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S5 E31 - All Duckies Go To Heaven_ -The Devastating Tale of Judith Barsi · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: M hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, I was giving a thumbs up to the
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to your first trogram in my time and
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  Speaker 1: now I'm going to tell you all right off the bed.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight's case is going to be an extremely sad one.
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  Speaker 1: I already was crying when I was writing my closing
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  Speaker 1: thoughts behind stage. I honestly, I don't know how I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to get through this one without crying and probably
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  Speaker 1: not so grab some clean exes. It's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be a long show, but it's going to be an
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  Speaker 1: impactful one, that's for sure. There are two movies that
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  Speaker 1: have lived in many of our millennial minds for decades,
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  Speaker 1: The Land Before Time and All Dogs Go to Heaven.
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  Speaker 1: If those two movies weren't emotionally devastating enough to our
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  Speaker 1: child hearts, it would be well into our adulthood before
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  Speaker 1: we learn the true devastating tale of Judith Arci, our
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  Speaker 1: favorite Ducky and Anne Marie. I'm already you go, you go,
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't even make it. We're not even like
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  Speaker 1: two minutes in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't have tissues, all of got my blanket. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you what I'm drinking. I am drinking
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  Speaker 2: sparkling water because I decided I need to give my
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  Speaker 2: liver a vacation after all of the wine in Champagne
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  Speaker 2: I consumed on my travels.
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  Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. Well, I'm not drinking tonight either,
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  Speaker 1: So it's a rare true crime and scuber time episode.
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  Speaker 1: I got me a coke for tonight, and I got
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  Speaker 1: Core early in the morning to cover.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not one of the cokes that got recalled,
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  Speaker 2: is it. No, they've even all Coca Colas in Texas
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  Speaker 2: for having metal shavings or something in the cans.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, no, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if you feel anything, scratch your neck when
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  Speaker 2: it goes down, Oh you'll know there's something in it. Okay, Okay, Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to avoid going any further tonight in miss Well.
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  Speaker 1: Now, before we do get into this show, though, we
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  Speaker 1: do have a quick update for all you listeners. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of something news this week. A few months ago,
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  Speaker 1: we did a three part deep dive into the case
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  Speaker 1: of Aton Pates, who went missing over thirty five years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and we covered the two trials of Pedro Hernandez, who
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  Speaker 1: allegedly was his killer. We both had our very strong
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  Speaker 1: opinions in that three part series that Pedro was factually
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  Speaker 1: innocent and that he was a political pawn, if.
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  Speaker 2: You will, he was. Now in July of this year,
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  Speaker 2: he was granted a new trial. Now, earlier this week,
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  Speaker 2: it was announced that the state of New York had
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  Speaker 2: until June first, twenty twenty six to try him again,
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  Speaker 2: meaning guys like jury selection has to start that day
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  Speaker 2: or Pedro would immediately be released from prison. Now, we
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  Speaker 2: will be keeping an eye on any and all updates
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  Speaker 2: that come out regarding this case. Now, if you're unfamiliar
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  Speaker 2: with it, please go and watch our previous episodes of
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  Speaker 2: the Milk Carton that Changed America, the Aton Pete story,
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  Speaker 2: because we're gonna need it. And I'm sure if it
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  Speaker 2: does go to just New York livestream trial.
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  Speaker 1: No they don't, no, But I'll figure out a way.
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  Speaker 1: We'll figure out a way to cover it because.
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  Speaker 2: I know somebody that I can be in their guest
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  Speaker 2: room for free.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go, because all I need to be
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  Speaker 1: on this trial they do.
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  Speaker 2: In my opinion, he was railroaded.
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  Speaker 1: It is, yeah, agreed, So Pedro free. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't him anyway though, But we wanted to share
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  Speaker 1: that update with you because it's not very often that
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  Speaker 1: the cases we cover on True Crime and My Time
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  Speaker 1: of updates, so we definitely wanted to share that. But
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  Speaker 1: you know what, with that, let's get into the story
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  Speaker 1: of sweet little Judith Barci.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go, Darry, get your blanket ready. So Maria
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  Speaker 2: v Rovok and Joseph Barci, both of them, had fled
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  Speaker 2: Hungary separately after the nineteen sixty five Soviet invasion. Now,
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  Speaker 2: on paper, guys, that sounds like the setup for sweeping
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  Speaker 2: immigrant love story. I mean right, two people from the
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  Speaker 2: same country, both chasing freedom, finding each other across the world.
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  Speaker 2: But spoiler alert, this is true crime and Mine Time.
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  Speaker 2: It is not a rom com. No, we would not
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  Speaker 2: be covering it if it was a sweet love story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, Maria grew up in a quiet university town
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  Speaker 1: in the South. Joseph a totally different story. He came
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  Speaker 1: from a rough industrial city and called his childhood miserable.
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  Speaker 1: He used to tell people that he didn't even have parents,
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  Speaker 1: which in Hungary was basically like the biggest stigma you
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  Speaker 1: could carry. Family was everything there. And later when he
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  Speaker 1: and Maria thought she'd use this as Ammo calling him
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  Speaker 1: a bastard. Friends say it cut him deep, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can already feel the cracks starting to show here
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  Speaker 1: in this relationship.
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  Speaker 2: That's exact. I'm going to just go on record and
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  Speaker 2: say that is not the sign of a healthy relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we all get mad and we say things
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  Speaker 2: that we shouldn't, but that's definitely show on some cracks.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't wrong, She wasn't wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Now they ended up meeting in Los Angeles at this
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  Speaker 2: restaurant that was the spot for Hungarian immigrants. Now, Maria
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  Speaker 2: was working as a waitress in Joseph Dark brooting the
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  Speaker 2: kind of guy who sits at the bar with his
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  Speaker 2: head down. He was there that he was paying for
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  Speaker 2: his drinks with one hundred dollars bills. I mean, guys,
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  Speaker 2: and listen, Maria was impressed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I would be impressed. Now, she thought this guy nicknamed
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  Speaker 2: Arizona Joe because he'd lived there for a while, might
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  Speaker 2: actually give her some security. So on paper, not the
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  Speaker 2: worst start.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he had money, yeah, I mean, could have
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  Speaker 1: had a better nickname. But ever, but also laying down
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  Speaker 1: hundreds during the seventies, and eighties. Is that's that's a
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  Speaker 1: big deal, all right. That's not the same as like
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  Speaker 1: Lee It thrown down of Benjamin right now, now, big deal.
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  Speaker 1: So and Joe worked as a plumber, and he kept
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  Speaker 1: right at it even years later when his daughter's Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: money was rolling in. At first the marriage, actually I
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  Speaker 1: looked happy, and friends said Joe could be downright charming.
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  Speaker 1: But as you've already guessed, charm was only half the story.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle had a temper. Oh wait, that's my ex husband. Nevermind.
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  Speaker 2: Joe had a temper. And when I say temper, I
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  Speaker 2: mean it was hair trigger. And if he mixed an alcohol,
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  Speaker 2: forget it. Okay, if even thought someone was laughing at
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  Speaker 2: his accent, he would snap One of his plumber buddies.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Kivlin remembered him grabbing a two by four, then
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  Speaker 2: quickly added not that he did go after anyone who
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  Speaker 2: didn't deserve it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, well, Kevilyn, I hate to tell you that he
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  Speaker 1: most certainly went after his wife and daughter who didn't
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  Speaker 1: deserve it, but we'll get to that later. This guy
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  Speaker 1: today has just been a day for me and just shit.
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  Speaker 1: Bad guys. I'm sorry, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that prevised of me to call up my ex.
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  Speaker 2: But anytime I see that hair trigger now just triggers me.
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  Speaker 1: Now. Joe also liked to spend tall tales and loved
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  Speaker 1: playing the tough guy. He'd bragged that he lost vision
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  Speaker 1: in one eye during a fight, or that he killed
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  Speaker 1: a man in a New York brawl. Very tough guy
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  Speaker 1: energy he had. But if you actually checked, Nope, no
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  Speaker 1: record of that. Now. What is on record though, is
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  Speaker 1: three or rest for drunk driving. So not actually like
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  Speaker 1: exactly like outlaw material. But okay, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to just say I think I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a fan of Joseph. Okay, now, So yeah, Marie and
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  Speaker 2: Joe came to America with this big immigrant dream, but
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  Speaker 2: their reality was different. It was very toxic, constant fighting, drinking, insults,
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  Speaker 2: just a cycle that kept spiraling. And the saddest part,
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  Speaker 2: all of that poison didn't just stay between the two
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  Speaker 2: of them. It ended up falling hardest on the one
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  Speaker 2: person who deserved none of it, and that is their
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  Speaker 2: sweet little.
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  Speaker 1: Daughter, Judith.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I know that look on her face right there,
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  Speaker 2: She's like, I don't want to take this picture, and
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  Speaker 2: who cut my hair like this?
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  Speaker 1: Who gave me the bangs.
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  Speaker 2: Who did buy hair like this?
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  Speaker 1: What a cutie? What a cutie now. Judith Barci was
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  Speaker 1: born on June sixth, nineteen seventy eight. She is the
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  Speaker 1: only child of Maria and Joseph Barsi, and from the
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  Speaker 1: very start, her mom had big plans. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: how cute is that picture of her?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that wouldn't stay her as much cute.
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  Speaker 1: Now. Maria immediately began training Judith for a Hollywood career,
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  Speaker 1: and if you think she was realistic, well not exactly
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  Speaker 1: quote I said, I wouldn't waste my time. Her uncle,
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  Speaker 1: Joseph Weldon later said, I told her the chances are
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  Speaker 1: one in ten thousand that she was succeeded. But you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't tell Maria nothing.
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  Speaker 2: No, you could not, because guess what, she was not
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  Speaker 2: listening to odds, and somehow she proved him wrong. I
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  Speaker 2: like to think she's like me, you tell me I
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  Speaker 2: can't do something, I'm going to do it. But look
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  Speaker 2: at that picture. She's so cute. Now. All those lessons
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  Speaker 2: and posture, poise and voice they paid off. Accidentally, guy.
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  Speaker 2: One day, when Judith was just five, she was skating
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  Speaker 2: in an ice rink, not acting just skating, okay, But
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  Speaker 2: a commercial crew noticed this tiny, pictious girl gliding across
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  Speaker 2: the ice and thought, yep, she's perfect, and just like
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  Speaker 2: that she got hired.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. From there things started snow. Judith became a successful
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  Speaker 1: commercial actress, and part of her secret weapon was that
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  Speaker 1: she looked much younger than she really was. Her agent,
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  Speaker 1: Ruth Hansen, said that when Judith was ten, she was
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  Speaker 1: still playing seven or eight year olds, which is a
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  Speaker 1: very big deal in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Now, she was short for her age, only three feet
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  Speaker 1: eight inches, just a little, a little bity thing. She
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  Speaker 1: was a little elf, I know, right, a little. She
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  Speaker 1: was getting injections at UCLA to help her grow, which
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  Speaker 1: is something many kids have to do.
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  Speaker 2: Essex, I believe Rutcrime Ji yeah, rue Crime had that done. Now.
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  Speaker 2: By the time she was hitting double digits, Judith had
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  Speaker 2: appeared in seventy two commercials.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, look at that one, And do you guys remember
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  Speaker 1: that because I do. Oh yes, well before I was around,
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  Speaker 1: but I remember that still seeing it even.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember the Wales name and I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember the shammou thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like you, I don't know if that is shamu.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, I went out for Willy Trainer. No, free
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  Speaker 2: Willy wasn't out yet.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't sake, No, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: But guys, she didn't stop there. Okay. She was taking
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  Speaker 2: on TV and movie roles too. Okay. She appeared in
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  Speaker 2: shows like Growing Pains, Cheers, Remington Still, and even in
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  Speaker 2: the TV movie Fatal Vision, where she played a child
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  Speaker 2: murdered by her father. Yeah, and yes, she was also
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  Speaker 2: in the film Jaws The Revenge. Now for Captain, we
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  Speaker 2: need to point out that that is a really good movie, okay,
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  Speaker 2: because she was very upset that we were not giving
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  Speaker 2: it the recognition it deserves.
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  Speaker 1: I like Jaws for the Revenge. I'm a big fan
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  Speaker 1: of Jaws for the Revenge. Love that Jaws one and four,
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  Speaker 1: did not care for.
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  Speaker 2: Three and two. Yeah. Now, not quite a household name,
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  Speaker 2: but she was making serious money around one hundred thousand
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  Speaker 2: a year, which helped her parents by a modest three
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  Speaker 2: bedroom house in West Hills in nineteen eighty five. And guys,
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  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five money, that's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That is a lot. I don't know what it would
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  Speaker 2: be today, but that's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: A lot, I mean, I mean it's crazy now. Unfortunately, though,
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  Speaker 1: her acting career came with a cost. Though now, school
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  Speaker 1: often took a back seat to auditions in filming. Former
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  Speaker 1: classmate Lisa Williams remembered she missed being in school because
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  Speaker 1: she missed her friends a lot. But when Judah did
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  Speaker 1: have free time, she was polite and charming, and Lisa's mom, Linda,
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  Speaker 1: said her mother had taught her to be so polite.
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  Speaker 1: She'd even come over to swim and their pools sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: this tiny professional and a little blond body with like
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  Speaker 1: some magical manager celebrity. She's just so freaking cute.
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  Speaker 2: You can't help but smile. You can't help but smile
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  Speaker 2: when you look at her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, in classic La fashion, Judith Barci's big break didn't
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  Speaker 2: come from auditions or agent calls. It came from a
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  Speaker 2: skating rink, Okay, just gliding, looking effortless and catching the
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  Speaker 2: eye of someone who saw talent before it even knew
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  Speaker 2: it was talent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just an amazing Hollywood story, you know. So it's
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  Speaker 1: like three hundred thousand dollars today for a ten year old,
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  Speaker 1: For a ten year old, you know and her dad
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  Speaker 1: was still working as a plumber like the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: so that he should be because that was her money,
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  Speaker 1: not his, but true to go there. Oh, now that's
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  Speaker 1: when we started getting into the not great stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: oh that reminds me before I do get into that tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Because this episode deals a lot with domestic violence, we
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  Speaker 1: are going to put a banner at the bottom of
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  Speaker 1: our screen that it's going to display a text number
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  Speaker 1: you can text or the number for a twenty four
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  Speaker 1: to seven domestic violence hotline at the bottom. That way,
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  Speaker 1: if you need help to get out of a situation,
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  Speaker 1: please call and do just know you're never ever alone
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  Speaker 1: in that. And this is Domestic Violence Awareness Month. I
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  Speaker 1: did not purposely plan this story for Actually, this one
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  Speaker 1: got pushed back to now. It's supposed to come earlier.
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  Speaker 1: But so we'll have that scrolling down there if anybody
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  Speaker 1: needs now, no one.
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  Speaker 2: Fill a shame. It happens in every walk of life.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. It is not like free of one demograph,
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  Speaker 1: it is not. Now. The darkest most chilling figure in
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  Speaker 1: this story is Joseph Barci. On paper, he said he
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  Speaker 1: valued family above all else, Like I haven't heard that
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  Speaker 1: already today. If you were in court with me, you'll know.
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  Speaker 1: He once told his brother in law, quote, if the
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  Speaker 1: family life is gone, then life is not worth living.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds noble, right, but in reality, Joe ruled his household
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  Speaker 1: with an iron tongue, not fists. Words were his weapon
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  Speaker 1: of choice, and sometimes words can cut just as deep.
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  Speaker 2: I actually just told my leader for the county thing
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  Speaker 2: yesterday that I personally think words her worse than the
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  Speaker 2: fist because they last longer and they live in your
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  Speaker 2: head forever.
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  Speaker 1: Mm, yes, man, I do so, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Now. By the mid nineteen eighties, his marriage to Maria
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  Speaker 2: was crumbling. Years of drinking, years of bitterness, years of grudges.
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  Speaker 2: Maria refused to just let go of them, so Joseph Wealden,
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  Speaker 2: her brother, said that the fights had left the marriage
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  Speaker 2: in tatters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then there was the horrifying moment with Judith.
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  Speaker 1: She was preparing to leave La for the Bahamas to
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  Speaker 1: fill film draws the revenge, Joe pulled a knife on
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  Speaker 1: his ten year old daughter and said, quote, if you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: decide not to come back, I will cut your throat.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine a little girl terrified just trying to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: follow her dreams threatened by the one person who should
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: have protected her and been supporting her.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: And no, I mean, what in the actual hell who
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: says that, whether you're the parent or not to a child.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Oh and guys, earlier I said I don't think I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: like Joe as if I'm going to just tell y'all
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: it's awful and I really do not like himing bit
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: he is a piece of shit.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And this story doesn't get better.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: It doesn't. So. Even as a child, Judith was known
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: as bubbly, happy, full of life. Her agent, Ruth Hansen,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: remembered how the little girl's mood changed in her last
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: year of filming. Joe had refused an airline ticket to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: visit Judith during Jaws the Revenge filming, yet he raged
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: at her departure in one call from New York to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: the family, terrified Judith. When he reminded her, he said,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: remember what I told you before you left, and she
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: ran crying to her bedroom.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I'm a pigtail picture of her, so freaking cute now.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: When she returned home two months later, the ras and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Joe hadn't cooled. Judith's distress was so intense that she
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: began plucking out her eyelashes and even her cat's whiskers
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: just to cope. Her mother confided to neighbors that Joe
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: became abusive and threatening when he drank, and that she
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was thinking about filing for divorce and moving into a
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: daytime refuge she'd rented, But Maria hesitated. She had worked
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: so hard for Judith's career, you know, leaving the house
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and the life they built just felt impossible.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, I want to remind everybody. We need to
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: remember that it's hard for women to make the decision
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to leave an abuser. It sounds easy, but it's not. Guys.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: They literally tell her down every ounce of your self esteem, everything.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: So just remember that it's not an easy decision to make.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And it's sure. Shit wasn't easy in the seventies and eight.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's hard now?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Now. A few days before the tragedy, Maria told
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: neighbor Enis Daily, I can't leave because he'll come after us.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: He's threatened to burn the house down, and she was
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: trying to stay one step ahead, cashing judas twelve thousand
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: dollars federal tax refund check before Joe could get to it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Friends and colleagues remember Joe as obsessively controlling. Peter Kevilyn,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: who we mentioned earlier. His friend and fellow plumbers, said
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Joe told him five hundred times that he was going
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to kill his wife. I know that's very different than
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the statement he said earlier. I don't understand why they're
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that different, but they were. And when Keviln Warren quote,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: if you kill her, what will happen to your little one?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Joe's response, I got to kill her too. Little one
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was Judith. Of course that was his name for her,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: which if you watched Land Before Time, that's what Littlefoot's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: mom says. Anyway, consumed by rage, that is exactly what
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he did.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Now, I want to know, do we know if Peter
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: ever called the police or anyone and told them, because
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: five hundred times, even if it was only fifty times,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: that's a lot.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: No, I don't believe. So.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Now, the pattern of abuse was relentless threats, intimidation, alternating
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: promises of violence towards his wife or even his daughter.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Neighbors witnessed his controlling behavior first, and one neighbor recalled
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: how Judas's father smashed a kite her mother had bought
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: her just because Judith wasn't sharing it properly, Joe sometimes
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: saying he would kill his wife, others times saying he
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: would kill himself in Judith and leave Maria alive to suffer.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: He's really a piece of shit.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Guys, Yeah he is. Now. Maria did try to protect
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: her daughter. She filed a police report in December nineteen
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: eighty six for threats and physical abuse, but without visible injuries.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: She eventually declined to prosecute. Joe had quit drinking two
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: years prior, but the damage was done. His wife wouldn't
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: forgive him, and he couldn't let go. He turned to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: another woman, showered her with gifts, and all the while
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: though little Judath's distress grew.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now, guys, I have to say, unless Joseph got
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: help and therapy, I can tell you that just stopping
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: drinking did not change him, and he was now what
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: some would call a sober drunk because the alcohol just
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: made it worse, you know exactly now. Industry friends and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: neighbors tried to help, even offering refuge, but Maria hesitated,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: wanting to protect her daughter while holding on to the
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: life and home that built through Judas career.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: By May, Judith was so distraught that she couldn't even
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: attend an audition. Her agent, Ruth Hansen, finally stepped in,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: urging Maria to take her daughter to a psychologist. The
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: therapist refused to discuss the case with Ruth for good reason,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: but Hansen said she called after one visit and said, Ruth,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: it is extreme verbal, mental and emotional problems with this
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: child and I have to report it to Children's Services.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: That's you know. They didn't have hippat this time.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: By the way, A spokesperson from Children's Services said, Maria
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Barci told them she had a plan of action she
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: felt safe with and so the agency let her carry
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: it out. That involved eventually, you know, separating from her husband.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: But Ruth Hansen said the mother described a different encounter
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: with the case worker. She said they weren't going to
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: do anything, and so she said, I guess I'll have
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: to handle it myself.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Which that is sometimes what happens. It is, you know. Now.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Maria Barci's plan of action involved moving to a Panorama
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: City apartment, which she started renting in May. She would
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: spend her days there with her daughter, then return home
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: at night. But even that plan was fraught. Maria was
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: still hesitant to leave the neighborhood and still torn between
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: her daughter's safety and the home they had built. Family
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: friends spoke darkly of Judas's home life, quote, I'm afraid
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to go home. My daddy is miserable. My daddy is
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: drunk every day, and I know he wants to kill
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: my mother. Judath said.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry a child, saying that a child should never
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: say those words. I'm sorry.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: They shouldn't they should never have to be robed.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And then came the final fateful days. Monday, July twenty fifth,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Judith missed an appointment at Anna Barbara Productions, Inc. Joe
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: said a car took Marie and Judith away for the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: day of San Diego. That night, Joe made a chilling
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: call to Ruth Hansen, saying he had decided to move out,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: but only after saying goodbye to his little girl.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Sometime during a mysterious four day span ending Wednesday, July
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: twenty seventh, nineteen eighty eight, police believe Joseph Barci followed
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: through on threats he'd been making for at least five years.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: He shot and killed his wife and daughter before turning
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the gun on himself.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Now. Around eight thirty am that Wednesday, neighbor Enis Daley
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: was tending to her garden when she heard what sounded
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: like an explosion next door.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I heard a loud bang and saw smoke rising from
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the house, she recalled. My first thought as I ran
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to call nine one one was he's done it. He's
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: killed them and set the house on fire, just like
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: he said he would.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Another neighbor, Michael Cutt, grabbed Daily's garden hose and tried
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: to enter through a sliding door at the back of
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the house, but the thick smoke forced him back.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Emergency crews soon arrived at the home on the twenty
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to one zero zero block of McHale Street. Inside, investigators
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: discovered a horrific scene. Joseph Barci, fifty five, had shot
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: his forty eight year old wife Maria and their eleven
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: year old daughter, Judith. He then drenched their bodies in
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: gasoline and set them on fire before going to the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: garage and fatally shooting himself with a thirty two caliber pistol.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Now, the fire consumed much of the home's interior, but
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Judas body was found in her canopy bed and Marie's
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: in the hallway. Both had been shot once in the head.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: It appears a flammable liquid was poured on the child
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: or her bed, said police Lieutenant Warren Bowles.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: The pistol was still clutched in the father's hand and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a gas can laying a few feet away due to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: small pink television and one her father had given her
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to make amends after once yanking her hair in anger,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: stood beside her bed, untouched by the flames.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Now. The day after the murders, Bonnie Gold, a spokeswoman
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: for the Studio City Talent agency that represented Judith, reflected
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: on the young actress's extraordinary promise. She was very successful,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: with every door open to her. Gold said, there's no
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: telling how far she would have gone. She was adorable,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: quite precocious, blonde and blue blue eyed, recalled former neighbor
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: Adrie and Conway. I can't believe he would do this,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: she said.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: No. Why would a father kill the child he supposedly adored?
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Was it a final twisted act of control? I guess
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: maybe he felt that possessiveness, said detective Sandra Palmer, who
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: investigated the case. If I can't have her, nobody's going
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to have her. Others offered a more tragic theory that
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Joseph couldn't bear the thought of leaving Judith alone after
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: killing her mother and himself.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Now, Judah's final role Wasn't All Dogs Go to Heaven?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Where she voiced Anne Marie, a sweet orphan who could
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: talk to animals. The film was released after her death,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: giving her voice a hunting kind of immortality.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is Burt's rough guys Now. In
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: June twenty twenty four, a viral TikTok reignited interest in
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the tragedy by suggesting a deeper layer of the movie's
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: emotional final scene. Whether or not this is true, I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: don't know, but the creator claimed that Burt Reynolds, who
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: voiced Charlie, the dog that Anne Marie is hugging there
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: in the poster, recorded his goodbye scene to Anne Marie
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: privately with only an audio engineer present.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry they lost count of how many takes it
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: to Burt Reynolds to get through the scene without breaking down.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: The creator said it wasn't Charlie saying goodbye to Anton Marie,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: it was Burt Reynolds saying goodbye to Judith. Barci hmm. Now.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Reynolds has never publicly commented on the recording, but the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: story only deep in the heartbreak surrounding judas death. Charlie,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Will I ever see you again?
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Sure? Sure you will again? You know goodbye is on forever?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Then goodbye, Charlie. I love you? Yeah you? Oh my god,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I can't even in case you've never seen the movie.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: As I said at the beginning, Land before Time and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: all dogs go to heaven, will break your hearts, say
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: break your heart. And then you add this on top
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of of that, and it's it's something now. The murders
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: of Judith and her mother sent shock waves through Hollywood
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and beyond, exposing painful gaps in the system meant to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: protect victims of domestic abuse. Despite numerous reports of Joseph's
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: violent behavior, officials said there wasn't enough evidence to remove
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Judith from the home.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Now, this is part of the whole problem, said Helen Kleinberg,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a member of the Los Angeles Counting Commission for Children's Services. Sorry, guys,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: my dogs are losing their mind. It's easy to focus
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: on physical abuse because we can see it now.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: The case sparked outrage and renewed efforts to reform how
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: authorities respond to emotional and psychological abuse, often invisible but
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: just as devastating. How do we protect someone from threats
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: we really honestly can't. Detective Palmer told the Los Angeles Times,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I could say I'm going to kill you, and I
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: have that right and a free society to say that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: What I don't have, though, is the right to carry
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it out.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to just go on record and say I
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: think you never have the right to say you're going
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: to kill a child ever. Ever.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see how you could ever even
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: just see it in the first place.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Now. In September nineteen eighty eight, Robert L. Chaffee, director
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: of the Department of Children's Services, and formed the Los
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Angeles County Board of Supervisors that his agency would strengthen
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: training on the dangerous domestic violence possesses to children.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: From then on, caseworkers were also required to notify mandatory
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: reporters such as therapist, when cases they had reported were closed,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: a safeguard inspired by the tragic fact that judas therapist
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: was never informed that her case had been dropped.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Now, Judith Barcie and her mother were laid to rest
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: at Forest Lawn, Hollywood Hills Cemetery, but for many years
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: their graves remained unmarked. With no surviving family to make
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: formal arrangements, the two were buried without the headstones.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Which I just I can't even I can't even believe that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I I can't. And then, yeah, we.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Haven't all their family money, like really, I'm sure. Now.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: It wasn't until two thousand and four that fans from
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: around the world came together through an online fundraiser to
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: give them a proper memorial.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Sorry, it always gets me when people do really nice
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: things and for no reason. They didn't do it for publicity.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: They did it because they were just good people and
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: they wanted to honor this little girl.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Now, the headstone now bears an inscription from one of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Judas's most beloved roles, her Land Before Time character ducky.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Edge.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Beneath their names are the simple, joyful words that define
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: her performance. Yep, yep, yep, a fitting tribute to a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: bright talent whose voice continues to echo long after her passing.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, oh man, oh damn cap and with that picture, shit,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it's beautiful. She Okay, sorry, y'all, we told you you
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: were gonna need Kleenexes. This is a really it's a real,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: real sad one.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I think so many people failed this little girl.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now, this story is just so sad. Sweet little Judith.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: She never got the chance to see the movies she
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: was in. She never got the chance to be adored
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: by the millions of children who imitated her infamous yep, yep, yep,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: yep daily We all got to grow up, But sweet
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: little Judith will forever be a little girl. I especially
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: named this episode all Duckies Go to Heaven for her
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and her memory. Thank you, Judith for being a part
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of my childhood, and I hope you know you are
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: loved and impacted so many of us even with your
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: short time here on earth.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Oh well, guys, I have to be honest. I hate
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: everything about this case except for Marie and Judith. I mean,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the story of Judas's life breaks something deep inside me.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: She seemed to be just a sweet, bright and talented
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: little girl who had a full life ahead of her,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and she experienced so much tragedy even before our tragic death.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: But sadly, her mother was trapped in a cycle of abuse,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and she, truly, I think tried the best she knew
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: how to handle the situation. And guys, I hate that
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Joseph was such a coward. I wish she would not
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: have been successful in killing himself and that he would
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: have been punished and put in jail for life. Because, guys,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the betrayal by the man who's supposed to protect and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: love you is something I can't even put words to,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: but I do think this should remind all of us
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: that no one knows exactly what's going on behind closed doors.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: We should never judge women who find themselves in this situation.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And as I say on Midday Missing, if you see something,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: say something, don't be scared to report something like this. Thankfully,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: there are many agencies and nonprofits that can help you.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: If you are in an abusive situation. You can call
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: the National Domestic Copline one eight hundred and seventy nine
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: nine seven two three three, or you can text start
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: to eight eight seven eight eight. Guys, they're available twenty
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: four hours a day, three hundred and sixty five days
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: a year, and they have people who speak every language.
• 42:05
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• 42:11
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• 42:15
  Speaker 1: that's all there was. Because it was it was long
• 42:20
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• 42:25
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• 42:31
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• 42:35
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• 42:45
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  Speaker 2: starting in November, but it will not be released until
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  Speaker 2: next year, probably March or April, but I will be
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  Speaker 2: recording them up until then, so be on the lookout
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  Speaker 2: for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. Now, if you haven't yet, please
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  Speaker 1: you don't miss when we go live or drop an
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  Speaker 1: episode because we always got something always. Is there anything
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  Speaker 1: you would like to say before we go or sign off?
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to thank everyone for listening and supporting us.
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  Speaker 2: I know this case was a hard one and it
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  Speaker 2: probably triggered a lot of us. But guys, until next time,
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  Speaker 2: please take care of yourself, stay safe, If you see something,
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  Speaker 2: say something, and as always, enjoy your wine time or
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: your sparkling water.
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  Speaker 1: Oh thank you everyone for listening and supporting us. It
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  Speaker 1: means everything. And until next time, take care of your mind,
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  Speaker 1: take care of each other, and never stop asking the
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  Speaker 1: hard questions, and as always say go forth and be amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So by Guy Bode. Guys,