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Border Agent Reveals SHOCKING Data: Terrorists Flooding US, Deadly Attacks May Be Imminent · Man in America Podcast

• 0:28
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. I'm sure that you've been watching closely what's happening on our southern border. And if you're anything like me, you're probably really concerned about that. Now I've had a lot of guests on to talk about this this topic, including recently Ann Vandersteel that just got back from a a long tour down there with Michael Yon as part of Operation Burning Edge.
• 0:54
  But my guest today that's joining, I think, brings a perspective and data that I haven't come across yet, and it's extremely important. So his name is JJ Carroll. And he was a border agent. And he rose up to being, I think, a deputy agent for about twenty four years. And what he's seen under Joe Biden as opposed to Trump and his previous career is absolutely shocking.
• 1:26
  Now, this interview, I will ask you ahead of time. This is an interview that's very, very important to share with people. Because what JJ is going to highlight is a an extremely real threat to us here on American soil. And look, I don't want to be the fearmonger. I don't want to be the person saying, look, bad things are going to happen.
• 1:49
  But I also don't want to be burying my head in the sand. Want to be looking at these signs. I want to be interviewing experts like the person that you know, JJ today, and have them give us their opinion on what they're seeing unfold because I'll just I'll give you one quick fact. Okay. So what we're gonna be talking about something here called a SIA, a special interest alien, which really what it means is it's a it's an a person that's coming into our country as an alien that it's from either a terrorist country or a terrorist backed organization.
• 2:22
  Right? So they're they're flagged. What JJ has told us, what he'll get into in the interview, is that his entire career, he on a he count on two hands the amount of SIAs that he came across and then they were almost always sent back deported. If he would have released one, as you'll hear him talk about, he would have had his badge taken away, his gun back taken away. What he's telling us, and this is why this interview is so critical, is that under Biden, there's hundreds of thousands of these SIAs being allowed to walk right into our country.
• 2:59
  Some of them known terrorists. And after what we just witnessed with Israel, where known terrorists walked, you know, basically are paraglided into a country, and you could argue and say that they were allowed to from the from the government, just like our government's allowing them to walk in. We saw what happens when terror cells come in and create disruptions and start slaughtering the citizens. And it's JJ's opinion and his grave concern that that is what is next here in America. That will be the next stage of things, especially as we're heading into 2024.
• 3:38
  So I'll tell you again, if there's one video that you've that you will share with people, this is it because we have to have more Americans understand the real threat that we're facing here. There's too many of us that are just living in this bubble of normalcy bias and believing that because America has always been so great that we're too great to fall, that an enemy would never attack us on American soil. Well, the information that he provides, especially as he gets into the kinds of people that he's seeing coming across the border, is very shocking. Now I'll tell you though, that it's really important that we're able to process this information and not live in a state of fear. And that's the challenge.
• 4:20
  The challenge is looking at the darkness yet not being afraid of the darkness. So just keep that in mind. It's important to get this information, but we have to be able to not live in a state of fear, which I think that for me, well, that fear comes from faith ultimately. But also it comes from being prepared. And this is exactly what I've talked about folks and the importance of being prepared.
• 4:39
  So folks, please enjoy this interview with JJ Carroll. So JJ, thank you so much for being here today. It's an honor to have you on the show.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm very excited to talk about this subject because I think it is the greatest threat to our republic. Not the economy, not Russia, not China, not the the war in Israel. I believe it's the open borders, unfettered illegal immigration to our nation.
• 5:09
  Seth Holehouse: I honestly in in terms of the immediate threats, I absolutely agree with you. And so I I just a little background of how you end up on on my show today. So I heard your interview with Naomi Wolf recently, and then listened to some of your interviews with Brian O'Shea, who's also, you know, been a guest here as well. And with Naomi's interview in particular, we looked at the just the data of the SIAs, which I'll let you explain what that means. It was alarming.
• 5:39
  And I've had a lot of guests on talking about the Southern Border and talking about the CCP's roles with the cartels and everything going into there. But something about your interview was just shocking to me. So I know that you were a a border agent, a senior border agent. You spent twenty twenty four years down there. Right?
• 5:59
  Do want give us just a quick background of your experience and then we'll dive into just more of the immediate threats?
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: Sure. I I joined the Border Patrol in 1997, and it was one of the most proudest moments of my life. I went down my first duty station was Imperial Beach Station, which is the southwestern most point in The United States, Six miles to the Santa Cedar Port of entry. And it's at that time, it was the most violent area of the border. I cut my teeth and made all my reputation down there for ten years.
• 6:30
  And I picked up my supervisor promotion while in Imperial Beach. I ran task force units like the ATV unit, myself and 10 guys that I ran. We were the fast mobile response team. We were assaulted every day fist fights, rocks, bricks thrown at us shot at barbed wire, concertina wire and regular wire pulled across the border fence to both border fences try to decapitate us as we rode our scoops, 50 miles an hour chasing people. It was the most exhilarating time of my life.
• 7:09
  Loved every second as frustrating as insane, and violent and injury prone everybody got it was I would do it all over again. I took a promotion up to Southern California in Orange County. And I created a very large task force called Coastal Border Enforcement Team, CBET for short. And we chased all the open bow pongas that were bringing in anywhere from 20 to 35 individuals on a human smoking load. Then ultimately El Chapo Guzman, the notorious narco king took over all of the traffic routes and started bringing narcotics.
• 7:52
  So we came into a narcotic maritime team where we weren't out on water, we were on the shoreline and we would through surveillance and through techniques, were able to determine where our pongos would land, boats, and we would arrest that. And I take great pride in that because one of my agents, all the all the boats that we arrested, thousands and thousands of narcotics, Thousands of people we arrested felony arrest. It was all El Chapo Guzman Sinaloa cartel loads. And one of my guys actually went and testified against El Chapo Guzman and helped secure a conviction. So it's a huge deal for me.
• 8:30
  About 50 to 60 guys on my unit. It was challenging and awesome. And then I took promotions into the interior 45 miles north from the border and picked up my my last motion was deputy patrol agent in charge of a station in San Diego sector. And why I believe that I believe I'm an expert on this because I lived it. I'm not an academic guy, in the sense of I'm just going to talk to you about theoreticals.
• 9:01
  I'm going to talk to you about what it's like to be down the border, how the policies are being implemented on the poll on the border. And then I'm going to give you a 30,000 foot view of where I was as a senior leader and explaining what these policies and laws really should, how they should be enforced, and how my York is through Biden have bastardized everything on the in immigration law. Nothing that I saw. I've only been on war patrol two years. Everything that I did in my career, they're doing a 80 degrees difference.
• 9:35
  It's unlawful. It's unconstitutional. And we have a giant problem within the border patrol because a lot of border patrol agents believe that they're betraying their oath that they gave. So that's a little bit about where I came from and how I see things through my perspective of my lens.
• 9:54
  Seth Holehouse: Which is which is really helpful, especially in framing this discussion. And I'll just add a little bit of frame myself is that, you know, this discussion obviously is we're gonna be touching on the border, but it's not just a general thing of okay, look, this is how many people are coming across the border. This is the bigger picture and how it's gonna affect the the, you know, the demographics of America in ten years. This is a much more pointed discussion saying, okay, look what has happened in Israel when terror cells were allowed or came across, that's a different discussion, the border into Israel and attacked civilians and how what you're seeing being set up in America, which you believe is the next step is something like that on a much larger scale. And so I wanna get into how this really obviously, hear you speak about that.
• 10:40
  But then let let's start with the SIAs or special interest aliens and the numbers and data on that. And so if you can explain what an SIA is, to me, that was the the main one of the main points in your interview with Naomi that made this giant red alarm start going off in my mind is hearing about the SIA. So I'll hand it back over to you.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: Okay. So SIA stands for special interest aliens. Okay. And you're gonna hear DHS really kind to soft pedal this. Okay.
• 11:13
  But what an SIA special interest alien is is somebody that's trapped coming from a terrorist nation, or traveling through a terrorist nation, that that nation is a terrorist nation for houses, terrorist organizations. And that individual could be just from a terrorist nation, or they could be a very low level part of a terrorist organization, or top level. Just two, three weeks ago, my guy sent me a picture of a guy from my old station that they arrested. He was the head ISIS recruiter. The head ISIS recruiter.
• 11:49
  Let me say that again. That crossed three weeks ago and just sat down in a field in San Diego and just said come arrest me. Okay. So when you talk about special interest aliens, love this quote. I don't have it up and I apologize, but I'll paraphrase very close to it.
• 12:05
  Mark Morgan under President Trump was the Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection. He was a former high level FBI agent and he came over and ran ICE and the Border Patrol. And they quoted him saying they asked him, DHS is saying, well, special interest aliens aren't bad. This is the guy that ran it, right? This is the guy that was in the weeds, a higher level guy.
• 12:30
  And he said, there is important because they're freaking special interest aliens because they came from terrorist nations, and they're been sponsored and associated with terrorists. So whenever you hear DHS try to downplay it, know they're lying to Let me give you an example of how insane this is. I'm gonna look at I have some numbers written down because I knew we talked about it. I want to get exact numbers. And this is from DHS.
• 13:00
  This is not my configurations. And I want to put this caveat out there that I do not trust DHS numbers, CBP numbers. In fact, just a side note, center for immigration studies, CIS dot org about a month ago, we've had a FOIA for many, many months and it came out and DHS had to admit that they hid, hid the number of people that were coming through c v p one app into the airports. And how many did they hide? They hid over 221,000.
• 13:32
  Two hundred and 20 one thousand people that they did not bet, and they allowed to fly into America and then just walk through our airports. Okay. 221,000. So if they're lying about that, how much more are they lying about? So back to Specialist Dressed Aliens under the CBP one app.
• 13:48
  That's the app that they created it that goes on your iPhone if you can believe that. And I am from Ubekistan. And I can go on an app and apply for a silent and then they'll approve it. You would think I'm making it. Sometimes I say this out loud and I pause because it is sounds so insane to me.
• 14:11
  And I'm thinking people that are listening to me, they must think that I'm the biggest liar, but this is what's happening. Right? It it's it's Orwellian. So homeland.health.gov came out yesterday and said 278,431 people went through the c v p one app in 2023. I believe that number is grossly low, but let's just go with it.
• 14:36
  They found out that ninety five percent were approved. Ninety five percent. Let me just tell you who came through. 16 Iranians that were approved. 32 Chinese, two hundred 20 nine Afghans, 18 hundred 60 six people from Uzbekistan.
• 14:53
  Uzbekistan had 30,000 people arrested and released this year, and almost 20,000 Russians came through CVP one app. I'm not talking about the ones that came across the border and gave up, but then were released. I'm just talking to the CVP one app. Preliminary numbers today. So F federal fiscal, federal fiscal years go from October 1 to September 30.
• 15:17
  So we just started FY24. In three weeks, three weeks, we have arrested 94 people from Syria, Fifty Five people from Iran, Two from Yemen, Four from from Iraq, and four from Lebanon that we know about. This is just preliminary numbers. So we have essentially hundreds of thousands of special interest aliens that have come into our country. Let me give you let me give you DHS data.
• 15:47
  Special interest aliens in f y twenty twenty two was 25,000. F y 20 20 three was 80,000. 80 thousand. If you go back further and you go to 2021, it goes down to 3,000. You go to 2020, we're in less than 2,000.
• 16:10
  You have brought in in two years. That is known, not 80% of the border at any given time. And it's gonna be hard for people to understand. Hundreds and hundreds of miles of the 2,000 miles southern border, there's not one single border patrol agent patrolling that. Not one.
• 16:30
  It's it's completely wide open. Okay? So people are just pouring through by the millions annually. So a 5,000 special interest aliens came into America, and then they were released. Now let me explain to you how absurd this is.
• 16:46
  Because people, they go, well, especially they make it they make the chaos normal. Okay? In my twenty four year career
• 16:54
  Seth Holehouse: Kind of jumping in and
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: say this Yes. Is
• 16:56
  Seth Holehouse: in your career, if you arrested someone from Iran, for instance, or from Afghanistan, how would you handle that? Would you just say, okay. Well, I rest you now. You you can go on. Or and maybe that's what you're gonna actually explain now, but that's
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Yes. I was gonna I was gonna do that. Please interrupt me whenever because I'll just the the illegal immigration and, I believe, treason within our government to change America is so layered, so complex, and it is so wide and deep. It's hard to get it all in under a time. But let me let me explain to you 80,000 special interest aliens in one year.
• 17:39
  In twenty twenty four years in United States border patrol, I was talking to somebody the other day, one of my guys who were calculating, estimate how many people we arrest. I directly or indirectly as a frontline agent, a supervisor, and then a high level manager where I had hundreds of people under me, it was estimate low level 10,000 people. Okay. Let's just use 10,000 number. I think it's higher than more had contact with.
• 18:05
  I can remember less than five special interest aliens in my total career. Five. Now let me explain to you what happens when we get a special interest alien is arrested in the field and brought to the station. Everything in that station comes to a screeching halt because I know I have a high profile illegal alien in my custody that I believe is known to have terrorist ties. Everything stops.
• 18:32
  I begin to I I'm a supervisor. I'm a manager. I'm telling my agent I want that report in ASAP, and I need it extremely, extremely detail. I'm telling the supervisors, I need every everything you've got, pocket trash, everything. I call JTTF, Joint Terrorism Task Force.
• 18:50
  They come in, it's FBI, it's everybody, Border Patrol, FBI, DEH, DEA, everybody comes in. Right? They thoroughly debrief this individual, interrogate it. If they find out that individuals are terrorists, they just take my data and my report and they're gone. And I don't know what they do with them.
• 19:11
  I don't care. It's not part of my job. Okay. Done. Let's say they can't make that connection of Mohammed Mohammed from Sudan is we know it's him, I can't determine he's actually a terrorist.
• 19:26
  So I'm gonna turn it back over to you, JJ. Okay. Sounds good. I set them up for deportation, wrap it up nice and neat. I make sure it gets to ICE.
• 19:35
  I'm already on the phone with ICE since I'm sending you a special interest alien. +1 04, I got it. They get a plane and they fly him back to Sudan. Never, never in my wildest, craziest life would I ever release that person into America. If I would release that person into America, I would immediately be suspended.
• 19:58
  They would take my gun and my badge and put me on the rubber gun squad. And then I would be thoroughly interrogated as to why, why would you do something? Are you connected? Are you compromised? For one, none of those people are ever to be released, ever.
• 20:17
  And now we're releasing all of them. 80,000. Can you wrap your brain around 80,000 special interest daily? I just moved from Rapid City, South Dakota. I went there for two years with my wife and my son.
• 20:30
  That's larger than Rapid City, South Dakota. That's everybody living there plus about 10,000 people. And we just allowed that in in one year. What I'm telling you is we are in such peril, and we are so vulnerable as a nation that thirty five months ago before Joe Biden took office, it was unthinkable that you would ever release a a specialist or stalem to now it's commonplace by the hundreds of thousands. And if that doesn't scare you, if that doesn't at least make you ask this simple question, why?
• 21:12
  Why would our federal government do this to us?
• 21:16
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver.
• 21:31
  Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2023, the average family home is just over $400,000.
• 21:48
  So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse the dollar or inflation, this is what it means.
• 22:02
  Now, let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today.
• 22:28
  What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
• 22:50
  It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome.
• 23:30
  It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor. Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine.
• 23:42
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• 24:22
  It it absolutely it doesn't make sense. The only way it would make sense is if you would say that our federal government is being controlled by our enemy. That's the that they're working on behalf of our of our enemy. That's the only way it would possibly make sense.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Well, if I and I'll be I'm I'm if anything, I'm very honest, and I'm very direct, and I I I don't care my whole life. I'm, I'm a big white guy. I was born in Massachusetts, but grew up in the Deep South and my father was a senior service agent. And so I've been called all the file names right in the border patrol, big white guy from, from everyone I rest, you're racist, you're this, you're that. And so it means those, those names mean nothing to me.
• 25:10
  Because I'm none of those things. I'm just a realist. And if you, my true belief, and I've been doing this for twenty four years and then extensively for two years of doing deep dive research for my book and going on interviews, because I never want to, never want to mischaracterize or make a judgment on something that is not founded like truly founded and researched in truth. I believe that we have traders within our own government. The once you get your once you accept the fact that our government, the people in our government want to fundamentally transform America, their words, not mine.
• 25:55
  And they're doing it through illegal immigration through the American immigration system. Once you accept that as truth, everything that we talk about makes complete sense. If you do not believe that and you believe our government at worst is incompetent, this irrational decisions and policy and determinations is so irrational. You it will make you go in circles and spin like a top. But the moment you come to the realization that our own government wants to fundamentally transform America, their words not mine.
• 26:30
  And you look at their actions, it makes sense. All of this makes complete sense. And that's what I push out to my interviews and I talk to people. And I don't care how it makes me sound. I know history will find me to be on the right side.
• 26:43
  I truly do.
• 26:45
  Seth Holehouse: And so the people that you've witnessed coming across, especially these SIAs, Are they women and children? Are they young men? And if they're young men, which I look at the video anybody can look at the videos you see on even Fox News, they're not a bunch of old women and young children. They look like me, and they look like you. Actually, they look like you.
• 27:08
  They don't look like me. They look like people that, you know, could cause serious damage. Are you have you seen any indicators or signs, whether it's are you seeing, you know, consistent tattoos that might show that they're that they're military? Are you seeing consistent haircuts? Are you seeing behavior that would indicate that these aren't just people coming here to work on a strawberry farm in California?
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Right? Well, the first thing is they're all military aged adult males, all of them, 18 to 30, somewhere in there. Okay, very strong. No women, no children, none. Alright, let me give you an example.
• 27:50
  In May, and just so just so we have an understanding, the cartels run everything on the border. Nobody just nobody willy nilly crosses the border. They're told, okay, you can cross now after they pay the fee or make the the site. The cartels actually put bracelets on people. So the other cartels know who owns them and then who owes them money, etcetera.
• 28:12
  So they run everything. Back at my old station, my guys was calling me in April and May. This is just because this was the epicenter of terrorist nations, individual terrorist nations were crossing because a cartel deemed it this is the place that we want to do it. So at any given time during the day, there was 2,000 people between the fences just living there because the border patrol could not have the resources to get all 2,000 in. So they bring 500 in every day and another 500 would systematically cross.
• 28:45
  They were all single adult military age men from the Continent Of Africa and Middle East, all of them. My sources were telling me like I'm sitting here on a computer and I put the individual, put your hands on this, it's called IDEP machine, you put your hands on it and scans your fingerprints and pops up. What kind of criminal history you have and none of them have any criminal history because they never been in America. These are databases that we met and just in America. But 50 of them every twenty four hours for almost two months, we're hitting on terrorist watch list 50.
• 29:19
  Five of them every day were confirmed terrorists. Five. The other 45 were just let go. Okay. So when you ask me, are they middle aged?
• 29:28
  No, they're just males. They're all military age males. Look at all the videos. They're they're indisputable. You just you just look at them come across.
• 29:38
  And you asked me about we're starting to see in here and reports on all the way down in Darien Gap, Michael Young, who's a great investigative reporter, and Vandersteel. I forget the gentleman's name that runs muckraker.com. He's down there a lot. And they they're just giving eyewitness testimony. And Gordon Chang as well, because he's a Chinese expert, is stating that they are seeing Chinese nationals, single adult males, military age, all coming across with the same haircuts, similar clothes, similar unique IDs, and similar tattoos.
• 30:16
  Who in America, what subgroup of Americans have the same haircuts, same clothes, IDs, and tattoos? Those are called soldiers. Now let's look at special interest aliens from China. Okay. In in 2022, we arrested 1,970 I believe Chinese nationals.
• 30:37
  This year, we've arrested in FY 2023. We arrested over 25,000. Okay. This in the first three weeks, not months, the first three weeks in FY twenty four, we're almost at 3,000. Okay.
• 30:53
  So the CCP is pouring their soldiers into America. Look, you don't have to like me. You don't have to like the way I look or the way I speak or whatever. But this is just data. And if you want to get to the point where you're you want to attack the messenger, you got to understand and I say this all the time.
• 31:15
  Said this last night in an interview on on cable TV. I said, if I'm wrong, if I'm wrong about all this, then explain to me what's going on. We all agree this data, this data is coming from our own government. I don't trust it. They've downplayed it.
• 31:34
  Just off their numbers is shockingly and damning. So if I'm not right, and I pray to God I'm not actually, but I believe I am. If I'm not right, then tell me what the hell is going on. Why is our government doing this? And if we all agree that this data is right, how do you sit there as an American and think that the outcome, even the best case situation outcome is going to be pain and suffering.
• 32:04
  And if you can't see that, you are just ignorant or willfully in denial. It's just really is that simple. But I I ask you. You hear what I say. The data is there.
• 32:17
  Do you dispute the fact that this could happen to America? We just saw it in Israel. It's our ally. Just saw the parades throughout the major cities in America, all the way down the Deep South in Texas. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Palestinian supporters waving their flags and their jihad flags and their terrorist flags.
• 32:43
  Not in Lebanon, not in in Gaza, in Austin, Texas, in Washington DC, New York. So when you tell me, well, I don't know. That just sounds conspiratorial. I don't know what to tell you. Is just what I know from experience, from what my agents are telling me in the field, and what rational, intelligent adult final solutions would be.
• 33:14
  I don't see any other solution. I don't see another outcome except pain and destruction. I don't.
• 33:22
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I have a quick message for you. Thank you so much for watching listening to this interview. I have one small request. If you're enjoying what you're listening to, could you please share this interview with one person, just one person, because of censorship and shadow banning, it's so hard to get this content out to more people.
• 33:40
  And the only way we can really do it is when you help by sharing it. So if you like what you're listening to, hit pause, share it with one person. It helps so much. Thank you so much. And so looking at the the outcome of this, what you've done is you've painted this very disturbing picture of soldiers, terrorists coming across our our borders.
• 34:06
  I would imagine that these are people that are highly trained. They're probably highly trained in operations and small teams that disrupt whether it's power grid, whether it's transportation, airports, whatever it is. So do you think as we're heading into 2024, which regardless of what your political ideals are, nowadays, election years are the years that the entire country descends into madness because it opens up all kinds of possibilities for whatever the outcomes of that election are without getting into the details of that. So as we're entering into 2024, do you think that these individuals will be activated in some way? What are the what is the likelihood of that happening?
• 34:51
  And what do you think that they'll do? What will it look like?
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay. I'm not an expert on on domestic terror domestic meaning they're already here, terrorism. I just know what has what the precursors are and that they're already here. I just read an article today where Donald Trump and I'll be very honest.
• 35:17
  I'm a big Donald Trump guy because he's the first president actually successful on the border. And he treated us with respect. However, that being said, everyone is is not parodying what I'm saying, but they're saying what I'm saying, that they're here. Okay? They're here.
• 35:35
  My co host on Mostly Peaceful is Brian O'Shea, former, intelligence analyst, investigative journalist, very, very smart. I'm learning about him because we just started this podcast and I'm learning about him and I'm shocked at what he can discover through his systems, in within minutes. And he and I had this discussion actually last night. And he says, I think that there will be some kind of incident that will cause the government to just shut down and say, can't have elections. Look at look.
• 36:13
  We have people bombing stuff all over. We can't have elections. What about the poor people that are gonna go to the ballot box? You can't. Oh, we're gonna have to all mail in ballots now.
• 36:23
  Right? One thing that one thing that Brian said that made sense to me because I was talking to him on one of our podcasts. I said, Do you understand Brian, that we have battalions of foreign national soldiers and terrorists in America? And he he said, Yes, I do know that. But it will not be conventional, like, we're going to activate 3,000 people, and they're going to go around shooting killing, because it won't happen like that.
• 36:54
  And what he said made complete sense, and this is what he said. He says, you're going to have very small units, You're going to have a leader and about 10 guys, 11 guys, and they're going to be walled off. They're going to know, here's your target A, and you're going do it on this day. Do your surveillance, do everything. That's your target.
• 37:15
  And Brian made a great point. He said, let's said, okay, give me an give me an example of a target. He said, what if those 12 guys went into, say, JFK Airport at 11:00 in the morning with their machine guns at their m fours, a k's, and they just annihilated everybody. And then they wouldn't blow themselves up because they're an army. Then they retreat and they go back into hiding.
• 37:41
  What would that do to America? Do you think you would bring America to a screeching halt and bring us to our knees? Absolutely. Absolutely. So when I have former president Trump, I have DHS putting out on San Diego sector put out a terror warning of Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic jihadists are crossing into America.
• 38:03
  That's what they said. Be aware they're coming. I have my own government. I have the the the individual that wants to change the government. Everyone's saying the same thing.
• 38:15
  And here I am, and I've been saying this for years, and now it's coming to fruition. You can't allow the enemy inside America. I'm not talking about eight terrorists. I'm talking about 80,000 in one year, special interest aliens with some tied to terrorism have been allowed into our country. The insanity goes beyond even the your ability to to rationally think that right after Israel, I actually sat and did this.
• 38:50
  Okay. It's ten in the morning on on Sunday. Let me see how long it is before these protests, anti American politicians begin the drumbeat of Palestinian refugees. And within eight hours, we won a million Palestinian refugees in America. But I pull myself back and I have to say, don't get emotional.
• 39:14
  Remember, they are trying to destroy America. It makes sense. And when you when that is in your backdrop that these people hate America and they wanna change America, it makes sense. And I I come back to you with the same rhetorical question. Through all their actions, open borders, unfettered avenues have come in, the demand for a million Palestinians to come into America, and on and on and on.
• 39:45
  Tell me where I'm wrong. Tell me how this helps America. Explain to me how this benefits America, the sovereignty of America, America as a whole, makes us more safe, makes us more successful economically. Explain it to me. And nobody can.
• 40:04
  And I'm asking very simple basic questions that people can't even answer the simple basic questions of why, how does this make America good? How does it make us great? No one can answer the question because the answer is it does not. It harms us. It puts us in the crosshairs.
• 40:28
  You have you have hundreds of thousands of special interest aliens. You have tens of thousands of terrorists. You and I haven't even discussed the millions of criminal aliens in our nation. I do a whole chapter in my book, Invaded, where I just dive into the data, and I go so I go all the way down to like a minuscule percentage, and I can prove that there are millions of illegal aliens that have been in and out of our jails and still live in America and still rape and pillage our communities in America. And our government does nothing.
• 41:03
  Does nothing. Let me just give you a just a a an incredible statistic that is shocking. Since when Joe Biden took office till now and it's even increased then, but back thirty months ago, there was 4,800,000 people that had already gone through the immigration process, saw the immigration judge had appeal after appeal after appeal and the immigration judge says you're still deportable. You are deportable and you are to be removed on this date. Four point eight million have absconded.
• 41:38
  4,800,000 people living in America have been ordered, deported, and were refused to leave, and we do nothing about it. Is this America? Oh, I'm a strong, strong believer in our founding fathers, the greatness of America, because it provides freedom and opportunity. But freedom and opportunity is only available with the foundation of law and order. If you do not have law and order, you will have chaos and chaos does not lead to success and prosperity.
• 42:08
  We are a lawless nation. We have we have people say two tiers of justice. I can even argue that that's wrong. But dear god, man, when you look at the enormity of what's happening let me give you another statistic that is shocking. Over 50,000,000 people living in America are foreign nationals.
• 42:29
  So we have a one in seven out of one in 6.75 of every 6.75 people, one of them is not from America. Have at best minimum, the most conservative number, about 35 to 40,000,000 illegal aliens in our country. So a one in eight or one in nine are elite. And then I asked this rhetorical question because we know the answer. Look at Rome, Greece, Alexander The Great's Empire, the Ottoman, all the empires.
• 43:02
  Name one, name one that had that demographic population percent and succeeded and remain the same or did not just implode and die. You can't name one. You can't. Oh, I know that think America's better.
• 43:19
  Seth Holehouse: It was one of the main reasons that Rome fell. Was it was their immigration, open borders. And then once and the point that, you know, through through my own study of of Rome and the fall of Rome is that, yeah, when everything is peaceful, those different tribes and people that they they fit in. But when everything is not peaceful, they revert to a very tribalistic view to protect their own and to fight whoever's not their own tribe. One one other question that I have with this is I'm piecing together these just this the storyline of, you know, Biden gets in, completely opens the border, knowingly letting terrorists and terrorists, you know, people from terrorist countries just into the country, like in 10s of thousands and hundreds of thousands of individuals.
• 44:13
  And so if there was going to be some sort of, say, not a d day, but something like that where they get the order, they they've all got their
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Activation date.
• 44:23
  Seth Holehouse: Some sort of activation, and they start to bring mass chaos in America. They would need some they would need supplies, whether it's uniforms or not, but they would need weapons, ammunition, etcetera. So did you see any indication of that coming across the border as well? Did you see that that it's not just the drugs where they're, you know, weapons caches coming across that are potentially being hidden in America for that activation day when everyone goes to their own warehouse, they open up and they unbox their crates, and they've all got everything they need to cause mass chaos.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I have not seen that. Doesn't mean it's not happening. Now you you mentioned drugs. So we have terrorists in our nation. Ability to get what they need from a financial perspective is that's that's a no brainer.
• 45:20
  You and I have been talking for almost an hour now. We haven't even discussed drugs and the money, the trillions, not billion, a trillion dollar business is. So money and cash and ability to purchase things, weapons, uniforms, vests, whatever it is, that that that's like that's not an issue for them.
• 45:44
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family, with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
• 46:03
  This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
• 46:36
  So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food.
• 46:56
  This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is. So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar.
• 47:26
  They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etc. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year.
• 47:51
  Again, depends on your budget, but definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go put up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, that's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, folks, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late. Again, heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth to save 15% today.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: You got to understand that we're not in a war. The war that we'll be in Douglas MacGregor said this on, on Tucker Carlson's interview. And I find him to be very enlightening and incredibly articulate from his experience and knowledge. And he said something that stuck with me yesterday. And I would like to touch on what you just said too, because it's very poignant.
• 48:51
  He says, when we go to war and we will go to war, if you don't think we're going to war, you are a fool. We are on the precipice of World War III. You can see everything aligning. This is a guy that's been there and done it. He says we will fight at least on two fronts, one at home and one abroad.
• 49:08
  And what he was saying is just what you said. They will need support. Will need physical, emotional support. They will need the people that align with So I bring in 10s of 1000s. I see the videos of the parades.
• 49:27
  I look at those faces. I know who just from my own, I could spot 100 yards away if a guy's illegal or he is a cardholder, I could just sense it from all my years. I'm looking at these videos and I'm seeing people that I'm like, that guy just got here. That guy's only been here for a couple of months. They're waving their Palestinian flag.
• 49:49
  So when we go to war, and I wrote this on my substack the other day, when we go to war and if you do not think that we're on the precipice of war, you're you're just don't wanna get into reality. Once we go to war in The Middle East with Iran, China, Russia, that that coalition, and we're fighting their brothers and sisters, Do you think they're going to take up arms with us to fight their people? Or are they going to take up arms and fight us? And before you say, well, there's not that many, oh, really? Just saw minimum a million marching through our big cities.
• 50:27
  And they believe in their cause. We are the great saving. And we allowed them to come into our great saving nation. And what do you think they're going to do to us? So when you say, when you mentioned that, that just rang a bell with Mr.
• 50:43
  McGregor and what you're saying. And I think I look at these parades and I think, well, at the baseline, what I'm what I'm describing is reality. It's happening. And when you begin to look at the totality of it, again, put all the pieces together, connect the dots, then tell me what what probability of a bad outcome is it? There is no other outcome.
• 51:14
  Times have changed. Listen. When we went to DHS from from Immigration and Naturalization Service, the INS, which was grotesquely horrible, we went to DHS, our number one mission was preventing terrorists and terrorist actions in America, right? We all scoffed that the torrential agents were like, dude, just stop it. We don't even we're not even see these people.
• 51:41
  The real problem is millions of people coming in our nation destroying our social services, our schools, everything, crime, blah, blah, blah. Strangely enough, since Biden's taken office as bad, we haven't even talked about the 7,000,000 people they let in to our nation that has destroyed New York, Chicago, DC, Austin, Phoenix, LA, Sam, I go on forever. They're all state of emergencies, right? Because they have too many legal aliens. But truly, our greatest threat right now is being attacked from within.
• 52:14
  Absolutely. I a % agree to that. I pray to God that I'm I hope I die when I die. No, nothing happens. I have a son.
• 52:23
  I got a 12 year old son. You think I want my son living in this screwed up insane world where our government hates us and does this and I know, listen, I know how I sound. I do, I understand. I used to listen to guys like this ten years ago and I would think that guy is absolutely off his rocker, But we didn't have the data that we had today. Today, I'm looking at a completely different immigration system, a completely different people that are running And I'm saying out loud, yes, absolutely, 100% this could happen and probably will.
• 52:59
  And it doesn't make me feel good. I take no joy in it. I mean, I'm looking at Tom Homan, former ICE director, incredible patriot. He wrote an article today in Breitbart where he was detailing the the the people I call them the tenants of my orcas that are in the DHS. They're full on anti ice defund the Border Patrol.
• 53:27
  They're running the DHS. They're supposed to be my backup. They're supposed to give me resources. They just turned over a tracking system. It's a pilot program.
• 53:37
  I'm sorry, don't have the acronym. It's like CP BA or something. I apologize. I should have had written down. They turned over this pilot program.
• 53:46
  It's a tracking mechanism. And they gave this hundreds of millions of dollars business to an NGO that wants to fund ICE. You can't make this up. But that's just one person, one entity in the DHS. And I wrote in my book, I wrote a couple of people I wrote on Substack detailing several people that are in DHS that are full on.
• 54:13
  That's not like, I'm not, I'm not like, yeah, they hate the border patrol. No, I'm reading their posts on Twitter and I'm reading their articles. Yes, article. I want to defund the border patrol and ICE. They're racist and they're not.
• 54:27
  Those are the people that are now overseeing the border patrol. The same people that hated us and called us Nazis and racist. How do you think that is going? What outcome do you think is going to happen when all this falls out and the product comes out? Do you think you're gonna have a border patrol that's gung ho and ready to do the job?
• 54:52
  Are you gonna have border patrol agents and ICE agents that are resentful? They feel horrible that they're betraying the oath and I'll give you a perfect example of the manifestation of what they've done to Border Patrol. We have immense suicide rate in the United States Border Patrol. That has a lot to do with feeling as if you are committing crimes and you betrayed your oath. I I I I don't know what oaths people take in quote the civilian world.
• 55:25
  Okay. I grew up with a father who was like a hero to me, part of all the presidents was highly successful secret service agent. And he was a rock. So when I got up there and my dad gave me my badge, when I when I graduated, I swore an oath That meant something to me. That that just means something.
• 55:42
  It meant a great deal to me that you are giving me a gun and a badge, and you're telling me that I could take people's freedoms from them and put them in jail and deport them. That's a big deal. And I have to do that by knowing the law and and enforcing the law to protect America and keep America safe. May you may say, well, that's so hokey and that that's not hokey. How do you think America survives?
• 56:14
  How do you think America isn't destroyed by the criminal savages in America? Do you think that there's one police officer per every five citizens? No. Federal state and local police officers total about 660,000. There's 330,000,000 people in America.
• 56:32
  How did how do we keep the savages at bay are men like me that swore no for that said, okay, there's my badge. It means something. So now you take that badge, tarnish it, rip it off my chest and you tell me you're going to do everything that you know is illegal. And then you wonder, I wonder why those men and women are killing themselves in the Border Patrol or police for that matter. I wonder why.
• 56:57
  Right? So I do take this personal. I try to remove myself from the personal aspect to just talk data and numbers, but there's times where it's very personal. I've seen this man Mayorkas, the secretary of DHS dismantle everything that me and my buddies did. Men that died on the border.
• 57:17
  Men that had their heads caved in by rocks. I got broken bones in my body. They fall off cliffs and fighting these people. And now you undid it all illegally and nobody says a word about it. Now I see the real data starts coming out.
• 57:35
  We're starting to see the special interest aliens and the terrorism. There is no outcome that is good. I will just say that. I am trying I pray to God that nothing happens to my family. That's it.
• 57:47
  I know how selfish that sounds, but that's that's what I want. But I come on to shows like this and I and I speak the truth and I know that I'm vulnerable because people are going to say things to me and I see it all the time. But I have more people than not say, you know what, man? I'm looking at all the data that you put out there. And yes, I fact checked you and you're right.
• 58:09
  And that's what I put in my book. And I say every time I'm interviewed, I want you to fact check me. I want you to take every single word that I said, and I want you to scrutinize it because what you're gonna find out is dear God, that guy is speaking the truth. And I have all footnotes in my book, I have everything you want to fact check me, just go ahead. I encourage it because it will just strengthen my resolve and it will give you knowledge that you need.
• 58:36
  Seth Holehouse: And that knowledge is important because I think that it's the the knowledge of this information, which is why I want to have guests like you on for these discussions that becomes power to do something. And if you look at what happened with Israel, which, you know, you could arguably say that that was a practice run for what could happen here in America. When you look at terrorist cells coming across the border and murdering innocent civilians, You know, I'm a I'm a big person talking about prepping. It's something that is is a big part of my life. And not just prepping, but also learning how to grow food, learning how to raise chickens, learning how to use a firearm, etcetera.
• 59:15
  Even setting up plans for for the family. Okay. Here's the safe room. Here's where the food's stored. So those things don't happen.
• 59:24
  Or if even if these events, say, do happen on our American soil, that I can be one of the families that is able to defend my family. And so for people that are watching this, and I see there's a lot of folks that maybe they know what's happening, but their spouse doesn't. And they want to be, you know, buying food and learning how to use a gun, but there's differences. What would you tell people about the importance of being prepared and knowing how to take care of your family if we see these terror cells activated, which I unfortunately have to agree with you that it looks like a very high probability of that. What do you tell folks in order to about the importance of being prepared?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's, I think you can't be prepared for everything. But I believe there are life saving discussions like if someone comes into your house, and in the middle of the night, I told my son and my wife, I don't, I'll take care of this. You got to go into the safe room, lock it down. Here's the here's the safe password that you know, it's me. If they say that please don't open up, just sit there with your weapon.
• 1:00:40
  If anyone comes through, you blast them. It's hard to have that discussion with my 12 year old son, but I have to. I have to have this discussion with my son. Police officer comes to the door. Hey, I want to come in.
• 1:00:52
  No, sir. With all due respect, no, sir, unless you have a warrant. Right? Sad, but I have to have this discussion. What I would say to you or anyone that had a spouse or somebody that's fucking this and saying, this is insane that we're ever having this discussion.
• 1:01:07
  I would just sit them down and say, can you please watch this video of from the Hamas GoPro, where they just walked into houses, random houses in Israel, One of the most fortified nations on planet Earth, got inside and just started indiscriminately raping, pillaging, murdering people, shooting them, a point blank in the head. And then I would say, why would it what do you have to lose to be prepared? I I was looking at some of your old videos and I believe it I can't remember which one it was and you were joking about how you went to Costco and bought like hundreds of pounds of rice, right? What's the worst thing? Now you've got a year or two years supply of rice so you can feed your family.
• 1:01:55
  That's the worst thing that happens and you save some money because now the rice is double triple of what happened, right? So there is no downside to being prepared. There is incredible downside to not be prepared to be living in la la land. We call it in law enforcement code white where you just kind of everything's great. I'm gonna go get my frappuccino and everything, but you can't be in code red where you're like high alert ready to kill somebody.
• 1:02:22
  But you've got to be somewhere in between where you're kind of looking around going, this doesn't make sense. God put in some of us more than others, but God instinctively instilled in our minds and our souls the ability to hear and see truth. And he also gave us the ability to if you've quiet yourself, you can hear the right thing to do. When you're looking at the world, and I think that we all can agree, left, right, center, Something's not right. Something is off kilter.
• 1:02:57
  We all feel it. Maybe we can't articulate it all or we agreed to what it is, but we all feel as if something's not right. There's a reason why you feel that way. Don't dismiss it. There's a reason why you don't trust your government.
• 1:03:15
  I mean, do we go back? Let's just go back twenty, twenty five years. Look at them the major things the government has done that were 180. They were completely wrong, completely wrong, and utterly changed our lives for the worst. For the worst.
• 1:03:33
  So I find you to be less. Find you to be sophomoric if you continue to believe these people and continue to trust where they've already damaged you severely. I mean, look at the economy today. Am am I supposed to believe that we're really not in a recession with almost 8% interest rates for homes, credit cards are going up to 30%, everyone's losing all of their four zero one k by the trillions of dollars have been lost, Everything is exponentially two, three, four times the cost. I'm supposed to believe that a man that ran for president two or three times and couldn't even get like 3% of the vote now got 81,000,000 votes by living in his basement, where the person that was going against him was having rallies with 80,000 people with another 30,000 waiting to get in.
• 1:04:34
  That guy lost to the guy that couldn't get six people in a circle? Am I supposed to believe that Secretary of Homeland Security Mayorkas that has taken all the policies that went to DHS and ripped them to shreds and made fraudulent asylum, fraudulent parole, catch and release, that that guy's not the enemy, that that guy's trying to do something good for America? I could go down here. I could spend all day with you going over. Look what happened in Minnesota.
• 1:05:11
  What happened in Texas. Look what happened in murders and rapes. Oh, they're all illegal aliens. Oh, they just came in the last two or three years. Oh, they're all illegal aliens.
• 1:05:21
  Yeah. Yeah. I could I could go on for days, literally days. You and could just do a marathon of of crimes committed by illegal aliens against Americans. Heinous crimes.
• 1:05:36
  This is not a fun topic. And you and I think of this. You and I have been speaking over an hour. We talked about truly SIAs and terrorists. Look what we have not even even haven't even mentioned.
• 1:05:51
  Not even one word of it. I'm not criticizing. I'm just saying look at the enormity of it. You and I have not even talked about the true number of illegal aliens allowed in our country. You and I barely touched on the amount of narcotics that are destroying America that are pouring in from the Southern border.
• 1:06:06
  You and I have not even discussed the sex trafficking of children in America by the hundreds of thousands. We haven't even talked about the crime. We just did anecdotes. Look at how big this thing is that is destroying America called illegal immigration. It's ravaging America.
• 1:06:30
  There are pictures and videos. We can go. If you wanna talk about child sex trafficking, you wanna talk about something that is horrific. Our federal government is facilitating this. They know it's happening.
• 1:06:46
  Do you know that people are coming when you fly when you when you come into America legally, you fly into South America or Central America, and then you make this I call it the the trauma gauntlet. You you you traverse all those countries to get to America. The amount of women, the percentage of women and children being raped and sexually assaulted. Do you know that there is a a a hard like a battle between all of the parties, left, right, middle, everybody on the percentage. Not that it's happening, but the percentage.
• 1:07:24
  And you know what the fight is about? Is it 60% or is it 80%? Do you understand what I'm just saying? Millions of women and children are coming up the border, and our argument is 60% of them are being rape and sexually assaulted. No.
• 1:07:45
  No. No. You're wrong. It's 80%. That's the argument.
• 1:07:49
  Not how do we stop it's 6%. If it was 6%, I would be like, oh my God, 6% of a million people are being raping. What? No, no, no. 60%.
• 1:08:00
  Eighty %. Let me give you one example. Just one that goes on forever. Holman, I wrote about in my book. Tom Holman goes and has to testify in Congress.
• 1:08:10
  And he is passionate like me because he sees it. I've seen this. It's not like I'm just making these stories up. I lived it for twenty four years. I know it's happened.
• 1:08:20
  Tom Homan's in front of Congress and he says, let me give you an example, just one of what this looks like in reality when I'm talking about it. So he goes, I'm down there in Texas, go inform a sheriff, a sheriff brings me in and we go to the autopsy, I'm talking to the coroner, and we're talking about two Nigerian, a mom and a dad and their 20 old little girl that just drowned in the Rio Grande as they tried to cross the cotton occurrence. He says, the coroner pulls me aside and says, listen, sir, she she died from from drowning. However, she has been raped in every orifice of her body by the cartels. And Tom Homan says exactly what I said because everyone was like and he says, let me make sure that you understand what I'm saying.
• 1:09:13
  This isn't the exception. This is happening right now as you and I speak. It happens all day, every day, all night, every month. And you, you politicians are allowing us to have And nothing's done. It's facilitated more.
• 1:09:30
  We have the sound of freedom, that incredible movie. I lived it. Those scenes of of Calexico, California, and and San Isidro, I worked those areas. I know exactly what the hell they're depicted on those videos. As powerful as that is, you have politicians saying no that's a lie that doesn't happen.
• 1:09:51
  You're part of the problem. You're either part of the pedophile ring or you like that type of lifestyle or you're trying to retain your power and wealth somehow that you're getting. This is happening people. We haven't even discussed this. Hundreds of thousands of kids in US soil are being raped.
• 1:10:10
  They're being labor traffic. Do you know that people don't even know this? In the latest Biden spending bill, 106,000,000,000, he tied border security to the funding of of Ukraine and Israel war, which is abomination. So he he gave 14,000,000,000. Hundred and 6 billion, but only 14,000,000,000 to America.
• 1:10:30
  Everything else went to foreign nations. Okay? 14,000,000,000 is supposed to go to border security. No. No.
• 1:10:38
  It's not. 90% of the 14,000,000,000 goes over 90% goes to build facilities in South America and Central America to facilitate the flow of illegal aliens. Do you know that where $100,000,000 of that dollar went to, or is going to? It's going to go to, think of this, how damning this is, dollars 100,000,000 is going to be given to the Department of Labor. And why?
• 1:11:07
  Because the Department of Labor has seen a 44% increase in the last ten months of children working in industrial places of employment. Children, we're finding 12 year olds, my son his age working in meat packing plants in Nebraska. If it's not okay for my son to not be raped, If it's not okay for my son to not work on midnight shift in a meat packing plant instead of eating Cheerios in the morning going to school with his friends and playing computer games at night. Is it okay for Americans to turn the blind eye when Jose from Guatemala Twelve years old is being annually raped and passed around to five or six pedophiles a night and then or forced to go work in Kellogg's packing my son's Cheerios at 02:00 in the morning. Can anybody explain how this has happened to America?
• 1:12:11
  And I will make it even more damning accusation. I believe America is morally we're past the crossroads. I believe that we are morally bankrupt as a nation because the sound of freedom comes out. Everyone talks about it. People are testifying in Congress, not just Tom Homan, but people inside whistleblowers from HHS, from Office of Refugee Resettlement that are claiming children are being abused and were being released to people they don't even know.
• 1:12:44
  So this is common knowledge. But Americans do nothing. They say nothing. Our representatives do nothing. So in fact, just by league legality, you are complicit in America.
• 1:12:58
  You are complicit in all of this destruction of precious human lives. And something that you and I, maybe I should have started out with is to make that distinction because the rhinos in the left love to conflate legal immigration with illegal immigration. I'm talking about the legal immigration to our nation. I'm talking about legal immigration. I think legal immigration is amazing.
• 1:13:23
  I believe and I have seen and witnessed and talked to thousands of people that have naturalized become citizens. Some of them are better patriots than the above average America. It's like I'm Catholic. So people that convert to Catholicism, go through the teachings and learn, they are more times better Catholics than I am because they understand the faith better because they learned as adults. Same thing with people naturalized.
• 1:13:49
  They have been in the cesspool for third world countries being brutalized. They come to America and they feel safe and they feel proud. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the illegal immigration that's in our country that do not have allegiance to America or Americans. And I'm sorry if I come off very passionate about this.
• 1:14:10
  It is I it. You know, I have become desensitized to everything. I've seen so much degradation, human degradation in twenty four years that I've it doesn't bother me. The raping, the women being raped and murderers and and as horrific as that is, and I know that says a great deal about me, very aware of that, but the mutilation and the destruction of young kids, I just can't tolerate it. And then when when you pile on that our government facilitates it and allows it to happen, if it doesn't infuriate you as a human being, I don't know what I can tell you to motivate you to make a call to congressman or write a letter or do whatever you want or just speak to your neighbor about it so everybody comes educated.
• 1:15:05
  I don't know what to tell you. And this is happening as you and I are speaking. This is happening. One of the things they say why child sex trafficking is so lucrative is when I push over heroin or cocaine, and I sell it to average Joe American because it's not being consumed just by the ghettos, it's it's consumed by Middle America. So I take that snort of cocaine or I shoot that heroin in my arm or I cook that cocaine up.
• 1:15:36
  It's a one time hit. It's gone. Not with a kid. I could pass that kid around five, ten times a night. Every night, all day, every day, and we do nothing.
• 1:15:52
  I look at my beautiful son and I think, I I would go to the ends of the earth to find that kid. Then I would god save my soul. I would kill everybody that I got my hands on. But I feel an obligation if I feel that passion about my son, Someone else has a son or a daughter that's being sexually trafficked in America. No one's saying anything.
• 1:16:21
  But that kid's life is just important as my son's life, and we say nothing. How is that? Why is that? And I talked to people of influence and power and I asked them that. What tell me.
• 1:16:39
  Why why are we why do we allow this in America? The greatest nation on planet Earth that is now in moral decay. No one can give me an answer. It's frustrating. And and I'm telling you, the things that I'm telling you are true.
• 1:16:58
  They're happening. Why would I waste my time to come on a podcast and lie? What would I gain? What do I gain from this? To sell a few books for me books?
• 1:17:11
  And that'd be great if it's if it's it's skyrockets and I make some money. But who really cares? This is what's happening to America. As you're seeing the fundamental transformation of America, and there's casualties in that fundamental transformation. And the powers to be do not care.
• 1:17:34
  You're just a pawn in this giant board game, and they've got to get to the end of that game to win. And if you get brutalized, your kids get kidnapped and raped. If I have to use people to get to that end, well, that's part of the game. And the ends justify the means. It does.
• 1:17:56
  I
• 1:17:59
  Seth Holehouse: feel like I'm just listening to my own self in a lot of this because this is the world that I live in too is just looking at this evil and just wrapping my head around how did we even get here. And as much as I want to go back to the life of ignorance is bliss, I can't. I've seen it. And I know that the audience that go there watching shows like mine, they're in the same place. They would rather know the reality of what's happening than live in this little bubble that's really safe until it gets popped one day and everything is over.
• 1:18:39
  So JJ, I feel like that we could do about 30 more shows together, which I do want to have you back on. But before we sign off, I do want to just bring your book up. The Intentional Destruction of the American Immigration System, which just came out this past summer. You can be found wherever you can buy books, you know, I would highly recommend folks get the book, read about it, follow you on Twitter, follow you like I pulled up before, on Daily Clout. You've now joined.
• 1:19:07
  Their team is one of the commentators there and you have these fantastic long form discussions with Brian O'Shea, who's a good friend of mine and someone who's come on the podcast before. So JJ, I just want to thank you again for coming on the show. Thank you for bringing this information out. I, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I truly believe that what's happening with our southern border and the people coming across represent the greatest threat to us here on American soil.
• 1:19:37
  And I just I thank you for doing the work that you're doing to help more Americans see that. And I hope that folks that have gotten this far in the interview when they finish, share this video, share this podcast, because more Americans need to understand that America is not what we thought it was before. That we are living at a time where like that GoPro footage that people you mentioned that happened over in Israel, that could be American soil six months from here. And I'm not being a fearmonger. I'm trying to be a realist.
• 1:20:08
  That could absolutely be in neighborhoods in suburban America across the country at the at the flip of a switch.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much for giving me the time to speak and lay out the facts as as they truly are. So I appreciate that opportunity. Thank you.
• 1:20:26
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely, man.