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We Are In A Sex Recession….  Nearly 25% of Young Adults Had NO SEX In Past Year! · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Sunday, September 27th, and it
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  Speaker 1: seems the bad news just keeps on coming. We got inflation.
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  Speaker 1: We got gas prices going up. We got the war
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  Speaker 1: in Iran. Eggs cost too much. Beef cost too much.
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  Speaker 1: And now they're telling us we are in a recession,
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  Speaker 1: a sex recession. Oh, couldn't get any worse than that.
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  Speaker 1: And with that, welcome to this episode. Of Amy and TJ,
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  Speaker 1: a sex recession is what we're currently in. But it's
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  Speaker 1: important to note, Robes, this does not apply to all
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  Speaker 1: age groups. We're talking about a particular age group. They
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  Speaker 1: are in a recession.
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  Speaker 2: This is so bizarre. It is the opposite of what
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  Speaker 2: you would think.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, there are two new studies out that show younger people.
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  Speaker 2: literally are not having sex.
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  Speaker 3: And they're certainly not having as much sex as past generations.
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  Speaker 2: And there are actual real concerns because of it.
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  Speaker 1: Robes on its face, right? You having less sex is
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  Speaker 1: one thing. No, no, no, folks. We're talking about this
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  Speaker 1: because they are having so little sex that scientists are
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  Speaker 1: getting concerned of the future of this country.
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  Speaker 3: So there are two studies, the Institute for Family Studies
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  Speaker 3: and Do you buy this?
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  Speaker 2: This is wild to me.
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  Speaker 3: They claim 24% of adults ages 18 to 29 reported
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  Speaker 3: having no sex in the past year. That is nearly
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  Speaker 3: a quarter of adults from 18 to 29 when their
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  Speaker 3: bodies are hot, when they're young, when that testosterone is pumping.
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  Speaker 2: They're not having sex? That is wild to me.
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  Speaker 3: Um....
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  Speaker 1: The headline says one thing, and then you start thinking
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  Speaker 1: about all the 18 to 29-year-olds you know, and what
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  Speaker 1: they're doing, and where they spend their time, and how
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  Speaker 1: long they're in their room by themselves sometimes, and spending
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  Speaker 1: their time. The type, Robes, the headline might be shocking.
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  Speaker 1: The breakdown, you go, oh, this is just the next piece, Robes,
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  Speaker 1: to phones, isolation, social media. It's all ties in. They're
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  Speaker 1: not drinking. They're drinking less. Are they smoking less?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're smoking less. They're smoking cigarettes less.
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  Speaker 1: They're vaping more.
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  Speaker 3: And all of that, what you just mentioned, we'll get
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  Speaker 3: into the whys, but all of those reasons play into this.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, when you hear that nearly a quarter of
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  Speaker 3: all adults, well, I said not all adults, but young
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  Speaker 3: adults had no sex in the past year, they've been
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  Speaker 3: doing these types of studies. It has doubled from 10
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  Speaker 3: years ago. So that same question was asked. Just 12%
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  Speaker 3: of young adults reported not having sex. So that is significant,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that it has doubled in a decade. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Playboy did a study.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know Playboy did studies.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? I know this sounds a little crazy,
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  Speaker 1: but Playboy has been responsible for some pretty significant cultural events.
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  Speaker 1: reporting over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, people forget for the articles, I know.
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  Speaker 1: People, that's always a joke. Rose, I could go, I
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  Speaker 1: could find you a ton of significant interviews and whatnot
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  Speaker 1: they've done over the years.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: They have gotten credit. I know, I know. That's always
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  Speaker 1: the joke.
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  Speaker 3: It is the joke.
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  Speaker 1: But you gotta give them credit. They have done some
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  Speaker 1: good stuff over the years.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so they also conducted a study. They found that,
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  Speaker 3: and this wasn't even young adults, babe. This was 29%
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  Speaker 3: of respondents overall said they hadn't had sex in the
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  Speaker 3: past three months. 30% of adults basically just haven't had
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  Speaker 3: sex in the past three months at all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't see any issue. Now, scientists,
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  Speaker 1: if they're looking at this over years and seeing a trend,
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  Speaker 1: then that becomes a problem. But the idea, before the stat,
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  Speaker 1: if an adult tells you, what age was this? No,
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  Speaker 1: this was just all adults.
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  Speaker 3: This was just all adults over the past three months. 29%
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  Speaker 3: said they hadn't had sex in three months. And one
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  Speaker 3: in five had never had sex at all.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, of all adults? They said younger, like of the respondents.
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  Speaker 1: These are younger or just all?
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  Speaker 3: They must be younger. 20% had not had sex at all.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the twist, though. That same study, this again, Playboy, 80%
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  Speaker 3: of respondents reported moderate to very high levels of desire
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  Speaker 3: to have sex. So... 80% of the folks who said, yeah, we,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of us aren't having sex, 80% of them really, really,
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  Speaker 3: really want to be having sex.
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  Speaker 1: It takes effort. You do have to put the phone down.
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  Speaker 1: You do have to brush your teeth. You might need
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  Speaker 1: to get a haircut. You might need to coordinate your
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  Speaker 1: shoes with your belt. You might need to do some
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  Speaker 1: things to go out and actually look desirable to somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: Robes isn't, I don't know, I haven't looked. This is
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  Speaker 1: another one of those folks, yes, that Robes tells me
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  Speaker 1: not to look into ahead of time, but does it,
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  Speaker 1: Does that factor into any of this, the effort? People
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  Speaker 1: don't want to put the effort in to doing what
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  Speaker 1: it takes to date and to have attraction and to
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  Speaker 1: become desirable. You're just supposed to, I'm here on my phone.
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  Speaker 1: I swiped. What's the problem?
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  Speaker 3: Right? I mean, I think that people, I would just
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  Speaker 3: say this generation that has only known a phone and
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  Speaker 3: have relied on dating apps, and by the way, they
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  Speaker 3: do say that burnout from dating apps is part of
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  Speaker 3: the reason why people just give up.
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  Speaker 2: They just give up.
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  Speaker 1: Burnout from the apps?
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: You remember when women used to say they were burned
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  Speaker 1: out from dating?
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  Speaker 3: They're burned out from swiping. Now, there is some positive news,
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  Speaker 3: I think, especially for parents.
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  Speaker 2: Can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: With teenagers, the CDC just released its stats. There is
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  Speaker 3: a massive decline in teen sex. And I do think
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  Speaker 3: that that is a good thing. In 2013, how many,
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  Speaker 3: what percentage of teens reported having sex do you think
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  Speaker 3: in 2013?
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  Speaker 2: 47%. That seems about right.
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  Speaker 3: About half of teens in 2013 said they had had sex.
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  Speaker 3: In 2023, that dropped to 32%. That is a huge
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  Speaker 3: decline in teen sex.
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  Speaker 1: We've reported on this and teen pregnancy rates being down.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, congratulations. Scientists, schools. Educators, CDC, everybody who has put
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  Speaker 1: an effort into that over decades can see those results.
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  Speaker 1: That is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: That is awesome. That is the good news.
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  Speaker 3: But for grown adults who are fully capable and it's
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  Speaker 3: a healthy thing to be having sex, why are they
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  Speaker 3: not having sex?
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  Speaker 2: Experts say, yes, the burnout from dating apps.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing I thought this was interesting, they say
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  Speaker 3: that this younger generation feels more socially anxious about.
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  Speaker 2: Going out and meeting people.
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  Speaker 3: Shocking that they report feeling this massive fear of rejection
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  Speaker 3: because we know as people who didn't grow up with phones,
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  Speaker 3: they have not had the same kind of one on
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  Speaker 3: one social exposure that we had coming up.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have apps. We didn't have phones. We had
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  Speaker 2: to go out.
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  Speaker 3: And meet people and engage and get rejected and be
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  Speaker 3: OK with it.
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  Speaker 1: But we get rejected one-on-one. These folks are looking online
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  Speaker 1: and somebody didn't like your post. So, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: got 50 comments. That's 50 rejections. That's nothing compared to you, Robach,
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  Speaker 1: when one dude turns you down. Robes, that part of
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Human interaction is everything. This is how you learn, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Social cues. How you learn not to throw a fit
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  Speaker 1: when you get rejected. It's a part of it. It's okay.
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  Speaker 1: And you learn. If you never leave your room to
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  Speaker 1: learn that, how can anyone have any idea about sexual
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  Speaker 1: desire if you're not sitting next to someone and knowing,
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  Speaker 1: I like that smell. I like that hair. You know what?
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind that she chews that way. You know what?
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  Speaker 1: I never thought I'd see a woman in jeans like
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  Speaker 1: that that I think was hot. These are things you
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  Speaker 1: figure out in dating. Robed, you're sitting in a room. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm horny as hell. I wish I could have some sex.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't going out there to get rejected.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it sounds like. And by the way, we
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  Speaker 3: love Married at First Sight. We love all of these
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  Speaker 3: dating shows. We're watching the newest season now. And you
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  Speaker 3: see these attractive 20-something folks, men and women, both saying
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  Speaker 3: they're afraid.
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  Speaker 2: They have sexual, what do they call it? Intimacy, anxiety,
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  Speaker 2: or sexual anxiety.
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  Speaker 3: And you're looking at these two good-looking, young, robust people,
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, why do you have sexual anxiety? They
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  Speaker 3: haven't had enough experience in the real world. And they're
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  Speaker 3: too afraid of doing it wrong or not, or again,
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  Speaker 3: being rejected.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any suggestion that there's something else contributing to this?
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  Speaker 1: This new generation is not just a matter of phones.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just... I don't know, is it something they're
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  Speaker 1: seeing in media these days? Is it something, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: TV shows, different types of, I don't know. Is there
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  Speaker 1: anything else they're pointing to other than they're coming up
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  Speaker 1: in a different way?
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: They said many young adults have moved back in with
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  Speaker 3: their parents, which has now become socially acceptable. They say
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  Speaker 3: it used to be embarrassing, like people would never want
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  Speaker 3: to admit it. Now they're proud of it because it
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  Speaker 3: makes them say that they're financially savvy. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: the kids who have moved back in with their parents
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  Speaker 3: have jobs, have really good paying jobs. And so they're proud.
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  Speaker 3: We've also seen this on Married at First Sight. Look
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  Speaker 3: at me being financially smart. I'm saving my money. And
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  Speaker 3: it's actually almost a flex to say you've moved in
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  Speaker 3: with your parents.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, then you help me here. It's a flex to
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  Speaker 1: say I moved in with my parents because I'm financially savvy,
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  Speaker 1: like you just said. On the other side of that,
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  Speaker 1: is there an indication that for the people who are
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  Speaker 1: out there dating who live in their own homes don't
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  Speaker 1: mind or find it attractive or they don't skip a
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  Speaker 1: beat when I say, oh, you live at home? No
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  Speaker 1: big deal. Is it being accepted as a practice that
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  Speaker 1: might even be attractive?
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  Speaker 3: They are claiming that it does not have the stigma
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  Speaker 3: that it once had. However, it is stopping those folks
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  Speaker 3: from bringing home somebody to have sex in mom and
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  Speaker 3: dad's homes. So that's contributing to The lack of sex because, yes,
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  Speaker 3: privacy issues or just the fact that that would possibly
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  Speaker 3: be embarrassing to have your parents be home while you're
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  Speaker 3: having sex with a girlfriend or bringing a date home.
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  Speaker 1: But no suggestion that it will make someone less aroused.
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  Speaker 1: When they hear that you live at home with your mama.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, it would be like that for you or me,
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  Speaker 3: but they're saying this generation doesn't mind it as much. Now,
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  Speaker 3: listen to the numbers, too. This is from June 2026.
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  Speaker 3: This is a report in Realtor.com. So for 2025, 25.2
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  Speaker 3: million adults, adults under 35 lived with their parents. That
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  Speaker 3: is a record high since they've been keeping records. It
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  Speaker 3: is the highest it has ever been. 25.2 million adults,
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  Speaker 3: 35 and under live with their parents.
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  Speaker 1: I know you said stigma, but how much of that
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  Speaker 1: has to do with job market and the realities of.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure that all plays into it, but
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  Speaker 3: they did say a lot of these folks do have
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  Speaker 3: jobs and they wanted that to be, that was what
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  Speaker 3: was different from generations past where you moved in with
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  Speaker 3: your parents because you had to, because you had no
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  Speaker 3: other choice because you lost your job or you couldn't
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  Speaker 3: find a job. This isn't what they're saying. They just
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  Speaker 3: like mom and dad and like to be saving their money.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously they're not having to pay rent rent or
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  Speaker 3: a massively reduced one and they get meals cooked for
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  Speaker 3: them and it just feels good and safe and awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And they don't have to fully grow up. And so
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  Speaker 2: they're not having sex.
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  Speaker 1: There is nothing like mama being upstairs that will mess
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  Speaker 1: up your sex life.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Now, when we come back, we're going to tell you
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  Speaker 3: about some of the other factors to blame.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them are good.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we mentioned the drinking less part, but experts also
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  Speaker 3: point to what this could lead to long term for
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  Speaker 3: our society. Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it's official. It's been studied. It's been documented. Young people
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  Speaker 3: just are not having sex.
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  Speaker 1: But you said they want to.
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  Speaker 2: They want to, but they're not having it.
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  Speaker 3: So a couple of the other factors that experts have
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  Speaker 3: looked into as to the why behind all of this,
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  Speaker 3: they say one of the big ones, young people aren't drinking.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to fewer parties. They aren't, that's, and look,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the sex maybe that's like the regret sex.
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  Speaker 3: And so if it's stopping regret sex, that's a good thing,
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  Speaker 3: I would say, because being drunk and at a party
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  Speaker 3: and waking up next to somebody isn't exactly the kind
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  Speaker 3: of healthy sex that any parent would want for their
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  Speaker 3: child or anybody would want for someone they love.
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  Speaker 1: But they make for good stories.
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  Speaker 2: And you learn lessons along the way.
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  Speaker 3: You do.
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  Speaker 1: Robes, this is a part of, I'm not suggesting anybody
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  Speaker 1: run out there and go have some irresponsible sex. No,
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  Speaker 1: not at all. But, bro, there's an experience that some
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  Speaker 1: people do have that leads you to some maturity. It
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  Speaker 1: leads you to.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's... Some lessons are learned the hard way, but yes,
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  Speaker 3: because there is less of that party mentality.
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  Speaker 2: Fewer people, they think that absolutely has contributed to less sex.
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  Speaker 1: They also... You know what? I'm sorry. On the drink,
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  Speaker 1: is it the drinking or is the social aspect that
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  Speaker 1: comes with the drinking? Are they saying you get loose?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: But then they say those people aren't going out anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Right. They're not going to parties. So, like, think about
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  Speaker 3: the parties that we went to coming up. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: The house parties, the basement parties, the parties. They're just
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  Speaker 3: not happening the way they used to. Now, they also
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  Speaker 3: say COVID actually hurt this particular age group significantly because
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  Speaker 3: right at a time when they were supposed to be
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  Speaker 3: developing these social skills, for two.
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  Speaker 2: Years, they were.
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  Speaker 3: It was a pivotal time where you're developing habits and
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  Speaker 3: you're creating... And maybe, yes, experiencing certain things, they were stunted.
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  Speaker 3: Like high school, college, all of a sudden, boom, you're isolated.
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  Speaker 3: And you get into other habits of isolation, of your.
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  Speaker 2: Computer, of being in your room alone, of not going out.
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  Speaker 3: And it just created habits at a pivotal time during
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  Speaker 3: their lives.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I can never keep this straight, so help
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  Speaker 1: me here. The order of these groups. What's Gen Z?
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  Speaker 3: Gen Z is, I believe it's like basically everyone in
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  Speaker 3: their 20s pretty much right now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Is Annalise Gen Z?
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  Speaker 2: Annalise is Gen Z. Ava is Gen Z. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So that 18 to 29 age group. Well, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: here's a good way to look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Sabine is now Gen Alpha.
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  Speaker 3: And she said she missed it by like her birthday
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  Speaker 3: is beginning of January. So the cutoff was December 31st.
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  Speaker 3: So I would say anyone 14 to 30 basically is
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  Speaker 3: in this Gen Z group. And so, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 3: the group that you would expect to be having lots
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  Speaker 3: of sex in.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's why it's so shocking.
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  Speaker 3: And they say that young people are also, and I've
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  Speaker 3: heard this from both of my daughters, report a significantly
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  Speaker 3: less desire to get married, to have families, especially at
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  Speaker 3: a younger age.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody wants to punt to later.
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  Speaker 3: And so that is showing up already in our fertility rate.
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  Speaker 1: Do we know that about regions, right? We are in
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  Speaker 1: the Northeast. And yes, I've always heard that from everybody
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  Speaker 1: I've interacted with since I've been in New York. But
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  Speaker 1: in the South, we still know people getting married very early.
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  Speaker 2: My nephew just got engaged at 22.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I wonder, is it still the way, it's
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  Speaker 1: always been that way, right? The South and certain places are,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if it's changed.
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  Speaker 3: You and I both got married, both got engaged at 22,
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  Speaker 3: married at 23 from the South. That's almost unheard of
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  Speaker 3: where we live now in the Northeast. And certainly our
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  Speaker 3: daughters are being influenced by that. But yeah, family members
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  Speaker 3: in the South are. Plenty of them getting married young.
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  Speaker 3: Plenty of them. But the fertility rate is dropping. In
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  Speaker 3: just the last decade, we went from 2.1 children per
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  Speaker 3: woman to just 1.6. That is a massive drop-off in
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  Speaker 3: just 10 years.
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  Speaker 2: And it's going to go down further, they believe.
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  Speaker 1: And, look, I mean, reasons for that. What were we
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  Speaker 1: just doing? We just did some episode talking about fertility
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  Speaker 1: rates when it has to do with women who are
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  Speaker 1: waiting longer. Who just had a baby or something we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about. But we were talking about this and
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  Speaker 1: that the fertility rate, a part of your explaining, but
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  Speaker 1: it's also dropping because women have different opportunities. They have
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  Speaker 1: different opportunities in the job force. And science. Medical science
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  Speaker 1: has advanced. They can wait.
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  Speaker 2: They're told they can.
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  Speaker 1: It's possible. Who was it? Just had a baby and
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: we said we need to make sure this was via surrogate.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: We went, Right? You always, because we have so many
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: of these stories, who was it? Who were we just
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: talking about? The story was about Millie Bobby Brown having
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: adopted a second at the age, or a surrogate at 22.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's had her second baby by 22. But we were.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Talking about something I can't remember. Forgive me, forgive me,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: forgive me. I thought I was, it was right on
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: the tip of my tongue.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm trying to remember who it is, too, because
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: I know, obviously, Lady Gaga just had a baby at 40.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about. Yeah, I think that might
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: be what it was. We don't know if she had
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: a surrogate or not because no one ever saw her pregnant.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: But as you were saying, it's important in those stories that, yes,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: they get out. Oh, my goodness, she's 45 and had
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: a baby. She's 47. I can wait. I can wait.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I can wait. And sometimes those stories don't come with,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: this would be a surrogate, by the way.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I would even tell because both of my
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: daughters have talked about waiting until later, and they'll.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Point to, look at Janet Jackson, who had a baby
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: at 50.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I even have some friends who had a baby at
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: 50 and one at 49. And I have to tell them,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: just so you know... almost certainly those were donor eggs.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Your eggs are not viable. You don't have the kind
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: of eggs that are going to produce a healthy baby.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: And so I don't think young women are told that caveat,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: which actually is a big deal because if you want
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: to have your biological child, waiting till you're in your
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: 40s is not a guarantee. You might be able to
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: still get pregnant, sure, and you might still be able
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to have a baby, absolutely, but not necessarily with your DNA.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And that's something I think that gets lost on a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: lot of young women. They are surprised to hear that. Now,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: how about this? I wanted to end it with this
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: because I thought this was interesting. The top single reason
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: in some of these studies that Americans gave for remaining single,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: it was not money. And I would think in past generations,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: It would be, well, I want to make sure I
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: get established. I want to make sure I have enough
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: money before I actually start a family or settle down
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: with someone. Money is always what people would have attributed
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: it to. So the top single reason was not money.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: It was not jobs. It wasn't even being ready to
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: be committed. It was, quote, it's hard to find the
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: right person to marry. Ain't that interesting? That's when I
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: go back to the apps and the socialization. I feel
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: like when you think you have so many choices, you
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: think you're swiping, you're swiping, you're swiping, you think there's
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: the perfect persons out there or you think there'll be
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: someone better and you have too many choices and therefore
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: you can make none. They said it's hard to find
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: the right person to marry. I think people have high
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: expectations and false expectations of what the perfect mate looks like,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: sounds like, is like.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: That's always been the case, though, right? And hearing everything
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you were saying, I think, fine. Stop looking. If you
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: have that, if you literally, you tell me, Rose, and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: maybe a lot of people and women in particular do,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you're on the hunt for somebody who fits into An
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: idea you have in your head. Yep. I'm not going
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to go out and find them. I'm going to keep
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: swiping and swiping and swiping until I find something that
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: fits that. Then I'm going to go out and have
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: coffee with them. And it's not going to go well.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Then I'm going to come back here and I'm going
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to get online and I'm going to go off about
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: how terrible dating is. Is that generally how it goes? Yes.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And that's fine with people's experiences. It's a new generation thing.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Knock yourselves out to each his and her own. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: hear it and we just came up in a different way.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: We have a different experience, Robes, and I know good
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and well how wonderful it is to have a surprise
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: attraction or excited energy or butterflies that you didn't expect.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Those are experiences we're not talking about anymore. Robes, there
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is nothing like walking into a place Seeing somebody at
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the end of the bar or somebody that you just
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: unexpectedly ran into and you get butterflies in a subway
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: car or just robes. Those are just experiences that I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: don't hear talked about when it comes to dating and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: sex recessions. And I just swiped and why can't he
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: do this? Okay, just give it a shot. Just talk
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: to somebody.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And if you get rejected, it's okay. Welcome to the world.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: What is the thing we always, you say it all
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the time about preparing the road for the child. All
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of these potential daters are trying to prepare.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's so true.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Prepare that road. So make sure when I start dating,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: there are no bumps, no detours, no nothing. No, you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: need to get battle hardened to go out there and date.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: You need to be able to recognize from the jump.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: In five minutes, this dude ain't for me. Because you
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: know it because you've been there. You've done that. You
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have enough experience.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: And you learn about yourself along the way, too. There's
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: no better way to grow personally, individually, than to experience
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: life with someone and recognize how we're all so different
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and to find those ways of just, yeah, compromise. I
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: don't think anyone wants to compromise anything anymore.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: They're told they don't have to. Because if you do that,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you're in some way giving up a part of who
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you are for somebody else. You don't have to do that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Take me as I am. This is me. What's that
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: line you say all the time? I'm a lot. You
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: say it sometimes. When people are this is who I am.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just being me.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just me. Like, yeah, accept me, take me
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: or leave me. But like, this is who I am. Yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: who you are can be an asshole sometimes. Sometimes we
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: need to change.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: We need to evolve. We always do. But look, hopefully,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: This is a wake up call. And we've seen it
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: in our own kids. I've seen it in some of
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: their friends. This fear of rejection, this fear of, criticism
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: this fear of having to compromise and man that all
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: of those things are what make us human and make
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: us grow so I hope I hope something changes and
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: y'all I mean just loosen up have some fun don't
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: worry so much about the outcome right.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Easy to say hard to do but yep um well.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I just think that this is something that hopefully will
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: change and won't stay the same.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Things always evolve. And I wanted to put this on
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: your map, everybody, or on your radar. Always appreciate you
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: listening to us, everyone. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk soon.