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Zuccoli IGA owner Shelley Lay has welcomed the NT Government's new crime and safety measure but is keen to get more detail on what it means for businesses · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: We know that the Chief Minister has announced a raft
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  Speaker 1: of different measures earlier this morning. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: sort of taking a closer look at those measures now
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  Speaker 1: and whether they are going to have a positive impact
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  Speaker 1: or just what kind of impact they're going to have
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  Speaker 1: now joining me in the studio to talk about the situation. Well,
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  Speaker 1: really from an on the ground perspective, I think you'd
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  Speaker 1: have to say is Shelley Lay, who is the co
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  Speaker 1: owner of zicoli IgA, and they've also got celebrations there.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Shelley.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.
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  Speaker 2: Shelley.
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  Speaker 1: It has been a really tough week. There is no
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  Speaker 1: other way to put it. As somebody who works in
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  Speaker 1: a bottle shop, whose husband works in that bottle shop,
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  Speaker 1: who has staff that work in that bottle shop, how
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  Speaker 1: tough has this week been for you hearing of exactly
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  Speaker 1: what is unfolded with young Declan.
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  Speaker 3: It's safe to say that it's been devastating.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And like you said, I'm a bottle shop worker,
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  Speaker 4: my husband's a bottle shop worker, my staff are bottle
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  Speaker 4: shop workers.
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  Speaker 3: But mostly i'm a parent.
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  Speaker 4: Too, like we all are, a mother and what's happened
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  Speaker 4: to that young boy should never have happened.
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  Speaker 1: It should never have happened, and that's how we all like.
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  Speaker 1: That is exactly how we all feel. And it has
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  Speaker 1: been such a sad week, you know, speaking to his
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  Speaker 1: dad earlier in the week, the courage that that man
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  Speaker 1: showed to be able to speak so beautifully about his
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  Speaker 1: young fella is like, it was so admirable.
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  Speaker 2: And I think what it has done, it is.
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  Speaker 1: Just it has really touched the hearts of everybody in
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  Speaker 1: the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 4: I totally agree we all feel touched by this. I
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  Speaker 4: have people calling me at the IgA saying, Shelly, how
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  Speaker 4: can we help this family. We want to do a barbecue,
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  Speaker 4: we want a fundraise, they want to do something. I
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  Speaker 4: went and laid flowers myself at the BWS on Monday.
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  Speaker 4: I just couldn't sit there and do nothing. And we
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  Speaker 4: all felt like we wanted to show this family that
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  Speaker 4: we're standing tall with you or giving you love, even
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  Speaker 4: though we don't know you. You're a complete stranger to us,
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  Speaker 4: but we would just want to show you that we care.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you spot on everybody does. We all in the
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  Speaker 1: Northern Territory care, and we also we care about everybody
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  Speaker 1: that's working in bottle shops right now, but right across
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  Speaker 1: the Northern Territory and want to make sure that people
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  Speaker 1: are safe that something like this does not happen again.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as somebody who is dealing with difficult situations
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  Speaker 1: with asking people if they're on you know, like with
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  Speaker 1: asking them for their licenses, getting their license scan for
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  Speaker 1: the BDR and that kind of thing. Can you tell me, lo,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like it is a dangerous situation more
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  Speaker 1: like fairly often.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't really use to think that way, but yes,
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  Speaker 4: now I do. They can be confronting situations when you
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  Speaker 4: do ask somebody for their license or then have to
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  Speaker 4: refuse the service to that person. And people who are
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  Speaker 4: selling takeaway alcohol are in that situation, some stores more
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  Speaker 4: than others. So you imagine telling somebody who is already
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  Speaker 4: on the BDR. So that's the Band Drinkers Register. They
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  Speaker 4: are a person who is on that Band Drinkers Register
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  Speaker 4: for a reason. So that's because they're on the wrong
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  Speaker 4: side of the law. Generally they've had a violent background,
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  Speaker 4: domestic violence, drink driver, etc. I understand there's over three
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  Speaker 4: thousand people on that Band Drinkers Register. So when you
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  Speaker 4: have to tell that person that you cannot serve them alcohol.
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  Speaker 4: That is a confronting situation. And whether Declan was in
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  Speaker 4: that on Sunday night, we understand that he has refused
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  Speaker 4: somebody alcohol for some reason which has led to this event.
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  Speaker 3: We need to be.
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  Speaker 4: Safer in our job when we are required by law
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  Speaker 4: to action this now.
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  Speaker 1: The government this morning making a number of different announcements
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  Speaker 1: in this space, some of those in an effort to
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  Speaker 1: keep workers safer. What do you make of that announcement
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  Speaker 1: this morning.
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  Speaker 4: I certainly welcome anything that's going to work with us
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  Speaker 4: to make us safer.
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  Speaker 3: Katie.
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  Speaker 4: I understand that there are being some reviews to bail laws.
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  Speaker 4: I want these people off the streets now. I don't
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  Speaker 4: want people that have had a history of weapon violence
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  Speaker 4: or even any type of weapons.
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  Speaker 3: So there's talking.
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  Speaker 4: About sharp edged well, sharp weapon or edged weapons I
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  Speaker 4: think the word is but what about a bat? What
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  Speaker 4: about a stolen vehicle that is a bigger weapon than
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  Speaker 4: a knife? So I think we've really got to look
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  Speaker 4: at these people that are breaking the law and making
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  Speaker 4: sure that they're all being captured under this review, and
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  Speaker 4: it needs to happen now.
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  Speaker 3: They need to get off the streets today.
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  Speaker 1: Shelley They've also said that they're going to have improved
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  Speaker 1: support and safety training for retail workers, presumably that includes
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  Speaker 1: businesses like your own.
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  Speaker 2: Is that going to help?
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  Speaker 3: I hope. I hope it does.
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  Speaker 4: And look, I think want we definitely want to welcome
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  Speaker 4: anything that's going to educate us more in this space
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  Speaker 4: to be able to deal with problem people. I was
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  Speaker 4: on my neighborhood watch board meeting last night and they
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  Speaker 4: are even looking at they currently we currently offer self
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  Speaker 4: defense type classes for private citizens, but looking at expanding
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  Speaker 4: that into the business space as well. So I think
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  Speaker 4: anything that can help us be better prepared and armed
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  Speaker 4: ourselves around our personal safety and how to handle situations
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  Speaker 4: is definitely welcomes.
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  Speaker 1: Is not just insane though, that we're at that point,
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  Speaker 1: do you know, Like I do want to point out,
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  Speaker 1: like my children learn jiu jitsu. I do that so
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  Speaker 1: that they're not in a situation where they're gonna end
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  Speaker 1: up getting rolled. You know, Like, isn't that just an
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  Speaker 1: incredible situation for us to be it?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: And as a parent, and as many parents here and
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  Speaker 4: the people I talked to in our store, Oh, I
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  Speaker 4: can't let my kid ride his bike down to the
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  Speaker 4: local shops. They don't want to go to the major
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  Speaker 4: shops because there's drama there. Like we are all feeling
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  Speaker 4: like there is there are people within our community that
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  Speaker 4: are doing the wrong thing, and we want them off
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  Speaker 4: our streets.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we want them to be consequences when those actions
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  Speaker 1: are occurring as well. And I'm not sure if you
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  Speaker 1: saw the footage on nine newsta And last night of
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  Speaker 1: a corner store where there was knives pulled on one
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  Speaker 1: of the staff members. Now that's the corner store that
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  Speaker 1: I frequent and I know those young people that work there.
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  Speaker 1: They've got beautiful stuff in that corner store, as all
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  Speaker 1: of our corner stores and all of our our local
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  Speaker 1: establishments do.
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  Speaker 2: But I just, you know, you.
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  Speaker 1: Think to yourself, like that's vision from last Thursday is
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  Speaker 1: my understanding. And then we have the situation that had
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  Speaker 1: unfolded on Sunday night. We have got people getting around
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  Speaker 1: with knives with other types of weapons who are not
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  Speaker 1: scared of the consequence or not scared of how their
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  Speaker 1: actions are going to impact other people.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I agree, why are there people with knives on
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  Speaker 4: our streets? I can give you an instance where we
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  Speaker 4: had a lady who came into our store and she
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  Speaker 4: actually stole a Stanley knife and she went in to
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  Speaker 4: the bottle shop with that and she was that They
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  Speaker 4: managed to get her out, but she came back with
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  Speaker 4: a star picket. Now fortunately the police had been called
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  Speaker 4: and they were there as she was coming back, and
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  Speaker 4: as soon as she saw the police she dropped it.
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  Speaker 4: But an example of how having a presence of law
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  Speaker 4: enforcing people can change the behavior of people because they
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  Speaker 4: feel like there perhaps is a consequence there.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you I mean, do you think that
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  Speaker 1: with this announcement as well of the funding for the
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  Speaker 1: crowd controllers at those outlets, So basically government's going to
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  Speaker 1: assist with funding of security and crowd controllers at takeaway
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  Speaker 1: liquor outlets until the.
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  Speaker 2: End of June. Is that something that's going to help
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  Speaker 2: a business like yours.
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  Speaker 4: Well, we currently already have our security guard with our
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  Speaker 4: dog on and so I am wondering how the practical
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  Speaker 4: application of this is going to happen. And I don't
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  Speaker 4: know where I can find that information, but can I
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  Speaker 4: go and get a guard right now this morning? And
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  Speaker 4: the government is going to pay for that or are
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  Speaker 4: they going to assist in paying for that are they.
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  Speaker 3: Paying one hundred percent?
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  Speaker 4: And is it for the whole day that we're open,
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  Speaker 4: and is it for the night. I need to know
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  Speaker 4: further details, and I think industry do really need to
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  Speaker 4: know that we as supermarket bottle shops are not part
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  Speaker 4: of anti hospitality, so we are not kept as much
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  Speaker 4: in the loop. If they are aware of how to
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  Speaker 4: get that, I'm not sure at this stage, but we
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  Speaker 4: need to know. Kenny just went in to open the
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  Speaker 4: bottle shop, so as we speak, he's there.
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  Speaker 2: In the bottle shop.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so I want security, give us security. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, it does sound as though there's still plenty
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  Speaker 1: of detail that needs to be worked through. And I
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  Speaker 1: really hope that these changes have a positive impact because
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  Speaker 1: goodness knows the community needs it and deserves it.
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  Speaker 3: We sure do.
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  Speaker 4: And and the fact that a young Territorian's life has
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  Speaker 4: been lost, some change needs to happen.
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  Speaker 3: His death cannot be in vain.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Shelly Lay, it's always good to catch up with you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time this morning and
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  Speaker 1: coming into the studio.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, thank you