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- 0:06You're listening to the West Carol Morning Show. Tuesday morning, twenty fifth
- 0:11day of July. I'm Wes, Thanks for starting your day with me.
- 0:17Spent the day yesterday talking more about the Jason Alden song and the controversy around
- 0:25that. Is it really controversy, I don't know. People are making it
- 0:30controversy. They want it to be controversy so they can try to discount it
- 0:33and push it aside, I guess, but it's made it into a huge
- 0:36hit for him. So after talking about it Friday, a little bit more
- 0:40about it yesterday. I didn't talk yesterday about the Women's World Cup that is
- 0:46now underway, and I talked a little bit about some of the comments from
- 0:53Meghan Rappino, who was one of the best players in the world old not
- 1:00too long ago. She didn't have a great game against Vietnam. The team
- 1:07overall a won three O. The women's team won three OH for the US,
- 1:11not the performance many expected from them in the first game. And I've
- 1:18talked a little bit about the comments from Rapino. She says that she would
- 1:22welcome a woman who had been born a man on the team, even if
- 1:27that meant taking a biological woman off the roster for the US women's national team.
- 1:37That's how much she stands with the trans community. That's how much she
- 1:40supports them. Now, I pointed out when I talked about that it might
- 1:46be easy for someone who is, you know, like Rapino. This is
- 1:49going to be her last time playing in the World Cup for the US national
- 1:53team, and she's getting to the point of retiring from soccer. So it's
- 1:59probably a lot easier for someone in her position to say, yeah, somebody
- 2:02could do that. The up and comers that are just trying to fight for
- 2:06a position on the team that might not have gotten a position on the team
- 2:10if a biological born male took their spot on the team that had transitioned and
- 2:16become a woman to compete. So that was the conversation topic before. But
- 2:21now we have another controversy surrounding this team. We're back to talking about the
- 2:28national anthem and how people act during the national anthem. We thought maybe this
- 2:31was in the past, but this is another one of those issues that they're
- 2:36just not going to let it go. They're going to pick the scab and
- 2:38when it starts to heal. They're not talking about it very much anymore.
- 2:42In football. They're not talking about at all now because it's not football season.
- 2:47But I'm not talking about it last season. They haven't been talking about
- 2:52it a whole lot in any of the sports, really beget professional sports,
- 2:55because it hasn't really they have been bringing attention to it, so therefore there
- 3:01hasn't anything to talk about. I couldn't tell you how many NFL players last
- 3:07season knelt during the anthem, or stay in the locker room during the anthem,
- 3:13or didn't participate in celebrating during the anthem or anything. I don't know.
- 3:20I didn't hear any conversation about it, and if i'd heard anything about
- 3:23it, I would have tried to ignore it. But I don't remember hearing
- 3:25anything about it, and I've told you before, I do think that there's
- 3:32a difference between professional athletes and athletes that are competing to honor the US,
- 3:40to wear the flag, to be there, to compete on a national team.
- 3:45I do think there's a difference. I think a professional athlete is they're
- 3:52representing the team that they play for, the city that they play for,
- 3:55the fans of that team and I do think that if the ownership of that
- 4:00team that they're on says that it's their right as an American to kneel or
- 4:06stay in the locker room or whatever they want to do, whatever they want
- 4:12to do during the anthem, if that's what they would like to do,
- 4:15and the owner supports them in that way, and I think they should have
- 4:19the right to do it. I do. I don't think it's in their
- 4:24best interest. I don't think it's the best thing to do. I don't
- 4:27think it shows a solidarity with other American citizens. I don't think it shows
- 4:31a solidarity and appreciation for those who've lost their lives in order to give us
- 4:38those kinds of freedoms. But I do think that the freedoms are guaranteed.
- 4:41It's a First Amendment thing. That's my opinion. Not everybody agrees with me,
- 4:45and that's okay. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't kneel during the
- 4:49national anthem. I wouldn't protest during the national anthem. I was trying to
- 4:54think once what it would take for me to do that, and I suppose
- 4:58there could be things that could happen. They could make me want to be
- 5:01so upset with the country. In the current state of the country, I
- 5:08couldn't do it to protest the founding. I couldn't do it to protest the
- 5:13veterans that have served. I couldn't do that. But maybe there could be
- 5:17something in the current And I guess that's one of the things I would ask
- 5:20people. Is there something that can happen that can make you say, I
- 5:23don't even recognize this country. It's frustrating. I'm actually kind of surprised that
- 5:28the people who've sort of hijacked America right now in some corners and scenarios,
- 5:33I'm surprised that those people are not pleased with America and that the people who
- 5:39feel like the country has kind of been hijacked in some ways are not the
- 5:43ones that are protesting. But maybe that says something as well about has it
- 5:46really been hijacked to people really feel that way or not. So I don't
- 5:53know if they're protesting or not at NFL games, and I don't care,
- 5:57But I'm maybe the best part about it is that they're not talking about it.
- 6:00Maybe that's the best part because I said during the Colin Kaepernick or deal,
- 6:04as soon as everybody stops talking about it, as soon as people stop
- 6:10clicking on the news stories about it, as soon as the pregame show,
- 6:15stop showing who is kneeling, and stop showing them on the sidelines during the
- 6:20anthem. If it's going to be a thing and it's going to cause viewership
- 6:25to go down, maybe it's in their best interest not to show it,
- 6:29not to talk about it. If people want to protest it, let them
- 6:30protest it privately. If people want to be angry and mad and do something,
- 6:35let them do it privately. They can do whatever they want to do
- 6:38on the sideline. They don't have to participate. Okay, Okay. Now
- 6:43with that said, it's different when it's a national team. It's different when
- 6:46it's the Olympics. It's different when it's the World Cup and you're part of
- 6:49a national team. It should be I think because you're there specifically for a
- 6:55purpose. You're representing the country that is helping to put you there. Right,
- 7:00that's my thoughts. That's my opinion. Now I've said if they want
- 7:03to protest, and they're going to be allowed to protest it by the organization,
- 7:09if if that's what they want to do. If if a national team
- 7:11says and it doesn't to be US. But if a national team from anywhere
- 7:15in the world wants to let their participants not have anything to do with the
- 7:20anthem, then come up with a way to do it so it doesn't have
- 7:25to be televised, or that it doesn't have to be shown. It's a
- 7:28little different in this scenario because it is a competition for a national team,
- 7:32and they do show the anthems. So the US women's national team national anthem
- 7:42played, and the members of the team, some of them, And I'm
- 7:50looking right now at a photo of them, and I see and I'm just
- 7:54looking at the team, and I see one, two, three, four,
- 8:01I see four in this particular image with their hands on their hearts.
- 8:07I can't there's a couple that I can't make out whether or not their hands
- 8:09or on their hearts or not. But I saw at least a story that
- 8:13just said that, you know, not all of them did it, were
- 8:16respectful during the anthem, Not all of them had their hands on their hearts.
- 8:20Not all of them did that. I don't see Megan Rapino in this
- 8:26lineup, so I'm assuming that maybe she was allowed to be in the back.
- 8:31I don't know, so it says there were five players who did,
- 8:37in fact put their hands on them. So I'm seeing in this image,
- 8:39I see four. So it's the six of the eleven players who stood on
- 8:43the field had their hands on their sides or behind their back. And I
- 8:48guess, yes, some were allowed not to come out at all. I
- 8:52suppose that's part of what they allow them to do. They tell them that
- 8:56they're allowed to do that, so they get to stay in the back or
- 8:58whatever it is. Now Vietnamese players sang along and hands over their hearts and
- 9:07all the things that they did, you know. And I say that the
- 9:11eleven players, I guess were the starters. I don't know where the other
- 9:13players were. I don't want to say that they were not out there or
- 9:18whatever it was. Okay, so we had eleven players on the field,
- 9:24the starters. Six of them didn't put their hands on their hearts. Five
- 9:26of them did. Now there were people who were upset by that. There
- 9:33were people who said, oh my gosh, can you believe it's six like
- 9:35hat more than half of the team that was on the field to play did
- 9:41not respectfully stand there for the anthem. Okay, that part of it I
- 9:46understood there were people that were chiming in on the national team part of it.
- 9:52Now, I do think it's best if we just ignored it, that
- 9:54would be the best thing. But what was interesting to me, though,
- 10:00is that the story went a step further and said that the five that had
- 10:07their hands on their hearts, only three of them sang along to the anthem.
- 10:11And people are just outraged that only three of the players sang along.
- 10:18I don't think you have to sing along, do you. I mean,
- 10:22I know we've seen other countries that I think we're forced sometimes to sing along
- 10:26with their anthem. Feels like they're getting pressure from I don't know, the
- 10:31government. They have to sing along, they have to. I do think
- 10:37it's a novelty that we don't force our players to sing along. I do
- 10:41think that that's a novelty. I also don't think that it's our obligation.
- 10:45I mean, when you are at a sporting event, I assume that when
- 10:50they say rise for the national anthem, that you rise and stand up for
- 10:52the national anthem. I'm gonna assume that if you're capable, I'm gonna assume
- 10:56that you take off your hat. I'm going to assume that you put your
- 10:58hand or or your hat over your heart. I'm not going to assume that
- 11:03you're gonna sing along. Be honest with you, I don't know that I
- 11:05always sing along. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I didn't realize
- 11:11it was an obligation to sing along. Now I know. I'm not competing
- 11:15on a national team that's been sent there. They're wearing the team USA patch
- 11:22on their clothes. They're red, white and blue patch right there on it,
- 11:26and they're wearing their hoodies their uniforms, and there's some sort of financial
- 11:31support for them to be there. I mean, I would think you would
- 11:35sing along, but maybe you don't have to sing along. Is that really
- 11:39where we're going to draw the line that they didn't sing along? Five players
- 11:43stood there respectfully with their hands on their hearts, six didn't, but only
- 11:50three of them sing along. Oh my gosh, I can't believe they didn't
- 11:52sing along. I don't know that we should be expecting that. I don't
- 11:56know that we should demand that they sing along. It might look ridiculous.
- 12:00Well I guess it did look ridiculous with three of them singing and some of
- 12:03them not. But have we ever at the Super Bowl have we had the
- 12:07You go over it and go buy the players, and you see the quarterbacks
- 12:11standing there with their eyes closed, trying to be focused and ready to play.
- 12:16To people say that, Oh my gosh, I can't believe that.
- 12:22I was going to say a quarterback that hasn't been in a super Bowl,
- 12:24just to be funny, but I'm not going to do that. I'm not
- 12:26going to pick on Dak Prescott. But suppose that became a thing that became
- 12:31the new standard. I'm concerned that this is going to become the new standard.
- 12:35We're going to expect every time the national anthem plays, everyone is supposed
- 12:39to sing along. And I'll go a step further because I also kind of
- 12:43don't understand this. This is going to probably upset a few people. But
- 12:48at you know, seventh inning stretch for a lot of baseball teams. I
- 12:52know the Yankees do it, I know the Braves do it. I know
- 12:56some many teams around the country do it. But they'll sing you know,
- 13:00God Bless America. And people stand up for that and they take off their
- 13:05heads and put their hands on the heart. You don't have to do that.
- 13:07That's not a takeoff your there's no official national etiquette for that song.
- 13:13You don't have to do that. I think people do it because there's this
- 13:16peer pressure. They're worried that they're going to get the same kind of flack.
- 13:20Then people will get about this. And if you're at a sporting event
- 13:24and you don't sing the national anthem when it plays, I don't think people
- 13:28should be able to give you a hard time. And I just I don't
- 13:30think people should be able to give you a hard time for not putting your
- 13:33hand on your heart during God Bless America. That's not our national anthem,
- 13:39in spite of what we hear. Sometimes there's only one. There's there's been
- 13:43one that's been declared the second one, which isn't really official, but there's
- 13:48only one, and God Bless America is not a required hat off hand on
- 13:54your heart. People do it, though they shoot your looks if you don't
- 13:58do it. We were at a Braves game not long ago and I just
- 14:01didn't do it. My kids were doing it, my wife was doing it,
- 14:03and I thought, we don't. You know, we don't have to,
- 14:05but that's what you want to do. I think it's like the people
- 14:09that are still wearing masks knock yourself out, wear the mask in the store
- 14:13if you want to. I don't care. Doesn't hurt me, doesn't hurt
- 14:16me to put your hand on her. But I'm not hurting you playing my
- 14:18hand on my heart during God Bless America. How many other songs are we
- 14:22going to have to do it for? We have to pay of a certain
- 14:24way when we hear amazing grace at a funeral, Like it's okay if you
- 14:30want to do it, but do we have to do it? But this
- 14:33just goes back to the national anthem and these athletes, I understand, it
- 14:37would be wonderful if they were so appreciative and thankful and understood the blessings that
- 14:43they have being in the country that they're in, being able to be on
- 14:48this particular team, this team that is going for a third consecutive World Cup
- 14:52win. That itself is astonishing. They should be thankful that they have that
- 14:58opportunity. But I think they are a little spoiled by all of these things.
- 15:01You're spoiled by the freedoms that we have. You're spoiled by the opportunity
- 15:05you have being on that team with that talent. And yes, there are
- 15:11a lot of individuals in that group that make up that ridiculous amount of talent.
- 15:15But you could take any one of them and put them on some of
- 15:18the other teams and they're not going to see the successes that they've seen.
- 15:22So maybe they should be thankful that they're on the field. Maybe they should
- 15:26be appreciative that they're they're representing a little bit more. But should we obligate
- 15:33athletes to sing along to the national anthem before the game? I think that's
- 15:37a bit much. I think it's great. I do like and I'm looking
- 15:39at Julie Arts she's singing. I know she's one of the ones that was
- 15:43singing, and I think it's great that they were singing. But maybe it's
- 15:46just a bit much to ask that they sing the anthem every time. I
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- 19:19break. All right, we've talked a little bit about the fact we're in
- 19:30the final stages of summer break, at least in the Chattahoochee Valley area.
- 19:36I know we've got some listeners outside of that area, and you may have
- 19:38a little bit longer in your summer than we do here, but we're winding
- 19:42down. We're in that police take care of the final paperwork phase. You
- 19:47haven't done that online paperwork stuff. You gotta get all that stuff done.
- 19:49By the way, if you're in the Muskogee County area anyway, let's talk
- 19:56a little bit about those last minute vacations and if you travel with a germophobe.
- 20:03I know people are they're getting back out there right and they're getting out
- 20:06there and traveling finally, and they feel like some of the germs are behind
- 20:10us. I do know somebody that picked up COVID while they were on vacation.
- 20:15You know, it still happens, But here we go. If you're
- 20:18traveling and places that you need to be very aware of when it comes to
- 20:23the high level of germs. This is a study done from Lysol pro Solutions
- 20:29and they measured contamination on services in airports, on planes, hotel rooms,
- 20:33and they want to tell you where you should be most aware as you're traveling
- 20:37in hotel rooms. Toilet handles that makes sense. TV remotes and door knobs
- 20:42tied okay, and remote seem pretty disgusting. Desktops, refrigerator handles, and
- 20:48night stands. So those are the germiest places inside hotel rooms. Hotel common
- 20:53areas. Elevator buttons yes, gross. If you haven't perfected the elbow push,
- 20:59you should. Luggage cart handrails, bathroom doors, front desk and elevator
- 21:04handrails, all those things. Anytime you're at a countertop which does roll over
- 21:10into germiest places in airport check in areas, the pen pad at check in
- 21:18kiosk, the check in countertops there you go, and baggage office countertops also
- 21:25disgusting. Any kind of countertop. People are breathing on that, right,
- 21:29they're breathing on it, near it, around it gonna be germy. And
- 21:32then actually on the plane, the seatbelt buckles and window shade handles are disgusting.
- 21:37The trade table latch, yes, and then overhead air vent dials and
- 21:41those are all the things that you end up, especially the trade table latch.
- 21:47You touch that right before you eat your meal. Just keep that in
- 21:51mind. Let's talk a little bit about work. Apparently, grumpy stayers is
- 21:56a new term for people who are unhappy at the jobs but they stay put
- 22:00and continue to work there anyway. They're grumpy stayers, so they say,
- 22:07basically, they feel like they've missed out on the great resignation and now they're
- 22:12cooling job market means they're kind of stuck somewhere and they're staying in that position
- 22:15that they don't necessarily want to like. That makes them grumpy, but they
- 22:19feel like they got to stay put. So they're grumpy stayers. I know
- 22:23grumpy stayers that I worked with many, many of them over the years,
- 22:29especially grumpy stayers, really really grumpy stayers. So I don't think this is
- 22:34a new thing, but the term, I guess is new something else I
- 22:38can relate to. Mark Cuban, he's a billionaire, owns the Dallas Mavericks.
- 22:44He's a shark. He's all that a Shark week, by the way,
- 22:45but that has not anything to do with the sharks. He agrees with
- 22:49you if you're one of those people who thinks that work meetings are a waste
- 22:52of time. I think most people who have to attend work meetings think it's
- 22:56a waste of time. I think the people who host the work meetings that
- 23:00they're productive, or that they're just something that you efficiently have to go through
- 23:03and power through and all that. Well, according to Mark Cuban, he
- 23:07says people over meet and overcall. He says meetings are the number one workplace
- 23:11habit killing productivity. He says it kills so much time, and he says
- 23:17emails are better, and he thinks that according to Guess. According to a
- 23:22twenty nineteen pole it agrees with him, saying that more than half of employees
- 23:26surveyed said meetings were just distractions from getting their work done. Now, that's
- 23:30a twenty nineteen poll that goes back to pre COVID because I can understand when
- 23:37you start thinking about people in the era when you were able to work at
- 23:42home, you're able to zoom and do meetings that way, and then they
- 23:47feel like now if they're back in the office and they're coming back into the
- 23:48meetings, that probably really really makes it worse, doesn't it. And finally,
- 23:53Twitter is x now. If you haven't noticed, and you're like me,
- 23:59you're very rare log into Twitter, maybe you didn't see it. I
- 24:02did notice it yesterday at one point, just because everybody was talking about how
- 24:06it was X. Now. Elon Musk has changed the name of Twitter.
- 24:11It's his right. He paid like forty billion for it. I think he
- 24:14can change it to whatever he wants to call it. I don't know how
- 24:17this is going to work moving forward, what the log in address will be.
- 24:21He likes the letter X. He's mentioned he likes the letter X.
- 24:23I don't know if it stands for ten or if it's an X. I
- 24:26don't know. Are they going to still call him tweets? Are they going
- 24:30to be x's. I don't know how that's all going to play out,
- 24:33but I guess we'll find out in the coming days. But by the way,
- 24:36if you log into Twitter, it's just going to give you a big
- 24:37X. That's what you're gonna see when you log in, and that's what
- 24:41it's called. Now, no more birds, It's just X. Now.
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