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So I'm Slow If I Had An IAP?? Feat. @TheFlyGirlCoach (ep 1) · So Shameless

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  Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying, so so shameless, if
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, socious, so shameless, so so so smous,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so shameless, if you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, so shameless.
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  Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, so considered typical or normal.
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  Speaker 2: So like neuro divergent is like the umbrella, and under
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  Speaker 2: the umbrella you have all of the things you have ADHD,
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  Speaker 2: O D D, dick flet dyslexia, bipolar, autism, epilepsy, OCD,
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  Speaker 2: schizoph front of you, like everybody, If you fall under
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  Speaker 2: that umbrella of neuroal diversions, that just means that your
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  Speaker 2: brain does not process things in a way that is
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  Speaker 2: quote unquote normal.
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  Speaker 3: And so when I say that that is am I wrong?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say that she was wrong. But if he's
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  Speaker 2: asking you for a definition, like, actually give him the definition.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that how? I don't know?
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  Speaker 3: So when you you gave the classifications right of neurodivergence,
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  Speaker 3: I think what he means is Okay, what does that
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  Speaker 3: have to do pertaining to my character.
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  Speaker 2: What am I saying? You didn't tell him that? Why
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  Speaker 2: would I give him that?
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  Speaker 3: You that ship is pissing me off? Behind you? No,
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  Speaker 3: I'm it's so on your that's your problem.
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  Speaker 2: So two for two, it's all funny, gess neu diverse.
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  Speaker 2: But when I start diverse, When I start, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to hear anything. Okay, start what? Okay? Okay too?
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  Speaker 3: We still I didn't even start to telling me yet.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even care.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So neuro divergence.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, you're not the only person that's neurodivergent,
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  Speaker 2: and you're when you don't have the same amount of
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  Speaker 2: tolerance and empathy for other people's because you poking pride
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  Speaker 2: of mine but yours is. Okay, bro, what is up
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  Speaker 2: with you? Why we're we're not friends?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 2: So it's me. It's like you start, you start with me,
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  Speaker 2: and then when I say something, I'm the problem. It's God,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, Keep defend from what, Keep going defend from what? Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: The mosquito me neuro divergence. You and the mosquito are
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  Speaker 2: one and the same.
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  Speaker 3: Mosquitos. Don't get me all hot and bothered and ready
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  Speaker 3: to go off I just kill it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm fine, what's the word?
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  Speaker 5: How you doing so?
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  Speaker 6: Anyway?
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  Speaker 3: Because what's the neuro divergence for me? Means I blurt
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  Speaker 3: shit out? I don't process what I'm about to say. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot more to it, but definitely
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  Speaker 3: I think it has to do with ADHD brain when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to me, right, impulsive, very super impulsive.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And I've said this over the course, like since I've
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  Speaker 3: learned about it, like, yeah, a lot of times I
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  Speaker 3: don't realize the impact of what I'm about to say
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  Speaker 3: till after I said it and be like, ah, I
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't have did that one. I shouldn't have did that one.
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  Speaker 3: And I would think that my friend that's known me
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  Speaker 3: for the better part of what seventeen years would know
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  Speaker 3: that about me.
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  Speaker 6: I think calling somebody neurodiversion could be a compliment or condescending,
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  Speaker 6: depending on the context.
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  Speaker 3: The way Courtney said that we was in the car,
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  Speaker 3: we was going to some state and she was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're in the spectrum. You're You're definitely on the spectrum,
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  Speaker 3: Like I think you're nerd of her, And that was insulting.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, yo, bro, that's not how you introduce somebody
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  Speaker 3: to that. But then once I learned about it, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, okay, yeah that makes sense. That definitely makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: It wants to be normal. Another thing. I think that
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  Speaker 3: I've made a good brand out of being new or
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  Speaker 3: di Vergin. I think that's where all of this ship started,
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  Speaker 3: with my personality being different, bugged out what is normal exactly?
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  Speaker 2: Hey? Amy, how you doing? I'm amazing?
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  Speaker 6: Why are you here?
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  Speaker 2: Why am I here? I was invited? Yeah? I work
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  Speaker 2: really well with impulsive people. Do I do?
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't bother me. Okay, I used to
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  Speaker 2: be a corressional officer, so I've been a cop. I
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  Speaker 2: was whatever you want to.
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  Speaker 3: Call it in New York, in Philly? Why you used
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  Speaker 3: to what happened.
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  Speaker 2: Just wasn't mentally there. I didn't want to you quit? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I resigned in twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready for the stage with us? It's
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  Speaker 3: a lot. We do a lot, you know. I triggered people.
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  Speaker 2: Her best friend, Hey, best bright, how you doing today?
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  Speaker 6: Yo?
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  Speaker 2: You're talking to you.
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  Speaker 6: He's looking at you, But.
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  Speaker 3: How are you today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm lovely?
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  Speaker 3: See you went to the jay Z store pop up.
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  Speaker 3: That's dope, that's dope. What did you get for us?
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  Speaker 2: It's my birthday? I got some birthday is in like
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  Speaker 2: two weeks?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is maybe more than that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not really I'm beginning to I'm in my birthday season.
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  Speaker 3: What does that have to do with going to the
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  Speaker 3: jay Z store, buying yourself stuff and not asking nobody
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  Speaker 3: if they wanted anything.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's the birthday of why I went
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  Speaker 2: to the jay Z store and bought stuff for myself
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  Speaker 2: and did not say anything to anybody.
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  Speaker 3: Your husband, I think you said you hit him.
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  Speaker 2: Of course that's different.
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  Speaker 3: So how is that different?
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  Speaker 2: My husband?
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  Speaker 3: I'm your friend that have known for seven eight times
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  Speaker 3: as long as.
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  Speaker 2: You know his nigga? Should have.
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  Speaker 7: You?
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  Speaker 2: Has he ever put j Z on the car? So
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  Speaker 2: have I contact? Should have contacted all my day ones,
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  Speaker 2: even the ones that I've no longer than you. I
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  Speaker 2: should have called to and Will and Davy and Greg
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  Speaker 2: and said, hey, anybody say something.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm had to pop up only here in New
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  Speaker 3: York for two days.
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  Speaker 2: Actually they told me about it, and I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was great.
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  Speaker 3: Trying my asking for too much?
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  Speaker 8: Possibly no honesty? What do you mean it's a lot
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  Speaker 8: like every movie that you make, every move is not
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  Speaker 8: going to jay Z pop ups, all.
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  Speaker 6: Right, So I get that, but that's a lot for
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  Speaker 6: dods like she just rattled up a bunch of names
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  Speaker 6: as they would. That's a lot to think of everybody
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  Speaker 6: when you're going to a public You got a group chat.
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  Speaker 2: I have like eight group chat in some of.
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  Speaker 3: Them there is you can't put it in, Yo, I'm
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  Speaker 3: at the pop up in the group chat, Yo, ya
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  Speaker 3: want something.
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  Speaker 2: So the way that this happened was I got the
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  Speaker 2: email because I'm on the email chain, and then the
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  Speaker 2: minute that I got the email, Greg put it in
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  Speaker 2: the group chat, like yo, if y'all could go here
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  Speaker 2: like sign up or whatever r s VP for like
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  Speaker 2: the dates or whatever the case may be. So everybody
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  Speaker 2: picked their own dates, and I just was like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: in New York tomorrow to record anyway, so might as
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  Speaker 2: well stop there first.
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  Speaker 3: It's my point not proven.
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  Speaker 2: How is that?
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  Speaker 6: I would say, maybe Greg deserves or something. He put
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  Speaker 6: it in the groom.
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  Speaker 9: He's going to put it into his friend's chat, like yo,
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  Speaker 9: that's not the only chat you put it in though,
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  Speaker 9: but he could. He's the catalyst you put it in
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  Speaker 9: the chats.
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  Speaker 3: You're closer. I am copy paste yo. Y'all want to
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  Speaker 3: go to the jay Z problem shop. We just got
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  Speaker 3: the link, you know. Sorry, exactly fine? Now where are
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  Speaker 3: we going later? Dumbo hous oh to the jay z
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  Speaker 3: pop up thing? When you found out about it?
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  Speaker 6: What did you do?
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  Speaker 2: I hit you up because that's your best friend. You
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  Speaker 2: hit up your closest person to you, not everybody. You
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  Speaker 2: ain't hit up every group chat, right, You hit up
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  Speaker 2: your friend. Right, So your man's your day one. You
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  Speaker 2: hit up your day one and say, hey, day one.
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  Speaker 3: I have just said at my west side, I supposed
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  Speaker 3: to hit up to.
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  Speaker 2: He chose his day when he chose you. You said I
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  Speaker 2: had nobody amy.
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  Speaker 3: How do you feel about the situation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with them. I'm with them, that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on an island by myself and here because and
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  Speaker 3: how you're feeling, I don't want to know your opinion.
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  Speaker 3: I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good man. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna have Mercher proper. I know, you know, if
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  Speaker 3: I could make it. I mean, but I seen the
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  Speaker 3: prices of the other stuff though somebody had put it
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  Speaker 3: on the on Twitter, four hundred dollars this, you know,
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  Speaker 3: everybody has so much criticism for whole It's like, how
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  Speaker 3: much was his shit supposed to be?
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 2: But it was only only the jersey, and like the
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  Speaker 2: bombers were like egregiously priced. Everything else was like very
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  Speaker 2: It's just the jersey was.
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  Speaker 3: Four hundred, and that's egregious.
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  Speaker 2: Being the fact that I paid six hundred for my
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  Speaker 2: floor seats. It's a little bit come on some Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's like but I considered for a long while in
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  Speaker 2: this brain of mind, but it's whatever. The shirts are
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  Speaker 2: just regular concert shirts. Like they was like sixty five
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  Speaker 2: dollars that had no the shirt I'm lying shirts was
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  Speaker 2: like fifty dollars that had was like sixty five. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't crazy, it was regular that regular, Like he just
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  Speaker 2: dropped his concert stuff before the concert. That's basically what
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  Speaker 2: it seemed like to me.
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  Speaker 6: I wish I would have got something, man, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to forget what I'm aware.
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  Speaker 2: I've been trying to figure this out for the longest
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Not y'all are wearing jay Z shirts to the jay
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  Speaker 3: Z concert.
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  Speaker 2: I have a thought for the jay Z concert I
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  Speaker 2: had several thoughts, but no, I might wear it the
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  Speaker 2: second day, but not the first day. That makes sense,
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  Speaker 2: like not both days, ye, not both days? Reasonable doubt
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  Speaker 2: day you have something else in my brain. But on
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  Speaker 2: extra innings, I might throw on the shirt. Amen, you
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  Speaker 2: going to the jay Z concerts.
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  Speaker 6: She's going to the State Property concerts.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know if she was there the night
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  Speaker 3: of that when you did the night of the I was.
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  Speaker 2: But being from Philly, I see them a lot, Like
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  Speaker 2: they performed at a lot of things, so seeing them
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  Speaker 2: is like barbershops and yeah, when we Philly have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of festivals, so they're bound to come out like
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  Speaker 2: and we having a big festival. Freeway is Freeway performs
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  Speaker 2: the most out of all of them, Like he's always
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  Speaker 2: there and he has like programs and like stuff in Philly,
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  Speaker 2: so he's very active, so you you bound to see
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  Speaker 2: him Beans too. Beans performed, Beans performed performing. Not nobody
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  Speaker 2: more than Freeway. Though really you can see Freeway.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway past Mark.
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  Speaker 5: Yo nah.
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  Speaker 2: Walla hoo fuo, So I could see.
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  Speaker 3: Not shout out to to my Philly uh bull is
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  Speaker 3: it called it right?
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  Speaker 2: Bull?
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  Speaker 3: Bull? I mean shout out to the Philly boo. But
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  Speaker 3: that was a dope ass moment out there. I wonder,
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering what we're going to do here in New York,
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  Speaker 3: but he's doing a lot, Like where's the project? What's
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  Speaker 3: bill Boyd dropped on that his freestyle was the best
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  Speaker 3: song of twenty twenty six, remember why in the top ten?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of these and I'm jail I'm a whole face.
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  Speaker 3: That was okay, it was whatever, but not listening what.
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  Speaker 2: Else was it? Yeah, I don't need to listen to
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  Speaker 2: it again.
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  Speaker 10: It's just like, right, it was controversial, but throwing it
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  Speaker 10: in the car in Germany, I'm not putting it on
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  Speaker 10: in a high I'm not dropping the top and throwing
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  Speaker 10: that Like, what are we talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Is it even on DSPs?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 3: Yo, I didn't ask you. You literally don't want your opinion.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I didn't ask you. I didn't say nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to whole and the thirtieth anniversary and everybody
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  Speaker 3: involved with everything that's going on. Welcome back to So Shameless.
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: We have a guest here from Philly. Her name is Amy.
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  Speaker 3: I met her two three years ago, right, and you
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  Speaker 3: were brand just called the fly girl coach.
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  Speaker 5: What is that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's my personal brand. I literally just
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: came into it because my recent name was Johnny Shaw,
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: which is a play on the on the Philly word john.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of I feel like, over the years,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people in Philly know me as like
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  Speaker 2: dress and fly into fitness, into being a foodie. So
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like the fly girl coach just would
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  Speaker 2: encompass like everything about me because a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: The coach part would come from, like the the guidance part,
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  Speaker 2: because a lot of people really do like come to
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  Speaker 2: me for stuff. Ridiculous. You're ridiculous, Yo, he didn't just
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  Speaker 2: do that. He's been trying to kill that mosquito. He's
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  Speaker 2: That was the impulse all five pages. It's the I
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  Speaker 2: E P longest. That's what it is. Yesterday, That's what
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  Speaker 2: you started working here because you his power. That's what
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  Speaker 2: he needed you. You fit right, and that's yo. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize that until today. YO, shout out to you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I forgot what it stands for, but I know
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  Speaker 6: what it means.
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  Speaker 2: I know what it means. You had It's like a
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  Speaker 2: one on one.
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  Speaker 6: I go to the principal or something I'd be like, yo,
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  Speaker 6: this is one kid giving me a hard time and
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  Speaker 6: class they'd be like, oh yeah, you got I e P.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, I get it. No.
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  Speaker 2: No, I e P is an individualized education plan. All
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  Speaker 2: it just means is that, like when we do the work,
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  Speaker 2: your work got to be a little modified. That's all.
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  Speaker 2: It's nothing crazy, it's not it's not like a b
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  Speaker 2: I P. It's not a behavior thing you're not.
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  Speaker 3: Like basically modified means you're different.
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  Speaker 11: Basically, Basically, what she's saying like this, No, Basically, basically
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  Speaker 11: what you're saying is like, we know how kids have tests,
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  Speaker 11: So like the test would be like three hours. Right,
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  Speaker 11: she's saying, your test, you get like five hours to
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  Speaker 11: do it. You get the same tests more time.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. It's just no, it's not slow because
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking the test. No, it just means that you
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  Speaker 2: just need more time. Or like if the test is
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  Speaker 2: like thirty questions, we'll give you like twenty.
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  Speaker 6: It means one of these kids is doing his own thing.
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  Speaker 6: Remember that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't like them this inference. I don't
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  Speaker 3: like what you're trying to I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody else, nobody and that's the.
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  Speaker 3: Problem with everybody.
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  Speaker 2: That's the problem with black people. They just said, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna give you less you. You can't be both you
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  Speaker 2: that question and process the same. That's the whole point. No,
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  Speaker 2: yes you can. No, No, See, this is the thing.
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  Speaker 2: This is there's a bad stigma on I EPs and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 4: How.
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  Speaker 3: You literally just said it takes you longer to take
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  Speaker 3: than everybody else, and you're calling me slow.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't that's what it's calling you.
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  Speaker 3: If it takes you longer than everybody else to do
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  Speaker 3: the tests, that means you're slower than everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're just not need more. I just said you
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  Speaker 2: processed things differently, So how would you have the same
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  Speaker 2: amount of time as somebody that processes.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean slow.
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  Speaker 9: Nobody said nobody different. You said differently. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 9: I need more time than everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: So what does that mean to you? What do you
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  Speaker 2: mean if you process things like blurt a lot?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? What I need you to listen? Are you? Are
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: you locked in now?
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  Speaker 3: You talk to me like I see what you're trying
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  Speaker 3: to do.
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  Speaker 2: Jimmy had five apples. That's crazy because had five apples planted,
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  Speaker 2: but he cain't on defensive and not want me to.
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  Speaker 6: In the context I heard I e p us. I
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  Speaker 6: was in the academic sense. It was after school, but
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  Speaker 6: it was more like the kids that can't necessarily sit still,
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  Speaker 6: or they need to go take a break.
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  Speaker 2: Or you could be dyslexic. Yeah, a little bit. But
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  Speaker 2: behavior a BP is behavior trans a behavior plan for
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  Speaker 2: people that have behaviors. So I'm not saying this is
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  Speaker 2: not like you're the bad kid in class. It's not
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  Speaker 2: that if you are well, then you probably needed a
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  Speaker 2: bit too. But what I'm saying is you said, you
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  Speaker 2: said these words that I process things differently. That's what
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  Speaker 2: you said, So why would I give you the same
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  Speaker 2: amount of time to do something for somebody that processes
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  Speaker 2: things differently. Just because you have more time does not
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  Speaker 2: mean that you have to use all five hours. You
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: just have extra time if you need extra time based
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: on how you process things.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Because in my mind, and you're a teacher, both of
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: y'all work in the education system. All three of y'all
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: work in education system. Y'all understand what y'all talking about.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: But with the way y'all using it in the context
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: is giving that I am not able to just because
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I process differently, does it necessarily mean I need more time?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: In my mind, when you're saying it, it sounds as
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: if you're saying, I am not moving at the same
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: pace as everybody else. And that doesn't mean because I
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: say I'm processing differently, doesn't mean I don't mean move
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: at the same pace as everybody else.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: But you're you're the only one that's equating this to speed.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I am, but it's not about speed, and that's why
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you're processing.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: It different when you when you say, yo, I'm giving
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: you less questions and I'm giving you more time, you're
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: talking about speed.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: No, you're giving grace. No, I'm giving you, I'm giving
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: you the ability. If all right, let me explain this
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: one more time. Let's say as a reader, it takes
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you longer to actually understand a question like somebody can
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: read a question, understand what it means right then and
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: there answer the question boom. If I gave you the
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: same amount of time as I gave that person, that
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: would be unfair to you, not to say that you
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: can't do it, but to say that if you need
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: to go back and reread, that's a few more times
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: to understand. I'm giving you the time to do it
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: so that you basically have the same level as the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: other person. It's about equity. It's not about equality. It
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with speed. Nobody said that you
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: were slow. We're just saying that some people that you
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: need different process in time. Cool, So you can have
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: as much process in time as you possibly need. But
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: nobody's saying that you have to sit in there for
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: five hours. No, why is that necessary? Or if I
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: give you thirty questions, thirty questions might overwhelm some people,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: especially if you process things different, like damn, this is
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a lot. You don't need thirty questions to be able
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to master what's going on. I could just give you
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the really, really really concrete twenty and now I can
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: know if you understand how to do something or not.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: You don't need the extra tens.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Explain this to kids.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Explain this to children. We don't talk to children about this.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: We talk to adults about this.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe their parents talk to like I'm asking, does a kid.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Would a kid be able to feel confident and not
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: feel like they're being put in a certain space when
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: y'all tell them they have an iap you want to
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: go okay.
• 20:11
  Speaker 11: So that's actually a good question because there are certain
• 20:16
  Speaker 11: situations where when a kid find out that he has
• 20:19
  Speaker 11: an IP or he has a power, there's there's the
• 20:22
  Speaker 11: push to what you're explaining right now about the time
• 20:25
  Speaker 11: and being slow, Like that's how kids feel when they
• 20:27
  Speaker 11: feel like, yo, this is being placed on me and
• 20:29
  Speaker 11: I feel like it's unfair.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry, that's the right word.
• 20:32
  Speaker 11: They feel stigmatized, right And even as Dodgers explaining it
• 20:36
  Speaker 11: to you, it's hard sometimes to explain to kids that
• 20:39
  Speaker 11: they need the extra time sometimes because they feel like, well, hey,
• 20:42
  Speaker 11: I'm next to these people. I'm with these people all
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: of the time in class and lunch. Why do I
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: have to like go over here to do my work?
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: And they can you know what I'm saying. So sometimes
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: it's more about the socioot the socialization of it as
• 20:54
  Speaker 11: opposed to the academics, right, because when you're talking about
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: the work, like Dodd said, some kids process things differently,
• 21:00
  Speaker 11: and not just processing things, but some kids, for example,
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: can't sit still. So it's not that I can't do
• 21:06
  Speaker 11: the thirty questions, but I might have to take a
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: ten to fifteen minute break every five questions. Yeah, you
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: get what I'm saying.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: You can't do that in a room with everybody that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: could lock in for thirty questions. You disrupting the whole
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: fucking environment. You got to go take that shit somewhere else.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you and you need more time.
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: So, like I said, you you might know all of
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: the questions, but just because of how you process things
• 21:24
  Speaker 11: in the time that it takes, you're not going to
• 21:26
  Speaker 11: be able to do that same test in the same
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: amount of time. You get what I'm saying, as opposed
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: to them putting you with the same kids and you
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: failing because you just took three or four breaks and
• 21:34
  Speaker 11: you didn't finish your tests.
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: That's why they should put my shair in the hallway
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: to take the test.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You lion, I'm serious. Oh yeah, yeah, most likely probably
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: most likely. Yeah. But then also I think that people
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: like people. I think people get what you habby was
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: being bad impulsive. Yeah, I mean because you had jokes.
• 21:55
  Speaker 11: Maybe maybe they wanted you to finish your test and
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: kicking the other kids to finish their test.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: So that and.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I just want people not to think like when it
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: comes to like IEPs. This is This is a conversation
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I just had with a group of friends recently, like
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: maybe like two days ago, where I said that the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: kids that were in the lead classes, like the smart
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: classes or the top classes, that is just a different
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: version of an IEP. And me and my friends we
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: consistently talk about like how our parents they need to
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: see somebod like they need to atone for the fact
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: that they allowed us to raw dog neurodivergence just because
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: we had good grades and we had good behavior. Like
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: we were fucked up, like we were like anxious, we
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: were like we had adhd out the ass. We were
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: not able to sit still, we were not able to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: do a lot of things that other kids with IEP's had,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: But because we had a's, they're like, oh, instead of
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: putting them in like the resource class, they put us
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: in a high performing class and just pumped out mad
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: work at a high haste. But it's the same difference,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Like we all needed fucking IEPs. They just said, oh,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: y'all got a So y'all don't get IEPs. It's the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: ones that have that's feeling. We're gonna give them ips. No,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know what gend is. I was never in
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a gen AD class until I started seeing a Gen
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: AD class and I said, oh, this is different, Like
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that Gen ED was like this.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Y'all not gonna y'all. Y'all, y'all want some bullshit, y'all
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: loan some bullshit. I'm just letting y'all know because y'all
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: trying to make it seem like, no, everything's okay. Just
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: because you needed it doesn't mean y'all used it as
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: a slur.
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: How do we use it as a Oh we could
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: tell you needed that. I EP, we could tell yeah yesterday.
• 23:41
  Speaker 12: Yeah he's para. Yeah, you're using it as a slur. No,
• 23:45
  Speaker 12: I'm using it, and.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: It's irresponsible being at y'all all work in schools around
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: kids that have them, and y'all trying to make it
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: seem as.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, it's fine. It's just you know, we no
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: stop using it as a slur. If you're not, if
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: you don't think it's something, you're the oldest person in
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the room. So why are we talking about kids right now?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: We were talking to you.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Now I'm saying we're talking in relation to kids. So
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: if this was if there's a parent listening that has
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: a kid on the I P. They might be offended too, exactly.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: But I don't think you know, I can speak for myself.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to talk in the context of speaking
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: down like the I E. P students I had are
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: all probably one of the more intelligent kids in Actually.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I said that you are the only.
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: One that are using However was the context in which
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: you used it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: However, the reason why what I said.
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: Was that I would go to like the administrator or
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: the principal, whoever's in charge of the school program and
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: ask about the kid, and they'd be like, oh, it's
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: I a P kid, And I'm like, okay. So because
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: I now I understand to Yesterday's point, Like, Yo, this
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: kid can't DJ for an hour straight. I got to
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: give him fifteen minute projects. He has to stand up,
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: You got to move around a little bit. I have
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: to call him to the board and write some stuff.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: I got to keep him busy because he may have
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: a short attention span. So it's not like this kid
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: is less intelligent. It's just that, Okay, you have to
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: understand that they're move in a little bit different and
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: once you're able to tap into that you could get
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: the best out of them.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: It's so crazy. He started this conversation about neuro divergence.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: He also started this whole conversation. And but when we
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: are when we are basically saying like, oh yeah, I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: see exactly what you're talking about. You did need an
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: IP and he is a power, that's what he is.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: So you got a power right here. I think that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that's amazing for you.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: You're trying to change it up, and I'm glad that
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: you recognize. I think it's amazing as you recognize the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: error of your wage. I don't have an error without
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: trying to apology. This is her way of saying, Okay,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I see what's going on here.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: That means I'm right, and that's all matters. Me and
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: my EP we locked and loaded.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: But I probably didn't need that. Taking tests and ship
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: like that, like they give you the standard test, that
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: don't mean you don't know the ship. This test system
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: don't work for me. I was mad good with the
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: answers in the class and ship you put the ship in.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: This looks like Chinese and I'm trying to stare at it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not good at add It's my focus so I'm
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: reading the ship and by the time I get to
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: the end of the first year, I got to go
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: try to read it again.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Get it. You should have never had the same amount
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: of questions as everybody else that I don't like that part.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: If you're going to give me the same question, give
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: me more time or whatever it may be, or question,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: real question, real question, I'm just fucking show. Is it
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the test the way that they test, or is it
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the time, because both so right when they say like, oh,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: this person doesn't do well with this way of testing,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: doesn't really accurately to pick what they know, ye what
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: they know or not is just this way of testing.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Giving them more time, it's like I'll fuck around and
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: go to sleep. I'll fuck around and just sit there
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: and stare until it's over.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of actual educational studies right now that
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: are saying that giving scholars with neurodivergence or scholars that
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: do have IEPs giving them more time is actually more
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: detrimental to them than giving them the allotted amount of time,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: because something about that time gives them that pressure or
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: to stop them from procrastinating it actually being able to
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: get the thing done. But I think that what we
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: have to understand and grapple with is like not everybody
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: sees time as pressure. Some people might see it as
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: like quicksand so they might need more. So it's just
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: about it's just giving you access to all of the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: things that you possibly could need and use to your
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: discretion if that's what you need. That's why I'm a
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: more of an advocate of giving less questions with the
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: same amount of time than I am personally for giving
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: more time, because I am a procrastinating myself. You give
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: me more time, I'm gonna take take I'm gonna sit
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: there for two hours, drawing, doodling, and then I'm actually
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: gonna start the test when I could have just been
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: finished by now.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Had a whole saying this parent kid thing. I'm still
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: a kid, I still have a parent, I still have
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: a parent.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: That's where your mommy's staying, right.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: So me and her had a slight discourse this weekend
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: and I kept telling them, like, yo, you need therapy.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Does not like that me saying that, does not like
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: me saying that. And I'm explaining the reasons as to.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Why stigmatism what that mean Like black people when you
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: say certain things especially at a certain age. They really
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: think that you're saying something crazy about that, the same
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: thing as IEP, Like what you're calling me slow, No, nigga,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that you might need a little bit extra,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit less so that you can do what
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: you gotta do. Ma, you need to go to therapy.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: What you're trying to say, I'm crazy, No, nigga. I'm
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: trying to say that you have some things that you
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: have not processed and you haven't dealt with and it's
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: showing up in other ways, and maybe you should go
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: deal with that. It's not a bad thing. My mom
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: been in therapy for like fifteen years. It hasn't worked.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: It only works if you know, you've got to be honest.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So she literally lies to the therapist.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: So well, I have a clip just speaking about parents,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: and we're gonna get back to that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Amy. Let me see.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: So.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: Research shows that if a parent goes to counseling but
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: their child does not, the child will become more successful
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: when compared to the child that went to therapy but
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: their parents did not, because the parent creates the vacuum
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: in which the child lifts and the child can go
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: to therapy and this has.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Happened to me.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: It's just why I kind of got out.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Of children's therapy.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: You walk with the child, but then the child goes
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: back to the toxic environment where the parents are, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: every week you have to redo what you've done before
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: because they live in this vacuum with their parents and
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: it doesn't reinforce what you're trying to do in therapy.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: So parents should go.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Mmmm, that's a very good point.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: That's a very good point, right, big facts.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: It's crazy that we don't.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: We don't.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: We don't say that more often, but the parents will
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: walk on it. The parents the minute you introduce that,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: and the effect that they have on their children. Oh baby,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: now you're the enemy.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I'm always the enemy. I always tell people like, so,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: y'all want to go to like family counseling, y'all want
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: to handle this.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Tub?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: It's crickets. I get in trouble all the time. But
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I really care about children and I really care about
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: our people. And if I'm not going to say it,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: then nobody's going to say it. So you can curse
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: me out, or you could be against what I have
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: to say. That's perfectly fine, But I care about you
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: enough to bring it up like put in the atmosphere
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: and you could do what you want to do with it.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: As an adult, therapy changed me. I don't know what
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: kind of parent I would have been if I didn't
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: go to therapy before I had a child. But then
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I also went to therapy because the adults around me
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: they should have been in therapy and they never went.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: So somebody had to be the cycle breaker.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: I suggested to my parents that they do relationship therapy.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: My pops looked at me like I was calling the
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: cops on him with something like what's that for? And
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: he's he's from that generation and he's Jamaican, so I'm.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Like he's like, hell no.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: So I was like, all right, mom, you could do it,
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: you know, and just get it. At least y'all get
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: half of the information.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: What are they scared of?
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: What are they really scared of?
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: It's just stigma. Yeah, like crazy people. That's crazy people. Therapy.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Therapy is for crazy people.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: That's like, that's like the staple that we've grown up
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: in therapy is were crazy. But his father's super intelligent,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: has run businesses, community. It feels all types of shit.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: It's not intelligence.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: He's not able to look past the stigma. Yes, but
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: that's the exact thing. But that's part of the sigma.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: It's people feeling like, Yo, I do all of this stuff.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I've been able to carry all of these things. How
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: are you going to tell me that I need to
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: go talk to somebody I don't know about my life?
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying ego strangers.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically telling somebody like, yo, you don't have it,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you don't have it figured out. And they've been telling
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: themselves a whole life that they do. So that's a
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: hard you know, that's a hard matrix to break. Like
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: just in the moment like that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I told my dad I was going to therapy. That
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Nigga looked me in my face and was like, for
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: what you could talk to me? Said, nig I'm going
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to therapy, because that's the thing. If you would have went,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to go, Like y'all are all bad
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: shit crazy. But also why I realized that I don't
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: talk to most of the elders in my family because
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: once you go to therapy and they start peeling back
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the walls and you start seeing things, it's like, yo,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: y'all are some shit as family, Like y'all are horrible adults,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: and I actually don't want to be around y'all and
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I don't want y'all to be around my kid. Yeah,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: my mom is like, literally, I don't have kids and
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want them, and my mom is like a
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: major reason why I don't. That's real because I'm the
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I'm the oldest sibling and like I've been parentified, so
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: being yeah, yes, that's when. That's when a child is
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: put in a place of a parent and an adult
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: at an early age. So it doesn't give me the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: room to grow as a child and like experience the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: things in in my childhood because I had to step
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: into the role of the parent. Like my mom she
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: uh slipped and fell and got addicted to perks when
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I was nineteen damn. So while I was in college,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: my mom, I like literally at a pivotal moment in
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: my womanhood. My mom was like going through it. So
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: like graduating college and going into womanhood and your mom,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the only parent you have, is like slipping away. And
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: that's why I said the therapy didn't work because all
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: the time she'd been going to therapy, but she's been
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: lying to her therapists, and I know that because my
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: interactions with her let me know that therapy is not working.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And I've said to her, like I want, she won't
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: let me go with her because she know that I'll
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: expose this whole thing of her lying all of these years,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: because there's no way you could go to therapy for
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: like fifteen years and nothing has happened, like nothing has
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: gotten better in your life. I feel like a good
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: therapist can see through the lives though she switches them.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: She switched them over the years too. If somebody starts
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: to peel back certain layers, you're gonna like, you're gonna
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: be like, oh no, you're gonna find a reason why
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: they weren't a good fit.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Well, it's because so with respect to that part the
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: reason I say, I feel like a good therapist can
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: figure through the lives because what is not what you
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: tell them, it's the thought process. So they're gonna keep
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: asking these questions about what you're saying and why you
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: thought this, and that.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: You'll stop going and then yeah, and so you know
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: you're getting too much into the truth I need to,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: you know, and you go to somebody else and you
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: start the cycle over and you go to somebody else
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: and start it over, started over, so nobody. You're not
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: actually getting help like at all, You're just moving a
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: goal post.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Your mom.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Did she say there's one reason why I can't say
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: on the show.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: I think maybe it's because of the context and when
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: you bring it up, because when we're having this discourse,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: right at least this one, and it's like, Yo, you're
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: not good with expressing yourself when you're in a tizzy,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: you're emotionally like lashing out, and that's because you have
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: all of this backed up stuff going on that you need
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: to deal with, you know what I'm saying.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: So but I think that also there's an element of
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: fear too, because like, our parents are not dumb thinking
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: about going to therapy, Like and when I went, I
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: was twenty eight, twenty seven, so to have to grapple
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: with a decade of a lot of trauma and stuff
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: that I had to deal with, that was a lot.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I went for three years straight every Friday from seven
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: thirty to eight thirty for three whole years until my
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: therapist was like, all right, you have enough tools, I
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: can release you and you could come back when you
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: want to. Like I had to go every single week
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: for three years. It took me three years to undo
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: ten years of trauma. Can you imagine starting that as
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: sixty seventy, I got half a century or trauma. I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: got an unpack and relive and open up and old
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: wounds just to try to figure And I'm parents are older,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and they're like, yo, I'm on my way out this
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: whole anyway, Like what the fuck am I going back
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to for to deal with all of that? For now?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: It's scary at first, but you can almost look forward
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: But you're saying this as a person that has been
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: in it before, not as a person that has never
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: done it before. Like that sounds scary. You want me
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: to go to a stranger and start unpacking a half
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: a century of trauma? Why would I do that? I
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: could die tomorrow. Why do I want to bring up
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: this old kids?
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: For your relationship with your children, your grandchildren, for your
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: relationship with yourself, the demons that you've been carrying around
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: for mad long. No, like I said that to you,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, yo, you're doing a lot right, Like
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: you got a business, you're doing construction here, backyard, whatever,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: all of these different things that you're doing. I don't
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: give a fuck about none of that. I said, I
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: don't give a fuck about none of that shit you're doing.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: The one thing I want you to do is to
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: live in peace, to go to therapy and actually be
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: able to look at your and yourself in the mirror
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: without all of these inner demons that you're fighting for
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: all of this time. And that's all I want.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the inner demons give you, like give you peace,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: because that's what you're used to, like when you've dealt
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: with certain things for so long, Like that is your
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: place of comfort. Not to say that that's not a
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: toxic place, it's a comfortable place. That's something I also
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: learned in therapy. Like I'm used to being or was
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: very used to walking on eggshells or always waiting for
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the next for the shoe to fall, or for the
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: carpet to get pulled up from up under me. So
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I'm always like in preparation for the bad to happen
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: because I was used to that, and that gave me
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: a sense of comfort. It gave me a sense of understanding,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: like I don't I don't want good because I'm used
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: to bad because if you have too much good, the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: bad is gonna come eventually, so just bring it. I'm
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: ready for it. But that's not a good way to live.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: It took ten years, I mean three years, so I'm back.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: We got to listen to letter, Oh God, I love
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: nice from a parent that wants to talk about her child.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Are you ready? Yep?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: No, you said, y'all love those God said, she's scared.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: It's not that bad. It's actually not bad. It's actually
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: not Let me see where it is.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: What's hop y'all?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I'm right in.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Then, after listening to part one of the Dead Ass
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: episode with Julito, shout out to Julito, he met jay
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Z today.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yo, I'm so jealous.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: I was already planning to write, well you know if
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: you weren't. So this is where I bring in this
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: nigga over here, right, y'all saw me. I'm gonna read
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: the listener the second yesterday owes me a public apology.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Does he know? Did y'all see that I was in
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the Knicks parade? Right?
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, y'all see what I had to go through to
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: get into the Knicks parade.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I saw parts of it because the rest of it
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: was on your little subscription page.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: So yesterday came on this platform and told y'all that
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: I did not get him West and loom closer to say,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: y'all remember this, Oh we was already here, and you
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: remember this, Oh we was already there yesterday.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Hello. We called West and he confirmed what I said. Yeah,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: I remember that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: So are you going to stop lying or that? Are
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: you going to stop lying about this situation or that?
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Beaudn't mind?
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Damn well, we was nowhere near. We were wound up,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: and who got us there? Who got us there?
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: We were twenty feet in front of me.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: We were like you, how you muscled through the bit
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: of crowd that was there at Like, yeah you did.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: It's all right, it's fine because I spoke to Wes
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and he was like, nah, some we would have never
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: got there without you. And this is true. You Amy,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: you saw what I had to go through. You saw
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the planning.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: You didn't see the actual worming through, like literally like
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: conniving with chiefs and police, really going through mass ship.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. That movie I did,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: but am I an I'm no, please, don't don't do that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Didn't the animals come out of Jumiji.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It was hectic. That's what I'm saying. The environment was
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: really hectic. It was hectic.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: It would go through it was extremely it almost got
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: beat up, almost got beat up. These two dudes, like
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I tried to walk through, one of them muscled me.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I muscled nigga back, like, yo, what the fuck? When
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: him and his man turned around. Characters, you know, I'm
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: going through it, trying to get through these gates.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going through it. These niggas lying to y'all.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, he's not being honest about what we
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: went through to get close to that stage. I see
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: what you're doing. What's up, y'all? I'm writing in after
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: listening to the part one of Dead Ass episode with Julito,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I was already planning to write in, but at the
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: end of the episode definitely went the line with my situation.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: I'm a thirty five year old single mother with two teenagers.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: My oldest is seventeen and gradu waits next year. She
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: keeps saying she's moving to New York and has been
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: saying this for a while now. I usually follow up with, no,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: you're not. New York is expensive, we're from Saint Louis.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: My kids have been sheltered their whole life. My daughter
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: is not street smart at all, but it's getting closer
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: to that time. I don't want to discourage her from
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: her dreams. I had her at seventeen, and I want
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: her to do everything I wasn't able to do too
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: and more. My daughter is heavily into film and music,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: but she says she wants to do something in film.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I consider her to be a retro kid. She's into
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: anything vintage. She says she wished she was born in
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: the sixties. But I'm torn because I want her to
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: dream big and follow her dreams, but I don't want
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: her to end up in survival mode trying to follow them.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I found a film camp that she starts this summer,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: so that's to start. I'm planning to surprise her with
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: a trip to New York for graduation. Neither one of
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: us have been being that y'all are from there. Would
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: you let your kid move there? I have so many questions.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Not gonna make this long. She goes into how much
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: of a fan she is of Dodge and rooting for
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: the Knicks because of us five.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: But I think let her go I think absolutely, I'm
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: just based off of what she wants to do. If
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: this is a dream of hers, I think it's the
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: best time to be able to like move and move
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: and shake and like spread your wings. And the city
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: is not a bad place. I personally wouldn't raise children here,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: but adults are pretty fine. Like I think that the
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: underground scene, like the movie, the music, the arts, the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: all of those different things, the way that it the
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: hustle and bustle of like the williams Burgs and the
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Bushwicks and the Downtown's and the Lower east Side, like
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: those are all great experiences that she can have. And
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: even if if she makes it here amazing, If she
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't make it here, like she has amazing stories to tell,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: like it's not it won't be a negative experience. I
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: don't think for her to come and be in New
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: York as late teens, early twenties, I actually think she'll
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: fare really well.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Like trom you think a person from Saint Louis comes
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: here and is successful at eighteen nineteen years old.
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, the way that she described her daughter and what
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: she's into. Absolutely, And to do this point, like you
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: don't really need street sports at that point, like middle school,
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: high school, you kind of need street sports after that. Like, yeah,
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: ain't nobody fucking with you in New York, right, there's
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: a whole bunch of people moving around without street sports. Yeah,
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: just fine. They're doing okay, right, They're riding the train
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: late at night and all that. So the expensive part
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: she did mention that, which is true. I see lot,
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: like a lot of young kids, they don't really need comfort,
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Yeah, litter did like three
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: four roommates. That's what they do. Get a spot, a
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: lot of way. It don't got to be nothing luxurious,
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: and that a rough it. That's part of the experience.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: That's part of her growing up and scrapping together.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: What you think.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I totally agree because I left Philly at seventeen and
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: moved to Charlotte.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: When you leave and choices, what who the fuck goes
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: from Philly to Charlotte and you went from nowhere to nowhere? Like,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: what the fuck go somewhere? Why would you go there?
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: He's trying to trigger me, Charlottete Charlotte is no, it's not. No,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: it's not. But anyway, moving from Philly at seventeen, it
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: definitely played a major part. And just like you know,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: learning to be independent and coming into myself as a woman.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like when you leave high school and go
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: to college anyway, if your college is not your hometown,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: you're leaving your hometown. You're not with your parents, So
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: what would be the difference. And I feel like I
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: will resent my mom if she didn't let me go,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: like you're trying to like why would you try to
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: hold me? And you know, I have all this potential, like, yeah,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: let her go, and she if she coming she don't
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: like it or whatever, she could go do something else.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And if you don't like that, go do something else,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: like you can always start over.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I think New York is the perfect place for a
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: nineteen year old eighteen nineteen year old from Saint Louis
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: that's ambitious, that has dreams, that has this like sensation
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: to see the big city and live. Those are the
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: motherfuckers that come here and be successful.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: As weful. You got social media, you can make a
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: whole thing of it.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there will be an intern. They will work hard
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: for this shit. They're the last ones who come here
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: and fail and wind up on some bullshit. They the
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: ones that come here, turn the fuck up. They'd be
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: working for Weezy over at Damn Media and then have
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: another side gig on Broadway on Saturday, Friday and Saturday.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: They just be. They take advantage of everything the city
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: has to OFFO want. The city is amazing.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Transplants are better than the natives in that way.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Would you ever have some mighty moved to Philly?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Eighteen?
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Are you asking me? Yeah?
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Telling, what do you do in Philly? What is it
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? What do I do? What is
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: it a do in Philly? It's crazy, bro, I mean
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I tried different restaurants, like the festivals for restaurants, Philies.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: You know that you've been there. You know that.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I thought you all had cheese steaks. Maxes is fire.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: It's not. No, we don't go to I mean, nobody
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: goes to Maxes except out of town is Yeah, that's
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: that's become a out of towner thing, like we don't really.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Go to more y'all don't eat stakes.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: We do, but we don't. It's like Geno's, Pats, Maxes,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: like those are places that for you?
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I said, it's like forty second.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, forty second. So I mean, I would take Maxes
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: over Gino's and Pats, But I'm not going to Max's.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Like you could get a better cheese local or pizza
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: shop near your house, Like that's valid? Are you serious?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: The twenty four joint?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: The twenty four twenty four inch joint?
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Who?
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Why would you want? What are you doing it? What
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: are you doing?
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: Whoa?
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? Whoa?
• 48:06
  Speaker 11: Because why do you need a twenty Why do you
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: need twenty four?
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Why do you need twenty four inches of meat? Thinking
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: of me? Why? Why do you think? Why need twenty
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: four inches of meat packed under in any circumstance?
• 48:21
  Speaker 11: Why sand wouldn't No, it's not stop bros. Bro, don't
• 48:26
  Speaker 11: use your hands to measure I can.
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: Use any.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: D what he measurements whatsoever? He's Why are you gonna
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: be a twenty four inch cheese steak?
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Because I would share it with my girl, all right?
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Or might share with my kids with ship twelve with
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: your girl? It's crazy, Tom, I'm not all right? So
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: why not just you sell twenty four separate.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Cheese steaks instead of buying one?
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Long?
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Wait, do they sell twenty four inch t staks?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I never had one? Do they sell them. Yeah, man,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: is so why would they sell them?
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Y'all? For people? Am the one that why? Am I
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the one that's crazy if they tell them? Nobody? But
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: that's you right in a minute, this nigga walks.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: In twenty four No, I need twenty day.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: You said I need twenty four of them things. That's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: what you said. Oh we are hello?
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Is this real?
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: And you looking at me like I'm such too? I
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: did not say a word is this week? When I do,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: you'll be mad when I speak.
• 49:41
  Speaker 9: I don't know what you're allowing him to be this phobic?
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: A couple of days before?
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: What phobic is he right now? Oh? Homophobic? Phobic? He's
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: be a homophophobic? How's he being a homophobic if you're
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: not gay?
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: The idea that I can't say twenty four inches without
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: him thinking about penis and meaning not wanting fucking inches,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: like to share with my girl?
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: You want that's what you just said. You want to
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: say I can't. Oh you want to share interest with
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: your girl?
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: No?
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: I said, why do you need to measure that?
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: You said twenty four? Yeah? You boy was like this,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I thought about penis, No, twenty four inches of all
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that meat that's why do you need all that? Why
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: do you hear about why can't you get two separate
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: cheese steaks? You get? I hand you one and I
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: hang you you need one? Why do you need a long?
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: You want to sit side by side and like the.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Cats, you want the order you're going to suggest, you're
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: gonna go from one day even real ordering the six
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: inch is way more dicky than the twenty four.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: There's no how do you get it from twelve to six?
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: There's twelve and then there's twelve, Like, there's no, it's
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: not wild. Why it's not six inches?
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: They have a six, to have a twelve, they have
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: a twenty four.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't go anywhere that does that. You just
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: go in and you just go with her. Think you
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: don't saying can I get a you know?
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think of y'all are ridiculous.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Tell your daughter pull up.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: I think she's going to be a mate after the
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: conversation is crazy, right, we're talking about the young lady
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: whose ladies come that coming from st D to pull
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: up to go to enjoy herself. Oh my god, you
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: know what, Never mind, just change the topic.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: No, like it'll be a great experience for your child.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: You'll be fine, She'll be fine. It'll be fine.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think she I think I think
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: coming with her would definitely help dispel some of them anxiousness.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Is she feels you don't think.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: So, no, because if you when she comes with her,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: it's going to be very touristy, Like you're not going
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: to immerse her in the experience of what it's like
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: to live even as a transplant in New York. You're
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: probably gonna hit like all of the touristy places. It
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: might be more advantageous to actually try to find things
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: that are let her make that scenerary right, like that
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: she would actually be into to kind of like open
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: her up, especially if you're coming out in the summertime somemertime.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: New York City is a different type of vibe. It's
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: a different type of amazing and like there's so many
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: things that you can do and experience that is outside
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: of like tourist attractions of like the Broadway and the
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Times Square and the World Trade Center and stuff like that,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: like actually like research real shit, like go to the
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Mayor's page, go to like those New York Instagram pages
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: that tells you, like what's going on in the city,
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Like there's things in like Central Park. They're like movies
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: and free plays and concerts, like look for the fun stuff,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: not just like taking pictures of buildings and lights.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: I think A Dodge nailed it. Great advice, but yo,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: New York is mind blowing for people from out of town.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I've never seen. I've never been to sing Louis though,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: so I don't know what the fuck the city looks like.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: But even when I drive down god damn seven five
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: and going through Times Square, I'll be like, yeah, I
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: dropped the top. I was just looking around. Spider Man
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: and Batman was fighting.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: You should have jumped on your car.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Fucking nuts, bro.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: They had the iron thrown in the middle of for
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: no reason, just like we don't have like a Game
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: of Throne segment? Are we talking about House to Dragon
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: to day? Let me tell you anybody watched this.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: I haven't watched.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Come on, I fell off when I missed a few.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: I was meaning for nerds. We gotta call them it
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: only they don't want to understand us, because let me
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: tell you I was. I was. I was in that
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: house mouth a gape, like what the fuck that. I
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: just watched son. I was pissed. She was like, whoa,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: that's my sister, Like you got a wild fucking half
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: jaw slack jaw over bite, ass fucking dragon their sheep stealer,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: like you thought that obey, obey, you little bitch. She
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: was mad, funny, Oh my god, I was.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Just why did they Okay, we gotta do this. We're
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: gonna call them later. I'm sorry because I never I
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: don't understand any of this. What makes the dragons listening
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: to these niggas anyway?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: But that's because because I feel like it's like a
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: like a pet, almost like your pet, like once y'all
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: like bond or whatever. They have like a mutual respect
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: for you. But a wild dog not gonna listen to you.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: You like, hey, stop, obey, sick domesticated not but not
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: when you bond what your.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: See You're gonna let him do that before Pripary I said,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: but he's.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: It's not wrong with bonding with dragons. I want to
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: be addressed. I love dragons.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, but I want to die wolf too. Anyway,
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: speaking of the Pripary, justin New York to make it
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: illegal to refer to parents as mother and father keep
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: minus is Fox News.
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: Fox News.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Will make it illegal to call them mother and father.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Hey Foy has the details on this, Nate, Hey, Jackie,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 55:43
  Speaker 13: New York Democrats argue the words mother and father are
• 55:46
  Speaker 13: outdated and need to be replaced with more inclusive terms.
• 55:49
  Speaker 13: Under state law, all that's needed now is Governor Kathy
• 55:52
  Speaker 13: Hokele's signature. So if Hulkle approves, in New York's family
• 55:56
  Speaker 13: court and in domestic and education law, a mother would
• 55:59
  Speaker 13: be labeled as a just stating parent, a father as
• 56:02
  Speaker 13: a nonjest stating parent, and paternity proceedings to determine the
• 56:06
  Speaker 13: child's father would be called parentage proceedings. The bill passed
• 56:10
  Speaker 13: the state Senate this week and the State Assembly back
• 56:13
  Speaker 13: in March. Governor Hokell proudly calls herself New York's first
• 56:17
  Speaker 13: mom governor.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: It's unclear if she'll support this change, though.
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: I'm not familiar with what was going to do slate
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: last night, so I'll take a look at it if
• 56:26
  Speaker 8: I have until the end of the year to review
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: them and make a decision, so I won't be comedy.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I'm penning legislation.
• 56:31
  Speaker 13: New York would join other states like Massachusetts, California, Connecticut,
• 56:35
  Speaker 13: in Colorado to change the definition and wording of parents
• 56:39
  Speaker 13: in their state laws. Democrats argue the bill is necessary
• 56:42
  Speaker 13: to accommodate surrogacy cases and same sex couples. Governor Hokee's
• 56:47
  Speaker 13: up for re election this year. Her main challenger in
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: Republican Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman, tells Fox This Morning
• 56:53
  Speaker 13: as bill as a continuation of war declared on families
• 56:58
  Speaker 13: by Democrats, Jackie, I was waiting for that.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: I knew that was coming.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: It actually passed this good. You know what I thought
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: about when I heard it that I thought about your
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: cousin Nicole. I thought about like her story and like
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: the plight and the things that she went through to
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: try to get her child back, even though she did
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: not give birth to her child. Like, these things happen,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: and we can't just keep things so black and white.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Like you have grandparents that have custody over children, you
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: have like foster parents, you have older sisters, older brothers,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Like anybody can be a parent, per se, Like I
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: get it. I'm not against it. I don't I don't
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: have beef with that at all.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Trying why you feel.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: Like I'm okay with it too. I mean, like they
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: said when you started off, it's times have change, right,
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: Like oftentimes, if I'm at an event and I gotta
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: make an announcement, I can't say ladies and gentlemen anymore
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: because that's not that doesn't speak to the entire room.
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: Not everybody is included in it. So God, switch it up.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: Got to be like, hey, everybody shit like that, you know.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: All attendee's attentions.
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: So another thing like doing like I do a lot
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: of weddings and I'll send out like a little questionnaire
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: form and I can't assume that it's bride and groom,
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, I have to find out
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: first before. So I have two different questionnaires, the traditional
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: one body room and one where it's just like, all right, you.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Got all this shit going on here, two people get married.
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: So I mean, just times have changed, and you want
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: to include everybody? What's going on?
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: Amy what you think?
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings about it? There we go more
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: so Well, for one, I feel like it's so many
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: other things that are going on that like need to
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: be changed. They just jump the change to like ridiculous
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: stuff first, But I feel like the laws in the
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: verbiage and the laws can change to fit today, but
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you don't have to change the name of the like
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: mother and five. Like I just feel like, I mean
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: when she said it doesn't if you didn't like actually
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: birth the child. You know, things are different now, so
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: you have to include that. I feel like that can
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: be included in an umbrella under the laws and amending laws.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: But to just say, like, oh, we want to get
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: rid of mother and father, I'm more focused on, like,
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: what does it mean as is versus the labels on it.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I guess you could say, I mean, like, I agree
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: with changing it because, like I said, times are different
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: and you have to include everybody.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Why I think is this right? Why did it need
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: to change instead of just add.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It doesn't mean to change mother
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: and father. You could you have to be at it.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Why did that need to change? Because I feel like
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: the argument from straight people is they feel erasure happening.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: They feel straight culture is under attack, right, and so
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: now where somebody feels pride in the word mother or somebody,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: not many, y'all gonna do this, shut up, don't feel
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: pride in the word father.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: I already know where its Father's Day was this week
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: and y'all relax.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: They feel like why can't I Why do I have
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: to go as this gest stating? What is the gestating person?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Is a person that that that builds an egg, right,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: versus a person that doesn't build an egg or it
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't right. It's like, why couldn't they just add you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: know how they have it on like African American black
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: or black white Japanese Asia? Yeah, why couldn't they just
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: add other boxes instead of erasing the mother and father part?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: I think because it goes back to like umbrella terms, right,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Like the umbrella term is all encompassing of all of
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: those other things anyway. So it's easier to give you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: an umbrella term than it is to add sub parts
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: of terminology because then you'll have like a long ass
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: list like what if you don't consider yourself a mother?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Like then you get and then it gets like really
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: dicey about like what do you consider yourself? What are
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: your pronouns? What are not your pronouns that are like
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: nobody got time for all of that ship like heard them?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: They them z thereserves certain like come on, son, like Nigga,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: did you birth this baby? Did you not birth this baby?
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Which umbrella are you under? Cool? You either hear or
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: you hear, and then I could figure out everything else
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: from there. I just think that just makes more sense.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like people are so they personalize things that
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: are trivial.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I think that makes sense parent or.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Guardian this, and that.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: It's like who's gonna say that because it matters in
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: the in the court of law, like who actually gave
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Because when you have to say that conversation like how
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: we are nobody gestational? Like nobody's going to say that.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Nobody says when when you have an argument, if you're
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: the playti for the defense. These are just legal terms, it's.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: Not I feel like if you have if you have
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: the labelss parent or guardian, that includes.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody, not necessarily, because just because a parent or a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: guardian doesn't mean that you gave birth to the baby.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I could give birth to a baby and not be
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: the not want to be the mom exactly, and then
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: you're not the parent or the guardian. You're just the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: person that gave. You're the gestational best last site you
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: signed over guardianship the gestational parents signs over to a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: non gestational parent, and that's that actually is they're the guardian.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: I just feel like everybody should just be the guard
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: called a guardian, and if you're not, if you don't
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: have legal guardianship over the child, then you're not the guardian,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: like whether you had the baby or not, because then
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: that will cover if you if it was a surrogate
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: or if you gave your child away, you know, gave
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: your child up for adoption.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: So I meant like parent or guardian as one option,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: like not separating. I feel like everybody's gonna all under
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: either parent or guardians.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: I have an answer for that because where this applies
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: is state court filings, custody paperwork, child support orders, and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: legal documents. That's where this is specifically directed to. So
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: if you just put parent in parent, it doesn't you
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: need a separation.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Guardian needs to be the mother or the father. Ortation,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: what's the custodial what's the terms that we've been used,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: because then those are the terms that we want to guardian.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: People at a disadvantage when it comes time to try
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: to fight for custody of your child, I e. Thinking
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: about your cousin that's the perfect example you could just think.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 11: I think once you add stuff into society, like we say,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 11: like all the like the different ways that you can
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 11: be a parent or a guardian, I think as we update,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 11: as as we update with society, I think the laws
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 11: don't update this past. So I think it's that is
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 11: happening as well, Like the laws are trying to catch
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 11: up with the actual real life of society, what's going on.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: So I think that's the that's what we're saying.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: I'm really just I don't know, and I don't really
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: have a personal dog in the fight. I really don't
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: give a fuck with y'all.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not really think you.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of people are super like
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: oh those people and you know, gay and straight and all.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: I'm just me. I don't give what y'all call nothing.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Me personally, I really don't give a fuck. But if
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: I was to. When I'm having this conversation, I'm trying
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: to put myself in the straight offended world. I can
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: see them feeling like everything is kind of shifting towards
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: making sure everybody else is feels better.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Oh no, not a world where everybody feels included. White
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: people feel rights. God, that's the same thing. You can't
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: be a black person being opposed to them getting their
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: rights when they were literally we're still fighting for ours.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Like what it doesn't make any sense, Oh my gosh,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: not an umbrella term that takes away everybody, everybody. You
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: only have two people and now everybody's included home.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: What's what's wrong with you? Guys?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: This is crazy? Lock them up.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: I think that's what it is now that y'all saying that,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: I think that's really what it is. I don't think
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: that people feel Jay people or lgbt people really have
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: a right to exist. I think y'all should have a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: little place with everybody else. No, you can't be equal.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: People that think like that, they think like that about
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: a multitude of people. Like it's not just LGBTQ. It
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: goes into minorities, it goes into certain genders, it goes
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: into religion, it goes into everything, Like, y'all, how dare
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: people have the right to exist and be able to
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: fight for their children or fight or even have children? Like,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: how fucking dare you you?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 11: Or why should these people be treated as good as
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 11: I'm treated? They should be treated less.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Less than me. But you have to understand, as humans,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: there has always been like a cast system. There has
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: always been some type of mind, somebody there, somebody's there,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: like there has never been equality in the history of man.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: There's always somebody that's above somebody else for whatever reason,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: whether it be money, whether it be education, whether it
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: be race, whether it be gender. So this is just
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: more divisiveness as human beings.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna end part one here, next episode is
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: about to be a little you know how we get
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: go ahead, let it out, go ahead, let it out.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: I heard the inhale, let it out.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I just don't. I just I don't want to. I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: like peace, like out of your job and note, I
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: just like peace.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: Peace.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: What we see is that really what you see when
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: you like you step back, you think that you like peace.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: This is the most chaos point of my life. This place,
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• 1:07:04
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