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The Bigger They Are: Toy Story 3, Toy Sentience, and the Word “The” · I Hate Talking

• 0:30
  I Hate Talking: Welcome to episode 116 of I Hate Talking.
• 0:33
  I Hate Talking: Hi everyone.
• 0:34
  I Hate Talking: So I suppose we will continue on Toy Story 3.
• 0:40
  I Hate Talking: Yay, so we watched it.
• 0:42
  I Hate Talking: All right, so word first, right?
• 0:44
  I Hate Talking: Word first.
• 0:45
  I Hate Talking: Perhaps we'll just skim the surface on this one and I'll just go by memory, or maybe we'll look up some of the stuff, but The word of the episode is the, the TH.
• 0:57
  I Hate Talking: That's correct, THE.
• 0:59
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 1:00
  I Hate Talking: So there's an interesting thing that can happen in the English language, and again this is all going off memory, so I'll have to either fact check myself or you are a listener can fact check me, but there are sometimes instances in English phraseology where the is not an article.
• 1:21
  I Hate Talking: OK, elaborate.
• 1:24
  I Hate Talking: So, typically the or the word a or an will refer to a noun within.
• 1:32
  I Hate Talking: A sentence.
• 1:34
  I Hate Talking: So, like the podcast is amazing.
• 1:37
  I Hate Talking: That refers to the podcast and amazing describes what it is.
• 1:44
  I Hate Talking: But there are other instances in the English language where there's typically more of a phrase, and an example that comes to mind is like, The bigger they are, the harder they will fall.
• 2:00
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 2:01
  I Hate Talking: So the does not refer to -- it's -- not an article, -- it's -- not referring to a noun.
• 2:07
  I Hate Talking: It's still an article.
• 2:10
  I Hate Talking: Well, now I'm pulling it back decades old English hair.
• 2:17
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 2:17
  I Hate Talking: The bigger they are, yep.
• 2:21
  I Hate Talking: The is the harder they will fall.
• 2:26
  I Hate Talking: I know, but that phrase, the bigger.
• 2:29
  I Hate Talking: The bigger, yep.
• 2:31
  I Hate Talking: The is the subject, I guess, right?
• 2:34
  I Hate Talking: No, it's the.
• 2:35
  I Hate Talking: The bigger they are.
• 2:38
  I Hate Talking: The bigger they, oh, I guess that, yeah, right, the bigger the, cause you don't say the bigger they are.
• 2:44
  I Hate Talking: The bigger they are.
• 2:46
  I Hate Talking: That's the subject, they, OK, which is a pronoun article, the Keep going.
• 2:54
  I Hate Talking: I'm lost.
• 2:56
  I Hate Talking: I don't want to lose other people, so keep going.
• 2:58
  I Hate Talking: So, it's actually a conditional statement.
• 3:05
  I Hate Talking: So it doesn't make it an article.
• 3:08
  I Hate Talking: It's not an article.
• 3:09
  I Hate Talking: If it's conditional, it's not an article.
• 3:12
  I Hate Talking: So perhaps, again, going off memory, the etymology is important here, is that in the Old English, maybe.
• 3:22
  I Hate Talking: Indo-European languages that there is a word called pa.
• 3:30
  I Hate Talking: Which is a comparative word.
• 3:34
  I Hate Talking: Sort of like a modern day if then or if when statement in English.
• 3:40
  I Hate Talking: So Basically, if you said that in literal.
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  I Hate Talking: Old English or whatever these.
• 3:49
  I Hate Talking: European roots are, it would be uh bigger they are.
• 3:54
  I Hate Talking: Uh, harder they fall.
• 3:57
  I Hate Talking: OK, where you are comparing or contrasting or in some way having a conditional sentence.
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  I Hate Talking: If they're bigger, then they fall.
• 4:09
  I Hate Talking: Yes, that's it if If they are bigger, Then they will fall harder if then, or if they are bigger, when they fall, they will fall harder, right, which makes sense, right?
• 4:23
  I Hate Talking: If you're bigger.
• 4:24
  I Hate Talking: So you jump in the water, the bigger you are, essentially, typically, the bigger splash you're gonna make, the harder the fall, the bigger the splash.
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  I Hate Talking: Will be right, even in that scenario, the does not refer to an article of the noun.
• 4:40
  I Hate Talking: The bigger The splash Yes, sir.
• 4:46
  I Hate Talking: OK.
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  I Hate Talking: So the reason that this came about as phraseology in English is because pa and the.
• 4:53
  I Hate Talking: Basically sound the same.
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  I Hate Talking: So they became used interchangeably and the one out.
• 5:01
  I Hate Talking: So basically, when you're having these comparative statements or some sort of if then or if when statement that the does not refer to a particular subject, but is actually comparing two different pieces of that particular phrase.
• 5:19
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I get, I mean, I buy that, and it even just makes sense as you're saying it out loud.
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  I Hate Talking: If you're bigger, then you fall.
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  I Hate Talking: Bigger.
• 5:30
  I Hate Talking: So just shortening it, the bigger the fall.
• 5:34
  I Hate Talking: I don't think, yeah, I mean, I buy that.
• 5:37
  I Hate Talking: I don't think there's anything um nefarious or argumentative about that, right?
• 5:43
  I Hate Talking: I don't think so.
• 5:45
  I Hate Talking: It's just an interesting historical.
• 5:48
  I Hate Talking: Use of the word the that is not actually the but is pa.
• 5:52
  I Hate Talking: Is there other times the word the is not an article?
• 5:56
  I Hate Talking: No, it's always these comparative statements if then, if when, where pa would be.
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  I Hate Talking: Interchangeably used, that is not an article.
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  I Hate Talking: So we just took paw and added the instead.
• 6:11
  I Hate Talking: Yes, they were used interchangeably and the stuck around and pa did not.
• 6:15
  I Hate Talking: Are there other times that paw?
• 6:18
  I Hate Talking: Has been used that you know of in our language.
• 6:22
  I Hate Talking: So I mean, that's uh an example phrase.
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  I Hate Talking: The bigger they are, the harder they will fall.
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  I Hate Talking: There's other, I'm sure, example sentences where they, if you are comparing a condition.
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  I Hate Talking: To a particular outcome that probably the is not an article, but it is actually this pa leftover.
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  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 6:45
  I Hate Talking: Interesting.
• 6:46
  I Hate Talking: Have now successfully taught 4 children how to read.
• 6:52
  I Hate Talking: So I won't say which one, but you have a 25% chance of guessing.
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  I Hate Talking: There was one kid.
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  I Hate Talking: Who could not read the word the Specific child who is intelligent like.
• 7:06
  I Hate Talking: Advance comparative to siblings, could not get the word the down, THE.
• 7:13
  I Hate Talking: I spent hours and trying to train him and he could read.
• 7:19
  I Hate Talking: Anytime he came to the word the, it was like a foreign language, and I don't know what that word did to his brain.
• 7:27
  I Hate Talking: I spoke to so many professionals like seasoned trainer, reading trainers.
• 7:33
  I Hate Talking: Even speech pathologist and OT, we spoke about why he cannot, his brain does not translate the word the PHE.
• 7:45
  I Hate Talking: And finally, one person gave me a suggestion just to write it in a bunch of other words, but write that one multiple times on a paper.
• 7:54
  I Hate Talking: Put it all around the house and then give him a Nerf gun.
• 7:59
  I Hate Talking: Cause that's his favorite thing to do at that time.
• 8:02
  I Hate Talking: And he had to shoot anytime he read the read the word the.
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  I Hate Talking: We just went around the house for several days.
• 8:11
  I Hate Talking: And read different words, and if it said the, he'd shoot at it with a Nerf gun.
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  I Hate Talking: That's the only way we could get in his brain, the word the.
• 8:22
  I Hate Talking: He could read and.
• 8:24
  I Hate Talking: And All these articles like that, or any other word, the word the, it literally was a foreign language.
• 8:32
  I Hate Talking: So, I had these flashbacks as you're talking about the word the, and how Difficult and a long process that was to train him to worry, and I still have no idea.
• 8:44
  I Hate Talking: Why he couldn't read it, but after that erf gone week.
• 8:49
  I Hate Talking: He finally knows the word that.
• 8:51
  I Hate Talking: There you go.
• 8:53
  I Hate Talking: So you didn't have trouble with articles of A or AN.
• 8:56
  I Hate Talking: Well, I will say in his justification, he'd always rate it as and.
• 9:01
  I Hate Talking: But he'd always read and A and D as and also.
• 9:07
  I Hate Talking: The two were the same to his brain, the.
• 9:09
  I Hate Talking: He would say, and for years.
• 9:13
  I Hate Talking: I guess, I don't know.
• 9:15
  I Hate Talking: I mean, in the English language, articles are sort of not really all that helpful.
• 9:19
  I Hate Talking: Like you could say cup is gray.
• 9:22
  I Hate Talking: And you'll get the same concept concept as the cup is great, but if you're reading the word, the sentence, the word the shows up.
• 9:32
  I Hate Talking: Mean proportionately.
• 9:34
  I Hate Talking: I don't even, I can't, when I say like 80, 90% of the time a sentence has the word done it, right?
• 9:41
  I Hate Talking: Or am I exaggerating?
• 9:43
  I Hate Talking: I don't know, we can maybe do some offline statistics, but that seems a bit high to me.
• 9:50
  I Hate Talking: I don't know the word the is in.
• 9:53
  I Hate Talking: A lot of American sentences.
• 9:56
  I Hate Talking: Probably and maybe that's why it's an issue is in a lot of Germanic languages, you don't necessarily have an indefinite article, you will have a definite article.
• 10:06
  I Hate Talking: So you'll have actually like a particular.
• 10:09
  I Hate Talking: Number associated with the subject, like 1, like there is 1 gray cup, and instead of the gray cup, it's There is one great cup There, but see, I think you're saying there and the.
• 10:26
  I Hate Talking: You're using them, OK, yes, so to rephrase that then it would be the gray cup in English versus one gray cup in Germanic languages.
• 10:36
  I Hate Talking: So, and Japanese probably has.
• 10:39
  I Hate Talking: Some things where it is either a specific number or indeterminate number, and those have different descriptions.
• 10:47
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I don't think they use the word necessarily the in, at least there are very limited Japanese learning.
• 10:54
  I Hate Talking: Oh, I've been reflecting on this with the comparative statements, and I think you could actually use the as a comparative if when statement regardless of a particular phrase.
• 11:06
  I Hate Talking: But if you're using it in a way that is a comparative statement or some sort of conditional statement, That it works all the time.
• 11:16
  I Hate Talking: So you could say, The more alive a toy is, the more likely they are to be part of Toy Story.
• 11:23
  I Hate Talking: So, the more alive they are, the more likely they are part of Toy Story.
• 11:29
  I Hate Talking: Right, that is not an article that refers to any particular subject.
• 11:33
  I Hate Talking: Continue on to disagree with you, some of them that are not alive, quote unquote.
• 11:39
  I Hate Talking: We're still alive in the story, right?
• 11:42
  I Hate Talking: Well, I think it goes to the fact that whatever the kid or kids imagine.
• 11:51
  I Hate Talking: And whatever particular scenarios they put these toys in is sort of the same level of liveliness as well as sort of cognition as it comes about in Toy Story 3.
• 12:04
  I Hate Talking: So for all our listeners, spoiler alerts ahead, Toy Story 3, if you haven't watched it by now, stop and watch it -- and then listen -- and then listen.
• 12:12
  I Hate Talking: You've had plenty of time.
• 12:14
  I Hate Talking: So.
• 12:15
  I Hate Talking: I watched the previews, or not necessarily previews, but like read this.
• 12:20
  I Hate Talking: Sort of synopsis of Toy Story 4, and I don't think I've ever watched it.
• 12:27
  I Hate Talking: OK, so, so no one gave me any Toy Story 4 spoilers.
• 12:31
  I Hate Talking: -- No -- spoilers.
• 12:32
  I Hate Talking: I fully agree.
• 12:34
  I Hate Talking: I do not know if I've watched 4.
• 12:36
  I Hate Talking: I know there's Forky, I know the character.
• 12:40
  I Hate Talking: Right, cause they were like part of a McDonald's Happy Meal or something at the time.
• 12:45
  I Hate Talking: I don't even know.
• 12:46
  I Hate Talking: I don't think I've watched 4 before.
• 12:49
  I Hate Talking: Our children never watched 3.
• 12:51
  I Hate Talking: Well, -- some -- of It's a, it's a sort of a dark movie.
• 12:57
  I Hate Talking: It was a pretty traumatic night when we watched it the other day, yeah.
• 13:01
  I Hate Talking: Hey, uh, Which I mean, Disney was in line with doing it that way because it was like, what, 10 years after the first one came out.
• 13:11
  I Hate Talking: So like the little kids that watched this would have been teenagers, essentially, so they were ready for the dark thematic elements of Toy Story 3.
• 13:20
  I Hate Talking: I had definitely watched 3, but it had been decades.
• 13:25
  I Hate Talking: Our kids all admitted that they had apparently not watched it.
• 13:30
  I Hate Talking: Had you watched it until this week?
• 13:32
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I had watched it before, but I think it was pre-kids.
• 13:34
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, we definitely didn't have kids.
• 13:36
  I Hate Talking: OK, so, so, and again, I don't think any of us have watched 4.
• 13:42
  I Hate Talking: It's -- quite -- possible.
• 13:44
  I Hate Talking: That's crazy.
• 13:44
  I Hate Talking: It just kind of missed us because, when it came out, we had kids, but they were really little.
• 13:50
  I Hate Talking: They were into cars.
• 13:52
  I Hate Talking: -- That was our -- life was.
• 13:54
  I Hate Talking: When did cars come out compared to Toy Story 4?
• 13:57
  I Hate Talking: Because yes, they were definitely more into cars.
• 14:02
  I Hate Talking: Cars 2, cars 3 m tall tales.
• 14:05
  I Hate Talking: All the things that go along with that.
• 14:08
  I Hate Talking: Lightning McQueen catchow.
• 14:10
  I Hate Talking: I think we've referred to Lightning McQueen many times on this podcast before.
• 14:14
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I, that will 100% be a.
• 14:17
  I Hate Talking: I feel like yours in my childhood memory of like raising kids was Lightning McQueen.
• 14:25
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, we would have been in that spot for us personally.
• 14:29
  I Hate Talking: That kind of didn't overlap.
• 14:32
  I Hate Talking: So cars one.
• 14:34
  I Hate Talking: Which, man, I still have that the memorized word for word.
• 14:38
  I Hate Talking: Was 06.
• 14:40
  I Hate Talking: Now, we did not have kids in 06.
• 14:42
  I Hate Talking: Cars 2 was 11, again, we didn't have kids in 11, but Cars three was in 2017.
• 14:50
  I Hate Talking: We saw Cars three in the theaters with two of our kids.
• 14:55
  I Hate Talking: But I remember our one kid speaking the entire time.
• 15:00
  I Hate Talking: Do you remember he'd be like, Lightning, I made her.
• 15:03
  I Hate Talking: Like he was, he was so happy, like as if they were talking to him and friends.
• 15:08
  I Hate Talking: It may have been their first movie ever too, right?
• 15:11
  I Hate Talking: So Curse 3, they saw in theaters.
• 15:15
  I Hate Talking: By then they were very invested.
• 15:17
  I Hate Talking: But neither of them were born in Cars one or two.
• 15:22
  I Hate Talking: I see.
• 15:23
  I Hate Talking: So we, so Cars 1 2006.
• 15:25
  I Hate Talking: When did Toy Story 4 come out?
• 15:28
  I Hate Talking: Toy Story, oh well, Toy Story 3, the one we just watched, came out in 20,010.
• 15:33
  I Hate Talking: And again, we didn't have any kids then, but we were married, which makes sense why we don't know it very well.
• 15:40
  I Hate Talking: I guess so.
• 15:41
  I Hate Talking: I wasn't even a nanny by then.
• 15:43
  I Hate Talking: That's why it's very vague.
• 15:44
  I Hate Talking: Now Toy Story 4.
• 15:47
  I Hate Talking: Came out in 19.
• 15:49
  I Hate Talking: So we did have 3 kids, but I don't think they were in the.
• 15:54
  I Hate Talking: Phase of Toy Story.
• 15:57
  I Hate Talking: They weren't into it, they were fully into cars.
• 16:01
  I Hate Talking: Everything we did.
• 16:02
  I Hate Talking: At that age was cars themed.
• 16:06
  I Hate Talking: So I think we just didn't watch it.
• 16:08
  I Hate Talking: I guess it just missed us somehow.
• 16:11
  I Hate Talking: Interesting because I am.
• 16:13
  I Hate Talking: Pretty certain that we haven't watched it, and I was shocked at how much our kids, and I think they were shocked too that they didn't know Toy Story 3.
• 16:23
  I Hate Talking: They knew 1 and 2, and 3 was pretty, like you said, uh, dark, yeah, dark, that's probably true, but that 2019 timeline would have lined up with when they were eating Happy Meals, so.
• 16:35
  I Hate Talking: That's why they would have known Forky, because I think Forky was like a -- Happy Meal -- toy.
• 16:41
  I Hate Talking: So even if we didn't watch it, they would have been old enough to order a Happy Meal.
• 16:45
  I Hate Talking: Or request one and we paid for it, yes.
• 16:49
  I Hate Talking: They did not order it.
• 16:52
  I Hate Talking: They did not go on their McDonald's app and put in Happy Meal with Forky the toy, so.
• 16:57
  I Hate Talking: The Toy Story 3 movie.
• 17:01
  I Hate Talking: Going back to the particular cognition or aliveness, as it were, of various toys seems to be based on how much cognition or aliveness the child ascribes to said toy during their particular playtime, because I'm specifically thinking of Big Baby, where big baby cannot talk, but does seem to have some basic level of cognition.
• 17:29
  I Hate Talking: And self-awareness, but that is because the child and probably all children alike treat big baby as a baby.
• 17:38
  I Hate Talking: So baby can only function as a baby.
• 17:42
  I Hate Talking: OK, -- so -- I never matured over.
• 17:45
  I Hate Talking: There's no maturation.
• 17:47
  I Hate Talking: It's just the fact that The child imagined.
• 17:53
  I Hate Talking: The baby only having the cognition and self-awareness of a baby.
• 17:58
  I Hate Talking: OK, so theoretically, you're arguing that this baby doll in the story.
• 18:04
  I Hate Talking: This one girl had big baby.
• 18:08
  I Hate Talking: Daisy, right?
• 18:09
  I Hate Talking: They treated it like a baby.
• 18:12
  I Hate Talking: So it never matured or never developed more cognition than that.
• 18:18
  I Hate Talking: If somebody also had that baby and in their imagination.
• 18:23
  I Hate Talking: It did mature, that baby doll would be more advanced.
• 18:29
  I Hate Talking: Possibly.
• 18:30
  I Hate Talking: The general internet fan theory is that like the toy has a net average of whatever the children imagine it to be.
• 18:40
  I Hate Talking: So, like, on average, all children that played with a big baby doll imagined it net average as a baby, OK.
• 18:51
  I Hate Talking: I mean, I guess you'd have to see like if there were.
• 18:55
  I Hate Talking: Different Actual individual toys.
• 18:59
  I Hate Talking: That were played with by different children that have different levels of self-awareness and cognition, right, -- a whole different level of seeing the -- same, and it goes back to the fact that it probably is sort of like this net average magic from a child's imagination because Toys within packaging have self-awareness and cognition when they have never been played with.
• 19:26
  I Hate Talking: Right?
• 19:26
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, so that would be the question, right?
• 19:28
  I Hate Talking: Cause the only examples we have, we're so into this, but the only examples we have in Toy Story.
• 19:34
  I Hate Talking: Of the same toy.
• 19:37
  I Hate Talking: is when it hasn't been played with, right?
• 19:40
  I Hate Talking: So when it has been played with, hasn't, so like Buzz and the unpackaged, yeah, Buzz was already at least cognitively able.
• 19:53
  I Hate Talking: To understand his surroundings when he is unboxed.
• 19:56
  I Hate Talking: What about, but he was not self-aware.
• 19:58
  I Hate Talking: So Barbies, right?
• 20:00
  I Hate Talking: I think this is the most I can relate to.
• 20:03
  I Hate Talking: And 2, there's a bunch of Barbies in that aisle.
• 20:07
  I Hate Talking: And in the nighttime they'd have like Barbie parties.
• 20:11
  I Hate Talking: And they were just like party people, they weren't like aware that they were dolls or whatnot.
• 20:18
  I Hate Talking: And then you go to 3 and there's Barbie and Ken, and they meet.
• 20:23
  I Hate Talking: And Ken's very advanced.
• 20:26
  I Hate Talking: And like befriends Barbie and they have this romance and yada yada, right?
• 20:33
  I Hate Talking: So how does that play into your theory?
• 20:35
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I think it still supports it because Ken and Barbie and all the different Barbies have the same general level of cognition.
• 20:45
  I Hate Talking: It's not like one, and they were also probably never actually played with for the toy store toy store Barbies, they're still for sale.
• 20:56
  I Hate Talking: Right, that's why they were just partying at night.
• 20:59
  I Hate Talking: Right, so, Big Baby and all big baby dolls.
• 21:03
  I Hate Talking: Assume the net average.
• 21:06
  I Hate Talking: Magic from the children that imagine them only as babies.
• 21:14
  I Hate Talking: And if there was maybe one child that imagined them as like a fully functioning cognitive child versus the 999 children that imagine them as a baby that They'll get like a tiny boost of cognition, but at the end of the day, net average, they are still a big baby.
• 21:35
  I Hate Talking: OK, yeah, I totally buy that.
• 21:38
  I Hate Talking: Is that cause the kids' cognition or is that just how they are created and developed?
• 21:43
  I Hate Talking: That's how the children are imagining them to behave.
• 21:46
  I Hate Talking: And this is the same thing that we talked about last time with bullseye that he cannot speak or have a because all the children on average imagine him only as a horse.
• 21:58
  I Hate Talking: Right, which is a different thing, a horse that a cowboy rides versus like.
• 22:03
  I Hate Talking: Dinosaur that attacks things.
• 22:07
  I Hate Talking: Right, and could be again on Net average, some.
• 22:13
  I Hate Talking: Form of cognition where they can speak and interact with other characters.
• 22:18
  I Hate Talking: Yes, hey, uh, same thing for the teddy bear.
• 22:21
  I Hate Talking: What's the teddy bear's name?
• 22:23
  I Hate Talking: Winslow, Oslo, no, no, something like that.
• 22:28
  I Hate Talking: It's a strange name, but it's Ends with an O.
• 22:34
  I Hate Talking: Lotso, lotso.
• 22:37
  I Hate Talking: See, it does end with an O.
• 22:38
  I Hate Talking: -- I was -- right.
• 22:39
  I Hate Talking: It starts, it's the technical term is lotso hugging, the bear -- smells -- like strawberries, so, so shortened for lotso.
• 22:48
  I Hate Talking: Right.
• 22:50
  I Hate Talking: So Lotso would have been, again, net average imagined as a particular character that has cognition, speech, ability to reason, things like that.
• 23:01
  I Hate Talking: And then at some point became self-aware because like we discussed last time, it still seems like self-awareness is not necessarily imbued by children's imagination, but more of their actual experience as a toy.
• 23:13
  I Hate Talking: Almost utilitarian.
• 23:15
  I Hate Talking: I suppose so.
• 23:17
  I Hate Talking: And then a tortilla can become a toy.
• 23:19
  I Hate Talking: So we learned that in Toy Story 3 as well.
• 23:21
  I Hate Talking: Oh yeah, I was like, what?
• 23:24
  I Hate Talking: You're right, -- because -- yeah, so where is.
• 23:27
  I Hate Talking: The central nervous system and cognition could be even say soul of a toy because it was not in the potato.
• 23:38
  I Hate Talking: This is so deep.
• 23:39
  I Hate Talking: Well, potatoes are a good example because Mr.
• 23:43
  I Hate Talking: and Mr.
• 23:43
  I Hate Talking: Mr.
• 23:44
  I Hate Talking: and Mrs.
• 23:44
  I Hate Talking: Potato Head.
• 23:45
  I Hate Talking: You can see, right, Mrs.
• 23:47
  I Hate Talking: Potato Head can cover her one eye and she can see where her other eye is located.
• 23:54
  I Hate Talking: OK, so we've at least established that the eyes do not contain the central nervousness.
• 24:02
  I Hate Talking: -- And -- somehow they're attached to that.
• 24:04
  I Hate Talking: It's not like she could take an eye and put it on Mr.
• 24:09
  I Hate Talking: Potato Head, it still belongs to her.
• 24:11
  I Hate Talking: Perhaps we have not actually seen that proven out so far in the Toy Story series.
• 24:17
  I Hate Talking: I've not seen a mixed potato person.
• 24:22
  I Hate Talking: A Mr.
• 24:23
  I Hate Talking: and Mrs.
• 24:24
  I Hate Talking: jumbled up.
• 24:26
  I Hate Talking: The jumbled up, that would be a very, -- which -- is 100% something that kids do, because if you have a whole bucket of characters and you maybe put a mustache.
• 24:36
  I Hate Talking: And then give it a bow and it's really funny.
• 24:39
  I Hate Talking: So this goes back to the question, where is the central nervousness of a potato head?
• 24:43
  I Hate Talking: Cause it's not in the potato.
• 24:45
  I Hate Talking: We learned that because they Take control of a tortilla.
• 24:49
  I Hate Talking: It's not the eye because that is like separate from the eyes, right.
• 24:54
  I Hate Talking: It's not like the ear, right, because from Toy Story one, Mr.
• 25:00
  I Hate Talking: Potato says like, hey, where's my ear?
• 25:02
  I Hate Talking: So he has a central nervousness aside from his ear.
• 25:05
  I Hate Talking: So what does Reddit say?
• 25:07
  I Hate Talking: I don't know.
• 25:08
  I Hate Talking: I have not asked Reddit, so it's not eyes, it's not ears, it's probably not the mustache.
• 25:12
  I Hate Talking: It's not the body.
• 25:14
  I Hate Talking: -- It's not the -- body, right?
• 25:15
  I Hate Talking: That's a tortilla thing, tortilla.
• 25:16
  I Hate Talking: Is it, it's not the hat because he can go on without the hat.
• 25:23
  I Hate Talking: So it would either be like the feet or the nose.
• 25:27
  I Hate Talking: So perhaps we'll have to do more research on this to see if Mr.
• 25:32
  I Hate Talking: and Mrs.
• 25:32
  I Hate Talking: Potato Head can function.
• 25:34
  I Hate Talking: As a cognitive living being in the Toy Story multiverse without any of those particular parts.
• 25:42
  I Hate Talking: Well.
• 25:43
  I Hate Talking: I like As a human, you know you can cut your feet off and you're still a human as long as you didn't lose like enough blood, right?
• 25:53
  I Hate Talking: What happens if you cut your nose and like that whole section of your head off?
• 26:00
  I Hate Talking: Well, didn't somebody do that?
• 26:02
  I Hate Talking: I don't know, an ear.
• 26:04
  I Hate Talking: -- Are you thinking -- that's Picasso did an ear.
• 26:07
  I Hate Talking: There's some guy that thought he was either like very beautiful or very ugly and cut off his nose.
• 26:12
  I Hate Talking: I'm saying, OK, cut off like the whole function because, OK, like.
• 26:18
  I Hate Talking: There's been times for me, I, has it ever happened to you where you laugh so hard?
• 26:24
  I Hate Talking: That like something comes up your nose, like you're drinking and then like.
• 26:28
  I Hate Talking: Right, it's connected.
• 26:30
  I Hate Talking: Your nose and your mouth are connected.
• 26:33
  I Hate Talking: I mean, I've vomited through my nose as a young child.
• 26:37
  I Hate Talking: No, I'm not never, -- but I have laughed through my -- nose.
• 26:44
  I Hate Talking: I've not laughed through my nose.
• 26:45
  I Hate Talking: I usually don't laugh at that very much, so you don't.
• 26:47
  I Hate Talking: That's probably why everyone, everyone listening knows, obviously I laugh blame.
• 26:52
  I Hate Talking: Well, I like, is it connected like your nose into, can you live if you cut out whatever like your nose, obviously I chop.
• 27:02
  I Hate Talking: My nose off, my nostrils.
• 27:05
  I Hate Talking: OK, I can breathe through my mouth.
• 27:06
  I Hate Talking: What about all those inclined stuff?
• 27:10
  I Hate Talking: Will that damage something?
• 27:12
  I Hate Talking: I don't know.
• 27:14
  I Hate Talking: I mean, I suppose that we could inquire of Sid and his different machinations with like the combinations of toys, because There was a Barbie doll that was fashioned with a fishing rod.
• 27:28
  I Hate Talking: And it seems like probably the rod, right, it seems like the legs retain some sort of their cognition from the Barbie doll, and a fishing rod would not be alive in any form of.
• 27:42
  I Hate Talking: -- So -- you're saying the legs, if you have legs, you're.
• 27:46
  I Hate Talking: A cognitive being.
• 27:48
  I Hate Talking: -- That's -- in the world of Toy Story.
• 27:52
  I Hate Talking: Maybe, I mean, Slinky refers to this, that his back end actually has its own sort of consciousness.
• 28:01
  I Hate Talking: OK, so you are.
• 28:04
  I Hate Talking: Pro, you have to have likes to have a.
• 28:08
  I Hate Talking: I'm not saying you have to have legs.
• 28:10
  I Hate Talking: I'm saying that the legs or like lower extremities of mobility is where a toy's central nervous system is.
• 28:22
  I Hate Talking: Toy, I like that you put a toy in there so you don't get in trouble cause you sound very ablest right now.
• 28:28
  I Hate Talking: I mean, we'll have to maybe rewatch Toy Story 123, and then 4 to see if there's any toys.
• 28:39
  I Hate Talking: That are cognitively able to process their surroundings.
• 28:43
  I Hate Talking: That don't have legs.
• 28:45
  I Hate Talking: Now there's the, uh, there's one Toy Story 2 is breaking the theory.
• 28:50
  I Hate Talking: It isn't like the strong man.
• 28:54
  I Hate Talking: Doesn't he have like no legs at all?
• 28:57
  I Hate Talking: Strong man.
• 28:59
  I Hate Talking: The guy who's like a suction cup to the.
• 29:03
  I Hate Talking: Table.
• 29:05
  I Hate Talking: Is that what his legs are, is a suction cup?
• 29:07
  I Hate Talking: -- I -- think it's a suction cup.
• 29:08
  I Hate Talking: We have to look it up.
• 29:09
  I Hate Talking: Now, again, you're talking about Toy Story 4, then you're like, is it Forky, the fork?
• 29:16
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, legs.
• 29:17
  I Hate Talking: He's -- he -- has like pipe cleaners, pipe cleaner legs, and -- we're -- gonna have to watch it and hands.
• 29:24
  I Hate Talking: I don't know.
• 29:24
  I Hate Talking: All right, so you're like referencing all these things.
• 29:28
  I Hate Talking: I just think that the potato head is like a very interesting conundrum.
• 29:33
  I Hate Talking: Where is the central nervousness and like, quote unquote soul of a potato head?
• 29:40
  I Hate Talking: Because it's certainly not in the potato and it's not in the eye.
• 29:43
  I Hate Talking: I'm pretty sure it's not in the ear or the hat.
• 29:46
  I Hate Talking: He doesn't always have a mustache, so this leaves like the nose and the feet.
• 29:52
  I Hate Talking: That's it.
• 29:52
  I Hate Talking: I would have fully argued it was a potato itself, but you're right.
• 29:58
  I Hate Talking: Since we don't, even when it happened, I'll have to go back and watch that particular scene and see sort of when his Cognition comes alive.
• 30:08
  I Hate Talking: By when he places a particular body part into the tortilla.
• 30:12
  I Hate Talking: That may be an enlightening fact.
• 30:16
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, because I don't know when that happened after it.
• 30:22
  I Hate Talking: His arms are sort of independently able to do things, so it's sort of like what's the, the Addams Family, sort of like, the hand.
• 30:32
  I Hate Talking: The hand has a name, right?
• 30:33
  I Hate Talking: I was right.
• 30:35
  I Hate Talking: It's the thing.
• 30:36
  I Hate Talking: Well, now it's just referred to as thing or thingte thing.
• 30:42
  I Hate Talking: Right, because the doesn't count.
• 30:44
  I Hate Talking: There you go.
• 30:48
  I Hate Talking: So you could call it, what was it, you call it, huh?
• 30:52
  I Hate Talking: Uh, -- versus -- the coughing.
• 30:55
  I Hate Talking: -- I -- guess so.
• 30:57
  I Hate Talking: All right, so, if you likewise have more questions and answers from this podcast, you can always let us know in a comment, email, or text message, and perhaps there's other people that have not seen the Toy Story series and this probably is not a good introduction into the Toy Story universe, but share it nonetheless.
• 31:20
  I Hate Talking: OK, 12 or 3, rate your favorites.
• 31:23
  I Hate Talking: One is 11 is so it's the most organic and like original storyline.
• 31:29
  I Hate Talking: 2 is gonna come up as 3, I think, because 3 deals with a lot of existential issues and some.
• 31:40
  I Hate Talking: Things on like consciousness in general that I think are interesting.
• 31:44
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I liked 3 way more than I remembered liking 3.
• 31:49
  I Hate Talking: 2, I think it's just like a rip off of like other movies.
• 31:53
  I Hate Talking: I mean, it has like a storyline, but there's so much like it's, yeah, it's cheapened by the fact that they're trying to like jam in all these other -- cultural references to -- it.
• 32:06
  I Hate Talking: I liked it, but I agree.
• 32:08
  I Hate Talking: I think it's cheapened.
• 32:10
  I Hate Talking: All right, I'd say 132 so far.
• 32:13
  I Hate Talking: Same.
• 32:13
  I Hate Talking: All right, we'll find out next week.
• 32:16
  I Hate Talking: So from your friends at I Hate Talking, until next time, remember, it is only through talking that we begin the journey to understanding.