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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for Tuesday,
- 0:04May twenty sixth, twenty twenty six. As a reminder, RADII
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- 0:12or have other disabilities that make it difficult to read
- 0:14printed material. Your reader for to day is Cindy Fraser.
- 0:19To day's front page headlines from the Washington Post are
- 0:23peace plan is panned by go O P. Concessions to
- 0:27Iran a concern. Trump urges expansion of Abraham Accords. The
- 0:32next headline, Trump's health is drawing scrutiny. Presidents set to
- 0:37visit Walter read for a third time in thirteen months. Next,
- 0:43Popolio puts forth a defense of human dignity, calls for
- 0:47limitations to power of technology AI in his first encyclical. Next,
- 0:54in Venezuela, Trump's ally's role is pivotal and unofficial. Next,
- 1:00gerrymandering war transforms US politics. Both sides of aile dig
- 1:06in as redistricting fight rages with no end in sight.
- 1:11The final headline from today's front page Texas barbecue takes
- 1:15a hit as meat prices soar. Some of the state's
- 1:19oldest restaurants struggle to remain open. In addition, on today's
- 1:24front page, there is a photo titled A Day in
- 1:28Memoriam with a caption Vietnam veteran David Loch visits the
- 1:32Vietnam Veterans Memorial in DC on Monday. Flags line the
- 1:37wall form Memorial Day, the unofficial start of a summer
- 1:41in which the US will celebrate its two hundred and
- 1:44fiftieth anniversary. The photo shows an older man down on
- 1:48one knee in front of the Vietnam War Memorial Wall.
- 1:53He is reflected in the wall. Now, let's turned to
- 1:57today's first item, entitled plan is panned by GOP. Concessions
- 2:03to Iran a concern. Trump urges expansion of Abraham Accords
- 2:09by Sammy Westphal and John Hudson. In the latest twist
- 2:14to his bid to end the war against Iran, President
- 2:17Donald Trump on Monday urged several majority Muslim countries to
- 2:22join the Abraham Accords, a set of treaties aimed at
- 2:25normalizing relations with Israel as part of the settlement he
- 2:29is seeking to negotiate with Tehran. Trump, posting on truth
- 2:33Social said that Saudi Arabia and Qatar should sign first.
- 2:38He also called on Pakistan, Turkey Egypt and Jordan to join,
- 2:43even though Turkey has recognized Israel since nineteen forty nine
- 2:47and Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel, signed
- 2:52respectively in nineteen seventy nine and nineteen ninety four. Trump,
- 2:57after speaking Saturday with leaders of nations in Dad region,
- 3:01said he also envisioned Iran joining the Abraham Accords. I
- 3:06am mandatorily requesting that all countries immediately sign the Abraham Accords,
- 3:11and that if Iran signs its agreement with me as
- 3:14President of the United States of America, it would be
- 3:17an honor to have them also be part of this
- 3:20unparalleled world coalition. Trump posted Annalyusts, however, expressed doubt that
- 3:27the countries would agree to sign on, especially when tensions
- 3:30are running high amid ongoing conflicts in Iran, Lebanon, and Gaza.
- 3:36Official Iranian policy also calls for the eradication of Israel
- 3:41and its replacement by a Palestinian state. Bringing all of
- 3:45these nations into the Abraham Accords, which so far have
- 3:49been joined by Bahrain, Kazakhstan, Morocco, Sudan, and the United
- 3:54Arab Emirates, will bring true power, strength and peace to
- 3:58the Middle East for the first time in five thousand years,
- 4:01Trump posted. He added, it will be a document respected
- 4:06like no other that has ever been signed anywhere in
- 4:09the world. Trump made his pitch as some details of
- 4:13his latest effort to reach a deal to end the
- 4:15war in Iran and reopen the Strait of Hormuz came
- 4:18under withering criticism, including by Republicans in Congress. Senator Ted Cruz,
- 4:25Republican from Texas, posting Saturday on X said he was
- 4:30deeply concerned about what he was hearing about the Iran
- 4:34deal being pushed by some voices in the administration. Cruz
- 4:38praised Trump for the military strikes on Iran, but Cruse wrote,
- 4:43if the result of that means an Iranian regime now
- 4:47receiving billions of dollars, being able to enrich uranium and
- 4:51develop nuclear weapons, and having effective control over the Strait
- 4:55of Hormuz, then that outcome would be a disastrous mistake.
- 5:00Ay the early reports are wrong, Cruse boasted. Senator Roger Wicker,
- 5:05Republican from Mississippi, the chairman of the Armed Services Committee,
- 5:09also questioned the emerging accord the rumored sixty day cease
- 5:13fire with the belief that Iran will ever engage in
- 5:17good faith would be a disaster. Wicker posted on x
- 5:21everything accomplished by Operation Epic Fury would be for nought.
- 5:26Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican from South Carolina, wrote Saturday that
- 5:31if a deal is struck because it is believed that
- 5:34the Strait of Hormuz cannot be protected from Iranian terrorism
- 5:37and Iran still possesses the capability to destroy major Gulf
- 5:41oil infrastructure, then Iran will be perceived as being a
- 5:45dominant force requiring a diplomatic solution. It is important we
- 5:49get this right. On Monday, Graham called Trump's Abraham Accord's
- 5:54appeal simply brilliant. Trump tried to quell criticism of the
- 5:58deal on Sunday, writing on True Social that people know
- 6:03nothing about the potential deal I am making with Iran,
- 6:06things that haven't even been negotiated yet. He said the
- 6:10following day that negotiations were proceeding nicely. While giving a
- 6:14Memorial Day address at Arlington National Cemetery on Monday, Trump
- 6:19briefly addressed the war with Iran, acknowledging that thirteen wonderful
- 6:23souls had been killed, these incredible men and women gave
- 6:27their lives to ensure that the world's number one state
- 6:30sponsor of terror will never have a nuclear weapon, Trump said,
- 6:34And they won't. They will never have a nuclear weapon,
- 6:37he added. The audience seated in the cemetery's amphitheater cheered.
- 6:42Arriving back at the White House after the speech, the
- 6:45President did not respond to a shouted question from The
- 6:48Washington Post about the status of the deal with Iran.
- 6:52US and Iranian officials signaled progress over the week end
- 6:56on the development of a framework to extend to cease
- 6:58fire by sixty days while they negotiate a final accord. However,
- 7:03further details had not emerged yet on Monday, despite claims
- 7:07by some officials that they would be forthcoming. Secretary of
- 7:11State Marco Rubio on Monday pushed back on the suggestion
- 7:15that talks were hitting snags or that the emerging deal
- 7:18would set back US interests. On Sunday, Rubio had predicted
- 7:23there would be an imminent announcement on a deal to
- 7:26reopen the Strait of Hormus, but the fact that it
- 7:29didn't happen was something he wouldn't read too much into,
- 7:32he told reporters in New Delhi on Monday. Takes a
- 7:36little while to hear back, Rubio said, regarding the expected
- 7:39response from Iran. We have what I think is a
- 7:43pretty solid thing on the table in terms of their
- 7:45ability to open up the straits, get the straits open,
- 7:49enter into a very real, significant, time limited negotiation on
- 7:53the nuclear matter, and hopefully we can pull it off,
- 7:56Rubio said. At his weekly news conference on Monday, The
- 8:00spokesman for Iran's Foreign ministry, Asmail Bahraye, cited progress but
- 8:05denied an agreement was imminent. Iranian parliament speaker Mohammed Barghar
- 8:10Galabav and Foreign Minister Abasarakshi, two of the country's top negotiators,
- 8:16arrived to Delhart, Qatar, for talks on the deal, according
- 8:20to the Semi official Mayor News agency. Tromp meanwhile called
- 8:24on Saudi Arabia and Gatar to lead the way in
- 8:27the expansion of the Abraham Accords. It should start with
- 8:31the immediate signing by Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and everybody
- 8:35else should follow suit. Trump posted. If they don't, they
- 8:38should not be part of this deal in that it
- 8:41shows bad intention. While successive US administrations have sought Saudi
- 8:46Israeli normalization. Saudi Arabia has long maintained that it would
- 8:51not establish ties with Israel without the establishment of a
- 8:55Palestinian state. Trump, stressing the possibility of including Iran in
- 9:00the Abraham Accords, added, Wow, now that would be something special.
- 9:04This will be the most important deal that any of
- 9:07these great but always in conflict countries will ever sign.
- 9:12Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnahu, posting Saturday on X, said
- 9:17that he had spoken with Trump about the memorandum of
- 9:19understanding to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Net Nahou has
- 9:24not publicly commented on Trump's Abraham Accords appeal, but told
- 9:28CBS's Sixty Minutes earlier this month that he now sees
- 9:32the possibility of the expansion of those agreements. He said
- 9:36that possibility was the result of the change in the
- 9:40relative power of Israel. Dan Shapiro, a US ambassador to
- 9:45Israel in the Obama administration, wrote on X that while
- 9:49he is a proponent of eventually expanding the Abraham Accords,
- 9:53tying that expansion to a deal to end the war
- 9:56is needlessly complicated and unrealistic, especially in the current atmosphere
- 10:01of the unsettled wars in the Gaza Strip, Lebanon, and Iran.
- 10:06Pathways to greater regional integration will include economic opportunities, regional arrangements,
- 10:12and progress towards an Israeli Palestinian resolution. Shapiro wrote, Trump
- 10:17just publicly demanding these leaders fall into line as part
- 10:21of a deal to end the war with Iran is
- 10:23not going to work, Hudson reported from New Delhi. Natalie
- 10:27Allison contributed to this report. This item is accompanied by
- 10:32a photo captioned people gather at a Tehran mosque Sunday
- 10:36to commemorate those killed in Iran's war with United States
- 10:39and Israel. The photo shows a crowd, several of whom
- 10:43are holding Iranian flags in front of the crowd as
- 10:46a large poster showing Iranian leaders. The next item from
- 10:51today's front page is entitled Trump's health drawing scrutiny. Presidents
- 10:57set to visit Walter Reed for third time in thirteen
- 11:00months by Dan Diamond. President Donald Trump on Tuesday is
- 11:05expected to undergo his third scheduled medical checkup in thirteen months,
- 11:10as outside physicians say they have persistent questions about the
- 11:14nearly eighty year old president's health and fitness. Trump, the
- 11:18oldest president to ever be inaugurated, is scheduled to visit
- 11:22Walter Reed National Military Medical Center for a medical and
- 11:25dental visit, the White House said earlier this month. The
- 11:28President went to Walter Reed in April twenty twenty five
- 11:31for his annual physical exam, and returned in October for
- 11:35what officials characterized as a scheduled follow up, sparking weeks
- 11:40of inquiries about Trump's diagnosis and procedures that the White
- 11:43House repeatedly sidestepped. Nearly three months after the visit, Trump
- 11:48and the White House clarified that the president had received
- 11:51a CT scan. His doctor, Sean Barrabella, described the imaging
- 11:56as preventative to definitively rule out any cardiovascu issues. While
- 12:01the White House has around the clock medical team that
- 12:04can privately attend to the president if needed, Walter Reed
- 12:08has facilities for advanced imaging and other procedures. Trump also
- 12:13has made two visits to a Florida dentist since January,
- 12:16the White House had said, with official saying those were
- 12:19for routine cleaning and care. The White House has repeatedly
- 12:23said the president is in excellent health, including in response
- 12:27to questions this weekend, citing medical reports produced by White
- 12:31House physicians, including one from Barrabella in October that said
- 12:34Trump remains in exceptional health. Trump's health and fitness have
- 12:39been central to his political identity, in part because the
- 12:42President has continually invoked it, seeking to turn persistent doubts
- 12:47about his age into a point of strength. Trump campaigned
- 12:50in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four by touting
- 12:53his vigor, particularly compared with then President Joe Biden, regularly
- 12:58boasting of his results on COG exams while attacking his
- 13:01opponent as sleepy Joe. But as an aging president, he
- 13:06now receives some of the same questions at dog Biden,
- 13:09namely whether he is mentally and physically fit to perform
- 13:12the duties of commander in chief. Independent doctors asked why
- 13:17Trump's hands have been repeatedly bruised, why his legs are swollen,
- 13:21and whether his occasional sleepiness is a sign of a
- 13:24deeper issue, saying that they find White House explanations insufficient.
- 13:29This White House just doesn't seem to want to acknowledge
- 13:32any physical ailment. But older people develop medical issues, and
- 13:36the president is almost eighty years old, said Jonathan Rner,
- 13:41a long time cardiologist for former Vice President Dick Cheney.
- 13:44There just seems to be a lack of candor from
- 13:47the White House. A growing share of the public has
- 13:50doubts too. A Washington Post ABC News IPSOS poll conducted
- 13:55last month found that forty percent of Americans thought Trump
- 13:59had the mental sharpness to serve as president, down from
- 14:02forty seven percent last September. Forty four percent of Americans
- 14:06thought Trump had the physical health to do the job,
- 14:09down from fifty four percent last September. Next in this
- 14:13article is a bar graph entitled Doubts Grow on the
- 14:16President's Health. Percentage of respondents who said the statement applies
- 14:20to Trump he has a mental sharpness it takes to
- 14:24serve effectively as president. In September twenty twenty five, forty
- 14:28seven percent agreed with that statement, February twenty twenty six
- 14:32forty three percent, April twenty twenty six forty percent. He
- 14:37is in good enough physical health to serve effectively as president.
- 14:41In September twenty twenty five, fifty four percent agreed with
- 14:44that statement, February twenty six forty eight percent, and in
- 14:48April twenty six forty four percent source Washington News, ABC
- 14:53News IPSOS poll April twenty four through twenty eighth, twenty
- 14:57twenty six, among two thousand, five hundred sixty US adults,
- 15:00with an error margin of plus or minus two percentage points.
- 15:05Presidents are not required to disclose their health records, although
- 15:08annual trips to Walter Reed have become a modern tradition.
- 15:12Some lawmakers in both parties have called for more checks
- 15:16on chief executives, such as creating an independent commission that
- 15:20could assess a president's health. In addition to boasting of
- 15:23his physcal health, Trump has regularly touted his results on
- 15:27cognitive exams, insisting that the tests validate his fitness. He
- 15:32repeated claims about his cognitive scores as recently as a
- 15:35rally on Friday. He also has invoked past diagnoses from
- 15:40his physicians, including Representative Ronnie Jackson, Republican from Texas, who
- 15:45served as a White House physician in Trump's first term.
- 15:48Trump has said Jackson told him he was healthier than
- 15:51Trump's predecessors, Barack Obama and George W. Bush, both of
- 15:55whom were at least fifteen years younger than Trump when
- 15:58first worn into office. The two former presidents also had
- 16:01consistent exercise routines, a contrast with Trump, who essues exercise
- 16:06except for golf. I just care that he was my doctor,
- 16:09and he said on the healthiest human being he's ever Ronnie,
- 16:12Am I healthier than these guys? Back here, Trump said
- 16:15in February, standing in front of the US Naval Academy's
- 16:18football team. Yes, Sir Jackson replied, all right, See this
- 16:23is why I like him. Trump said. His aids trumpet
- 16:26his energy, including this weekend when they touted his commitment
- 16:30to working through Saturday. Next to this article is a
- 16:34screenshot of a post from X by Stephen Chung saying
- 16:39it's nine thirty pm on a Saturday night and President
- 16:42Trump is still in the Oval Office working hard for
- 16:45the American people. He's simply one of one. The previous
- 16:50post in this chain, also from Stephen Chung, said President
- 16:53Trump is working at eight pm. Can't stop, won't stop.
- 16:57Trump and some of his top deputies, such as his
- 17:00health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior and mem and Oz,
- 17:03have made a recurring joke of the scrutiny of the
- 17:05president's health. Doctor Oz looked at his medical records and
- 17:09said he's got the highest testosterone level that he's ever
- 17:12seen for an individual over seventy years old, Kennedy said
- 17:15on a podcast with former White House official Katie Miller
- 17:18this year. Officials later said he was repeating a private joke,
- 17:24in a sign of how seriously the White House has
- 17:26treated the issue. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt had personally handled
- 17:30questions about the President's health before she took maternity leave
- 17:34this month. Trump also has spoken directly to some reporters
- 17:37who pursued stories about his fitness. The White House has
- 17:41become increasingly aggressive when rumors have spread about Trump's health,
- 17:46which have sometimes corresponded with periods when the highly visible
- 17:49president abruptly lowered his public profile. In early April, hundreds
- 17:55of thousands of social media users amplified claims that Trump
- 17:59had been taken to Walter Read, drawing the ire of
- 18:02White House officials, who said that the President was instead
- 18:06sequestered to monitor search and rescue operations in Iran. The
- 18:10White House subsequently created a digital wall of shame that
- 18:13criticized social media influencers who had fueled claims about a
- 18:17hospital visit. The page also included reporters and news organizations
- 18:23that had merely noted facts about the situation, such as
- 18:26that Trump had yet to make a public appearance. The
- 18:30response was warranted because this was clearly an organized misinformation
- 18:34campaign peddled by left wing accounts, Levitt told The Washington
- 18:38Post in a statement last month. Spreading false and slanderous
- 18:42misinformation about the president is dangerous, and the White House
- 18:45will always hold people accountable for their egregious lies. Trump
- 18:49has been a victim of misinformation, said Kathleen Hall Jamison,
- 18:53director of the Edinburgh Public Policy Center at the University
- 18:56of Pennsylvania, who has studied how misinformation spread threads. The
- 19:01president has also contributed to it. She said, conspiracy theories
- 19:05can be accurate, Jamison said, alluding to how Trump's political
- 19:10career has been shaded by questions around his health, some
- 19:14of his own making, It's perfectly possible that unexplained absences
- 19:18are worthy of investigation. In interviews, several physicians who have
- 19:23treated presidents and other VIPs said they had come to
- 19:27distrust the White House's process for releasing information about Trump,
- 19:32with some invoking the doubts around Biden too. After a
- 19:36decade of delusion, deceit, denial or delay from the administrations
- 19:40and White House physicians regarding presidential evaluations. My expectation bar
- 19:45is pretty low, said Jeffrey Coleman, who served as a
- 19:48physician to former presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama.
- 19:54I hope they are at least transparent and truthful. In
- 19:57interviews with a Post, Coleman and other their physicians listed
- 20:01several questions there focused on as Trump heads to his
- 20:04latest Walter Read visit, mental fitness. Trump has touted his
- 20:09performance on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment, which is used to
- 20:13screen for dementia or cognitive decline. The president has said
- 20:17he was prompted to undergo the assessment during his first
- 20:20administration because of persistent questions about his mental health. I
- 20:26don't mind being called a brilliant, total tyrant dictator, but
- 20:29I don't want to be called dom he said at
- 20:31a rally on Friday. He added that all presidents and
- 20:35vice presidential candidates should be forced to take a cognitive
- 20:39test and a test on intelligence, claiming that he would
- 20:42outperform Obama and Biden. Democrats have repeatedly called for Trump
- 20:47to have an independent medical evaluation, citing his sometimes shocking statements,
- 20:52including his recent threat to end Iran's civilization. Some physicians
- 20:57say that given the president's age, more cognitive testing is
- 21:01warranted too. In addition to a cognitive screening test, he
- 21:05may need further screening of his cognitive executive function. As
- 21:09we know eighty year olds do have a decline in memory, reasoning,
- 21:13speed of processing, and spatial visualization, said Coleman, who detailed
- 21:17his experiences treating presidents in a book called Transforming Presidential
- 21:22health Care. Swollen Legs, Reiner said that he had concerns
- 21:28about the president's visibly swollen legs, which had become apparent
- 21:32last summer. The White House last July said that Trump
- 21:37had developed chronic venous insufficiency, a mild but chronic illness
- 21:41related to his age. A rare admission of a presidential
- 21:44health issue, Reiner noted that no mention of the condition
- 21:48was made in Trump's April twenty twenty five medical report.
- 21:52If the condition was present at the time, it raises
- 21:56questions of whether physicians missed or did not disclose the diagnose,
- 22:00as he said. Next in this article are two photos
- 22:03which are jointly captioned Swelling around Trump's ankles was visible
- 22:07last July when the President met in the Oval Office
- 22:10with the Prime Minister of Bahrain, Crown Prince Solomon Inhammad
- 22:14al Khalifa. From left, Kent Nishimura for The Washington Post,
- 22:19Alex Brandon ap The left photo shows the two men
- 22:23sitting in armchairs in front of the fireplace in the
- 22:26Oval Office. The right photo is a close up of
- 22:29President Trump's right foot and ankle, which shows the ankle
- 22:33bulging around the top of the shoe. Alternatively, if Trump
- 22:39develops swollen legs in the weeks after the April exam,
- 22:42that would indicate a condition called acute edema, and that
- 22:47usually warns an in depth evaluation to make sure that
- 22:50you don't have conditions like congestive heart failure. Reiner said
- 22:54the president's October medical report said nothing about the condition
- 22:59bruised hand. The White House has said that recurring bruises
- 23:03on Trump's hands are not a sign of a more
- 23:06serious medical condition, chalking it up to his daily use
- 23:09of aspirin and frequent hand shaking. Rhiner said he found
- 23:13those explanations not credible. If you're taking too much aspen,
- 23:18one would likely take less aspirin so that explanation doesn't
- 23:22make a lot of sense to me, Reiner said, We've
- 23:25seen a similar bruise from time to time on his
- 23:27left hand, and I doubt he's shaking hands with his
- 23:30left hand, he added. Next in this article is a
- 23:34photo captioned A bruise is visible on Trump's hand as
- 23:38the launch of his Board of Peace initiative in January
- 23:41at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Jonathan erst
- 23:45Reuter's The photo shows a close up of President Trump's
- 23:49left hand, a bruise is visible. Age related accommodations. Biden
- 23:54officials may changes to his routine as he approached his
- 23:57eightieth birthday, such as scheduling events for the middle of
- 24:00the day rather than in the evening, and using shorter
- 24:03stairs to access Air Force One. As this weekend, about
- 24:07whether the White House had made any adjustments given Trump's age,
- 24:11officials said that no accommodations had been necessary. Then Gupta,
- 24:16a pulmonologist and ms NOW medical analyst, said that both
- 24:19presidents had demonstrated markers of healthy aging, citing Biden's weekend
- 24:24biking trips, Trump's regular golf outings, and both men's travel schedules,
- 24:29but He said it was important to consider the scope
- 24:32of their jobs too. The more important question is not
- 24:36whether they are aging normally, but whether they retain the
- 24:39sustained executive functioning, cognitive stamina, and adaptive decision making required
- 24:45for the presidency, said Gupta, who had discussed joining the
- 24:48Biden administration in a senior health role. Those are different standards,
- 24:53and in my view, both men have shown enough public
- 24:56evidence of decline in those domains to raise legitimate concer
- 25:00concerns about fitness for office. Frequency of visits. Trump's second
- 25:05physical exam at Walter Read last year had little modern president,
- 25:10with presidents usually making just one annual trip unless they
- 25:13have an urgent condition. Nearly three months after the visit,
- 25:17and after initially telling reporters that he had undergone an
- 25:21MRI exam, Trump and the White House clarified that the
- 25:24President had received a CT scan as part of his assessment.
- 25:29Physicians have asked whether the White House is concealing other
- 25:32essential findings, such as whether Trump has privately visited the hospital.
- 25:37He has never made an undisclosed visit to Walter Reed,
- 25:40Levitt told the Post last month. In addition to the
- 25:44photos already mentioned, there was one more photo accompanying this item,
- 25:48which is captioned President Donald Trump arrives at Rockland Community
- 25:52College in Suffern, New York on Friday. Alex Brandon ap
- 25:56the photo show's President Trump slightly hunched over, stepping down
- 25:59from what appears to be the Marine one helicopter. Two
- 26:03marines are saluting in front of the President. The next
- 26:07item from today's front page is entitled Pope Leo puts
- 26:11forth defense of human dignity calls for limitations to power
- 26:15of technology AI in his first encyclical by Anthony Fiola,
- 26:20Michelle Burstein, Garrett de vinc and Stefano Pitrelli from Vatican City.
- 26:27In his first encyclical, Pope Leo the fourteenth put forth
- 26:30a defense of human dignity in the era of AI,
- 26:34delivering a far ranging treatise on the morality of technology
- 26:38that included a dramatic plea for guard rails to ensure
- 26:42that artificial intelligence eases rather than exacerbates inequality and poverty.
- 26:49Leo urged that AI be used to improve conditions for workers,
- 26:52and he called for limiting the power of technology companies
- 26:56over the vast computing resources that could reshape how human
- 26:59beings live as he addressed social ills related to technology.
- 27:04Leo also delivered an apology for the Holy See's complicity
- 27:08in the slave trade. Previous popes have apologized for the
- 27:12historical role of Christians in slavery, but Leo drew a
- 27:16connection to the papacy itself, writing of its quote past
- 27:20complicity and blindness in the face of the injustice of
- 27:24slavery end quote and asking for pardon. An encyclical is
- 27:30among the highest forms of papal documents, and Leo's first,
- 27:33His most important writing to date, positions AI as a
- 27:37catalyst of a new kind of industrial revolution, a cognitive
- 27:41one that has already begun to redefine how the world works, lives, plays, loves,
- 27:48and wages war. The document sets a clear tone for
- 27:52Leo's early papacy, elevating the ethics of AI to a
- 27:56religious imperative, the same way Pope Francis did with a
- 28:00against climate change a decade ago. In the cyclical called
- 28:05Magnifica Humanitas or Magnificent Humanity, the tech savvy, US born
- 28:10pontiff makes a resounding defense of pacifism. He also urges
- 28:16that humanity embrace its own limitations rather than pursue single
- 28:20mindedly to overcome them. Leo has emphasized AI since he
- 28:25became pope, and the new document also warns of the
- 28:28risks of control over humankind's digital space shifting to the
- 28:32for profit corporations of Silicon Valley and away from governments.
- 28:38As with every major technological shift, AI tends to amplify
- 28:42the power of those who already possess economic resources, expertise,
- 28:47and access to data. Leo rights in light of the
- 28:51common good and the universal destination of goods. This raises
- 28:55serious concerns, since small but highly influential groups can share
- 29:00ape information and consumption patterns, influenced democratic processes, and steer
- 29:05economic dynamics to their own advantage, undermining social justice and
- 29:10solidarity among peoples. Though released Monday, the encyclical was signed
- 29:15May fifteenth, a nod to a historic document penned by
- 29:19his papal namesake Leo the Thirteenth in eighteen ninety one.
- 29:24The dramatic unveiling of the new encyclical overshadowed the document
- 29:28itself in some ways. In an unprecedented move, Leo personally
- 29:33presided over its presentation and sat on a panel at
- 29:36the Vatican with not only leading theologians, but also Christopher
- 29:41Ola thirty three, the billionaire co founder of top ai
- 29:45company Anthropic. In formulating the document, Leo said he had
- 29:50listened to scientists, engineers, and political leaders, as well as
- 29:55parents and teachers concerned for the future of younger generation.
- 29:59He spoke worryingly of biased algorithms that can block access
- 30:03to health care and employment, and send an alarm over
- 30:06increasingly autonomous weapons systems practically beyond any human reach to
- 30:11govern them effectively. The decision to invite Olah fueled criticism
- 30:16out of the Encyclicals release that the Vatican was tactically
- 30:19lending its seal of approval to a tech juggernaut and
- 30:23dancing with the very digital devil that Magnificat Humanitas purports
- 30:27to warn the world against. Speaking While seated not far
- 30:31from the Pope, Olac conceded that tech giants operate on
- 30:35interests often at odds with the common good, and portrayed
- 30:38the Vatican's involvement as necessary. We need informed critics who
- 30:43will tell the labs when we are failing, he said.
- 30:46We need moral voices that the incentives cannot bend. Despite
- 30:51concerns of a Vatican whitewash. The encyclical fired a broadside
- 30:55at tech giants and their vast control over AI and
- 30:58how it's developed. Tech companies have pushed the White House
- 31:02to oppose regulation, but Leo, like his predecessor Francis, forcefully
- 31:07argues in favor of such guard rails. He then goes further,
- 31:11calling for a moral reassessment of powerful tech platforms and
- 31:15the concentration of computing resources in the hands of private
- 31:18corporations and billionaires. That dynamic, Leo said, risks the AI's
- 31:24benefits and harms being distributed unfairly, as well as massive
- 31:29environmental damage from the energy gobbling data centers. The document
- 31:33couples the computational mind of a pope who holds a
- 31:36mathematics degree from Villanova University with the values of his
- 31:40Augustinian roots. Leo proffers a cajoling, even quaint argument. In
- 31:46an age of technological disruptors and a pursuit of limitless
- 31:49wealth and power by nations and individuals, the NonStop race
- 31:54for more, better, and faster may undermine the fundamental messy
- 31:59beauty of being human. Leo frames a document as scripture
- 32:04come to life humanity. He writes, has a choice between
- 32:08two biblical stories, one the Tower of Babel, in which
- 32:12humans try to insure their dominance over everything and build
- 32:16to the sky, the other of the Israelites reconstruction of Jerusalem,
- 32:21which begins with fasting and prayer and emphasizes shared work
- 32:26and community. The primary choice is not between a yes
- 32:31or no to technology, but rather between constructing Babel or
- 32:35rebuilding Jerusalem, between a power that claims to dominate the
- 32:39heavens and a people who work together in the presence
- 32:43of God to rebuild the walls of fraternal coexistence. The
- 32:47pope writes the culmination of an unlikely tenured dialogue between
- 32:52Silicon Valley and the Holy See, with benefits and risks
- 32:56for both. The encyclical also courses with a message of
- 32:59peace and unity, the defining themes of Leo's papacy. Once again,
- 33:05he warns against unchecked political power and the rejection of
- 33:09multilateral institutions, while railing against false rationales and defenses of war,
- 33:15particularly at a time when Ai, he writes, is rendering
- 33:18war more impersonal. On the heels of President Donald Trump's
- 33:23high profile verbal attacks on Leo and the Pope's stoic
- 33:27but unbowed response. Some verses in the encyclicals chapter focusing
- 33:32on the nature of modern power easily could be interpreted
- 33:36as criticism of the White House. This is especially so
- 33:40when Leo expands on his recent assertions that God does
- 33:44not justify war. That phrasing could also be interpreted as
- 33:48criticism of the Israeli Defense Forces, the Ukrainian Armed Forces,
- 33:53and other militaries that have been using AI to target
- 33:56their enemies in bombing and assassination campaigns. Some experts caution
- 34:02against interpreting the Encyclical a document by the leader of
- 34:05the world's one point four billion Catholics that is intended
- 34:09to be read and reinterpreted for centuries as part of
- 34:12a feud between the American Pope and the American president.
- 34:17I think the danger for an American audience is funneling
- 34:20everything solely down to some kind of drama between Trump
- 34:23and Leo. Anna Rowlands, a British theologian who was among
- 34:27the Encyclical's presenters, said in an interview, Certainly there would
- 34:32be questions that can be asked for the US when
- 34:34you read that section on power, but there are questions
- 34:38for other global leaders as well, and also for the
- 34:41tech industry itself. The encyclical, a papal letter to the
- 34:46faithful and all people of quote goodwill, was portrayed by
- 34:49the Pope as a corollary to the eighteen ninety one
- 34:52encyclical issued by Leo the thirteenth called Rerum Novarum of
- 34:57New Things, which addressed questions of human and dignity during
- 35:01the great leaps of the Industrial Revolution and laid the
- 35:04groundwork for the modern Catholic Church's advocacy for the poor
- 35:08and for labor rights. The core spiritual challenge, now, Leo writes,
- 35:13is the dehumanization of human beings by flattening their differences,
- 35:18reducing them to data and performance, Turning them into means
- 35:22working endlessly to perfect them. Building for the common good
- 35:27means accepting the limits and weakness of humanity without considering
- 35:31them an error to be corrected, he writes. Charles Kemissy,
- 35:36a moral theologian at Catholic University and co author of
- 35:39a brief backing Anthropic, in a recent tug of war
- 35:42with the Pentagon over how the military can use this technology,
- 35:46said Leo was meeting a moment. It seems to me
- 35:50Leo has maybe even been elected as Pope in part
- 35:53to marshal the Catholic response that's going to be analogous
- 35:57to our response to the Industrial revolution, he said. So
- 36:01many people are searching around for a kind of ways
- 36:04to make sense of what's happening here, he continued, and
- 36:08religious institutions and traditions have some of that. Like at
- 36:11our fingertips to say, this isn't the first industrial technical
- 36:16revolution we've lived through. You know, here's how we responded
- 36:19with Catholic social teaching in the past. Inviting an Anthropic
- 36:24executive to participate in the document's presentation at the Vatican
- 36:28set its own signals. The company positions itself as more
- 36:32aware of the risks of AI technology than its competitors,
- 36:35and has invited religious leaders, including Catholics, to advise it
- 36:40on how to develop AI that acts ethically in a
- 36:43diverse range of situations. The text of the encyclical also
- 36:48suggests influence from Anthropic. In a section describing why AI
- 36:52technology is unpredictable, it notes that programmers don't directly code
- 36:57AI software, but instead create a scaffolding upon which AI grows.
- 37:03That's the same language Anthropic has used to describe as
- 37:06technology it makes me nervous. Paolo Carosa, a law professor
- 37:12at the Catholic University Notre Dame who works on ethical
- 37:15issues as chair of the Meta Overside Board, said, up
- 37:19a partnership that could whitewash an industry long resistant to oversight.
- 37:24I have no doubt the frontier AI companies would love
- 37:28to co opt religious communities to bring an ethical impromater
- 37:32to their work. The Reverend Andreat Chucci, Chancellor of the
- 37:36Pontifical Academy for Life in Rome, pushed back against the criticism.
- 37:42Those who create the technology also have to bear responsibility,
- 37:46Chiucci said, so we need to talk to them. Prominent
- 37:50tech leaders have ridiculed those who call for stricter regulation
- 37:53of AI or for a slow down in technological advancement
- 37:57as decelerationists or doomer The tech mogul Peter Teel, for instance,
- 38:03has said in the twenty first century, the Antichrist is
- 38:06a Luddite. Leo counters those voices directly, arguing that asking
- 38:11for caution in how AI has developed does not mean
- 38:14opposing progress in general. Human society must develop strong legal
- 38:20frameworks and oversight of AI before it is allowed to
- 38:23advance further. He says. He explores technologies tendency to create
- 38:28new addictions as platforms vie to capture users time and attention,
- 38:33and he delves into other ills, including human trafficking, offering
- 38:38a striking male culpa for the Holy sees historical role
- 38:41in slavery that some experts called more specific on the
- 38:45Vatican's institutional complicity than apologies by past popes. Already in
- 38:51the early modern period, the Apostolic See of Rome, responding
- 38:55to requests from sovereigns, intervened several times in order to
- 38:59regulate and legitimize forms of subjugation and in certain cases,
- 39:04the enslavement of quote infidels. Leo writes it was only
- 39:09in the nineteenth century that a formal, absolute and universal
- 39:13condemnation of slavery was clearly articulated, notably under Popolio the thirteenth.
- 39:19He calls us actions a wound in Christian memory, writing
- 39:23it is impossible not to feel deep sorrow when contemplating
- 39:27the immense suffering and humiliation endured by so many. Leo
- 39:32ads for this in the name of the Church, I
- 39:36sincerely ask for pardon. The words of a pope do
- 39:39not hold the same weight as they did in generations
- 39:42and centuries past, But the document comes as Leo, now
- 39:46a year into his papacy, is increasingly embraced globally as
- 39:50among the world's most influential defenders of human dignity and peace.
- 39:56His statue has soared amid Trump's recriminations, and as Leo
- 40:00has spoken out more forcefully about the rise of political
- 40:03tyranny and the hijacking of religion for political purposes, especially
- 40:08going to war. Some observers describe the encyclical as an
- 40:12intellectual flex that would further expand Leo's influence. This pope
- 40:18is recognized to be speaking inspired by the Gospel, not
- 40:22corrupted by economic interests or interests to confirm personal power,
- 40:26said the Reverend Rocco do Brosio, a political philosophy professor
- 40:30at the Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome. People are responding
- 40:35to that for a Catholic church diminished by its handling
- 40:39of clerical sexual abuse scandals, the AI issue has provided
- 40:42an opportunity to reassert moral authority. Leading tech companies, meanwhile,
- 40:48have been eager to win the church's seal of approval
- 40:51as the industry grapples with the public relations challenges of
- 40:54a technology that could automate and eliminate jobs, amplify misinformation,
- 41:00and create new cybersecurity risks. The Rome Call for AI Ethics,
- 41:06a document that counted the Vatican, Microsoft and IBM among
- 41:10its original signatories in twenty twenty, has emerged as a
- 41:13gold standard of best AI practices. Pope Francis, who was
- 41:17an early target of deep fakes through an infamous image
- 41:21of the Argentine and a Blenciaga puffer jacket, became the
- 41:24first Pope to address a group of seven form of
- 41:27world leaders, delivering a speech that delved into the cognitive
- 41:31industrial revolution set off by AI. Leo's Deep Dive Now, however,
- 41:37is seen as more expansive than Francis's ample writings on AI,
- 41:42elevating the issue in the same way that Francis's landmark
- 41:45encyclical Laudato c Praise B to U sought to reframe
- 41:50the fight against climate change as part of Catholic teaching.
- 41:54That twenty fifteen document by Francis also spoke of human limits.
- 41:59I think think Leo is saying the same thing Carroza said,
- 42:03but this time it's about our very selves. This article
- 42:07is accompanied by photos The verse is captioned Poplio the
- 42:11fourteenth of the presentation of Magnifica Humanitas, his first encyclical
- 42:16focused on the rise of artificial intelligence, at the Vatican
- 42:20on May twenty fifth, Jarinardi, Reuters. The photo shows Pope
- 42:26Leo sitting in the center of a large podium with
- 42:29three individuals on each side of him. The podium is
- 42:32facing a large auditorium. The cardinal to Poplio's right is
- 42:37standing and speaking. A large screen behind and above the
- 42:42podium shows the speaker. The next photo accompanying this item
- 42:47is captioned Poplio the fourteenth in Saint Peter's Basilica on Sunday,
- 42:51Matteo Manella, Reuters. The photo shows the Pope in red vestments.
- 42:56He is using incense. The next photo is captioned pages
- 43:01from the Anthropic website Patrick Sisson, AP. The photo shows
- 43:07layers of pages from Anthropic overlapping each other. The one
- 43:11that can be read says Anthropic is an AI safety
- 43:14and research company. We build reliable, interpretable and seerable AI systems.
- 43:20The next photo accompanying this item is captioned Italian front
- 43:24pages highlight President Donald Trump's criticism of the Pope, with
- 43:28words including outrage and shock attack in April Domenico Stenellis ap.
- 43:35The photo shows four front pages from four different Italian papers.
- 43:40The next photo is captioned Pope Leo the fourteenth in
- 43:43cyclical Magnifica Humanitas, focused on the rise of artificial intelligence.
- 43:49Alberto Pizzoli AFP Getty Images. The photo shows the document
- 43:54Magnifica Humanitas being held in someone's hands. X Photto is
- 44:01captioned the Pentagon on May nineteenth, Alex Brandon a P.
- 44:07The photo shows the exterior the Pentagon from a distance.
- 44:11The next photo is captioned Leo addresses a crowd at
- 44:14Saint Peter's Square on Sunday. Andrea Solaro a f P
- 44:18Getty Images. The photo shows the Pope in front of
- 44:22a microphone at an open window. Our next article is
- 44:28entitled in Venezuela, Trump Ally's role is Pivotal and Unofficial
- 44:34by Samantha Schmidt, Anthony Fiola, Karen de Young, and Samuel
- 44:38Oakford from Caracas, Venezuela. In the hours after US military
- 44:44forces spirited it away, Venezuelan President Yucolas Manduro on January third,
- 44:50Secretary of State Marc Rubio placed a call to Maduro's
- 44:53second in command, Vice President Delci Rodriguez. Two others were
- 44:58also on the line. One was her brother Jorge Rodriguez,
- 45:02the head of the Venezuelan legislature, according to four people
- 45:06familiar with the call. The other was Rubio's right hand
- 45:10man on Venezuela, Mauricio claver Caron, a Florida lawyer who
- 45:15briefly served as Special Envoy to Latin America early in
- 45:18President Donald Trump's second term. Claver Coron fifty one, has
- 45:23no official job in the U. S. Government, but as
- 45:27the administration was formulating plans last fall to send Maduro
- 45:31into exile or capture him, claver Coron was intimately involved,
- 45:35by his own account and those of others. Since Maduro's removal,
- 45:40claver Coron has taken on an even greater role as
- 45:43the unofficial U S Viceroy of Venezuela, helping to implement
- 45:48the administration's plan to work with Delsi Rodriguez and exploit
- 45:51the South American country's fast well wealth. Working directly with Rodriguez,
- 45:57now the Trump recognized interim President, her brother Jorge, and
- 46:01other officials in Caracas, claver Caron relays instructions on behalf
- 46:06of Washington. According to more than ten current and former
- 46:09US officials, people in contact with the Venezuelan government, and
- 46:13other knowledgeable observers who discussed his role, most spoke on
- 46:18the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomacy and the
- 46:21sometimes tense relationship between the two capitals. Claver Coron, usually
- 46:27operating by phone from his home and office in southern Florida,
- 46:30has been instrumental in picking winners and losers among inspiring
- 46:35investors as a country's long faltering oil industry is rejuvenated,
- 46:39said people familiar with his dealings. Most recently, he said,
- 46:44he vouched for Center View Partners, a New York based
- 46:47financial firm that was among the many vying to be
- 46:50hired by the Venezuelan government to help restructure its one
- 46:53hundred seventy billion dollar debt. His business partner, Jessica Bedoya,
- 46:58has traveled ultiple times this year to Caracas, each time
- 47:02meeting with Delci Rodriguez, Bedoya said in an interview. Claver Corone,
- 47:08in a lengthy interview with The Washington Post, described his
- 47:11role in Venezuela as a connector whose intimate knowledge of
- 47:15the players and policy in Washington and Caracas is needed
- 47:19and sought by both parties. Claver Caron compared his position
- 47:23to that of Jared Kushner, Trump's son in law and
- 47:26negotiator in the Middle East and beyond. But I always joke,
- 47:31he said, you know, people say, hey, are you the
- 47:34Jared of Latin American And I say, I'm like, no,
- 47:38Jared is the Mauricio of the Middle East. His lofty,
- 47:41if unofficial position and the close hauled the administration keeps
- 47:45on his Venezuela decision making have raised questions about oversight
- 47:50in the affairs of the resource rich nation that is
- 47:52emerging as a U S NEO colony. Under Rodriguez's interim presidency,
- 47:58the country has largely a revolutionary convulsions while a wild
- 48:02West marketplace swarms with US companies and investors. Critics say
- 48:08his unofficial position also highlights the lack of transparency within
- 48:12the Trump administration between the worlds of business and diplomacy.
- 48:17Although the long shuttered US embassy in Caracas has reopened,
- 48:21the Venezuela portfolio is handled almost exclusively by the White House,
- 48:26where Rubio does double duty as Trump's National Security advisor.
- 48:31Rather than the State Department. According to two US officials,
- 48:35For a guy who has no role in government, he
- 48:38plays an oversized role, said one former US official familiar
- 48:42with Clever Coron's work. In the interview, Clever Corone didn't
- 48:46dispute his influence, but said he is not making policy.
- 48:51I don't make decisions. He said. That's obviously for the
- 48:54President and the Secretary. I can just say, hey, listen,
- 48:58here's what I see, Here's who I know, Here's what
- 49:00I do. What do you want to do? Can it work?
- 49:04Can it not? Here's how you implement Trump's Latin American
- 49:08fixer Claver Coron has long been a controversial figure in
- 49:13Washington and Latin America. The Miami born son of Cuban
- 49:17expatriates who has a history of opposing left wing governments
- 49:20in Havana and Caracas, a background he shares with Rubio
- 49:24Claver Coron emerged as an architect of the maximum pressure
- 49:28campaign against the Maduro government during the first Trump administration,
- 49:32where he served as Director of Western Hemisphere Affairs on
- 49:35the White House National Security Council staff. The administration cracked
- 49:40down on Maduro with sanctions and recognized an opposition figure
- 49:44as Venezuela's legitimate president, claver Coroon hurled regular threats at
- 49:49Maduro and his allies, insisting that their days were numbered.
- 49:54When the US backed opposition plotted Maduro's ouster by trying
- 49:58to enlist the head of Venezuela Supreme Court Court, plot
- 50:01operatives gave claver Coron a code name Komeninos, or the
- 50:06Child Leader. The moniker reflected the view that he was
- 50:10enemy number one of the Maduro government. The plot collapsed,
- 50:16and the administration and claver Caron ran out of time
- 50:19to continue pushing for Maduro's removal. Over the next four years,
- 50:24the Biden administration unsuccessfully tried to negotiate with Muduro overholding
- 50:29free elections in Venezuela. Ahead of the November twenty twenty election,
- 50:34Trump had pushed Latin American governments to elect claver Caron
- 50:38as the first American president of the inter American Development Bank,
- 50:43but after two years, the bank's executive board unanimously voted
- 50:47to fire him. The vote reportedly followed an independent ethics
- 50:51investigation that found misconduct. Claver Caron declined to discuss his
- 50:56departure from the inter American Development Bank, except to say
- 50:59he did not violate any rules and was targeted inside
- 51:03the bank and smeared by the media. He said, he
- 51:06signed a non disclosure agreement with the bank. Back home
- 51:10in Florida, he co founded a private equity firm with Beatoya,
- 51:14who worked for him at both the NSC and the bank,
- 51:17and whom he describes as his life partner, called the
- 51:21Laura Fund. The firm aims to match US investors with
- 51:24worthy projects in Latin America, but Trump's re election in
- 51:28twenty twenty four soon brought him back into government. A
- 51:32month before Trump's second inauguration, the President elect named Claver
- 51:36Corone to become the State Department's Special Envoy to Latin America,
- 51:41a temporary one hundred thirty day appointment that did not
- 51:44require Senate confirmation. He spent much of his time working
- 51:48on Cuba and Venezuela, both of whose governments were on
- 51:51Trump and Rubio's priority list as the administration declared its
- 51:55intent to dominate the Western hemisphere. He also helped orchestra
- 52:00the deportation of more than two hundred thirty Venezuelan migrants
- 52:04to a mega prison in El Salvador. Near the end
- 52:07of his temporary term, In May last year, claver Coron
- 52:10resigned and resumed his work for the Laara Fund, which
- 52:14he said he had left in Medoya's hands during his
- 52:16temporary time in government. But in Midsummer, the White House
- 52:21came calling again, he said, this time because the President
- 52:25had made some decisions of things he wanted to do
- 52:27in Venezuela. Planning a Postmoduro Venezuela, claver Coron and Bodoya,
- 52:34whose earlier career focused on Western Hemisphere affairs at the
- 52:37CIA and State Department, were asked as private citizens to
- 52:41help quote find a solution to the Venezuela policy problem
- 52:45and present options for quote what a Postmoduro Venezuela could
- 52:49look like, Budoya said in an interview with The Post.
- 52:53We provided suggestions and advice for how to pursue a
- 52:56brand new bilateral relationship. Result was a three phase plan stability,
- 53:03economic recovery, and political transition for a future Venezuela without Moduro.
- 53:09In December, when Maduro declined a U S offer to
- 53:12help arrange a comfortable third country exile, the military mission
- 53:16to snatch and deposit him in a New York prison
- 53:18to face US charges of corruption and drug trafficking was
- 53:22put in motion. The administration's first order of Postmoduro business
- 53:27was stability. On the January third call with Delcie Rodriguez,
- 53:31the people familiar with it said, Rubio and Clever Coron
- 53:35laid out an offer to recognize her as interim president,
- 53:38with her brother staying on as president of the National Assembly,
- 53:42but they made it clear that Washington would be calling
- 53:45the shots. They told the siblings if they did not
- 53:48co operate with Trump's plans to quote run Venezuela as
- 53:52a president. Later put it in remarks to reporters there
- 53:56could be more US military attacks against the Venezuelan leadership,
- 54:00like the one that had removed Maduro just hours before.
- 54:04In a news conference after Maduro's capture, Trump cited Rubio's
- 54:08conversation with Rodriguez and said she was essentially willing to
- 54:12do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela great again.
- 54:16He said the United States had been prepared to stage
- 54:19a second and much larger attack if she hadn't agreed.
- 54:23Asked about his previously unreported participation in the call with Rodriguez,
- 54:28Claver Caron said, I'm not ready to tell that story
- 54:31yet and suggested posing the question to Rubio. Diplomatic disturbances.
- 54:37Claver Caron's extensive and unorthodox involvement in the relations between
- 54:42Washington and Caracas, along with his self described shar be
- 54:45elbows and impatient with bolsh, have frustrated some in the
- 54:50State Department and raised questions over potential conflicts of interest.
- 54:54Shortly after the Maduro raid, State Department employees focused on
- 54:58Latin America were to to stand down on Venezuelan policy.
- 55:03Only a small circle of people centered in the White House,
- 55:05where Rubio does double duty as Trump's National security advisor,
- 55:09are involved in Venezuela decision making. Two US officials sad
- 55:14Clever Caroon said he met with career diplomat Laura F.
- 55:17Dogu before she went to Venezuela in January to prepare
- 55:21to reopen the U. S Embassy, and he met with
- 55:24John M. Barrett before he arrived as Charges Affairs in April.
- 55:29His deep knowledge of Venezuela and high level administration contacts,
- 55:33he said, allows Rubio to attend to his wider responsibilities.
- 55:37DELSI has Marco's number, they can talk, she can text him,
- 55:41Clever Caroon said, But the Secretary of State has like
- 55:44a million issues. He's doing a lot of stuff. So
- 55:47at the end of the day when the Secretary is
- 55:49not there, she's like, oh my god, do you think
- 55:52that you know whatever? And I'm like, hey, listen, let
- 55:55me talk to them and I'll figure it out and
- 55:57they'll get back to you. That is very normal. That's
- 56:00called two track diplomacy, he said. The White House referred
- 56:04all questions about clever Coron's role, potential conflicts of interest,
- 56:08and Bedoya's flights to Caracas to the State Department. The
- 56:12State Department did not respond to specific questions or a
- 56:15request to interview a senior official. In an email statement,
- 56:19a State Department spokesperson said clever Coron is an expert
- 56:23with contacts throughout our region, and as a good US citizen,
- 56:27routinely consults and shares his perceptions with the US officials,
- 56:31but he does not currently have an official role in
- 56:34the Trump administration and is not acting on behalf of
- 56:37the United States government or issuing instructions to US or
- 56:41foreign officials. Any insinuation of that nature is abundantly false,
- 56:46the spokesperson said. Clever Coron also dismissed any suggestion of
- 56:51a conflict, saying neither he personally nor the Lara Fund
- 56:54have any Venezuelan investments. Venezuelan is not yet in the
- 56:58fund's risk profile, he said, adding I hope one day
- 57:02it will be. He noted the firm's first three deals
- 57:05in the works are in El Salvador, Mexico, and Potaguay.
- 57:09Badoya said that the fund, which in US Securities and
- 57:13Exchange Commission filings said it was seeking to raise at
- 57:16least one billion dollars, has not received any investment money,
- 57:20but has a number of projects in the planning stage.
- 57:23Both claver Coron and Badoya said they are not paid
- 57:26for their work for the government. Badoya declined to say
- 57:29who paid for her frequent travel to Venezuela. My role
- 57:33really has been to come in on strategic matters, to
- 57:36either reinforce a message from the White House or the
- 57:39State Department, or to facilitate the execution of certain activities
- 57:43that are a priority to Trump, she said. According to
- 57:46Venezuelan flight records reviewed by the Post, she was on
- 57:50the same chartered flight on February twelfth as two Center
- 57:53View executives Matthew Pegasi and Charles Albinet. The firm later
- 57:58finalized the contract of the Venice Way for what is
- 58:01believed to be one of the world's largest sovereign debt
- 58:04default cases. Clever Koron and Bodoya said she had only
- 58:07hitched a ride with Centerview on a trip that also
- 58:10coincided with the Calacas visit by US Energy Secretary Chris Wright.
- 58:14Badoya said she was on a separate mission to touch
- 58:17base with Delsi and juag Rodriguez in person. In a
- 58:21text message, Pagasse said, there is absolutely no role of
- 58:25Maurizio Klaver in our assignment. Due to the constraints of time,
- 58:31we will be unable to complete this item. This concludes
- 58:34the reading of the Washington Post for today, Tuesday, May
- 58:38twenty sixth, twenty twenty six. Your reader today has been
- 58:41Cindy Fraser. If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions
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