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How much better will the Buffalo Bills defense be in 2025? | DC · Disguised Coverage

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  Speaker 1: But aside from that tree being the most important thing
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  Speaker 1: in this episode of This Guy's coverage, we are going
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  Speaker 1: to start to put a bow on the moves we've
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  Speaker 1: seen thus far in this offseason and start to work
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  Speaker 1: forward towards the actual start of the twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: season and everything that comes with that. Training camp, preseason,
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  Speaker 1: regular season. The roster, the depth chart, the moves. Everything
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  Speaker 1: that starts to kind of come together and function and
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  Speaker 1: coalesce as this team becomes the team that we will see.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, John, John says cool for Mother's Day. Good points.
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  Speaker 1: See it all works, We all works to John, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: as we start to move forward here and really see
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  Speaker 1: what this team is going to be in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: we had all the waves of free agency and the
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  Speaker 1: contract extensions and then the draft prap and the draft,
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  Speaker 1: and there are still some things that could shake out
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  Speaker 1: as we move forward here in May and June and July,
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  Speaker 1: but then camp starts the end of July. We get preseason,
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  Speaker 1: we get regular season, all that kind of stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, this roster for the Buffalo Bills
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five is pretty set, and you start
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  Speaker 1: to kind of look forward in terms of what this
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  Speaker 1: team is going to be in twenty twenty five and
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  Speaker 1: the hows and the whys and all of it schematically individually,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. I think it's important to start to
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  Speaker 1: have this conversation from a large scale and then break
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  Speaker 1: it down and get smaller and smaller and more niches
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  Speaker 1: we go forward. So in tonight's episode, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: start on the defensive side of the ball, where most
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  Speaker 1: of the attention has been given this offseason. Whether you're
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  Speaker 1: a fan of that, whether you're not a fan of that,
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  Speaker 1: feel free to let me know in the comments. Rightly
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  Speaker 1: or wrongly, the Bills defense has gotten a pretty significant overhaul.
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  Speaker 1: And depending on how positively or negatively you view the overhaul,
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  Speaker 1: they may have gotten some upgrades and may just be
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  Speaker 1: some tweaks and maybe even exchanges, depending on how you
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  Speaker 1: see it and how you feel. But between free agency
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  Speaker 1: and what the Bills have done in the draft, the
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  Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball has gotten a lot of
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  Speaker 1: attention and potential facelift for this season from an individual standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: from a schematic standpoint, and that's where we're going to
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  Speaker 1: focus on in this episode. We're going to look at
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  Speaker 1: several position groups, players that are involved in those position groups.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the defense as a whole.
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  Speaker 1: As Pops comes in and says, I'm still worried about
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  Speaker 1: an injury at linebacker. We will briefly talk about linebacker tonight,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a position group in linebacker that we for
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  Speaker 1: you know, no jinks, we know what we're getting on
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  Speaker 1: the surface from a starter's perspective, right, we know what
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  Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard is. Maybe he continues to surprise us with
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  Speaker 1: what he can be and continues to improve. We know
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  Speaker 1: what Matt Malano is when he's healthy, and we sell
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  Speaker 1: some glimpse of what Dorrinan Willne can be and what
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  Speaker 1: he could potentially be as a third linebacker in this team,
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  Speaker 1: or if he has to step in and spot, do
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  Speaker 1: to or maybe succeed Matt Milano. Next season, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about safety a little bit. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: into your defensive line, the edge grouping, the corner grouping.
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  Speaker 1: There's just despite all of the moves on defense in
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  Speaker 1: the draft and free agency, the RJ comes in and says,
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  Speaker 1: all I can say is this defense best be better
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  Speaker 1: with all and all is in all caps, all the
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  Speaker 1: resources spent on that side and the ball. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that is what ties it to that conversation. And
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  Speaker 1: I given all the attention, all the resources that have
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  Speaker 1: been allocated to the defense, how much better will they
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  Speaker 1: be in twenty twenty five? Are they better? Where are
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  Speaker 1: they better? How all that kind of stuff? I figured
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  Speaker 1: you would have some kind of thought with that. RJ
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  Speaker 1: so I that doesn't surprise me. But despite all the moves,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe RJ, this might not make you feel great.
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  Speaker 1: Despite all the moves, I still do think there are
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  Speaker 1: some questions and some variables and some unknown quantities, both
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  Speaker 1: positively and negatively within this bill's defense. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: we're going to tie into this episode tonight and talk
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  Speaker 1: about in this episode tonight, along with a multitude or
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  Speaker 1: other other things. So this episode continues to kind of
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  Speaker 1: set the table as we move forward this offseason, and
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  Speaker 1: similar to what I did last year in the off
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  Speaker 1: season for Disguis coverage, we'll start to move forward and
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  Speaker 1: take a look at the roster as a whole, take
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  Speaker 1: a look at some schematic things that this team can
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  Speaker 1: do and be in twenty twenty five. How that ties
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  Speaker 1: into the trends we're seeing league wide, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: past several years and from twenty twenty four. I'm also
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  Speaker 1: gonna be doing some individual player deep dives for some guys,
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  Speaker 1: for several guys on the team that I think will
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  Speaker 1: be important for twenty twenty five, may have underachieved in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, may have some question mark going forward,
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  Speaker 1: So a lot to do in this off season as
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  Speaker 1: we go forward here, but for now, we'll focus on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball in this episode. And
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  Speaker 1: as I alluded to earlier, if you have any thoughts, questions, comments, concerns,
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  Speaker 1: anything like that, feel free to put it up to
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  Speaker 1: the chat at any single point in time. I will
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  Speaker 1: a laser pointer and pulls me away from my notes,
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  Speaker 1: So those will get brought up. And yeah, any thoughts
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  Speaker 1: you guys have, positively, negatively lukewarm whenever you got player wise,
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  Speaker 1: team wise, league wide, feel free to put it up
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  Speaker 1: into the channel. Make this episode as engaging as possible
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  Speaker 1: as we do on this show. R J says, I'm
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  Speaker 1: curious how TJ. Sanders compares to Dwayne Carter. Is a
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  Speaker 1: prospect overall talent wise, not play style. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to set correct expectations for Sanders and Jackson on the
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  Speaker 1: defensive line. I will be diving into that specifically when
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  Speaker 1: we get into interior defensive line and RJ follows that
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  Speaker 1: up by saying, if I remember Dwayne Carter was a
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  Speaker 1: prospect with some buzz going into the draft last year.
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  Speaker 1: I think it always depends on who you ask or
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  Speaker 1: where you go to for your draft content. You never
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  Speaker 1: know depending on where you go. I think like Dwayne Carter,
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  Speaker 1: I think was like a top three or four defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle for some folks last year, and then he was
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  Speaker 1: more of like a Day three guy for some. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a bit hit or miss depending on where
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  Speaker 1: you go. I don't remember too much. I kind of
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  Speaker 1: flush everything from prospect wise in terms of who evaluated
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  Speaker 1: who and how aside from myself once we move past,
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  Speaker 1: but we will get into the juxtaposition between him and Sanders,
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  Speaker 1: what it means for the defense, what it means for
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  Speaker 1: the defensive tackle grouping as a whole. So good question,
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  Speaker 1: r J, and getting a started in that regard. And
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  Speaker 1: and that will go a long way. All right, dive
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  Speaker 1: into the meat of this episode and we'll change the
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  Speaker 1: banner which says how much better will the Buffalo Bills
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  Speaker 1: defense be in twenty twenty five? So oh, grab this
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: comment from Noah. Noah says, McDermott is the problem. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: not sorry. I'm interested to see kind of what the
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  Speaker 1: perception of Sean McDermott is if the defense starts to
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  Speaker 1: come through a little bit in the playoffs, or if,
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  Speaker 1: like I know, Noah is not alone in this thought.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if this that there's anything that can be done.
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  Speaker 1: No I feel free to answer if you think you know,
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  Speaker 1: if there's anything that would change your mind on that,
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  Speaker 1: feel free to comment that. R J says, also, there's
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  Speaker 1: no way Carter can play one tech at micro softball game.
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  Speaker 1: You look like a linebacker at his size. He just
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  Speaker 1: look extremely small. We're gonna get into that. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get oh, and then Joe Joe Rosa, literally at the
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  Speaker 1: exact same time, says, hey, guys, I'm late. Am I
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  Speaker 1: too late to push my Carter as one tight one
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  Speaker 1: t agenda? It's absolutely the BoatUS is so gone on it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start with the interior defensive line. I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna start with corner, but I'll start with the
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  Speaker 1: interior defensive line since the conversation piece is already there. Actually, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm lying, I was already gonna start with defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it shows in my notes. So significant changes
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  Speaker 1: to the interior defensive line this offseason with what the
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  Speaker 1: Bills have done. And if you're sitting here looking at
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  Speaker 1: the depth chart, I'm not going to list out everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna list the guys that I think right
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  Speaker 1: now have the best shot to play significant snaps for
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  Speaker 1: this team, provided there are you know, nothing, no nothing
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  Speaker 1: goes sideways, no injuries, anything like that, no jinks. So
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  Speaker 1: right now we're looking at ed Oliver Daikwon, Jones, Larry
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  Speaker 1: ogun Joby, TJ. Sanders, Dion Walker, and Dwayne Carter. As
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure most of you folks know, Larry Ogunjobi. He's
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  Speaker 1: got that six game suspension looming over his head, so
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  Speaker 1: that will play a role in the combination that we
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  Speaker 1: will see on the interior. Without Larry ogun Joby, obviously
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at ed Oliver Daikwon Jones, TJ. Sanders, Dwayne Carter,
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  Speaker 1: and then Dion Walker and what I think is interesting
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be probably doing a focus episode on
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  Speaker 1: this position group as we start to go forward. I'm
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  Speaker 1: very interested to see who the odd man out is
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  Speaker 1: on the interior defensive line and what the rotation looks
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  Speaker 1: like from a USHE standpoint and from a snapshare perspective.
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  Speaker 1: I think we'll start at the top. Ed Oliver is
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  Speaker 1: at Oliver in terms of what he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: right three tech penetrating Upfield plays the run better than
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  Speaker 1: he gets credit for. But we know what he is
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  Speaker 1: within this defense right positively or negatively depending on how
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  Speaker 1: you view him. Daiquon Jones I think starts the questions
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  Speaker 1: for this interior defensive line, both positively and negatively. I'm
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  Speaker 1: probably be saying that a lot in this episode with
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  Speaker 1: daik One, you know, just to recap at the past
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  Speaker 1: two seasons. Two seasons ago before he tears his pack man,
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  Speaker 1: I legitimately think he was on pace front all pro season.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was going to continue the
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  Speaker 1: level that he was playing at before he got hurt,
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  Speaker 1: but he was on a tear as a pass rusher
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  Speaker 1: and as a run defender. Great season, tears, the pack
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  Speaker 1: comes back for the playoffs. Not so great plays all
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  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four. Not the doesn't reach the heights
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  Speaker 1: or the expectations that fans had for him considering what
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  Speaker 1: he was the year before he got hurt, right, I
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  Speaker 1: still will maintain that I think Daikwon Jones had a
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  Speaker 1: better twenty twenty four than he gets credit for. But
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't the shades or the flashes of twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: three when he was potentially on pace for an All
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  Speaker 1: Pro season. But Daique, I think, is where you start
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  Speaker 1: to get the questions and then I see some comments
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  Speaker 1: there for Dean Walker. We're gonna get into that in
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  Speaker 1: a bit. Jones is interesting because, and I'm gonna tie
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  Speaker 1: this with the position group I've talked about all off season.
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  Speaker 1: I still do think the interior defensive line needed more
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  Speaker 1: of a stout presence on the interior. They did not
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  Speaker 1: address that this offseason. They had an opportunity to, and
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  Speaker 1: if you believe Tylee Williams, defensive tackle from Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: who is very much a stout presence and a run
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  Speaker 1: first type of interior defensive lineman, he was told by
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  Speaker 1: the Bills that if he was there at pick thirty,
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  Speaker 1: he was going to be the Bills pick. He got
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  Speaker 1: taken two picks before they went by the Detroit Lions,
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  Speaker 1: So who knows what would have happened in that regard
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  Speaker 1: if he had been there, But according to Tyler Williams,
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  Speaker 1: he would have been the pick. So it looked like
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  Speaker 1: the Bills may potentially address that stout issue or lack
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  Speaker 1: thereof on the interior. They did not. They end up
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  Speaker 1: taking you know, they trade up in the second round
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  Speaker 1: to get a defensive tackle. It's not Alfred Collins, it's
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  Speaker 1: not Darius Alexander, it's TJ. Sanders, who very much fits
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  Speaker 1: the mold. So all of these guys and Walker included,
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  Speaker 1: who I'm going to talk about individually in this position group.
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  Speaker 1: Despite how huge of a man Dion Walker is, he
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  Speaker 1: is now not a stout, anchoring type of player on
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  Speaker 1: the interior, despite being huge in every way, shape and form.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't know how big, ninety nine percent out
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  Speaker 1: for height, ninety first percentile for weight, ninety third percent
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  Speaker 1: out for wingspan, eighty third percent out for arm length,
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight percent out for hands, eize just an absolute
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  Speaker 1: mountain of a dude inside, despite being that big, he
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  Speaker 1: is not a plugger. He's not this anchoring dude who's
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  Speaker 1: just gonna muddy up the interior. He is a penetrator.
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  Speaker 1: He is a gap shooter. That's why I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was all when they drafted him on day three, I
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  Speaker 1: just tweeted a bunch of hajas because it was just
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  Speaker 1: it was so ironic that Bill's fans have wanted a
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  Speaker 1: bigger guy and this bigger, bodied sized defender on the interior,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the one that the Bill's got was
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  Speaker 1: Dean Walker, who doesn't play to that size, or didn't
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  Speaker 1: at Kentucky at the least. But we're going to get
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  Speaker 1: into his specific breakdown at a bit as we go
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  Speaker 1: forward here. But if you look at the interior, we
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  Speaker 1: essentially have what we've had in the past, penetrators, gap shooters,
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  Speaker 1: guys that lean towards more inside rush than they do
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  Speaker 1: run defense. I do think the top four, when you
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  Speaker 1: remove Ogen Joe's suspension, I do think the top four
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  Speaker 1: are set. I think it's however, whatever rotation we go through,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's at Oliver Daikwon Jones, Larry Ogun, Joey TJ. Sanders.
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  Speaker 1: What I think is interesting about Daikwon Jones is ideally
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  Speaker 1: I wanted someone who was more stout that could start
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  Speaker 1: alongside at Oliver and then give you the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: put Daiquon Jones as more of defensive tackle three in
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  Speaker 1: the rotation, having to be one of the second wave
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  Speaker 1: guys instead of playing up on the first wave along
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  Speaker 1: with that Oliver. But given how they've constructed the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the defensive tackle room, I think what you can
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  Speaker 1: do with Daikon is having to be more of an
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  Speaker 1: early down defender, having to be a guy that focuses
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  Speaker 1: more on the run, and then if you get to
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  Speaker 1: those pat well not if when you get to those
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  Speaker 1: known passing down in distances and situations and true dropbacks,
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  Speaker 1: then you can have that interior b ed In Ogunjobe
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  Speaker 1: or ed In TJ. Sanders or Ogen Jobey and Sanders
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  Speaker 1: a multitude accommodation side. You kick Michael Hoyt inside, you
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  Speaker 1: could landon Jackson inside. Depending on who makes what and
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  Speaker 1: how things go right, you get even potentially to kick
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  Speaker 1: Bosa inside or Groot inside, depending on what they want
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  Speaker 1: to do. I think they've set themselves up for more
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  Speaker 1: of an inside rush presence, which is no shock there
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  Speaker 1: given all the three texts they have and what Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Bean said after the draft. But we look on this
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  Speaker 1: team really the only true one tech from a starter's perspective,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how you view Zion Log or Ilionkhu. Still
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  Speaker 1: I'm not counting those guys further down the jet chart.
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  Speaker 1: The really only true one tech they have is Daikwon Jones. Now, yes,
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  Speaker 1: Larry Ogunjoby can moonlight there a little bit. TJ. Sanders
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  Speaker 1: can moonlight there a little bit, especially if he plays heavier.
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  Speaker 1: He's his weight is fluctuated in positive ways right like
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  Speaker 1: he's playing anywhere from two ninety to three oh five
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  Speaker 1: or three hundred. Apparently he's around three oh five or
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  Speaker 1: three ten right now, So maybe he stays at that weight.
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  Speaker 1: And if he does and can maintain the violence and
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  Speaker 1: pop and juice that he plays with, I am all
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  Speaker 1: for it. But being even said his primary primary position
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: would be more of three tech and then he tried
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: to walk it back like two days later. But I
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: do think when you look at the top four, Ogunjoby's
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: suspension not being discussed, it's at Oliver Daikwan Jones Silario, Gun, Joey,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: and TJ Sanders, which leaves Defensive Tackle five being a
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: conversation between Dwayne Carter and Diane Walker. What I think
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: is interesting for Walker, and let's see where r JA
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Evens said it. He said, I think Walker is more
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: of a project. He needs to completely change his body position.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I think him in composition and gain weight in his
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: tiny stick legs. RJ also said, I don't understand how
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: they can't teach someone that six foot seven and three
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty pounds not being able to too gap.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Your ginormous coaching should be able to teach him how
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to be a giant pluging monster. So this is interesting though,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: right and Pop said it too hard for a six
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: foot seven guy to stay low, especially if he has
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: back problems causing a leverage problem. It's that's part of it,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: like his physical makeup is part of his play style.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And yes, granted, you could coach a guy and tweak
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a guy a little bit, and if he grinds hard enough,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: he can improve his pad level a little bit, but
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: so much of what he's going to be is tied
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to what you guys have said in the comments already
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and really what is kind of been floated around a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: bit since draft day. I know I put out several
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: pieces on it. So much of Dion Walker is going
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to be if he can do enough with body composition
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: and health. He's got a defect in his vertebrae that
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: is a serious issue caused him problems in twenty twenty four.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: But even without that, you know, and RJ alluded to it,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: he is a He's an interesting case study, and I'm
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: just gonna go off my evaluation for my notes here.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: He is a top heavy player with lean legs and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: like a very lean lower body in general. You see
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: how big he is. If he weighs three hundred and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: thirty pounds, it looks like two hundred and eighty of
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that is from his stomach up. Like he's got a
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: lean lower body. So part of the back issues that
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: you have with him is not only that he has
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a defect in his vertebrae, which is significant, but also
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the way he's carrying his weight is also not helpful
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: for his lower back and or just how he kind
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of plays. But we'll continue to go through his evaluation.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So top heavy with lean legs, he also plays high.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: The combination of being top heavy, having a lean lower
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: body and playing high will lead to him getting displaced.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: You will see him get knocked off the ball and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: get driven back three four five yards vertically right like
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: straight back. You'll also see him struggle to anchor horizontally.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: If there's a zone run and he starts to get
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: washed down, it's hard for him to kind of anchor
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: and stop just getting completely washed down the line. You
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: can prove some of that right with pad level, with
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: block recognition and understanding and all of that more awareness,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, the way he's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: built doesn't lend itself to certain aspects of play style.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: In a similar way to Greg Russseau, Greg Russau is
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: never going to be this change of direction monster bendy
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: dips like centered athletic edge. You are not going to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: see Greg Russo dipping and bending and running the arc
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and ghosting underneath tackles hands because that's not how he's built.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And similar you're not going to see certain guys who
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: are smaller and dippy and more bend to their game.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: You're not going to see them play with the length
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and the compression that Greg Russou plays with so it's different, right.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I think Walker's body composition and frame speaks a lot
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to how he played at Kentucky, which is one gapping, penetrating,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: getting upfield. I do think he has the length and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the size to two gap a little bit more, but
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: he's got to be more consistent with his hand usage,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: more consistent with taking advantage of that arm length. What's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: also interesting with him in Kentucky a lot of alignments
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that he played in along that front, so A four,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: A four, eye, three five, A wide nine throwers who
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: don't know, essentially he lined up everywhere from outside the
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: tackle to head up on the center. So I didn't
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: even mention zero tech, which is what he did as well,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: even to wide nine, like lining up like spots outside
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the tackle and like kind of outside a tight end
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: if a tight end was there, even if the tight
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: end's not there, Like imagine like a ghost player there
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: next to the tackle, tackles the end man on the line,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: ghost man, and then Walker. They used him all over
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the place, which speaks to how light he is on
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: his feet and how much he's more of a penetrator
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and a shooter than he is a stout anchor in
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the middle meat and potatoes type of guy. He's got
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: good quickness in short areas, especially for his size. Again,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: more of a penetrator than a plugger. His go to
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: move is a quick swim, either right on the snap
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: or right after it. He does a decent job recognizing
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: gap scheme runs with pullers and zone blocking. He's inconsistent
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and disengaging from blocks in both the run. In the past,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: he lets blockers into his body, doesn't make regular use
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of his length. He also gets laid into his stance
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: a lot. You'll see him just getting into his stance
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and the ball is snapped and it leaves him in
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: disadvantageous positions. And then, as I also mentioned, he'll get
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: washed down versus zone not the best horizontal anchor, potentially
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: due to frame and or build. So all that being said,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: if they can get him to reshape his body enough
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and get his back into a healthy enough spot, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: those are huge ifs, right, If Dean Walker can reshape
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: his body enough and reproportion some of that weight in
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: some of that build, change his body composition, which is
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: a significant ask, and if his back is good enough
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and healthy enough something Brandon being already spoke to like
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: he already spoke the day after they drafted him or
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the day of you know, him being picked, talking about,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you know, we want to take care of his back.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: You might not see him a ton this offseason. You
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: might not see him a training camp if you don't.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: This is why, so on and so forth, all these pieces.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: So they're already trying to get out in front of
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that potential not even potential defect, because it is a defect.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: They're already trying to get out in front of that
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: being an issue for them, which is understandable. And with
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: their medical staff, with the way that they've kind of
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: helped guys back in the past, with the way they've
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: previously been good with injury prevention and injury maintenance and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: recovery and all that kind of stuff, you would think,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: positively if you want to have you know, air on
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: the side of you know, positivity or glass half full.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Like Kent says here in the comments, Walker's only twenty one.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He's now in the NFL with the best doctors, strength coaches,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and regular coaches. He has a good chance to thrive. Sure,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: glass half full, that is definitely a possibility. What I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: think is tough is it's still a large ass because
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you have to be getting someone to read like, to
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: change their body composition while also maintaining and trying to
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: strengthen a defect in their vertebrae is a large ask.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: We'll see if he can do it, you know. And
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: as people you know talk about the twenty twenty three
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: tape was better than the twenty twenty four tape, I
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: still do think the issues that he struggled with on
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four tape are on the twenty twenty
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: three tape. He's getting displaced, he's playing high. So it's
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: not all just well it's because the back injury and
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: because the back injury. It's not just because of the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: back injury. Like he is who he is, for better
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: or for worse, even before the back injury was what
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it was. But I digress to say all those things.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: If he can re shape his body enough and get
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: his back into a good enough shape, which both of
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: those are large ifs, I can see him surpassing Dwayne
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Carter on the interior depth chart. And as Bob says
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: here just asked Ajpanessa, that's a good point, Like, look,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: look how much work it took for aj Panessa to
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: change his body type and play style. Maybe Walker doesn't
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: have to change his play style as much. But how
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: much body changing Epanessa had to do from a workout standpoint,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: from a diet standpoint, changing everything He was still working
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: on it, like to like a couple several seasons into
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: his career, and that was without you know, having a
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: back defect or a vertebrate defect. We'll see what it
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: means for Walker, And again I don't want to rain
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: on anyone's parade. If you like Walker, especially Joe who
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I know loves Walker, and Dwayne Carter, man, you sure
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: know how to pick him at defensive tackle. He could
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: be the prince that was promised and everything could work out.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I just do think it is a lot lot of
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: ifs and a lot of hope. Does that mean it
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: won't happen, Absolutely not, but there is a lot of
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: question marks around that either way. If if Carter can
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: hold off Walker, or if Walker can't get himself into
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the shape, then he needs to. Obviously that looms better
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: for Dwayne Carter, but I really do think there's a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: good chance that even though he's only going into his
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: second year, Like if you tell me that Dwayne Carter
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: gets cut, I am not surprised at all, and part
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of it is because of just what what does his
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: home look like on the interior defensive line. Now again,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: we've talked about the interior being gap shooters, penetrators, all
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Right before they took Walker, you know,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: after day two, Brandon Bean said, you know, this would
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: kind of move you know, Dwayne to more of the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: backup one tech behind Daikwon Jones. He mentioned if they
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: got more of a plugger, then he would still be
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: more of AECH. It just seems like he's kind of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the odd man out, and they were like, well, here's
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do when we'll have him adjust Accordingly,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the issue now with having Ed and having Ogunjobi and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: having TJ. Sanders, all of those guys are better three
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: techs than Dwayne Carter. And Dwayne Carter even if he
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: bulked up, like, it's not a size issue, Like, I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: don't see him as a one tech, especially with how
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: he struggled last year against the run. He was just
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: getting blown off the ball horizontally, vertically, individual blocks, double
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: team blocks, like base blocks, multitude of things. He's just
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: getting knocked out of gaps and knocked out of holes
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: left and right, which is troublesome. And his calling card
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: coming out of Duke was, Oh, he fits the bills
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: because he's a one gap guy. He's a penetrator, He's
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: a shooter, pass rush, inside rush type of guy. So
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I wanted to discuss some metrics for him and speak
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: on why he could get cut again if Walker can
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: get his health and his body into the shape that
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: it needs to be, even if not, even if Walker
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't pan out, I don't think they'd cut both of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: them or get rid of both of them. But either way,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be hard for Dwayne Carter
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: or for Dion Walker to get into that top four.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Once Oga Jobey's suspension is lifted. With Oga Joby suspended,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I think you're probably looking at ed Day Kwon Sanders,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Carter or Walker. We'll see from there. But then once
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Ogunjoby comes back, Carter and Walker are both fighting for
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: roster spots. That's the way it is at this point.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: So some metrics. For last year, there were one hundred
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and fifty one interior defensive linemen that had at least
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: one hundred snaps Dwayne Carter was one hundred and nineteenth
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and pass rush productivity also, out of those one hundred
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and fifty one interior defensive linemen, he was one hundred
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and forty six in pass rush win rate measured by
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: PFF and at his pressures plus beaten defenders minus unblocked
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: pressures and then divided by the total pass rush snaps.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: And then from a run defense standpoint, there were one
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three qualifying interior defensive linemen with at
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: least twenty percent of run defense snaps. Last year, Dwayne
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Carter was one hundred and twenty six in stop percentage.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: His issue coming out of Duke was, you know, displacement
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: against the run and run defense in general. Right kind
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of get knocked around a little bit. Like I mentioned
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: his calling card or what he wanted to see, what
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: he could hang his hat on, or what you thought
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: he would hang his hat on based on the tape
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: of Duke, and based on his skill set was being
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a pass rush guy, like the ability to penetrate get
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to the quarterback. He was never at Duke, this guy
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that was going to eat up blocks and handle double
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: teams and anchor and do all this stuff on the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: interior that a one tech would do. So hearing Brenton
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and then seeing how he played as a rookie and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: struggled against the run, and then knowing what he was
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: at Duke, I find it very very very very very
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: hard to see Dwane Harter being a viable one tech
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: on a good interior defensive line, Like he could be
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a one tech for someone if you just need to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: get a body there. And that's with the Bills. Again,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the Bills don't gravitate towards stout guys, despite the Tyler
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Williams conversation. Even with Daikwon Jones, they had him shed
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: weight when he came to the Bills. Daikwon Jones is
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: played between like three hundred and seven and three hundred
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and ten pounds, Like that's how big they like their
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: one tech So they're not looking for guys that are
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: like three fifteen, three twenty three, twenty five. Again, Tyler
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Williams caveat, so they're okay if you're if they're one
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: techs are three h five or three ten or if
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: even like Larry Ogunjobi, like guys that are more like
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: you know, three four defensive ends. Previously but can be
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: more of a three tech, but ca moonlight a little
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: bit as one tech that is kind of what they
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: go for, and they gravitate towards so that overshadows this
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: whole conversation, right, It's not even oh well, Dwayne Carter's
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: not a one tech. He could be a one tech
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: for the Bills, like just with the size and the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: type of play style they look for. It's not just
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the size, it's the play style on top of it.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: The issue is, I don't think he's shown anything from
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: a play style standpoint that makes you think he can
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: be a consistent one tech or even a consistent three tech,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: like especially with what they did on the interior. If
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Walker is good to go, it makes me think Carter
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: is cut or they're just gonna wave him or put
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: him on practice squot and see whatever they can do. Like,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I just I don't see him making the roster if
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Walker shapes up to be what they want. If Walker doesn't,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: then you've got Carter. They're waiting in the wings, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he can be a rotational guy however you need him
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: either way. I just don't see him as of this
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: moment being a significant contributor to this team in twenty
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: twenty five or unfortunately for him, and especially when you
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: pair in with how twenty twenty four went, and again
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: just with some of the metrics. I'm not gonna repeat
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: him again, but you're minimal in terms of pass rush pop,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you're minimal in terms of run defense. So was Austin
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Johnson that second wave was an issue. You've upgraded that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: second wave with Ogan, Jobe and Sanders already, but Austin
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Johnson struggled last year. He's gone. They brought in Jordan
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Phillips and Quentin Jefferson, two guys who are one no
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: longer on the team right now and two who were
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: brought in off the scrap heat from other teams, and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: they both beat Carter out for snaps when it mattered
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: most down the stretch. So isn't even just my analysis
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: or my thought. I think the team is also telling
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: us they don't necessarily believe in Dwayne Carter at this
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: point and kind of hedged their bets with what they
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: went after. So at the end of the day, they've
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: still opted against a stout presence inside again, Dion Walker
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: is not a stout presence, went through his evaluation. They've
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: opted for more juice and penetration and inside rush. Which
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: is their mo and which is their archetype. I'm very
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: interested to see what TJ. Sanders can be. I'm very
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: excited to kind of get first eyes on him at
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: camp and see him in the preseason. I liked his tape.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I had him peg for the Bills before they signed
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Larry ogun Joby. If you follow me on Twitter or
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: seeing the shows I did during draft weekend, I just
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: thought once they drafted Ogan Jobey they would lean more
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: towards a truer type of one tech. But again, like
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I said, they went with you know, the archetype is
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: the archetype. They went with juice and penetration and violence
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and pop, and that is what TJ. Sanders is. He
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: also can too gap a little bit and play some
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: gap in a half, but he's again not the biggest dude,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: has a bit of a narrower base, can get displaced
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: now and again. But there's a lot to like with TJ.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Sanders' game. I'm very excited to see him play. But
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: he's he's He's much more that Ed Oliver Mole than
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: anybody on the inside. And he ogn Joby and Ed Oliver.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I think are all different shades and variations of one another.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Even Walker Walker is just a larger version of all
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: of them, just a little less juice, a little less pop,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: But the idea is the same. The philosophy is theme one,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: gaping penetration, all that kind of stuff. Sanders is just
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: more violence, more quickness, more juice, more technique, a lot
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: of fun pieces. It'll be interesting to see what we
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: get from this interior defensive line this year. Overall. Answering
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the question though, in terms of how much better would
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's defense be in twenty twenty five, I
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: think we start with these individual position groups. I do
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: think the interior defensive line is significantly better than last year.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily, I'm talking on both sides of my mouth here,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: not necessarily because I think Sanders is gonna be amazing
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and Okun Joby is gonna be amazing. I do think
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be good, but more so, just what they
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: got from the second wave last year was just so
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: not good. Austin Johnson was very an effective, Dwink Card
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: was very ineffective. Jordan Phillips and Quentin Jefferson, I know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: depending on you know, who you follow. They had some
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: good pass rush metrics, but it's really because of small
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: sample size than it is actual effectiveness. If you watch
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the tape, they were also not good. Aside from Ed
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Oliver and Daiquon Jones, you did not really get NFL
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: caliber play on the interior of the Bills defensive line
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: last year consistently. I think they've made significant strides towards
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: getting that this year. I think once Ogunjobi comes back
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: from the suspension, you've got a fine top four with
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Ed Dayekwon, Ogen Joby and Sanders. Then I think you
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: get Ed and Daikwon on early downs and then on
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: third down or pass rushing down in distances and situations,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you take out Daiquon and then you've got a three
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: man rotation from a pass rush, inside rush and juice
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: perspective between Ed, Ogen Joby, and Sanders. So you let
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Daiquon just feast against the run, work against the run.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: That should keep him fresher as the season goes along.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I think also kind of having him niche down helps
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the interior defensive line in addition to helping him, and
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: then let Sanders and Ogunjobe and Ed work the regular
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: rotation amongst themselves and Daikon, But when it comes to
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the passing stuff or true dropback situations, you let the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: inside rush guys hunt. And that's just from an interior perspective.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: That's not even talking about rotating in the edge guys
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and all those pieces. Then the versatility up front and
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: all the things they can do. But I do think
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: they got better, and it's now it's just a question
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: of I think there's more questions on the back end
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: than there is on the top. I do think the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: top four is set ed Daikuon, Ogen Jobe Sanders. Ogun
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Jobe suspended for the first six games, so we'll see
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: who steps in. Is it Carter, is it Walker? Even
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: if you know Ogunjoby wasn't suspended, it's still interesting to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: see kind of what happens on the back end of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: that D line because if Walker can get himself into shape,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I think Easter passes Carter, just based on what Carter's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: tape was last year and what some of the breadcrumbs
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the bills are dropping around Carter kind of means a
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: little bit. Also within that, Larry Ogunjoby's on a one
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: year deal, so if Carter can, you know, get himself
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: really get in a good spot with the team or
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Walker Ken. You would like that because again, Ogunjobi's gone
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: next year, Daikwon Jones is on the last year of
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: his deal, so you have questions at defensive tackle going
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: into next year. It would be nice if you had
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: some semblance of a core between Ed and Sanders and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Carter and Walker, or Ed and Sanders and one of
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Carter or Walker. Someone's gonna get an opportunity on the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: back end between Carter and Walker to win a spot,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and I think one could force the other one out
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: unless they, you know, have some roster gamesmanship when it
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: comes to injury and IR spots and all of that
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I got a super chat here from Carl.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Carl says, first of all, thank you for being here.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Carl.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I think if the super chat, Carl says, if you
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: are so down on Deon Walker, can you explain why
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Bean had a first round rating on him in twenty
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: twenty three? Can he be what Brandon Bean saw in him? Again?
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: So first thing one, everybody evaluates people differently, and not
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: even just for me, right like I do this here
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: as essentially a part time job, but something I love
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and I study Brandon Bean does this professionally. But even
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: aside from that, professional people, scouts, GM's coaches. You could
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: show one guy's tape to ten different people and you
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: could get ten different grades in evaluation. So people see
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: things differently, they value certain things differently. I will say
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I think the ceiling is what is intriguing about Walker
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: because at the size that he is, how light he
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: is on his feet and how he moves is just very,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: very very intriguing. He's almost got like some bounce to
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: him with how he moves and athleticism and the multiple
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: alignment possibility. So if you can change some of that
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: body composition, repurpose some of that weight, he could be
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: a really impactful guy. I don't know if he's ever
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: going to be like a sixty percent seventy percent snapshare guy,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: but I think he's somebody who could have an impact.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: The issue that I have is I just think he's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: more of a one style kind of guy, not necessarily
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: a one trick pony, but that's the one style on
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the trick that the bills like on the interior, So
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: he fits their archetype. He fits what they like, and
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: if you can clean him up a little bit right
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: from a body standpoint and from a health standpoint. And
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you know, if you believe in yourself from a technique standpoint, right,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: we can teach him to use his length better, to
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: teach him to use his hands better. We can get him,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you know, better from the neck up in terms of
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: recognition and diagnosis and all that stuff. If they really
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: believe in him like that, you know, that'll change the
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: grades too. I all think. Also, what's a big thing
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: as well, You'll player interviews go a long way towards
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: determining grades. And I'm not interviewing these players, and I'm
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: not behind the scenes with them, so i don't know
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: them as people. I can just watch on the tape.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And you know, there were some other people too, But
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: there were a couple of people where I talked to
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: this offseason who had Carter head Walker is like a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: top ten player going into this year. So again, he's
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a huge dude, but he moves very nimbly and light
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: and bouncy. I think that attracts a lot of people,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: presents a high ceiling for some. I just think I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: just think there's cause for concern given the pad level
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: he plays with the leaner frame. I just think there's
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a lot to be done there. And as Noah says here,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: he says Walker is untapped potential. I think you can
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: make that case. I just think there's a lot that
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: goes into tapping into that potential. I don't think it's
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: necessarily like, you know, here's a good example, right, Like
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau was a big, like untapped potential type of guy.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I thought his path towards being a successful NFL player
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: was more attainable than Walker's is, which is part of
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: why you took us in the first and you take
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Walker on day three. But just kind of put that
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: into perspective as well. But yeah, I do think there's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: potential there for Walker. I just don't know how likely
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it is that he hits it. And I do think
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: there are some red flags that are going to be
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: hard to clean up and fix within him just because
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of how he's built. Even if he fixes the weight,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: even if he gets the back issue, you know under control.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: You know, those things will help with the red flags
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and the concern mainly playing high and the leaner frame
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and how that leads to displacement. But I do think
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I still think there are going to be some causes
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: for concern there, but again, if you've got him within
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: a solid rotation, I think there's an opportunity for him
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: to be a rotation player. And yeah, so at the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: end of the day, interior defensive line, I do think
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: they've gotten better on the interior and we'll see what
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: happens on the back end. You know, camp will be
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: really interesting to see how Walker shows up, if he
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: gets put on IR, if he's practicing, how much he is,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: how much he isn't, and Dwayne Carter is gonna get
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: a real opportunity. Like this offseason is very big for
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Dwayne Carter and this season is very big for Dwayn
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Carter because Ogen Jobe is suspended for those first six
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: games and there's a chance that Walker gets put on
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the IR or they just handle him with kid gloves
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: as they try to get his body into the healthiest
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: state possible. So Dwayne Carter's going to get an opportunity.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: We'll see what he does with that opportunity. But at
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the end of the day with Jobi, I do think
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: this is a much better top four this year of
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Ed Daiquon Ogun, Jobey Sanders versus last year's group of
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Ed Daikwan, Austin Johnson, and Dwayne Carter. So better on
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the interior, still operating in that same type of mold,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the one gap, penetrating, get upfield, shoot gaps, havoc plays,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: try and cause chaos in the backfield. You're still gonna
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: have some issues with displacement. You're still going to see
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: some guys get blown off the ball. You're still going
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: to see the Bills defense get dashed on the interior
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: unless they use numbers to stop the run. But I
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: do think they will get more of the offense just
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: as much as they get got Sanders and Ogun Jobi.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: For as much as they'll get knocked off the ball
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit by double teams, they're also going to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: get theirs by penetrating and shooting the gaps and causing
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: problems in the backfield and just being violent on the interior.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: So upgrade on the interior, which is a very good
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: thing to see. The inside rush took a step up,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: The inside run defense took a step up. It's still
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: not where I'd like it to be from defending from
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: a light box perspective, but it's still saw some improvement.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And then the inside pass Rush saw a large improvement
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: with Owen, Joby and Sanders, so overall very positive on
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the inside. As Mike says, Daniel, Jeremiah and mel Kiper
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: both had Walker outside their top fifties. He depended on
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: who you ask. Every evaluator is different, every team is different.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Who knows if the Bills don't take Walker there? Who
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: knows when he when he goes? Maybe the Bills valued
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: him higher than everyone else. Maybe someone else you know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: valued him the same or even higher. They just didn't
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: have the resources. You never know, bom bomb, But yeah, oh,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Gage says, any chance we see some three or four
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: fronts or special dime big Nickel type stuff, anything hybrid,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I hope, So, I really really really hope. So, especially
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: with you know, we're gonna get into the edge position now,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: especially with how the edge grouping is built, I hope. So,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: but I've done this dance like every year, and I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: don't want to get my hopes up too much of
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: being like, yeah, they're gonna do more hybrid fronts and
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get more exotic, and we'll see more sims
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and creepers and five man rushes and six man rushes
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: in more effective games and stunts and all this stuff.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get my hopes up. I would
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: think so, because there is a lot of hybrid potential
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: on the interior end on the outside. But I hope so,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I hope so. Noah says, I really wish this regime
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: would change their way on defensive tackles. I don't want
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: them to completely change it. I just would like a tweak. Yeah,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: but the archetype is the archetype, unfortunately or fortunately how
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you look at it. All. Right, now, let's continue this
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: conversation on the defensive line. Let's move towards EDGE. So
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: on the interior defensive line, I think my highlight was
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: significant changes and improvements to the second wave and the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: rotation on the interior defensive line. With EDGE, I think
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: what they've done this year is really just increased the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: versatility and the depth. I still think there's questions from
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a top end or a top tier perspective, which we're
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: going to talk about here, but at the minimum, you
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: have increased the depth and the versatility at this group
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: are of this group, So right now you have a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: top six edge grouping. Again, I'm not going to read
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: off everybody from the depth chart perspective, But as of
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: this moment, you've got Greg Russo, Joey Bosa, aj Panessa,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Michael Hoyt, Landon Jackson, and Javon Solomon. Now much like
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle and Larry Ogunjobi having that six game suspension,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Michael Hoyt, free agent acquisition from the Los Angeles Rams,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: is also serving a six game suspension, so that'll impact
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: this grouping a little bit. Oh, I already got some
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: love here Curtis and Landis Landis. I read Curtis and Landon,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: and I combined him and I said Landis. Curtis saying
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Landon Jackson was my favorite pick. Kent says he wants
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to bring grout inside once a while. I love that idea.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Paison says he wants Zadarius Smith. R J over here
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: is saying I'm definitely more of a fan of this
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: year's top three picks as posted last year. I love
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Harriston like Sanders and loved Jackson. I hated the Keyamp pick,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I hated the Bishop pick, and was okay with Carter.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it works out better for you. Ralph says the
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: new defensive coaches suggest some new schemes are coming. Yes,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I do expect changes on the defensive line and from
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a blitz standpoint, simulated pressures, creepers, and five man games.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Just given Ryan Nielson's track record, especially with what he
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: did with Atlanta, I know him as defensive coordinator with
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville was bad last year, but they had a ton
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: of injuries. The twenty twenty three Falcons tape was really
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: fun schematically so when he was their defensive coordinator. So
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping we get some of that. Not to mention,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I forget his name, all the time defensive backs coach
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: that came over from New England, all the man they played,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: all the cover one they played. I do think there
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: are I don't want to say I just think there's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: tweaks that are coming. I don't know how much is
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: going to change from a percentage standpoint or a usage standpoint,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: but I do think we will see tweaks and changes
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: to the defense. I just don't know what capacity. But
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: let's go through here with this edge grouping. I think,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: as of right now, you have two main questions, or
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: at least I have two questions, But I think there's
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: two questions here surrounding this edge grouping. As of right now,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and the first is who's going to be edge one
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: from a pass rush perspective. I still don't think Greg
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Russau is there yet. I think he can be. He's
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: improved every year incrementally marginally, however, you want to verbalize
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: that he has made strides every year as a pass
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: rusher in his move set, his plan, his understanding. I
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: still don't think he's a true edge one as a
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: pass rusher though, And even just looking at some of
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: his you know, I know some people come through. It'll
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: be like, look at all the pressures that he had.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Twenty eight of his pressures came in three games last
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: year against the Jags, Titans, and Lions. Surprisingly, the Lions
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: have a great offensive line, but he ate in that game. Jacksonville,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Tennessee not so much. So A majority of his production
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: came in three games, which is still impressive. Right, you
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: have multiple games where you know in those three games
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: eleven pressures, eight pressures, nine pressures. So he has the
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: opportunity to become like a game wrecker against certain levels
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: of competition. I would like to see that continue game
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: by game. Reduce the games where there's zero pressures, one pressures,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: two and get to that spot where you can be
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: more consistent and not just feast and live from a
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: volume standpoint off a couple of games here and there. Now,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I do think if he gets better running mates at
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: the edge spot and on the interior, that also helps him.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: If TJ. Sanders can be what he projects to be,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: if Ogan Jobe can be what they need him to be,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: if Ed continues to be a factor on the inside,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: and then depending on what you get from Bosa, depending
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: on what you get from Jackson Solomon Hoyt when he
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: comes back from his suspension. I do think the supporting
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: cast helps Greg Russomore as a pass rusher this year.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: But as of right now, I think he's a very
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: solid Edge two as a pass rusher. But even within
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: some of the metrics, I still don't think he's a
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: true edge one as a pass rusher. Now still top
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: tier legit edge one versus the run, one of the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: best run defending defensive linemen let alone edges in the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: entire NFL, so tremendous. So again that edge one conversation,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: who who is Edge one as a rusher? I think
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: there's two possibilities within that is it? Greg Russau. Does
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: he make that leap, Does he have another season of
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: making improvement as a pass rusher and he becomes a
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: true overall edge one, or is it Joey Bosa just
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: from the rest of the group. I don't see Aja
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Vanessa being the edge one as a pass rusher. I
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: don't see it being Hoye. I don't see it being Jackson,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I don't see it being Solomon. I think if they're
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: going to have a true edge one as a pass rusher,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: it's either Greg Russeau making that leap or it's Joey
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Bosa staying healthy. If Bosa's healthy, I think it's him.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: But the health is a big, big, big, big, big, big, big,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: big big big question. Obviously we know this. I'm not
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: going to dive into too much of it. But if
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Bosa can stay healthy, whether it's stuff that Bill's training
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: staff does with him, or if it's the snap count
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: and the usage and he doesn't have to play as
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: many early downs to stop the run like he did
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: with the Chargers, whatever the combination is, if it allows,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: if he stays healthier with the Bills, I do think
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: he can be an edge one as a pass rusher.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: That aspect of his game is still there might be
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: a lower tier. It might not be you know, top
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: five or top ten pass rushing edge like he was
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: in his prime with the Chargers, But I still do
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: think he can be a legit edge one, maybe just
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a lower mid tier edge one, depending on how the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: things fall, if they all fit fall the right way
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: for him. So that first question with the edge grouping
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: is who's going to be edge one or do they
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: should say do they have an edge one as a
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: pass rusher. I think it's either group taking the leap
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: or it's Joey Bosa staying healthy. The second question that
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I have with the edge grouping is who steps up
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: from essentially everyone else, but I just labeled who steps
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: up from the depth. Is Michael Hoyt a chess piece
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: game wrecker? Do they line him up kind of like
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: what the rams? Did he use him in that spinner
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: roll where he's lining up off the edge, he's at
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: off ball linebacker and he's blitzing, he's lining up over
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the center, he's in the a gap, he's stunting, he's looping,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: he's spiking like all these things. Do they use him
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: that way? Or is he just to force off the edge.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Does Aja Panessa round back into more of a rush
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: form or is he more of just an early down
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: snappy ter playing the run like he was last year?
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: What does Landon Jackson give you as a rookie? Is
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Javon Solomon a thing who steps up from that grouping?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: But also who steps up with Michael Hoyt's suspension? Does
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: his suspension open the door for someone to fill a
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: role or fill a spot and not let go Overall
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: with the edge grouping, I don't think this group is
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: top tier, but I think they've got a good mix
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: of role and depth potential. And if they can just
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: get Greg Russo to take a jump or get Bosa
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: to stay healthy, I think that could really kind of
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: push this group over towards being a strong aspect of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: this team. I think Grout taking a jump or and
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: or Bosa staying healthy. If they get both those things,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: that's amazing. But group taking a jump or Bosa staying healthy,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: they could have a quality unit that can provide impact
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: in a multitude of ways up front, which is exciting.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: So overall, I do think this edge grouping is better
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: than they were last year. I see Bosa as an
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: improvement over von Miller. I know some people will hang
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: on the metrics for Vaughan. I don't think the metrics
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: spoke to what the tape was. He had some really
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: good flashes, but I don't think his tape was as
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: strong as some of the metrics would indicate. And I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: do think they've upgraded at the edge spot. We'll see
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: how much a lot of that is going to be
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: tied to what kind of tier they get from the
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: top guys being Bosa and group against the pass. As
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: far as defending the run, I got no concerns.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: A j.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Vanessa has become a good run defending edge group's a
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: good run defending edge or a great one. Actually, Michael
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Hoyt can defend the run. Land and Jackson can defend
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: the run. Like I'm not worried about the edge grouping
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: playing the run at all, just more of what did
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: they get from a pass rush standpoint. But I do
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: think they've improved the edge grouping versus last year. Ralph says,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: is Hoyt the next Arenze Alexander? He could be. I
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: like that idea. I like that, you know, kind of
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: monster man chess piece spinner role being back in this defense,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Ken says, I really don't like the idea of not
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: knowing our D line identity for six weeks and then
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: trying to figure it out from there. I also don't
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: like that either, But you know, if the Bill's got
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: to figure it out, we got to figure it out.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe other teams have to figure it out too.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: What else?
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: There was some comments I wanted to get to kmore,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: he says late to the show. Is this the Saber's
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: therapy session? I refuse to anowledge Sabers aside from that comment,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: but fair enough. R J says, ed Oliver only plays
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: well against good competition as to be a coaching thing, right,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: This trend goes back years as well. He just doesn't
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: step up against bad onlines he had. You know, he's
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: He's performed against a multitude of guys, both good and bad,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: quality and not quality. I think the biggest thing is
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: he's just gone away when the lights have been the brightest,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: you know, just play. Not in the Bengals game, and
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: there were coverage aspects and issues that kind of messed
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: up the defensive line, but then just getting waxed by
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Tony two seasons ago and the Divisional round was unfortunate.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: He did play really good in the AFC Championship. Ed
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Oliver had a very good AFC Championships and was one
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: of the bright spots on defense against the run, against
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: the pass. I just I think with his size, you're
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: gonna get that fluctuation. You're gonna have games where he's
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: crushing it in games where it's not. He's an outlier
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: from a size perspective, so I think that outlier leads
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: to ebbs and flows in his performance. But we'll see
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Charles says, is Hoyton edge or a linebacker or both.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping he's more of that spinner type role where
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: you don't know where he's coming from. I want to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: see him everywhere. I want him line up at edge.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I want him lined up at off ball linebacker and blitzing.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I want him dropping into coverage'll every now and again
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: as they run sim simulated pressures and creepers. I want
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: him line up in the A gap and spiking and
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: taking out guards and centers. I want him doing everything upfront.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Like I think he is a solid chess piece. I
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: don't think he's this a tier completely change your whole
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: defense type of chess piece, but he is a quality
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: chess piece. I hope they use him everywhere. Ken says,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: My question is how many snaps does Bosa average in
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the regular season? Oh, I feel like third. It's going
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to depend on the game script for me, but I
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: would think like twenty five to forty depending on the game. Yeah,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: and I would keep him. I would keep that horse
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: in the stables unless I absolutely, absolutely absolutely need him.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about land and Jackson briefly because
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I know several folks in the chat really like him.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I'm lukewarm on land and Jackson. Please don't yell at me,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Please don't get upset. And it's mainly just I'm very
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: wary of guys that are high cut, and he is
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: a high cut guy. It's not just that he's tall.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: It's that he's tall, but like majority of his hype
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: comes from his leg length. He has a shorter type
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: of torso he's a very long guy with his legs.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: He's very high cut, and that tend when guys are
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: built that way, it tends to lead to minimal lower
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: body flexibility, and that's what you have with him. So
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he's high cut with minimal lower body flexibility, and you
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: really see that when he tries to turn the corner,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: try and run the arc, or try to transition on
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: play action, really violent hands. He loves the you know
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the jumping or the eurostep cross chop where he gets
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: that cross arm in and pairs it with a club
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: and then rips right through. Good linear explosion. That's where
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you see that rascore. He tests it off the charts
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: with you know broad jump and the vertical jump. Those
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: are explosion measuring tests at the combine, and you see
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: that he is again he's not this big change of
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: direction Marvel, this loose, bendy, fluid type of athlete, but
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: he is a straight line, explosive guy. Line him up
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: out wide and let him just go through somebody, use
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: his violent hands and his length and his explosion and
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: just go through people or set an edge or not
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: get displaced. Multiple linement opportunities. He was used all over
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: the defensive line in Arkansas, not as much as Walker,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: but still a good amount a lot of stunt work
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: as a spiker games up front, he slants a bunch
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: His pass rush counters and transitions need work. I think
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: that also ties into him being high cut and playing
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: you know, with that lower body type of stiffness, you
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: will see him kind of play upright and play high
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit similar to Walker, which is decently understandable
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: because saying Land and Jackson six foot six and Dean
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Walker six foot seven, so again playing a little high,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: them being high cut a little bit of lower body stiffness.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: So that's some costs for concern, and then how that
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: affects his you know, his pass rush, counters, his transition,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: his plan, his moves in general, really forceful tackle. If
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: he brings his whole body through contact, he's trying to
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: bury dudes on contact and with that linear explosion. This
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: is one of my big parts of my notes here,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: that linear explosion should yield better speed to power like
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: him bolt rushing guys, him going through guys and driving
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: them back into the court back's lap. But he gets
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: stalled out because of how upright he plays. So when
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: you want to see somebody if the tackle is like this,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: you want to see him be more like that and
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: get into him, not completely horizontal, but play with more
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: leverage and be able to go through and knock him back. Instead,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: he kind of plays more upright, So then it's just
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: force hitting force and kind of seeing him stall out
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: a bit. But if they can change his pad level
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit, get him to play with a bit
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: more lean, play with a bit more leverage, I'm excited
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: to see what he can be. I was not a
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: big fan of his. Again, high cut guys scare me
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: from a play style standpoint, but I think he fits
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the archetype. I think the value is potentially really good
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: considering they got him in the third I forget where
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: he was on my edge rankings. I'm saying this now
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: as I stall to go back and look into my
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: notes because I posted them all. Where was he? He
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: was edge eight for me in this draft class. So again,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: I think there's he's got some stuff to offer. It's
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: just high cook guys like that scare me in terms
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: of what they can be. I think his future and
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: projection and trajectory in the NFL is like a high
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: tier Edge three to maybe a low tier Edge two,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: which is cool, right. I think he'll be a reliable
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: run defender, violence, physicality, hustle, juice, explosion fine and if
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you can if you can clean up some of his
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: angles and leverage play in terms of how he comes
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: off the ball, get him to stop playing that high,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: get him to stop stalling out a little bit, let
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: him really take advantage of the length and the juice
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: and the explosion. That would really, really really be exciting.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: But I just I just think, I just think some
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: of his ceiling is capped because he kind of has
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: one direction that he can play into because of him
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: being high cut and then having some lower body stiffness
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: with minimal flexibility, and then just in the playing upright
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: and high a bit too much. But overall this edge grouping, Oh,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Dennis says over under on Jackson's Oh, Hoyt's gonna miss time,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say four and a half. I'm gonna say
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: four and a half. Also, depending too, I'll also want
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: to keep this caveat depends on what the schedule looks like, too, right,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: because I assume he'll see more playing time with Hoyt
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: having that suspension in the first six games. But I'd
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: like to see who they play in those first six games.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: But I think I'm gonna set the over under right
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: now on four and a half, maybe five and a half.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I think over under over under on four and a
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: half because that length and that motor will also allow
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: him to clean up some stuff. So you can get
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: that disruption from Sanders or Oliver Rogan, Jobi or even Rousseau,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: and then Jackson can clean that up a little bit,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: which is interesting. Kent says. The Bills seem to like
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: the more straight ahead defensive ends, but still have trouble
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: with contain. I hate to admit it, but I would
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: like three linebackers once in a while. That's fair. You know,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of it. Some of it is scheme based, right,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Like if these guys are dipping inside, they're not responsible
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: for contain anymore. But but I do think the mold
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: that they gravitate towards. The architect that gravitate towards are
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: compression style rushers. They don't look for dip guys, bend guys,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: guys that have great change of direction and agility. So
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: because they don't look for guys like that, they look
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: for more, like you said, straight line linear. Hey, drive
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: this tackle back into the quarterback's lap, use length, use compression,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: use power, all that kind of stuff, right, They want that,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: But that type of body type and play style doesn't
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: really lend itself towards you know, if a QB tries
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: to run, they their edges usually don't have the best
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: foot speed, and they don't have the best change of
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: direction or agility or bend or athleticism. The kind of oh,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: let me put the brakes on, sing my hips a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: little bit and get back out and make a play.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: It is more upright compression style guys. So again it's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: give and take. You can only have so many eggs
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: and so many baskets. They choose to have their eggs
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: in that type of compression style. Back John says, isn't
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: von Miller an outlier? Signing? Yes, absolutely, Even Leonard Floyd
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: was a bit of an outlier as well. But those guys,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I think they went that way just because they were
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: proven veteran mercenary type of guys on the edge. But yes,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: von Miller is an outlier at edge for them in
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: every way, shape and form, from a play style standpoint,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: from a build standpoint, I just figured they made exception
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: because he's von Miller. Same thing with Leonard Floyd. Like
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd is a good edge rusher, So I figured
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: they just made the exception. Bom bomb Kevin says, hopefully
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: all these tall draft choices on the D line can
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: bat down passes regularly, that would be really really nice,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Bill says, an't what eleven would you like to see
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: take the majority of first and second down snaps against
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. Man The Ravens are a unicorn and an
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: awesome offense. I still don't think the Bills are built
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: to stop the Ravens offense. And that's with say Flowers
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: like being banged up in the playoffs. Like I think
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: I said something in my head that I didn't say
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: out loud just now. The Ravens offense, for as much
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: as like Lamar shot themselves in the foot and you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: know Terrell Bernard forces that fumble on the big Mark
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Andrews completion, the Ravens offense really had their way with
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the Bills defense. And they're Mark Andrews drop away from
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: tying that game, you know, when they needed to. In
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: the second half, they had their way with the Bills
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: on the ground and in the air. Lamar marched them
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: right down to potentially tie it at the end. I
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: still don't think they're a good matchup for the Ravens.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think there are many defenses that match up
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: well with the Ravens. But if we're talking about how
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: to match up with the Ravens, I am we'll see
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: how they you know, they developed through a year. But
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: I really do think it's more three linebacker sets or
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: walk into safety down into the box. I think you
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: have to beat them with numbers on the interior and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: just styming him that way. You have to gap out.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, Okay, this guy can play a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: gap in half, this guy can cover two gaps. No,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: you just have to attack them from number standpoint. I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: think against run heavy teams that are good at running
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: the ball in general, not even just the Ravens, I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: think the Bills still need to gap out basically what
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: they did against the Lions last year, right the idea
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: of using numbers to defeat the run. The Bills came
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: out against the Lions and had like eight or nine
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: guys in the box on the first play, and that
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: was the mentality they played with for the majority of
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: the game. They were like, you are not going to
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: run the ball, honest, they were run blitzing and stunting
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and gapping out left, right and center. I think that's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: what the Bills will have to do against the Ravens
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: and or against any run heavy team just because of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: how they're built. Defensively, Klaude says Philly matched up well
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: with Baltimore. Philly also had like a rotation of seven
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: eight deep dues on the defensive line that were all sick,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: and then a really good secondary on top of it.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Two and also a really good defensive like coach, again,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: some teams match up well with Baltimore and Philly, isn't
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: is I think an exception one of several, just given
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: how they are. Argie says, I think the best way
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: to beat the Ravens is you take away the pass,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: let them run, and they have your offense score at
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: least thirty four points. Yeah, I don't think there's ever.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're stopping the Ravens right, Like if
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: you want to take the run take I do lean
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: in that direction, though, like take the runaway and then
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: see what happens with the pass. Not because Lamar can't pass,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Like Lamar is a really good Mar's a great player
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: and a really great passer and good passer and good
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: QB in general. But you just can't do both. You
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: can't try to stop Derrick Henry and stop Lamar Jackson
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and stop the pass like you got to pick one.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: So I'd rather just sell out against the run as
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: a whole, and then if Lamar beats you because he
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: threw for four hundred and sixty yards in four touchdowns,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: like it is what it is, unfortunately, but I'd rather
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: go out that way than have Derrick Henry run for
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: like one ninety and Lamar run for one to ten
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: and Justice Hill run for thirty or forty like that's
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to die that way against the Ravens. Again,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: I think Lamar still can beat you as a passer,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: but at least I can niche down and silo that
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit more than having to deal with the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Derek Henry run game, the Lamar run game, all that
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. John says, just tell Lamar it's a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: playoff game and we'll be fine. I mean again, I
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: know he turned the ball over a bit against the Bills.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: He still balled out in that second half against the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Bills and drove the ball right down the defensive throat
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: to tie the game, and then Mark Andrews dropped that pass.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Granted it wasn't the best throw from Lamar, Andrews still
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: should have caught it and scored it, and we should
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: have had a tie game at the end of that fourth. So,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know he hasn't played great in the playoffs,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: but his most recent game he drove out Ravens right
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: down the field to and did what he needed to
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: do to get them into scoring position, and then they
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: scored and then they had to drop. So again, I
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: know people make jokes, but I think Lamar is an
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: awesome player, and I think some of the playoff stuff
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: is a bit unfortunate. Oh, I forgot they got Malachai Starts. Yeah.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Curtis says that Stark pick hurts man. Malachi Starks and
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton woof is a sweet combination as safety. Yeah,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the Ravens got a really fun safety grouping. I love
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Malachi Starks. Yeah, that's super cool, and says at some
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: point Henry will get old, maybe in twenty thirty. Yeah,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: his off season like workout routine is legendary. He just
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: keeps his body in such great shape and his diet,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: how much he spends on his diet and how particularly
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, he's a well oiled and fueled machine.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: John says if Lamar doesn't turn the ball over twice,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: we lose by double digits. You know what, man, Yeah,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: those turnovers It's hard to quantify how much. But yeah, man,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't turn the ball over because the Bills
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: didn't correct me. If I'm wrong, chat feel free too.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Bill's got to stop aside from
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the turnovers. So who knows. Maybe those drives that the
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: turnovers happen, they continue and maybe they miss a field
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: goal or they something else happens. But yeah, I don't
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: think the Bill's got to stop defensively aside from the takeaways,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: which again is part of how they played for the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: majority of the year. But yeah, man, now that Dennis
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: says it's a shame that the Ravens are so good.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: It makes their friends even more insufferable or their fans,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I think you met Yeah, oh there you go. You
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: put fans. Yeah, you know what. I never had a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: problem with Ravens fans. They were very obnoxious in the playoffs,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: but a lot of Bills fans were obnoxious too, So
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I think you kind of give what you get. I
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: think I think anytime you have a good football team,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: it's a Harvey Dent Dark Knight scenario where you either
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: die a hero or live long enough to see yourself
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: become the villain. And in this sense, dying a hero
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: means being the fan of a bad team and live
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: long enough to see yourself become the villain means being
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: the fan of a team that's become good and eventually
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: you turn and just become obnoxious and awful. But yes,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: the Ravens fans are brutal, but I've seen a lot
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: of Bills fans be brutal the way I always see
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: it too. Like even before last season, I was like
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: just doing my analysis of the NFL, and like I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: would post something about Lamar and I would just get
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: so many Bills fans who would just come into it
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: and just rag on Lamar left and right. That was
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: just super unnecessary. And I think Bills fans do that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: to Lamar. Raven Stands do that to Josh Allen, And
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of this cat chasing its tail of
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: you know, or a chicken egg scenario or whatever, where
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: everybody's just sparking off the other one. But yeah, it's
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: become a very interesting rivalry between Bills and Ravens. I
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's a rivalry on the field as
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: much a it is between the fan bases. But it's
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: interesting how that is escalated a little bit. Good conversation piece.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you for for that in the chat. And again
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: just to wrap it up with edge, I think, okay, John,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: thank you, John. John says Ravens didn't punt, but they
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: did attempt two field goals, so we got two quote
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: unquote stops. Thank you very much, appreciate that. So yeah,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I think they have improved the edge grouping. We'll see
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: just how much I think the flour of the edge
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: grouping has been raised. I think the versatility and the
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: depth is much better this year than it was last year.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I think the ceiling of this group in twenty twenty
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: five will be tied to how much of an edge
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: one they have as a pass rusher, whether it's group
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: making that jump or bots is staying healthy and being
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: that guy. Another position on to talk about here is cornerback.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Nothing too crazy here for the Bills, but a lot
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: of moving and shaking at corner, highlighted by a potentially
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: new cornerback too, and a lot of new depth. So
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: as of right now, Christian Benford, Max Harston, a returning
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: to Davius White, are returning Dame Jackson, JaMarcus Ingram, Dorian
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Strong rookie out of Virginia Tech, and then year two
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: day Kwon Hardy. This group has a lot of depth.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I think they have significantly raised the floor for this group,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: which is very exciting considering corner as a premium position.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: The ceiling for the Bills Corner grouping obviously very dependent
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: on Max Harston and what he gives. What I think
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: is really interesting about the Harston pick, and I talked
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: about this a bit on Twitter and on some of
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: the post draft shows, is he brings elements that really
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: haven't been present in this Corner grouping at all, let alone,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: like from a prevalent standpoint, speed, juice, recovery, athleticism, quick
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: trigger twitch, like he's just a different type of athlete
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: with a different type of speed and juice and electricity
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: at corner than the Bills have had. He also has
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: questions on his tackling, which is very different than what
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: the Bills have had at corner. Granted, Tredavius White wasn't
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: necessarily the best tackler coming out of LC or even
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: necessarily on tape but he cleaned up some of those
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: pieces and would come up responsibly as a force player,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: but wasn't the best tackler. Harston is a very willing tackler,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: just smaller frame, bit of a leaner frame, doesn't lend
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: himself here, doesn't give him a very you know, high
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: margin for air when he goes into the tackle point
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: and then being inconsistent with his angles and decisions as
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: a run defender, you know, kind of all adds up
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: together in terms of having some struggles against the run.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever gonna be a plus run
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: defender as a corner, but I do think the Bills
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: can make him functional, just with how much they value
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: that aspect of playing corner and how willing Harston is.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: So maybe get him to play a little had a
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: little more muscle mass. Maybe if he can get to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: a consistent playing weight of you know, one ninety to
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: ninety four, thicken up a little bit and then clean
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: up some of his angles and technique at the tackle
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: point and decision making. I think that'll go a long
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: way for him. Again, because he is a willing tackler,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: He's just leaner, a bit smaller framed and then inconsistent
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: from a technique standpoint, but from a coverage standpoint, man,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: just I'm just gonna go to my evaluation here. Where
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: is it a a zone coverage corner who wins a
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: lot in off coverage but has a skill set and
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: athletic profile and some tape. I mean, I stumble over
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: that his own coverage corner who wins an off coverage
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: but has a skill set and athletic profile along with
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: some tape to suggest he can be successful in man
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: and press. He's got very calm and clean feet, clean
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: falling apart, He's got very calm and clean feet, good
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: recovery speed I'd say, plus recovery speed plus athleticism again,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: willing but poor tackler. Angles and decisions and run support
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: as far as fit and force are questionable at times
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: and inconsistent. Also flings his body more so than tries
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: to step with same foot, same shoulder. He's able to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: get back in phase when fulled versus vertical routes due
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: to his athleticism and speed plus short area burst. He
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: can play the left side or the right side. Does
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: a good job in zone collecting routes. Also has good
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: zone spatial awareness He's able to fall off at coverage
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: in bake quarterbacks, functional as a cloud corner, functional in
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: a deep third and cover three. He can play some
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: man press and off. He'll let wide receivers into his
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: blind spot and can be fooled a bit at times
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: in resent in stems against wide receivers, and you'll see
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: him kind of get turned around and inside out. But
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: then that's where the athleticism comes in, because he'll get
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: fooled and then just get back and phase because he
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: has so much juice and speed, a strong trigger and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: burst to close on underneath routes, a very good twitch.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Play strength will be a concern given his lean frame
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: at the tackle point in stems against wide receivers. Anywhere contact,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: he'll fall off. Guys a bit patient went in off coverage.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: He trusts his eyes and his speed. He's able to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: sit on routes and then comfortably turn and run as needed.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: He keys wide receiver's hips as he turns and runs,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: and he has the feet and fluidity to throttle down
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: and stay close hand usage in route stems to establish
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: feel and obstruct opponents. He can be better versus back
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: shoulder throws. You'll see him kind of get thrown by
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: or kind of chucked a little bit, especially against bigger
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: body type of guys, but really exciting athlete. I'm excited
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: to see what he brings from an on the field perspective.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, Eric and I talked about this a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: bit on the Saturday Morning Show when we wrapped up
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Harriston's film when the Bills took him on that Friday
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: night or Thursday Night'm sorry, the Friday Morning Show. I'm
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: thrown off with my days here. We've talked so much
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: about the bills restricting airspace by getting you know, another
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: a corner two that can live and succeed and thrive
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: and be effective and pressed man. So that way, you know,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: throw off the timing. Let's get into the kitchen of
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: these wide receivers and make life hell for them coming
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: right off the line. I think Harrison has the potential
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: to be that guy, or even work in some of
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: some of that a bit as a rookie. But I
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: think he can be that guy going forward with proper coaching,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: because he has the skill set and the profile athletically
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: for it. But he can squeeze windows and restrict airspace
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: in zone from off garverage because of that quick twitch
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: and that trigger and burst that he has. So you know,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: instead of having you know, passes completed underneath and you
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: don't have maybe the twitchiest athletes closing down on them
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: from the outside, now you've got Max Harrison who's kind
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: of inviting those underneath throws so he can trigger on
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: it immediately and come downhill. So I do think they've
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: increased the opportunity at corner in conjunction with Benford to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: restrict airspace and squeeze windows, just in a different way
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: than I necessary initially thought and or hope for with
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of wanting Trey Amos or that type
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: of corner more of a press man type of corner,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: but that that off coverage and being able to trigger
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: down quickly and end accurately from Harston is really impressive.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: It'll serve him well, you know, just even outbreaking routes
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: and stuff. If you are if as a quarterback, if
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: you're not on time with your throw, or if the
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: ball placement isn't where it needs to be, if it's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: slightly behind the receiver, or if you're slightly off with
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: your timing, He's gonna jump it. He's gonna knock it down.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: He's gonna pick it like he's got real juice at corner,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: which is awesome to see. And again that how he
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: can close that space underneath with his trigger and his
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: twitch is gonna matter a lot also within this corner grouping,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: I really like having Trey White back as CB three
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: or CB four, depending on how you view the other corners.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: He's been around the block, he knows this team, he
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: knows the culture. He's smart as hell at corner. Similar
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: idea for all of what I just said with Dan
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: Jackson as well, just on a bit of a lower scale.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I really like having Trey White and Dane Jackson is
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: Corner three and Corner four. I don't want hold on.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I got back this up here. RJ says, well, we
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: also got the best press man corner in the draft
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: along with Strong.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're being sarcastic or I don't
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: think Dorian Strong is the best press man corner in
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: the draft. I like some of what he does. I
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: have to finish my email on him, but I don't
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: think he was the best pressman corner in this draft.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: But I think somebody did. I saw that somewhere. I
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: don't know who said that, or I don't know if
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Rjbreen sarcastic or not. I don't think he's the best
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: pressman corner in this draft, but he does that. He
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: does do some positive things. But ah r J says
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: that was according to Greg cossell and no, I think
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Greg Cosell said his coach at Virginia Tech said that
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: he's the best pressman corner he's ever been around. I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: think that's what That's what it was. Greg Cosell said
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: that one that Dorian Strong's like secondary coach or defensive corner.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: One of his coaches at Virginia Tech said that Dorian
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Strong is the best pressman corner he's ever been around,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: which is still a compliment. But I think that's that's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: much different than saying Cosell or a few GMS said it.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe a few GMS did say it. I don't know,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: but I think the Cosselle comment was one of his
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: coaches at Virginia Tech said he's the best pressman corner
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: he's ever been around, which is still good. You know,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you want to hear that from coaches, but I also
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: take that with a bit of a grain of salt.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: But I like the floor of this grouping. I like
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: having Trey as corner three. I like having Dame Jackson
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: his corner four. I hope neither of them have to
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: be the full time CB two or CV one, you know.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I hope Harston and Benford pan out as a duo
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: and a pairing from a health standpoint and from an
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: effectiveness standpoint, and then you can just have Trey and
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Dan Jackson be real quality safety nets like that would
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: be super awesome to have. And then after that you've
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: got JaMarcus Ingram who's got some inside outside versatility. You've
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: got Dorian Strong, You've got Daiquon Hardy, who I like
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: last year. Will see what he can be. I think
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: you just you've really significantly raised the floor at corner,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: and then the ceiling could really be raised depending on
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: what Max Harston is and we'll see what that is,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: you know, as a rookie or what he is going for.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: But I like this corner grouping, how it's shaped up
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: as a unit, what you can do schematically. I think
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: now that you've got an athlete like Hairston with the
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: with the zone coverage shops and even the athletic profile
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: and skills set to play a bit of man even
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: though he's not the biggest guy, and he's gonna have
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: to be sharp with his technique and his reads because
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: he will get flung flung around a bit. You've got
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to play a bit more single high coverages
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: in terms of both Cover three and Cover one, which
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: is man coverage on the outside, and then use that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: other safety to help play the run to fit the run,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: either post snap and trigger down and buzz down or
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: be in the box from a pre snap alignment or decision.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Because you've got two corners on the outside and Benford
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: and Harston that allow you to kind of live on
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: islands a bit more and use more bodies to play
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: the run, I think that will go a long way
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: towards helping the run defense this year. Again, I still
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: don't think they're built to defend the run from light boxes,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: given how light they are on the interior and how
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: smaller they are at the second level with Bernard Milano
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: and even Teraren Johnson and being a nickel defense and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So I think their best
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: way to defend the run is with numbers and you
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: can you can feel more comfortable committing a safety to
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: the box if you've got corners like Benford and Harrison
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: on the outside, Guys who can you know, play one
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: on one and live one on one a bit. John
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: come in with some snarks saying Easter is over. By
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: the way, John, I spoke about this in the beginning.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I did not update the background. It'll be updated for
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: a Memorial Day theme considering the holiday that's here this month,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: but I decided to leave the Easter stuff up. One
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: because I really like this decor behind me, but also two,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: so I thought the pastels worked well for Mother's Day,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: which is this weekend. So I appreciate you acknowledging the
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: background and your snark as well. Anthony says, I believe
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: in Joe Hendry. I like that nice wrestling reference. Well done. Yeah,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: so I like with this corner grouping is I'm really
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: interested to see kind of what happens for CB five
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: and even maybe CB four, like Ingram Strong, maybe even Hardy,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: like who wins that CB five spot? Do any of
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: those guys push Dane Jackson out as CB four because
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: also within that too, like right now for this year
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, CB three, and CB four I expect
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: to be some combination of Trey White and Dane Jackson,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: but both those guys are on one year deal. So
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: in an ideal world, maybe one of the younger guys
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: ingram strong, hardy, maybe particularly strong. If one of those
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: guys can win the C before job, then maybe that's
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: your CB three next year. Again. So I think camp
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: in the preseason is gonna be really interesting for the
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: bottom of the depth chart at corner because not not
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: only do I think those guys are staking a claim
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: to a spot this year in twenty twenty five, but
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: if they're all potentially staking a claim and planning a
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: flag to be CB three next year once Trey and
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: Dane are gone, which will be uh really uh really
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: really really interesting. Say sorry, mister beginning something eleven short
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: months away. Fair enough, fair enough, h Dennis says, can
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: hair Harrison blitz. Yeah, you can blitz him off the corner.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: He's got the speed and the juice for it. It's
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: just gonna be a matter of can he bring the
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: quarterback down because of again, size, frame, angles, all that
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: type of stuff. If he gets chipped a little by
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: a tight end or running back he might get run
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: around the article, kind of pushed around the QB, but
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: he's got the speed and the juice and the tenacity
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: for it, which will be fun. Todd says Anthony, what
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: draft pick was the biggest steel for the Bills this year? Oh,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: it's tough. If Jackson pans out, it's probably landing Jackson
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: because they got him in the third and technically like
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: they traded down and got him right now. I'm just
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: going going with Jordan Hancock because I think his versatility
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: and the athleticism that he brings as like a depth
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: safety and a depth nickel guy, and where they got
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: him on Day three in the fifth round, I think
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: that even though again that might not be sexy and
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: it's a Day three guy, but that would be my vote.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: If Jackson pans out, it's probably Jackson. But yeah, Kevin says,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: can Hancock be a good safety? I hope so. I
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: see him more as a box guy and a nickel defender,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: more of a slot in apex who can do some
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: safety stuff. I think he can live in split field coverages,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: but he's at his best in and around the line
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage and the box kind of just going forward
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: left and right and just being big and athletic. Todd says,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: do you think Hancock will push Lewis out? I think
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: he has a chance to. And that's really saying something
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: because I think Cam Lewis put a good season together
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: last year and he's proven to be a quality guy
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: for them. But man, Hancock has the size and the
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: athleticism and the physicality that I think could really do
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: a lot for this defense. I also think it's interesting too,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: like can he function enough at safety? Does he get
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: enough looks at safety in camp and do well enough
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: then that they move on from DeMar Hamlin or Derek Forrest.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: I think Derrek Force is a real dark horse to
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: be the starting safety opposite of Taylor Rapp. That's conversation
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: for another time. Yeah, I think Hancock is. I think
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Hancock is the chance to push somebody out. It could
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: be Cam Lewis, it could be DeMar Hamlin. I like
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Hancock's tape. I think I said it when I was
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: on the rock Pile Report last week. Hancock was a
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: guy who I watched a ton of Ohio State tape
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: this draft cycle, offense and defense, but especially defensively. Between
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: tylerk Williams and j T. Tumoloau and Jack Sawyer and
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: Cody Simon, and then I really love Caleb Downs, who
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: will be drafted hill next year. So I was watching
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: tape for him and Jordan Hancock was number seven, and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: I kept seeing seven flash like he would just make place,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: like he'd make a really good hit. It wasn't a
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: ton like, though he's not doing it like five to
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: six times a game, but every game I watched, he
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: would flash in some way, and I told myself to
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: go down, or I wrote down. I told myself to
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: go back and watch Hancocks like TA figured out who
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: seven was, and I just never had the time and
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I never went back and did it. And it was
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: so funny when they drafted him and I was like okay,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: and I was like, wait a minute, that's that's seven.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: And it was cool to go back and watch his
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: tape because he flashed a bunch of the pre draft process.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I just never went into the ebaut because I never
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: had the time for it because he was down the
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: board more. But I thought it was a cool pick.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: On day three. I think he has a chance to
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: push out Lewis or push out Hamlin. He has true
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: like safety and slot versatility. I think more slot and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: apex than he does safety, but that's a roster spot.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: He's got good athleticism, he's got good juice. He's got
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: some size to him, like six one and one ninety five,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: so I think he's got to do that gives you
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: an opportunity from a roster saving standpoint, because he special
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: team snaps back up Nickel maybe a death safety, Like
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: you get three roster spots in one, and he's got
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: some versatility to do that. Could see that, could could
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: see that. Adam says, who's our best one high safety.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's six to one a half a dozen
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: to the other. I think Taylor Rapp is the the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: best single high state. Honestly, it might be Derrick Forest.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: I think Taylor Rap is the best from a reading
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: the game standpoint mentally, but he's not the most athletic
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: and doesn't have the best foot speed. Bishop is the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: best single high safety from an athletic profile standpoint, but
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the you know, between the ears and the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: mental side of it like Rap does. And then you've
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: got Forest, who I think has some of the athleticism
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: but also some of the ability to read and diagnose,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: so it's like six to one half a dozen of
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: the other in a multitude of ways. It might be
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Forest because he's like the best of both worlds combined,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: whereas Rap is strong and one and deficient in another,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: and then Bishop is strong in one and deficient in another.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: So it might be Derrick Forest, which might sound crazy
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: and might be awesome or terrible, depending on what that
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: makes you think of the safety room. And then Ron
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: says Hancock has more speed in the secondary, something the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: defense needs. Yes, he had speed. He had speed and
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: juice and pop and a little bit of size, which
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: is nice to have in the secondary in general. And
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: you can play in different ways, which is fine. So yeah,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: I like that Hancock signing work drafting, I should say.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so at Corner kind of wrap up the
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: Corner grouping. I think the Bills have improved here at
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Corner as well. Last year it was Benford and Douglas
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: and then Kyer was your three. I think Trey White
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: as right now, even though I know Trey White isn't
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: the sexiest, I think Trey White is a better CB
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: three than Kyri Elam. I have more faith in Trey White,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: even though his tape wasn't the sexiest. But I mean,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: I don't have faith in kyri Elam from a down
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: to down standpoint anyway, So it might be another six
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: and one half a dozen to the other. But I
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: like Trey there. Harriston is obviously a projection. We don't
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: know what Rasseul Douglas or how Harrison will be compared
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: to what Douglas was last year. But from an athletic
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: profile standpoint and what it means schematically, I like that
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: as well. And then overall I just like the depth.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: So I think it might be a bit of a
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: push if Corner as a whole is better, But I
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: think the floor has been raised, the depth has been raised,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: and the athletic profile has been raised, which is really
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: really really, really really fun to have at Corner. RJ says. Meanwhile,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the Ravens have both starts in Hamilton. That team will
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: be impossible to beat. They're gonna be a hard squad
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: to beat, man, I mean, they were a hard squad
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: to beat in the playoffs last year. They're gonna be
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: a tough out every single year. They're a really good team,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: which is unfortunate for the Bills. John says, really looking
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: forward to training camping because because d line CB and
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: safety will have a bunch of competition appso lootly. Ken says,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: I have confidence and Bishop he just needs to learn
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: to be a pro. That's fair. Last position I want
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: to talk about. I mentioned linebacker a little bit. I'm
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: interested to kind of see just what the linebacker grouping
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: is this year. From a usage standpoint, we continue to
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: see Dorian Williams getting some work as that third linebacker.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Can anybody supplant byal inspector is linebacker four? I don't
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: think there's too much here aside from just you know,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Dorian Williams is your linebacker three. If anything happens to
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Millard or Millard, I combine names again. If anything happens
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: to Blana or Bernard, he's that next guy who steps
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: in if they go with three linebackers, it's Dorian Williams.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: We'll see how he continues to trend and what his
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: trajectory looks like. I still do think he has room
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: for improvement and growth. And wasn't this amazing stud like
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of people build him out to be. Last year,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: but he showed a lot of improvement from year one
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: to year two. I'm interested to see what he becomes
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: in year three. The linebacker's been a sent in and
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: forget it really with the top three unless you know,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: you know, no jinks injuries happened. Safety is when I
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: want to touch on briefly. You know, Taylor Rap, Cole Bishop,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow Hamlin, Derek Forrest, maybe Jordan Hancock, depending on how
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: the Bills view him or where they want to deploy him.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: I do think Taylor Rap starts. I think the Bills
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: want Cold Bishop is safety two, but I think it's
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: a legitimate three man race to see who the other
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: starting safety is. If you told me Cole Bishop wins it,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. If you told me Tomar Hamlin
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: wins it, I wouldn't be surprised. If you told me
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Derek Forrest wins it, I wouldn't be surprised. Hell, even
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: if it's a different combination. If it's Bishop and Forrest,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: if it's Forrest in Rap, if it's wrap In Hamlin,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: if it's Hamlin, like you could make a case that
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: any one of those guys could be the combination of
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: the pairing. I do think Rap has the inside track
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: to be a starter, and I do think they want
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Bishop to win the other job, but I do think
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: it's a legitimate competition. I would not be surprised if
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Derek Forrest starts. I like this tape more than I
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: thought I would. I'm also maybe a little biased. I
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: like this tape at Cincinnati coming out several years ago.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Safety is going to be a battle and a fun one.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: We'll see. And again, who knows what would happened last
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: year if Cole Bishop didn't get hurt in training camp,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: and if he does this year, is it Hamlin again?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I put a tweet out earlier today that was kind
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: of surprising DeMar Hamlin led the Bills defense and snaps
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: and snaps per game in twenty twenty four, like they
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: just like him and feel comfortable with safety, as unsexy
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: as he may be. I would like Bishop to win
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: the job. I would, you know, like Forrest to potentially
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: win the job. Hamlin would be my fourth option in
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: terms of starters, but he is reliable and responsible, and
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I do get it. I like the safeties individually more
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: than I do as a pairing and as a duo.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: I've spoken about it a ton on the show. I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: just don't think I think you know Bishop and Rap specifically.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Both of their skill sets lean towards being better in
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: and around the box and around the line of scrimmage,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: but neither are the best like single high option, you know.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Like I mentioned earlier, Bishop has the range for it,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: but doesn't have the processing and the eyes yet for it.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: We'll see if he does in year two. Rap has
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: the eyes and the processing for it, but doesn't necessarily
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: have the range and the athleticism for it. Rap is
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: better around the box, but so is Bishop. Bishop's also
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: more athletic in around the box the cover tight ends
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: and cover receivers, but he's gotta again be able to
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: understand leverage and spacing the way Rap does. It's just
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: weird how they just coalesce into a unit. I don't
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: really dislike any player individually. I still don't think cold
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: Bishop was an ideal fit for the Bills defense that
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get into that too much. I've
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: spoken on so much on the show, so we'll see
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: what he is in year two. I think safety is
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: interesting just as a grouping and as a pairing. I
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: think you can make a case for a multitude of
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: combinations starting at safety coming out again, if you told
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: me there was any combination of those four guys or
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, if Jordan Hancock balls out and wins
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: the spot, I think that's further down the list. But yeah,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: it's interesting for me. Ron says Bishop and Forrest to
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: start fair enough. Kent says, great point to me, the
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: safeties don't match. Well. Yeah, it's interesting just how they
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: all mesh together. But I mean, I don't think Hamlin
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: and rap meshed well either. He didn't need Neither of
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: those guys were rangy guys. Neither of those guys were ballhawks,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: plays on the ball type of guys. They also kind
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: of like what they like in the secondary eric safety,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I should say Cole Bishop is a bit of an
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: outlier with how much of an athletic profile he had
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: and then how he played, what kind of defense he
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: came from at Utah, And again he was more of
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: a monster man in and around the line of scrimmage
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: like Apex. Sometimes he's dropping deep, but he was just
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: all around the box in the line of scrimmage. Now
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: he's having to play more deep and more split field
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: stuff with the Bills and more pro style coverage. So
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: it's just interesting how everything kind of comes together at
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: that safety spot. I do think, yeah, I just the pairings.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: I just I just don't I just don't know how
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: well they compliment each other, any of the pairings. Honestly,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: the best the best pairing is probably like Forest and
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: Rap or Forest and Bishop, which might be crazy unless
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: unless Bishop takes a step in his processing and how
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: he sees the game, then it could still be Bishop
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: and Rap. But competition, It'll be fun in camp to
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: see that. Cam Moorey says that Hamlin lead and snaps
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: because he played through the blowouts while others sat Maybee
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: and also too like Taylor Rap got hurt for a
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: little bit, Bernard missed some time with injury. So yeah,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: there are some variables that were thrown in there. But
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: I just wasn't expecting to see demorrow Hamlin as the
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: leading snap getter from a snapsper game and volume standpoint
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: of surprise. Maybe maybe not surprise thing to anyone else,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: will surprising to me. Arjie says, with people feel better
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: about Hamlin if he didn't have three turnovers taken away
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: by officiating, I personally wouldn't I don't even think of
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: that when it comes to my evaluation of him. It's
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: just it's just his skill set and the trace that
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: he has and what it means for the defense in
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: terms of how they can play. I just think your
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: ceiling is very capped. If Jamar Hamlin is starting, If
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: tomorrow Hamlin is your starting safety, I think like that
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: means that you need to be loaded everywhere else on defense.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: And I just didn't think the bills were I don't
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: even know if the bills aren't now so so for me, no,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: that doesn't influence me, but it might for others. Adam
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: says a cold Bishop's play worthy was impressive. Never know
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: how they called it a catch. Two things. I'm fine
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: with it being a catch. I do think even though
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: it touched the ground a bit, it was trapped and secured.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: It was a good play by Bishop. But also it
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: should have never gotten to that point where it doesn't
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: have to be reviewed. Is it a catch? Bishop saw it.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: He should have made a better play on the ball.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: It was a good play by Bishop, but I fault
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: him for not making a clear and decisive stop with
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: that ball in the air like he should have. He
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: should have made that play, but overall, the jump and
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: everything was impressive. Ron, I saw your comment earlier and
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: I started, Ron says, do you think we need to
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: add a linebacker? And then I'll tie this in with
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: the other question, Ron saying, what position groups? Do you
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: still see us adding a player or two? I could
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: see them adding a linebacker potentially, you know, just if
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: they don't feel great with Specter being linebacker, for maybe
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: he's not linebacker. For maybe it is you know, Ula Fotio,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: or it's Joe Andresen. But I could see them adding
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: a linebacker. I could also see them adding someone on
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: the defensive line, not necessarily like a high priority guy,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: but just a camp body, you know, or somebody for
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: you know, the down down the road, given the suspensions
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: or things like that. But on the defensive side the ball,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: I really do think they're set for the most part.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule out a linebacker. I don't think safety,
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  Speaker 1: although that's got a possibility. I really think it would
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: be kind of a linebacker ka Morris's. Maybe they see
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Hoyt as sort of a linebacker. I do think you
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: could get some linebacker reps out of him on third
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: downs and rush situations. But I don't think he's in
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: every down off ball down to down linebacker where he's
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: going to play coverage and he's going to be doing
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: things like that. But I do think they could use
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: him as quasi linebacker in different pieces in places. Kent says,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the Bills have no money. Yeah, they're
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: strapped to the cap, but there's always ways to fit in.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: Like a veteran here there like a one year, two
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: million dollar type of deal, three million dollar type of deal,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: void years, how you spread it out and pro rate
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: it and all that kind of stuff. So if they
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: wanted to sign somebody, they could, I think it would
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: be more of if they add a player or two,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be more of a cheaper,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: can't body deaf guy trying to add somebody and kind
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: of go from there. Carlosa's Hide employer both seemed to
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: have high football IQs. They did and played well together
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: as they knew where the other would be, which safeties
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: would work the best together and be where they need
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: to be instinctively. Wow, good question, Oh, Forest and Rap
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: if you're going off of football IQ and being and
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: talking about like knowing where the other will be and
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: work the best together. Okay, let me unpack this football
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: IQ and knowing where the other will be. It's either
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: Rapid Forest or wrap in Hamlin working the best together.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: That's going to be very like I talked about earlier,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: based on skill set where they need to be instinctively.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can make a case for really any kind
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: of pairing k Morris's Malchi starts and Javon hallm that's funny. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I really do think overall the kind I answer this question,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: I know I bucketed it a bit. If you're just
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: talking about knowing where working together and knowing where the
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: other is going to be, it's Wrap and Hamlin because
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Hamlin's very responsible. He's where he he you know where
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: he's going to be. He's not going to be out
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: of place. He's not looking to jump something. He's not
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: trying to go rogue and make a play on the
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: ball or you know, bite on this and try and
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: trigger and make a play. He's going to play his
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: job safely and responsibly. Rap does that as well, just
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: with a little more force and a little more anticipation
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: and a little more athleticism. Bishop I think is not
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: there yet from a football IQ, not not from I
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say fotball qu from a processing standpoint, given how
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: he's still adjusting to playing further away from the line
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: of scrimmage than he did at Utah. So Forrest, I
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: think is really the most intriguing one, and I would
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: put him into this conversation. There's really a good question, Carl.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that Ken says Bishop has the upside to
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: play him to gain the IQ. That is true. You know,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: more time on task should in theory, you know, get
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: him more up to speed. The more he sees the
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: game with real snaps, whether it's in camp, preseason, regular
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: season snaps. The more he's actually getting, you know, live
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: bullets experience playing further away from the line of scrimmage
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: in this defense, in theory, the better it will make him.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: The question is, is is that trade off, you know,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: letting him get that time on task, is it better
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: or more beneficial than having somebody who might be ahead
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: of him now maybe like Forrest or even Hamlin. Depending
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: on how you leave these guys, safety is going to
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: be really interesting. It really all comes down to just
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: where Cole Bishop is from a processing standpoint, because he's
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: got the athleticism. It's just a matter of a well
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: he can play within the scheme and structure and within
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: responsibility an assignment sound standpoint, it's just so it's so
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: funny too, like Hamlin is so assignment sound but just
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the athleticism of the juice, and then Bishop
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: has the athleticism and the juice but just isn't assignment
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: sound yet, And it's just it's just so funny, like
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: how they built this room and I don't Hamlin's not
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: going to take a jump athletically, so you're hoping that
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: Bishop takes a jump. From a processing standpoint, We'll see
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: it'll be pretty fun but overall, how much better With
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: the Bills defense being twenty twenty five, I want to
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: use this episode to kind of set the table. We're
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be getting into more schematic things going forward, individual
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: player looks and some tape and schematics and metrics as
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: we go forward this offseason on the show here. But
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I wanted to use this one to kind of set
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: the table for that. And I do think that Bill's
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: defense will be better in twenty twenty five. I do
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: still think displacement against the run will be an issue.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: I do think there's gonna be an issue with you know,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: through the spine of guys getting knocked off the ball
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: latterly and vertically. I do think the best way to
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: correct for that is by gapping out and using numbers
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: to stop the run. I do think they're better from
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: an inside rush standpoint. I do think they're better from
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: a juice and violent standpoint and penetration standpoint on the inside.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: So for a team that already created a lot of
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: chaos and havoc, I think they are set up more
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: for that this year, given having Sanders and Ogunjobi, even
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: though Ogunjobe's gonna miss six games, given that building on
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: the inside, instead of having A Johnson and Dwayne Carter.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: And then we talked about what the edge grouping is.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: I like the versatility, I like the depth. I think
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of like B minus and B guys.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe you have a couple B pluses, maybe you have
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: an A or an A minus or two eight minuses,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: depending on what BOSA can be. It'll be really interesting
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: to kind of see what they do. And then I
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: think corner like we just you know, finished talking about
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I think corner got a bit of a facelift and
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: a change with Max Harriston, but also upgrades from a
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: depth standpoint and from a functional depth standpoint. So on paper,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: I do think the Bills defense is better in twenty
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: twenty five in a multitude of ways than they were
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Schematically, we'll dive into that and
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: further episodes going forward, but my interest is peaked, and
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: I am hopeful given kind of how they've built this
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: grouping out and what they've done and how things are
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: kind of coalescing into one in a multitude of ways.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: But I.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: I think this grouping has potential to ease a lot
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: of the struggles or mitigate some of the struggles they've
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: had in years past. I still think displacement's going to
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: be an issue. I still think they're going to struggle
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: against the run at times, depending on the opponent, depending
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: on the matchup. But you could say that for a
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: lot of defenses to play Devil's Advocate, their best option
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: against the run is still going to be penetrating and
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: getting a stop for a loss, or if you want
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: to be assignment sound, it's going to be gapping out
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: and using numbers and making sure they have a body
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: for every single gap that the offense has, which they
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: could do if they walk safeties down pre snap or
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: spin them down post snap, because they have corners on
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: the outside and Benford and Harrison that they think can
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: live one on one. A lot of fun schematic conversations
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: going forward. But I do think this Bill's defense is
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: better on paper in twenty twenty five than they are
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: in we're in twenty twenty four, and I think they
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: have a lot more schematic potential in twenty twenty five
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: than they did in twenty twenty four. They didn't ease
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: my biggest concern again, which was displacement in the spine
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: against the run, but they can mitigate it a bit
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: and succeed in some other areas that may offset that
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: And also a question from rj Ar says, historically, when
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: a team has this many changes on defense, does it
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: take a while for them to gel? Historically? I think
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: it depends. It depends on how which is I know
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  Speaker 1: it's probably a cop out answer, but it depends how
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  Speaker 1: depends on the schematic fit for the players, because it's
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  Speaker 1: not just the changes, it's the schematic fit on top
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: of it. And I think with what the Bills have
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: not a lot of schematic changes. Like TJ. Sanders is
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: a change, is a scheme fit. Landon Jackson is a change.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: He's a scheme fit. Larry Ogunjobi is a change, He's
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: a scheme fit. Bosa is a scheme fit. Max Harston
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: bit of an outlier for them, but also because of
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: how well he plays in zone also kind of a
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: scheme fit. So I don't think it'll take too long
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: for them to gel because they are scheme fits and
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: there's familiarity. There's not too many round pegs in a
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: square hole happening here. It might not be the perfect
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: or most seamless fit, but they are very close. I
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: think they picked a lot of guys who have the
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: skill sets that they value, but also fit some of
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: the archetypes in upgraded ways. And if they have skill
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: sets that are new or traits that are new that
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: they value, like Hairston, they still do fit enough of
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: the archetype from his zone coverage standpoint to succeed and fit.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: So I think that's fair.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Carl shown some love for Tredevius White. Very very very
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: very very very Yeah. I was very good. I was
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: pumped to see Trait White come back. It sucked to
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: see him go out the way he did, so I'm
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: happy to have him back. Kent says, I dig the
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: fact you say on paper, Humble, this moment won't stop.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: We're gonna win one, and we will do it with
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: McDermot Gobills man, I really hope so I would like
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: to not be heartbroken every year. I'm also a Barcelona
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: fan and I am just absolutely gutted today with how
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Barcelona lost against Inter Milan. So yeah, man, man, man, Yeah,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: it's tough.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:46:27
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• 1:46:29
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• 1:46:49
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• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: just saying I know it usually takes less time on
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: offense to gel than defense historically. I think I heard
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: that from Aaron Shafts forever ago. Oh maybe I guess it. Also, Yeah,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: offense too depend for me, it's all scheme and verbage.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: And what do you come from a similar defense? Do
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: you come from a similar offense? Like are you going
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: from a run blocking role as a receiver to more
• 1:47:11
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• 1:47:14
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• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: you playing more condensed? There's so many variables within it,
• 1:47:18
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• 1:47:21
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  Speaker 1: some extra live recorded stuff, and then diving into I
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  Speaker 1: guys who will matter in twenty twenty five and have
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