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- 6:32Speaker 1: It's like Marty. We don't want son to see too
- 6:37Speaker 1: much without Marty.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Just my son had been in three Monty Bro. Wow,
- 6:44Speaker 2: better version. He got mad beads. I'll show you the
- 6:51Speaker 2: picture with men the Hello beads.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, let's get straight what man can Ohio?
- 7:01Speaker 2: You had a high school seam with a lot of
- 7:03Speaker 2: pros on there. That is crazy.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Also, you have the famous picture of you playing basketball
- 7:07Speaker 1: when he looked like he was like eight years old,
- 7:08Speaker 1: which he was a teenager.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Varsi When did you start playing Varsiti basketball? Bro?
- 7:13Speaker 4: So actually I played my freshman year. So my brother
- 7:15Speaker 4: was the starting point guard. He was a senior, and
- 7:18Speaker 4: obviously I wasn't gonna take big bro spot. Like big
- 7:20Speaker 4: brother was nice. He's still playing to this days in
- 7:22Speaker 4: Galatasaray in Turkey.
- 7:24Speaker 2: This is like year sixteen.
- 7:25Speaker 1: I think for him Goshen legend, you know, Gosh and
- 7:28Speaker 1: Goshen College legend, but purple.
- 7:29Speaker 4: And white, purple and white. He he was the starting
- 7:32Speaker 4: point guard. So I played three quarters JV, two quarters varsity.
- 7:35Speaker 4: So in Ohio you had the five five quarter rule.
- 7:38Speaker 4: So I averaged about twenty and three quarters on JV
- 7:40Speaker 4: and then I played some games, some games I wouldn't
- 7:42Speaker 4: play on varsity.
- 7:44Speaker 2: But it was just a really cool experience playing with
- 7:46Speaker 2: my big bro.
- 7:47Speaker 4: Obviously, Coof was on the team COEs to Kufas and
- 7:51Speaker 4: still our good friend to this day, friends with his family,
- 7:53Speaker 4: and good dude, worked hard, obviously had a great career.
- 7:58Speaker 2: I was really fortunate Bro.
- 7:59Speaker 4: I was only like five too, so I had the handles,
- 8:01Speaker 4: had to jumper, had that stuff, but I was just
- 8:03Speaker 4: too small, and eventually God gave me a little bit
- 8:06Speaker 4: of height and some gracing. I tried to run with it.
- 8:09Speaker 4: When'd you hit that spurt? So I was I was
- 8:11Speaker 4: five to my freshman year. I was five seven my
- 8:14Speaker 4: sophomore year, and then I grew to five eleven. When
- 8:16Speaker 4: I committed to Lehigh, I was actually five eleven. Then
- 8:18Speaker 4: I played my senior year out of six to two.
- 8:20Speaker 4: Then I got to like six three and a half.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Damn we did that natural no shot.
- 8:27Speaker 4: Still skinny nose shot. And I prayed. I pray before
- 8:29Speaker 4: I go to sleep every night. Still do I stretch
- 8:31Speaker 4: before I go to sleeping. And God looked at my
- 8:34Speaker 4: dad graduated high school with five seven. He's six three now,
- 8:36Speaker 4: So I was just like, God, please don't let me
- 8:39Speaker 4: graduate high school with five seven.
- 8:41Speaker 3: My prayers must have been going to voicemail.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Too, Because I was five eleven eighth grade. I thought
- 8:48Speaker 1: I was gonna be like six five. Rudough Bro wants
- 8:52Speaker 1: to six.
- 8:53Speaker 2: But he was athletic early though.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I was with like five nine and
- 8:57Speaker 1: seventh grade, five eleven eighth grade, six foot freshman year.
- 9:01Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it was oh, when I hut your
- 9:05Speaker 2: first boom in the game.
- 9:07Speaker 4: My senior year high school, got my first done a
- 9:09Speaker 4: little light one hand joint barely, you know, barely go there.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Package seventh was athletic earlier. I wish I.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Would have started a little later that ship. These needs
- 9:22Speaker 1: are shot. You got a hell of a store. You've
- 9:25Speaker 1: been well, you believed in yourself.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Five tooloys still got a scholarship to a nice school.
- 9:33Speaker 1: Like crazy, bro, what you said at five eleven? I
- 9:36Speaker 1: committed verbal to le High.
- 9:37Speaker 4: I was five eleven, and then when I got there,
- 9:40Speaker 4: they was looking like and I was like, I crew
- 9:43Speaker 4: a little bit.
- 9:44Speaker 2: And I was six two. Then I was six three
- 9:45Speaker 2: when the season started.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, if you were six to
- 9:49Speaker 1: your senior year, going to your senior year, you think
- 9:50Speaker 1: you would have want to Lee High. No, I love
- 9:53Speaker 1: I love High. It's the best thing to ever happened
- 9:57Speaker 1: to me. I met my wife there, Like everything was
- 9:59Speaker 1: how it was suppose was to organically, it was a
- 10:01Speaker 1: great decision.
- 10:02Speaker 2: But Penn State was recruiting me. Notre Dame was recruiting me.
- 10:05Speaker 4: I was getting recruited by some I call them football
- 10:09Speaker 4: schools right like good like good school, maybe not the
- 10:12Speaker 4: top of the conference.
- 10:13Speaker 2: At the time, I was how State those schools were better.
- 10:16Speaker 4: Notre Dame was recruiting me, and I wanted to go
- 10:18Speaker 4: to a school that played against good teams.
- 10:19Speaker 2: But like I had a chance to like you tick,
- 10:21Speaker 2: and if I was a little.
- 10:22Speaker 4: Bit tall, a little bit stronger earlier, they probably would
- 10:25Speaker 4: have offered me. I always joked Tim Fraser, shout of
- 10:27Speaker 4: my guy, Tim. He stole my scholarship in State Bill Edwards.
- 10:34Speaker 4: It worked out I wassed to if I was taller earlier,
- 10:38Speaker 4: Like I think, things probably would have been different, But
- 10:40Speaker 4: my story might have ended differently too, Like my development
- 10:43Speaker 4: going to Lehigh allowed me to do everything right, Like
- 10:46Speaker 4: I had to read the past, I had the guard
- 10:48Speaker 4: I had to I had to really take advantage of
- 10:51Speaker 4: every day because you're only gonna play a couple of
- 10:53Speaker 4: big schools a year and you be judged on that.
- 10:55Speaker 2: So it really helped my development.
- 10:56Speaker 4: The school was obviously it was hard, Like academic was tough,
- 11:01Speaker 4: like you can only you only miss three classes for
- 11:03Speaker 4: the year, they dropped from the class, so like damn, yeah,
- 11:05Speaker 4: it was really strict.
- 11:06Speaker 2: We had like real rules.
- 11:07Speaker 4: I was taking exams in the road, I had I
- 11:10Speaker 4: had exam proctor during the NCAA tournament, like it was real,
- 11:12Speaker 4: like academics first, sports a second. So that kind of
- 11:16Speaker 4: trained me like mentally to kind of be more on
- 11:18Speaker 4: the business side of understanding life beyond basketball.
- 11:21Speaker 1: So your professor saw what you did in the conference Heurney,
- 11:24Speaker 1: and decided that she was still gonna have.
- 11:26Speaker 2: A paper due or a test. Dude.
- 11:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we beat Duke and I think I
- 11:29Speaker 4: had exam proctor like the date the next day.
- 11:31Speaker 2: You know that's crazy. We were supposed to make it
- 11:34Speaker 2: broke place.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Walk to house right now because I want to talk
- 11:38Speaker 1: about this. This is one of my favorite basketball highlights
- 11:39Speaker 1: of all time because I am a prime Duke hater,
- 11:42Speaker 1: so I appreciate the works you put on them front.
- 11:44Speaker 2: You mean to tell me that you did this?
- 11:46Speaker 1: You're always want to play this because this Stone Sports
- 11:49Speaker 1: is my god, it's the regular broadcast. But yeah, mad work,
- 11:52Speaker 1: you did this the Duke. I had to go take
- 11:53Speaker 1: a test. That's crazy. Oh yeah, push that they didn't care.
- 11:56Speaker 1: That's crazy.
- 11:57Speaker 4: I didn't get a standing u standing ovation of applause
- 12:00Speaker 4: in every classroom after that though.
- 12:01Speaker 2: That was dope. Not that's hard lay tough bag work.
- 12:06Speaker 3: How much you went right there?
- 12:07Speaker 1: But one of my favorite crossover that's when I was like, yeah,
- 12:12Speaker 1: I remember this game. I was like, whoever that dude is,
- 12:15Speaker 1: he is out of here. Crazy, like this is one
- 12:20Speaker 1: of my favorite basketball is all bad work.
- 12:23Speaker 4: Yeah, this put me on the map right here. This
- 12:24Speaker 4: gave me a chance to play on the big stage.
- 12:26Speaker 4: And I always hated Duke. They never recruited me. I
- 12:28Speaker 4: wanted to go to North Carolina anyway, so I wouldn't
- 12:30Speaker 4: have went there. But my boy, a lot of respect
- 12:34Speaker 4: for coach Cato in the organization and just how they
- 12:36Speaker 4: do things. I never liked du So this was really
- 12:39Speaker 4: personal for me.
- 12:39Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. That makes me like love this
- 12:42Speaker 1: even more. You didn't like them and gave them the
- 12:45Speaker 1: work out that and system to fuck home.
- 12:46Speaker 3: I love that when we talk about you all the time, bro,
- 12:49Speaker 3: Like that's why this is organic because he always said,
- 12:51Speaker 3: like go where you get an opportunity, because you never
- 12:53Speaker 3: know what can happen. You know what I mean? You
- 12:54Speaker 3: catch from mom like this fun around really changed your
- 12:57Speaker 3: life forever for real.
- 12:59Speaker 4: It's like this is the most nervous I've ever been
- 13:01Speaker 4: for a game in my life because I knew so
- 13:03Speaker 4: much was at stake now, Like you obviously playing games
- 13:05Speaker 4: and you you know butterflies to jitters, but like for this,
- 13:08Speaker 4: I was like they gonna judge me on this Like
- 13:10Speaker 4: if I hoop, well, they're gonna be like he's a gamer.
- 13:13Speaker 4: If I don't, they gonna say he don't show up
- 13:14Speaker 4: in big moments. So you knew, like the pressure was amplified.
- 13:17Speaker 2: I was like I might not get back.
- 13:18Speaker 4: I got back my freshman year we played Kansas, and
- 13:20Speaker 4: I was like I might not make it back. And
- 13:22Speaker 4: sure enough I got hurt my senior year, so I
- 13:24Speaker 4: didn't make it back.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Wow, that was That's a big moment. Bro.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Yah, he killed that moment.
- 13:31Speaker 1: And that's when I started saying, like, dang, I think
- 13:33Speaker 1: guys they go to smaller schools, they become better players
- 13:36Speaker 1: because they got to do more. So like like you, Steph, Dang,
- 13:40Speaker 1: Like when I watch y'all play basketball, y'all can make
- 13:42Speaker 1: the toughest shots because y'all got seen two defenders all
- 13:46Speaker 1: the time, and now when y'all get to the NBA,
- 13:49Speaker 1: it's one on one. You'll staying a chance. So I
- 13:51Speaker 1: used to tell myself, like, no wonder I can't create
- 13:54Speaker 1: like these foods because I was like, I could score,
- 14:00Speaker 1: but like these fools is signed stuff shoot over, I'm
- 14:03Speaker 1: likely putting a lot of work. They had to do
- 14:05Speaker 1: that for their team to be successful. So always come
- 14:08Speaker 1: in people who went to smaller schools and putting more work, y'all.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all deserved it.
- 14:12Speaker 4: Look we appreciated it, like a lot of times we
- 14:14Speaker 4: just weren't good in it. Like I was good halfway
- 14:17Speaker 4: through my freshman year. I belonged and I deserved it.
- 14:19Speaker 4: But a lot of y'all developed faster, y'all, more athletic,
- 14:22Speaker 4: y'all quicker. You got the exposure, ob so you guys
- 14:24Speaker 4: are better faster, So we're chasing that. And I think
- 14:27Speaker 4: for a lot of small school guys, it's like you
- 14:29Speaker 4: envious of the big schools because of the resources.
- 14:32Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have, Like I didn't have.
- 14:34Speaker 4: Gym access all the time, like food clothes at seven
- 14:37Speaker 4: or eight, you know what I mean, Like food clothes,
- 14:45Speaker 4: sneaking in the gym, Like it's all those things. And
- 14:46Speaker 4: you see them playing on TV all the shoes, like
- 14:48Speaker 4: everything is like, yeah, you want that life. So when
- 14:52Speaker 4: you get a chance to play against a big school,
- 14:54Speaker 4: it's like it's personal because you don't know what I
- 14:55Speaker 4: went through.
- 14:56Speaker 2: You'll know what I'm going through on the day to day.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Like y'all out here y'all got your own chefs, y'all
- 15:00Speaker 4: this I got your own houses, dorms, cars like you
- 15:03Speaker 4: have all this stuff, and we out here like really
- 15:04Speaker 4: fighting for our lives.
- 15:06Speaker 1: It's like a little better version of y'all because we
- 15:09Speaker 1: ain't have You could go to the gym, but you
- 15:11Speaker 1: had to share with the girls, but we ain't have
- 15:14Speaker 1: our stuff closed A seven too, and you know it's
- 15:16Speaker 1: a but yeah, I mean what state across street? I was,
- 15:23Speaker 1: it's some food over there, that's what right now you
- 15:25Speaker 1: get your six pieces.
- 15:26Speaker 3: And over there for sure.
- 15:28Speaker 1: For sure, I used to barbecue because that you feel
- 15:31Speaker 1: me the rise and gravy over there.
- 15:36Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great experience.
- 15:37Speaker 4: But like in terms of like is in a different
- 15:40Speaker 4: place now at that point in time, you know, it's ice,
- 15:42Speaker 4: bass and trash cans, it's all of that stuff.
- 15:44Speaker 2: But I think it just teaches you a greater appreciation.
- 15:49Speaker 4: That is really going through the major guys, the stories
- 15:52Speaker 4: you hear like it's it's real. And when you get
- 15:54Speaker 4: a chance to play against these schools and obviously you
- 15:56Speaker 4: know has changed the game completely, but like it's personal
- 15:59Speaker 4: on so many levels. You see the rankings, you envious
- 16:02Speaker 4: of the team, the situation they play on TV every
- 16:04Speaker 4: night like you get in CBS college sports, they on CBS.
- 16:07Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, It's just like so many
- 16:09Speaker 4: little things that piss you off. Or he's like, this
- 16:11Speaker 4: is I gotta I gotta really show him.
- 16:12Speaker 2: I got to show him.
- 16:13Speaker 3: I was with shelving every day. Bro Butler, he going
- 16:16Speaker 3: through the same the ice tub and the bad I mean,
- 16:20Speaker 3: trash can that's a little big joint, that's that's a
- 16:26Speaker 3: little Yeah. I don't know, I was doing that, but
- 16:28Speaker 3: it was bad, you know, on the small campus the
- 16:31Speaker 3: resources was and then once they made it, Bro Butler
- 16:33Speaker 3: looked like a whole new place.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on campus. Tuition went up so much
- 16:36Speaker 1: money them two years. I went to national championship back
- 16:38Speaker 1: to back. It was a totally different place. But I
- 16:40Speaker 1: mean that's a successful but I mean obviously, like you said,
- 16:42Speaker 1: after you get on TV and smack Dukap Lee get
- 16:45Speaker 1: a little bit more funny.
- 16:46Speaker 4: And funding was never an issue. That just was it
- 16:48Speaker 4: was going to wrestling, and damn you know like wrestling.
- 16:54Speaker 2: I'll give it.
- 17:04Speaker 4: Our wrestled is rank in the country. Every we had,
- 17:05Speaker 4: like the Zachary we had like the best wrestlers.
- 17:08Speaker 2: I'm gonna press up everybody. It's twenty thousand.
- 17:10Speaker 4: It's twenty thirty thousand that they they little nationally matches
- 17:13Speaker 4: like it's real life.
- 17:14Speaker 3: It's twenty thousand of the wrestle of the match.
- 17:16Speaker 2: They're cold blooded like them boys is calar flower? All
- 17:19Speaker 2: of that? They clowning?
- 17:20Speaker 1: Wow?
- 17:21Speaker 3: Respect respect to them.
- 17:22Speaker 2: Respect, Like we didn't just say he's a wrestler.
- 17:25Speaker 1: He was a wrestler. We have him his record, what
- 17:27Speaker 1: was your record? A lot of losses they used to
- 17:30Speaker 1: make him do it?
- 17:31Speaker 2: Well, yeah, beats on the crazy. Yeah wow, we was
- 17:43Speaker 2: Barbie work today.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Man.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Okay, in the New Year, we should have had a
- 17:49Speaker 2: we should have had a glass of that we get
- 17:51Speaker 2: that could have definitely had a.
- 17:53Speaker 3: Glass with that.
- 17:55Speaker 2: All what we got today bart c J on the logo.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Okay, another tropical drink so we can act like we're
- 18:05Speaker 1: not in the code.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I feel like I'm on vacation. Okay,
- 18:11Speaker 2: you put it down if it's too much.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we got a game them all, Well,
- 18:17Speaker 1: got nothing to do, but I ain't gonna drink all
- 18:20Speaker 1: of it.
- 18:20Speaker 2: But then put hair on your chest.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Oh yeah, speaking you got your own wine man, How
- 18:24Speaker 1: did that come about?
- 18:25Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife introduced me to wine in college and
- 18:29Speaker 4: shout out to my wife at Lehigh University. But obviously
- 18:33Speaker 4: getting drafted to Portland trub Blazers just kind of changed
- 18:36Speaker 4: my outlook on things, right, like seeing what was out there,
- 18:39Speaker 4: obviously seeing wine country, the mountains, the water, all those
- 18:41Speaker 4: things that you don't have in Canton, Ohio. It just
- 18:44Speaker 4: kind of opened my eyes to something else. But for us,
- 18:46Speaker 4: it's about legacy. Was about you know, establishing roots and
- 18:49Speaker 4: a place that we'll probably call home forever. It's like
- 18:52Speaker 4: the home away from home forever and gives us a foundation,
- 18:54Speaker 4: a place to raise our kids because it's something to
- 18:56Speaker 4: pass down and this is a space that it's not
- 18:59Speaker 4: like people that look like us in this space, and
- 19:01Speaker 4: it wasn't historically.
- 19:02Speaker 2: It's a hard, hard barrier of entry.
- 19:04Speaker 4: And for us to have our own land, our own
- 19:06Speaker 4: water rights, believe to grow our own fruit. We obviously
- 19:08Speaker 4: sell fruit as well and still buy fruit from our
- 19:10Speaker 4: partners I'll Shine and some other friends in the business.
- 19:13Speaker 4: It just gave us another lane and something that you know,
- 19:16Speaker 4: we're proud of that we could pass down to our kids.
- 19:17Speaker 4: But I actually enjoy wine, and I had to put
- 19:19Speaker 4: the liquor down just because of the in season, like
- 19:24Speaker 4: the trial, like how the inflammation, all those things it
- 19:26Speaker 4: does to the body. Obviously, when I was younger, it
- 19:27Speaker 4: was easy. Me and he could go out and drink
- 19:30Speaker 4: and he could go get fifty. But now it's that
- 19:33Speaker 4: the hangover is different. So for wine, it's just it's easier,
- 19:36Speaker 4: it's easily digestible for me, something that is more acceptable,
- 19:40Speaker 4: socially acceptable. You can drink wine with the GM the president,
- 19:43Speaker 4: the coaches, whereas you know, growing up early on in
- 19:47Speaker 4: your career was frowned upon. Now it's like we got
- 19:49Speaker 4: we got drink sponsors in the NBA now, so it's
- 19:51Speaker 4: like a different lane for us. But I just love celebrations.
- 19:54Speaker 4: I love being with people breaking bread. Always say you
- 19:57Speaker 4: might have had bad wine, but you never had a
- 19:59Speaker 4: bad time can wine, right, So those are just like
- 20:02Speaker 4: cool elements and things that we just try to bring
- 20:04Speaker 4: out the people in.
- 20:05Speaker 2: We just got distribution.
- 20:06Speaker 4: I think we're in like nine states now, so distributing
- 20:09Speaker 4: in you know, East Coast, not here yet. Indiana's a
- 20:11Speaker 4: little tricky tough with liquor laws, but definitely you know
- 20:15Speaker 4: something that we're proud.
- 20:16Speaker 3: Of that which one of them is sweet?
- 20:19Speaker 2: That's the rose?
- 20:21Speaker 4: You like the rose? I think you would like it.
- 20:23Speaker 4: That's a lot of guys in the league like it.
- 20:26Speaker 4: Obviously it's cold here right now, but you can drink
- 20:28Speaker 4: rose year for sure.
- 20:29Speaker 1: What I was saying, what's the name up again? Mccum harrison,
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- 20:42Speaker 4: We'll have some some Christmas deals for everybody, and you know,
- 20:45Speaker 4: we'll do some some creative shipping things for those that
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- 22:08Speaker 2: Our instruction one was different.
- 22:10Speaker 3: Yeah, but you had wide I roll. Yeah, that's a
- 22:14Speaker 3: that's a soft red. Yeah, soft red, easy on the palette,
- 22:21Speaker 3: like digestible. I don't know.
- 22:23Speaker 2: That's how did you feel?
- 22:24Speaker 3: That's dependable on the body. Okay, well I got little
- 22:28Speaker 3: calic over here, so I was there.
- 22:30Speaker 1: One wide in front of the store was like just
- 22:32Speaker 1: the one to get here. He said it was too fifty.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Then we had Carlos ROSSI yeah, yeah, pre game legendary,
- 22:42Speaker 1: you know.
- 22:42Speaker 3: So now you got the that's a steakhouse one. Yeah.
- 22:45Speaker 4: Yeah, we're Stus boutique restaurants, boutique. We're in four seasons
- 22:49Speaker 4: in d C. That's this is enjoying. I was on
- 22:52Speaker 4: the nouveau, but we all like I was at I
- 23:04Speaker 4: was at Lee High. I don't drink beer, so I
- 23:06Speaker 4: was playing beer ponll with liquor like you know.
- 23:09Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I knew. But eventially you gotta transition
- 23:15Speaker 1: and you got to grow up at some point. If
- 23:17Speaker 1: I didn't hoop, like I still like my calenar, I
- 23:19Speaker 1: still drink whiskey. And Kognak, But like when I got
- 23:21Speaker 1: a game, it's just a different It's a different animal.
- 23:24Speaker 1: These young boys, you know, they more athletic, the faster, quicker.
- 23:27Speaker 2: It's more space.
- 23:29Speaker 3: You know.
- 23:29Speaker 1: When we first got into the league, you play with
- 23:30Speaker 1: traditional forces and lives where you can kind of rest,
- 23:33Speaker 1: like throw the get your a little dig and get
- 23:36Speaker 1: out of the way. Your guard in the point guard, he
- 23:38Speaker 1: just gonna cut through. You're like cool, chilling now it's yeah.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
- 23:46Speaker 3: So how was that draft process though for you? Though?
- 23:50Speaker 3: Was it different? Like how many teams did you try
- 23:53Speaker 3: out for? How was that?
- 23:54Speaker 1: So?
- 23:55Speaker 4: I was projected lottery pick. I ended up breaking my
- 23:56Speaker 4: foot my senior year. So I go back to school
- 23:59Speaker 4: for my senior year. I'm playing really well. I was
- 24:02Speaker 4: preseason first team All American. I did all that stuff,
- 24:04Speaker 4: Lebron skills everything. So it's like this is the first
- 24:07Speaker 4: time where like you go from the hunter to the hunted,
- 24:09Speaker 4: Like I was a hunter in my whole life, right,
- 24:11Speaker 4: and then I was like, damn, my preseason All American
- 24:13Speaker 4: Like this is crazy. One of the magazines like yeah,
- 24:15Speaker 4: I came out and I was killing. Then I broke
- 24:17Speaker 4: my foot against VCU and I missed the rest of
- 24:20Speaker 4: my senior year, so pre draft for me was like
- 24:22Speaker 4: a chance to show that I was healthy. I broke
- 24:24Speaker 4: my foot, so I was coming up a foot fracture,
- 24:25Speaker 4: so I had to show I was healthy, show I
- 24:27Speaker 4: could still create score Like the biggest thing was like
- 24:29Speaker 4: can he score on this level?
- 24:31Speaker 2: Like will he be able to still have shot creation?
- 24:33Speaker 4: He's sure not fast, he's not super athletic, he's not
- 24:37Speaker 4: a point guard. He can't create for others. Does he
- 24:39Speaker 4: play defense, can't defend outside of his position. So those
- 24:41Speaker 4: are the things that it was like hard to showing workouts.
- 24:43Speaker 4: But it was like I can get a bucket, so
- 24:45Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. Like I told him, I work out
- 24:46Speaker 4: against second round picks. I work out against guys that's
- 24:49Speaker 4: not get drafted. Bring the D two guys, line them up,
- 24:51Speaker 4: like I don't really care. So I wasn't running form people.
- 24:53Speaker 4: Some people wouldn't work out against me during pre draft.
- 24:56Speaker 4: They would kind of avoid the workouts and stuff like that,
- 24:58Speaker 4: but I did. I did, like twelve workouts I worked
- 25:02Speaker 4: out for Orlando had number two, and there's there's a
- 25:07Speaker 4: Lee High Lee High alumn that's high up there. So
- 25:09Speaker 4: it just made sense. Phoenix. I worked out for them.
- 25:13Speaker 4: I worked out for Sacramento twice. I worked out for
- 25:16Speaker 4: Portland Trailblazers, I worked out for the Sixers. I worked
- 25:19Speaker 4: out for Detroit, Minnesota, and Utah. So basically, like around
- 25:23Speaker 4: the lottery, Sacramento promised me. I actually thought I was
- 25:26Speaker 4: going to Sacramento at seven. Been mcklamore Felia at draft.
- 25:28Speaker 4: The draft got kind of mixed up. I think they
- 25:30Speaker 4: were splitting. They took Bim McLamore, Joe Joe D was
- 25:35Speaker 4: with Detroit. I thought they was gonna take me. They
- 25:37Speaker 4: took KCP because Joe D was the major guy. I
- 25:40Speaker 4: was like, take me, Nope. Blazer's basically said if I
- 25:43Speaker 4: was there at ten, they would take me. I almost
- 25:46Speaker 4: went to Philly at eleven. That was Michael Carter Williams
- 25:48Speaker 4: was eleven to Philly mc dub Oh, this is Marcus draft.
- 25:52Speaker 4: I think Marcus went the year before me. Oh you're
- 25:54Speaker 4: talking about yeah, he's at thirteen. Nah, he was like.
- 25:59Speaker 3: He was one night.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying like he was in twenty thirteen draft.
- 26:03Speaker 2: I don't remember. I mean it's that you're with Casey Fres,
- 26:06Speaker 2: Anthony Davids number one. No, that's Dames draft. So your
- 26:09Speaker 2: brother was, Yeah, he was in that draft.
- 26:14Speaker 3: He was a year raft.
- 26:16Speaker 4: Yeah, thirteen, Anthony been in correct, Anthony been at one.
- 26:18Speaker 4: Jannie is in that draft. Steven Adams, Kalia, lynok Uh Clinic,
- 26:25Speaker 4: Trey Burke trade from Columbus.
- 26:27Speaker 3: You should have won number one?
- 26:29Speaker 2: Yeah you Yeah, and scandalous as I was acting honest. Yeah,
- 26:36Speaker 2: he wasn't never going number one. We had him in
- 26:38Speaker 2: the basement. Nobody's seen that.
- 26:40Speaker 4: My brother played against Joannis and they said he was
- 26:41Speaker 4: whooping in the forces with the grass cutter forces.
- 26:44Speaker 2: The loss No, like the O g strap joints in.
- 26:48Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta gave him some more respect.
- 26:49Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know who knew he was gonna
- 26:51Speaker 1: be that good though. Kenny Akinson looks crazy. He showed
- 26:55Speaker 1: me filming this kid, Jannis, and was like, he's the
- 26:58Speaker 1: next superstar, said him. He like he can pass the
- 27:03Speaker 1: magic Johnson lebron I was like, hey, O, no, the
- 27:07Speaker 1: story you guys to see how long his arms are.
- 27:10Speaker 1: We're drafting, we're getting this bro. I didn't see. My
- 27:13Speaker 1: brother was like, he's not ready. He's a Project's gonna
- 27:15Speaker 1: take him some time. But but the transformation he made. Yeah,
- 27:20Speaker 1: come on, like he was mount nourished obviously. For sure,
- 27:23Speaker 1: he was ugly.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Bro was running and running the games. Here Bro spent
- 27:28Speaker 2: send all his money home. I seen he sent all
- 27:29Speaker 2: his money home. He had no car. He was running
- 27:31Speaker 2: the game and somebody stopped and picked him up. Yeah, Bro,
- 27:35Speaker 2: he everything.
- 27:36Speaker 1: He getting cut us out Chick fil A and became
- 27:39Speaker 1: one of the best players in his position of all time.
- 27:42Speaker 1: That is crazy shots, honest, man, fifty getting fifty piece
- 27:47Speaker 1: you drop fifty is still.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Literendary to be And he made all his free throws.
- 27:50Speaker 3: That was big.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Come on crazy, uh shouts my cousin Christmas. He always
- 27:54Speaker 1: he was early on you as a fair. He always
- 27:56Speaker 1: said he was like the prototype for like two guards.
- 27:59Speaker 1: He was just like if you're a guard as skill
- 28:01Speaker 1: to basketball, maybe not the most athletic, but everything you
- 28:04Speaker 1: can do on a basketball court translate. And it's like
- 28:06Speaker 1: your bag is so crazy, Like we just had a highlights,
- 28:08Speaker 1: Like where did you learn how to hoop? Like that
- 28:10Speaker 1: is that big Bro? Is that the fam or is
- 28:12Speaker 1: that just a product of being in the gym? That's
- 28:14Speaker 1: big Bro, for sure, it's the gym. It's creativity.
- 28:17Speaker 4: It's like I have a unique ability to be able
- 28:19Speaker 4: to watch stuff and pick it up and emulate it
- 28:20Speaker 4: right away. So I think that helps. Like I be
- 28:23Speaker 4: on YouTube stealing stuff. I still I watch a lot
- 28:26Speaker 4: of Kyrie. I watch a lot of old school stuff.
- 28:29Speaker 4: I watched Green Hill, I watched Team AC. I watch
- 28:32Speaker 4: a lot of footwork. So I watch it Hamilton. I
- 28:34Speaker 4: watch a lot of stuff and then I try to
- 28:35Speaker 4: emulate it, Like how do I create space? How do
- 28:37Speaker 4: I get separation? How do I get floats off? Left hand,
- 28:39Speaker 4: right hand? How do I get step backs? I stole
- 28:42Speaker 4: damn step back right, Like if I see it, I
- 28:44Speaker 4: like it, I'm taking it. Oh me, I shave got
- 28:47Speaker 4: a lot of you know that that that left foot
- 28:49Speaker 4: front stops to the step back, taking it like you
- 28:52Speaker 4: see something that you like. And it's like, how can
- 28:54Speaker 4: I get an advantage on the on the defense? How
- 28:56Speaker 4: do I add more? How do I get to the
- 28:57Speaker 4: free throw line more? It's the pump fakes. I've been
- 28:59Speaker 4: pumpaking lot late. Think got shot nine free throws last game,
- 29:02Speaker 4: but I was six and nine, so I gotta do
- 29:03Speaker 4: better than that. But it's like, how do you continue
- 29:06Speaker 4: to get better?
- 29:07Speaker 2: And the mister Chaos.
- 29:08Speaker 4: And as you age, right, yeah, as you age, you
- 29:09Speaker 4: got to be more efficient with everything. Sleep matters, hydration matters,
- 29:13Speaker 4: how you work when you work, do I work out
- 29:15Speaker 4: on it? Like today was a light day, but I
- 29:17Speaker 4: just you know, one hundred free throws, touch shots around
- 29:19Speaker 4: the basket. It's just like programming the mind and the
- 29:21Speaker 4: body to understand that, Like you don't have to always
- 29:24Speaker 4: do something hard. Sometimes it's thinking through, like how I
- 29:28Speaker 4: want this came to go tomorrow? With type of shots
- 29:29Speaker 4: am I going to get? I got young team, They fast,
- 29:32Speaker 4: they athletic. How do I fit into that? How do
- 29:34Speaker 4: I score in the half court when it's a bumping,
- 29:37Speaker 4: grind type of game. But I think it's my brother.
- 29:40Speaker 4: He taught me how to train. He taught me how
- 29:41Speaker 4: to think, He taught me how to prepare. He taught
- 29:44Speaker 4: me the importance of like every every aspect of basketball,
- 29:46Speaker 4: and it all stems around preparation.
- 29:48Speaker 1: And it was like this separator is to work and
- 29:50Speaker 1: the discipline. Everybody's not gonna work and everybody's not gonna
- 29:52Speaker 1: be disciplined. You can maintain that for the longer, longer
- 29:55Speaker 1: periods of time, You'll make as much money as you want,
- 29:57Speaker 1: for sure. Listen, I got a question for you. I
- 29:59Speaker 1: also thirty. Please get your food order. It is wicked
- 30:01Speaker 1: outside of that. Get your food in complete. They got
- 30:04Speaker 1: you out the gate. You talked about Chick fil A
- 30:06Speaker 1: being your cheap meal for today. Gang shit, you know
- 30:09Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That was the usual.
- 30:11Speaker 2: Like after heard him talking about situestion.
- 30:14Speaker 1: Nah, just hear him talk about preparation and all that.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Like I told you I was playing around the NBA.
- 30:20Speaker 2: But just nice.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Though I appreciate that you was nice, But like from that,
- 30:26Speaker 1: like I ain't have my big brother hoop. But my
- 30:29Speaker 1: big brother he played at Central State, but he ain't
- 30:31Speaker 1: played professional ball. He went to the workfield after basketball.
- 30:35Speaker 1: My dad played at Missouri.
- 30:37Speaker 2: He could hoop.
- 30:37Speaker 1: He played, but we didn't prepare like that my dad
- 30:40Speaker 1: like go hoop thing. But like to hear you be
- 30:43Speaker 1: like I got good sleep. I did that and I
- 30:46Speaker 1: lived in Atlanta. He wasn't sleeping in Atlanta. Nah.
- 30:49Speaker 2: I just showed up to the game.
- 30:51Speaker 3: Cause that's crazy.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Y'all know me though as well.
- 30:54Speaker 1: That was just me And like to hear him being
- 30:57Speaker 1: like that, like it made me feel bad all over here.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Like I hope my kids, I'm the school team. You
- 31:00Speaker 2: watch it.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Hear thisuse No, it's it's different tiers though. Look he
- 31:05Speaker 3: said he had a Luckily he had his brother to
- 31:07Speaker 3: give me the game.
- 31:08Speaker 2: I would have been left, like I would.
- 31:09Speaker 4: I would think that I was going to go left,
- 31:11Speaker 4: but he was there, Like God, God knew I needed that.
- 31:13Speaker 4: Like I have the discipline I had to work, I think,
- 31:16Speaker 4: but I needed somebody to push me. I need somebody
- 31:18Speaker 4: to show me the way and kind of teach me,
- 31:20Speaker 4: like this is what you have to do to be successful.
- 31:22Speaker 4: And he gave me the blueprint, like he kind of
- 31:25Speaker 4: whatever he did wrong, he was like, Okay, I did
- 31:27Speaker 4: these things wrong.
- 31:27Speaker 2: I did these things right.
- 31:28Speaker 4: I'm gonna teach you what I did right, and I'm
- 31:30Speaker 4: gonna stay away from what I did wrong. And he's like,
- 31:32Speaker 4: you got more time to me because you get to
- 31:33Speaker 4: watch me live this life first, so we got to
- 31:35Speaker 4: take advantage, like I'm gonna make the mistakes for us,
- 31:37Speaker 4: and then you got to learn from him. So it
- 31:39Speaker 4: was like if I fail this, because because I just failed,
- 31:42Speaker 4: he gave me everything I needed to succeed. I just
- 31:44Speaker 4: had to go do the work and have the mental
- 31:47Speaker 4: fortitude to push forward, but also circumstance matter, Situation matters,
- 31:50Speaker 4: Like I hit a Gros sperad at the right time,
- 31:52Speaker 4: I go to the right school, Like everything kind of
- 31:54Speaker 4: fell into place with hard work and prayer and just luck.
- 31:57Speaker 4: But I say all this to say that, like I
- 32:01Speaker 4: made a lot of mistakes, but my circumstances dictating my life.
- 32:03Speaker 4: Like I get drafted to Portland, it's nothing to do there. Yeah,
- 32:06Speaker 4: like you're good at your job. It's like Ohio growing
- 32:08Speaker 4: up in certain places, Like you're gonna be really good
- 32:10Speaker 4: at what you do if you lock in because there's
- 32:13Speaker 4: nothing to do, there's no real distraction. If iud got
- 32:16Speaker 4: drafted in Miami, I always joked like I might have been.
- 32:18Speaker 4: I might have made it to ten years, Like you
- 32:20Speaker 4: never know the circumstances of your situation. But like I was,
- 32:23Speaker 4: I was locked in immature because I had a mature brother,
- 32:26Speaker 4: and if he was immature, I would have been immature too.
- 32:28Speaker 4: But like he shaped, he shaped the work, and then
- 32:30Speaker 4: I seen his success. Then I was like, oh shit,
- 32:33Speaker 4: like this shit works.
- 32:35Speaker 1: You mean, tell me if I get up five hundred shots,
- 32:36Speaker 1: If I get five hundred makes I'm hit eight threes
- 32:39Speaker 1: and that's how I was that way forwards. It wasn't
- 32:41Speaker 1: nothing to do, so I lived in the gym. But
- 32:44Speaker 1: when I got to Atlanta, Atlanta different clearly I went
- 32:49Speaker 1: to the gym, but like, yeah, it wasn't the same.
- 32:53Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't when I wasn't playing, I went
- 32:57Speaker 1: to a lot, but when I started playing, I ain't
- 33:01Speaker 1: do the same work.
- 33:02Speaker 4: But you can still turn up. Like there's a balance,
- 33:05Speaker 4: Like I live a good life, Like I still like,
- 33:09Speaker 4: you gotta do what you gotta do, but there's a
- 33:11Speaker 4: balance in understanding of like success comes from consistency. Yeah,
- 33:18Speaker 4: you can go out here there like I eat well,
- 33:20Speaker 4: but like when I was younger, I eat. I eat
- 33:22Speaker 4: like I do now. Like everything I do now is better,
- 33:24Speaker 4: It's more amplified because I know so much now. I
- 33:26Speaker 4: understand exactly what I need to do to be ready
- 33:28Speaker 4: by seven pm. Tomorrow's a three pm game. I know
- 33:30Speaker 4: exactly what I needed to do to be ready by
- 33:32Speaker 4: three pm. I know what I need to eat.
- 33:33Speaker 1: I know the times. I know what time I should nap.
- 33:35Speaker 1: I know the time I FaceTime the kids.
- 33:37Speaker 4: I know the time I'm texting my wife, Like I
- 33:39Speaker 4: know exactly what I'm going to do throughout the day
- 33:41Speaker 4: because I had trial and error, but there was nights.
- 33:43Speaker 4: I mean I had some hitting knights, like tequila knights.
- 33:46Speaker 4: Like we did all of that and I still could
- 33:48Speaker 4: go get buckets. But now it's just like I know
- 33:50Speaker 4: better and I already did it, so it's like nah,
- 33:52Speaker 4: I can just drink some wine and go to sleep,
- 33:54Speaker 4: or like it is what it is, but we didn't
- 33:56Speaker 4: did it all.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Like we've done it all and experience it all.
- 33:59Speaker 4: But it's like, yeah, it's like I always say that
- 34:02Speaker 4: comes comes a time where you got to put away
- 34:03Speaker 4: childish things to kind of like pick a lane. And
- 34:06Speaker 4: now like I'm I'm the second oldest on the team,
- 34:08Speaker 4: so it's like I remember when I was the youngest. Yeah,
- 34:10Speaker 4: now I'm the oldest, and I don't want to I
- 34:13Speaker 4: don't want to phase out because of like a discipline.
- 34:15Speaker 4: If I phase out, it because I either chose to
- 34:16Speaker 4: leave or it just wasn't the right situation for me,
- 34:19Speaker 4: Like I don't want the league to just be done
- 34:20Speaker 4: with me.
- 34:20Speaker 2: I want to be done with the league, and I
- 34:22Speaker 2: got to do.
- 34:22Speaker 4: Everything right to my body in my mind, so that
- 34:25Speaker 4: peak performances I can go and go over ten tomorrow.
- 34:29Speaker 4: But I did everything I was supposed to do, so
- 34:30Speaker 4: like it should have worked out, and Lolla Average says
- 34:32Speaker 4: it will work out long term, but like you're gonna
- 34:34Speaker 4: have those games where you miss shots and ship, but
- 34:36Speaker 4: it's not gonna be for lack of preparation.
- 34:38Speaker 3: Now, that's why I wanted to ask, you had your
- 34:39Speaker 3: brother off the court? Of course, who was that vet
- 34:42Speaker 3: that or anybody when you got to Portland that took
- 34:45Speaker 3: you under that way?
- 34:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I had some. I had some real o g's
- 34:48Speaker 2: Like my rookie year.
- 34:50Speaker 4: I had Mo Williams, Steve Blake, squabble, shout out to
- 34:55Speaker 4: my god d Right. I had Chris Kyman, Earl Watson
- 34:59Speaker 4: and then like mid tier vets I called him like
- 35:01Speaker 4: the mid twenties. Back in the day, mid twenties was
- 35:03Speaker 4: like older for the league now, like and you got
- 35:06Speaker 4: twenty four twenty five year old rookies.
- 35:07Speaker 2: But I had Westy Matthews.
- 35:11Speaker 4: Uh, I had Lopez, I had.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Obviously me and Dame.
- 35:19Speaker 4: I had Will Barton, shot to my guy Wheel, Thrill, Thrill,
- 35:22Speaker 4: Thomas Robinson, Myers, Leonardo.
- 35:28Speaker 2: We had it was cold.
- 35:30Speaker 1: I had a great blend of young guys, mid tier
- 35:33Speaker 1: and vets.
- 35:33Speaker 4: Yeah, and our Vets was like like Moe used to
- 35:36Speaker 4: make me sit in his room. Uh he drank his
- 35:38Speaker 4: whiskey and make me sit in his room and just
- 35:39Speaker 4: tell me stories.
- 35:41Speaker 2: Uh.
- 35:42Speaker 4: Ded Wright was like, you know, we're gonna go out,
- 35:44Speaker 4: young fella, We're gonna do this. We're gonna go out
- 35:45Speaker 4: to eat. Like that's my guy to this day. But
- 35:48Speaker 4: like wed like a really good group of guys. Chris
- 35:50Speaker 4: came in. We own restaurants together, We own a bunch
- 35:53Speaker 4: of covers in Michigan together, like just a good scholid dude.
- 35:56Speaker 4: Pat Content shot that my guy Pat, he was a
- 35:58Speaker 4: young bull. Now he's got a.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Real estate Empires part time.
- 36:05Speaker 4: Pat and I got a lot of properties and stuff
- 36:07Speaker 4: together too. But it's like we talked about shout to
- 36:09Speaker 4: my guy at Davis, my guy at David's steamroom, Mafia.
- 36:11Speaker 4: We you know, yeah, a lot so a lot of
- 36:15Speaker 4: real ones who came from like different circumstances, different walks
- 36:18Speaker 4: of life. But like we go out to eat together,
- 36:20Speaker 4: we talk about business, talk about kids, life, and then
- 36:23Speaker 4: we go get it in. That's what i'stand so it
- 36:25Speaker 4: was like a perfect blend where you know, we land
- 36:29Speaker 4: in Miami. The sprinter beat there like it is what
- 36:31Speaker 4: it is, but like I got to see like every
- 36:33Speaker 4: aspect of life as a twenty year old to where
- 36:36Speaker 4: like now I'm in my thirties.
- 36:37Speaker 2: And it's just like like damn, like this is coming
- 36:40Speaker 2: full circle.
- 36:40Speaker 4: Like when I was youngest, now I almost the oldest,
- 36:43Speaker 4: is like I got to enjoy it before it's over.
- 36:45Speaker 1: Yeah see they got the sprinter from Miami. We had
- 36:49Speaker 1: a sprinter in Memphis. Salt like Salt liked it was
- 36:59Speaker 1: probably astro man. Our team was different. That's like when
- 37:03Speaker 1: he's saying his teammates like I was the youngest.
- 37:06Speaker 2: I was a rookie sprinter in Mendos. Is nasty work?
- 37:09Speaker 2: Are you going? Child smithhis love bro'spove Memphis. That's how.
- 37:16Speaker 1: But my rookie year it was like I don't know
- 37:18Speaker 1: if it's alrighty there no more. My rookie year it
- 37:21Speaker 1: was all right, but I ain't had nobody my age
- 37:24Speaker 1: on my team. So like everybody on my team had
- 37:26Speaker 1: either been like a Max player at one point in
- 37:29Speaker 1: their career guy or they was on their way to
- 37:32Speaker 1: being the guy. Like I was on this way of
- 37:34Speaker 1: being the guy Josh just got paid. I was just
- 37:37Speaker 1: a young buck, so wasn't nobody like you could really, Hey,
- 37:42Speaker 1: teach me the game. They like, I get on the
- 37:46Speaker 1: outside what you're talking about. So I used to be like, hey,
- 37:49Speaker 1: I want to go to the gym. And my workout
- 37:50Speaker 1: guy was Tyrone Hill. I'm a point guard specialist. Tyrone
- 37:56Speaker 1: Hill was my workout guy.
- 37:58Speaker 2: That's crazy. They tell you here that's so cool.
- 38:04Speaker 3: I mean they feeled you with so what.
- 38:07Speaker 4: They you in some ways, But think about what you
- 38:09Speaker 4: was able to do with that, Like you probably got
- 38:11Speaker 4: into a good career.
- 38:12Speaker 2: I didn't do nothing trying to clean up because I'm
- 38:18Speaker 2: like that.
- 38:20Speaker 1: Tomorrow my freshman, my rookie year, I got hurt though,
- 38:23Speaker 1: so I broke my foot again training camp.
- 38:26Speaker 2: I was league.
- 38:26Speaker 4: I didn't play a lot. Second year, I broke my
- 38:28Speaker 4: index finger, didn't play a lot. I was third string
- 38:30Speaker 4: shooting guard, third string point guard Wesley towards achilles are
- 38:34Speaker 4: and the follow towards shoulder.
- 38:36Speaker 2: So then I had to I had to play. You
- 38:38Speaker 2: had to play me.
- 38:39Speaker 4: And then I always say, you don't you don't blow.
- 38:42Speaker 4: You don't blow an opportunity by not playing your blood,
- 38:44Speaker 4: by not being ready, and I was ready.
- 38:46Speaker 3: You're a good dude, though, Bro, I shot the guy.
- 38:48Speaker 3: You've been hot. If you rolled the ball out and
- 38:51Speaker 3: it was Tyrone Lou, that's my guy, Tyrone. Heill go.
- 39:02Speaker 2: You gotta make it. Do what you do. But I
- 39:03Speaker 2: did you know what we did to t jumpers that
- 39:06Speaker 2: five spot they get to it. We do that.
- 39:09Speaker 3: It's key is with our frieze in the n b A.
- 39:12Speaker 2: It wasn't a real development playing place.
- 39:14Speaker 1: No, you're luckily Nick vann X came quick, quick came,
- 39:24Speaker 1: and then that's when my career kind of changed.
- 39:26Speaker 2: He like took me up. There's but then your game
- 39:28Speaker 2: of off because you had a real But my rookie
- 39:30Speaker 2: year the n b A was like ground bro, and
- 39:34Speaker 2: he was going out in Memphis.
- 39:36Speaker 3: So you was.
- 39:38Speaker 4: So younger, you know how just like now it's like
- 39:42Speaker 4: it's it's lead weigh and like now like we don't
- 39:44Speaker 4: make our rookies do anything. They got the backpacks, but
- 39:46Speaker 4: they don't really do real activities. When you was younger,
- 39:48Speaker 4: it was like mandated, like you gotta go.
- 39:50Speaker 2: It was like you.
- 39:51Speaker 4: Gotta do this, you gotta do that, Like it's not
- 39:52Speaker 4: a it's not a question it's like Rookie downstairs at
- 39:54Speaker 4: this time, rook I need my loop at this time,
- 39:57Speaker 4: brook I need the griddle with the with the hash
- 39:59Speaker 4: browns and the orange juice. And it was just like
- 40:02Speaker 4: I know they're gonna know, they're gonna break me off
- 40:03Speaker 4: some bread, so I'm gonna do it. First, you pushed back,
- 40:07Speaker 4: and then it gets worse, so he like, let me
- 40:09Speaker 4: just fall in line, like I don't want to more problems.
- 40:11Speaker 4: And then it gets easier and they start giving you
- 40:13Speaker 4: eight hundred dollars to go get McDonald's. He's like, yeah,
- 40:17Speaker 4: I don't know how much MiG died in l A.
- 40:19Speaker 4: I know how much McDonald's cost me.
- 40:22Speaker 2: At the gate. Did you have to learn or did
- 40:24Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? You feel alarned? I had
- 40:25Speaker 2: to learn. Neil called me into the office. He was like,
- 40:28Speaker 2: c J, I need him.
- 40:30Speaker 3: To like you.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Man right now, I don't like you.
- 40:34Speaker 3: You were saying no everything I was wilding out.
- 40:38Speaker 4: That was I went to school four years like I'm
- 40:39Speaker 4: an adult. Like man, it's like, you know, like you're
- 40:42Speaker 4: not talk to me like that. And it was like,
- 40:43Speaker 4: yeah we are. Yeah, I'm talking crazy. After I score
- 40:47Speaker 4: them and everything I'll.
- 40:51Speaker 2: Never forget I on the switch.
- 40:54Speaker 1: L A.
- 40:54Speaker 3: You know l is a man.
- 40:55Speaker 4: Shout to my guy, l A, shout market, I kind
- 40:58Speaker 4: of want switch and he said something to me.
- 41:00Speaker 1: I said pop and he said off. I said offer
- 41:02Speaker 1: your ass said you was so bullshit. But I ain't
- 41:09Speaker 1: no like I'm out.
- 41:10Speaker 4: Here trying to eat like I'm like I've been starving
- 41:12Speaker 4: my whole life. No, I'm in the league and I
- 41:14Speaker 4: ain't playing. Somebody gotta pay. Every practice matters.
- 41:18Speaker 3: They got to pay.
- 41:19Speaker 4: They got to pay, and they ain't like they ain't
- 41:20Speaker 4: taking practice. Seriously, this is my game. I'm talking crazy.
- 41:25Speaker 4: It set me back a little bit, but I'm made
- 41:26Speaker 4: up for it. On your car anything, Nah, I didn't
- 41:29Speaker 4: get to that point. I fell in line fast donuts.
- 41:32Speaker 4: What kind of donuts? Chris cre like wait to the
- 41:35Speaker 4: light of song, like I got you. You fell in
- 41:37Speaker 4: line like.
- 41:38Speaker 2: It took me like two weeks, but I think if
- 41:40Speaker 2: I had another week, it was over you felling line quick.
- 41:42Speaker 2: It took me like three months. Hey, shout out to
- 41:45Speaker 2: chime man making money moves here Club five.
- 41:47Speaker 1: It high like somebody is getting to it on it
- 41:49Speaker 1: off the court man and there's no better person to
- 41:51Speaker 1: choose this episode than our guy, c J.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Max Man.
- 41:53Speaker 1: Listen, we didn't want to jinx the episode, make sure
- 41:55Speaker 1: he got bucket when he pull up in town.
- 41:57Speaker 2: But now that the game is over, we can talk
- 41:58Speaker 2: about it. Getting to this year. How y'all feeling about.
- 42:01Speaker 3: C J Man eighteen points on the year he came
- 42:03Speaker 3: into the city and dropped eighteen on us. So my
- 42:05Speaker 3: boy been on a tier fifteen year vet. Keep killing
- 42:08Speaker 3: my boy?
- 42:09Speaker 2: Yeah, well said now Tea.
- 42:10Speaker 1: You always talk about how CJ had always been consistent
- 42:12Speaker 1: with his buckets eighteen this year, always been around twenty.
- 42:14Speaker 2: Man, what's the kiddy sinsistency for so many years in
- 42:17Speaker 2: the league. I think it's preparation.
- 42:19Speaker 1: I think he talked about it on an episode, how
- 42:20Speaker 1: much he prepared for the games and what you do
- 42:23Speaker 1: to get ready for, you know, to be a star
- 42:26Speaker 1: player like he is, average of eighteen this year, one
- 42:28Speaker 1: of the veterans on that group, and to come to
- 42:30Speaker 1: Indianapolis and get a win, that's definitely was a money move.
- 42:34Speaker 2: Well said Man.
- 42:34Speaker 1: Listened CJBI club for a long time off the court
- 42:36Speaker 1: an episode, you here more about his avestans he's made
- 42:39Speaker 1: and the long Jevy will be there man.
- 42:40Speaker 2: One time for child over Here Club five to twenty.
- 42:43Speaker 1: I got my car apart point the popcorns. Yeah, I
- 42:47Speaker 1: picked Bibio a full court in practice one day. He said,
- 42:49Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? So they told me
- 42:50Speaker 1: to pick you.
- 42:51Speaker 2: Up full court?
- 42:51Speaker 3: Yeah, but what you try to give a motherfucker a
- 42:53Speaker 3: donna that was four months old, so he was bad
- 42:56Speaker 3: to get your ship off.
- 42:58Speaker 1: You're picking up bbfore court is grace. He said, what
- 43:01Speaker 1: are you doing? I was like, he told me to
- 43:03Speaker 1: pick you up. He said, you sure about that?
- 43:08Speaker 2: The car was popped off the pick.
- 43:13Speaker 5: Job.
- 43:14Speaker 2: I thought you did something wrong. You don't ever try
- 43:18Speaker 2: to embarrass me. I was like, I thought, you didn't
- 43:21Speaker 2: do what you are to do this.
- 43:23Speaker 3: When did you get your opportunity?
- 43:25Speaker 4: So my my rookie year I was I was G
- 43:30Speaker 4: League Shorty for like like a week, and then I
- 43:32Speaker 4: transitioned back into d MP Shorty for a while and
- 43:35Speaker 4: then I was like the tenth man. But you got
- 43:38Speaker 4: a eight man rotation. Yeah, so you just to stay ready. Guy,
- 43:41Speaker 4: you're playing. You know your game is like three pm.
- 43:43Speaker 4: This is pre uber, pre postmate, So like you got
- 43:46Speaker 4: to get to the arena on your own house card whatever,
- 43:50Speaker 4: work out, run the stairs, Me and will play one
- 43:52Speaker 4: on one Me and t Rob will Myers Earl. We
- 43:55Speaker 4: played two and two. That's the game. Game starts. Take
- 43:58Speaker 4: your shower. You know you ain't playing, said, I was
- 44:00Speaker 4: like rookie year, second year. I played a little bit,
- 44:02Speaker 4: broke my finger back to the MP shorty. And then
- 44:06Speaker 4: it got to like February, like end of February, March,
- 44:10Speaker 4: mid March, right right before you get to that April push.
- 44:12Speaker 4: We like second in the West were killing West is
- 44:15Speaker 4: having a great year. Everybody's playing well, like we like
- 44:17Speaker 4: a well oiled machine. We got like a good five,
- 44:19Speaker 4: and like a good five, it comes in like everybody nice.
- 44:23Speaker 4: Like I'm like, oh shit, we got actually like we
- 44:25Speaker 4: got to we got a real chance to like make
- 44:26Speaker 4: a run. And Wesley Terrace's achilles, I'm like, oh shit,
- 44:30Speaker 4: I'm I'm back up now, I'm actually I forget tape
- 44:34Speaker 4: like a take before the games again. And then n
- 44:37Speaker 4: I follow Terrors's shoulder, so I go from third string
- 44:40Speaker 4: to like they gotta play me, even if they don't
- 44:42Speaker 4: start me, they gotta play me. From there, finished the
- 44:44Speaker 4: regular season and then my first round is against the
- 44:47Speaker 4: Memphis Grizzlies. Twenty locked my shit up and he locked
- 44:50Speaker 4: me up Game one, Game two, I kind of figured
- 44:53Speaker 4: it out. Game three, I had like thirty twenty seven,
- 44:55Speaker 4: twenty six season ends. I sit in the front office
- 44:59Speaker 4: and like, yeah, Westley's gonna sign with Dallas. Wesley gets
- 45:03Speaker 4: seventy million off the Achilles Aaron I followers with my agent.
- 45:06Speaker 4: He was like, I'm not coming back, young fella. Is
- 45:08Speaker 4: yours like I'm leaving And I was like, cool, Paul's
- 45:12Speaker 4: on that. That's crazy. Yeah, he was cooking this is
- 45:16Speaker 4: your journey.
- 45:17Speaker 6: I'm respect that. It's crazy. Wow, that's crazy.
- 45:29Speaker 4: But bro, long story short, they say, Yo, you're gonna
- 45:39Speaker 4: start at shooting guard. You're gonna play back on point guard.
- 45:41Speaker 4: I'm like, fucking ad the minutes. I'm like, minutes is that.
- 45:44Speaker 4: I'm like, fucking m I start at the shooting guard.
- 45:46Speaker 4: That's like twenty five Let's say Dame sits for like
- 45:49Speaker 4: seven seven to twelve minutes.
- 45:50Speaker 2: I'm like, shit, that's like thirty six minutes.
- 45:53Speaker 4: Gay, I said, I'm about to go crazy. I'm about
- 45:55Speaker 4: to cook crazy on like a dog off the leash.
- 45:58Speaker 4: Tell my brother, I said, I'm about to kill. He was like,
- 46:00Speaker 4: what you been waiting for? And now we'll know how
- 46:02Speaker 4: how hard you work. Now we'll see what the work
- 46:04Speaker 4: is all about.
- 46:05Speaker 3: And I was like, that was it. Yeah, I went my.
- 46:07Speaker 2: Maveraging six to twenty. You hear a crazy story.
- 46:11Speaker 1: So I remember he was telling a story you might
- 46:13Speaker 1: be on your podcast or somebody. And he was like, yeah.
- 46:16Speaker 1: My agent was like, we can sign the four year
- 46:17Speaker 1: thirty two like Jeff t. He was like, or we
- 46:20Speaker 1: can wait and play it out and I'm gonna go
- 46:21Speaker 1: get some money. And I remember I came to him
- 46:23Speaker 1: in the game. I was like, man, why are you
- 46:24Speaker 1: saying about my money? Man? He was like no, I
- 46:27Speaker 1: wasn't saying it like in a bad thing. I mean,
- 46:28Speaker 1: you got paid, but I know I could get more.
- 46:37Speaker 1: I walk around he pressing me.
- 46:39Speaker 2: I was like that's hard.
- 46:42Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I just walked away. I was like,
- 46:46Speaker 1: that's kind of funny. But no, I was like, I
- 46:48Speaker 1: did I remember what I said.
- 46:50Speaker 4: I used to look at us to call hoops hype
- 46:52Speaker 4: and look at deals and like look at stats. I
- 46:53Speaker 4: did this my whole life. Like before I went to Lehigh,
- 46:56Speaker 4: I knew Georgia Hill's stats. I knew Steve Nash, I
- 46:59Speaker 4: knew every like Steph Curry, every borderline like mid major
- 47:03Speaker 4: that goes to the league, like first round.
- 47:04Speaker 2: I looked at it.
- 47:04Speaker 4: I looked at East Snow obviously went to Michigan State,
- 47:06Speaker 4: but Keith macleode went to the Bowling Green Antonio Daniels,
- 47:09Speaker 4: so like I knew Daniels Tonio dani Ohio legend. So
- 47:12Speaker 4: I knew, like, all right, I got to average this,
- 47:14Speaker 4: I got to be this efficient. I gotta get to
- 47:16Speaker 4: the tournament.
- 47:16Speaker 2: So I knew. So when it came to the contracts
- 47:18Speaker 2: and we did the same thing.
- 47:19Speaker 4: I looked at your trajectory, size points, obviously statistics, how
- 47:23Speaker 4: good is the team? And I was like, okay, he's
- 47:26Speaker 4: getting like eight. Okay, this guy's getting like twelve. What
- 47:29Speaker 4: do I have to do And how much team success
- 47:30Speaker 4: do we have to have for me to get paid,
- 47:31Speaker 4: Because it's all blended together. You can kill a bad
- 47:33Speaker 4: team and it's like no one cares. So it's like
- 47:35Speaker 4: blended success. You need to be good individually, good numbers.
- 47:38Speaker 4: Shoot well from three. I got the creativity off the bounce.
- 47:41Speaker 4: I can play one of the two. I could score
- 47:44Speaker 4: three level score right at the floats whatever, But like,
- 47:46Speaker 4: is your team winning? So I was like, yeah, we're
- 47:48Speaker 4: winning games, right. We weren't supposed to make the playoffs.
- 47:50Speaker 4: Making the playoffs, I averaged a dub shoot forty forty
- 47:53Speaker 4: one from three. So it's like I got they got
- 47:56Speaker 4: to pay me at least like seventeen to twenty because
- 47:58Speaker 4: I'm twenty two years old. So it's like I just
- 48:01Speaker 4: kind of new like age statistics team success. So like
- 48:06Speaker 4: I was like, they got to pay me more than
- 48:07Speaker 4: that because I'm younger. I'm younger than Jeff West when
- 48:09Speaker 4: he got paid. That's what I meant, no disrespect.
- 48:14Speaker 3: He went district. I just like, how clean you can't be?
- 48:16Speaker 3: Like I mean they I said what I said.
- 48:22Speaker 2: Respect, I was just I wouldn't even I was. I
- 48:25Speaker 2: was you know me. Yeah, So I was just like,
- 48:28Speaker 2: why you say that?
- 48:29Speaker 1: Bro?
- 48:30Speaker 2: He was like, no, I could get more. I just
- 48:33Speaker 2: looked like ship.
- 48:34Speaker 3: Who Especially how he broke it down he already had
- 48:39Speaker 3: in the bag. That's how I always like, you left
- 48:51Speaker 3: that THI of Terry Bowe.
- 49:01Speaker 2: I gotta ask you, well, you know what I'm saying.
- 49:03Speaker 1: That bad came through obviously, he said, turnoil the first
- 49:06Speaker 1: couple of years and you hooped out.
- 49:07Speaker 2: They was to get paid. What was that feel like
- 49:09Speaker 2: the best thing in the world.
- 49:09Speaker 7: Man.
- 49:10Speaker 2: My agent, My agent hit me and it was like,
- 49:14Speaker 2: I think we're at like like ninety seven. I was
- 49:16Speaker 2: like ninety seven, what like ninety seven million?
- 49:19Speaker 1: I said, take you sitting there?
- 49:24Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's early early. I said early. I
- 49:27Speaker 2: don't want to be late. My guy was good.
- 49:28Speaker 4: He was like, trust me, CJ, We're good. I was
- 49:31Speaker 4: supposed to fly this. My brother was in TVT at
- 49:33Speaker 4: the million Dollar Tournament, so I was in Vegas. I
- 49:35Speaker 4: was supposed to fly to Philly to watch his championship.
- 49:37Speaker 4: He was like, don't go to these coast. We got
- 49:39Speaker 4: to sign this deal, like stay on the West coast.
- 49:41Speaker 4: So my now wife, my girlfriend at the time, we're
- 49:43Speaker 4: in Vegas and I'm like, we're going out tonight, young
- 49:47Speaker 4: young Young, you say young Seed was outside and it
- 49:51Speaker 4: was a great night. And then the next day I
- 49:52Speaker 4: flew to Portland. It was four years and four years,
- 49:57Speaker 4: one hundred and six million, and I was like, I
- 49:59Speaker 4: couldn't out sign was shaking when I was Oh my god,
- 50:12Speaker 4: every think I prayed for more. Shout out to the
- 50:15Speaker 4: goat Sam going for that always joke, I claim to famous.
- 50:18Speaker 4: I got more than honest in my first extension, I'm
- 50:19Speaker 4: talking Yanni.
- 50:21Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard.
- 50:23Speaker 1: Brow, that's fine. I was like, dang, when I seen
- 50:26Speaker 1: the signs that he got a hundred ship.
- 50:29Speaker 3: That's when you said, let's go get the micros for this.
- 50:33Speaker 3: Don't get.
- 50:40Speaker 2: Whose house is this?
- 50:44Speaker 7: What?
- 50:45Speaker 3: What was the first thing you called through?
- 50:47Speaker 2: No, I mean I was.
- 50:50Speaker 4: I went to Lee High Man, so was just like
- 50:51Speaker 4: understanding your finance and I just had this this this
- 50:54Speaker 4: fear going broke.
- 50:55Speaker 2: My whole life is just like I was afraid, like
- 50:57Speaker 2: y'all want to go broke.
- 50:57Speaker 4: So by my mom, my mom a car, by myself
- 51:00Speaker 4: a car, eventually about my dad a car. And then
- 51:03Speaker 4: my brother, you know, he get into the chicken too,
- 51:04Speaker 4: so we went half She's on a lot of stuff,
- 51:06Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like half home, mom's crib,
- 51:09Speaker 4: half home, my brother's crib.
- 51:10Speaker 3: That's all that crib.
- 51:11Speaker 1: So it's like I didn't really buy nothing, crazy man.
- 51:15Speaker 1: I did buy this iced out cross.
- 51:17Speaker 4: You know, I still got I don't really wear it anymore,
- 51:19Speaker 4: but I bought this iced out cross, and that was
- 51:22Speaker 4: really it man, I wanted to get the portionline eleven,
- 51:26Speaker 4: but I was afraid, so I didn't do it. But
- 51:27Speaker 4: then when I signed that, when I got to I
- 51:29Speaker 4: got to Ashton Martin dB eleven, that was like twenty
- 51:32Speaker 4: twenty seven, twenty eighteen, so I still got her. She's
- 51:35Speaker 4: in storage right now, waiting on waiting on me.
- 51:37Speaker 2: No for sure, man, I ain't gonna lie.
- 51:39Speaker 1: Boy, I'll see a hundred plus everything for salf me
- 51:43Speaker 1: a couple of posters, but then I'd be at the lead.
- 51:48Speaker 2: He did the right way, did the great wife for sure?
- 51:50Speaker 2: Now not to get my first day David gave me
- 51:53Speaker 2: a hundred men, boy.
- 51:56Speaker 1: I wouldn't be married. I love my wife to death.
- 51:59Speaker 1: I love you boy. I would been I would have
- 52:03Speaker 1: been Star.
- 52:07Speaker 2: Beach Team.
- 52:08Speaker 3: I would have put your star.
- 52:12Speaker 2: Next to him. I wouldn't be a boy.
- 52:22Speaker 1: Thought watch Real Estate down there and y'all crazy man,
- 52:38Speaker 1: carry I thought.
- 52:41Speaker 2: I watched me and my wife watched the shot that documentary.
- 52:45Speaker 2: It's one of the hop cooin and everything.
- 52:48Speaker 1: Everybody everybody watching, one of the craziest documentaries of all time. Incredible,
- 52:53Speaker 1: bro the fact that he really made them walk for
- 52:55Speaker 1: that cheesecake. It's still my boy for me being in
- 52:57Speaker 1: New York and see how.
- 52:58Speaker 3: Far that is. I sez, that's that's probably the emailest
- 53:02Speaker 3: thing he did, that little journey. I probably would have
- 53:07Speaker 3: signed up for that.
- 53:08Speaker 1: Yeah, compared to other things that all bad interviews is
- 53:12Speaker 1: out of pocket. Yeah, well you got that many people
- 53:14Speaker 1: waiting to talk about what you did to them.
- 53:16Speaker 2: Bro, that's crazy.
- 53:18Speaker 3: I'm not even taking up for nothing he did. I
- 53:20Speaker 3: just don't like to me, I feel like, if we're
- 53:22Speaker 3: all criminals, let's just go down together. That's why I
- 53:26Speaker 3: can't FOCU with too many people, see Jay, because I'm like, bro,
- 53:29Speaker 3: if we all did this ship out with me, Bro,
- 53:32Speaker 3: don't get on here saying man, I watched the Nigga.
- 53:35Speaker 3: I just didn't say nothing though. No, no, you guilty too.
- 53:38Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't do that. There was a lot of
- 53:40Speaker 2: complicit people in there. He did a lot, They did
- 53:42Speaker 2: a lot collectively. But that was crazy. Yeah.
- 53:45Speaker 4: I think that in the crazy part is is like
- 53:47Speaker 4: his own footage. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
- 53:50Speaker 3: I'm just saying, let's all go down together. But I
- 53:53Speaker 3: just don't like with one person that came down, we
- 53:55Speaker 3: all do a crown. We're all supposed to go to bro,
- 53:57Speaker 3: you ain't supposed to get out before me.
- 54:00Speaker 1: If you you commit the crime. But we watched it.
- 54:03Speaker 1: He wanted to go to jail you Yeah, bro, sit,
- 54:06Speaker 1: that's crazy.
- 54:08Speaker 2: Jail ain't doing it.
- 54:09Speaker 3: Yes you did.
- 54:11Speaker 2: Did you talk somebody out?
- 54:14Speaker 1: No, that's different if they say you got to go
- 54:15Speaker 1: to jail for life or tell you tell him for him?
- 54:18Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good. I'm good as to remixed the group chair,
- 54:30Speaker 3: but we take it.
- 54:30Speaker 2: Auditions for Fox the same. Some money in his books.
- 54:34Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, bro, no I put twenty thousand. I'm saying,
- 54:41Speaker 1: we did a crime, and we all in the car.
- 54:43Speaker 1: We all need to go down. Bro, if we all
- 54:45Speaker 1: are part of it, that's it. That's all I'm saying.
- 54:47Speaker 1: I respect that ship he did. I'm not even I'm
- 54:50Speaker 1: just saying I don't like when everybody just turning on
- 54:52Speaker 1: him when ship get dark.
- 54:53Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the people that was can plussing in there,
- 54:55Speaker 2: y'all was out of pocket.
- 54:56Speaker 3: Yeah, that's respect.
- 54:58Speaker 1: I got to ask this question obviously in Washington now,
- 55:01Speaker 1: But what was that moment, like knowing that she was
- 55:02Speaker 1: leaving Portland?
- 55:04Speaker 4: Yeah, that was tough man like that. That's still home
- 55:07Speaker 4: to this day and you know, it was. I always
- 55:09Speaker 4: say there's bad divorces and good divorces.
- 55:11Speaker 2: It was. It was. It was a good split. It
- 55:13Speaker 2: was amicable.
- 55:14Speaker 4: We had some great conversations about the process where I
- 55:17Speaker 4: was going to go teams that we kind of talked through,
- 55:19Speaker 4: and Joe did a great job of kind of orchestrating
- 55:22Speaker 4: that trade in the midst of you know, some chaotic
- 55:24Speaker 4: times right his post COVID is a lot going on,
- 55:26Speaker 4: and I had a saying where I was going.
- 55:29Speaker 2: So I can't complain about that departure. It was a
- 55:33Speaker 2: great time.
- 55:33Speaker 4: And one day I'll go back and you know, make
- 55:37Speaker 4: you do what to do again, or my jersey being raptors,
- 55:39Speaker 4: and we'll just enjoy those times.
- 55:40Speaker 1: But I think we handled it well. So I have
- 55:45Speaker 1: I have no ill will. I loved them.
- 55:46Speaker 4: I still watch a lot of their games on lead
- 55:47Speaker 4: Pass and I go to Oregon every summer, so I'm
- 55:51Speaker 4: still there. I got a business there, obviously, we got
- 55:53Speaker 4: the nursery, got the farm, so it's just a place
- 55:56Speaker 4: that's always going to be close to home. But it
- 55:58Speaker 4: was hard to leave, right Like it's it's tough you
- 56:00Speaker 4: spend your you know, the beginning of your adulthood. There
- 56:04Speaker 4: you learn, you grow, you develop a lot of my
- 56:06Speaker 4: first memories in the NBA are there, and you'll never
- 56:08Speaker 4: forget those. You know, the first house you buy, the
- 56:10Speaker 4: first like everything is there, the first basket you score
- 56:13Speaker 4: that's meaningful, the first playoff game, the first game winner.
- 56:16Speaker 4: So it's like it's a place that will always been
- 56:19Speaker 4: near and dear to me. But like now think for
- 56:21Speaker 4: them in a position where I can always go back
- 56:22Speaker 4: and I have roots there.
- 56:23Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, because I know, like I probably speak with
- 56:26Speaker 1: all of us, we're big fans of that.
- 56:27Speaker 2: Those Portland teams.
- 56:28Speaker 1: Obviously I was going neck and that would go stay
- 56:29Speaker 1: at the time period, so then you see it happen,
- 56:32Speaker 1: It's like, okay, maybe they might move on.
- 56:33Speaker 2: Then obviously we see you move on.
- 56:35Speaker 1: Did you ever think there was me a time period
- 56:37Speaker 1: they would have traded they mean litward, I didn't.
- 56:42Speaker 2: I think that shocked everybody.
- 56:43Speaker 3: I think.
- 56:46Speaker 4: The team was in a different space and I think
- 56:47Speaker 4: they had to make a decision on like is it
- 56:49Speaker 4: a rebuild?
- 56:50Speaker 2: Is it do we kind of play with parody?
- 56:53Speaker 4: And Dame was obviously trying to win a championship that
- 56:55Speaker 4: I think he's gonna traded to Milwaukee in the middle
- 56:57Speaker 4: of the night. No, hell no, I didn't foresee that happening.
- 57:00Speaker 4: But in this business you just kind of never know.
- 57:02Speaker 4: And there's not a lot of lifers. Johannis could be
- 57:05Speaker 4: a lifer, but like, who knows what's gonna happen with
- 57:06Speaker 4: that situation, right, Like, there's not a lot of lifers
- 57:09Speaker 4: in this league.
- 57:09Speaker 2: No matter how good you are.
- 57:10Speaker 1: It's hard to be on a team, you know, dark
- 57:12Speaker 1: Nowinsky style, like when you do twenty years or whatever,
- 57:15Speaker 1: like I.
- 57:15Speaker 4: Thought Luca would be, you know, a life but like
- 57:17Speaker 4: you just never know in this business. So it's unfortunate.
- 57:21Speaker 4: But he made his way back and my guy Id
- 57:23Speaker 4: is happy. He's progressing well. But he was moving well
- 57:26Speaker 4: back with his kids, so he's in a good spot.
- 57:28Speaker 4: And you know, mentally, I think he's in a much
- 57:31Speaker 4: better position. And it's hard going from being right like
- 57:33Speaker 4: his family is in working like everybody is there. You
- 57:36Speaker 4: go from that to being in Milwaukee where it's like
- 57:37Speaker 4: negative tens on the other side of.
- 57:39Speaker 2: The world, Like it's a difficult transition.
- 57:41Speaker 1: Yeah, o buck pleasure over here he was talking about
- 57:44Speaker 1: that definitely legend, you know what I'm saying, talk about
- 57:46Speaker 1: it without you since, Bro, But you said early on
- 57:50Speaker 1: and people's criticizing for it.
- 57:52Speaker 2: He's like, dam should go back to.
- 57:53Speaker 1: Yeah, I said it. I knew where his heart was.
- 57:56Speaker 1: I knew where he wanted to be. To me, you
- 57:58Speaker 1: can tell me everything you want to. But when you're
- 58:00Speaker 1: the guy of an organization and they say the letter
- 58:03Speaker 1: oh when he come out, they don't even say number zero,
- 58:06Speaker 1: they said the letter old.
- 58:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean wrong forever. Yeah.
- 58:10Speaker 4: In fact, I mean she's everybody spit there. I get it,
- 58:14Speaker 4: Like I feel the love. And I wasn't him, you
- 58:16Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like they loved me. That wasn't that,
- 58:20Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So it's like you was, bro. Bro,
- 58:23Speaker 4: I don't like say that. Y'all had some especially I
- 58:27Speaker 4: can hoop, but likes.
- 58:31Speaker 2: Bro dynamic. Bro, it was it was clay and stuff.
- 58:34Speaker 1: Then it was you and Dan a thousand percent, bro,
- 58:36Speaker 1: like the best bad course in the league. That's what
- 58:39Speaker 1: it was.
- 58:40Speaker 3: Bro.
- 58:40Speaker 2: I was trying to ship too. Bro.
- 58:41Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all wasn't ask to be fair. That go say
- 58:43Speaker 1: team was stupid, Like, come on, Bro, that was was
- 58:47Speaker 1: it was without them, like we might have had a
- 58:50Speaker 1: chance at the hip for sure, they sued it up.
- 58:53Speaker 3: I wish I would have had l A a little longer,
- 58:55Speaker 3: would have stayed bro.
- 58:58Speaker 2: Y'all would have had might have got one.
- 59:02Speaker 4: That post presence is dropping bro your forty ball. Yeah,
- 59:06Speaker 4: top is him.
- 59:08Speaker 3: That's the best big you play, will.
- 59:09Speaker 2: Keep it real?
- 59:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean who else I played with hold On?
- 59:13Speaker 1: He played with freaks the legend.
- 59:18Speaker 7: Let you, I love l A give me.
- 59:33Speaker 5: Like L I was, Yeah, because you're.
- 59:47Speaker 1: Just trans dynamicicing, explosive and athletic. But he's a different
- 59:51Speaker 1: type of big l. It's like a for sure I
- 59:53Speaker 1: was that was like a post traditional big pick pops.
- 59:56Speaker 1: He is forward, ducky and he bringing up, bringing a
- 59:59Speaker 1: bitch up like he's doing all of that.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: It's like a different variable. But I also never got
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: to see Z play in the playoffs, so it's different.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: I see L go give Dwight forty and twenty he's
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: so it's like fact he has the potentially do that,
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: but I haven't able to see it yet.
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: So like it's hard to judge regular season.
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: No, I got you now, I'm gonna take LA all day.
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: It's not even close.
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: When show up, though, comparison is a deep of joy,
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: but like in regular season when he plays, he's he's
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: doing nothing. He's box office for sure, but it's like
- 1:00:26Speaker 4: it's comparing them. It's it's just not fair. But like
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: if we would have had l and it's funny like
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: if you know then what if you know then what
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: you know now? Like I would have tried to get
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: him to stay like we would all like, but I
- 1:00:37Speaker 4: didn't know like he was going till it's too late.
- 1:00:39Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: I used to just hate how they used to just
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: try to break y'all up because they said y'all were
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: too small to win.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: It's like something winning forty seven and fifty two games
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: like a problem.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I never understood that.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: Even in the wild Wild West too literally hated that crew.
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was. He used to tell me, like
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: this man in they position while they're saying this, because
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: ship you're getting six eighty six nine two guards. Now
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: that they're not killing, it's just that's what they're seeing.
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: These kids is creating these monsters.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: I used to run that that flair action I thom My.
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: I used to be like you. I used to pick
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: my poys. I used to come up like I got
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: dang fuck that I got c J. I'm like, funk
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: that I got ce J. Guard CEJ? Either I guard Nico.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: You won't that well, right, I'm like all right, stay
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: with that about the Yeah, for sure I could guard
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: that which I was dying. Nia was still contributed to league. Man,
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: he's a good player. Though he's still contributed Bro too.
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: Like here about about seventeen and somewhere, Bro nigga forty Bro.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: Before we get before we get out of here, I
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: just wanted to ask you, like, Okay, you was in
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: New Orleans and that was a new situation, and it
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: was you know, it was a different situation. But now
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: that being Washington and be the oldest guy on the team,
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: the second oldest Chris Chris older than Chris Wilson, guy
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: Chris non cash middles, but to be one of the
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: older guys on the team, like the VET and guys
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: looking up to you asking you questions, is there any
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: guy that like really sticks out to you from this
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: young group to be like, I think he's going to
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: be special in five years when we talk about this
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: a little later, Yeah, I think I'm gonna talk about
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: him all specific like individually, or maybe three.
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: Of them, big fellas. Sorry, ask a lot of questions.
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: Obviously he's you know he's a footer, yeah, super skilled.
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: Obviously he's making a jump. Yeah, he's progressing back from
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: an injury now. But like you can just see the tools,
- 1:02:40Speaker 4: the footwork. Yeah he got the turn fake like not
- 1:02:43Speaker 4: l a right, but like the way he plays and moves,
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: the fluidity, like the touch. You try to see like
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: the levels of could be a two way guy, right,
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: rent protector, can guard, can switch out one through five,
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: can plain the drop and play at the level, go
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: touch around the basket, can shoot the three still like
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: a baby, like still young Keisha, Like I think this
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: guy's the limit for him.
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: Nice Damnar six' ten point like he can play the.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: Point he can we played Against.
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: Dallas he guard to ad like he has like, range
- 1:03:10Speaker 4: you know through five he can play every position, offensively
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: large level score, mid he's getting better learning how to
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: stop and just. Raise can shoot the, three shooting like low.
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: Forties he was at forty five from three last. Week
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: so it's like great. Scale bubb is always in the
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: gym WHENEVER i go into late, night LIKE i see
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: him in.
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: There he.
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: Works, yeah six threes last, game Like baltimore.
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: Guy you, know he's, tough he can, Guard he's, tall
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: he's got. Size who else the law super, tall, Athletic
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: LIKE i think they're going after like the right types of.
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: Players great character you talked, about like what it was
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: like for you to be a rookie when we Landed.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: CITIES i get.
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: Treatment they go work out like they are big on,
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: development big on the, work big on. Progressing aj is
- 1:03:51Speaker 4: always in the. GYM i think he was In. Milwaukee
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: loves the. Game the kids that they, Drafted will is
- 1:03:57Speaker 4: always in the. GYM i, Mean i'm probably Forgetting.
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: Johnson gonna be a dog like loves the game.
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: Obviously the jumper is what it, is, Right, like it's,
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: smooth is, quick he, loves he loves the, game lives the,
- 1:04:12Speaker 4: game doesn't have no.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: Hobbies he finally started doing like he started doing.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Bar so like he's progressing into like a young, man,
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: Right he's going from like a kid to like a young,
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: man like.
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: Maturity watch his game is. Mature BUT i think like
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: they're hand picking the right guys Like Ken whitmore, right
- 1:04:30Speaker 4: like super, explosive super athletic game, Changer like the talent is,
- 1:04:36Speaker 4: unquestioned you, know so like you see the little glimpses
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: of like damn, electrician you, know Big, felt the big
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: brought to like can shoot. It he's, like, damn they're
- 1:04:45Speaker 4: like a. Footer his dad was A european. Legend like
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: they have all these guys with, intangibles with skill, sets
- 1:04:51Speaker 4: with ability to grow and evolve and. Develop it's just like,
- 1:04:56Speaker 4: opportunity meeting, time meeting when you're, ready meeting like that twenty.
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: Two so it's like there's so many, things but, LIKE
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: i think this guy's the limit once they kind of
- 1:05:06Speaker 4: like you, know really settle.
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: Into being like, men like mentally and. Physically like this
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: guy's delimit like in the next three.
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: Years and boys can be like that's real, dogs real,
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: Dogs like when they're twenty, four twenty.
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: Five oh my, god that's the scary port because you
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: know they're all. Talented, yeah but somebody can't stay yeah oh.
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: Yeah but right now it's the vetting, process, right like
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: they're like you got you got all of these. Guys
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: it's the vetting, process even Like malkey is From, ohio,
- 1:05:34Speaker 4: right my SAMET v, Guy like you have all of
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: these guys and now it's just like seeing how the
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: pieces fit on the. Puzzle how do they fit on the?
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: Puzzle how does the puzzle continue to? Evolve who continues
- 1:05:45Speaker 4: to kind of show more growth than the? Others like
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: bags can really hoop, Right like guy's a lottery.
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: Pick the guy has real. Talent he has sixteen and
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: sixteen last, Night like he can really get to. It
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: it's just.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: Opportunity it's timing Gets are you not hurt at the right?
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: Time?
- 1:06:01Speaker 4: Yeah are you playing on the right team at the right?
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: Time do you get drafted into a great situation or
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: a fuck up? Situation like there's so many things that
- 1:06:07Speaker 4: factor in THE dna of who you become as a
- 1:06:09Speaker 4: basketball player and how the world perceives and judges you
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: That like you can't get caught up into like what
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: you see on the surface level because you don't know
- 1:06:16Speaker 4: what kind of created. That it could be, environment it
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: could be, confidence it could be he, nice but he
- 1:06:22Speaker 4: don't have work. Ethic all he needs to Be all
- 1:06:24Speaker 4: he needs is to be told LIKE i need to do,
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: this and he'll go do. It but nobody ever told.
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: Him like it's so many little games that determines your.
- 1:06:30Speaker 4: Success AND i think a lot of people don't see.
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: THAT i was gonna ask you this, question do you
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: think they have the same type of patience going, forward
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: like for someone like, you like you, said organization early
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: on a boutle some, injuries but you got your.
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: Sign it was like.
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: That nowadays it seemed like they give up going draft
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: picks a little bit sooner than they used. To is
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: that just a new age thing or just situation about?
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: TEAM i IMAGINE i think it's, Both but it's rep.
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: FLAX i WAS i was, injured but like there was
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: LIKE i was on, TIME i show, UP i work
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: on my. Craft it's just WHAT i. WASN'T i wasn't
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: able to play because of. Injury if you got the injury,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: problems but then you also got can't do the little,
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: things you can't master the big, things and you fucking
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: up the little, things there's no room for you.
- 1:07:08Speaker 4: Here AND i think that's the. Difference in this new.
- 1:07:10Speaker 4: Age they get paid, earlier so the titlement there's. Confidence
- 1:07:13Speaker 4: that's Like i've been getting money SINCE i was. Sixteen
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: like it used to be like a dream to make
- 1:07:18Speaker 4: it to THE. Nba like watches the, car like these
- 1:07:20Speaker 4: guys got to watch and stuff in their cars and they's, sixteen.
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: So it's like it's almost.
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: Counterintuitive and my my senior thesis was on why colsh
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: athletes should be paid back in twenty, thirteen so LIKE
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: i understand the intricacies of it and like how important it,
- 1:07:34Speaker 4: is but like without education and, guidance it's detrimental to
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: the development of. Basketball AND i think you get these
- 1:07:39Speaker 4: entitled players who don't do the little. Things good at
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: the big, things but can't do the little, things and
- 1:07:44Speaker 4: that's when you just like fucking let them. Go it's
- 1:07:46Speaker 4: LIKE i don't want to. DEAL i rather have the
- 1:07:47Speaker 4: guy that's not as, good but he gonna do the
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: shit right and he would be a. Guy it's like that's.
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: IMPORTANT i try to tell, him like y'all can have
- 1:07:53Speaker 4: all the talent in the. WORLD i want to be
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: the guy that lasts so. Long they're, like how this
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: nigga's there? Here you know What i'm, Saying like you
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: you you wanted to, Be like you almost, Overstayed you're, welcome,
- 1:08:03Speaker 4: Right like you you so good in the, beginning you're,
- 1:08:06Speaker 4: underpaid and then you get to the point where you,
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: see like there's a couple of guys on every ROSTER i,
- 1:08:10Speaker 4: said go talk to that. Guy ask him how he
- 1:08:12Speaker 4: got how he gets seven millions to not? Play ask
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: him how he gets twelve million to not. Play, yeah
- 1:08:18Speaker 4: because that's that's where you want to get.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: To right. Now you're. Good you got to.
- 1:08:21Speaker 4: Upside you got all these things you want to be
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: so valuable where like you don't even have to play
- 1:08:25Speaker 4: and they need.
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: You come on by was looking at the video earlier
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- 1:08:30Speaker 1: legend uh kemp a Job american.
- 1:08:34Speaker 4: Legends one of the best Humans i've ever met and
- 1:08:37Speaker 4: one of the best Humans i've ever met owe.
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: Me so it's like those things. Matter like now you
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: take your talent with doing the little shit, right this
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: guy's the. Limit you bring in the pain for. Sure,
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: yeah and you walk away and you do whatever you
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: want for sixty. Years well said. Listen we go a
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: couple of things before we get out of. Here we
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- 1:09:20Speaker 4: know like here losing a purpose. Understaying i'm, Like, yo
- 1:09:25Speaker 4: what do you? Expect like do you understand how hard
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: it is like to play at this level consistently under
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: this microscope against pit bulls and savages with the most elite, Talent, Like,
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: yo you think.
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- 1:10:03Speaker 1: Now with the fair, interaction especially with like you have
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- 1:10:07Speaker 1: podcasts LIKE us and morning shows like that when we
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: sit there and talk about all this stuff that you
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: probably don't want to talk. About is it different like
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- 1:10:15Speaker 4: OPINIONS i think it's, Cool LIKE i know how to
- 1:10:17Speaker 4: like tune out the, distraction so it's LIKE i can
- 1:10:19Speaker 4: just lock in and. FOCUS i think for the younger,
- 1:10:21Speaker 4: guys like they care about everything somebody, says and it's, like,
- 1:10:23Speaker 4: yo they hate it On Jesus bro like.
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- 1:10:28Speaker 2: yo this is.
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- 1:10:32Speaker 4: Talk steph can go ahead just like he shoots to be.
- 1:10:37Speaker 4: Three So i'm, like, yo this is the greatest. SHOOT
- 1:10:38Speaker 4: i never touched the. Basketball so there's a bunch of
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- 1:10:57Speaker 4: like it is like my, boy you can't play and correctly.
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