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Is Food Better Than Medicine? · Life TV now

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Speaker 1: If the gut is tied to so many health issues,
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Speaker 1: then what we put into it matters more than we think.
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Speaker 1: Every day, people consume foods and even supplements that may
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Speaker 1: be working against their health while searching for answers via
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Speaker 1: diet trends, nutritional supports, and even medications. But what if
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Speaker 1: real healing starts somewhere more foundational. What if it turns
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Speaker 1: out that food is truly medicine. Today's guest is here
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Speaker 1: to reveal the truth about gut health and what many
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Speaker 1: practitioners may be missing when it comes to restoring it.
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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Life TV now, where we
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Speaker 1: unpack all matters of truth, faith and freedom. Today we're
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Speaker 1: going to be talking about fundamental way to completely alter
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Speaker 1: your life if you'll listen and adhere to what's being discussed.
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Speaker 1: But before we dive in, let me introduce who's here.
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Speaker 1: She's an integrative nutrition health coach with a Master of
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Speaker 1: Science and health education. Please welcome our executive director, Jamie Woodle,
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Speaker 1: and she's a clinical nutritionist and integrative health practitioner with
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Speaker 1: a doctorate in integrative healthcare. Focused on clinical nutrition. She
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Speaker 1: combines science, nutrition and lifestyle strategies to help people restore
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Speaker 1: health naturally, highlighting the connection between gut health, metabolism, immunity,
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Speaker 1: and overall wellness. Please welcome doctor Rachel Shuck. Friends, have
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Speaker 1: you missed last week? Go back to wherever it is
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Speaker 1: that you watch Life TV. Now find us in the archives.
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Speaker 1: Go to social media, make sure that you catch up
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Speaker 1: with what we're doing as we spend week two now
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Speaker 1: unpacking one of the benchmarks the foundational points of health
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Speaker 1: that a lot of practitioners completely overlook, and that is
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Speaker 1: the health of the gut and all of its downstream labels,
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Speaker 1: things like fibromyalgia, arthritis, autoimmunity, digestive disorders, acid reflux, gird,
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Speaker 1: thyroid dysfunction, migraines, hormonal imbalances. The list goes on and
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Speaker 1: on and on. These are all things that at the
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Speaker 1: very least, Doctor Rachel Schuck can be dramatically impacted by
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Speaker 1: way of the gut, for the better or the worse,
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Speaker 1: depending on how you're taking care of your body. In
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Speaker 1: our last conversation, we talked about how the gut impacts
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Speaker 1: metabolic health. I'd like to go a little bit deeper
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Speaker 1: this week. How do everyday food choices either damage or
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Speaker 1: support the gut when you're dealing with clients, what do
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Speaker 1: you see walking in through the door constantly.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to back up a little bit too part
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Speaker 2: of that with the metabolic health, yes, and how the
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Speaker 2: food either supports us or you know, it either nourish
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Speaker 2: us or it depletes us.
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Speaker 3: There's really kind of no in between.
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Speaker 2: And with the metabolic health, I think really trying to
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Speaker 2: tie this together for people so they understand a little
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Speaker 2: bit more the direct influence.
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Speaker 3: A lot of people are walking.
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Speaker 2: Around with blood sugar issues. I mean that's really common.
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Speaker 2: You know, insulin resistance is kind of where that's all
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Speaker 2: very intricately connected. If we are eating foods that nourish us,
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Speaker 2: there's a bacteria in our gut that is really beneficial.
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Speaker 2: We call it Pediacoccus pantasassius. But if it's in your
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Speaker 2: gut when you eat food, that particular bacteria is going
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Speaker 2: to eat the glucose inside of the intestinal lumine, which
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Speaker 2: means it's not going to hit your bloodstream. So the
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Speaker 2: more we're eating foods that nourish us, that work with
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Speaker 2: our body, the better our body metabolically is supported, if
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Speaker 2: that makes sense. And so now kind of moving from
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Speaker 2: that question. A lot of what I see people coming
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Speaker 2: into my office is they're eating the ultra process refined carbohydrates.
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Speaker 2: And if someone's not sure what that looks like, your biscuits,
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Speaker 2: your pancakes, your cake, your donuts, a lot of the breads,
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Speaker 2: anything that's kind of that enriched wheat flour thing. You're
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Speaker 2: eating a product that's been heavily stripped of how it
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Speaker 2: was designed to be eaten. We've removed the fiber, we've
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Speaker 2: removed the pieces that help work in the digestion track,
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Speaker 2: and now one of our biggest detoxification pathways, which is
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Speaker 2: through the gut, now we've fed it things that can
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Speaker 2: actually block detoxification. So you may be doing a really
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Speaker 2: great liver cleanse, but if you're not having a bowel
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Speaker 2: movement every day, then all you're doing is pushing that
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Speaker 2: into the intestines and is recirculating into the bloodstream. And
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Speaker 2: so what I say to my clients is you have
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Speaker 2: to start with the end in mind.
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Speaker 3: You're rear my dear.
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Speaker 1: Like, why do I feel like Billy Coppy is just
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Speaker 1: going to make a T shirt up?
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Speaker 2: The people that are coming into my practice. What I
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Speaker 2: see over and over and over again, is they come in,
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Speaker 2: they're frustrated. They say, but I eat healthy. Why am
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Speaker 2: I not getting these results? And then when you really
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Speaker 2: when you start going through their food diary, because my
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Speaker 2: clients have to keep a food diary. If they don't,
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Speaker 2: I'm working in the dark. I don't know what the
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Speaker 2: inputs are, right, and then I need to know what
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Speaker 2: the outputs are too.
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Speaker 3: That's a whole other topic.
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Speaker 2: But what I see over and over is they're buying
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Speaker 2: these foods that are been I think the word now
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Speaker 2: is greenwashed. You know, we've been told it's organic sugar.
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Speaker 3: It's still sugar.
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Speaker 1: Her I got you like gluten free.
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Speaker 2: Eggs, right, it's they're labeling in the marketing.
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Speaker 3: It's so it's just it's.
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Speaker 2: Out of control. And then also a lot of times
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Speaker 2: people don't realize they're not eating right for themselves. If
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Speaker 2: I have a woman come in with, you know, severe
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Speaker 2: adrenal fatigue, she's probably not the person who should be
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Speaker 2: cutting carbs, right, that's not her problem. If you come
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Speaker 2: into me and see me and you have severe insulin resistance,
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Speaker 2: then we are going to work on carbohydrate intake. Everyone
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Speaker 2: is a little different. There's so much bio individuality with that,
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Speaker 2: and then a lot of the people are eating. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's hard not to. So I'm not there's no judgment,
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Speaker 2: and I'm guilty of eating this food too, But we're
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Speaker 2: eating food that has been sprayed with essentially antibiotics. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if you think about what glyphasate is, at its core,
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Speaker 2: it's an antibiotic. So we know that's all over our
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Speaker 2: wheat products. I'm like, do people have a wheat allergy
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Speaker 2: or do they have a glypha state problem? And I
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Speaker 2: don't know right it's probably a combination of the two.
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Speaker 2: You know, one other pesticide doesn't get mentioned. A lot gluposeyinate.
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Speaker 2: Same at the end of the day, spray on a
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Speaker 2: lot of crops. It's an antibiotic. We are disrupting our
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Speaker 2: guts with our food, with our medication, with our water,
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Speaker 2: all the different things. So this is kind of what
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Speaker 2: I see when my clients come in. And I'm also
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Speaker 2: super realistic. We're never going to get it perfect, but
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Speaker 2: we can. Our bodies are so smart. If we can
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Speaker 2: get it right just enough, the healing can happen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you see so many fads also eat paleo, eat this,
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Speaker 1: eat that. There's a Hebrew diet. Now, my question is,
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Speaker 1: because I know this is very important to you food
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Speaker 1: variety people walking into clinic, Well, I've tried everything. In fact,
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Speaker 1: I'm really limiting my food. I only eat these seven
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Speaker 1: things that could be detrimental too, right, long.
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Speaker 3: Term, I don't love that.
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Speaker 2: I think if you're having to continuously limit your foods now,
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Speaker 2: ultra processed foods always need to go. Those aren't really foods, right,
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Speaker 2: But if you're having to continuously limit your foods, I
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Speaker 2: my sentiment to that is maybe the true healing hasn't
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Speaker 2: fully happened. So I do get people that come in
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Speaker 2: they really truly can't do fiber. Their guts have been
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Speaker 2: so disrupted. So first we have to work on healing
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Speaker 2: the gut. Then we can start adding the fiber back in.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, at the end of the day, we want
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Speaker 2: to get meat.
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Speaker 3: Products are gonna be really good at giving you.
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Speaker 2: Your amino acids. They're gonna be the best at that, right,
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Speaker 2: they're even better at minerals. But if we're not eighting plants, well,
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Speaker 2: where's your phyto nutrients?
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Speaker 1: Right?
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Speaker 3: And those are the things that we don't even know
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Speaker 3: what they do yet.
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Speaker 2: We're not that we're not God, we don't know, right,
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Speaker 2: but they're there and we're no that they are beneficial
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Speaker 2: when we start researching each individual thing. So the point
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Speaker 2: is to get to a healing place of where you
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Speaker 2: don't need to follow a fad or a trend or
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Speaker 2: a restricted diet.
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Speaker 1: Look, I know that we're talking really quick and we're
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Speaker 1: kind of jumping from gut health and last week we
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Speaker 1: talked about liver health and how you know, not having
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Speaker 1: a gallbladder is maybe more important than what you've been
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Speaker 1: told it is. And enzymes and you know, the way
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Speaker 1: that your body needs hydrochloric acid to be able to
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Speaker 1: break down food so PPIs maybe devastate the process of absorption.
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Speaker 1: Go back last week because we really did talk about
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Speaker 1: a lot of things that we're probably not going to
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Speaker 1: relitigate today. But for those that missed it, or for
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Speaker 1: those watching this program that want to know, okay, okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: doctor Rachel Shuck, you've compelled me, I get it. Gut
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Speaker 1: health is a super important area of health that no
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Speaker 1: one's talking about. What does that actually look like day
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Speaker 1: to day in very practical ways for the layperson that's
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Speaker 1: just learning.
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Speaker 2: About this, what it looks like day to day, especially
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Speaker 2: for my clients, is slow but steady wins the race.
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Speaker 2: Have a lot of people come in who are taking
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Speaker 2: massive doses of probiotics or trying to just shove a
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Speaker 2: whole bunch of probiotic rich foods, you know, down their
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Speaker 2: gullet and.
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Speaker 1: Down their gullet. I have said that so many times.
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Speaker 1: I love it.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Okay, the body needs sometimes to have time
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Speaker 2: to adapt, and a lot of what I do with
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Speaker 2: people is if we need to replenish the gut microbiome
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Speaker 2: because they've taken antibiotics, they've been exposed to other you know,
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Speaker 2: glyph esate all of those.
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Speaker 3: Things we're going to do.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes we start with a teaspoon of day of some
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Speaker 2: sour crowd juice, like we're not going to go crazy.
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Speaker 2: And one of the biggest things I have found for
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Speaker 2: healing the gut lightning, because a lot of people, as
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Speaker 2: we mentioned in the previous episode, have that intestinal permeabilities
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Speaker 2: of that leaky gut. I'm a huge fan of using
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Speaker 2: meat stock. In fact, I have a YouTube video that
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Speaker 2: shows you how to make it in like seven minutes.
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Speaker 2: Once you do it, it's so simple, it's so easy,
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Speaker 2: and it's so nourishing. So that's another way that I
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Speaker 2: help people kind of take it day by day. We're
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Speaker 2: not doing anything crazy, and I'm not giving you a
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Speaker 2: protocol that has twenty five steps. Sure you're going to
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Speaker 2: sit down with me one on one and we're going
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Speaker 2: to say, Okay, what can you do right now? And
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Speaker 2: how consistent can we be with that? Come back and
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Speaker 2: see me next time, and we'll add the next.
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Speaker 1: For people unfamiliar, when you say meat stock, remember we're
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Speaker 1: talking to a general audience. Maybe not everybody follows like
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Speaker 1: holistic health leanings or teachings. What do you mean by
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Speaker 1: meat stock? And if they wanted to get started, obviously
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Speaker 1: you have a website where you can kind of explain
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Speaker 1: that in more detail.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, check out my YouTube. There is a
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Speaker 2: meat stock video on how to make it. But one
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Speaker 2: thing I do run into is a lot of times
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Speaker 2: my clients will say, oh, yeah, I make bone broth
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Speaker 2: all the time. No, no, no, no, they're not the same.
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Speaker 2: Bone broth is different than meat stock. So meat stock
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Speaker 2: is going to be very like gelatinous, and we don't
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Speaker 2: cook it nearly as long. It's a three to four
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Speaker 2: hour cook in a Dutch oven.
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Speaker 3: It's not.
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Speaker 2: You know, bone broth is eighteen plus hours. The thing
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Speaker 2: I like about the meat stock is it's a lot
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Speaker 2: I would call it gentler, and for people with histamine issues,
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Speaker 2: it's also lower in histamine. Some people with hissamine still
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Speaker 2: can't even do meat stock, so kind of depends on
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Speaker 2: where they are in that journey. But when I'm talking
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Speaker 2: about cooking and making meat stock, I'm talking about you're
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Speaker 2: throwing a whole chicken, You're throwing in some chicken feet,
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Speaker 2: and then you open that thing up, you're like, oh,
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Speaker 2: but it's very healing and very nursing, and you don't
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Speaker 2: have to use chicken.
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Speaker 3: You can also make it with bee for fish or lamb.
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Speaker 1: Friends. We're going to bring her YouTube up on the
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Speaker 1: screen right now for you so you know exactly where
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Speaker 1: to follow up if you want to learn more about
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Speaker 1: meat stocks and how to prepare food like that. That
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Speaker 1: might be very nurishing to the gut. Beyond food though, Rachel,
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Speaker 1: you know people that think this is all just about
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Speaker 1: swallowing down their gullet, probiotics, fermented foods, other things. Maybe
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Speaker 1: lifestyle yesserle.
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Speaker 2: Right, it, yes, lifestyle matters. We cannot separate all of
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Speaker 2: these things. My tagline is food is medicine. But when
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Speaker 2: people are sitting in my office we're talking about everything.
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Speaker 2: Everything for me often goes back to the gut. Even
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Speaker 2: of like I said, I it's not the root cause
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Speaker 2: we still have to make sure that's healthy. If you
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Speaker 2: get out in the sunlight, that's actually going to help
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Speaker 2: increase the diversity and the number of microbes in your gut.
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Speaker 3: We know when you.
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Speaker 2: Get exposed to sunlight and that vitamin D production happens,
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Speaker 2: that vitamin D can help prepare the gut lighting and
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Speaker 2: it's super anti inflammatory. So that's we know that sunshine
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Speaker 2: is important. We also know movement can improve the gut microbiome.
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Speaker 2: Exercise is important. I say, listen, get the best of
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Speaker 2: both world and go outside and exercise if you can,
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Speaker 2: if you're ready and willing, because also some people are
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Speaker 2: so bad off they're not ready yet. But everyone can
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Speaker 2: go sit in the sun for five minutes. A lot
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Speaker 2: of people spend a lot of money on supplements which
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Speaker 2: have to go through the digestive tract. If we don't
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Speaker 2: have a healed, healthy digestive tract, it's not going to
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Speaker 2: get into the blood. If your digestive tract is good
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Speaker 2: and it gets into the blood, which is your delivery highway.
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Speaker 2: What kind of delivery system do you have if you
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Speaker 2: can't move the blood around. If it's not moving, you're
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Speaker 2: not delivering as well as you could. And this is
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Speaker 2: where the exercise piece also comes in.
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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you're brand new here to
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Speaker 1: life TV now, you probably don't know that this conversation
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Speaker 1: is very, very personal to me as someone whose origin
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Speaker 1: story really comes out of terrible, terrible autoimmunity in twenty
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Speaker 1: seven plus years of struggling to digest anything, that there
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Speaker 1: was a point in my life in my late twenties
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Speaker 1: early thirties, doctor Rachel, where I was afraid to swallow anything.
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Speaker 1: I had given up on all foods. It was all
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Speaker 1: going to tear me apart. And I said to God, like,
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Speaker 1: if you would just fill me with dark matter that
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Speaker 1: made me not hungry for all of life, I'll just
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Speaker 1: do that. I don't want to eat no more. And
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Speaker 1: they were telling me, you know, the genetic stories and
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Speaker 1: this is all about you know, maybe your father or
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Speaker 1: your mother has passed down to you something we don't
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Speaker 1: really know what causes all of this. Some people just
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Speaker 1: suffer like this, and so the management was ninety day
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Speaker 1: rounds of cipromax antibiotics to deal with chronic infection of diverticulitis. Now,
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Speaker 1: if you're unfamiliar, this is a catastrophic dismantling of everything
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Speaker 1: that your God exists. To do is to pound it
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Speaker 1: with antibiotics the way I did. The other thing is,
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Speaker 1: you know, eventually this leads to me having half of
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Speaker 1: my colon cut out because they're going to cut out
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Speaker 1: the diseased portions of the diverticulosis and I'm going to
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Speaker 1: get my life back. And I got to tell you.
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Speaker 1: I walked in and the surgeon very nice man. And
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna have half of your colon cut out
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Speaker 1: in the state of Missouri, this guy was the best. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm not disparaging him. He really wanted to see me. Well.
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Speaker 1: This is not a disparaging statement about allopathic medicine or
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Speaker 1: the surgeons that exist to do the work that they do.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't right for me at all. I came out
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Speaker 1: of that surgery. I was much worse than before I
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Speaker 1: walked in, and I had a catalog. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you guys have ever experienced this When people are
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Speaker 1: talking you towards a surgery doctor, Rachel Shuck, and they
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Speaker 1: show me pictures of an MMA fighter with a colostomy bag.
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Speaker 1: I'm not joking in the cage. But then he's got
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Speaker 1: this thing covering his hole, and then later he's all
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Speaker 1: buff and he's got this colostomy back. There's a model
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Speaker 1: walking on the beach with a little colostomy bag. I've
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Speaker 1: got people in the audience laughing out loud. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you can hear that. And she's got a
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Speaker 1: little heart shaped almost looks like a cute little tattoo
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Speaker 1: on her colostomy back. And basically what they're doing is
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Speaker 1: they're trying to show me that even in a worst
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Speaker 1: case scenario, if I lose all of my colon for
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Speaker 1: all of life, or if I have to live on
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Speaker 1: a colostomy bag, I can still have a great life.
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Speaker 1: Now I know people on colostomy bags the reality is
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Speaker 1: a lot more difficult for them than what was advertised.
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Speaker 1: And again, none of this addresses the underlying root cause.
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Speaker 1: So listen when I tell you this is very personal
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Speaker 1: to me, and that gut health is a paramount, paramount
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Speaker 1: what is the word? It is of paramount importance to
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Speaker 1: your capacity to thrive and to live well. This is
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Speaker 1: But it has very practical information, Doctor Rachel. About navigating
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Speaker 1: the grocery store, I don't know how often you get this.
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Speaker 1: Clients walk in and they say, well, I can't afford
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Speaker 1: to take these supplements. I can't afford to eat clean.
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Speaker 1: You know, I can get inexpensive foods for dollars. This
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Speaker 1: other stuff is over ten dollars in the The price disparity
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Speaker 1: is not something I can overcome. So I have to
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Speaker 1: do what I have to do, and first, very generically,
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Speaker 1: what you really can't afford to do is end up
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Speaker 1: in a health cataclysm. If you don't invest in your health,
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Speaker 1: if you don't make it a priority, you will pay
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Speaker 1: for it later one way or another.
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Speaker 3: And without health, I mean, there is no wealth without health.
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Speaker 4: Doctor Rachel. I'm really encouraged because so many times I
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Speaker 4: have heard from clinical nutritionists and they'll say things like,
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Speaker 4: you don't need to supplement.
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Speaker 3: Food will give you all that you need.
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Speaker 4: You can do your healing with food alone. But I
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Speaker 4: don't think they're taking into account the state of the
17:39
Speaker 4: typical Americans gut health. I don't think they're taking into
17:42
Speaker 4: account the depletion of our top soil and how our
17:46
Speaker 4: foods nowadays are full of much less nutrients than they
17:49
Speaker 4: were fifty or one hundred years ago. And so I'm
17:51
Speaker 4: really encouraged to hear you say things like sometimes you
17:55
Speaker 4: have to supplement to get that little bit of extra help.
17:58
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
17:59
Speaker 2: And I do you always try to take a food
18:03
Speaker 2: first approach. That's always the first step. But just like
18:05
Speaker 2: you said, our soil being depleted, I don't know anybody
18:08
Speaker 2: who's getting the right amount of magnesium.
18:11
Speaker 3: It's really hard to.
18:12
Speaker 2: Live in the US and get that quality or quantity
18:15
Speaker 2: that we need. So sometimes supplements are necessary, and it's
18:19
Speaker 2: just an unfortunate part of that.
18:20
Speaker 3: I think.
18:21
Speaker 2: You know, what I wrote in my book is that
18:22
Speaker 2: the unglamorous truth lies somewhere in the middle. You get
18:25
Speaker 2: the doctors who are like, oh, it's just expensive urine,
18:27
Speaker 2: and then you get the you know, other like natural
18:31
Speaker 2: practitioners who say, take twenty five different supplements all at once,
18:34
Speaker 2: and the reality is most people probably need something that's
18:37
Speaker 2: going to just balance them out. Sure, and that's going
18:40
Speaker 2: to be very individual.
18:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're writing a book.
18:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not out yet, but if you know, if
18:45
Speaker 2: someone wants to find it when it's ready, and I'm
18:47
Speaker 2: hoping by the end of the year, come to my website,
18:50
Speaker 2: subscribe to my email list. In the meantime, you'll get
18:52
Speaker 2: lots of interesting information, and when the book's ready, I'll
18:54
Speaker 2: shoot out a message.
18:55
Speaker 1: I want to tell you too that we had a
18:57
Speaker 1: chance to get an exclusive reader only copy and digit
19:01
Speaker 1: I had staff go through that book and now they
19:03
Speaker 1: are telling me, Joe, this is the greatest book ever.
19:06
Speaker 1: And they're sitting right here today like nodding along with me.
19:09
Speaker 1: This is a book that we are very much in
19:11
Speaker 1: anticipation of. I want to also ask Rachel if somebody's
19:20
Speaker 1: watching this program and they really love what you're saying,
19:22
Speaker 1: and they just but they've got more questions because obviously
19:25
Speaker 1: these shows cannot be tailored to the bioindividual viewer. Sometimes
19:30
Speaker 1: people will learn something profound and it'll be the one
19:32
Speaker 1: little nugget that we just drive by and it's the
19:35
Speaker 1: one thing they grasp onto and they go research and
19:37
Speaker 1: it's paradigm shifting. We pray for that. But a lot
19:40
Speaker 1: of times, you know, people do need kind of professional intervention,
19:45
Speaker 1: they need coaching. They're in over their heads. There's a
19:47
Speaker 1: lot of reading. They themselves don't have a background in academia.
19:50
Speaker 1: They don't know how to read scientific journals and make
19:52
Speaker 1: that translate today themselves. If somebody wanted to reach out
19:56
Speaker 1: to you, you do remote I do a lot of doctors. Yeah, okay,
20:01
Speaker 1: how would somebody follow up with you?
20:03
Speaker 2: I'm really easy to find. My website is doctor shuck
20:06
Speaker 2: dot com.
20:07
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll put that up on the screen so you
20:09
Speaker 1: know exactly where to go.
20:10
Speaker 2: Phone numbers on their email contacts on there, all of
20:12
Speaker 2: that's on there. And you know, I also want to say,
20:14
Speaker 2: when you said that about you know, people don't maybe
20:17
Speaker 2: know how to read the scientific journals.
20:19
Speaker 3: I got a lie of clients who probably actually do
20:21
Speaker 3: know how to read those. They don't have the time.
20:23
Speaker 2: I'm going to hire an attorney if I need legal
20:26
Speaker 2: work done, because could I go eventually figure it out myself? Yeah,
20:29
Speaker 2: I could fumble my way through it, But my goodness,
20:32
Speaker 2: that would be nuts when I could just, you know,
20:35
Speaker 2: have the expert who's already done the research, has the practice,
20:38
Speaker 2: knows what works, knows what doesn't.
20:39
Speaker 1: Clients that are coming to you, what are they saying?
20:42
Speaker 1: What are some of your experiences When you have people
20:44
Speaker 1: walk in. I'm assuming that a lot of your clients
20:47
Speaker 1: have done the allopathic medicine train. They feel like they're
20:50
Speaker 1: and I'm sure one of the opening moves Rachel is
20:52
Speaker 1: I've tried everything right. It seems like a lot of
20:55
Speaker 1: my practitioner friends, that's one of the opening statements. They
20:58
Speaker 1: get a lot as I've tried everything, they're almost turning
21:00
Speaker 1: to natural medicine is kind of a last hope, like
21:03
Speaker 1: I've done everything else, nothing works. Can you fix me?
21:06
Speaker 1: Or can this thing work? You're seeing good results, You're
21:10
Speaker 1: seeing natural medicine payoff. You're seeing people willing to take
21:12
Speaker 1: the personal responsibility.
21:14
Speaker 3: Yes right, yes, advocate.
21:16
Speaker 1: For themselves to do the work. What kind of outcomes
21:19
Speaker 1: you see.
21:19
Speaker 2: I see a lot of people who have IBS issues,
21:22
Speaker 2: So that's ertel bal syndrome. Whether it's the constipation, whether
21:25
Speaker 2: it's the diarrhea, whether it's the mix of the two
21:28
Speaker 2: we can very often those get resolved when we remove
21:32
Speaker 2: the medications and we heal the gut. That is something
21:35
Speaker 2: huge I see all the time. The other piece to
21:38
Speaker 2: that that I see in a lot of clients is
21:40
Speaker 2: the blood share issues get fixed when we clean up
21:42
Speaker 2: the diet. They're no longer needing diabetic medication, they're no
21:45
Speaker 2: longer needing to you know, pop all the other medications
21:49
Speaker 2: that come along with that. Kind of a fun, little
21:51
Speaker 2: one off story. I have a client who is so
21:54
Speaker 2: proud of his toenail fungus going away and this was
21:58
Speaker 2: just a sign of it. But when you have high
21:59
Speaker 2: blood sugar fungal infections, that's where they live, they thrive.
22:02
Speaker 3: So he's sent me pictures. He's like, look at this growth.
22:05
Speaker 2: This is the new clear piece, and look how good
22:07
Speaker 2: my metabolism now you can see.
22:09
Speaker 3: And I think I'm gonna make a video on that.
22:11
Speaker 1: But I do know what you mean though. People have
22:15
Speaker 1: sent me pictures. Yeah, and ones that I didn't solicit
22:18
Speaker 1: for and it's what's still in the porcelain, thrown after
22:21
Speaker 1: they had a momentum. Yeah, what do you make of this? Man?
22:23
Speaker 1: What do I gotta do? Okay? And I would love
22:28
Speaker 1: to tell you I'm unbothered by it. But we have
22:30
Speaker 1: some great doctors. Doctor Ann Hines, she's a great doctor.
22:33
Speaker 1: She's a naturopath. She has said the same thing. You know,
22:35
Speaker 1: you're if you're in practicing natural medicine of any kind whatsoever,
22:38
Speaker 1: you're gonna get pictures. Yeah, it's just a side effect.
22:40
Speaker 1: People want you to see their progress or the problem
22:43
Speaker 1: they had.
22:43
Speaker 2: I did have one client who drank beats and had
22:46
Speaker 2: a huge freak out. Because of course, you don't unless
22:49
Speaker 2: you've done it, you don't know that that's going to
22:50
Speaker 2: look like a bloody stool.
22:52
Speaker 3: That was what I didn't want.
22:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, a moment ago, you mentioned medications and getting them
22:58
Speaker 1: off of medications, and you'll have people want the show
23:00
Speaker 1: say immediately, well, there are certain medications I just can't
23:03
Speaker 1: live without, and I'm done with this. My doctor has
23:05
Speaker 1: made it very clear I will literally cease to exist
23:08
Speaker 1: if I don't have these medications. And I'm not asking
23:10
Speaker 1: you to blanket, shotgun blast a television audience irresponsibly with
23:14
Speaker 1: some generic advice like, yes, get off all of your medications,
23:18
Speaker 1: but a lot of medications damage our ability to receive nourishment,
23:22
Speaker 1: which just make our problems worse, but we are told
23:25
Speaker 1: we cannot live without them. Yeah, you think that some
23:28
Speaker 1: of these medications may be contributing to people's issues, right.
23:32
Speaker 2: I absolutely do, And I think one of the best
23:35
Speaker 2: things people can do for themselves is become informed. Take
23:39
Speaker 2: out the product monograph and read what it says this
23:43
Speaker 2: medication is doing to you. Because a lot of people
23:47
Speaker 2: think this is healing them. Symptom suppression is not healing.
23:51
Speaker 2: And the other thing that happens. I will get people
23:54
Speaker 2: come into my office who have researched oxolates, lectans, fightates.
23:57
Speaker 2: They're afraid I'm going to ask them to eat foods
24:00
Speaker 2: contain these naturally occurring chemicals. But they will pop a
24:03
Speaker 2: pharmaceutical pill for twenty plus years because they trust And
24:07
Speaker 2: I understand because the trust has been built because they
24:09
Speaker 2: trust their doctor and they think it can't hurt them.
24:12
Speaker 2: And everything that goes into our body is going to
24:14
Speaker 2: impact us.
24:16
Speaker 3: You know that's exactly right.
24:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're right. A lot of people and I
24:21
Speaker 1: see this. Can I deal with the church for just
24:23
Speaker 1: a minute, Is that okay? But the church is the
24:26
Speaker 1: self proclaimed body of Christ. A lot of them meet
24:29
Speaker 1: inside of four walls painted white with a cross in
24:31
Speaker 1: the front of the building. And people that are leading
24:34
Speaker 1: these churches, folks, they have no knowledge whatsoever of metabolic
24:39
Speaker 1: health or gut health. Nothing. Right, They're on two to
24:42
Speaker 1: three medications, maybe they're pre diabetic or type two diabetic,
24:46
Speaker 1: or they've got all kinds they're taking, you know, pills
24:48
Speaker 1: for weight loss or injections for weight loss. And yet
24:51
Speaker 1: they will go talk about the Temple of the Holy Spirit, right, yeah,
24:56
Speaker 1: And I'm not mocking. This is the point I'm making.
24:59
Speaker 1: There is a knowledge disparity here that has been a
25:02
Speaker 1: part of our culture for so many decades, that people
25:06
Speaker 1: take for granted completely what health actually looks like, because
25:10
Speaker 1: they think it's eating three meals a day from the
25:12
Speaker 1: four food groups and taking your medications. When you get
25:14
Speaker 1: to that age where the doctor says these are normal
25:17
Speaker 1: things and now we're going to manage disease and decline,
25:19
Speaker 1: and they will drive straight to a buffet after church
25:23
Speaker 1: and drink diet sodas and you know, pastries on the
25:27
Speaker 1: side and all the various carbs that they want and
25:31
Speaker 1: all the way to capacity. When they can't go like
25:34
Speaker 1: this and push any more food past their thyroid they're full,
25:38
Speaker 1: and that's their relationship to health. Yeah, do you see that?
25:41
Speaker 3: Yeah?
25:42
Speaker 2: I think they truly they don't know any about art.
25:44
Speaker 1: They don't.
25:45
Speaker 2: There's no judgment there. And I actually want to kind
25:47
Speaker 2: of go back to that because I get a lot
25:49
Speaker 2: of comments with I mentioned like the oxylates and the
25:52
Speaker 2: phytates and the e lectins, and I get a lot
25:54
Speaker 2: of people who get very worked up about that special
25:57
Speaker 2: on social media, and there's so much again not knowing.
26:01
Speaker 2: Our guts, naturally are designed to contain a bacteria called
26:05
Speaker 2: oxalobacter forma genes. It's there to break down oxalates in
26:09
Speaker 2: our food. But when we've wiped out our gut, now
26:13
Speaker 2: we can't eat foods that we were designed to eat.
26:16
Speaker 1: Do you think that's why so many people end up
26:17
Speaker 1: with food sensitivities?
26:19
Speaker 2: Oh?
26:19
Speaker 3: I absolutely think that's.
26:20
Speaker 1: They eliminate it, Yeah, like two or three things, and
26:22
Speaker 1: then but then they can't eat and then a year later,
26:25
Speaker 1: you know, they now they can't eat this thing, and
26:27
Speaker 1: then they eliminate that, and then six and now I'm
26:29
Speaker 1: too sensitive, I can't even that, And pretty soon like
26:32
Speaker 1: they've got this little itty bitty list of things. It's
26:34
Speaker 1: their last bastion of anything, and.
26:36
Speaker 2: To me, that's not healing. The goal is sometimes we
26:39
Speaker 2: do have to take it down.
26:41
Speaker 1: But then the good halftime.
26:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the goal is to grow it back
26:44
Speaker 2: out so that you are able to eat a variety
26:48
Speaker 2: of foods and enjoy. We're meant to enjoy food. Food
26:51
Speaker 2: is definitely a cultural community. Food is not bad, Food
26:55
Speaker 2: is great. We just got to eat real food.
26:57
Speaker 1: Food. The right food is medicine.
26:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.
26:58
Speaker 4: I think that's why Mike was so messed up because
27:01
Speaker 4: of all the years of yo yo dieting. We're going
27:02
Speaker 4: to do nine months of no carbs and now all
27:05
Speaker 4: of a sudden, we're just gonna eat plant foods and
27:07
Speaker 4: nothing else. And I was so all over the place.
27:10
Speaker 4: And of course in the beginning, low fat and we're
27:13
Speaker 4: counting calories and so I can see how this is
27:17
Speaker 4: happening along with pesticides and antibiotics, and it's just accumulatively
27:22
Speaker 4: affecting our guts today.
27:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Rachel, It's been such a great time having
27:27
Speaker 1: you here. It Life TV now, don't you guys love
27:29
Speaker 1: Doctor Rachel Shuck. With about thirty seconds left, is there
27:35
Speaker 1: anything you want to leave our viewers with?
27:37
Speaker 2: Before we adjourn, I want people to know food truly
27:40
Speaker 2: is medicine. But you are not what you eat, you
27:43
Speaker 2: are what you absorb.
27:44
Speaker 1: That's great. Couldn't have said it better myself. We will
27:50
Speaker 1: have to have you back. We would have to have
27:52
Speaker 1: you back at some point, ladies and gentlemen. Unfortunately we're
27:54
Speaker 1: all out of time for everybody here in studio, Doctor
27:57
Speaker 1: Rachel Shuck, Jamie, Well, thank you so much for being
28:00
Speaker 1: right here at Life TV Now again this week. Keep
28:02
Speaker 1: your eyes on the prize, which is Jesus Christ. We'll
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