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DONKEY: Demi Lovato Changed Pronouns Because Explaining They/Them To People Was ‘Absolutely Exhausting’ · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Let's gonna be a dunkey because right now you want
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  Speaker 1: some drinks.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for Donkey of the day. So if you
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  Speaker 2: ever feel I need to be a donker man with
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  Speaker 2: the heath, please doesn't I had become Donkey of the day.
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  Speaker 3: The breakfast club bit, Yes, donkey today for Wednesday, June fourteenth.
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  Speaker 3: We make sure at June fourteenth, yesterday is goes to
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  Speaker 3: Demi Lovado.
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  Speaker 2: Let the record show.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know Demi Lovado, but I respect her mental
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  Speaker 3: health advocacy. I respect her being open about her bipolar disorder,
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  Speaker 3: her drug addiction, and using her own personal experiences to
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  Speaker 3: help others seek healing. So Demi Lovado, thank you for
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  Speaker 3: your service. But Donkey of the Day does not discriminating.
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  Speaker 3: Demi said something recently in an interview with GQ Spain that.
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  Speaker 2: Grinded my gears. Oh boy, I simply don't appreciate.
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  Speaker 3: See, for the last few years, we've all been playing
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  Speaker 3: this hot potato pronoun game. Okay, why do I call
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  Speaker 3: it a hot potato pronoun game because it feels like
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  Speaker 3: a game of hot potato.
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  Speaker 2: You remember hot potato? Right, Yes, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: You know we're showing our age Ptato is a game
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  Speaker 3: that involves players gathering in a circle and tossing a
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  Speaker 3: small object, maybe a ball or a bean bag, hell,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes even a real potato, to each other while music plays.
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  Speaker 3: The player who is holding the object when the music
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  Speaker 3: stops is eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: Keyword eliminated.
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  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what it feels like when you are
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  Speaker 3: trying to live in this new world where folks want
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  Speaker 3: to be called by their proper pronoun just literally like
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  Speaker 3: a game of hot potato, because in a game of
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  Speaker 3: hot potato, you have to.
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  Speaker 2: Move fast get the object out of your hand quickly.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, But in this new world, I could be looking
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  Speaker 3: at a person that is a man and refer to
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  Speaker 3: them as he. Then someone will get mad at me
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  Speaker 3: and tell me I'm miss gendering the person because their
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  Speaker 3: pronoun is her.
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  Speaker 2: And by the time I.
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  Speaker 3: Get to say her, I get told it's she, Then
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  Speaker 3: I get told it's they.
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  Speaker 2: Not a music stops, and I'm labeled.
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  Speaker 3: A miss genderer, and now I'm eliminated. They have been
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  Speaker 3: doing this to us for a few years now. And
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  Speaker 3: remember a couple of years ago, Jimmy Lovado decided to
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  Speaker 3: adjust her pronouns let's listen.
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  Speaker 4: I want to take this moment to share something very
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  Speaker 4: personal with you. Over the past year and a half,
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  Speaker 4: I've been doing some healing and self reflective work, and
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  Speaker 4: through this work, I've had the revelation that I identify
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  Speaker 4: as non binary. I'll officially be changing my pronouns today them.
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  Speaker 4: I feel that this best represents the fluidity I feel
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  Speaker 4: in my gender expression and allows me to feel most
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  Speaker 4: authentic and true to the person I both know I
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  Speaker 4: am and still am discovering. I want to make it
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  Speaker 4: clear that I'm still learning and coming into myself, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't claim to be an expert or a spokesperson.
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  Speaker 4: I will also be accepting if people slip and say
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  Speaker 4: her she, because I know that being in my position,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to take a while for people to get
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  Speaker 4: used to. I just want you're true, them to be
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  Speaker 4: making the effort.
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  Speaker 3: I respect it, Okay, even though they is so confusing
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  Speaker 3: when you're discussing one person. Okay, I'm at the point
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  Speaker 3: when I see they, I have to ask how many
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  Speaker 3: people in your party?
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  Speaker 2: When I reply party on one already know what it is?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but Demmi Levado has adjusted her pronouns all right,
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  Speaker 3: she has actually re added. She her back to her pronouns,
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  Speaker 3: and her reasoning might confuse you more than the pronouns,
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  Speaker 3: Ducie told GQ Spain, and I'm gonna read it that.
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  Speaker 2: Let me read the whole quote.
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  Speaker 3: I constantly had to educate people and explain why identified
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  Speaker 3: why I identified with those pronouns.
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  Speaker 2: It was absolutely exhausting. I just got tired.
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  Speaker 3: But for that very reason, I know that it is
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  Speaker 3: important to continue spreading the words. So Demi added, she
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  Speaker 3: heard back because she finds it absolutely exhausting. She says
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  Speaker 3: she just got tired of explaining the others why they
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  Speaker 3: changed their pronouns in the first place. Demi, I bet
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  Speaker 3: it is exhausting, But I promise you you're not as
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  Speaker 3: tired as us. Okay, when I say us, I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: about people of all races, ages, religions, ginga's sexualities. I've
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  Speaker 3: had conversations with numerous people about this for years, and
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  Speaker 3: we've been tired. We've been exhausted, and this is why
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  Speaker 3: we always after the confusion, got upset because we knew.
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  Speaker 2: You know, y'all didn't know what y'all was talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, confusion begets confusion exhausting begets exhaustion. I can only
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  Speaker 3: speak for myself on this, but I'm never trying to
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  Speaker 3: offend anyone by misgendering them. Okay, I simply did not know,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm sure there's plenty of people who simply do
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  Speaker 3: not know. But when we would ask, y'all would get upset,
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  Speaker 3: and then we would just assume.
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  Speaker 2: Then when we would just assume, y'all would get upset.
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  Speaker 3: And then when we called y'all by the wrong pronouns,
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  Speaker 3: not purposely, just because my eyes are saying, you know,
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  Speaker 3: this is a he, but you identify as as she,
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  Speaker 3: then y'all get upset. And then we ask to be taught,
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  Speaker 3: and y'all get upset. If I look at Michael Jackson
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  Speaker 3: and say he he, y'all get upset. Okay, I promise you, demmy,
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  Speaker 3: nothing is more exhausting than that, all right. If I
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  Speaker 3: was to say what you told GQ Spain in regards
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  Speaker 3: to not even wanting to learn about pronouns, it would
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  Speaker 3: be folks fake outrage trying to cancel me. Imagine me
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  Speaker 3: saying right now, it is absolutely exhausting to keep up
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  Speaker 3: with people's pronouns. I'm tired of keeping up of people's pronouns.
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  Speaker 3: That sentence alan to a publication would cause backlash from
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  Speaker 3: digital d heads on social media. But guess what, Demi,
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  Speaker 3: she said the quiet part out loud. It is absolutely
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  Speaker 3: exhausting on all counts. I'm sure it's absolutely exhausting for
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  Speaker 3: her to have to explain, and it's absolutely exhausting for
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  Speaker 3: us to learn and how we're supposed to learn.
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  Speaker 2: If the soul.
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  Speaker 3: Called teachers are tired, I can't care about this more
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  Speaker 3: than you do.
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  Speaker 2: Are they do? Are them?
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  Speaker 3: Do?
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  Speaker 2: Now? I have to do? Do? Please? Give them me
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  Speaker 2: levado the biggest ea.
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  Speaker 3: Huh No, I really do have to go Dodo.
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  Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm very regular. Are you confused? I am?
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  Speaker 2: Are you tired? No? I thought as a kid they
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  Speaker 2: refer to two or more.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I say whenever I see the word they,
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  Speaker 3: I ask how many people in your party? If you
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  Speaker 3: tell me party A one? I already know what time
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  Speaker 3: it is? What time is it? That means that it's
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  Speaker 3: somebody who wants to be referred to his day.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for us to go all right.
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  Speaker 3: The credits are rolling on bt okay, that's what time
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 5: Got tomorrow everybody else man. When we come back, CALLI
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  Speaker 5: will be joining us. She's an artist. She's from California.
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  Speaker 5: She moved to Georgia and we're gonna talk to her next.
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  Speaker 5: So do we call them they?
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  Speaker 3: Herd she?
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  Speaker 2: You call her them they? She and her? Now what
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  Speaker 2: do we call you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: My pronoun is just my wife's pronoun Is that you're that? Well, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm this My wife is that you can get with this,
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  Speaker 2: So you can get with that. That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know if I should have gave with
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  Speaker 3: he haw or she ha, now that I think about.
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  Speaker 2: It, Yeah, have a she hall.
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  Speaker 1: This is stupid, all right. When we come back, CALLI
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