2: China and India and.
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  Speaker 3: All the other bricks countries polluted every day and nobody
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  Speaker 3: stops them.
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  Speaker 2: But why would we be the only one that does it.
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  Speaker 3: Here's more good news again, everything's good except the stock market.
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  Speaker 2: Stock market was up.
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  Speaker 3: A thousand points when I woke up this morning, and
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  Speaker 3: it ended up down three hundred and twenty points. So
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  Speaker 3: I mean, another day that whipsaws your neck like a
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  Speaker 3: China owned China. You know, they make money off China.
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  Speaker 3: They're not owned by China, so call them China dependent.
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  Speaker 3: They just want to stop Trump from cracking down on
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  Speaker 3: China because they're beholden to China.
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  Speaker 2: But here's another good news.
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  Speaker 3: Trump cracks down illegal aliens will be fined nearly one
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  Speaker 3: All right, So, my good buddy here, Petar Lascu, who
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  Speaker 3: has been my director for thirty five years and sits
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  Speaker 3: by my side directing and producing this show every single day,
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  Speaker 3: brought me some mail today because he happen to stop
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  Speaker 3: he brings me my mail and there's a letter from
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  Speaker 2: I didn't tell you, what was it, Pete. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to surprise you.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a letter from a prison, certified mail from
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  Speaker 3: an Oklahoma prison, and the first thing I think is,
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  Speaker 2: They all claim they're innocent. What do you want me
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  Speaker 2: to do about it?
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  Speaker 3: Come on, seriously, I'm not a lawyer and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: a public official.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in office. There's nothing I can do about it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't change your prison sentence.
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  Speaker 3: So I open it up and it was actually the
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  Speaker 3: most surprising letter I've ever gotten from a prison.
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  Speaker 2: I get a lot of them, Evidell.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of prisoners who watch my show, probably
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  Speaker 3: because they have a lot of time. I'm on their hands,
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  Speaker 3: they have nothing to do, and so they're searching the
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  Speaker 3: internet and they stumble on my show and they like it.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a bunch of conservatives in prison like my show.
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  Speaker 2: What can I tell you? Anyway?
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  Speaker 3: This letter from Oklahoma and Oklahoma prison was signed by
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  Speaker 3: four doctors, all mds in prison who were sent to
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  Speaker 3: prison because they claim that they were trying to help
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  Speaker 3: people get better prescribing drugs, and the government charged them
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  Speaker 3: with over prescribing, and the government comes in with an
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  Speaker 3: expert that lies, they say, and.
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  Speaker 2: The government's expert is paid by the government.
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  Speaker 3: They make their living to lie for the government and
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  Speaker 3: convince the jury or the judge that they gave too
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  Speaker 3: many drugs out and shouldn't have been giving them out.
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  Speaker 2: And they said, it's a totally open.
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  Speaker 3: Ended question how much a doctor's supposed to give out
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  Speaker 3: or not give out. We're not pillbushers, we're not drug dealers.
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  Speaker 3: We were sent to prison and given thirty to forty
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  Speaker 3: years sent is and we're grown men who went to
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  Speaker 3: medical school and we were trying to help people in
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  Speaker 3: our lives have been ruined, destroyed, will be old men
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  Speaker 3: by the time we get out. They're treating us like
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  Speaker 3: we're heroin dealers or fentanyl dealers.
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  Speaker 2: From the Mexican drug cartel. And it's signed by four mds.
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  Speaker 3: Now, if this had been ten years ago and I
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  Speaker 3: had gotten this, I would think it's a bunch of poppycock,
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  Speaker 3: and I would think they're, you know, just another prisoner
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  Speaker 3: who claims they're innocent. Everyone on what says they're innocent.
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  Speaker 3: But this is me now today, after seeing how the
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  Speaker 3: government lied about the January six ers, and how the
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  Speaker 3: government lies about everything and everyone, and how as far
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  Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, it's the biggest lie in America.
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  Speaker 2: Is you're innocent still proven guilty. No, you're guilty until
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  Speaker 2: proven innocent.
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  Speaker 3: And if you can't afford a good lawyer, you're dead
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  Speaker 2: I never thought i'd say this.
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  Speaker 3: The whole thing is a joke, just like I used
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  Speaker 3: that wasn't you know, a tinpot dictator and everything's about
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  Speaker 3: payoffs and bribery. Now I think America is as bribed
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  Speaker 3: and dirty and corrupt as any nation in the world.
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  Speaker 3: So I tend to believe these four doctors that they
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  Speaker 3: were railroaded by the government. I don't know that I
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  Speaker 3: can do anything about it. But if you're watching or
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  Speaker 3: listening the letter, get home with me. I feel bad
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  Speaker 3: for you. I feel like you got railroaded. I can't
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  Speaker 3: believe four doctors in one prison in Oklahoma are all
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  Speaker 3: combining to send this letter to me to ask for help.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know how I can help, just like
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how I can help with all the
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  Speaker 3: people who send me letters from prison, but I've never
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  Speaker 3: gotten a letter from prison from a doctor an MD,
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  Speaker 3: let alone four mds. Pretty wild, pretty tragic, pretty confusing.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: What's happening in our country now? Pretty disappointing. What's happening
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  Speaker 3: in our country right now? Disillusioning?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: How about that word?
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: It's disillusioning that you know someone comes in point to
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  Speaker 3: finger at you for whatever reason, and then the government
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  Speaker 3: hires an expert to say that you're a criminal and
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  Speaker 3: you're a liar and you're a bad person, even though
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  Speaker 3: you have a medical degree that you spent like two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand dollars on, and you got a
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: wife and kids, and that expert testifies against you. It
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: convinces the jury that they get you gave the wrong
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  Speaker 3: amount of drugs, when in reality.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you gave just the right amount, because there's no
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  Speaker 2: set amount.
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  Speaker 3: It's totally up to the doctor and the patient and
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  Speaker 3: the situation. So I believe them when they say that
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  Speaker 3: they were railroaded. I believe them, boy or We need
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of trouble, a lot of problems in this country.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know if Trump can fix them in
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  Speaker 3: four years and I don't know if eight years after that.
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  Speaker 2: If we elect another Republican, we can fix them. And
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  Speaker 3: out of a great day. Gold had a slightly update,
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  Speaker 2: Gold was up. So good day for gold from that standpoint.
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  Speaker 3: And before I get to my guest, I want to
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  Speaker 3: My guest is here, Todd Sheets, author of the newsletter
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  Speaker 3: His website is Todd Sheets Writer dot com. Toddsheets Writer
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  Speaker 3: dot com. Todd Welcome to the Waynel Root Show.
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  Speaker 2: How are you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing great, Wayne, thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it a sumbsh here. I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 2: a stamp.
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  Speaker 3: So, did somebody else have the domain name toddsheets dot
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  Speaker 3: com because you have Todd sheets writer dot com. Was
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: that name a he taken Todd sheets dot com?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I hesitate to say it's actually there's a guy
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: that does horror films that has taken that don't and
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  Speaker 6: far from what I'm doing as you could possibly imagine.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I had to go with something a little different.
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  Speaker 2: There, there you go. I knew it as soon as
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  Speaker 2: I saw it. I said, well, boy, there must be
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  Speaker 2: another Todd Sheets, all right. And it's certainly an unusual,
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  Speaker 2: unique name.
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  Speaker 3: So it's kind of funny there's another guy with the
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  Speaker 3: same name who wants to put it in a website.
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  Speaker 2: Very rare. Trump's tariffs are.
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  Speaker 3: Designed to reorder the global trading system.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna work. I really do.
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  Speaker 3: It's just, of course, it's gonna be a lot of
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  Speaker 3: pain in the transition period. But America has a chance
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  Speaker 3: now to really hum and to really boom, and the
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: middle class can really get back in the ballgame if
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: this game is played right by President Trump over the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: next year. But there will be some pain, as there
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: has been on Wall Street. What are your thoughts? Are
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: you on my team on this one? Are you gonna
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  Speaker 3: debate me on this one?
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm not going to debate you on this.
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  Speaker 6: You know, the piece I put out on Substack today
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  Speaker 6: that you were referring to basically tries.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: To address a couple of things.
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  Speaker 6: One is, there's been a great deal of fear mongering
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: over these tariffs. People have made allusions to the Smooth
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: Holly tariffs of the nineteen thirties, to Richard Nixon in
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: the early seventies when we went off the gold standard
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: and we then went into a huge period of inflation.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: But the fact of the matter is, I.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Think those are very inappropriate analogies to what's happening right now.
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  Speaker 6: The problems in the nineteen thirties had almost nothing to
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  Speaker 6: do with Smooth Hally. We now know that for a
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: long time we were thought that that was a big factor,
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: that you know, this trade war that took place, was
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: a big problem in causing the depression, and that type
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: of thing. What we now know is that the depression,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: in fact was an outgrowth of two major things. One
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: was World War One and the enormous budget deficits that
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: were incurred by the European belligerent company countries that pushed
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: them into unsustainable debts and massive inflations that pretty much
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: shredded their economies during the nineteen twenties. So they went
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: through a decade of failed policy responses to those problems,
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: and then the international monetary and financial systems collapsed in
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: the early nineteen thirties. So that's a key lesson for
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: us to learn from that period of time, you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: not an inappropriate reference to what happened with tariffs. The
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: second key problem was that the Federal Reserve, when things
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: started to collapse and we started to have banking panics
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: in the United States, the Fed failed to do the
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: job it was created for, which was to provide the
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: liquidity to the system. Well, they've since acknowledged that mistake,
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: and they've learned from it. So I don't think we're
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: headed back into anything like that, and I don't think
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: people should be afraid, you know, that we're headed into
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: some kind of catastrophic situation, or that the stock market
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: declines are going to take us there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, War Todd, let me throw a couple more in,
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  Speaker 3: because I've studied the Great Depression, and the minute we
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: got in a Great depression, a minute it started to
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: be a recession.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Not yet a Great depression, but a recession.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Hoover raised taxes dramatically, and then when FDR became president,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: he raised taxes dramatically and added regulations dramatically. And we
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: all know, you know, you and I in the business world,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: taxes and regulations destroy business and the economy and jobs.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: So I would throw in high taxes and high regulations
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: helped to cause the Great Depression and compound did and
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: make it worse.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: They absolutely did. And in fact, I've gone back and
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: done the research on this. I'm actually working on a
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: book on this subject right now. But if you go
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: back and look at the downturns that preceded the Great Depression,
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: you know, in the late eighteen hundreds and in the
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: early nineteen hundreds, know, the characteristic of all of those
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: was that there was often a somewhat severe downturn, but
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: there was an enormously rapid recovery that occurred afterward. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: that partly because the federal played a very a small
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: role and there was very little regulation, and so the
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: system could adjust to the problem get back on its
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: feet almost always within twelve to eighteen months, you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: we were back at the place that we had been
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: before the downturn started, and back on a rate of
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: health that we haven't matched since that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Period of time.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: Well, and I think that's a lot you're trying to do,
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: is move us back towards that type of a model
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Right And the other thing I remember, you know, when
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I study the Great Suppression, something I remember sticks out
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: in my mind is that things got much much better
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: early in FDR's term, and then they got much much
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: worse because he was met we actually were out of
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: the Great Depression, and then he raised regulations and he
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: raised taxes, and he did all kinds of things unionized
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: and the next thing you know, our country is getting
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: deeper and deeper.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Unemployment goes to levels.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: That were worse than under Herbert Hoover because he caused
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: it to get worse. FDR. He's known as this great president.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: He wasn't a great president. He was a socialist, and
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: his socialist policies tug the whole deeper and deeper and
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: got us from the point where we were.
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  Speaker 2: About to get out and recover to.
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  Speaker 3: Where it went to the absolute depths of the Great Suppression.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Do I have that one right?
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: I mean essentially yes.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: I mean I think it's an underrecognized fact that he
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: essentially inherited a recovering economy. Industrial growth started to kick
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: up in the summer before he took office. It was
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: too late to save Hoover, but I think in a
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: little too early to be recognized what it was. But
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: that was the beginning of a recovery the bank failures
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: bottomed out in the first quarter that of the year
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: that FDR took office, and so there was an emerging
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: recovery that was inherited, but then it was thwarted by
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: these over regulations and that type of thing, and that
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: put us into what was later called the Roosevelt Recession
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: and the downturn, and so on and so forth.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: But you know, part of what happened was that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Recovery coincided so perfectly with his taking office that two
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: things occurred. One was, he got a great deal of
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: credit for it, and everybody thought that these new programs,
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: the New Deal, was associated with that recovery. But the reality,
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: the second reality was it that those things happened even
• 31:50
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  Speaker 3: Into that right well, by the way it happened in
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: modern times, George H. W. Bush was was, you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: for this economy being bad, but all of a sudden
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: he came out of it right at the end, but
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: it was too late. He didn't get any credit for it,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: and Bill Clinton beat him in the election, and then
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: when the economy turned really good, they all credited Bill Clinton.
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  Speaker 3: But the reality is we were coming out of the recession.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how it always happens, you know, people and numbers.
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  Speaker 3: Data is always behind by a few months. So it
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: looked like Bush caused a recession. Bush actually got us
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  Speaker 3: out of a recession. It got blamed for the recession
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  Speaker 3: right when we were coming out of it, and then
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  Speaker 2: It's just sad. You know what, We're headed to a break.
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  Speaker 3: But not on Wall Street because they all make money
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  Speaker 2: In two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, so that actually will lead us right into
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  Speaker 6: where we left. Two big things really happened to lead
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  Speaker 6: so big that for the first time in the history
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  Speaker 5: And as a result, today what do we have.
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