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Hailie Deegan | Kenny Conversation #17 · Kenny Wallace Media

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People don't realize how different the East Coast and
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West Coast racing worlds are. They are two different worlds,
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totally separate worlds. What?
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Do you think's different? It's the people.
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It's the, I'd say how the racing, how people get along is
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very different. Like I was so used to like
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everyone's buddies, like we all, yeah, we all might take each
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other out. But like we're all kind of cool
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after the race and like we'll probably all go hang out at
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least like you're kind of group of people.
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But it's only, I really like that in stock car racing and
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everyone knows everybody and everybody's super friendly.
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And I feel like in NASCAR racing, everyone's so like
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uptight. Yeah, it's like you're
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constantly having to watch your back so someone doesn't stab it.
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I love saying that. Well, as I always say, we got to
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pause a little bit because it's time to interview one of the
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greatest lady racers of our era. Haley.
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Deegan. Haley, how are you doing?
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I'm doing good Hanging out at the house today, so just having
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fun. Yeah, you've been having a lot
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of fun. You ran second in that SRX race.
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Live on ESPN. The flagship station.
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The whole world saw you, but let's talk about that a little
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bit later on. There's there's a little bit to
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get to. We won't rough you up that bad.
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Is that all right? That's good.
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I appreciate it. 22 years old and one thing I never thought
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about is it's you and your mom against the boys.
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It's it's your dad, Brian. And then was it Hudson and Hale?
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Hudson and Hayden. Is that right?
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Yeah, the two little brothers. Do they rough you up since
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you're you're the girl, the family?
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I mean, I think as I was the oldest, I kind of rough them up
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growing up. So I I take, I take
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responsibility for their aggressive demeanor and
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personalities. Yeah, and.
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You know, sometimes I can relate to your dad, Brian, because, you
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know, they put me on Ritlin when I was in school because I was a
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little off off the charts. I've talked to your dad.
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Your dad looks. I think, I think your dad and
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myself could be brothers. What's it up?
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Roughly? Hyper.
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Is he hyper? Very, very.
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I'm surprised. I hope I have that much energy
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when I'm when I'm that age. So I've noticed that.
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Your family and my family are somewhat comparable.
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So my dad Russ, my brother Rusty, my brother Mike, my mom
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ran powder puffs. As we all have been able to
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watch your family grow it, it seems like you all were always
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in racing now. Is that all you know when you
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grew up? Was it just racing all the time?
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Yeah. So I got started in racing when
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I was around 8 years old, and I used to be like a super girly
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girl, like I was in Girl Scouts. I played volleyball, like I was
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pink. Everything like room decorated
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Princess style. Like I was very girly girl.
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Like I was always with my mom, always going shopping to the
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mall together. And then as my dad started
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racing offroad trucks and getting out of the Moto side of
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his career, that's when I started really taking interest
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in it. So it was other kids doing it
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and the Moto scene, when you've made it and you've are at these
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top level competitions, there's no kids there.
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So I never got to witness those things until we started going to
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these off road races and then I started witnessing other kids
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racing and I was like I didn't even know this was an option for
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me. And so that's when I started
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taking interest in it. You know, you really lead me
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right into this direction. And it was, you know, when I
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studied your career. Man, you're really well balanced
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and when I watch your YouTube videos and I want to get to
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YouTube later on. But you've raced to motorcycles.
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You've raced to go karts. You've raced trucks, dirt
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trucks, you know, off road closed course.
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Wow. I mean you really you really
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have only at 22 years old you you've done it all.
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Was that was that path, was that set or did you go hey?
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Now that I'm running go karts, I wanna try motorcycles Or you did
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motorcycles first. What was the the order there?
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So I started out in off road trucks.
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That was the first things that I I drove like little Utvs and
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stuff like just around the house, the property quads like
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just cruising around, like how every kid does when you got some
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acres. And so I really got sorry just
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in the offroad truck stuff because my dad was doing it.
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And then when I was just pretty much in that world and I did go
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karting stuff for practice and a lot of my other friends did it
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for practice too. So it was like, I gotta go, go,
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go hard track, hang out my friends, do some races.
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And my coach at the time he was, he owned a go Kart track, still
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does. And so we would always go out
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there like our group of friends and go practice and it was fun.
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So that's how I kind of got started on the go Kart side of
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things. And then when I got originally
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picked up to run KNN Arca stuff, that's when I started kind of
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branching out and doing some dirt racing, more like dirt
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circle track racing and durable racing.
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So I thought, I just really think that for a driver, the
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most cars you can drive, it's like having another tool in your
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toolbox. It's just something that you can
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utilize when you're in situations on the track, be able
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to pick apart little things or make better decisions or
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whatever it is. I feel like just being able to
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have experience in different cars helps.
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I was out in Sturgis with my brother Rusty, and I can tell
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Rusty really wants to maybe run the SRX series, but but he said,
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he said, you know, he calls me Herman, he says.
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He says, man, you're really fast in your dirt car, but but you
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you keep doing it, you got your reps in, he says.
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I couldn't get back in and he feels like he couldn't be up to
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par. So, So what you're saying is
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it's the reps, it's the constant doing racing, eye hand
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coordination, that's what you feel really helps you.
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Yeah. I think that just having being
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behind the wheel of so many different things, I feel like
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when you're in situations like tough situations, I feel like
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that's when those things come out that you've learned from
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other vehicles and just getting experience, like being able to
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feel things that you haven't in that certain car because you
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drove this car over here, you're like, OK, I remember when I
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drove this, it feels similar and be able to kind of work around
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those things. I think it's just good,
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especially in stock car racing, it's not cheap to get laps.
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So it's definitely something that's hard.
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And so I think utilizing other resources that are more
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financially probably an easy, a little bit less expensive
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decision helps a lot. Well, you, you bring up a really
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good point. I would have never thought about
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that because, I mean, simple. If you're going to run an
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IndyCar, like starting an IndyCar up is like a huge deal.
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Like we're going to start the car up, you know?
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A stock car, people we just fired up.
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But you you bring up a good point.
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So I always talk about family with you because I feel like I
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can relate. So when I first started racing
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in NASCAR, my brother Rusty was there for me.
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Now mind you, my dad was a good racer, my mom, my brother Mike.
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But I'll never forget I went to Martinsville for my very first
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time and. My brother Rusty looks at me and
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goes, You see that curb? I said, yeah, I see that curb on
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the inside. He goes, you do whatever you got
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to do to get that left front down on that curb and roll as
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quick as you can. So my brother gave me advice.
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Did your dad, did he ever, you know, say Haley look, or did he
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tutor you at all? Do you remember any
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circumstances where you like? My dad really helped me there
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mentally. Did that ever happen?
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So I think that happened a lot at the beginning of my career
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when I was doing the offroad truck stuff, because he was so
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versed in that world by the time I started getting good at it.
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He's been doing it for years and been a part of it for years.
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So he knows a lot. He's accomplished a lot in it,
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won a bunch of championships, tons and tons of races, and so
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he knew his stuff when it came to that.
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So he was always able to help me out.
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He spotted me for all my offroad truck races and stuff, and
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that's that's something that's fairly normal.
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And like the offroad seemed like having your dad spot you or
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someone like say your your brother, whoever it is a part of
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your crew. But like, I feel like there was
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so many he you gotta keep mine like I am a girl.
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My demeanor I have. I have three daughters, yes.
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And you probably have realized that your daughters say, who are
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their nieces, Nephews. If they're boys, they're like
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your girls are probably a little bit more, little bit more tamed
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down and not as aggressive, crazy personality, not as
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destructive, whatever it is. And I think that because of
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that, my dad saw that. And because of me being a girl,
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he was always trying to get me fired up, always trying to make
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me be more aggressive and kind of, I don't know, like like that
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fire. And they're mean to really, like
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be aggressive. And I think that's something
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that I learned from him. And I think that was a necessary
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part of like my growing up in my childhood for being a girl
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racer. Because I feel like just girls
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are naturally a little bit more tame, a little bit calmer in
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situations, not as aggressive personalities.
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So that that is really interesting.
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So if your dad would have not roughed you up a little bit,
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would you? Would you have stayed tame?
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A girl? A girly girl.
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I don't think I would have been girly Girl, but I don't think I
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would have been as as aggressive personality as like I am, or at
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least like as aggressive on the track or whatever.
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Or even had as much success as I did.
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Because a lot of the success that I had, like even starting
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out in the stock car stuff came from me being super aggressive
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and him kind of getting me hyped up before the race.
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And I I don't think I would have had that success without him
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kind of being the person to really like, tell me to.
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Yeah, yeah, I get that. Well, you know, there's nothing
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wrong with reminding people. So I want to remind everybody,
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your dad Brian is one of the greatest of all time.
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He's done too much to read off, but as they say in modern era,
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Google it. Yeah, yeah, Google it.
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He he is truly done it all and and he cut a path that helped
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everybody when when you are, you know you're young, you're only
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22. When did when did it dawn on you
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that damn, my dad's famous. Damn, my dad's good.
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You remember a time I think I've always known my dad's good at
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what he does. Whether it was like the motto
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side of things to freestyle, motocross rally cars offered
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trucks. It was kind of just like a like
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I've always known he's good and that's a lot of pressure put on
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someone at like such a. For me like being a young age
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you're a little naive. And so like, I go and I'm like,
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yeah, I just kind of expect my dad to win like type of deal
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just because he gets, which I guess now like my.
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Dad's good, probably a lot of pressure to put on him as his
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daughter, but I think that's his success and everything that he
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has. Like, there's so much I feel
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like I can learn from that and he's accomplished so many
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things, whether it's winning 16X games, medals, winning rally car
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races, offroad truck races. Like he's truly won everything
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he has done. So yeah, he's got to figure it
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out. He's got, he had a massive
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clothing company that was super, super successful, like crazy
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successful. Like as someone who has their
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own merchandise company and also another clothing brand, it's
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hard. It's hard to get started out.
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It's hard to build those relationships and figure out how
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to run a business, especially being new at it, like not having
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other people come in and do it for you.
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So, OK, we've established kind of who you are, where you're
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from, your mom, your brothers. The whole early part of your
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career. So let's let's let's move to
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NASCAR. So you had success.
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I've Googled you. You've had success.
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You went to the West series. How did you go from the early
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part of your career? What was the phone call?
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What do you remember about, Hey, I'm going to, I remembered as
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the Winston W series, but that's a tough series.
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When when do you remember that that taking place now we're
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going out of out of that into the NASCAR type cars.
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So I I haven't really told I guess like the indepth story of
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how it all played out. So I was my mom at 14.
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I saw 15 years old at that time and you got to look at it.
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NASCAR is the biggest form of racing in my opinion in America.
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It's if like I feel like that's where I wanted to end up because
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there was so many. It's like the eyes on it.
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It's just looked at as like the crown jewel of racing.
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And when you're growing up like I want to make it to NASCAR.
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And so that was something that like it was in the back of my
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mind a little bit, but I was racing off road trucks and I
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kind of had peaked there a little bit.
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As in like, there wasn't much more to accomplish like there
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because it is a smaller, smaller series of racing and a smaller
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form of racing to where there isn't like many more levels to
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go up to once you kind of hit the pro classes and do good
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there. So after that I was like, man,
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like I was 15 years old and I think my parents kind of saw it
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too that like what's next? Like, like, I can't just be OK
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with where I'm at like 15 and not work for anything else.
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And so I that's when my mom had signed me up for the NASCAR
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diversity program. Yeah.
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So she signed me up. And it's funny because she
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actually, when she was signing me up online, it said how the
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forms failed or whatever. It didn't go through yada, yada,
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yada. And she's like, man, it's not
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working. And then it just so happened
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that the forms actually went through.
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And so, yeah. And because of that, I came out
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to North Carolina and tested a It was for the Legend, the
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junior, like the diversity program that they have for
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Legend cars to race at the Summer Shootout.
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I end up trying out for that and I made it and I end up racing
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the full Summer Shootout because that and North Carolina I like.
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It's so funny when I explain this to people because I always
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say, like, oh, back in California, back in California,
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back on the West Coast, people don't realize how different the
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East Coast and West Coast racing worlds are.
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They are two different worlds, totally separate worlds.
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What do you think's different? It's the people.
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It's the. I'd say how the racing how
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people get along is very different.
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Like I was so used to like everyone's buddies.
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Like we all yeah, we all might take each other out but like
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we're all kind of cool after the race and like we'll probably all
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go hang out at least like you're kind of group of people.
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But it's only, I really like that in stock car racing and
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everyone knows everybody and everybody's super friendly and I
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feel like in NASCAR racing everyone's so like uptight like
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dog. Yeah, it's like you're
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constantly having to watch your back so someone doesn't stab it.
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You're your sponsor. Yes, yes.
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And I wasn't used to that stuff, like at all.
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And so, getting back to what I was like, I always get off
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track. Haley, this is Kenny
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conversation we had. We had the Tony Stewart said the
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same thing. But yeah, it's OK because we're
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we're in no order here, but. Anyway, yeah, so you you signed
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up for the diversity program and I said what's the difference
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between East Coast, West Coast? I agree with you.
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So anyway, you're you got the diversity program and we're
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trying to get Winston W racing. So that's and I didn't even know
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what the the K&N series was. I didn't know the difference
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between a late model and a super late model.
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Like this was all foreign to me. Like I was so new.
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I'm 15 years old and I was stuck in my world on the West Coast of
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off road racing. And so I came over here and I
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ended up doing a late model test.
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And like my parents were just like, well, like we see the late
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models are kind of like the next thing to go.
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And my parents were kind of foreign to it too.
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And they're like, well, let's go do a test or something to see if
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you even like can drive one. And they're tough, tough
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competition. Yeah.
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And so that's when I went to, it was at Hickory or no, it was
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Greenville Hickory and Greenville Pickens.
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We did two day test and so I want to try two different
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tracks. No clue why, No clue.
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And so we end up going out there and there was someone there who
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had a connection with Toyota and it's some sort of testing with
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some other girls at Toyota. And they ended up coming to us
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and we're like, hey, I Toyotas been looking for some girls or
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whatever, like been kind of scouting around and out and
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they're like, do you care if we call them?
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And my parents were like, sure, like, I don't know.
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Like we don't know what that entails.
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And so I guess the guy ended up calling them, they got in
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contact with us And then that's when I got a test at Irwindale
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in a Canaan car and I still remember it to this day.
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It was in Todd Gillen's KN car when he drove for BMR, the 16
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car at Irwindale. We end up testing there and I
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did really good. And there was a few other girls
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they tested out and I end up doing the best out of those
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group of girls. And there was, I guess it was
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like a they've been testing girls constantly and so I am
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doing really good with that and I got three-year contract with
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Toyota to go K&N racing. And so that's how I ended up
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actually getting into the K&NW series with Bill McNally.
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I'm going to make sure Charlie clips this part right here.
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I would have. I had no idea.
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And I don't think many people know that that's how you.
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One of your roads is the diversity and and literally, you
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know what? When people are looking for an
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in and here your mom just got on the Internet.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And put it in there.
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So. And you know what's so funny?
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What's so coincidental? Like that?
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The racing world is small, very small.
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When I went for my first year for the Diversity program, I
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guess my only year that I did trace the Summer Shootout.
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My boyfriend, who we've been dating for 3 / 3 years now and
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he was racing for the Diversity program at that time in the KNN
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stuff. And so, like, we've always know
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anybody for like, ever since, like, in North Carolina.
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Yeah, I met my boyfriend at the diversity program.
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He's a boy and I'm a girl. So anyway.
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NASCAR watches all the Kenny conversations, so let me get
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that right. That is the NASCAR W series.
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I'm an old guy. So yeah, when Winston was
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around, you know, the tobacco company, it was the, you know,
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the Winston W series. But it is now NASCAR W series.
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So you went on there, There's no doubt you're you're really good.
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I've watched a lot of your races.
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He had to, because you became the first female driver in
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history. To win.
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And you didn't win one, you won in 2018-2019.
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Now I loved watching those races because now that I'm talking to
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you, your dad came out and you in a little bit.
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Them them boys were blocking you, wouldn't give you no room.
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And short track racing. You know, I lived 27 years in in
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Concord, NC, just like you moved from Saint Louis.
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There, when you grow up around the bullrings, you just can't
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pass. Yeah, it's it's hard to get up
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underneath somebody. So sometimes you got to move
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them and you moved them, but but you did it right you you got
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them, you know, up out of the groove getting into the corner.
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What do you remember about those two, what I call groundbreaking
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wins, first lady racer to win in the NASCAR W years?
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What do you remember? I remember the one at Vegas on
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dirt. That was bad.
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Yeah, that one was cool. So I'll be, I'll be super honest
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with you and like that's something that I probably, I I
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feel comfortable staying around you to where you won't bash my
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dad for doing this. But no, because me and your dad
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are always. Like this so.
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My dad was always amping me up and racing.
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I think we've gotten the point of that and my spotter.
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At the time, I was pretty close with him my first win and my dad
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was always like, and we always had talked about like if I was
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in second, like I'm moving it like I don't care, it's a big
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deal. And it might have been kind of
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that information fed into me, but my dad a little bit.
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But I remember when I was in second my dad, you gotta think
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about most people have radios and stuff, like when you're kind
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of at local races. My dad keyed up on the radio
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with like a lab or two to go and told me to move it, which I had
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already kind of planned to, but he keyed up and did that in,
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like for the next two to three years, like it's finally I'd
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say. Two years ago.
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It's kind of past now, but that was like the talk for a while.
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How is like, my dad's the crazy dad on the radio and I'm like,
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he's not he. He just keyed up one time.
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Or am I time to win? Yeah, which I'm like.
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I'm thankful he did. Like I don't.
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I didn't see a problem with it, especially back in the day.
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I didn't see a problem with it. Now I'm like, obviously you
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can't do that during like a truck race or something.
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But back then, like we were so foreign to it that like, I'm
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like he would have keyed up and told me that and any other like
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he has. Like back when I was younger
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racing, I'm like, I didn't see a problem with it.
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I won. So I really didn't.
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Well, you know what, Haley, Obviously I'm a lot older than
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you. And years ago, the great Dale
22:41
Earnhardt senior, he became the intimidator.
22:44
And here's why. Because you look in your mirror
22:47
and you would see Dale Senior coming, right?
22:50
And you would try to race him. Well, he wouldn't give you 3
22:54
seconds. He popped you right in the ass
22:57
and moved you out of the way. So then I said one of the
23:00
reasons Earnhardt won so many races is because every time we
23:04
looked in our mirrors and we saw Dale Senior coming, we moved out
23:08
of the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:10
He didn't have to race nobody. That's funny.
23:15
Blame it on your dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:18
No one on him. It wasn't me driving.
23:22
It was him for sure. That that's badass.
23:25
OK, so you won races, 2018-2019, NASCAR, W series, big wins.
23:35
So now we're going to move on through the big time.
23:39
Now we're going to go E you you've talked about a little
23:43
bit, but at what point did the whole Fam family say, you know
23:50
what we're like to clamp. It's on Beverly Hillbillies.
23:53
We're moving E because when did that happen?
23:57
So we didn't actually move to the East Coast full time like
24:01
really ever and. Like I didn't until I was on my
24:05
own out here because I I have a little brother who races full
24:09
time now. Supercross Pro Motocross and he
24:12
has just gone pro this year but he was this rising star in the
24:16
amateur inks that like. Like a big star, it won
24:20
everything there is danger, deagan.
24:22
Yeah, yeah, that would be him. And so he is literally, he's
24:27
looked at as like the guy, especially in the amateur inks
24:29
growing up that like if Hayden didn't win, what happened?
24:33
Why, why didn't he win? It was that type of deal where
24:35
it's like the pressure is to not lose.
24:37
And so they were so focused on also him.
24:40
They kind of got me going, got me in the motion of things, and
24:44
then they were so focused on him and making sure his career was
24:47
good. And Moto was all on the West
24:48
Coast for the most part at least, like it has been until
24:51
the past couple years. And so they still had to be
24:54
there with him. And he was training every single
24:56
day, going to the track every single day, practicing.
24:59
So like, it takes a lot. And so I knew that kind of going
25:02
into it. We were out here part time.
25:04
My parents had built a house up in Morganton, NC, and we were
25:08
out here part time when we kind of could be when we gone like
25:11
the spurts of East Coast races when I was doing ARCA and that
25:15
that sort of things. But we were never out here full
25:18
time. So.
25:20
So you finally make the move and you end up going in the NASCAR
25:26
trucks here. So.
25:27
So to this day, here's where we're at.
25:29
You, You race right now in the NASCAR Craftsman trucks here as
25:33
you run a Ford for Ford Motorsports #13.
25:39
You know, I was always a little worried about the number 13, but
25:43
I started 13th at Volusia and won my very first Xfinity race.
25:48
What do you think about 13? Is that okay with you?
25:50
I mean, I'm not a superstition person.
25:53
I've never been like all these superstitions that I hear of,
25:56
like I didn't have that growing up and I never heard of this.
25:59
People are like, you can't. And I think I kind of broke that
26:02
when people are like, you can't have a green car.
26:04
And then I won with the K&N car, my Monster Energy car.
26:08
And so I was like, OK, not real. And I Then there was one about
26:12
like, you can't eat. Like chicken on race day or on
26:16
race day. Yeah.
26:17
And I'm, I don't like peanut butter, so I'm fine with that.
26:19
But I'm like, there's a lot of superstitions.
26:21
I feel like I learn a new one with every single person I meet.
26:25
So I'm going to broach this conversation and you're going to
26:31
answer any way you want. Kenny.
26:33
Conversation is fun. We don't get anybody in trouble.
26:39
We're in NASCAR now. You're in the Truck Series.
26:42
It just seems to me like when I watch these races those boys a
26:48
lot of the times take advantage of you.
26:50
They wreck the shit out of you and and and I and I'm listen, I
26:54
ran 905 NASCAR races and I remind everybody of that.
26:59
I've been there, done it. Do they wreck you?
27:04
I would say it's a. It's a double edged sword
27:08
because I don't think people go out there and just like I'm
27:10
gonna go after Haley and type deal.
27:13
I don't think it's like that, but I think it's maybe I've been
27:18
over the last 2 1/2 years a little bit less aggressive
27:21
because I kind of wanted to take a step back and.
27:24
I knew the Truck Series is going to be hard.
27:25
I knew going into it and I still had a lot to learn.
27:29
I didn't know a lot about the mechanical side of stock cars.
27:32
Like even still going into the Truck Series, I was still
27:35
learning so much and I still am learning a lot but and I feel
27:38
like there's always more to learn.
27:40
But it was something to where I'm like, you know, I'm gonna be
27:43
less aggressive, I'm gonna be less of the person.
27:45
Coming in here going like I'm gonna smoke all you guys type
27:48
deal. Like I'm not going to be that
27:49
person. Going to the Truck Series
27:50
because it's going to be hard and I know that.
27:52
And so I kind of took a step back and I think with that I
27:55
became a little bit less aggressive.
27:57
And so I think I got into the the category of people that like
28:03
there's certain people on the track that you kind of know you
28:05
can take advantage of. And I think, yeah.
28:08
And I think I put myself like, didn't mean to, but like almost
28:13
accidentally put myself into that category.
28:15
And so I think this last year I've tried to be more
28:18
aggressive, tried to kind of get back what I had before.
28:22
And I feel like because I was looked at as a person that's not
28:25
as aggressive or not as or easy to take advantage of.
28:29
And I think because I was looked at like that that I wasn't that
28:32
when I do start being aggressive, I just get junked
28:36
that like. But there's no like intimidation
28:39
factor, right? Yeah, I get that.
28:41
You know what, I wasn't going to go to this situation now, but
28:47
but it's the perfect time and I I can't help myself.
28:50
So you you ran second in the big SRX race at Eldora.
28:57
So no matter what, no matter what we think of the SRX series,
29:01
it's really famous. We know the cars are what they
29:05
are, We know there's 12 or 13. But when you ran second, Tony
29:12
Stewart got out of his car and said damn, Haley is really good
29:16
on dirt. And then your interview for me,
29:21
because I got three daughters, your interview was very
29:23
emotional because I've raced so much.
29:25
I get see in your eyes. The glisten, yeah, because you
29:29
were happy, because you you've been roughed up over the last
29:32
two years. But we're all racers go through
29:35
that. But what I really drew my
29:37
attention to was that you said, you know, and we all do it.
29:41
Haley, I'm not just saying this to you.
29:44
Even even Mark Martin said listen, when we win we say, Oh
29:47
no, when's our next win going to be?
29:50
So you've been roughed up lately over the last two years.
29:53
You get the 2nd place finish at Eldora.
29:56
Tony Stewart says, Oh my God, she's an incredible dirt racer.
30:01
But you you said I have been lacking some confidence lately
30:05
and we all do. What techniques do you use?
30:10
Like like I have Square D and I'm and I'm popular for telling
30:15
the truth. They spent 22 grand on me going
30:18
to Topeka, KS to take sports therapy.
30:22
Really. I, my brother Rusty chewed my
30:25
ass and he goes. You should have came to me.
30:27
I'd have helped you. That's funny.
30:32
So, so you know you don't have to say anything, but do you?
30:36
Have you used any techniques here like?
30:38
Because sounds to me like you need to start, you know, getting
30:42
going again. What's What's the latest on
30:45
confidence and techniques of getting your mojo back?
30:48
So it's funny actually about two to three weeks ago, like, I
30:52
always felt like I was going downward.
30:54
And I'll be honest about it, like I felt like I was going in
30:56
a downward spiral. Obviously when you aren't doing
30:59
good in racing, or at least having those results, it don't
31:01
matter if you're running 10th. And you get wrecked.
31:04
People look at that number, they go on that racing reference and
31:07
they look up, oh she finished 36th.
31:09
Well yeah, cuz I was running 8th and I got junked, but well
31:12
that's what I meant. From early you get wrecked a
31:14
lot. Yeah, Yeah.
31:15
And so people look a lot at that end number and don't see how it
31:19
went throughout the race. And I think with that, though,
31:22
it becomes like, okay, what if sponsors are getting unhappy?
31:26
What if? Whoever, the team's not
31:28
believing you, whatever it is. Like I feel like and I those
31:31
aren't things like my team believes in me and I'm super
31:34
thankful for that. I have a really good crew of
31:35
guys behind me. But like, obviously it makes it
31:38
tougher to get new sponsors if I do want to move up to Xfinity,
31:41
which I do. It makes it hard to find
31:44
sponsors when those results aren't there and plain and
31:47
simple, because people look at that end result number and and
31:50
don't see if you are getting better.
31:52
You're not whatever it is, but with that.
31:56
I just felt like I was spiraling and my confidence was completely
31:59
gone. Start questioning myself of
32:01
like, man, can I really do this? Like do I have it in me to go to
32:06
that next level? Do I have that?
32:08
Do I have the ability to? And I just kind of like, I
32:11
started talking to a few people about it and I actually started
32:14
working with again as of two weeks ago, started talking to
32:18
him and he actually came to that SRXA with me was my old driving
32:21
coach, like driving mental coach.
32:23
He helped me out when I was winning in the offer.
32:26
Road stuff helped me. He's the one that owns a go Kart
32:29
track. Troy Adams and he helped me
32:31
through my whole start of KNN and all of that and then once he
32:35
cuz he lives on the West Coast. Once I kind of came East Coast.
32:39
His son races too so it's hard to make that happen.
32:42
So I actually started working with him again and he came to
32:45
this last race, came to the SRX race and the truck race just
32:49
super happy. He was there to see me do good
32:50
at the SRX series but he helped me so much build my confidence
32:54
back in the day. Like I I definitely.
32:56
Wasn't cocky back in the day, but I did not lack confidence.
32:59
Like I thought I was one badass person back in the day.
33:04
And you start to question those things when you don't get those
33:07
results that you want to or start hearing the noise going
33:10
around from the outside coming in.
33:12
And I think that working with him is something that's
33:15
definitely even now, I feel like started to help my confidence.
33:19
So when the SRX series started this year, Don Hawk called me.
33:45
I don't like that. There was an IndyCar driver that
33:28
got a ride real quick and they needed a driver, so they called
33:31
me up. So I came to the Stafford two
33:34
race and I saw you standing by yourself and I didn't like that.
33:41
So I come over to. Do the do the boys sometime.
33:51
Did they not talk to you or what's that?
33:53
What's that deal? I don't hang out with you.
33:55
I don't know. So like the soccer and maybe
33:59
it's changed a lot back from like when you've raised versus
34:02
like how it is now. But no drivers like everyone.
34:07
Well a few people have their low like clicks of like two to four
34:10
people, but like no drivers really hang out or anything like
34:15
pre race or talk to each other. A whole lot.
34:18
There is a few that do, but like I don't feel like I'm a part of
34:22
those groups. Well I I noticed that I come up
34:25
and said something to you and then I was it wasn't 30 minutes
34:29
later someone, one of my friends you know said yeah, I felt bad
34:33
for Haley too. She kind of sitting there by
34:35
herself but it but times have changed because it was never
34:40
that way. I mean Rusty Rusty Wallace, Dale
34:42
Earnhardt senior, they were friends.
34:44
I mean they went on the, you know, they went, you know, on
34:47
yachts together and you know Mark Martin and Ernie Irvin, you
34:51
know, staying at each other's houses and you know they some of
34:55
they could separate that, you know.
34:57
Yeah, I feel like people struggle to separate that now.
35:00
I think competition. And remember, this is a
35:03
conversation. I think what I've noticed is
35:08
everything is so hardcore now. You know, back in our day you
35:12
got one sponsor and that's all you needed for the whole year.
35:15
And I always got all my own sponsors and that's what I was.
35:19
I was popular for running my mouth, selling product and doing
35:23
good on the racetrack. But now I agree with you kind of
35:28
got me thinking that it takes 68 sponsors a year.
35:33
Everything's so damn expensive and everybody's got a pin up
35:37
there butt and you know everybody's afraid you're going
35:40
to get them. Well, that that that bums me out
35:44
a little bit. Nobody talks to each other
35:47
because I I noticed that and and and yeah, that.
35:51
That's that's a bitch. I don't like that.
35:53
Yeah, I don't either. It's kind of weird like you
35:55
think with like we're all, a lot of us are the same age.
35:59
Like you would think we all live in the same town, towns that are
36:04
close to each other. Like, you would think that like
36:06
more drivers would kind of like and maybe it's different once
36:09
you go up the ranks a little bit.
36:10
I don't know. And so, like, I don't know how
36:12
it is Xfinity your Cup, but like the truck stuff, like it's
36:15
harsh. Like it's no one says, like a
36:18
lot of times I feel like I make people uncomfortable.
36:21
Because I'm the driver that like, if another driver walks by
36:24
me, I'll say hi and like, I feel like they get uncomfortable.
36:26
Like, why are you talking to me? Type deal.
36:29
I'm like, sorry, just trying to be nice.
36:32
Do you think they're afraid to talk to you because they might
36:37
have a girlfriend or a wife and they feel like, oh, I'm talking
36:40
to a girl, my wife's going to jump my ass?
36:43
I don't think so, because like. You know, just I just, it's not
36:46
even talk to me. Like I just go.
36:48
I just say hi as I'm walking down.
36:51
I'm not even trying to start a conversation.
36:53
I just try and be nice. I say hi to everybody.
36:55
I always ask how everybody is like and I don't know, I see it.
36:59
I see it with other drivers though, like guy to guy.
37:01
I do see it a lot with that too. So that's what makes me believe
37:04
it's not just because I'm a girl type deal.
37:06
Yeah. Well, you know, I do want to say
37:08
this, The Truck Series is hard because they got a lot of side
37:13
force, a lot of drag. You're in the throttle 99% of
37:18
the time. If you can't let out of the I,
37:22
I, I want you to get to the Xfinity Series because although
37:26
you, you use a lot of throttle, there's times you can, you know,
37:30
roll up off the throttle. So those those trucks are son of
37:34
a booger. Yeah, they're handful.
37:36
They are a handful. And I think with the Truck
37:39
Series. Something that has hurt me so
37:42
much, like I am a I feel like every driver is different.
37:45
What works, what every driver's strengths and weaknesses are
37:48
different. What they need to succeed is
37:51
different. And I think for me what I need
37:54
to most the time be fast somewhere.
37:56
Like even if I'm behind a little bit, I know I can get to the
38:00
pace that I need to be at. Might take a few laps or so.
38:03
I know I can get there, but practice like I went into the
38:08
Truck Series. With no practice whatsoever, it
38:12
my first year I was going to the virus, you guys.
38:16
This either and a lot of people forget that.
38:18
So like my first year I feel like was almost a wash because.
38:22
I was going to all these new tracks with not one lap on the
38:24
track. Never qualify there.
38:26
I'm trying to figure out how to drive this damn truck that is
38:29
unstable as hell whenever you get behind someone wide open.
38:33
Just my God. Yeah, you're like wide open and
38:36
then I'm like, oh, I'm significantly fasten, this guy.
38:38
I'm about 10 truck legs back. All of a sudden you get 5 and
38:41
you're Oh my gosh, I'm so free. I wasn't this before.
38:44
I'm super tight and so. It's like it was so hard for me
38:48
and it's still, I still feel like I have a challenge with it.
38:51
But that first year I had no practice, no qualifying, never
38:54
figured out what the limit of the truck was.
38:56
I feel like ever, because I was constantly in dirty air,
38:59
constantly in traffic. And then going in the second
39:02
year, it's like, OK, you'll get 15 minutes, 20 minutes of
39:06
practice, which that's not enough time to mock up, not
39:09
enough time to do any of that. So we go out there and you're
39:12
expected to fire off initially on pace.
39:15
I'm like Okay, well, I have never drove this.
39:19
Who here is this my second year And I know, I know.
39:23
Why aren't you top of the floor? Why don't you expect to go out
39:27
there and you're like Okay. I've never qualified here so I
39:30
don't know what the limit of this truck is when we go out on
39:32
brand new tires, not in traffic type deal and you're expected to
39:36
go qualify good or go be top of the board and practice and like.
39:40
I feel like that was something I struggled with so much.
39:42
And so I'm trying to build this notebook, a 15 to 25 minutes of
39:47
practice, like in trying to get clean air and qualifying, like
39:51
I'm taking notes. I'm like, I don't think I hit
39:53
the limit of the truck here. It's my first time qualifying
39:56
here, so I don't know. And then there's a tracks like.
39:59
Quite a few. I know quite a few tracks got
40:00
rained out practice and qualifying my second year
40:03
because I have a bunch of blank races for that category.
40:07
So I'm I'm going my third year into this going, I still don't
40:10
know the limit of Detroit here at this place.
40:13
You know, Jeff Gordon and myself and Bobby Lobani, we we came
40:19
into the Cup Series together. We were three rookies and as
40:23
time went on, one thing that I learned about Jeff Gordon was
40:28
that Jeff grew up as a as a big horsepower driver.
40:31
He grew up in open wheel midgets, then the big Sprint
40:34
cars. But the moral of the story is
40:36
this. When he ran the the IROC series,
40:42
low horsepower, he didn't show up very good.
40:46
I've always thought that Jeff was a high horsepower driver,
40:50
very good with throttle control. I just want to let you know also
40:55
that that Jimmy Johnson barely won one Xfinity race at Chicago
41:03
and then went to the Cup Series. So it it's it's a total false
41:08
statement that you have to be good in trucks before you go to
41:13
the Xfinity Series. There's 20 examples out there.
41:17
I just wanted to tell you that. So I want to see you get to the
41:21
Xfinity Series. It's a complete listen, I'm the
41:23
mayor. I ran the most races in that
41:26
series to this day. I got the most starts.
41:29
Oh yeah, 544 Xfinity starts. Yeah.
41:34
So you know, the the Truck Series is is just balls of the
41:40
wall never went off the gas. It's, you know, all right.
41:48
So we're going to, we're going to start slowing down here a
41:50
little bit. I roughed you up enough out of
41:54
everything you drove, out of everything you drove, what?
41:57
What's the most fun now? I ask everybody this question,
42:01
What's the most fun vehicle that any even could be even be your
42:06
life? I think, I think it's a vehicle
42:11
combo. Of like the track you go to
42:15
because like, I really, really enjoyed driving the Xfinity car.
42:19
Like it was almost like a breath of fresh air at Vegas.
42:23
But also I love mile and a half racing.
42:25
And so that's something that's like and I always tend to do a
42:28
little better on mile and a half, but that's something to
42:31
where I'm like okay, maybe I just really like this Xfinity
42:34
car because I was on a mile and a half.
42:36
But no, I just like that was a lot of fun.
42:42
Man that Sr. the SRX car, Eldora.
42:44
It was hard to be. It's hard to be like it's man,
42:48
it was so much fun like it was. I did not expect it.
42:51
I watched the race back, did some homework beforehand that
42:53
race that we went to out Eldora. I played a lot on the simulator
42:57
and I'm like, it's not going to get slicked off in the middle
43:00
like it would like a dirt light mall race or Sprint car race.
43:02
I was like it because of what it was the year previous, the
43:06
cushion and like there was still a lot of moisture, I would say.
43:09
Two lanes down from the wall. So I was like, it's not gonna be
43:12
necessary to run that high or anything to make speed.
43:15
And so then we went there and then all of a sudden cushion's
43:18
blown up. Cushion's blown up, keeps
43:19
getting a little higher, a little higher.
43:21
And I'm like, damn, we are gonna be on the fence.
43:23
And I'm like, it's gonna be sick, kid, you're gonna race.
43:27
I like you. Yeah.
43:29
So when we. We went there and all of a
43:32
sudden that started happening. I saw Tony here in the top and
43:35
the bottom never got worked in and I expected.
43:38
I practiced on the simulator, slow rolling the bottom, kind of
43:41
staying where the moisture was in the straightaway's corners
43:43
because I saw man, what's his name, he raced the SRX race
43:48
there at outdoor previously he finished.
43:51
I think second to Tony. His name starts to see.
43:56
I forget it. Is he a dirt racer?
43:59
I guess he. He does dirt and he does, I
44:02
think. Also pavement midgets or Sprint
44:04
cars. Hell, I don't know.
44:08
I don't remember. I don't remember, but I remember
44:10
seeing him slow roll the bottom side probably.
44:12
Yeah, yeah. And so.
44:15
And I practiced on the simulator and then all sudden we were
44:17
ripping the top. I was like, this is probably the
44:19
coolest thing I've ever done. And it looks cool too.
44:21
It's hard to make stock cars look cool sometimes.
44:24
Like. I feel like they look so glued
44:26
to the track a lot of times. And even the dirt racing, like
44:29
when you go bristle dirt. We went to Knoxville in the
44:31
Truck Series like it didn't look that fast.
44:33
Like you're so used to these badass dirt cars that like,
44:37
stuck in a Knoxville. Uh, huh.
44:38
Yeah, yeah. I ran second Knoxville.
44:40
But like it kind of You're slow rolling the bottom.
44:42
Yeah. When you're ripping the boards,
44:43
it's totally different story and you and you never what what I
44:47
was impressed with at the SRX race you and you never allowed
44:51
the front end to push on entry. You know Tony was dead sideways
44:55
all night long because he'll usually drive a little straight.
44:59
But yeah, so SRX race you like that car.
45:02
And I really enjoyed that. Like, I don't know if it's just
45:04
because it's the latest thing in my mind, but that was so much
45:07
fun at Aldora. What are your thoughts right now
45:13
on and and I ask everybody this, but you're awfully young so I
45:17
don't know how you can answer this but I'll give it a go.
45:20
What what are your thoughts on the sport of NASCAR when you
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look at it, you know, the Cup Series, the next Gen. the talk
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of going international, you know the racing through the streets
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of Chicago. I find you wise.
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So what do what do you think of where NASCAR is going in general
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all three series? I think I don't know where
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they're trying to go, so it's hard to say on that side.
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As for the Chicago race, it, and this is a conversation I've had
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with a few people, yes, the views are going to be good.
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How good were the views of the initial Bristol dirt race?
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They were great. You're bringing NASCAR Cup cars
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are going on dirt. That's never happened before.
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Yeah, the views are going to be great.
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And same thing with Chicago. You're bringing the first ever
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St. course to NASCAR views are going to be great.
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It doesn't mean they're always going to be great though.
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You see the Bristol dirt views they've gone down and so it
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becomes a little less appealing and and I think it's it's hard
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to say because I don't know exactly where they're going but
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like there's plenty of badass Rd. courses that we can go to
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like a bunch of them And so like Chicago I think it was cool like
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as a one off deal. But like, I don't think there
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needs to be like three or four of them on the schedule.
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I think there's plenty of great Rd. courses to go to.
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As it is, I think 1 is fine. I'm.
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I'd be totally okay with that shoot, man.
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If I make it couple, I'll be happy with that and it's okay
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cuz we're big fans of the sport. You can talk about any division
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you want, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, on NASCAR.
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And like, I don't ever want to be hating on NASCAR anything
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like that. Because, like, I come home after
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a truck race and like, I sit on the couch and I watch the
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expanding race. I watch the full Cup race
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because I enjoy it. Like, because I truly love it.
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You're a racer. I'm a part of it.
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Yeah, I watch. I swear I have more
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subscriptions to Dirt Vision, Flow Race and Dirt Catch You I I
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put it on Chromecast on my big town.
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Yeah, we have the same thing, different.
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The Dirty series, I'm like, man, we probably spent like 500,000
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bucks a month and just subscriptions to watch dirt
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racing every night. Like that's a lot.
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And you learn a lot. Yeah, yeah.
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Learning tool. But I enjoy it.
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I love it. Like that's all I watch.
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We don't watch TV shows, we don't watch movies.
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We watch dirt racing every single night.
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And so, like, I just love racing.
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But As for where it's headed international, I, I don't know.
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I've never raced international before.
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It's and I feel like that would be very, it'd be a lot like a
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lot, which it'd be a lot of work, a lot of money.
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And I think the biggest hurdle with the sport right now is the
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money coming in versus the money going out is you can't just be
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relying on these big investors in a team of people with money
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partnering in the teams to offset the cost of what's not
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coming in for sponsor dollars. And so I think it's making the
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appeal come back to where sponsors do want to be a part of
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it, but you have to in order to do that, it comes with eyes, it
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comes with viewership. And so I think there is, there's
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a lot that would have to get sorted to bring it back to what
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it was back in the day. And times have changed.
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Social media has gotten popular, and now there's a high demand
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for social media views and stuff, even from my side of
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things. And so that's how a lot of times
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I'm selling sponsors and I'm so thankful that the times have
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changed because I probably wouldn't be racing a few years
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ago if I was trying to make it in those sorts of things because
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I didn't have social media to utilize to bring sponsors in.
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Haley, I want to tell you something straight up and if
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people made it this far in this awesome conversation you know we
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clip it up and put it on YouTube.
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But I'll, I'll share with you and I tell some of my close
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friends my my sponsors they don't care about my race cars
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they they want my social media and and and I try to tell the
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kids that are shy, they hey Wallace, you got all that NASCAR
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money. I'm like you dumbass.
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You know I. Love.
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When people say you have NASCAR money, you're gone.
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No, but, but, So let's. This could be a 5 minute
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conversation, 2 minute conversation, but we're at the
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end now. So YouTube.
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Millions and millions of views. Your family is so, so famous for
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YouTube. When, when YouTube or just
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social media. Because I I've watched you kids,
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your brothers, you, your dad, your mom, you all are all in and
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you understand. And I understand the power of
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it. And it's what has kept my career
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going. And you just referenced it about
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you. That's.
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Why I have a career right now. You got a great career.
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When was the first time did your mom or dad sit you down and
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said, hey, this YouTube thing, at what age do you remember
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this, this sensation? You know of YouTube and and
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their sponsors like it. What age were you?
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Do you remember the talk your family had with you?
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We need content. My dad was always about.
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Making content as in like he was always the he always put on a
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really good act When X Games came around they would film
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skits like dirt bikes, skits, crew of guys and post it on
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YouTube and stuff. And I'm talking like OG YouTube
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days 10. 15 years ago he got it early.
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Early, yeah. And so he was already kind of
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doing that stuff and he loved doing it.
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He really, he enjoys dressing up and like outfits and doing
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skits, like back in the day. And they were super funny like
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him and his buddies with film stuff for YouTube and that's
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back when like. I feel like those are kind of
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popular. And so it was he's always doing
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crazy stuff and so I kind of just like learned from him And
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then he started Instagram. Like I still remember to this
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day when one of my aunts came over and was talking about
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Instagram for the first time. Like I was little and I don't
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even know how I remember but I remember us all us making an
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account and I just got an iPhone for the first time and.
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My family had just switched from Blackberries to iPhones, the
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legendary BlackBerry. And I remember they came over
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and we all download Instagram and stuff and we just kind of
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started doing it from there. My dad started like clipping up
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his like or putting pictures of his dirt bike on there.
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And he was so new. Everything was so new back then.
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And he was already doing Facebook.
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So he had a big Facebook following.
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My mom is helping him run that, but like he never really took it
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super serious because. YouTube for him back then didn't
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make money and neither did Instagram or neither did
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Facebook. And so it was more just a way to
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get views and then people would sponsor you for who you are and
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then you go do what you do. And so now it's transitioned
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into OK, YouTube pays pretty good money.
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Monetization money is pretty, it's better than any other
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platform. And Instagram doesn't pay.
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Facebook pays a little bit. TikTok pays a little bit.
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And so all these platforms now are.
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Some of them are monetizing, some of them aren't.
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But the real money is in selling ads for them.
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So I have a separate manager who just separately all away from
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racing and like two different businesses, sells my ads for
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YouTube. He calls me, says hey, I got a
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deal from so and so it's for this much money. 62nd ad, I'll
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give you the read and the product will be there tomorrow.
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And I go, OK, no problem. And I do.
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It takes me an hour, 30 minutes, an hour to film.
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Knock it out. And that's why I make my money
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on YouTube. And so the racing stuff, the
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money I bring in for racing, that goes right back out, it's
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sponsor money to pay for racing. And I live off that money on
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YouTube ads and those sorts of things.
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And so a lot of the times, like, I try to keep both separate
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because I never want to have to touch my racing money to survive
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and that that money is going directly back in.
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So we go the race track. Yeah, this is a great story.
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So for all the races are watching people say Wallace, you
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got that NASCAR money. That's the reason you run the
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you win those dirt races. I said no, you do money.
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I think about it and I I have. I put 100% of my effort into
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racing. I always make sure all my racing
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obligations are done before I do anything.
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That is my goal. I always make sure I'm done
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watching footage, doing the simulator stuff.
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And I figured out a good balance of fitting in the social media
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side of things where we just. My boyfriend naturally films all
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the races and I just do my normal thing.
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I don't even it's become so normal for me.
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But when we're back at home filming those ad type deals,
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that happens after all my racing obligations are done, after all
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the meetings, the Zoom calls, the the posts for this sponsor,
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the doing this conference, whatever it is, all that
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happens, preparing for races and all that happens after.
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And I figured out a good way to fit that in.
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But if I I. I could be probably making some
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decent chunk of money if I was putting my full effort into
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YouTube, but I'm not because I want to be a racer.
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That's what I love to do, That's what I want to do, and that's
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where I want my career to be. The YouTube side of things that
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just it just helps. Haley, Listen, I I already knew
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it. One of the reasons I wanted to
54:56
have a conversation with you is because I feel like you're rare.
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You, you you do got it going on. I hope that everybody watches
55:04
this, realizes how wise you are and you understand a lot.
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You know, you're not just a pretty girl trying to run a race
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car. I have three daughters.
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I love them with my life and I see what you're doing is not
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easy. You know, race is not easy for
55:23
the boys I want. I want to thank you so much for
55:28
coming on Kenny conversation. Well, thank you.
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I appreciate it and you get to that Xfinity Series.
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I see what's up. Everybody follows everybody in
55:42
that we all we all the whole garage area has peripheral
55:46
vision. Whether you want to know about
55:49
somebody's career or not, you're going to know because you got
55:51
everybody sees what's up So what do good and remember everybody
55:56
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And Haley, I guess I'm going to see you at Lucas Oil Speedway.
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Yeah, I'll see you in a few days.
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I'm going to be racing you, girl.
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We'll have fun. We'll have fun.
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Thank you, Haley. No, thank you.
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I appreciate it.